 Welcome DEF CON 18 to your stealing it wrong 30 years of inter-pirate battles. My name is Jason Scott and I am a historian. I'm going to dedicate this talk tonight to Ibrahim Kam Shirani, a friend of mine who attended DEF CON and two months later had a really unpleasant car accident that did result in his death. This was again in 2004. What I'm saying now is tonight spend a little more time with friends you don't normally see please. Enjoy your time at DEF CON with them keep your memories. So ideal in history and of course in history you can see all sorts of parallels and unusual things for instance a 1929 lol cat advertisement here. This is from advertisement and it actually suggests as you can see it will brighten up the whole room. Every mother will want one of these five by eight photos for the nursery. Ha ha ha it must be so. These in fact are Chicago land gang business cards a collection of cards handed out by gangs around here the crosses boss only a bitch wears makeup. I don't know what situation they would hand this to I would assume to the person that was arresting them but these sort of unusual ephemera kind of fascinate me as a person who likes to see things so I'm always collecting items and unusual things and I've been doing it for a very very long time. History is important like this beautiful idyllic scene between two models. This is a rather old photo it is in fact a photo of Afghanistan. From the 1950s this is that exact same location today without those photographs without people making an effort without collecting items we would have no idea about this past history. Again 100 years ago this was an article in the New York Times which it was announced that an attorney general had decided that it was there was no actual law against women wearing pants. A widow had written asking for permission to wear pants in her own garden and the attorney general said well there doesn't seem to be any law against that and as the last part of the article says there's no law prohibiting a woman from wearing men's trousers especially if she were the head of the house. These kind of unusual phrases and stuff it's all very kind of fascinating to me because you look at it now with new eyes right everything you see is in three locations. The time it was written the time it's being written for and the time at which you're reading it yourself so these are three different perspectives that these things exist in and it's always good idea to see what they're up to. This itself is from Ho Ho Con in the 1990s this is a Denver trashing map. This is a collection of places that may or may not have good things to get out of the trash bins. For freaks for instance Northern Telecom well-concealed location AT&T nice trash. US West you know not quite clear maybe some of these things are different areas I wouldn't do this now by the way. Just saying don't do it now. Last year I was assistant administration and I hated it and eventually I was laid off and so at that point I said boy do I want to do that again and I thought well not really so I went to Kickstarter and I proposed an idea which was I love doing computer history I run a site called textfiles.com I've done a documentary called BBS the Documentary I've done a whole variety of these other things which I'll show you and would you guys like to fund me to do nothing but this for a while and $25,000 later people did. So I want to thank the 347 backers on Kickstarter without you I wouldn't be able to spend the time on crazy shit like this. Some of you might be in the room you need a hug but I just wanted people to know that you know I am actually functioning as a full-time historian right now and it's a wonderful life and I'm enjoying it. How much am I enjoying it? This is a photo of my brother but behind him is a storage container which I call the textfiles.com information cube. This is a storage container full of computer history that's when I started to load it in it actually looks like this right now because I've been busy editing my movie which is for sale this is a collection of thousands and thousands of computer magazines floppy diskettes tape I have the original data tapes of the free software foundation in there there's a whole variety of artifacts things and I've been going through them and I posted them online. It's from these archives that I collect things that I'm trying to show people. I believe that the biggest problem besides being at history when it happens is recognizing that it's not really your job to decide what the future finds fascinating and so it's only because of people who are now dead that we understand a lot of different things in this world so I'm trying to collect things and at least be a depot to be an alternative to the trash can to then pass it on to the next group of people so I have entire collections of bite entire collections of wired entire collections of 2600 a lot of 2600 pre-production items and so on just things that I think might have value in the future I'll be the guy who safeguards them now I don't own them I merely curate them for the next generation so this talk is about software and piracy and you have to kind of define those terms they're very easy terms to throw around so I just wanted to spend a little time on them because right now when people do a lot of work they kind of go for the surface of things take it a little bit easy and I like to try to at least dig a little bit deeper on that so software ok so software is a little kind of a strange concept right especially when you consider that you know people think of software now as a career they think of it as an environment a product they think of it as an actual thing that can be bought sold given around you can be arrested for stealing it you can be arrested for copying it you know it's this ephemeral concept I use a bunch of books when I'm