 We probably have 30 seconds left. Do the introduction. Okay, the lecture that is coming up is in German, so I switched to German again. It's about politics. Three speakers were announced. Unfortunately, there are only two speakers here. Alexander Müller and Montserrat Graupenschläger. At the end of the talk, there will be a Q&A. About 10 minutes. But that will be announced again. Please. Welcome. I'm Alexander Müller. Montserrat Graupenschläger is my assistant. We have been working on this for a long time. In theory. You wrote it for practice. In theory. With communication, media and possibilities of unconventional political intervention. That's why we have a lecture here about the title of politics. We define our terms. What is politics? Oh! Politics. The meeting of collective, binding decisions. What is the first thing that comes to mind when you think of political changes? In the classical sense, it comes to mind to choose. It doesn't take long. It's a big advantage. But the influence is still missing. And... Because they do what they want up there, you can go to the politics yourself. Either alone or maybe in a group. And then you end up in the center of power. And if you are interested in power, instead of just one specific topic, you have a heart. You can, for example, collect documents. That's also online. It always means that you have to mobilize a lot of people and keep it unclear if something is going to happen. And to collect these people, that's usually tedious little work. And sometimes you don't have the whole success behind you. But if you somehow think to have enough people together, then you can make a demo. The advantage is that you don't always have to take care of all topics, but you can specialize on the things that are in your heart. Many of you might know that. Yes, here we have a bigger demonstration, where some of you have already participated. The problem with these demonstrations is a bit... If you know who was at this demonstration, you would also like to get one from the mall. It can also go into your eyes. Yes, with such images, you can open your ears. And many people open their ears in the air. In some cases, even the wish comes true. Some give this wish afterwards. Some take it really seriously. But they are sometimes well-said. The problem with such measures is the images that are created. They look impressive, but as you can read in the newspaper the next day, you don't really like it. That's why the few successful demonstrations teach us that you need damn many people. You have to be well-organized and well-organized. And that doesn't always work that you get enough space here. You can summarize these classical things. How can you take the influence? You can do it, protest or defend yourself. These are the classical possibilities. Now we want to say hack. How can you hack in this system? We define hacking as finding and using a simple solution for a complex task. It is important that it is simple and with little effort. What methods can be used in politics? This is what this lecture should be about. Methods are often similar to those in classical, political or PR work. Hacking can also be done by everyone. Even if you don't want to hack politics, you should be aware of the methods. Mostly you recognize the political hacker as well as the real hacker, who works heavily and with much humor. The others work less. For a successful hack, you have to understand the target system. This is a bit more complex in our case. This is a simplified political model. Western democracies. There are different players and systems that are connected to each other. You can also make files with all these subsystems. We didn't make files everywhere, you can't see anything else. The public opinion is a kind of firewall that can reduce attacks in public discussion and in opinion training. But that doesn't always work. That's why we did the media and interest groups to the outside. We want to see that at each of these points or files I can start an attack or a political hack. My attack vectors are... I can use each of these subsystems and start them. If you look at it like this, the first question you ask yourself is why should I start at each of these points and why should I do this environment and say, everything is clear, there seems to be the point where the hack works. Why should I bother myself with this firewall of public opinion? The problem with hacks in this region is that they are illegal rebellion and revolution by definition because they stand after the political decision. I put myself against something that actually happened. The child fell into a well and that's why we generally stick to it for more sense. But if such hacks work, which is difficult and rare, then we often go beyond the boundaries of countries. For example, we have telecoms that have acted outside of the target system. When the revolution was in Egypt, Mubarak somehow switched off the internet, telecoms put this decision out of force by offering modern selection points outside of this country. That's how a different country hacks telecoms. But such a topic can be played more directly when telecoms did something like that first. Can you put companies and players here under pressure that, as we all know, have provided surveillance and sensor technology? Yes, you can just bring it here and then, for example, Vodafone, who immediately supported the network