 Looks like recording is in progress. Well, good evening, everybody glad to see that we've got a good. Good list of folks that are attending welcome to our. First meeting our virtual meeting for the non FEMA flood risk area initiative that we've been working on for several years here at the city and storm water management. My name is Claire Davis and the flood plan administrator for the city. And I've been the technical lead on this project and Jennifer has been the overall policy lead. And between the 2 of us, we've had a whole lot of involvement in this program program and project for several years now. We've got a virtual meeting format. So there's, I guess, there's a way we're trying to manage getting as much input from folks as we can. You can see on the little black bar across the bottom here that I've got kind of the raise your hand symbol circled here in red. Whenever you want to make a comment, please. Click that and then it will alert us that you've got a question for us. And then if you got other questions, you can put them in the chat over here. Again, during the presentation, everybody else is going to be muted. We'll answer questions at the end of the meeting. And again, if you have a question, please post it in the chat so we can make sure that we're recording those questions and can get an answer to you. And then this presentation is being recorded. So, thanks for being here to participate and looking forward to seeing the questions we get. There we go. So, for an agenda today, we've got a look at some of the historic flooding in Fort Worth kind of a brief overview of the stormwater program primary functions. And then we're going to dig into the 2 types of flooding that we see routinely in the city and then the FEMA floodplains that everybody's familiar with. And then the focus of this presentation, the non FEMA flood risk areas. We'll also talk about where to find the information that we're talking about here. So if we made a lot of this information, newly available to the public, take a look at what our next steps are. And then take a look at some website demos for the information locations that we talked about. And then we'll dig into the questions as we go. So, Fort Worth is not a stranger to flooding. We've got some photos here from some, some historic flooding. These are, by and large, going to be the FEMA type of flooding on the large rivers on the top, the Trinity River from 1922 Marine Creek in the stock yard, 1938. Again, Marine Creek in 1942 is a big flood and then essentially the flood of record for the city of Fort Worth is May 17th, 1949. That's the one that flooded inside the levees because the levees breached and then flooded the Montgomery wards building up to the 2nd floor. So that's kind of our, our biggest flood that we're aware of experiencing since we've been a city and definitely 1 of the areas types of flooding that we're working really hard with the Terrain Regional Water District and the Corp engineers to prevent further damages like those. But we're also seeing flooding that happens not in the typical FEMA flood plains. And that's kind of what will be the focus of this meeting. Big picture of the stormwater division's mission statement is to protect people in property from harmful stormwater runoff. I've got a couple of examples here on the left is a FEMA type floodplain that has overtopped the road and caused a real hazardous situation there. Vehicles can get swept off road if the flooding is deep enough. So those are a type of flood risk that we're trying to be aware of. And then on the right is, is a situation more indicative of the non FEMA floodplain that we've been talking about. This is in a neighborhood kind of south of the TCU area. And for all intents and purposes, it looks just like a floodplain. It just doesn't happen to be on a map. For primary functions of the utility, we have really four main ones that we work on. We maintain our infrastructure, which consists of pipes, channels, those kinds of things. We mitigate hazards, including flooding and erosion. We warn about the hazards also for flooding and erosion. And then we review development so that it complies with city standards for drainage and those kinds of things. And I got some photos of the types of things that we're talking about here. The maintenance side has some of our debris removal trucks. We've got a detention pond in the center bottom. Our stormwater criteria manual on the right and then part of our flood warning system on the top right. When it gets into the flood types of flood risk we talking about again, the FEMA floodplains on the left Trinity Boulevard and precinct line. That's one of the larger streams that actually flows out of Hearst and Richland Hills, North Richland Hills area crosses down through Fort Worth and then crosses over the top of Trinity Boulevard. And we've got some warning, warning infrastructure out there, but you can see that somebody is still managed to drive off into that, but that is one of the larger FEMA type floodplains that we deal with on a routine basis. On the right is another example of the non FEMA or the non mapped floodplains that are out there. And these are important for us because we have really more reports of flooding outside of the FEMA floodplains than inside. We've got more flood insurance policies and claims are also outside the FEMA floodplains. And frequently we're finding that the flood risk from these non FEMA floodplains is too extensive to mitigate through capital projects and easily kind of easy kind of way. And the table here shows that the numbers of policies that we have in the city as the floodplain administrator I track different types of flood insurance claims and local and policy locations so that helps us plan and understand kind of where flood risk is. And from a policy perspective, you can see that there's like twice as many policies outside the floodplain is in those that have one claim. Again, there's almost twice or a little over twice and then for areas that have two or more claims, it's four times as many as outside than inside the floodplain. So these are serious indicators that we've got a significant flooding problem outside the FEMA floodplain that's been mapped by FEMA. So what's the difference between the two? I guess I just I guess a reminder on I did hear a question coming in there. If you'll throw that question into the chat, we'll be sure to grab that for you and then make sure that we're answering that as we go along. We're not the only folks that have been dealing with and looking into flooding outside the FEMA floodplain. In 2018 and 2019, there were three large reports that were issued by national type associations that looked into urban flooding or non FEMA flooding. It seems like urban flooding is kind of the name that most of those organizations chose to represent that type of flooding. We've got the Pix fandom Galveston and University Park on the left, urban flooding threat and national challenge. Then in the center is the ASFPM Foundation, that's the Association of State Floodplain Managers. They had a big report that they put together and provided to Washington. And then on the right is the challenge of urban flooding in the United States. And that's just an example of those types of reports that were prepared in the same timeline that we were starting to dig into the same issue. So we were also lucky to be involved in those reports as well. FEMA also recognizes that there's a problem that exists outside the FEMA floodplains that have been mapped on the paper maps for years and years. They've