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So they put the V in front of it to make sure what was important was the TikTok. I didn't think it was that overrated, but. Sorry to any Ohio State fans, but not that sorry. Speaking of Ohio State fans, we got Jay Wall in here. What's up, Jay Wall? Welcome in. And Joey's handing out money. So if you need $5, looks like Joey's got you. I'm guessing this is Chosen Rose in here. Says hello. What's up? Looks like a new handle, though. New handle who dis? New handle who dis? Jay Wall says I'm crying at the moment because the Eagles lost. And she probably saw it. Man, Jay, well, I believe I heard you say during the game that Eagles are the best team in the NFL. Tough loss for the best team. What's up, Maria? Welcome in. She is recap ready and ready to kick John Luke's ass in Scott Fishbowl, if I'm not mistaken. Why you got to bring that up? Whoa. Nobody said nothing about that. Why am I? I did not know that. I am very happy. That's the case. We got Kevin here saying Bert up. What's up, Kev? What up, Kev? Oh, geez. Been there from the beginning. Just an extra special shout out for Kev this week. We love you, man. And we got you brought in here previewing one of the things we're going to be talking about today. Who knew Zach, Zach, Zeke, and the Dallas defense and friends with Lay and Egg today absolutely killed them. Me too, man. He says Urban has arrived. They're going to the Super Bowl. Urban has arrived. Yeah, Super Bowl. Super Bowl bound, Jags. Yo, if the Jaguars can win all these games by only scoring nine points, then you might be right. Josh, I like that. If the Jags win the rest of their games, they will win the Super Bowl probably. They just have to win the rest of them, every single one. They're going to have a hard scene now. Yep, yep. Love you too, Maria. Love you too. Also, we got something new in here. In case anyone wanted to know, the Jags are leading the Magic 52 to 50 at the end of the second quarter for everyone who's watching the NBA sports. Guys, the first thing we're going to do today is we are going to jump into the Sunday night preview. We've got the Tennessee Titans going up against the Los Angeles Rams. And what I wanted to start with is I wanted each of us to give our prediction for this game. So, Jay, we're going to start with you. Final score, who's the winner of the Tennessee Titans Los Angeles Rams game tonight? I hate to say it because I have a lot of shares of AJ Brown, but I think the Rams are going to destroy the Titans. I think they're going to struggle without Derek Henry. If I'm given a final score, I'm going to go 3417 Rams. 3417 Rams from Jay. Josh, what about you? I'm close to you, Jay. I think it will be a little bit closer than you think. But, yeah, I'm definitely taking the Rams here. I'll say 30, 36, 36 to 24. 36, 24. So we've got some high-scoring game prediction so far. Jayle, what about you? Yeah, I'm also going to take the Rams. But I think Titans are going to cover the spread. I'm going to go with, oh, OK, I'm going to go with... I had to think about it there, didn't you? Yeah, I did. I'm going to go with 35, 30. OK, and... I'll project a high-scoring game here. Watch it be like 10 to 7. Titans win. I'm thrown off a little bit by the Titans because I feel like they're the team, one of the teams that have been confusing this year with some of their outcomes. But I think the Rams are going to come out on top. This is a Super Bowl contending team in the Los Angeles Rams. Seven and a half point favorites, by the way. I'll say it's a little bit closer and a little bit lower scoring. I'll go with 24, 17 Rams. Rams coming out on top 24, 17. So all of us picked the Rams. The Twins of Titans are probably going to end up winning this game. And Josh, I know there's a player on the Titans that you are quite excited about this week with the news about Derek Henry going down. So I just want you to tell us a little bit about what gives you the confidence in Jeremy McNichols this week. Oh, I am very confident in Jeremy McNichols. I still think he's going to be a top 20 PPR running back this week. I just expect the Titans to use him. He's going to be involved in the passing game. They're going to have to pass more than they have in the past. Past. But I don't think Adrian Peterson is the answer. He's going to get carries. Don't get me wrong, but Jeremy McNichols is going to be involved in a lot of different facets of the game, including running in the ball. I could see him get more carries than Adrian Peterson. And if that's the case, McNichols is going to have a good game. Yeah, I tend to agree with you, Josh. I am on the Jeremy McNichols side if I have to start one of those two bags. Jailer J, do either of you have interest in Adrian Peterson over Jeremy McNichols this week in fantasy? No, no, not at all. I think Josh laid out perfect. Let's go, Jeremy McNichols. And then on the other side of the ball, I know there's a player I wanted to highlight. He was one of my favorite starts this week. It is a bit of a boomer bust kind of play. But Van Jefferson for the Los Angeles Rams has been getting more and more involved in this offense. He's approaching kind of the same territory as Robert Woods whenever it comes to targets the past couple of games. I think this is a Van Jefferson week. I think he breaks a long touchdown. We're going to see a deep target connect with him. I think he's a great boomer bust kind of play from this game and this Rams offense. I love Van Jefferson this week. Love it, Simon. Don't win those lineups. Great game, that's playing my mind. Anything else from this game, guys, that you want to highlight before we move on to the New England versus Carolina game. Let's get New England, Carolina game. You said it right. I practiced so much today to not say New England. I'm not even kidding. I honestly miss it a little bit. New England, New England, New England. The show is young, New England, New England. It's going to come out before the end of the game. Yeah, before the end of the game, we'll get at least one New England. But this is the first game we're going to be talking about today, the New England versus Carolina Panthers. New England coming out on top 24 to six. Say hello. Hi, Carly. That's my niece, Carly. Hey, Carly, thanks for doing it. Hey, what's up, Carly? What up, Carly? Bradenton said this week was so weird. Lots of duds, so many duds. Just a bizarre week for fantasy. The 1 p.m. slate was broken. I don't know if it was the time change or what was going on, but there was something weird going on at 1 p.m. that made all these games just a little funky. A little funky. At least the Ravens came out on top. Yeah, so with the New England versus the Carolina Panthers game, everybody was excited. Christian McCaffrey came back this week and he did what Christian McCaffrey does. Over 100 combined yards, 52 rushing yards, four catches, 54 reception yards. Sam Darnall, the honeymoon is over. He was absolutely abysmal. Three interceptions, no touchdowns, only 172 passing yards, which led to DJ Moore not being very good either. He actually, he got banged up. I don't know if he came back into the game, but it was not pretty. So we'll start there, J.L. I know here recently you've talked about DJ Moore as a by-low. Are you still saying that DJ Moore is a by-low and is there anybody other than Christian McCaffrey that you are comfortable starting for the Panthers? I mean, we're still seeing DJ Moore get the bulk of the targets here. He got, let's see, seven targets today. That was the highest on this team, apart from Christian McCaffrey coming back, but as far as wide receivers goes, highest on the team. But I've been saying at the last couple of weeks, he's still limited by his offense because even though he has one of the highest target shares in the entire league amongst all wide receivers, his offense is just not moving. So the quality of the targets just isn't quite there. I mean, look at Sam Darnall's stats, that sums it up for you. You're not gonna have a lot of wide receiver production when Sam Darnall is throwing for 172 yards, no touchdowns and three interceptions. Yeah, three interceptions. Do you guys think this is the standard we should expect from Sam Darnall going forward though? He has supported DJ Moore finding fantasy success in other games this season. I know it's been rough sledding for him recently, but is this the standard with which you're expecting Sam Darnall to play the rest of season or do you think there's better games ahead? Is this offense very matchup dependent or is this just a low-powered offense? I mean, certainly, I think the answer is gonna be a little bit of all of that, right? It's like his offensive line has been poor. The whole season that hasn't changed. And the center got hurt today as well. So it's not any better yet, exactly. So I don't think Sam Darnall is one of those quarterbacks that can really transcend that 4-0 line play. He can't really put this team on his back. I thought he might be able to coming into the season. He looks pretty good. I thought he might be able to make stuff work, but he's just, he's kind of falling off. He did not look good today. Yeah, I think JL's right. I think it's gonna be somewhere in the middle that may be the boring answer, but I don't think it's gonna be these extremes. I think DJ Moore is somebody who you're plugging in your lineup every week. You're really only excited to play when it's good matchups. And Christian McCaffrey, he proved, if he's on the field, even with limited snaps, he's the guy that you're starting. In my mind, DJ Moore and Christian McCaffrey are must starts every week going forward still. But like you said, J, I don't want to play anyone else on this offense. Yeah, absolutely. Well, looking at the New England side, there really wasn't a whole lot notable on the offense. Mack Jones did not look that great. 139 yards of touchdown, interception and a fumble loss. He did not look very good. Josh, your boy, Damian Harris did get the touchdown, but not a whole lot else. 30 yards on the ground, he did get a target, but the Rhino as our new friend, she in from Sleep and Wire likes to call home. Remandry Stevenson had a soft 10 carries, 62 yards. He did get two catches for 44 yards. Josh, would you say that they are gonna let the Rhino run wild or is this just a one-off thing? No, so Damian Harris, both Damian Harris and Remandry Stevenson got a little banged up in this game. Going forward, Damian Harris is the lead back for the Patriots. I'm not concerned about that, but it does give me a little bit of confidence in Stevenson if something were to happen to Damian Harris. If he was not gonna be in the lineup for whatever reason, I do believe Remandry Stevenson would be the leading ball carrier for the Patriots, and he would be successful. He looks good out there. So I don't think this is something where I'm telling you to go pick him up. You need to have him in your lineup or anything like that. Damian Harris is the lead back while he's healthy still. And he looks good when he gets the ball too, so. So especially with five weeks, I'll ask both you guys this question. Are you comfortable starting Remandry Stevenson as a flex? Not when Damian Harris is healthy. And the wide receivers really didn't do much. Hunter Henry did catch a touchdown for the tight end position, but that's really about it. The way Mac Jones looked, there really just was not a whole lot to go around. The running backs really got some pretty solid work. Brandon Bolden got some catches. Mind you, Stevenson got some catches. So it's offensively, this was a very ugly game. Not a whole lot of fantasy production from anybody. Unless you started the New England defense, you weren't thrilled with any of the performances. It seemed like every other player either met expectations. Know what I mean? Remandry Stevenson, you would have been perfectly happy starting him. Christian McCaffery, not thrilled, but perfectly fine starting him. But outside of that, just disappointment across the board. Disappointment. Mac Jones, what are you doing? Guys, anything else? Anything else on this game before we move on to the Buffalo Bills versus Jacksonville Jaguars? No, I think I got it. The game of the day. As everyone expected, the Jacksonville Jaguars came out with a win beating the Bills nine to six, nine to six in this game, just like we all thought, Urban Meyers welcome party. Guys, guys, the Bills were favorited, 15 and a half points. 