shutdown in Egypt, attacks here. So here they do the advertising and freedom of speech, except in Egypt. I can do that on other players of the political life, the popular federal German criminal director, who always asked for a reset button for the internet. And I can use a political decision from another country to lead political players here. You should always think you can play a hack on different levels. Sometimes it works in a small country, to hack something national. Oh, I'm still there. It's a very nice hack for device data storage. That was in 2008, I think, in Heidelberg. The activists took a letter from the police and distributed it thousands of times as a home service. And then the police were warned about data storage. And in the tenor, yes, we can't guarantee your data security. Just call if it's absolutely necessary. The method is there. You talk to the voice of power or power. That always works in Germany very well. When the police say something, then it's worth it to bring public opinion to the public. That's a very classic hack. Take a letter, it was already played in all possible facets. For example, there was a visit to the Reagan in 1987, then the city called up and asked to put a lock on the street. And then people did that. So much for the topic of direct hacking of decisions. Maybe I wanted to say something about the police. You write a letter with nice arguments, with meaningful arguments from the police. You have to distance yourself from it. Well, it's not that hard, but it's... Next, we wanted to hack the party communication. Why do we want to hack a party communication? A party as a player in this political system is, on the one hand, subject to public opinion, because it wants to be elected by the people. On the other hand, it has its own goals for which it wants to apply and does so. So it has to have the public behind it. You can somehow do that by setting up people at Anne Will, who will tell you something, or making a card. And the first technique that can hack here as well as being known from many parts is the facement. It changes a advertising carrier. There are also people out there who keep themselves on the sun, and that's called adbusting. Exactly, and adbusting is... It's also an old method. You change the code of the adbusting by applying a different message. And then you often get a carpet knife and a bit of spray paint, and then adbusting has a completely different effect. The classic adbusting is actually aimed only at the public. So the people who walk past it and look at it. But that has changed a lot, because everyone has a cell phone with them and can photograph it, which makes the public even bigger. Adbusting can be set up against companies, but also against politicians. As you can see here, it's about... Often it's about letting the text fields create a new sense of change. And best of all, changing the card is no longer visible. That makes sense for the irritation and confusion of the viewer. Or it seems clear. You make the true intention of the politician clear. But I can just sit on confusion. Or you don't make it funny. The nice thing about it is that you can't get it out of your eyes anymore. You can see that every time. You make one card and... Or just talk about unwavering truths. It was limited for a long time on the card stand, but of course it can also be sent to the network. Everyone remembers the TV future campaign. And you can now grab such an unfortunate campaign and then simply put a tool into the network and then develop these things further. The same thing happened to Mr. Scheuble. It was a regular competition called on network politics. And then someone fainted, programmed a tool so that you don't have to photoshop it but simply put the text in it. You can also drive the whole thing on the tip collaboratively. And if you do something like that, you should always think of SEO. A little photoshop and immediately the blood of the company TROVICOR on the logo when I google it there. And that applies to TROVICOR, this surveillance company, but also to BP. So always think about it. The skills in search machines, against the political opponents, because they cost the correctness of these unwanted results, costs pig money, which you have to optimize in twilight search machines. Next, we are interested in interest groups. Of course, interest groups also have influence possibilities such as investing and pressing. But that only works in such a small frame. Because we still have public opinion as a firewall. And examples are we look at all the nuclear power debates or more value control in hotels. Yes, at some point the public opinion as a firewall is reported. And in this way, you can try this communication of interest groups that of course try to influence the public opinion so that they are as cheap as possible to hack. There was in Fukushima a catastrophe last year. This year? Yes, it's not that far yet. In this year a catastrophe that could be known to everyone very tragically. And the German nuclear power forum as a lobby association of German nuclear energy turns in such cases to security rhetoric and defamates security standards of other countries. This is a group of scientists that has exactly this communication strategy overspits satirically and to lock this lobby association out of the reserve. They did this with a fake Twitter account. So they originally just rebuilt the