doing research this particular book is called is it has an awful title it's called from airline reservations to Sonic the Hedgehog ignore that bullshit I have a number of historical books that are just awful because publishers are idiots when they come to title sometimes and they say your book is fascinating it's deep and it's interesting but we need to put Mario on the cover somehow so they'll do this and there's one called like play and it's actually a beautiful work on the video game industry but it looks like something that's gonna have 16 exclamation points after every sentence and just be awful this book tries to track back the history of software going back to the 50s and then how different software industries rose up and what that meant where everything went obviously most of you deal with software every moment of your lives now something inside of your pants run software something inside of your car run software maybe something inside of your chest run software so that's it's a concept that has some amount of importance so I'm just gonna go back to the 50s you can trace concepts of software actually back to the 1800s with looms and punch cards there's a beautiful talk out there and I got to see this at the marble house in Rhode Island there's a silk covering on walls this beautiful silk covering and it had faded terribly over the 100 years that it existed it was a Vanderbilt bill house and they wanted to fix it and they were trying to come up with different solutions and they contacted the original firm in France that happened to have the original punch cards that originally ran the looms so they ran another run of it and put up brand new exact duplicate silks save your shit so I'm sure whoever put that back there was like no no no they will reorder so anyway so here we are this this is a beautiful podcast by the IEEE Computer Society called Computing Lives I recommend it heavily it is basically the human stories behind computers the first one is about the first computer dating program that was created and how awful it went and a number of other things but this discusses the concept that the origin of software bundling I just want to know so I know my audience software bundling what meaning does anyone understand that term before the 70s as opposed to now where it's like I bought a software and the right to get sued to use it alright so here's the deal right there's obviously parallel existences out there but primarily people who are looking back at software will look at the practices of the International Business Machines Corporation IBM and IBM when it sold software certainly through the 1950s and 1960s sold it as a bundle that is to say you bought a computer and you also bought their assistance in making it useful because it was always a big deal to try to justify these insane fucking things who would buy a million-dollar piece of hardware when they're just doing accounting it's a tough sell IBM came up with a number of innovative cell routines which is part of why their success now bear in mind like the 1920s there was already a person who they had a party for to celebrate his 50 years with the company IBM is a very old very smart company who is not really beholden to their people it's this thing that kind of exists which is why it's still around through a lot of pain and a lot of greatness they they're very innovative so one of the things they would do I didn't understand this until recently was that they would sell you a computer that was really expensive for a third of its price but they were allowed to use it at night and they would rent it out to other customers who couldn't quite afford buying it for a third see they were always trying to kind of bootstart this whole thing so computing when it came to software it was sold as a service you bought the machine and when you're like we're a company and we make you know buggy whips we don't know how long this is going to last and we're going to need this kind of accounting they would send people over to take their software and write it for this machine for you and it was part of the service and you paid money for it what happened was was like by the nineteen late 1960s early 70s a lot of companies are trying to get into that space and they're claiming IBM is a monopoly that IBM is going after places that are selling software and claiming it's violating their contracts and it's terrible and that's how IBM ended up in their antitrust court case I swear this gets more interesting I do so basically IBM unbundled software they turn software into a separate concept and started selling it that way now other companies had done that but when IBM did it suddenly software no longer becomes a service it becomes its own special entity not beholden to any particular company so if you think of a car company also selling the gas and suddenly now there's gas companies right same idea that's that's kind of it's a it's a different way of thinking of software with the advent of the home computer revolution now get that moment with the advent of the home computer revolution suddenly software is something that's kind of coming along with there's no company to kind of support you so you're kind of on your own putting together software but now software is something that if a company comes along and sells a product for it suddenly all of the hobbyist approach to it of like we'll just do what we need to do to get the software running is running straight up against the idea of making a business out of it and that's where we hear of the famous Bill Gates 1975 letter to hobbyist which says basically please allow me to make an awful ton of money signed bill I guess they fell for it huh so basically this software company the software idea starts rising up along with that comes home computers suddenly you're not dealing with a company you can push