created this new tool called the estimated base flood elevation viewer. It uses a similar kind of technology to understand the flood risks that are outside the FEMA floodplains on the paper maps for areas that are not mapped. And that's really helpful for cities and communities that are trying to deal with development coming into these areas to help prevent those areas from being flooded or damaged as a result of flood type events. But without some sort of mapping to know where the floodplain is, those developments could happen in a place that was really at risk of flooding. So this is a very helpful tool that FEMA came up with. Other cities in our area include City of Dallas that has a similar mapping product that they use to understand flooding that's going on outside their floodplain maps. The green on this one is the Mills Creek drainage basin and then the kind of the orangey yellow is the Peaks branch, two different basins, but they're nearby within the City of Dallas. And they also use this information to help scope different capital projects for different parts of town. And then finally, City of Grand Prairie has citywide drainage master plans that they have prepared to show the same kind of flooding that's going on outside the FEMA floodplains. And I used to work for City of Grand Prairie and I know that it's very flat and large part of that city. And so you end up getting a lot of this kind of widespread, real shallow flooding like you can see on this map here. There's the deepest spots are actually in the streets where there's some sort of conveyance system, but they do have this type of product for their whole city. Then again, for us, we've been really working very hard with a variety of stakeholders. Since 2018, we really kicked off this project and we really put together a pretty robust stakeholder group. We had a bunch of residents, developers, property owners, engineering firms and insurance companies, title insurance lawyers and commercial and residential lenders and surveyors all helped to understand what that risk looked like. We also worked with different groups like the Tarrant Appraisal District, the Association of Realtors, Real Estate Council, Builders Association, Development Advisor, Academy, City Council, Planning and Zoning Commissions and then other city departments who would have a stake in trying to understand this type of risk. When it comes to really looking into what our projects or this project was going to try to provide, the three main things that we came up with where there were some concerns about how we were dealing with this information or how we wanted to deal with the information. From a big picture perspective, we wanted to be able to provide some maps to show where the blood zones were located and then also communicate the risk and then regulate the risk ultimately. And then as part of the discussions, we came up with what were the biggest concerns that these individual stakeholders had. On the mapping side, the biggest deal was let's call it something other than a floodplain. When people talk about floodplains, when they hear floodplains, they think about FEMA and then the potential insurance requirements, those kinds of things. That was a significant hurdle. We wanted to make sure that we cleared on that. We also wanted to make sure that we were clear about our maps not being a requirement for flood insurance. That's sort of an interesting topic because a lender can require flood insurance at any time. It's up to them to require that except when there's a property in the floodplain and that's the only time that it's mandatory. If it's in a FEMA floodplain, then the flood insurance is required for any kind of property that has a federally backed mortgage. At the end of the day, on the mapping side, we came to learn that as people become aware of the flood risk and as people become aware of how to find this information, there would be less confusion about how these maps were shown and less real concerns about how this type of mapping could influence real estate transactions. On the communication side, the main question was how will this impact property values? There's a lot of information that goes on with property values and flooding. If you're a resident of Houston or Austin, you know that flooding is a frequent occurrence in those areas, so it doesn't have a big influence on property values there. We also found here, dealing with our own situations, that there's a wide variety of factors that go into property values. The biggest one that we found was that evidence of actual flooding was the thing that really affected property values most. It wasn't so much the way that these flood areas were being communicated or mapped that was going to really affect property values. Finally, on the regulatory side, if we want to do something that helps prevent future damages by either new developments or redevelopments in these potential flood prone areas, what do those regulations or potential regulations do to impede development? Realistically, this is a new policy that is only going to apply to those developments that are one acre in size or less. Any kind of development that's one acre or larger already goes through a fairly rigorous city review process for stormwater management. There's kind of this loophole that exists for those properties that are less or projects that are less than an acre. What we wanted to do is try to provide some sort of notice to those property owners and developers so that as they came in with their smaller project, they were made aware of these types of risks and could then deal with the risk as part of their project planning. To really do that, we're looking to have some sort of a compliance certification to show that they've been made aware of it and that they're dealing with the risk appropriately. The biggest perk here for us is that all of this is going to be managed at the local level. If not going to be any sort of FEMA issue, we feel like that's going to be the way that would be most flexible for those kinds of situations. I guess there's another thing here. We dug into the potential impacts on building permits that would be affected by any of these concerns. What we found is that between May of 2021 and May of 2022, only 12 commercial permits and 20 residential permits would have been affected by this type of outreach and communication. When it comes to these non-FEMA flood risks, how we want to deal with them. What that means is that out of 19,000 permits that were issued by the city during that one year period, only 32 had any sort of interaction with one of these flood type areas. So it's not a big number, but it could be potentially important to those permits and projects that are developing. So what does it look like? What are we talking about when we talk about flooding that's outside the FEMA floodplain? Just like on that other photo that I showed, if you've got a bunch of flooding and a bunch of water that's collecting in residential areas or any commercial areas, this is the kind of thing that we're seeing. It is functionally very similar to a FEMA floodplain by the way that the water accumulates, but if it's not on the map, then there's no way for people or businesses to be aware of this kind of situation. So these are just some examples of flooding that we've seen across the city. Some other examples are here. These are taken from social media accounts that we were made aware of, kind of showing, you know, water flowing outside the stir crazy baked goods offices. And then you can see a kind of high waterline on those vehicles