15 and a half points, my God. 15 and a half points. That is wild. I barely scored that much total. I don't know, you didn't. Wait, what am I talking about? There was only 15 points. What happened in this game? I mean, why did Josh Allen, what was going on with Josh Allen? I know Zach Moss, he suffered a concussion throughout the game, so I know Devon Singletary took over. We had some decent fantasy production out of these wide receivers. Simon, what do you think about Josh Allen's performance this week? It was bad. I don't know what else to say about it, besides it was bad. We know he's a good quarterback, right? We know he can put together decent games, and he's done it against good defenses. It's not like he hasn't faced players like defensive Josh Allen before. Know what I mean? First of all, they loved that storyline. The number of times they said Josh Allen and Josh Allen was a little bit too high. But I'm not worried about Josh Allen going forward. This was a horrible game. This doesn't change anything about his fantasy outlook. He's still a top three quarterback in fantasy rest of season. It's just an awful game. These are games that happen from time to time. I really don't know too much else what caused this steep decline in one game. I'd say it's the turnovers. I mean, two interceptions, one bumble by Josh Allen. It's enough to kill some momentum. And he didn't score any touchdowns. That's why no one had any blow-up games whatsoever. There was no touchdowns in this game, you know? Right, we saw it. I don't know if there's a lot to take away from this. This is not the norm going forward. The Buffalo offense is still a great offense. Yeah, I completely agree. Well, when we did see, you know, so there was some goodness still in this game. Spondiggs came out 14 and a half points in PPR formats. He had six receptions on eight targets and 85 yards. And then second, receiving leader in this. Actually, all three receivers on this team, Spondiggs, Colbeasley, and Emmanuel Sanders scored over 10 points this week. I know a lot of people were worried about Spondiggs. Jay, is this signifying that we can expect Spondiggs to kind of return to form and return on that value that we all, for where we all drafted him or his price? Yeah, I still like Spondiggs long term now. I'm not necessarily sure if he's ever going to get back to the top five production that everybody was thinking that was going to be coming into the season. But it's possible. But just this all. Oh, you're muted. There we go. Accidentally, unplugged my mic there. But yeah, I do think that he is going to be a wide receiver one the rest of the season. All three of these guys, I think, are wide receivers that you can play. Colbeasley's been pretty solid. Emmanuel Sanders has been off and on. But he's made some pretty impressive catches. I think that you can log in. Stefan Diggs. Yeah, thanks, Ryan. Stefan Diggs is locked in wide receiver one. And then the other guys I think are solid wide receiver threes with some bi-week replacement value, flex plays, things like that. Yeah, Josh, where do you think Spondiggs ends the season? Like in terms of wide receiver rank? I mean, right now, in a half point PPR, he's what, 23rd wide receiver? Yeah, around there, 22, 123. I think people have to realize how close Colbeasley and Emmanuel Sanders are to Stefan Diggs and fantasy points. This offense is not locking on to Stefan Diggs. Josh Allen does not feel like he needs to make him the wide receiver that does everything. The ball's sped around. It's much like the Cardinals offense. So going forward, I don't know if I can even, I can't put him in the top 10. Yeah, I just can't. I think that's fair. Yeah, just to break down their targets here, there's not a massive gap, like we see on the Packers, for instance. Stefan Diggs on the season is 24.1% of the targets. Colbeasley, 21.8% of the targets, and Emmanuel Sanders, 16.6% over the season. Now, that's shifted a little bit over the last three games. We've seen Colbeasley get a ton more targets. He's shot up to 27.9% of the target share in just the last three games. So that could be affecting it. But I think Stefan Diggs is still a guy here on the scene. You still want to have him in your lineup every week. I think he'll finish within the top 20. But he's not there yet. He's not there right now. Yeah. Yeah, on the other side of the ball, outside of Dan Arnold, he really didn't have a single. There wasn't a single Jacksonville Jaguars player who scored more than 6.8 PPR fantasy points, which is just wild, not even Trevor Lawrence. I know it's a tough matchup for wide receivers going against Buffalo. Simon, can we take anything away from this game on the Jacksonville side? Dan Arnold is a streamable tight end. And outside of that, I don't know if there's much else to take from this. He's not an every week start, but in a good matchup, you can plug in Dan Arnold. He's involved in this matchup. Trevor Lawrence is still a rookie quarterback on a very bad offense that you don't want to trust in fantasy. Because of that, the receiving options are very difficult to trust as well. Yeah, that tight end is just such a hellscape that Dan Arnold, with the volume that he's getting, is enough to plug in as a streamer. Yeah, so Dan Arnold finished the game with four receptions on seven targets at 60 yards. He gave him 10 PPR fantasy points. Jay, how do you feel about Dan Arnold going forward? Can you trust him, or is he just sort of emergency start streamer? I'd say a little bit better than an emergency start, but he's not somebody that I would necessarily be comfortable with every. I think Simon said it perfectly. In the right matchup, I think he's somebody you can plug in. He's just another one of that group of guys that you can expect three to five catches, 50 to 60 yards. And if he catches a touchdown, you've got a great week. So I don't see a super high upside, but I think for the tight end position, he's got a decent floor. Yeah, absolutely. We also had Carlos Hyde with 21 rushing attempts, which is at the time, I checked this, I actually haven't checked. James Conner might have beaten this at this point, but tied for the most rushing attempts in week nine so far, along with Melvin Gordon and Devonte Booker. And boy, did he do a lot with them. Yeah, despite that, he really only met at 6.3 PPR fantasy points, 6.3 PPR fantasy points with 21 attempts. Josh, what do we do with Carl? Like, are you comfortable starting Carlos Hyde with James Robinson out? Look, we gotta realize it's the Buffalo defense. We know this is a great defense. Running backs haven't done a ton against them so far this year. So honestly, going forward, if James Robinson's not in the lineup, I still actually feel comfortable putting Carlos Hyde out there. I feel very comfortable actually. However, this goes to show, I think how valuable James Robinson also is. He's just a much better running back than Carlos Hyde is at this point in their career. He can catch passes. So I think James Robinson is just a quality running back. Yeah, I'm with you, Josh. I will fully admit I was completely wrong on James Robinson. He was somebody who I faded hard in the off season. I was wrong. It happens and if you're able to buy low, let me look at his, actually, I just traded for him in one league. He's got a really enticing playoff schedule. Let me pull that up real quick. And faces the... I know you can start, Dan Arnold. He's streamable, but outside of that, James Robinson's the guy. He's the guy here, yeah. The only one, really, at this point. Week 14 has got a tough matchup against Tennessee, but week 15, he plays the Houston Texans. He'll give up the 10th most points to running backs and the championship week, James Robinson plays the Jets who give up the most fantasy points to running backs. Yee-haw! Somebody might be wanting to... Targeting and trade talks. Absolutely, Ian. Okay, guys, I think that's it for this game. We're gonna move on to our next game, which is the Atlanta Falcons versus the New Orleans Saints. Atlanta Falcons versus the New Orleans Saints. Atlanta came out on top in this game 27 to 25. And this game was a little bit odd from an injury perspective. These teams look a little different from a fantasy player perspective than what we started the season with. Calvin Ridley out for the Falcons and James Winston out for the New Orleans Saints. We will start on the Atlanta side of this ball. And with Calvin Ridley out, he's left a little bit of a vacuum at receiver that I think we're still trying to figure out how that's going to be filled. So last week, it was Tajay Sharpe who received the majority of the targets. This week, Russell Gage got eight targets, seven receptions for 64 yards. He was the highest targeted player on this team. So my first question going forward, before we get to the highest scoring receiver on Atlanta this week, we'll talk about him. Russell Gage or Tajay Sharpe, rest of season, Jay, between those two players, which one do you trust more? Flipcoin. Honestly, I think all the wide receivers, I think you're just guessing. If I had to pick somebody, I'd probably lean Russell Gage, just because we've seen him do it for stretches. You know, he played pretty well last year. But with Calvin Ridley not in the lineup, the only guy I trust in the passing game is Kyle Pitts. Other than that, I think it's going to be, just like we've seen, you know, it's you're going to see somebody come out of nowhere every week, you're not going to be able to predict which one and it's basically just the flip of a coin. Yeah. And you brought up Kyle Pitts. He had three receptions. Or excuse me, he had three receptions for 62 yards, but he was more involved than that stat line looks like. He had seven targets in this game as well. This looks a lot like the first couple of weeks we saw from Kyle Pitts while he was getting used to this offense where he was being heavily targeted, but the fantasy points weren't just lining up. John Luke, do you have concerns about Kyle Pitts for the rest of season with Calvin Ridley out? Because he's going to be the primary focus for the opposing defense now that he's, I