Twitter account of the German nuclear power forum and then said who of you wants to be without electricity turns off first. And the German nuclear power forum had a small Gag with its 500 followers on Twitter but the German nuclear power forum didn't let them sit on it and immediately took legal steps. We all know when Satira was attacked she won. It was immediately scandalized because in all media they were there as not only nuclear power operators but also sensors and it was a wonderful thing. It's a bit of a script-kiddy-style. You can be a little proud of it because everyone knows the effect. It's the radiation effect, it works. But much nicer you can of course hook up an interesting group if you install a virus. So a shard program is installed in this group which reproduces after the lock. And they did that in London the space hijackers very nicely. They went into the city of London in a pub and demanded a drunk banker for cricket. Cricket is a sport of the rich and they called it anarchists against capitalists and then in the night they played cricket with these bankers. And we had a lot of fun and then the police came and said you can't just play cricket, stop it show me your ID don't stop it, then there's a shard and we'll give you the hit. And the nice thing is the anarchists said yes, of course, we knew we expected it. But the bankers, the drunk bankers and so the space hijackers saw the virus of the unconscious. We come from the interest groups to the politicians. Politicians in this system influence in many ways but they are also a symbol of public perception for parties, for values, for positions and such goals of course are for impersonation attacks. So with name and voice for these people. Yes, you can do that for the Islamophobic Innenminister. Just create an account and then twitter it will be from Shröder immediately confirmed not only in Friedrich but also the Shröder hacked that this Friedrich account was only a few days longer and more known is the good old good the Mündteferring the account has more than a year existed so I think during the whole Amtszeit of Mündteferring as SPD chairman and again and again there are media and also parties with leaders and actually everyone has been re-entered several times. In the end the account has succeeded even three hours before Mündteferring to announce the return that has been live on NTV that you bring it as a report. The art of impersonation attacks is the game with the truth with the credibility and I have been told by the people who made the Mündteferring they really thought like Mündteferring so you have to have these twitter accounts that are immediately recognizable so you really have to speak with the voice and voice and the style of the people to be able to attack effectively and another example a small impersonation attack from this year not only with politicians but also with companies like Digitask all known as a state trojan company this account has led to the fact that on your side we don't have twitter we don't have anything on facebook but also Digitask is then in the big case and has sent a request to the hedonistic international which then again dissolves unexpectedly but the most beautiful thing was on this request that the lawyer of the company who suddenly admitted that the trojan is also used in Austria and they then had to admit that it was the Austrian politics so this little fun also got a bigger political dimension impersonation attacks not only on twitter but also on the street that is the editorial of the titanic they are kind of 2003 as minister president the candidates of the SPD went to house visits and were never terminated I am your SPD top candidate and never noticed that it is not the real one which speaks for the SPD minister president candidates enough impersonation attacks you can also drive the Nile of Service for example the response a few days ago happened at the NPD council in olgenburg we come to a politician who was also victim of hacker attacks this year we all know and love him because of his position for network barriers, advanced data storage his wife has held us great on RTL2 with the show Tatort Internet and has impressed many people because he always spoke well so that's why he was particularly smart he was a pretty good hacker and of course that also requires other hackers the first ones just looked at his doctor's work and what he did as an old communication strategist said, well, that's absurd and it worked the newspaper printed his more than reasonable and maybe instead of just to deliver the proof that still makes Giovanno DiLorenzo months later outside of the network there was always little information because there was no clarification, but only bulls everyone writes off was the argument of education and they are also the main target group guttenbergs similar, by the way, also Wolf where the people say, why can't you borrow money? what guttenbergs did there is called salami tactics by minimal necessary conditions to kill the enemy always only add so much how it is no longer lighting up that bothers the accusation and the accusation, so this topic the people should go to the mind the case becomes too complex, the people should lose the overview that goes from the hundredth to the thousandth and now he said something but they say that and the user one or two weeks back and say, yes, this is a witch hunt smallness, I am helpless