that got, you know, almost as high as the wheels there. And then other vehicles across the street there potentially getting flooded from those that kind of run off. And this is a video, hopefully it will run here. This is the tacos Mexican cuisine on Magnolia Avenue. This is one of the areas that we have mapped as a potential flood area. And you can see this is in the whole street Magnolia is a wide street. A phenomenal just great. And we've got basically curb to curb full width of the street that's, you know, probably close to a foot deep. That's a significant amount of water. And this is not the only location that we have something like this going on. Again, some other recent photos of flooding in an area outside the FEMA floodplain. So again, the recommendations that we we discussed with our stakeholder groups were communication regulation and getting some maps out there. And the mapping is tied to our communication. We've got a number of new mapping products that are out there that we'll do a kind of a walk through on some of those here shortly. On the regulatory side, again, these are only those projects and locations that are less than an acre in size. We're already developing those locations that are over an acre and those already have to show compliance with our drainage standards. And then for these projects that are going to be less than an acre, there's a certificate of compliance to show that they're meeting existing drainage standards within our stormwater criteria manual. We're not looking at a rigorous engineering review at this time. An engineer will still be involved, but it's really just to make sure that the certificate of compliance is completed. And they've done all the work they need to do to show that they're not impacting other properties. And then what are these recommendations mean for the other property owners? Basically helps them make informed decisions either before purchasing or before developing so that they can be aware of the flood risk that's out there. Last thing that we want is for some smaller type project to really be impacted by flooding. We know that we see this from time to time where folks don't have an idea that there is a flood risk in these areas because they're not getting any kind of review that goes with the development as they come in for less than an acre. So we want to make sure that all sizes of developments get some sort of information that's related to flood risk in these areas and that they're also complying with existing drainage standards. And then finally flood insurance is not required in any of these areas because they're outside the FEMA flood plains, but flood insurance is available to anyone in the city that wants flood insurance or if they have a flood risk that they think is more than they want to try to deal with and want to have that extra level of protection that flood insurance is available in these areas as well. So we'll now take a look at kind of what the mapping products that we have and we're going to start with our FEMA flood plains. This is kind of the old standard that we've had for years and years. In this situation it's colored blue just so it shows up very well on our GIS or our online mapping. The old FEMA maps used to be kind of a grayscale when they were printed on paper and then they've since gone to a more multicolored situation, but for simplicity's sake and being able to see kind of what's going on in the area on these maps, we're going to go with a blue color on these. And this is essentially what FEMA would call the 100 year or 1% flood. This is the area, the blue areas where flood insurance is going to be required if your property or your development with a loan on it is within one of these zones. And so you can see that there's very limited in this kind of university TCU, very street area. There's not a lot of FEMA flood plain in there. There's as you go towards Port Worth Zoo, there's a bunch of flood plain there, but very narrow, thin flood plain over here by TCU on the left hand side. And in the middle, there's really doesn't appear to be much going on. One of the other products we've got is this air, what we call potential high water areas. And this kind of is a, it's a low level of detail. And we're not talking about regulating in this at all. It's all strictly advisory, but it shows how the natural drainage patterns extend much further upstream than the FEMA flood plains are. And all this is, it's a lower level of detail, but still a useful hydraulic model that shows when rain falls on the terrain. We're showing where the water collects and then continues to run downhill until it creates a large enough drainage basin to be mapped by FEMA. And that's kind of one of the downsides of FEMA is they stopped looking at basins that are less than one square mile in size. But you can tell that there's obviously a lot more water still running over land in these areas that are upstream of the one square mile limit. We're going to have, again, this is going to be shown on a website that we have with our flood information located on it. And currently you can get notice of this type of flooding on the city's one address application that I'll also show later. And then finally, the city flood risk areas are the orange here. There's only about three square miles of this mapped in the city right now that's an ongoing project. These are very detailed models that have all the pipe systems included in there. So you can see that the city flood risk area, the CFRAs, these are the areas we're talking about regulating. They have the pipe systems included. So they're a little bit smaller in a number of locations than the potential high water of that lower level of detail. So it's going to be a much more refined look at what's going on, but it also generally pretty closely matches what the potential high water of that lower level of detail shows. There is a lot of potential flow over the land upstream of the FEMA flood plains because the storm drain systems in these areas are just not able to handle the water. And again, this is kind of a zoom in out a little bit further. The FEMA flood plains are this 100 year or 1% chance per year type of a flood. It's a it's a big rare event, but it's definitely one of the it's kind of the baseline flood event that we work with and that other cities work with when it comes to dealing with flood risk. Again, flood insurance is required in the FEMA flood zones and the city's been a participant in the national flood insurance program since 1980. And we do that so that flood insurance is available to anybody in the city for worth. And that requires certain types of permitting for new developments within those flood zones. Again, these are, you know, the focuses on these areas that are one square mile or larger. So it doesn't have a lot of the refined detail that you might show where flood risk exists outside of those areas. And another assumption that FEMA had was that if it's in an urbanized area, then the drainage has been handled. And so that's not always been the case. Sometimes, you know, there's there's situations where the pipes aren't big enough or there may not be any pipes at all. And those aren't going to be shown on the FEMA flood plain maps. Part of what we do though, an additional thing is that the city participates in this community rating system. CRS is a program that we basically show all the additional work that we do to help reduce and minimize flooding and to get reduced flood insurance premiums. So right now there's a 10% discount on flood insurance for anybody in the city. And