think it's safe to say he's the alpha receiver on this team as the tight end. Yeah, absolutely. I do think Calvin Ridley being out does limit Kyle Pitts because they can hyper focus him. But with that being said, I'm not fading him. I mean, he's in the last three games, 21.9% target share, which is the most on this team. Get this. All right. Number one, right? Last three games. Put it in number two, third and third target share. Number three, Russell Gage, 14.6%. Very interesting to me. I wasn't expecting that. And then Calvin Ridley, just from his one game that he played at the last three, then Hayden Hurst and Tajid Sharpe right after that. So Kyle Pitts is still the guy here. And I would rather, you know, if you're going to make an argument for Hawkinson right all season, I think you got to make that same argument for Pitts. That's a great parallel jail. People were saying, who the hell else are they going to throw the ball to with Hawkinson there? Atlanta, who the hell else are they going to throw the ball to? It's Russell Gage, Taze Sharpen and Zacchaeus in that offense as well, which brings up my next question. So we had Olamide Zacchaeus go for three targets, three receptions, two touchdowns, 58 yards today. Josh, is there anything to be taken from this performance? He wasn't very involved from like a target share percentage. You only have three targets, but he turned those into three catches and two touchdowns. Is this a player that has flex value or like a GPP value going forward where you could throw them an attorney lineup or is this just a flukey game? I think it's a little flukey. I think it's a little flukey personally. I would rather have Russell Gage, obviously Cordial Patterson's the wide receiver slash running back to own in this offense right now. But yeah, I think it's flukey. I do not trust his performance whatsoever. Yep, neither do I. Then in the rushing game for the Falcons, there was no rushing game for the Falcons. They did very, very little on the ground this game. What was it Cordial Patterson with 10 yards? Mike Davis with 13 yards, both on nine carries. It was abysmal, but Cordial Patterson did it again through the receiving work. Six receptions for 126 receiving yards. That's a, he's an every week start. I know we've said it week in week out now, but you cannot bench Cordial Patterson. Jay, you were not here last week. I can't remember if we played this game with Cordial, but we're going to play it with you right now. Hell no. Cordial Patterson is a top blank running back rest of season. Throw everything we thought pre-season out of the window. He is the top blank running back rest of season. I gotta say top 15 honestly, I mean, with the amount of volume he's getting in the passing game, you have to. I mean, nobody has done it as consistently as he has. Yeah, I'm going to go top 15. I can't put him, I can't put him as a RV one there. Why does he want to call him, but yeah, I gotta say top 15. I was going to ask if Josh or Jail, if either of you would answer that question in the RB one category, a top 12 kind of guy rest of season. No, not in the top 12, but he's right there. Jail looks like he wants to. Jail looks like he wants to. I'm just saying there's a possibility. There absolutely is a possibility for a lot of things. He's the RB eight. He's in the top 12 right now. So I don't think it's absurd for him to land in the top 12. I don't think he, I think he'll probably the most realistic outcome here is he's going to land just outside the top 12, but it's happening kind of like I just said. Sure, sure, if you want to be technical. Okay, guys, we're going to move over to the new Orleans side of this ball. I'll click before you roll on silent. If anybody's holding on to Mike Davis, drop him. Like there, there's no reason. If he's still on your roster, just drop him. There's, it's, it's not happening. The only reason he had value earlier in the season, he was getting some catches and he's not getting that anymore. Can I ask the question actually too? It's for Jail a little bit. James Robinson or Cordial Patterson. Oh my God. That's a good question. Because you're the highest. I think that's like the line almost. That's a good point. I'm making a tough point. It's not easy on you, man. James Robinson, I know he's injured. So, you know, you got to, I don't know what he was prior to injury. RB 13. He's playing next week, which is so. He was RB 13, yeah, going into this week, PBR leagues. Oh God, I would probably, I think I would take, I don't know. I don't know. I can't answer this question. Here's what I. I love this. I love it. I love it. I'm happy to answer this question. I think the right answer is Patterson. I think I would take Robinson. I don't know if I have the guts to call, to take that shot because Robinson is so safe. I feel like down the stretch as long as he's healthy. So I will take that a, what I do as an RB one down the stretch, but I think there's a very real chance Patterson outscores him the rest of the season. James. Ridley out. I'm going Patterson. I'm going Patterson. In PBR, PBR formats, I will clarify too. Yeah. Because Patterson has lived off the receiving work and yeah, compared to. So Jail, do you want to do some sort of a bet rest of season from this point on? No, I do not. Because I think these guys could finish exactly next to each other. Let's do it. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Also a quick update. The Kansas City Chiefs did just beat the Green Bay Packers. That game has just ended. Chiefs are the winners. We're going to move on to the new Orleans side of this ball. So as we know, James Winston went out with an injury and while a lot of us expected, Taysum Hill to come in as the starter, Trevor Simeon was named the starter of this team. Taysum Hill must have gotten in trouble with Sean Payton or something and he put him in timeout. So we will see what happens going forward. But my first question and Jail, I'll come to you for this one first. Trevor Simeon put up a 25 for 41, 249 yards, two touchdowns and one fumble in this game. Is that enough to keep the starting job going into next week? Or do you view a chance that Taysum Hill is named the starter? I think there's absolutely a chance that Taysum Hill gets named the starter. I think he would have been the starter if he hadn't been coming off this pretty major injury. This head injury, brain injury that he suffered during the Washington game earlier in the season. And on top of that, Trevor Simeon beat the Bucks which no one was really expecting. So I think that they wanted to roll with Trevor Simeon and he did all right. But he did all right against a very weak Atlanta defense that most quarterbacks have just been absolutely demolishing all season. So I think it might be enough for him to get the starting job but I think that's gonna be dependent on one, Taysum Hill's health. And I think this next game is gonna be a lot harder for Trevor Simeon. Ryan in here saying that he thinks Trevor Simeon will keep the start. Jay, what do you think on this one? Do you think Trevor Simeon's gonna keep the starting job? Well, I really hate to agree with Ryan on anything, but I actually do agree with him on this. I think our good friend Jeff Bell made a really good point the other day, sent out a tweet, said, what's the difference in Trevor Simeon now and Drew Brees last year? Like obviously Drew Brees is a lot better quarterback career-wise, but- Mind-wise. Yeah, but I mean, he had a noodle arm. I think that Trevor Simeon can do what he did for them last year. Jay, the only thing I will say about Taysum Hill is if the health was such a concern, I don't think they would have played him this week at all. He did play. So it was a concussion, right, that he had two weeks ago. So if it was a different injury, that might be the case, but with such a concentration on brain injuries and stuff like that, if there was any concern, I don't think they would have played him at all. So I think Trevor Simeon did just enough to get another start. Do I think he's gonna be the starter all year? No, but I do think he's at least gonna have another start. At least one, you know, we'll see how it goes next week. I'm right there with you, Jay. I think Trevor Simeon will start next week, but I do not expect him to be the starter rest of season. I think we see some Taysum Hill starts before the season is over. Sean Payton just loves that man too much. Sean Payton loves Sean Payton and thinking that he's the smartest guy in the entire NFL. Or what if this is one of those things where he just keeps telling Taysum like, no, you're only in the backup because Drew Brees is here. No, it's only because James is here. I promise. If James wasn't here, and now he's having to backtrack. Look at the contract that we gave you. Like, obviously, I love you. You know, it's fake, but you know. Guys, one other thing on the New Orleans side of this ball before we move on to our next game. Marquez Callaway had six targets, three receptions for 25 yards and a touchdown. A pretty good fantasy week from him. If you started him better than some of the other ones you have gotten in weeks past. Josh, with Simeon as the starter right now, do you think Marquez Callaway is a trustable fantasy option? Do you view him differently? Also, let me just throw an additional context. Michael Thomas is out the rest of the season now. We know that he will not be playing. So does that make you more interested in Marquez Callaway? No, no, he got 25 yards. He had three catches for 25 yards. I'm not, I think Deontay Harris had a better game getting eight targets, six catches and 52 yards. The touchdown obviously set Callaway ahead. Kenny Sills got, I mean, you got two catches for 30 yards and a touchdown. You know, that's just as good, I guess, right? Yeah, it's the same thing. I don't trust any of these options. The only person I want to start on the Saints offense right now is Camara. Camara. And boy, do I want to start him. Well, I got a question for you guys. If Odell Beckham-San's there, are you interested in OBJ? Yep. He wouldn't be on the waiver wire. Yeah, I would stash him. Marquez Callaway has had three receptions in each of the last three games. This is the first time he's scored more than guy. I want to go back to Jay's question. It's something in jail. You said you would stash him. If OBJ is on the Saints, I will start him. I know, as soon as he's in that line-up. I will start OBJ. I have to disagree there. I definitely think he's a stash. I picked him up in my home league. Definitely a stash. Starting, man, you need to, yeah. OBJ was a good route runner in Cleveland. He just didn't quite fit with the system. Him and Baker didn't get along. It's not like he's lost that. I'm not saying that at all. He ran successful routes, and I think he can find success in this offense. Trevor Simian. I know, but I think it's less about Baker and more about the Cleveland offense. Like Cleveland's offense is predicated upon very precise routes. OBJ runs a little bit more freeform routes. He's not the guy who's going to be exactly where the route plans. So what I mean, he sees what the field gives him and he gets open. The Cleveland offense is very precise, and I think it's because of the kind of quarterback Baker is he's less good at this kind of improvisation. I