around that has rules of licenses and lawyers these are just regular human beings who are buying computers as you would buy a vacuum cleaner you would go to Sears and buy a game of sorry and a hula hoop and a Commodore 64 right it's just another thing and suddenly you're running up against this idea of software as being something you don't want to duplicate and do yourself but it's so fucking easy so right now in the contemporary space as we say there is an awful lot of verbiage talking about piracy and open culture and how do you you know what rights you give in creative commons a lot of buzz words and a lot of concepts behind it now I find it easier to grab a distance instead of just punching Cory Doctorow in the nutsack or something I just would prefer to go back in time to a different more innocent time so here's an ad this is a public service announcement I want to say it's about 1984 1985 it's easy to make a copy it's quick it's illegal it's wrong okay let's go a little farther here and again I want to point out this verbiage mostly because should have echoes of today it's hard to believe people who wouldn't think of shoplifting a software product on their lunch hour don't think twice about going back to the office and making several illegal copies of the same software making unauthorized copies of software is a violation of u.s. copyright law yet the problem has reached epidemic proportions because many people are unaware or simply choose to ignore the law the software industry is urging decision makers and software users to take steps to stop software piracy in their organizations in the meantime the industry has been forced to prosecute willful copyright violators there are legal moral and economic imperatives forbidding theft of copyrighted software all of this of course echoes common arguments made today about you're destroying everything every time you copy a PlayStation game a baby gets punched down here on the bottom it says there is a free pamphlet on the subject call or write for a copy a copy a copy a copy for everyone you know please ask for Priscilla just so I can explain because I'm I have to say I'm I'm free associating on this very sure that the reason they ask for Priscilla is to verify which people are reading which magazines and that the woman in question doesn't actually exist but I still love her but here's also what kind of interest me when I look back at this time is adapso what the fuck is adapso right turns out adapso is the association of processing service organizations it's been around since 1962 okay so this was an organization that was associated with an industry collective dealing with issues that were pervading an entire industry this is how things get done if you look at other similar organizations the business software alliance the software publishers alliance first of all the SPA has been renamed to the information industry so actually let me get this right BSA still exists fuckers SPA was created in 1984 and then IIA which is the information industry association which is a little bit before it they combined and now this organization still exists the SIA the software and information industry association oh that's awesome so these guys are where companies have things done that they don't want to be associated with you see they are the ones who whine they're the ones who threaten to sue and it yes of course they're being funded entirely but there's that little layer of protection and if something goes wrong they deal with it and there's a lot of pressure while doing research for this I found this rather interesting adapso reunion workshop held by the absolutely wonderful computer history museum which is out in California and has been making an effort to get oral histories with a lot of people and collect them so I just happened to take part of their transcription and it just mentions here that the adapso board had a heated discussion because of the software companies Microsoft and a handful of other software vendors said we want to bring a series of lawsuits against major corporations in America for illegally copying our software and we're looking for a trade association to work with us on it we insist on your funding support and the use of your name and there was a very heated discussion so basically they came to them and said please be our front because we're about to punch a lot of companies in the face and we don't want to be known for doing that that's kind of interesting but actually what's much more interesting is way down here is this discussion where the lead council for SPA found that they weren't moving fast enough and they moved to the BSA to become sorry about that they left the SPA okay and they took with them many of the legal arguments and writings that the SP that's what has put together to fight software piracy and then used them so they go did you steal the idea no no no it was entirely reverse engineered so so basically an anti-piracy group pirated an anti-piracy group out of their piracy language to fight piracy it helps a lot to talk to people years after things happened because we were asshole sorry about that it's very informative especially if like some people I've talked to they've had their lives ruined by lawsuits dealing with piracy alright so one of the side effects of that is you get some really awesome propaganda right nail your boss or colleagues suppliers dealers and others who legally buy happy software $5,000 reward similar over here be a big fat hero in glasses report you don't have to leap tall buildings a single bound fighting crime writing wrongs doing the right thing you too can be a superhero and you take a stand against software piracy these are all feelers right they've defined stealing piracy is something awful and you can be a part of it okay this is an environment of fear and intimidation that's