and the case is for those who are not involved, because they want to read something else in the newspaper so it is a very good tactic and the question is, how can you defend yourself against it? by providing other pictures and with a demo for example, there was this demonstration and the debate was on the street or directly in front of the defense ministry there was a video behind it so this is still before his retreat and with the shoes on the fence and this has new pictures the debate and this symbolism of the shoes this is about creating pictures against pictures, against salami tactics must be created pictures debate debate debate debate debate debate debate debate you pay attention to the shoes the whole thing also had his success a few days later the good gentleman retreated also because of the media hat and yes and you remember, exactly what happened exactly this Facebook game with utopian increase and was then demanded we want to return Guttenberg half a million people sat there and then the demos were announced in 20 different cities and we already saw it before us and what was the situation for the political hacker the number of attacks was somehow over he was retreated you had a stage victory but there was exactly this big comeback danger and what to do in such a situation yes, you have to retreat yes but that is clear but you also have to change your tactics and not on the people but on the sympathizers because the sympathizers take over the public opinion that what we as firewall have over our whole system it is effective this firewall but we still want to keep it because if we don't have it, we have lost anyway and then the monarchy hedonistic front in the game spontaneously founded the initiative pro-Guttenberg and posted a participation call and said come here to this demonstration we are calling for participation and we want to finally monarchy and the copy and paste communists are also closing and the monarchy hedonistic front was reported to us was already in the preparation for the demonstration when suddenly the scare came the demo was not even reported well, you know that you have to do everything yourself so someone called the community authorities this demo was just reported and said that you have enough orders and customer service and so on and the police then took it against and said wonderful because yesterday someone else reported this demo we will tell you that that was the real one that was not a monarchy hedonist but he was very convinced that it was very good the initiative pro-Guttenberg and then pulled his report back and closed this report in this moment the monarchy hedonistic front was the initiative pro-Guttenberg report of the demo and there was no counter-demo anymore, that was the important now this report had to of course also look accordingly so that it does not fall what he is there in the sign now the police have the task they protect the collection and remove counter-demonstrants, that is known by nazis to march and this report there Alexander Müller was his name, he had the house right and could prevent it the next question of this demonstration was of course how many are coming now 10,000, 10,000 it was unclear here a few pictures of this demonstration in the end it was about 150 people of which about 20 Christdemonstrantes the rest were monarchy hedonists who then also from the police how it was expected to be removed and then Alexander Müller came into the game and said why bother my collection and the police said Mr Müller, they want to fool you that is not serious there is Guttenberg supposed to be a emperor and Alexander Müller answered very democratically Mr. Comissar, I can describe the people for which they should demonstrate, but not how the police said look, it's all left and Alexander Müller said no, there is no right, no left, we are a broad union small mistakes in this action were of course that all these posters carry the same handwritten now we have to remember because if you have enough pictures and that was exactly the thing you can also print good other people in your hand and they are still happy especially the young union Wuletal which two days later from this transparent officially distanced but not in the position to do so that you so they obviously distanced themselves from Guttenberg and that was already something sometimes there was also the difference between satirica and real demonstrators to make it very difficult so on the back this stand against the opinion maker stands head off with ARD and ZDF and I think he was really the guy so he was really good Alexander Müller, the reporter of course also gave media interviews in which he translated the narrative of the Guttenberg trailer a little bit to the tip we will show a little bit of it so to speak very understandable the German media must be broken it can't go on that the left-wing press simply besieges politicians how they want fat and world, I found that unsightly, these left-wing posters these these nice politicians he was totally nice and he was very competent he did it well with the writing for years nobody has noticed but he is very competent we have just shown we have a friendly gift of the modern archaeological front and that was a special transparent for those who don't know this is the ACDC in the area of Guttenberg has a very special reputation you can see that the monarchy was also prepared for a thousand or