think the Saints offense does a little bit more of that. And OBJ could find success here. Allow me to clarify here. I'm not saying I wouldn't start him because the offense isn't, or that OBJ has anything to do really with OBJ's talent. It's that he's a wide receiver who's going to a new team. He's learning a new system, a new playbook mid-season. And the other aspect is that there's no one else to really take away the defensive focus here on the team, apart from Camara. And so I really think that they can just shut down, focus on OBJ and shut him down, despite how good a route runner he is. So those two things are the real main things that are keeping me from starting him, or like being like gung-ho about starting him right away. That is 100% fair. I don't disagree with you there. But I have a little bit more confidence in him as a player, I think, than maybe some others just from watching him. But I'm excited to see where he lands. Let's real quick predictions. Where do you think OBJ ends up? Josh? The Saints. JL? Yeah, I would have probably said the Raiders, but now that they signed to Sean Jackson, I might say the Saints. J? I think Dan Campbell is a madman, and he's going to use that number one overall waiver order. And I think he's going to wind up on the lines. You stole mine. I was going to say the lines as well. I think they're just going to say screw it. We'll eat the contract and sign them right there. So they have a number one receiver. Dan, that's the most Dan Campbell thing ever. You think they're like they actually still have hope on the season? I don't know. I think Dan Campbell is the type of guy that doesn't care. It just wouldn't matter. He just like screw it. I don't even want the first fix. He wants to win. There's hope every single week for the Lions. They don't need any long term hope, just short term hope. That's strategy. Guys, we're going to move on to our next game now. The next game we're talking about is the Minnesota Vikings versus the Baltimore Ravens. And I know we got a couple of people on here very excited to talk about this one. The Ravens pulled it out in overtime 34-31. And before we start talking about this one, Maria, I agree. Maria wants to see OBJ this time again. Me too. Me too. And what's up, Bam? Welcome in. Glad to have you here for this Sunday night recap. What up, Bam? Shout out to Micah Sicki, by the way. He had an OBJ kind of style catch. I don't know if you guys saw that one. That was sick though. It was awesome. I digress. We are coming to this Vikings-Ravens game and as a Ravens fan, I have had such an exciting season. I know we all have. This has been a roller coaster ride of emotions being a Ravens fan. But let's start with the Vikings side of the ball. The Vikings came into this game as 7-point underdogs. And they did cover the spread, but the Ravens did pull out the victory. Kirk Cousins, he had a good game, especially considering he only completed 17 passes. He had a fine fantasy game. Pretty much everyone on this offense performed more or less like you would expect. Now, on Devon Cook, he did not have the best fantasy game because he didn't score a touchdown, but he had 110 rushing yards. Justin Jefferson, only three catches, but he did score a touchdown. So he was a great receiver. Adam Thieland did have a disappointing game. Only two catches for seven yards. He did get the touchdown. Now, guys, I want to ask you, are you comfortable still with Adam Thieland in your lineup? I know I am personally. I want to come to Simon first with this one. Only two catches, but seven targets, Simon. How do you feel about Adam Thieland going forward in fantasy? Yeah, I mean, you said it in your question to me. Only two catches, but he had seven targets. He's still a critical part of this offense. And there's a reason we call him Adam Touchdown Thieland. People say his touchdown rate isn't maintainable, but you know what? It has been for a couple of seasons now. He's going to find the end zone again in future games. I have no issue plugging Adam Thieland in weekend out. Week in, week out. But just know, if he doesn't get that touchdown, there's a good chance you're a little bit disappointed in his fantasy week. As far as players go to bet on a touchdown for, Adam Thieland's a pretty good one to take that bet with. Absolutely. I mean, he only got six yards. But again, he made his fantasy game because he at least got a touchdown. Jay, do you kind of feel more or less the same way as Simon does here? Yeah, I think he hit the nail on the head. I was one that bought into the touchdown regression for Adam Thieland, and that was wrong. I'm definitely talking about it. A lot of mistakes I made this off-season. But Thieland was one of them. He's just somebody who I thought that he wasn't going to have that type of production. And he's having a good season. Not necessarily a great game, but you have to like the underlying numbers. Like you said, seven targets, especially in a game where Kirk Cousins only completed 17 passes. I think he's a rock solid wide receiver too. Some people are like, oh, wide receiver three, flex play, stuff like that. He's a perfect wide receiver too, a safe play. Do you have a high variance wide receiver too? Somebody's so low after this, I think he's a perfect target. Hey, Jay, let me ask you real fast. You got those targets up? You guys got those targets yours up? Because Tyler Conklin, he's been getting a lot of targets for a tight end. Now the problem is he only has one touchdown this year, and we know fantasy value for tight ends does come from touchdowns a lot of the time. But I love seeing these targets. Seven targets last two weeks. He's been consistently target throughout the season. What's his target share look like for the Vikings? So on the season, Tyler Conklin is third in this offense, 15.2% of the target share. In the last three games, he moves up to number two though, 23%. 23% of the target share, that's significant. Absolutely, absolutely. So I just want to throw his name out there because I think he's an option you can throw into your fantasy lineup every week with the landscape of tight ends. I'm not saying he's necessarily a top eight guy even, but after the top eight guys, it's a crapshoot. So Tyler Conklin, throw his name in there. You're able to start him every week just because of the targets. So quick question. Dan Arnold or Tyler Conklin? I'll go Conklin. I'll go Conklin as well. I would go Dan Arnold. Arnold. I think Arnold is with the room. I think I'm going to go Arnold as well. For me, I feel like just based on the offense, Conklin has a better chance at finding his way into the end zone any given week and for a tight end. In that range, that's probably what I'm looking for is a touchdown. So that's the same, but opposite, but also the same offense because I don't trust any of the wide receivers in Jacksonville as much as I love Visca. So I could see him having a more consistent role versus Conklin with Thielen, with Cook, with Jefferson. So let me ask you guys some trivia. Trivia question time. All right, over the last three games, who has a higher target share in their offense, their respective offense? Tyler Conklin or Dan Arnold? Conklin. Dan Arnold. Josh, what did you say? Conklin. So two Conklins and an Arnold? Two Conklins and an Arnold. Walkin' in a bar. Conklin wins with 23% compared to Dan Arnold's 21.5%. Now let me ask you this. I'm not sure if I ever heard it. Let me ask you this. Who has a higher target share in their respective offense in the last three games? Tyler Conklin or Kyle Pitts? Ooh. You just, what you told us, Kyle Pitts? I told you both. I told you one clue this way. Conklin. Oh, if I listened, I would know, but I don't listen to you at all. Okay. What did you say, Kyle Pitts? I'm going to go Pitts. Simon? Is this the reverse or the double or reverse? I'll go Conklin. It is Conklin. Yay. 23% compared to Kyle Pitts. This is 21.9%. I'll see you later. I'm out of here. As soon as Jay went Pitts, I knew the answer had to be Conklin. This was actually a really good game. I think it gave us a lot of context. It shows that Conklin is super involved in his offense. And if he was scoring touchdowns, people would be like, he has to be on your fantasy ride. You have to be starting him every week. That trend. That trend is very enticing. Yeah. Also, we got Daddy Fandal in here. What's up? Welcome and glad to have you watching. Absolutely. Welcome. On the Raven side of the ball in this game, Lamar Jackson, he went off. Good at football. He's very good at football. He did third two interceptions, but he had three touchdowns thrown, and he rushed for 120 yards. He tied the record, I believe, for the most 100-yard rushing games by a quarter of that much. 10th time in his career, I believe. I think it was 12. Yeah, that's it. Could be wrong. Could be wrong. Devante Freeman also had a great game. 13 carries, 79 yards. He caught two passes on three targets and had a touchdown himself. Levy on belt was actually very involved later in the game, scoring a touchdown. So I just want to tell you guys, I don't necessarily trust Devante Freeman myself, but I do think you can plug him in. I know people are out there struggling for running back jail. What do you think? Do you feel OK plugging Devante Freeman into your running back two slot? If I absolutely have to, yes. Trying to pull up the, you know what, looking at his last few games, yeah, I think he's a person who's viable running back to option. Yeah, I agree with you. Now, on the receiving end of things, Marquis Brown had a fantastic game. I love seeing. He didn't score a touchdown and he still had nine catches on 12 targets for 116 yards. I know a lot of people were expecting big things out of Devante Duvernay, and he looked good. I want to give a little bit of confidence there. That catch was really beautiful touchdown catch. He only had eight yards, all right, but he did have that touchdown. Jay, how do you feel about Devante Duvernay going forward? Touchdown or bust, you know? I think Bateman looked really good. Obviously, Marquis Brown is the wide receiver won in this offense. Still have Mark Andrews, so he's way down the line when it comes to targets in this offense. You know, he's it's super deep leagues. You know, if you need a flex play or something like that, you could do much worse, but he's not somebody that I'm excited to get in my line up whatsoever. I agree with you, Jay. I think Rashad Bateman's the number two wide receiver on that team, but still the third receiving option behind Mark Andrews and Marquis Brown. But really nothing else stood out too much. I know Mark Andrews didn't have a great game, but he had 10 targets. He only had 6.9 points in a half point PPR lead, but you're starting Mark Andrews every week. He agrees, Simon. Mark Andrews every week started still. Yeah, unless you have Travis Kelsey as well. And even then I would probably put Mark Andrews in my flex. There's very few rosters where you're not going to have Mark Andrews in your starting lineup. He's he's one of the few stud tight ends that you can you can plug in week in, week out. Who has more targets in the last three games? Oh, who has more targets in the last three games? Devonta Freeman or Devin DuVernay? Probably Devonta Freeman. Simon? I forgot to listen to the question. Who