brought on by propaganda this one's very recent this is in the Philippines a nice reboot of the whole process right these guys are looking like bad asses until you look down on the bottom left and you see he's the chairman of the optical media board and the guy on the right director national bureau of investigation and up there 139 businesses were raided 85 businesses were inspected 1,686 computers were seized so basically they're saying look out your entire business could be ruined if you have one illegal copyrighted software now this does get to some pretty ludicrous levels in 2000 the bsa put vans in various locations in england and said they were scanning buildings for illegal software and advised you to report immediately that you were stealing software so their van detectors would not find you however I was told by these wonderful people for my sabbatical so I spent a little more time on this than just going haha the register made fun of the bsa and I found that in 1998 Microsoft funded with $20 million an educational research project in which ross anderson who has said in the thing I hope they never use it funded a way to send alternate signals from what's on the screen via radio transmission that on the left it looks like this and on the right it's sending a completely different signal the idea being that each piece of software would have this implemented and be able to again in software it's doing this send out its serial number constantly enabling you from within 200 to 300 feet to know the serial numbers of all the machines around you so someone did try this shit it actually did sort of exist however they never went forward with it but what the fuck let's deploy a van fleet anyway so there you go right so never question everything without checking in first but I just put this in here because everyone knows about it right here's a case of just this awful music video that's going to make you pirate things but they made it for free so you copy it so alright so obviously when you live in an environment of such fear intimidation and rotten music videos eventually people just start using your own methodology against you they start using bizarre language harshness making fun of things all this kind of gallows humor to get around the fact that there's this awful amount of threats and everything around you right so you know in fact there's all of this stuff that's been written and created in various degrees right and it's not you know not everything I say has to fall with the general theme of the audience I don't see any moral or logical advantage over the other companies when this is done I think this is just as much propaganda as the other because it diminishes actual work being done by creators that they're trying to do good things and it makes it sound like every single movie sucks every single creator is awful so you have to keep an eye out it's funny but don't copy this floppy is funny this is funny this entire crazy thing here but on the other hand people are creating stuff and they want to protect it and they want to do stuff it's all a matter of how we go about it that's as far as I'm going to go into that debate because it tires me and if it tires me I can imagine what it does to you so hooray all right so throughout the work that I do I collect a whole bunch of things one of things I've always had a kind of a soft spot for where Apple to software pirates there's something about them just I really kind of enjoyed that I didn't own an Apple to when I was a kid somehow I was fascinated to just the creativity and the work so a few years ago I went ahead through a few thousand pirated Apple to products that I've since deleted and I built this a collection of crack screens and I'm just going to quickly explain what crack screens are just for a moment just for whoever okay who doesn't know what crack screens are all right exactly so crack screens are when software first comes out it was fucking huge it could take you an hour or more to download your 143k floppy across modem lines it was a unneeded effort to do this so often floppies that were created by commercial software creators would actually not have a lot of data you might have a 143k floppy but actually would only have 20k of useful data on it and so what happened is that people could just duplicate the whole disk to an entire industry which I'll go into for a little bit but you would end up with this large hard to transfer thing well here you could also have someone who had some skills go through it take the software off the disk or through memory and then create a much smaller bundle that could be transferred much quicker i.e crack it this was also the case if they built in protections I spent many years talking to software pirates from the apple 2 era all sorts of fellows very smart for instance they would design new boot ROMs inside apple 2s that looked like a normal boot ROM because it was being checked by the software and then as soon as it detected that the search light had gone away from it it would turn into a pirated thing and grab down the software so there was a whole bunch of work done on this and there were hacker and cracker magazines dedicated to software cracking for instance the beautiful hard core computerist later renamed simply computerist which I have an entire archive of with their permission and it has both products and instructions on cracking software so here we go when you cracked it why just stop at cracking it why not brag about how fucking awesome you are I figured this was an urge that might have some sort of symbiosis with the people in this room so people would create these crack screens what you're seeing here are all screens that were created by crackers or cracking groups to say what you're about to play is something I stole you're welcome now initially you would have pretty basic