ten thousand people because this thing had a relatively big format and if there were more people you could have mixed under this demonstration then it would have been a big demo without any idiotic slogans there was also this right-wing writer the creator recognizes him and the uneducated make him the next valiant demonstration it only had a rudimentary reference and it is very difficult, you don't want to stand under it, but you can't defend yourself if it is a sign of the demo the demonstration also had its success, title of the show, but you can of course even more directly hack the next example is a wonderful combination from leaking and you can of course use real leaks for political hacks but you can also use false ones and this is of course also a method of hacking politics, in the next case it's about leaking a reverse honeypot and it is an irreversible case that was made the thing is not very simple, that's why we did it with showbillers it's about a fingered letter change in Austria and it is actually about this letter that has never been written an SPO ordered an Iraqi ruler had demanded at the Alps that all crosshairs be replaced by half months to not hurt the religious feeling of the Muslim fellow citizens that's what the Alps Association writes of course it has never happened we do it at a summit and we also do a Muslim spate at the Alps Association and this letter has a group of artists so this letter has written a group of artists and then sent to the media and as with this letter a real Austrian who has to stay anonymous and in June 2006 sent this fake letter and then leaned back and waited and the beauty is people already thought nothing else happened in September 2006 suddenly the BZÖ the top candidate Westenthaler at the national council sees the league triumphantly in the TV-duel out of the bag he called the SPO he wrote a letter to the vice president of the Austrian Alps and he feels in his religious freedom and says that in Austria there are many crosses the elegant thing was that there was never this letter and only this answer was fake and because of this he wins and of course has credibility that is also possible with the CDU but it went on after the TV-duel the Alps as well as the SPO then the right-wing Westenthaler because of his attitude a few days later the artist group says they have the motto how low can you go they wanted to test how far populist politicians go they know each other and Westenthaler lost the process in 2008 and then he announces a job why he doesn't do that and a few jokes put on the ala-kogel really one and a half months what politicians do also goes with parties back to our little show you can try with parties parties on the government on the parliament we remember the Berlin election and the phase after that these days are full of politics and we also have a few examples and here we brought a hack that at the same time has hacked a party and the media everyone knows there is this 18 o'clock moment the local elections are closed and then they switch from TV to the election parties and show the reactions of people and show the results in this case the FDP the locker 2% didn't make it Nils Schneider how is the mood there at the FDP the FDP members are shocked at the moment of the prognosis it was a dead silence it went through a lot and then it took a long time a few seconds to talk as slow as possible to talk as slow as possible to talk as slow as possible with the fields of economy and education which the FDP has agreed on Nils Schneider didn't make it ah stop it is so that so that the this hack quickly the part the party actually had people standing in front of the whole and that maybe also and to ensure that there is a better choice than to give false interviews. So not to solve it is often stronger and provides for more confusion, chaos and interpretation of game rooms. FTP is a goal, that was also the Titanic. It has once made a selection for you, just selection stands in which look and feel. So there are many ways of playing to hack parties. Then we also have from the time of Berlin the Bündnis 100. Nice website under Bündnis 100 to see. The Greens were very clear against the development of the Autobahn A100 in Berlin. But then of course they wanted to cooperate with the SPD, which wanted to do exactly that. So there was the Greens split and somehow at the party day the Greens suddenly appeared on this website. On which such a nice slogan stood like today we put the lights on green. traffic is now green, A100 is being built. So basically make a self-adaptation of the atom to self-adaptation of the car. With appropriate sponsoring on the website. Countdown to the construction site. And such things. What was a bit nice about this hack was that it didn't have such a large part as the animal side. But the goal was much more in the party. You know, the party sees that immediately as a firework and sees what's in its house. When they actually get away from their ideals. Yes, the next, that is now an action. People want to take over the FDP. But we don't believe that you can really take over parties. In fact, you really need a lot of people for that. Where in 1999 students have already tried to stay at the end. Then 500 members remain. So it's actually not what you want. And you need to take over parties. Actually a CADA organization. The only successful example of the last year is the organization