has more targets in the last three games? Devonta Freeman or Devin DuVernay? Or Tyler Coughlin. Devonta Freeman. Jay? DuVernay. I'm sorry, Jay. It's Devonta Freeman's 8th to Devin DuVernay's 6th. OK, everyone make take Jay to trivia night and whatever he says, put the opposite down. And you are going to absolutely kill it. He's batting zero today. We do have a question in here in Rose. The last minute call tie game opponent has Steelers defense. So we need to tie them. It's going to outscore the defense. Pat Friarmius or Tyler Higby? Never Higby. I'm with I'm with Jay. I will start Pat Friarmius here. I'll go Higby. I think Higby is the safer bet to get you what you need to beat the Steelers defense. Here's what I'm thinking. Now, you're likely going to the Steelers defense is probably going to put up around 10 points, right? Like if we say about. They're probably projected for like eight, if I guess. OK, eight points. I think of these two players, Tyler Higby is more likely to outscore Pat Friarmius. But Pat Friarmius is more likely to score more than eight fantasy points. So Higby has played eight weeks and he has in PPR. He only has two games where he scored. I mean, one of them one of them is eight point game and two of them are nine point games. So that's not saying a lot. So touchdowns haven't been there for him. I don't know. I love Pat Friarmius this week. I think Higby is just a safer option. And when we're talking about going into that instead defense, I think I lean Higby. Joey says Higby. So I just can't do it. And then he says the Bears give up less than seven points a game to tight end. So that is a great tidbit against the Pat Friarmius side of this jail. You said you were on the Higby side. I'm on the Higby side. Yep. Josh on the Higby side and Jay and I are on the Friarmius side. So chosen rows were split right down the middle. Pick who's the most handsome and go with their answer. Or who you trust the most. That doesn't work for us. The smartest. Oh yeah, Higby season, baby. Josh is a sexy one, so. Yeah. Pick who you think is the saddest and then go with their answers. And so then you'll go with the Jay answer because he's missed every trivia question so far. Anything else on this game before we go on to the Las Vegas Raiders versus New York Giants? Nope. That's pretty much it. That's pretty much it. Do it. Las Vegas Raiders with New York Giants and Jay, the Giants came out on top 23 to 16. I know that made you happy today. It does it though, because honestly, I'd rather. Let's not go there. Yeah, I was happy that they won the game. But I think I just don't want to do enough to keep Gettelman. But that's another story for another day. Daniel Jones did that with good. Only 110 passing yards. We'll have one touchdown. Evan Ingram, 14 rushing yards, a fumble loss. And in return, the receivers didn't do well. Like I said, Evan Ingram caught a touchdown. But Gulladay only had two catches. So we only had one catch. Simon, I'll start with you here. Is there any passcatcher on the Giants that you're interested in for the rest of the season? Cadiria Stoney. Even after this game, you're still pretty confident in them? Yep, it is a it's not a comfort thing. It's an upside thing in my eyes. I still like what we saw. If you've got room on your bench, I'm not picking up any of these players are starting them in like an excitement to start a Giants wide receiver, right? But if there's one wide receiver on this team that has upside to be a weekly starter, I think it's Cadiria Stoney. I don't know what the likelihood of that is. But he has that upside that I don't see in some of these other receivers here. So I have interest in rostering him and seeing what he turns into. The only thing that scares me is Jason Garrett. He's he's what's holding him back. They're not even using it just blows my mind. He had a couple of rushes, but other than that, JL Josh, anybody you agree with Simon on this? He liked Tony and that's about it. I don't feel comfortable starting anyone any pass catchers in this offense. But I do agree with Simon that I think Cadiria Stoney should be on your bench and you should be waiting and seeing. And I think Kenny Galladay is worth having on your bench as well. Yeah, if if if Galladay and Shepard are healthy, then I'm perfectly fine throwing them in your lineups. I think especially Shepard, we saw him getting tons of targets when he is healthy, but just he hasn't been. So story, his career, unfortunately. Yeah, yeah. But the the entire offense was the running game at Devonte Booker, although I didn't like how much they spent to sign him in this offseason. It's been a pretty decent sign. Get Saquon Barclay back in this line up. Exactly. He should be back next week. Ninety nine yards, two catches, 23 yards. So that's where I was going. I'm going to give you guys the tough question. Josh, you start with you and go down. Yeah, all right. Rest of season, Saquon Barclay is a what? What running back? What are you asking? Where he finishes or like rest of the season? Yeah, yeah, so that's the season. So from this point going forward, where does he kind of fit it? Where does he fall in line? I was with him this morning. So he's that Cordero Patterson line. I put him maybe right in line with Cordero Patterson, maybe slightly ahead. Take a step. What a crazy sentence. Can you imagine saying that at the beginning of the season? People would be like, what are you freaking talking about? Bro, you're you're insane. I just want to say as long as you have something to back it up, don't let anyone tell you your takes are stupid next off season. Don't let them bully you. Just link them to Cordero Patterson's fantasy page and say, huh, look at this. Just say, huh, just leave it there. Don't let it, it's the, huh, what's that? But I would take James Robinson ahead of Saquon Barclay. I hate that, I hate that that is, I hate that that is a totally reasonable take now. It really is. I would, I would probably, I would probably agree with Josh. I would put him probably just inside the top 12, which is where I put Cordero Patterson. All right, JL Cordero Patterson, Barclay rest of season. You did not want to answer that. Barclay, it's Barclay. It's close, it's close. It's crazy to say, it's crazy. Simon. I hate to be boring like these guys, but I think he's in that back end RB one category somewhere in like the 10 to 15 range as far as where he's going to be rest of season. And I'm with JL, who would I take rest of season? Like if it was a trade-off or straight up, it would be Saquon Barclay. But honestly, that's more because I would just feel so stupid. If I took the Patterson side and Barclay ended up just being Barclay, you know what I mean? Like if Saquon comes back and he's Saquon and I just kept Patterson, I would be like, what the hell was I thinking? I would so much rather be wrong on the Patterson side and be wrong on the Saquon side. So that's just some ego risk mitigation, me saying I would take Barclay here. Yeah, I'm with you guys and I agree with you. I think he's in that back end running back one. I still think he does have if he's able to stay healthy the way that Booker has looked in his absence, he does have that top five potential still, but not necessarily where he's going to wind up. But looking at the Las Vegas side of things, everybody was hyping up Derek Carr and he disappointed, although he did have almost 300 passing yards he had one touchdown, two interceptions and a fumble loss. Darren Waller managers have to be excited because he did have a bounce back game. Thank God. Seven catches, Simon, I thought of you when I saw this. 92 yards. 11 targets, right? Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, seven catches, 11 targets, 92 yards, Hunter Renfrow, even though he got banged up, who JL did not like it all this off season. I still, even though he got banged up, just joking JL. We know JL and Simon loved Hunter Renfrow, but he had seven passes, seven catches, 49 yards and a touchdown, but the receiving game was Brian Edwards. You know, everybody was hyped up on him with Rogues not being on the team any longer. He had nothing. I had the same amount of catches as Brian Edwards in a few weeks, so. He did have four more targets than you, but yeah, same amount of catches. You were more efficient. I was going to comment. I was more efficient. Yeah. I went earlier from Bradenton in here, just completely at the beginning of the show before we talked about the Raiders at all, just came in here and said, Brian Edwards, question mark, question mark, question mark. So I think you're right, Jay, people were expecting a lot more from him this week. Brian, dead words. Oh. That was on the spot. That was on the spot, guys. Brian Edwards. Get him out of here. Get him out of here. Geez, he's, he's. Crying Edwards? Is that? I had some hope for him coming into this week, but, you know, four targets, zero catches. Get him off. Let's just call him Brian next week. Thank you. It is a tough matchup against the Ravens. I'll give him a little bit of an excuse there, but still. The story for the Raiders was the running backs. I really liked the usage that Josh Jacobs got. 13 carries, 76 yards. He also had four catches for 19 yards, which is very nice to see for Josh Jacobs. Kenya Drake got involved as well. Although he only had four carries. He did have eight targets, six catches, 70 yards. So Simon, we'll start with you and go up. Thank you. Are both running backs on the Raiders startable for the rest of the season. Both running backs should be. I don't know if the Raiders are going to continue using Kenyan Drake this way, but I have been mad at every single NFL team that Kenyan Drake's ever been on for how they use him because this is how you do it. He doesn't need that many carries. He is an excellent receiving back and you saw it today. He gets work done when you give him targets. So hopefully the Raiders recognize that and they continue using him like this. I need another couple of weeks of seeing Kenyan Drake's usage like this to trust him in a starting role. Josh Jacobs, yeah, he's startable in the running back landscape right now. If you've got him on your roster, he's probably a starting running back for you. Yeah. Yeah. Love Josh Jacobs. Love Josh Jacobs. He's not a trusted Drake at all though. I was hyped to see him use this way today though, because that's how they need to use him. Drake's going to be involved in the passing game the rest of the season. I'm very confident about that, but he's not going to get eight targets every game. So I would expect somewhere around four carries like he got today and four, five, six targets, which makes them usable, but not someone you're excited about. J.L. Yeah. I'm perfectly excited for Josh Jacobs. Same amount as I was before. Yes. Perfectly excited. This has changed nothing for me. I'm one. Josh Jacobs got four catches himself. So I feel comfortable with him in my lives. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty much it. Guys, we're going to move on to the Houston versus Miami game, the game that people were most excited about today, I'm pretty sure. It was the headlining matchup. The Dolphins came out on top 17 to nine in this one. Tarah Taylor's welcome back game. Yeah, Tarah. Yeah, I know a lot of people had to start him. We had tons of questions this past week, leading into the week on, should I start Tarah Taylor, Jordan Love? If you did start Tarah Taylor, it didn't go super well. He didn't do fantastic. He had 24 completions on 43 attempts, 240 yards, three interceptions. Not great, Bob. Not great. But at least hope that he did something with his feet a little bit more. Only three carries for 23 yards, so he's not disappointed. Yeah, not very good. Outside of that, really it was similar to the Jaguars here. There really weren't many good fantasy performances this week on the Houston side of this ball. Brandon Cooks, he had 11.6 PPR fantasy points. He had six receptions on 13 targets for 56 yards. Josh, are you, like how are we feeling about Brandon Cooks at this point in the season? Are you, where does he land in the grand scheme of things? Are you starting him every week? Is he an emergency start week to week? I think he's a very good start. I'm not gonna say fantastic or anything because of the limitations this offense has, but again, 13 targets, six catches, 56 yards. Any wide receiver that's getting 13 targets, you won in your lineup. Do you think that Tarot coming back and again, hyper-targeting Brandon Cooks, like he was at the beginning of the season, is that what we can expect when Tarot's in the lineup or playing? Brandon Cooks is an explosive wide receiver. He's gonna get more than 56 yards. Typically, when you give him 13 targets, he only had six catches, but he's gonna have better weeks going forward. And I feel very comfortable having him in my fantasy lineup. He's not a wide receiver one. He's probably not even a wide receiver two, but he's very on the borderline right there. On the border between two. Simon, you made some noise out of it. Between two and three, as well I'm saying. I think he's like, if you said name a wide receiver two for your fantasy team, I think Brandon Cooks is the first name that would come to mind to me. He's right in that range between like 18 and 20. Like, I feel like he's right in the middle of that range for me of like a wide receiver two. And it's the volume. It's a bad offense, but he's the target hog here. He's gonna be better games. Let's play a game, Josh. You don't play a game. Simon, you, would you rather have Brandon Cooks or T. Higgins the rest of the season? Ah, that's a good one. That's a really good one because they're both pretty highly targeted in their offenses. Targeted. Targeted. Targeted. New England. I'm going T. Higgins. I'll take T. Higgins as well. I'll also take T. Higgins. Clean sweep. Super clean sweep. Yup. No, so you guys, sorry, got distracted by that trivia question. Sorry, sorry, I did, yeah, I did, I did. Yeah, Brandon Cooks, wide receiver 13 in the season, by the way, in BPR. Wow. That was higher than I thought. That's surprising. Yeah. Why? Currently, currently. So that's including this week's games that have been played. He is the guy on the tight, that had Texans. Yes. He's pretty much the only guy that's a Terattailer. Are you guys, are you guys comfortable starting him going forward as a QB option? Jay, what do you think? Comfortable? No, I think he's a decent QB too for Superflex League. He's not somebody that I'm interested in starting in QB1 Leagues, but Superflex, I think he's a fine start. What do you think, Simon? Oh, I covered myself. Tim was just in here saying, Finn's next stop world Stanley Bulls super championship. Yeah, I think that is the next stop after this went to him. Without a doubt, that's the next game they're going to play. Yeah, he's in Superflex Leagues. You can plug Terattail and maybe in, I don't know how much better matchups get though. So this is a... Exactly. That's what you need to talk about matchups, but this was it. This is a QB too. Miami doesn't have the worst defense. You're right. It is not the worst defense. It's not a great defense either though. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. So on the Miami side of this ball, two of us was ruled out prior to the game. I believe he did suit up, but he just in case because I needed a third QB, but he wasn't expected to play and he didn't play. Jacoby Brissette filled in for him and put up an okay game. It wasn't anything to write home about. But Miles Gaskin, he showed up, he had 20 attempts, 34 yards, touchdown, as well as six receptions on six targets for 23 yards and one fumble. Simon, how do you feel about Miles Gaskin? I feel like we talk about him week after week. And it doesn't seem to be a straight trend. How are you feeling about Miles Gaskin rest of season? I might say there's not a trend, but it looks like every other week. Every other week kind of looks like that. He's going to be inconsistent rest of season and there's enough evidence for that thus far that he's going to have more games like this where he shows up and you're happy you started them and he's going to have more duds where he's completely not a part of the Miami game plan for that week at all whatsoever. He's probably like if, man, I don't even know where I would put him. And RB2, given the RB landscape, he's probably a top 24, top 25 kind of guy rest of season, but it's not going to come consistently. You're not going to know what to expect from him. He's one of the biggest changes between a standard league and a PPR league. He really does thrive on the receptions, but he's heavily involved in the reception game. I like Miles Gaskin. I think you can feel okay with him and your fans to line up every week. Not, he's not a top 20 option even, but he's close. If you guys want to, why don't you guess what where Miles Gaskin currently is through all the games played up until this point? Where, in PPR leagues, what kind of running back or what's his rank? 24. He's had some big games. I'll say 18. I'll say 24. I'll say 18. I was literally going to be my exact answer. And so what's your guess? I feel low now. One dollar, I'm going to beat us. Simon, you know, 18. I had the right answer, so that counts. It leaves me to leave you cheated. So anytime anyone's exactly right, I'm like, oh, you cheated. Yeah, I definitely cheated. That's me. Big, big fat cheater. Big fat cheater. So apart from Miles Gaskin, really, we had Jaylen Waddle had a really good game. 10 targets, eight receptions, 83 yards. I think we expect that with Tavante Farkin being out. Second option there is Mack Hollins who had three receptions and six targets, 22 yards and a touchdown. Josh, are you, are you, do you have any interest in Mack Hollins while Tavante Farkin's out? No, no. The guys I want to start on the Miami offense, Miles Gaskin, Jaylen Waddle and Mike Gasicki at this point. Tavante Parker, maybe when he's finally gets healthy, who knows when that's going to be. Will Ford, maybe. So neither one of those guys. So yeah, like what I said, Mike Gasicki, Jaylen Waddle, Miles Gaskin, I feel comfortable with those guys. Yep. Okay, guys, we are going to move on to our next game. It is the Cleveland Browns versus the most confusing team in the NFL, the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, that's right. I have no idea what to make of this team. Some weeks they look like Super Bowl contenders and then some weeks they come out here and it just looks like they can't get it going. Who's more confusing? The Saints or the Bengals? The Saints, sorry. The Saints definitely are a little bit more confusing than the Bengals. The Bengals, because like the Bengals have more consistent like players. You're right. Like the Saints like, they have a, yeah, it's just like. They've had a couple of fluky wins, but outside of that they're pretty consistent. You know what you're right? I changed my answer to the Bengals. But guys, the first thing I wanted to bring up and it's sitting here right at the top of their top scores, Nick Chubb is the man. He is good at football. Anybody who had concerns about him have none. He's back and he's getting the full workload. And what this means is I know there were some people who hoped that Diernis Johnson would maybe fill that Karim Hunt role and be the one to punch with Nick Chubb. It's not happening unless Nick Chubb goes down injured. Diernis Johnson is not startable in any fantasy format. Do any of you guys disagree? Do you see any value in Diernis Johnson? Nope, he hit the nail on the head. Nope. That's it for Diernis Johnson on that side. Now the receiving options for Cleveland, OBJ as we know is no longer with the Browns. So we were hoping what that would mean was a great game for Jarvis Landry. It all checks out, right? Jarvis Landry, nope. Three receptions, 11 receiving yards for Landry. It was not a good game for him. Jay, I know you were bullish on Jarvis Landry coming off this news. Do you still have faith that he's going to have better games going forward, or how do you feel about Jarvis in getting this game result? I still like Jarvis Landry long term. I think he's a wide receiver too. Not necessarily the highest upside, but he should have a pretty safe floor, even though he did not have a great game this week. It was all Nick Chubb. It was a Nick Chubb game he took over. I think Jarvis Landry is somebody who you can start confidently. I think going forward, he's going to have much better games. Yeah, I tend to agree with you. The Browns went up big in this one. They had a defensive touchdown in the first quarter. This was a perfect game script for Nick Chubb to just go crazy. I think the receivers will be more involved. But speaking of the receivers, there are other receiving options that got involved today, specifically Donovan Peoples-Jones. It was three targets, two receptions, but 86 yards in a touchdown. And guys, that is a DPJ stat line. Whenever he is fantasy relevant, it's going to look like that. He's going to have the long bomb touchdown, and that's what they want to use him for. So Josh, given the long bomb touchdown, these boomer-bust kinds of players, do you have any interest in Donovan Peoples-Jones on your fantasy roster's rest of season? I really do not believe he's going to be a consistent producer for fantasy. Yes, he's going to have games like this, but he's one of the biggest boomer-bust plays you can throw into your lineup. So is he a good DFS player? Sure, if you hit on him, it's going to go well. But I don't trust him, I don't. J.L.? Yeah, I'm interested to see how his usage changes now with OBJ gone and in a game where they're not up by so much, where it's possible, like none of the receiving options really got a ton of targets. And so I'm a little interested. It's more of like a, not necessarily interested, like I'm confident that he'll get more usage, but I'm keeping an eye on it. Yeah. Okay, guys, on the Cincinnati side of this ball, Joe Burrow did not have a good game today. Turnovers, only 282 yards and no passing touchdowns. Josh, the Cleveland defense was back together today for the first time since week three. The secondary was fully healthy. The defensive line was mostly healthy. They have their linebacker core. Do you think this was Joe Burrow going up against a good defense? Was this a bad game where he got down, was trying to do too much? Or are you worried about him rest of season? I am not worried about Joe Burrow rest of season. I think it's a mixture of everything you just said. Yeah, the Cleveland Browns do have a good defense. They've kind