ways of doing this for instance this is a crack screen where basically when you loaded up the software you would blow it into screen memory for a moment so it would cause the screen to flip out and these guys would put their own name buried in the text so it would show up at the top of the screen and you'll notice the use of the modified copyright so it's K for cracked so cracked high technology and creative cracker the Apple mafia strikes don't try to decode the rest don't waste the time stop guys are nuts I put this in just because I want you to get some perspective on these software pirates that were just absolutely able to go everywhere if you look on the bottom it says dedicated to the Wardon who's gone at summer camp for eight weeks gonna pour some Kool-Aid on the ground for my friend poor guy but otherwise here are bulletin boards to call notice they've got the passwords so nobody would break into their software piracy collections active nascomp ozzy so but you can see it was cracked on June 22nd 1984 by the ZAP man and distributed by the by the dock in the ace and that means that they would physically call a ton of computer bulletin boards around the country and leave copies of this with their with with with their pride and regards so and the problem of course is that sometimes you run out of interesting things to crack and you're always trying to kind of get a name for yourself so here we see someone has blown out this awesome where the department of transportation national highway traffic safety administration self-evaluation for teens bring that one on huh he will be shown 40 statements representing attitudes concerning drinking and driving I'm for it type the response number will be displayed in a graph so this was the thing could you imagine showing up the gates of some ascii express or bulletin board line I got a hot new where for you let me go into this for a moment by the way what happened is is that a piece of software would be released on a certain day you know we know that was coming out on June 5th but if you were a cracker group and you somehow got your hands on it a few days before you would say I got this thing before anybody else but that usually didn't happen nobody had an in at that time so what they would do instead is say this has been out for four days this is a four day where and then it would be I have a three day where and then if you were able to release your pirated software in the early 80s before anybody else and before it was in the store it was called a zero day where somehow this is turned into an entire fucking industry and it drives me nuts to see zero day being used this way but what are you gonna do now it's like on like fucking stickers on packages but assholes part of part of being a historian is that you quickly learn to become a hater of all things and you realize we're on a small boat in a world of shit and there's a leak but I soldier on what would happen is originally they're just kind of having fun with it right and they're cracking and they're letting you know about their incredible software no duty gets better and everyone say goodbye to the creator of zero day products tell your dad I said hi anyway so here crack man cracked things right and it tells people that it was supplied by Reese's pieces which is a terrible name for a pirate but what are you gonna do but a cup was taken and it was protected by a commercial product called lock it up 50 and he goes what a joke right so not only is he sufficient to crack it but he's also got to say and they were stupid when they did it fuckers right that is a very noticeable shift that's from dude we did it to that wasn't even a challenge motherfucker bring it on this led to something called spiral tracking which I'm not going to go into right now anyone know spiral tracking your eyes still work alright fine spiral tracking was where they changed how the drive works so that in fact it would write in a spiral instead of a series of tracks it would actually go in a spiral alright so if you used any other software except for the software itself to figure out what it was it looked jammed and it was a big happy wonderful day in pirate land when someone figured this out and everyone else got it again these guys are now turning towards the very places that are assaulting them to say or or saying that it's terrible to do to go fuck you so here they're going yeah we're totally guilty of software piracy it's a presentation alright and then we get this right re-cracked by the disc jockey learn to crack right freeze also if you take out the author's name again to put in yours I'll break all your arms and legs with no kidding sincerely the disc jockey now they're turning on each other right now you're seeing this thing with not only are they like fuck you but they're going to each other going fuck you this is not a long-term success plan but here they are doing it right similarly once again here's a case where it's like cracked by hot rod of black bag black bag was awesome by the way but on the left and right there's laws and torch hanging by their hands fuck those guys enjoy captain goodnight fuck laws in the torch alright interesting message they didn't stop with it either here's the torch getting space station yellow beard anyway so now also the credits are kind of fun aren't they you got someone who cracked it you got thanks handed out and the title page is now being done by a separate guy right just so we go off for a moment understand that after a while you start having people who are doing nothing but making title screens you have people who are doing nothing but making cool programs that run before the main program run and then we have what we now call the demo scene that's where it comes from just so you know cause what happened is eventually the guys making the title screens were like fuck you