starting in April, that'll go to 15% because we've just recently recertified with some additional credit than we had prior to this. Again, the city flood risk areas, we have 16 detailed study areas that we've looked at generally within the loop. They're not citywide at this point. These are very detailed and relatively expensive studies to do. So we have to really work them in as we get new study areas identified for priorities and where we can get the most bang for our buck paying for those studies. It's the same 1% chance flood risk as the FEMA flood plain. So we want to make sure that we're comparing Apple and Apple's there. And again, we're focusing more on older parts of town that don't have the more current infrastructure installed and haven't been designed to the same standard as we have today. And again, the goal here is to help. We want to be able to prioritize future capital projects and understand what the flood risk in these areas. But there's again, not going to be a flood insurance requirement in these areas. None of these orange zones would show up on the FEMA map at all. And so the flood insurance premiums in those areas should be lower. That's going to be a question to take to an insurance agent. FEMA recently revised their insurance program so that they look differently at the flooding than they used to. It's still only going to be the requirement to have the flood insurance within those blue zones here for this map. Then on the potential high water, this is the kind of lower level of detail I mentioned. Again, you can see there's potential flood risk outside of the city flood risk areas that we have the details study for. And again, that's going to be a limitation of the information that we've got available. There's only so many areas that we've studied at this point with the real refined information. But the lower level of detail still provides a very useful look at what the natural drainage patterns are and where water is flowing as it works its way downhill. And so the potential high water product will be really useful for folks that live outside of one of those city flood risk areas or the FEMA flood plains if they want to really understand what the natural drainage patterns look like and kind of what their flood risk might be if they had any questions about that. So why do we have all these areas that are flood prone that are not on the FEMA flood plain maps? Well, the main indicator for us is undersized or obsolete storm drain systems. And this map kind of shows that same kind of green neighborhood boundary that we looked at in the previous maps, but with a little more detail related to the storm drain systems. And you can see that some of those storm drain systems were put in in the 1920s. There have been areas that have been updated over time from the 1970s, 80s and 90s. But there's just a lot of the storm drain system that was constructed early on when those areas were developed first that's still in place. And that's going to be one of the ongoing challenges for us as a utility is to how to manage these older storm drain systems and get those things updated as we can over time. And that's really one of the things that we really want to understand how the flood risk is affecting these areas so that we can plan our capital program around those. And this, I'll flashback real real quick, this lower storm drain system that has 1997 on the left and our 1921 on the right. This is the plan set from that storm drain system right here. This is from the 1921 improvement project where they went in and installed a new new pipe right down the street. It says Robert Street that street name has been changed. This is in the Ryan Place area. And then you can see kind of that squiggly line that runs above the street there where it says ravine. That's that's the old stream channel. When these neighborhoods were laid out, there were there are frequently situations where there was an old stream channel that ran not exactly in line. There were the street systems out there. And sometimes that's where water still wants to go. And so that was an issue back then. It's still an issue now that we're still trying to work with. And then on the other red box, you can see where they're replacing a 10 foot wooden inlet with a 10 foot concrete inlet. So even though this was an improvement project, they didn't improve the drainage. They just improved the material in some situations to make them more durable. And then some locations were still dealing with some of those same old pieces. So three ways to find this flood risk information and put it to use. Again, I mentioned the one address, which is on the city's main webpage. You have to search for it there. I'll show you how to get to that here in just a little bit. Basically, that's a location where you can find any kind of information related to your address and then what's going on around it. It's got a location for building permits. It's got, you know, some crime statistics. It's got different council districts and trash pickup days, all kinds of things, including if there's FEMA floodplain or the potential high water areas in that location. We also got the FEMA map sort of center where you can see the actual FEMA maps. If you have any questions about whether or not your property or project is affected by a FEMA floodplain and then the new Fort Worth flood risk viewer that we'll take a look at here. On the one address application, we've got the web link up the top there, one address, Fort Worth Texas dot gov. When you put in your address, that's, you'll get this kind of information right here in the reference section within 50 feet of a FEMA floodplain. That's because we have a buffer on all of our FEMA floodplains of 50 feet so that people within that area will have an idea that those floodplains are nearby. And then the little high button there will give you a pop up statement over here on the right. It's talking about the FEMA floodplains, you know, what they're based on, where they're located, where to get more information on those. And then also the potential high water with a similar little pop up button for the mousing over the high. And basically it describes the type of flood risk product that we prepared and generally talking about drainage patterns and how to be mindful of those as you're working in your area of interest and who you can contact for more information. This is a kind of a screenshot of the FEMA map service center. Again, their web link is relatively simple msc.fema.gov. That will take you to this location where you just pop in your address right here and then it will take you to the appropriate FEMA floodplain map that shows what's going on at that specific location. It's not going to take you to the exact location that really close to it and it should have a pin to drop right on it. Just want to make sure that you're paying attention to exactly where it is on the map there and that'll give you a good idea of what the FEMA floodplain maps look like nearby. And then again our flood risk viewer, which is a new mapping tool that we created. It's available and live now. It's got a long link down here at the bottom, but this QR code over here on the left will also take you right there if you scan that with your phone. And this is an example of the type of information we have there. There's the FEMA floodplains on the lower right and then they tie into the city flood risk areas, the orange zone here on the left. And we'll be adding the potential high waters, those pink flood zones. As soon as that information available is being refined right