of proven that all year. And yes, they got down early and Joe Burrow was trying to make things happen. That was very apparent to me, which led to not of a lot of success through the air, especially for Jermar Chase, who was at 13 targets still. Six catches, 49 yards. He also had two carries. T. Higgins had a great game himself. I just think, I think he was just trying to do too much, but going forward, I feel comfortable still having Joe Burrow in my lineup. And T. Higgins, Jermar Chase, Joe Mixon, all those guys are great. Fully agree with you there. All of those guys are pretty much every week starts in most fantasy lineups for me. Jermar Chase and T. Higgins are being targeted too much in a fairly high powered offense, usually for you to put them on your bench. The other note I have from this game though is man, I love Tyler Boyd, but he is just the odd man out when the other options are healthy. He is an unbelievable slot receiver and in very specific game scripts, going against teams that are weak against the slot receiver, you'll be able to start him. But outside of that, I think he's almost unstartable in fantasy when Chase and Higgins are healthy. Jay, how do you feel about Tyler Boyd? No, I think he hit the nail on the head. I think it's through Jermar Chase through T. Higgins and that's pretty much it. He's a decent flex play in games. Like you said, go up against teams that are weak against the slot receiver. But other than that, you can't start him with any sort of confidence. Yeah, I'm right there and Joe Mixon plug him in every week. Not do just stud. If you had the running back from this game this week, you were very happy. Did you hear that Josh? Joe Mixon? Yeah, let's go Jay, let's go. Joe Mixon or Joe Mixon boys. That's right. Next, we are moving on to this Denver Broncos versus Dallas Cowboys game. What the hell was this game? What? Yeah, Cowboys came out 30 to 16 and that score is a lot closer than this game looked for most of it. What a weird game. What was the spread guys? Well, how many point favorites for the Cowboys? Joe, what do you think? I would say seven points. Jay, what do you think? Six and a half. Simon. 11. They were 10 point favorites going into this game. The Cowboys were 10 point favorites and the Broncos beat up one of the Cowboys. The Cowboys never stood a chance. Teddy B. Teddy Bridgewater looked great. No turnovers on Wednesday and he had a rushing touchdown. He threw a passing touchdown. He didn't really have to do a turn because the running game was on fire itself. Melvin Gordon, 21 carries. Who was that? Who was that? You said Josh? Who was the name? Melvin Gordon? Thank you. I just wanted to make a point there. Jay, and I want to come to you here because you've been pumping on Melvin Gordon going back to the pre-season saying he's been a great running back his entire career and he's going to continue being the lead running back for the Broncos. Jamonte Williams also had 17 carries, 111 yards. He wasn't involved in the passing it but Jay, Melvin Gordon, is he just going to maintain this role going forward? Yeah, I think he is a locked and loaded rock solid RB2. I think he's the 1A to the Jamonte Williams 1B in this offense. They're both going to get a lot of carries and that was my whole thing this off season. Everybody just completely rode off. Melvin Gordon, like he was going to ride into the sunset but I had a feeling that this, it was going to be a committee and Jamonte Williams wasn't going to be able to take over this backfield and that's what it's been and Melvin Gordon has gotten more touches. Jamonte Williams is looked phenomenal. It was never about that. You've got to give a props to Jamonte. It was never me say Jamonte Williams isn't good. I do think if he's ever given this backfield to himself I think he could be a fantasy stud but they got too much money tied up into Melvin Gordon. He's produced, when he's on the field he's put up solid numbers. So I am comfortable starting Melvin Gordon every single week as a rock solid RB2. Yes, yes, yes. And the receivers in this game, Tim Patrick actually had the best game out of all the receivers. Jerry Judy looked great though. He got six catches, eight targets, 69 yards. Cortland Sutton was disappointing yet again for the second week in a row. Now that Jerry Judy has been back I don't know if there's a correlation there but Tim Patrick seems to have a safer floor than Cortland Sutton in this offense for some reason than me. I am nervous about Cortland Sutton going forward and JL are you as nervous as me? I just don't even, I'm probably going to still start him next week. Maybe as a flex play but I'm super scared. I am too. I think I mentioned this maybe last week on this stream. I can't remember we streamed entirely too much but it feels like we're potentially on this cliff for Cortland Sutton's value that I feel like people are going to start getting sick of waiting before you can sort of rest on the injuries and say, okay, well, when he's healthy he's going to be fantastic. He's got the talent. And I believe in the talent but we have to start seeing some fantasy production or else, I think people are going to start giving up. My only thing is 21 carries for Melvin Gordon, 17 carries for Javante Williams. This was a very, very run heavy game for the Denver Broncos. I am on the Jerry Judy side of this debate. I believe he is the 1A. I don't think we can write off Cortland Sutton for the rest of season. He's going to have fantasy success. Yeah, and I think a lot of people, I believe it played out to say we're expecting Trayvon Diggs to really shadow Cortland Sutton being that outside receiver type for Cortland Sutton. So I don't think that this game is indicative of that but we've seen the production be down in previous games which is there's concern for sure. I agree with you rest of season for sure. Like I think he's still going to have good games where he's not up against, you know, the best cornerback this season in a week. Do we all want Jerry Judy as the, if we had to pick a wide receiver on our fantasy team on the Broncos, would it be Jerry Judy for you guys? It is for me. It is for me. I hate that it is for me. Because I've been on the Sutton side. Okay. Not that there needs to be sides, but yeah. Well, on the other side of the ball, it was a very disappointing game for pretty much the entire Dallas Cowboys offense outside Malik Turner. But I know everyone started, it was starting in regardless, right? Yeah, right? No, he was fine, but what do you want to say? Those fan dual lineups where someone threw Malik Turner in there. Like they ran out of money. They were like, ah, screw it. I'll just start Malik Turner. I'm gonna be completely honest. I don't know if there's a ton to take away from this. I think that the Cowboys will get back on track going forward, going into next week. Yeah, it did get knocked out of the game, but he came back in. I think he's gonna be fine going forward. We'll keep an eye on that. He does have a knee injury. It appears, but again, the running backs weren't able to get carries. Amari Cooper, CD Land. Are you nervous about these options? We're still starting Amari Cooper and CD Land going forward, right Simon? Yeah, you can't bench them. They're high level receivers, high talent receivers on what is usually a pretty good offense or very good offense. So I'm starting them each and every week. It's a tough matchup too. Broncos have a good defense, especially against wide receivers. Yeah, and that's pretty much all I wanna go over here. I just don't think we can take away a ton from the Cowboys offense. I think it's gonna, like I said, get back on track going forward. Okay guys, we are moving into our 4 p.m. games here. At first, we've got the Chargers versus the Eagles in another close game. I know the line on this one at one point was at one and a half points on the Chargers side and people thought that was insane, but you know what? It was a close game. The Chargers only one by three here. 27-24. Yeah, so Justin Herbert had a great game. Really don't have to say much about him. He's pretty good at football. Austin Eckler was a bit of a disappointment this week though. He had 59 rushing yards. He only had, what was it? He didn't have that many catches. Where was it? I lost my notes. Three catches, 23 yards. So definitely a disappointing game where a lot of people thought he was in a smash spot. But Keenan Allen, who all of us have been saying, Keenan Allen is a buy low. The number, he's targeted too much. This is too good of an offense. He had a very solid game. 12 catches, 104 yards. Mike Williams is continued. He started off the season super hot and two catches, 58 yards. So JL, I know you are the resident Mike Williams fan. Is the honeymoon over with Mike Williams? Is he gonna bounce back? Or what can we expect? Let me rephrase the question. What can we expect from Mike Williams the rest of the season? Yeah, I mean, he's certainly fallen back down to earth. On the season, his target share is 22.1%. In the last three games, 16.7%. And so he just hasn't been targeted as much. I don't know if this is a tough matchup type of thing. Like it's just, he's been unfortunate with having tough matchups. I'm not entirely sure what the reasoning is for that. But I think we definitely have to temper our expectations a little bit. I think expecting him to be the top five wide receiver after a few games is classic overreaction from the fantasy community. And it's most likely gonna be somewhere in the middle. Mike Williams absolutely has the talent. He was getting the volume. And if we can start to see that volume increase again, then my feelings for him and his fantasy finish will increase as well. This looks a bit to me like they've shifted back to how he was used more in the past. Know what I mean? He was a high average depth of target kind of guy. He was not a high volume guy. He was getting these deep bombs. He's a big body receiver who can go up and make those kinds of catches. You watch that dude climb the ladder. There's no one in the NFL that can quite do it like he does. But early in the season, we saw them using him a little bit more all over the field, not just on these long passes. In the past couple of games, it seemed like a bit of a departure from what they were doing the first couple of weeks and some more familiarity with how we've seen them use in the past. So I'm curious to see what the reality is. Like Jale said, it's probably somewhere in the middle. I don't assume he's gonna see this rest of season, but we've also seen Mike Williams for long stretches of time used like he was in this game today. Yeah, absolutely. And on the other side of the ball, Jalen Hertz did not have a great game. He only had 162 passing yards and a touchdown, which is what you come to expect from him, but he only had 62 rushing yards on the ground. So it was not that great of a, he hasn't looked that good from a real football perspective. He did not have that great of a game from a fantasy perspective. DeMonta Smith at a bounce back game, five catches, 116 yards and a touchdown, but the real story is the running game and how the Eagles are the bane of existence for all the Miles Sanders truth was out there, including myself. Miles Sanders goes down and they're giving 17 attempts to Jordan Howard, 10 