pirates you don't even have a good distribution I'm just making cool title screens for no good reason yeah fuck you that long-term strategy actually worked so they ended up not going to jail and having demo scene so I just wanted to pass that out cause the demo scene ooh so ragging here's a bunch of home phone members of other pirates including Hitman's mom the bitch mom rag on all these losers some of you are like third trimester embryos do you still use the term rag at all is rag still a verb okay good just checking gotta keep up with the kids you know yeah you rag on these guys so yeah what you're seeing here is ragging the idea of ripping on why am I using a definition where I use an even more obscure term why the fuck did I just do that insulting fellow members of your community you're ragging on them fucking losers why not put their phone members on a cracked piece of software that you cracked and are distributing throughout bolton boards notice also it's giving their real first names too right ask for Casey ask for Ike ask for Ben ask for Ken ask for Hitman's mom also I'm fairly sure and again this is an analysis from a ways away when it says fake sand man be aware that at the time there was a lot of credence put into your handle so if two people chose a name you know a really unique name like sand man you attract that motherfucker down and tell him to stop it I know this is true because I did it a long time ago I was the slip disc and I found someone was using the name slip disc and I called him up and why did he have that name because he had a slip disc so I let him off pretty easy sorry dude this is also located in a crack screen this is a crack screen this is like you're about to play a game and you're suddenly hit with a digital dictionary loser one of that is a failure and achieves nothing one who continually releases unprotected lame educational wares see also the bunny men you know we did use to spell wares with an s right incompetent lacking qualities needed for a task often cracking see also the bunny men conceded having an excessively high opinion of oneself ragging on almost everywhere one puts out feeling superior to all see also the bunny men ignorant lacking in knowledge and intelligence unable to crack wares by oneself one who must use other loaders due to incompetence above see also the bunny men bunny men incompetent highly conceded losers often displaying outright ignorance I'm going to let you finish that but Dan Kaminsky had one of the best talks of all time do I get to come back later get my applause anyway fuck the bunny men fuck the bunny man alright so basically this this is the middle page of a three page letter that I found in front of one crack in which he tries to indicate okay one thing I don't like lately is all the rags being put out on the new formed group dark logic first off I think it's childish to rag on anybody I hate the idea of rag pages but I don't think it's fair for a new group to get ragged on when they're just trying to compete in the world of piracy I don't know all the group members however I do know three of them and two of them I consider good friends these people are back bay hacker and the martyr both these guys are very cool people they'll do anything for anybody Mike has sent me numerous two gswares and I have traded with Keith a few times as well they're both caring people I don't think they deserve the shit they're getting from anybody the other guy knowing dark logic is Brian fist I'm sure most of you know who he is he's been becoming fairly well known lately I don't know him all that well but there's more anyway so calls for reasonableness have not worked in 400 years I don't know why this guy's doing it eventually people feel need to leave so here we have the retirement notice of silicon warrior first of all I'd like to say what up dudes but now I am depressed I'm quitting piracy it has never been a real experience for me I will it has been a real experience for me I will never forget I'd like to say thanks to all my old and new friends I met in piracy it's been a blast later dudes it's been awesome no e thanks to one I the atom the cog all those team members who gave me my break to my cracker my crackers hot rod the micron the cloak and any other I have missed thanks to all the cracks myth the I see us like to think all the old pirates this is 1984 I think all the old pirates of 1200 club MPG and so on thanks to everyone else who was my friend you know quote you're my idol and fuck you Larry SW when this you silicon warrior similarly crack man bring a very tearful moment of super sex on cracks it with thanks to the dealer in the scantron says this is the last major where the eye Mr. Crackman will crack for the apple to I am disappointed in the quality of software slash crackers slash traders in the pirate world now and I'm only going to crack Mac stuff and even more Kool-Aid what I want to show here is there's a lot of parallels in this bizarre bubble world to what we experienced now in this weird way people look and I think that one of the things I try to get across to people right is that a lot of times people get really wrapped up in the problems of the moment right some controversy some thing and they don't realize that these are those echoes of problems that we've all been grappling with for years ever since man first put together silicon to a disc and started playing asteroids so these are these are these are both new and old problems and should be considered as such and not to get too hung up on them but it's fascinating to look back on the perspectives that are getting such huge huge fights all right you're all here that guy who left he's sorry oh he's back all right what the fuck did you leave for then oh oh you got you had to drink a little before you could take the rest of my speech because this speech