now to be a little smoother and more useful looking than the pure model output that we had up until now. And I've shown you other maps that when you zoom in on it, it looks a little ragged on the edges, but we'll have it smoothed out. And that should be done by the end of the year and we'll upload that to this map site as well. And on this map here I've got the Hazel Harvey Peace Center highlighted in kind of green. This is where our in-person meeting will be on Wednesday. Just kind of give you an idea of the types of information that's out there and how close it is to some of these other city facilities that we use on a regular basis. We also provide outreach to the community and areas that have flood risk in them through physical letters that we mail out every year. This is one that went out September of this year. If you're in a FEMA floodplain or in one of the city flood risk areas, a letter very similar to this was sent to your address. And if you're an owner or a renter of a property, you should be receiving a letter like this. We want to make sure that people that live there, if they don't own it, are aware of the flood risk. And if somebody has multiple properties that they're a property owner, we want to make sure that they're able to see this flood risk information as well. This doesn't necessarily mean that there's going to be a flood. It just means that there's flood risk nearby or you're in one of these FEMA flood zones where there's a chance for a rare storm to cause some potential damage. We want to make sure that everybody's aware of this. And then if available, there's different types of resources that could apply to mitigation of kind of damages or any kind of negative experience you have with flooding. There's a bunch of resources out there that we're trying to make folks aware of. Again, this is part of our outreach that we do for flood risk areas as part of the community rating system. And that also all helps to reduce flood insurance premiums for folks in the city. For next steps, we want to again get our potential high water areas uploaded to the website by the end of the year. That project, our product is being refined right now. We have regulations that are going to be adopted by ordinance that we're targeting for the end of December of 2022. And then we'll start looking for those certificates of compliance starting in January of 2023. So these are all coming up fairly soon and this is really what we want to make folks aware of as part of this meeting process. And so now it's time for the demos. Let me see if I can stop sharing this and share what our demos look like. So this is our flood risk viewer. Again, this is the Hazel Harvey Peace Center that we looked at earlier. See if we can put in any address here. There's a list of tools across the top. Locate an address here. If we want to do 200 Texas Street, which is City Hall, it'll take you right there and it'll allow you to zoom in and out. They'll show you that there is similar types of flood risk in downtown Fort Worth. Some of it even going right by the current City Hall. And so this is a really simple tool to use. The locate address is going to be probably the main thing that you'll want to use with this. If you don't know the exact address, you can put in cross streets. You can pan around and zoom in, zoom out. And then there's a whole bunch of identified tools that will let you look at different things as well. There's street information. There's our city flood risk area. And it tells you the East Central Business District watershed. The type of storm it was. All of those things that are relative to that storm event. And again, if you zoom out a little further, you can see that it's the FEMA flood plains that run right through downtown or around downtown as well. Super useful stuff that will be able to tell you exactly what's kind of going on in your area. And again, we don't have city flood risk areas all over town. They're primarily within the loop. I'll zoom out a little bit here so you can kind of get a feel for where those areas are. And it looks like, again, it's generally up to 183 a little bit further north and then a little bit further south. A little bit over here in the Meadowbrook area. There's some other study areas that we've got. So there's not tons of them, but they're out there and then useful if you live in one of those areas. For now, I think I'll close that one in our FEMA flood risk area. FEMA flood plains. So again, the FEMA flood zones can be found on the FEMA's flood map service center. Again, just mse.fema.gov. We'll take you here at your address and you'll want to put a zip code in there. We can't see the FEMA viewer. That was sharing. So this is the FEMA map service center. Again, it's just mse.fema.gov. It will add these terms on the end here. That's all you need to know. Then just like we showed on the little screen capture, enter your address here. Be sure to include a zip code because the FEMA website is national. It's not built around Fort Worth like our flood risk viewers are. And then it will take you to the appropriate map of that area. And that can give you an overview of where you're at still waiting. Some additional product to pop up. That's one thing the FEMA map service center is not fast still thinking here. As well, it thinks it might be good just to mention Claire in terms of FEMA. The FEMA website always has the most accurate up to date information on the mapping. But then of course we try to put the FEMA information into our Fort Worth flood risk viewer to make it easier for the public. But the latest and greatest is always at FEMA and that's because they're constantly updating their information. And so we can't update it as frequently on our web maps. So just kind of wanted to mention that. Yeah, that's a great point. We update our FEMA data once or maybe twice a year. But FEMA, like Jennifer just mentioned that they update their maps constantly. It doesn't mean that every location changes constantly, but there will be changes across the maps all the time. And now that we've got all of our other information on this one. What this is showing is that the current city hall right here is right next to the a map panel edge. So there's one map up here on the north one map to the south. This is our approximate location. You can see the selected map boundary down here. And then all this other information is related to different flood zones, those kinds of things that are available. You can see those flood zones over here on the left as the Trinity River goes through and then different colors or different levels of flood risk. So the orange is going to be the 500 year, which is a FEMA product that really they kind of focus on. We're more concerned with the 100 year, which is just kind of shaded blue and then the hatch color there. And you can also look into like a dynamic map, which has a little more detail for you to kind of zoom around in. And then kind of investigate what the flood risk in your area looks like on the FEMA perspective on that map. And again, it's also not very fast. I guess while we're waiting on that one, I can look up to the cities. There we go. So what this does is it gives you kind of the more detailed version with all the same stuff is in a kind of a printable form. It's something that you can print out easily on 11 for 8 and a half by 11 that shows what's going on there. But again, it doesn't have any of the city flood risk areas. FEMA doesn't care about that. What they show here is that you're in this zone X, which is outside the floodplain as far as FEMA is