Linksruck, which was very well installed in the left party with its interest strategy, at least in some positions. After the parties, we come to the media. Yes, media has two goals, i.e. media publications. On the one hand, you want to influence politics and society. On the other hand, you also have to make money. And because of that, you come into such little difficulties. And it will be a former Hamburg Redaction, which is now, I think, also resided in Berlin. She would act according to the motto, titan, animals, tears, death. And for the political hacker, of course, tears, tears and death immediately. Nakedness always works against it. And with the nakedness of the Serb virtuoso, the group Femen plays. That is an Ukrainian feminist group. And they use the sheer endless interest of the media to use the media as a vehicle and to place political protests against nuclear power, against dictators, for women's rights, with always quite spectacular actions, which are then even created in the image newspaper with the political message. So that's not bad at all. There is criticism that you, of course, operate the sexist clichés. I think that nakedness always works, like in Berlin, for example, showed the naked residential housing rallies, where naked people just go dancing in apartments. All apartments, I think, above 10 euros per square meter. The nakedness principle really works for ages and it doesn't work out. And if you know no other solution, you can always protest naked. Because of that, a very nice thing about 2007, was Sharping's daughters, who of course weren't her daughters, who suddenly appeared naked with the nakedness and swore into a limousine as a Sharping's daughter. The real daughters of Sharping didn't take part in the lie. Can we go back to another media effect that you can use? Or actually... Okay, let's go. I'd like to do it. Here, across the media market, when it was opened in Alexa, there was a big crowd. There were a lot of people and around that there were about 200 activists of the Hellenistic International, who led this event to escalation and called. One, two, three, give the iPods free. People, let it be a blast. Drive to the plunders now. And... This opening was somehow brought by the police under control and ended. And so it was this attempt, this action, this medial action of the opening, to give a little bit of a ridiculous chaos, to give the ridiculous price. Problems. The media market gets its attention. Two years later... Do it, I won't let you do it. Two years later, a saturn opens here at the Alexanderplatz. And now we actually come to the media hack of it. The saturn will pass through the same media number, special offers at night, people who rub themselves in a snap and activists of the central council of the surrounding Hellenists announce by press participation that they definitely won't come with 300 to 400 people. The method is to repeat and to work with the droh potential of the previous action. That's a principle that makes it anonymous too. That's a very effective principle. And what then happened is this here. No, that was before. The gate is somehow gone. So what you see there is a press report of the RBB at night, that only creates panic with the images of the media market opening. Activists believe in press participation. We definitely won't come with 300 to 400 people to this event, but with even more. But the Hellenists try to calm down. With the best greetings it is called. From us there is nothing to be feared. We wish the people a lot of fun in the snake and in the Prügelung the special offers. So we had a per-webcam and then looked at what happened in front of these saturns and that more and more police came. So you can drive the costs higher. But there was no sound. No one came. Another hack that really... Oh, that's your part. Yes, a last hack that then only focused on media. So here again really the medium, not as a vehicle, but as a victim. That was the commando Tito from Hadenberg. He pushed a false protagonist in the show Polylux. That was Tim, who weighs 170 kilos and makes a speed diet. So with amphetamines which I know the appetizers. And that was his desired effect. He wanted to eat less but he was always a little nervous. So he had to smoke five joints on the day. And this episode then went on Polylux with speed and performance here and next to the students. When the show was broadcasted the commando Tito from Hadenberg was well known. The MIS in research methods was criticized and pointed out. I think they still have the practical aspects of a 13th month for the shipping industry in Bangladesh. The most beautiful thing about this known video was that the world said in a comment that you can't control the aesthetic of the Islamic known videos. That's the big scandal. You can also play that on different levels. Let's come to the technical part. What's important to us now is the classic hacker. The hacktivist or whoever or maybe the middle-aged guy a few methods that we've shown on the way and hopefully the audience will learn something from it. It's really important to look into the area of communication how to talk, what to do, how to not just tweet but learn the language and get to know the system and get to know the opponent. The group that did what we've shown usually didn't have a head or a classic organization like Decentral, like Anonymous or Telecomix? Essentially, the