doesn't get much better if there's two of me I'm just saying all right anyway so you're all like awesome Jason but please focus in on that good part yeah all right Mere Jim and Karen van Bleyble on Playboy September 1989 available at Rusty and Edie's 14 lines 762 megs Columbus Ohio Rusty and Edie it's a different kind of BBS where the only is BBS okay so Rusty and Edie's was one of the largest computer bulletin boards in the 1990s we're moving forward to the 1990s now and what you had was computer bulletin boards of course were originally single line affairs run by hobbyists but over time an industry started to pile up and then there became what I call super BBSes BBSes in which you'd have more than say 20 lines 30 lines 40 lines 60 lines bearing in mind that multi-user systems are not in vogue yet so they have a they have a whole bunch of ads and they let you know about what they've got and one of the things they mention is they have three gigs of adult graphics now this is 1994 all right they are fucking rocking it right we're a couple burnouts in the 60s we didn't like rules then and we don't now we live by three nos no censorship no rules no hassle yeah some of you were like that's right put up your feet and enjoy yourself it says and you're like well what the fuck did that look like oh I have to mention this too by the way in this perspective of looking back on things numbers are pretty crazy stupid so I just put this in here just to mention 10 megabytes $695 that's your only question it's only $695 anyway I've kept doing suspense enough what does the rest of the edbBS look like it looks like this I don't want to leave the screen yet but okay if you look over to the right everyone see the screen on the far right put your eyes halfway between that screen and the bank of modems there was our v32 modems inside those little custom built things next to the tongue power supplies that's a cat that's a sleeping cat just wanted to mention that each one of those modems is going to one phone line one of those I would assume 486's perhaps 386's pumping out an awful lot of heat and that is in their house okay and it was this was long before they would bust you for being a meth lab right but their heat signature man they were a fucking supernova right alright and I just wanted to say that by the way this wasn't a unique thing I didn't just find you the 7 wonders of the world this is actually the software creations bbs at the same time where they've custom built their house to accommodate 10 billion machines that are in there this is how a lot of these places existed there was a channel 1 bbs in Boston which had a couple rooms dedicated to it and they had to dedicate more and eventually they had to move out of the house and give it over to their bbs and they bought a building behind their house and that became their house but these are not just minor people saying oh god the 60's right these are like major major businesses well here we come his playboy enterprises versus Russ Hardenburg Russ Rusty and Edie 1997 in which they said you have 412 graphic images that are basically playboy scans and this was a real lawsuit 1997 he lost lost fucking big and he their arguments are interesting they had arguments like because it's scanned it's a new image we had no control over what was coming on our board we have no rules we have no hassle from the 60's let us off but what they said was you curate your work now there was a they also cited a previous one George Freina tech warehouse bbs systems and consulting so playboy was doing this this is from 1993 so they were basically going on and finding people were scanning playboy images and then selling them I had a wonderful story on the bbs documentary there was another major bbs exec pc and when these lawsuits came down the guy flipped out because the vast majority of their business was transferring adult images and what are we going to do how do we know these are playboy images or not so they assigned a guy who I interviewed who for 3 weeks looked at pornography and if the models looked quote too good he would delete it and he said I have never seen that many vaginas in my life with this wide eyed fear and he's like it was really only stimulating for the first couple of days but as an interesting parallel to what we're talking about now Russ Hardenburg versus playboy where he lost because they said because you curate stuff you must be aware of its legality before you are liable is what was cited to take down Napster Hardenburg versus playboy is one of the citations to win over Napster because they were doing some level of curation of their wares and so that peer to peer network was taken down do that so there's always something there to bite you on the ass and pay attention to again I love watching history this way so it's kind of fun and you say eventually oh well of course people get it and then you go oh I guess they really don't get it they're using their super mini floppies 3.3 megs on one five and a quarter diskette oh well high capacity field proven anyway oh and reliably transportable that's an awesome awesome sales anyway so a few years ago about a year or two ago I got this mail from a guy and again I must say this by the way this is one of the greatest pieces of my life my current life and the life I've lived right is that people go where do I send this maybe you should send it to Jason Scott it's nice to have that reputation it really makes me feel good it literally makes me feel good I have found citations by using a blog search where someone goes I want to get rid of a bunch of shareware CDs what do I do and someone writes give them to Jason Scott and because my thing triggers I show up a minute later and go I'm here what you got I'll pay tell you shipping hey as a result there was something called cd.textfiles.com which you guys may not be