concerned. I mean, they don't acknowledge that this other information exists. So it's good to get the best insurance premium that way through FEMA, but it doesn't really reflect the risk that's out there. And so from here, I'll go to the city's one address and again, look at our city hall downtown. As soon as you start typing in the address, it will pick up the available addresses that are valid for that information you've typed in so far. And then it'll base your search on that. So over here on the right gives you a map of the area you can zoom in and zoom out. It really just gives you kind of a location of what's going on with different addresses that are associated with those areas that you typed in. And again, the location data, neighborhood profile, code violations, different permits, all that stuff is here. It's all really useful. But what we're talking about is the reference section right here that talks about is it within 50 FEMA floodplain? FEMA floodplain no. Is it potential high water? No. But we're going to be adding in the city flood risk areas, which will be a new line within here. That should be done by probably the end of the year as well. And that'll be a little extra detail that you can get when you go to the one address application to see what's available out there. But all of these are pretty straightforward, easy to use. So take a little time to load so you want to make sure that you're being patient with them, particularly the FEMA stuff. All of the Fort Worth applications are pretty quick, so it shouldn't be really shoe there. But there's just a variety of information that's available to you. And the one address is super useful for all kinds of things, not just the flood risk size, but all sorts of information that's useful for wherever you're at in the city. And with that, let's get back to our presentation. So we've completed our demos. We're now at the point where we can start to take some questions and see what the information has come into the chat. We'll be glad to take that information just to make sure that, again, you're raising your hand, clicking the button there so we can make sure that we're seeing that you're asking a question. And then if you can also put your questions into the chat so we can make sure that we're getting the information that you're trying to convey to us there as well. This is Linda. We had one question earlier. I think that gentleman may have left the meeting, but nonetheless the question was about developer runoff. And while I believe the question was geared toward if there is currently a development that's causing runoff, I think that the presentation you've given also speaks to what the effort that we're doing here is going to do for future development. But if you want to talk a little bit about that, I think that would be helpful everyone listening. Sure. So, again, we, when we've got this additional flood risk information for these non FEMA flood risk areas, either the city flood risk areas with the more detailed or the less detailed potential high water areas. All of that is going to be useful for someone who's going to be developing in an area where there's already development going on. If there's an existing neighborhood where there's going to be a new project that comes in, whoever is developing the new project has access to this information to see kind of where the natural drainage patterns are that they might not have had in prior years before this information was developed. So there's there's a bunch of work that we do as a city to try to help ensure that any new project that comes in isn't creating additional runoff that thieves decide in a way that causes harm to adjacent properties. But if those projects are smaller than an acre, they haven't been getting reviewed. This will be a way for us to help close that gap. And then look at those, those smaller projects that are going to have water running off, you know, either more or than anticipated or or they wouldn't even know that they're increasing runoff or has a drainage problem out there. So this will help inform those developers and also help people that live nearby there understand kind of what's going on and what those drainage patterns look like. Once we start getting those certificates of compliance and that'll be kind of the way that we're showing that those developments have looked at adjacent drainage conditions and have met the requirements that we would have for cities. The city's drainage, drainage regulations, how it affects, you know, water leaving the side in a way that's supposed to match existing conditions. Not increasing runoff or causing it to accumulate in a way that would be some sort of either a violation of the city's regulations or the state water code that essentially kind of prohibits concentrating water and putting it onto an adjacent property in a way that causes harm. So, and just to touch on that a little bit differently is we get a lot of calls at the city from developers or residents or property owners that are just often surprised it rains and then they realize how there's flooding in the area or their property. And so that's really the whole purpose of this initiative is to make sure that people are aware because we at the city have this information. We're aware of the risk. We want our community to be as aware of the non FEMA flood risk as they are of the FEMA flood risk. So really just trying to ensure that everyone does understand their risks so they can take that into consideration when they go and they make property improvements or develop their property and so forth. That's right. The bigger projects are going to have to already go through those types of. Checks and balances. They're going to have engineers on staff. They're going to really understand how to make all that work. And it's really the smaller ones that have kind of less flexibility and how they develop and where they develop and may not have the resources to really get as many engineers involved in their project as they would have as a larger project. So we want to make sure that all those folks are kind of have the same benefit to receive from this type of flood risk. It's out there now. So as a bit of a follow up to that, Miss Mary Callagher is asking Claire or Jennifer, why does the city continue to permit development when the city knows they don't have adequate infrastructure or money to fix it? Well, it's an interesting question. I think we need to. There's been a lot of effort put in over the years to try to design strong drain systems for what they used to call fully developed conditions so that, you know, as as areas were developed. There was there's a way to anticipate how much runoff is is leaving a site. And all of our infrastructure as much as possible was tried to design for those those conditions when everything is fully built out. I think the downside of that assumption was there's a lot of parts of town that were developed before those regulations were in place. So we're really trying to understand how these potential infill type developments can affect, you know, storm drain systems that are in these older neighborhoods and also look, you know, further downstream where there's, you know, maybe no storm drain system. Like I know that Mary lives on the east side of town. So there's a lot of large Trinity floodplain that's out that way, but also other streams that drain into that area. You know, everything from upstream drains through there. So we want to make sure that we're being as mindful of potential impacts in that area as well. So, to touch on that a little bit more