attempts to Boston Scott. Jordan Howard wound up with 71 yards and a touchdown. Boston Scott had 40 yards and Gainwell got two rushes and he got a touchdown. So it makes absolutely zero sense. So I will ask you guys this, is Miles Sanders a buy low? Are they actually going to use Miles Sanders the way that they should when he comes back from injury? And Simon will start with you. I don't know. Like nothing makes sense here. Like Kenny Gainwell was stealing touches from Miles Sanders whenever, like these starting running back, he was stealing touches from him. Miles Sanders goes down and like, everyone's thinking like, what the hell are they going to do? Get 15 carries a game to Boston Scott. And that's exactly what they do. Kenny Gainwell is getting less work without Miles Sanders and lineup. This is backwards Waco running back world. I don't know exactly what to think of this here. Yeah, Miles Sanders is probably a buy low, but he's going to come back and Nick Siriani's all of a sudden going to forget the success. He had running the ball and they're going to throw it 50 times a game with Jalen Hurts and just let Miles Sanders run it four times. Beyond frustrated with the running back situation here, but to answer your question. Yeah. Yeah, go straight for my seven real confident there. And I agree with what you're saying. Yeah, don't trade too much, but sure. I actually picked them up in a league. Someone dropped them. Oh, wow. Yeah, I picked my first drop. Oh, yeah. Jay Wall says, I love the Eagles coaching staff. Dot, dot, dot. I think there's a sarcasm in there from an Eagles fan. No way, no way. Jale? Oh, no, I'm not interested in Miles Sanders anymore. That's shocking. Right before he went down, you were claiming him as a buy low. So you've definitely. Yeah, I mean, they were using him. I was claiming they were buy low because they were using him in that way. You know, they were creasing his usage and now that he's injured and we're seeing them use other running backs. Jordan Howard. And they weren't using in the beginning of the season. You know, I'm not going to sit here and say, okay, I expect Siriani to come in and all of a sudden start using Miles Sanders like he did before he got injured because I just don't know. I don't know what is going into his mindset. Jordan Howard didn't play a snap all season until last week, got 12 carries last week and 17 carries a week before that. Miles Sanders hasn't gotten 17 carries all season. And he's got 15, 13 and 11, never above 10 after that. Yeah. I mean, yeah, buy low if you can, but I'm not spending, it's just too much risk. I don't know. It's just crazy. Yeah. That's pretty much it for this game. Okay, guys, we are going to move on to one more game here. Up next, we've got the Arizona Cardinals versus the San Francisco 49ers. Cardinals without Kyler Murray came out on top 31 to 17 in this one. This game was wild. James Connor, balled out. Ridiculous. I think he had 40 plus points in PBR format. Chase Edmonds got injured with a, he went out with an ankle injury. No real updates on that yet. Let me ask you guys this. Assuming Chase Edmonds comes back, would you rather have James Connor or Chase Edmonds the rest of season? Josh, what do you think? James Connor. Yeah, James Connor has been earning the trust of the coaching staff more and more and more. He's their goal lineback. Chase Edmonds is going to get more catches for sure. But yeah, I lean James Connor at this point. James Connor, what about you, Jay? Yeah, I completely agree exactly what Josh said. He's getting the red zone work. He's shown that he can catch the ball too. So even though Edmonds is going to likely get more catches when he's on the field, give me the guy who's getting the touchdowns. Yeah. A lot of people probably thought Jonathan Taylor was going to be the top scoring running back in fantasy formats this week, but topped by James Connor. Yeah, we knew it. Exactly what we all predicted. Christian Kirk also had a pretty good game. Deandre Hopkin was out this game. Let's see what Van Jefferson does. Just you wait, Jay. Just you wait. Yeah, if you don't know what you don't, unless you happen to be on our call during today. Which, what the hell were you doing in there? I was, yeah, well, why didn't you say anything? I was asking them who I should start, Christian Kirk or Van Jefferson. And everyone said Christian Kirk, except for Simon, who believes in Van Jefferson. So we'll see, we'll see who wins. It could go either way still. Yeah, Christian Kirk, he had six receptions on six targets and 91 yards. He's currently the wide receiver 23 on the season. Josh, you have interest in Christian Kirk rest of season. Do I have interest? Yeah, he probably, he's a useful flex play. He's a little boomer bust. You really don't know. He can completely disappear for weeks at a time, but he's got a lot of upside, especially once Kyler Murray gets back in this offense. Yeah, yeah, you can play him any week and hope that he goes off. What about you, Jay? What do you feel about Christian Kirk? I like him, but when all the wide receivers are healthy, you can't trust him. I think Josh said it perfectly. He's a fine flex play, but even though Deandre Hopkins' target share is down from what he's used to, he's the number one in this offense. A.G. Green's got a pretty decent target share as well. You know, they've got Rondo Moore. I think you're basically playing roulette with any of those three guys outside of Deandre Hopkins. Kirk does seem to be the deep threat, which you're more likely to get a big play, a big long touchdown with him versus some of the other guys. So I think he's fine, but you can't trust him on a week-to-week basis. Yeah, I think he's got a little bit more trustworthy the last few games. I think in the beginning of the season, that was definitely the case, but I'm a little bit more confident now to throw him in versus beginning of the season where it felt like it was good. A.G. Green comes back? Yeah, we'll see. I might adjust then, but yeah, I think so. Moving to the other side of this ball here, San Francisco, they played a game. We saw Elijah Mitchell get a lot more of the work in the receiving game. They did. Yeah, Spice to Michael, Hasty being active. Simon, does this change Elijah Mitchell's upside in your mind the rest of the season? If they want to use him in the receiving game, absolutely. I mean, throw this receiving line. I know it was a little bit disappointing today. 10.4 on Fandall scoring, a little bit higher in PPR. You weren't thrilled, you were fine with it, but he's had some incredible rushing games and throw five receptions for 40-something yards on top of that. Of course, it increases his upside. Now, again, this was one game. We need to see if it's a trend, but it was very encouraging that their usual receiving options were active and healthy and he was still getting this kind of receiving work. It ups his ceiling for sure. I think it's probably because they were down in the game pretty much the rest of the game and they needed to throw more. Yeah, he didn't get as many carries, but he was more involved in passing me because he was on the field on first and second down like he's kind of been and they were just passing more. Yeah, five receptions on five targets for 43 yards. Hopefully that gives the coaching staff a little bit more confidence to use him in that way, which they just haven't. The other big story, or I guess there's two other big story lines in this game I want to hit on. Brandon IU, comeback game. He had, what was it? Six receptions. Don't call it a comeback. Six receptions. He's been here the whole time. He's been in every level. Six receptions on eight targets in 89 yards and a touchdown. And a beautiful fumble. And a really goofy fumble. Jay, should people be picking Brandon IU off the waiver wire if he's there in their lease? Yes, I don't think he should have ever been on the waiver wire. I definitely don't think you could have started in with any sort of confidence, but he showed too much last year that he can produce when given the opportunity. And it's weird the way the season has gone for him. He was in the doghouse or whatever earlier in the year, but he's turned it on here recently and I think that he's somebody that you can't necessarily still, you can't trust by any means, but he's shown what he can do. This offense hasn't really found its identity. They haven't really been able to stay healthy. So I definitely think if he's out there, he's somebody you pick up in a good matchup. I think you can, or if you need a bi-week replacement, I think he's a solid flex play wide receiver three. And if he gets going, he could have a really nice stretch down the rest of the season. Simon, are you confident throwing brain and eye? You can, in your lineup, maybe your fan dual lineup? Nope, 0% confidence. That doesn't mean you can't do it, but I've seen enough from him this season in a complete disappearing act, a complete lack of involvement in this offense that this game and his slight uptick in involvement over the past couple of games is not enough to give me any sort of confidence to plug him in. Home run shot, sure. I think he's going to get a touchdown. Yeah, it could happen, but there is no confidence behind that. That's fair. And then I know we're slowly out of time here. Josh, last thing, George Kittle. Hey! He got from injury, strong, highest scoring tight end on the week, so far in the PPR formats. A lot of people were giving up on Kittle the last few weeks. Where can we expect George Kittle to finish the rest of season? Is he a top, still a tight end option? From this point going forward, he is a top five, locked in top five tight end. He is an elite, he's a top three talent. It's just, as long as he continues getting these targets, which he's seen when he's healthy, I love George Kittle. You don't even consider, you don't even consider if he's in your lineup going for it now, for me. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you completely, Josh. I think he's, I think he could be top, maybe top, tight end one on the season, rest of season. He could be, yeah. If he can stay healthy, that dude plays with reckless abandon. So he's going to have to stay healthy. Him and Mike Williams, both of them, they play violent football. So it's always a question if they're going to stay healthy. Okay, guys, I think that is it for our Sunday night recap. Thank you everyone who tuned in and came and hang out with us this Sunday evening. Sunday night football has started. So we are going to get out of here. We're going to go watch it. You go enjoy that game. A quick reminder before we sign off, if you have not done so already, make sure you subscribe to the Fandall YouTube. They are on YouTube at Fandall and go follow them on Twitch at Fandall. You can find them on Twitter and on TikTok at Fandall as well. Awesome content creators. It's not just us, you don't have to worry. There's some really great people on the Fandall site putting out some really great content. We know you were worried. Yeah, we know you were super worried over here. Rightfully so. Also, J-Wall in here trying to troll us. Fan Jefferson, 75 yard TD. Nice try, J-Wall. Can't trick me. That is going to be it for us today, guys, though. 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