 And I'm saying if Pennsylvania is winnable for the president, he's handling it well. But that being said, it's a message to my fellow Democrats. You shouldn't be sitting on your mail-in ballots at all. There's no reason to. You don't use the mail. At this point, it's too close to the deadline. You need to deliver it to a secure drop box and make sure you bank your vote. And that's my message. It's like, let's not take that chance. Like just bank your vote. Very simple. But are you saying that as of this morning in your gut, you think Donald Trump is going to win Pennsylvania? No, not at all. Not at all. I'm just saying that there's a lot that I don't think can be captured fully in polling. And that is the level of engagement that the president's campaign has taken on in Pennsylvania. I think in the last week, I count either it's his direct events or his surrogates with his family and others, probably over 15 events. And you saw that crowd in Butler. The Secret Service estimated it at 50,000 plus. So there's an inherent level of popularity there. And you have to take that seriously. 50,000 people? I didn't realize that. That photograph, because some people have wondered, was it shot in a certain way that made it seem like it was bigger? You're saying that that's the estimate. 50,000 people. I read the Secret Service estimated the crowd at 57,000. And my point is simply that don't take my word for how competitive Pennsylvania is. The run-up to having me onto your segment here just said how competitive it is.