to in a different way is, is we do have. We have very good drainage regulations at the city, Fort Worth. They are based on generally accepted engineering practices and they, a lot of them come from the. North Central Texas Council of governments, which is a group that kind of overseas and provides recommendations across the Dallas, Fort Worth area in terms of development and drainage and environment. And so, so our standards are based off of a lot of their recommendations. And we do understand that there are gaps in our standards and that's 1 thing that we are continuing to work to address. And so this non FEMA flood risk initiative was the very 1st initiative to really try to address the gap. In our drainage standards in terms of the flood risk communication for non FEMA areas and then regulating those areas. Less than 1 acre where we understand that flood risk in detail. So the 2nd step now is that we're going to be taking a look at. Cumulatively the whole impact of development on flood risk and taking another look at our standards now in a different way to see if we should be. Updating them and how we can update them to better protect existing residents due to development and increases in impervious cover and so forth. So that is a 2nd step that we have identified that there is a need that we want to take a good look at our development regulations. Because of course we do want to continue to grow and develop, but we want to do so in a safe and sustainable manner. I don't see any other hands raised or questions in the chat. So if there's anybody else. In the group that have a question. Go ahead. I am in the Trinity Boulevard area and they're redoing all of our roads. Has there been a study done when they raise the roads 20 feet up? Were all that water is going to go out and what was that thought about? Well, I'll take part of that. I know that there are engineering plans for elevating the road up there because that road floods. East and west of precinct line that intersection. There's there's a serious flooding problems on Trinity Boulevard. So the primary area that's getting elevated is west of precinct line. And so there have been looks at how that drainage is going to be managed to get from 1 side of the road to the other because it all generally drains to the south down towards the Trinity. And so they're going to have to manage water off of the road and then also passing water from north to south as it goes down through that area. So when that road is elevated, that's all going to be managed by the current standards that are for those again larger than 1 acre type project. So it'll be a large capital project that's looking at just that kind of thing. And it's going to, you know, it'll handle the water that's designed to handle it and not to create an impediment as you might be concerned with out there. I don't know if that's exactly what you're getting at, but I know that I've spoken with other folks that have concerns with water getting backed up out that way. Yeah, I'm worried about it backing up into my house. I'm on the north side. So that's good that it should drains out. But, you know, you never know. Right. And there's, there's a lot of, there's that big pond that's to the, to the west there. That's kind of it functions somewhat as a detention area. Because it's, you know, it has a big series of pipes that are going to be installed under the new roadway that will carry more water than is in there now. There's just tiny old pipes that are in part of the basically a county road type section that's out there. It's not, it wasn't ever designed to carry all the water that could come to it. But it's going to be upsized to manage that much better in the future. Thank you. Thank you. And if you have specific questions about like your specific property and, you know, potential project impacts, you can feel free to email us and we'll, we can put an email in the chat at floodplain at Fort worth Texas dot gov and we're happy to kind of talk to you about your specific area and more detail if you'd like. Thank you. And so, Haley has a question. I'm assuming Haley Samson, who we've been communicating with is asking the question. Is there a timeline for how the city plans to study cumulative impact of development and Haley, I know that we've gone back and forth and we thank you for participating in this meeting to learn more and it is the thing that we'll be doing next. We've been working on it, but we've been working intensely on this project. So I'm going to let Jennifer and Claire kind of answer your time frame question. That's a great question. As Jennifer mentioned, the cumulative impact is a new initiative that we're really kicking off now. We completed a couple of case studies to basically verify the impacts that the increased impervious cover and loss of flood storage along natural streams. We felt like there were potential impacts from that and we had these case studies completed to put numbers to the types and level of potential impact on those two case study areas. So we're going to be expanding how we deal with those types of impacts by basically creating another stakeholder group to consider how we can deal with those types of situations citywide in the future. It's not going to be a cookie cutter solution that's one solution that's all parts of town. We're going to have to look kind of more in detail at different parts of town that can respond in different ways. But the stakeholders are going to be the ones that help inform us how to do that. And so that'll be starting by the first part of the year, January timeframe. We're looking at having the stakeholder group starting to really participate and work with our city staff members to really understand how we can deal with increases in impervious cover. Everything from, you know, do we want to have like onsite detention for these areas or do we want to prohibit increased impervious cover? There's going to be a wide range of things that we look at that are potential solutions for those types of things. And then also looking at the lost flood storage for basically filling in flood plains in different parts of town. So we want to understand both of those and that stakeholder group will be starting to function in the January timeframe. And we hope to be hopefully bringing back some sort of results that we can take to the council as recommendations for either engineering standard or zoning classification type revisions by probably the middle of the year. Hailey, did that answer your question? Well, enough. I know we're going to be talking with you afterwards. But it's not not otherwise. Sondine is asking the question why is water quality protection within runoff encouraged quote, but not mandatory in the city of Fort Worth. I guess I've got maybe part of the answer to that. I think Jennifer probably has some more details, but we really look at stormwater quality in two different departments with the environmental department taking the lead on really looking in the details of water quality where we are more looking at how to improve water quality without necessarily quantifying it so much. We look at ways to deal with water quality from a construction perspective and how can we have lower impacts from development and the green infrastructure that you might have heard about ways to deal with water quality that kind of collects trash and sediment before it enters the storm drain system. Our engine, our environmental folks really look more at the water that's in the system itself as it reaches into the other water bodies of the city. And I don't know if