aware of it's 400 gigabytes of shareware that I've collected over the past few years I'm going to be putting up another 200 gigs of shareware in the next couple of months because I've got it waiting to go up and so I love collecting that stuff and there was so much treasure in shareware I mean there's so much treasure in there so many things when Duke Nukem was cancelled I ended up grabbing Duke Nukem too and putting it up for everyone you know and you could see how Duke Nukem grew through the years and what it all meant so it's great when I get these mails I love these fucking mails they're awesome so I got this mail from a guy let's go with a guy and it said hey Jason I saw something go by on my torrent site that you might want it's a collection of pirate notices and I said fuck yeah sure Duke whatever and he goes I'm going to give you a one time token to our pirate server so you can grab it and I had files at the time I hit this server and I'm getting 12 meg download speeds alright which is why I didn't initially notice that it was 1.6 gigs of pirate notices what the fuck are pirate things I should have fuck yeah shut it down and I'll eat it make it stop moving I'll suck it down so I get this huge collection of releases massive amounts I mean there's like thousands in this collection of this guy right and it's got great titles into it like fucker who almost screwed me banned this stupid user seeing release standards call out to all German ex-vid groups to reorganize alright what this guy gave me was the interoffice memo of the pirate scene the bitch slappinist collection of hatred, anger and misanthropy that I've ever seen and I thought well Jesus Christ I got my talk for next year hooray free admission so this is what we got here and I'm just going to go through a few of these I'm just going to go through this collection just because I think it's absolutely fascinating so this is all circa 2004 okay about 2004 and the rag pages have gotten more colorful they've certainly got more explicit and they have a lot more drugs involved drugs, guns, money and teddy bears why you say Jason I don't know I got no idea what this fucking shit is I don't even understand the context of this I think CMS is one of the groups as a way of saying haha we have a legal shit with your name on it or something I don't know what the thinking is but I don't know teddy bear with gun it just brings up memories anyway so here's this interesting situation it doesn't behoove me to go too far into the lingo and whatever of pirate groups to too much extent it's a lot of it out there and I'll give a link soon but this is an example of a proof okay a proof is where you show that the thing you pirated or are distributing to other pirate groups or within the scene is real so what this is is this is an example of this guy says I'm well I'll give you his letter in a moment because it's so brilliantly written what he is trying to tell you is all the people who said we stole our pirated where of this electronica mp3 here is a promo record that we received an intercepted allowing us to have a copy before anybody else which we have now ripped and are sharing okay so he's got a picture of the label and on the back he's showing you what the other label looked like and here's the full entry on the bottom with the name blocked out so nobody gets in trouble of this release along with this beautiful letter some of which I'll read just a little bit I gotta get into the voice I have to become this man okay where should I begin I guess it should be with you the mighty full of sperm ripper of MSS of course hey there little cock sucker I'm sure you have cold sweat in your forehead as you read this lovely proof release of ours now you're probably asking yourself why why why did I try to be such a crappy smart ass and mess with the best let me guess cause you own a really tiny dick and for you sheepers who follow newbie ripper who thought he could save the day she want you now on to the rest of the scene ops and our lovely fans all over the world we would like to thank you for your support and at the same time shit on you sheepers mns particularly you tiny little ms ripper go back to your cave and die and all of the mighty nukers out there you better not be thinking you can get us down because of some funny nukes and so on and so on what's that I'm out of time for what what's coming before what hacker jeopardy I am completely out of time you gave me no warning ceiling of the wordpress.com lots and lots of nuking each other giving away their own information lots of CSI like attacks on each other revealing each other's IP addresses wave analysis to show that they stole each other's releases we will provide proof that the other group is faking their releases by showing you that their various gifs have been photographically modified in photoshop and of course the glorious lamar hall of shame is proud to present these guys where because they had an insider on a software company they were able to see another group card use a credit card to buy a copy of the software they traced it back and they mark him out here's the first time that they discover about those dots that are in screens that we see right now the cigarette burns that tell you exactly which movie theater is showing which movie so they can trace it back down and figure out who is telesinking so what the good goddamn do we learn here be more clear in telling me how much time I have but also I just again wanted to show you guys that there is a case of just a scene any scene one that you're part of one that you're not part of can be a nest of ludicrousness and a lot of hatred when in fact you are all united in ripping shit off and to maybe show a little bit more love for your common thieves and the way that you feel about each other that's all I ask I'm Jason Scott I guess that's it