classic hacktivist is to prevent conspiracies not to publicize, not to leave out too much. You can use effects later with other people but you always have to be ahead of the opponent and do the secret. You work a lot with surprise and you'd like to be prepared. You have to wait for your time and you have to have a plan B and a plan C. The preparation may be a bit longer. If I think that one or the other may be a website hacktivist today, you can think if the maximum effect is to write a hack sort by free quiz or if you think if you can play with it a bit longer. If you have a site like news of the world or if you burn it down in a firework or if you don't have a nice longer firework and then surprise at some point. And what would be nice is to play with a lot of people. There are always people who want to do it and they say, don't call the press and stuff. Instead of supporting each other and what can happen then rather play with it. That's right. Guerilla is conventionally militarily, infrastructurally and financially supported. It's not about keeping the site but simply using weak places to see confusion and insecurity and to secure support. And support should be offered. The conventional hack should be seen in a more strategic way. Fame will be available later and it will only get bigger. As late as possible. At least at the beginning. Not keeping the logo but letting the thing unfold is a lot of fun. Thank you very much. Politics hack by Alexander Müller and Montserrat Graupenschläger. As announced there is a Q&A in a few minutes. I would like to end the Q&As if possible. We also have a signal angel who is taking questions about the IRC. I would like to ask all the questions to the microphones. We already have a question. Please. Hello, Michi. I would like to make a point that was used in Austria to promote political activism. And these are award ceremonies. There were protests against the G20 in Bologna. There was a theater group in Austria and the foreign minister was very much involved with the argument that these are the common disturbances and we want them to be locked in there. A few years later as a Federal President a candidate was appointed and they wrote a competition for a election slogan. And they sponsored the competition with slogans. They won a candidate in March. And they were allowed to attend the award ceremonies and give their statements on the stage. We have done something similar and the TV director of the Austrian TV in the spring of this year was very much against net neutrality. In the summer they decided to do an award which is an open society award which can be reported in websites and initiatives. And we have reached the initiative for net neutrality and we were successful but we placed the topic where it was actually brought up. And I think this is also a kind of protest where you can use it well for the political actors or the actors to convey their message. Yes, I think there are still many possibilities. You can also place speakers as a false organization. I think the burden of your creativity is free of charge and there are really beautiful opportunities and it's fun, I think. We have another question over there, please. From a different perspective, I think. But didn't you talk about export? Export? Export is the industry then the machine and sales in abroad but this is from foreign politics. I think. Politics from What is your question? My question is what is your picture? What is the industry of production? Yes, we are just being hacked. Maybe that's one of the party-makers from yesterday. We have a question over IRC, please. We took exactly three questions. One is, please, what was the real deal at the Alpenverein-Aktion. That was a bit wasted. At the Alpenverein-Aktion, the guy who was hacked. That was a complaint against the western taler of the BZH. Otherwise, everything was free. Then there was another question. Did these actions have any other reactions? Were there money fines? Did some people really get punished? Alexander Müller was thinking about whether we could come up with it. We had a police report that they had to explain that Mr. Trolle was the president of the police, that he was protected from the right to free opinion. Generally, I think it's important. There are enemies that don't attack you anymore. If I take the German bank and do something about food, I don't care that they don't do a process anymore. In general, you should be careful with high-quality signs and some official weapons from cities, police, etc. It can happen quickly if you get caught. Otherwise, it depends a lot on the enemies you have, whether they are guilty and whether they don't attack you. If you write something as a police, you should leave some security measures. A very short question. I wanted to note that you need a plan B. There is a beautiful thing in Hamburg. A very small party back then. They wanted to make a statement about the top candidate of the biggest party. They rejected the argument that it hurt their personal rights and so on. The party then took a very harmless statement back. The main thing is that the UAL is in the newspaper and put the statement on their homepage. Look, they didn't want to print it. That was a beautiful plan B. I always think that it can go wrong and it's good if you can pull out a bag and play. It always goes wrong. Thank you very much. A big round of applause for the speakers.