you got anything else to add to that Jennifer, but we've both been in those conversations with environmental about this topic. Right. So I will mention to my understanding when this water utility was started in 2006, which I wasn't here in 2006. But when it was and we put together the development regulations that we have today, which have been updated since 2006 that there was discussion about requiring water quality. Water quality measures for all developments. And I guess at that point in time it was decided that it would be encouraged, but it would not be mandatory. And so at this time we don't have the mandatory requirements for final developments. Of course, for developments that are in progress, they do have to have best management practices to control the runoff with in terms of the erosion or the sediment sedimentations, you know, putting those inlet protectors and so forth. I'm trying to prevent the runoff in the erosion, the sediment from leaving their site during construction practices. So we do have those for construction. And then in addition specifically the Terrent Regional Water District has specific water quality requirements right along the Trinity River for developments that are out falling pretty much directly into the Trinity River. But those are specifically for the water district, their requirements. John, did that answer your question about specifically the construction runoff perspective? So I'm looking at, I'm looking at her follow up. It says I'm talking about from a construction runoff perspective. And so, so we do have construction water quality best management practices that are required during the construction process. And we can, we can call and talk to you. I know, Miss Dean that Steven's been talking with y'all and so we can follow up if you have more specific questions about our current regulations. And then we have another question in the chat from Miss Mary, which is why doesn't the city consider slowing down development until you have the infrastructure to support it. So to me, I would say that goes back into, we've got, we've got good development criteria and we right now at this time, I'm kind of scrolling back up in that chat too. And I see that there's 1, will the city start taking volume into consideration now that the city knows it's a problem by not taking it into consideration. And so, so right now we can't, we don't have the regulatory means to make developers do something different about volume. We have to have that pass through city council to require that. But we do know, based of our recent cumulative impacts evaluation that there can be impacts. And that's why we're forming the stakeholder group that Claire discussed a few minutes ago because we want to take a detailed look at the issues. And what could be done to mitigate those through through development regulations. And if we come up with the changes, those would have to go to city council for approval. Is there any further questions? I'm not seeing any more in the chat or anybody else with the hand up. Leon no questions here. Just a thanks for the meeting. Mary says that didn't really answer her question though. Sorry, I'm next one here. Let me go back. Don Dean is asking. Sorry. Don missed that. I was scrolling through trying to get everybody as well. So she says that don't you regulate. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. Don Dean is asking, but don't you regulate and enforce. TCEQ regulation. And so, so I would say that we do, we do have regulations during the construction process. And those are governed and enforced by our code compliance department. And so water works closely with code compliance if there are issues and we go out and work, of course, with the developers, because our first thing is we want them to fix the issue and bring it into compliance. So we try to work very closely so they bring those issues into compliance as quickly as possible. And Stephen added some additional detail in the chat about that. So it says, so Stephen says a construction runoff quality and TCEQ items fall under the stormwater pollution prevention plan and code compliance department. So that's a good point about the stormwater pollution prevention plan. I think if you see problems with, with some BMPs not functioning, like if the distilled fences down or if the, you know, there's a bunch of sediment getting washed out in the street, that's all something that you can call code enforcement about. And they'll come check it out pretty quickly. So I know that they are very active about getting out in the field to try to understand those problems and get them rectified as soon as possible. And so, Don, in terms of your comment here about, you cannot make a developer or I said, you can't make a developer comply. So I wasn't saying with regard to the stormwater pollution prevention plan. So our, our specific requirements, we can require developers to comply with them. I was talking about the whole cumulative impacts of development in terms of the volume of stormwater runoff from development. So right now, if we don't have regulations that control how the volume is or control the amount of volume runoff, we can't require developers to do anything different than our regulations. But we do have regulations regarding construction, best management practices that are in the stormwater pollution prevention plan, as Stephen mentioned. And Mary has added a follow-up comment in the chat. Jennifer, you probably best suited to answer that. So, yes, so Miss Keller says we've been seeing problems since 2018 with no response from the city until a recent hire of Heather Berryman. So, so, yeah, as mentioned, we do work closely with code environmental and Heather is in the code department. So stormwater does work closely with her on any issues that arise. Questions or any other questions in the chat from anybody. I just wanted to, again, point out that the meeting is being recorded and we'll be posting the meeting on our webpage for this topic. I did post that earlier, but let me go ahead and copy and paste it again. So you can find that webpage. All of the link that Claire did a demo of are also on that page. And there's additional information on that page as well. So, so I wanted to follow up on Mary. Last comment here. Can y'all recommend slowing down development? So, so the council members are aware of the gap in our regulations and that we are going to be looking into the cumulative impacts topic in more detail. We did have a recent presentation to our mobility infrastructure and transportation committee, as well as an informal report about about this and that we would be looking into it. Additionally, we're meeting with all the council members we meet with them every fall and we talk about a wide range of topics, stormwater included. And we're mentioning the cumulative impacts of development findings and the upcoming stakeholder meetings in those meetings as well. So ultimately it's up to city council, whether or not they want to slow down development, but we have made an effort to make them very aware of the issue and the importance that we are looking at our development. Regulations because of this and we can get you a copy of the report. I have your email. So we'll get it sent to you. As well as the informal report that we gave to council, which is a much easier read. I think that's it. Well, thank you all for joining us. I really appreciate it. I'll stop sharing and that's all we've got then. All right. Well, thank you all. Good night. Thank you so much, Claire for presenting. Yep. Thanks everybody. Thank you.