 What you are looking at here those who are face-to-face and what you'll see in just a minute as soon as that light bulb comes on Is you're seeing a video conference technology quite a bit like zoom or teams or any better ones that you use But here the difference is Notable in a few other ways. This is a technology called shindig And we're using this for the future transform. So let me just explain right now If you look on the bottom good, this is up as well Don't strain your eyes too much, but if you look in the bottom left you can see the number 40 That means there are 40 people online for this conversation right now Are any of you online on your laptops or phones right now for this? Okay, now I say you let me just distinguish there are now two audiences that have been fused together over the past minute Online there are 40 people now 41 from the future transform community These are people all around the world mostly in the US all in the academic space and the people here in this room Why don't you say hello? Say hello That's a very enthusiastic group of people in the academic chair space Some of them are academic chairs some of them were recently academic chairs and have now ascended and some of them are on Their way to becoming academic chairs And If you can call them that okay, that's pretty good and now somebody is praising my tie. That's pretty good Yes, I normally wear a bow tie, but no one can tell So let me just explain For both the live face-to-face audience as well as the audience online The future transform is an unusual thing in two ways first of all We're a webinar that is not your typical webinar. We use almost no PowerPoint presentations We don't have any formal presentation at all I just have a couple of slides up here for the intro. I'll get rid of them The key thing here is conversation is discussion between people that typical session involves One or several great guests and we have a couple of you were enjoying me up here It looks a little bit and and this whole audience and the audience consists of people from a wide range of institutional Backgrounds from professions. So we have university presidents new community college students We have librarians faculty as well as some people academically adjacent like scholarly publishers and public librarians and that kind of thing And what we do for an hour is have a conversation about one particular part of the future of higher education And we've been doing this for seven years and we've had university presidents talking about leadership We've had enrollment scholars talking about enrollment We've had technologists talking about everything from chat GPT to zoom And the whole idea here is to have a collaborative conversation because we don't think any one person can run the whole show Now looking ahead if you're new to the forum, let me just mention a couple of details We have a few sessions coming up on decolonizing a higher education instructional design enrollment updates AI and academia and of course if you'd like to find out more about that just go to forum that future of education that us We can only do this help this is the part where we thank our sponsors So in New York State, how many people here face-to-face in Orleans are from New York State? You can tell they're not cheering or anything. They're not saying yay. Yeah from New York I can say it's because I was born in New York so I can say that But the New York Nizern Net is a nonprofit in New York State that helps at states colleges and universities get on very very fast broadband And they also do a great professional development. So we're grateful them for their support And we're also grateful to Schindig because that's the technology I'm using right now and if you're new to it or if you're all zoomed out Just just a quick show of hands in the physical room here. How many of you use a video technology besides zoom? Which one just shout it out Do you hear the enthusiasm from people there? teams Webex the only people excited about Webex are IT people because it's really it's really secure It really is it's good for that The way Schindig works is pretty much like the the normal way that the video conference tools work except it has a couple of differences Those of you who are online will see that the screen has two halves The top half is where people are on stage now. I'm Literally on stage here, but online those are people who everyone can see so it's a kind of central location For video feed and this is where our guests are going to be in just a minute But on the bottom half of the screen, which those of you face-to-face cannot see right now that is all people everybody in the audience and These are again people who are from all over the world of higher education And those of you who are online if you'd like to say hello to somebody else there Just mouse over them and you can double click on them if they want to talk to you You're ever in own audio visual bubble now those of you who want to communicate with us in general Face-to-face here in New Orleans You can just shout out your question or I can chuck a mic at you and I'll reef all paraphrase and repeat your question If you're online, you can use either at the bottom of the screen There's a white band running along it as a few different buttons One is a chat box and the chat if you haven't used it yet Just say hello and where you're from so I will just right now say Brian in New Orleans With dozens of people watching me type Now also for those of you who are online next to that Next to the chat box button on the bottom of the screen. There are two other buttons one of them is a Q&A button That's a question mark the other one is a raised hand button If you click the raised hand button that tells me you want to join us on screen And if you type in a Q&A into the Q&A box I will flash it on the screen so everyone can see it and I'll read out loud so everyone can hear it We have people from Austin, Texas from Tacoma Park from Dallas from Connecticut We have people from a central PA Houston, Texas and Washington DC. Hello John Indiana college station Oklahoma, so we've got a pretty good geographical base and hello Phil. Good to see you Now we're grateful to Shindig for making all this technology available Now pushing ahead a little bit if you want to get involved with this We have our archive right now, which has something like 333 recordings and YouTube so you just go to tinyworld.com FTF archive and if you just want to go chronologically that'll have them all there But also if you want to go thematically on the forum website We have an index broken down for every program by its topic from AI to pedagogy to professional development to town-gown relations People also may be interested in our monthly trends analysis which just came out this week the FTTE report You go to ftte.us to download that and of course I want to shout out our supporters on patreon These are the fine folks that contribute as little as a dollar a month to keep our machines humming and our lights on and the people here Contribute ten dollars or more a month with folks like Laura Gibbs Paul Henley Korea's and we're grateful to them for their support now this week this week our topic is Academic chairs and what's happening with that structure as we move forward on the course of our research We've looked at a wide range of topics from copyright to academic funding But we've also looked at a wide range of academic positions from presidents and provosts We've also looked at librarians and technologists and of course faculty, but here we want to focus in on this topic What does it mean to be an academic chair in 2023? How is that position changing as the world changes around us and what can we do to support academic chairs? And how can they support the rest of us? So Tony I would like to bring up at least one of our guests There's Terry where'd she go? Hello, you're on the other end of the room. So this is now dramatic We get to bring Terry up and who's our third not Christian who could make it, but Hello, Jennifer. Hello. Nice to meet you. Come on up This is great. There should be a TV kind of gesture here, right? We would play them to you with a theme song here, but you don't want me to sing that would be very very bad. Oh And If if we if we could please have a seat would be comfortable. I can turn this a little bit without breaking all the cables So that people can see you There we go. Hello Hello, and so these are two of our guests and so I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you some questions And then as we go the audience here face-to-face the audience online will have some questions as well So if you ask you to introduce yourself by saying who you are What your title position is or is this week and then tell us what you're working on for the next year Okay, me first. Yes, please. Can y'all hear me? So, hey everybody, my name is Jennifer LeMoyne and I am the interim associate dean at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette go Cajuns and In the College of Nursing and Health Sciences, and this is really exciting for us because it's just been over just been over the last year that we transitioned from the College of Nursing and Health Professions to the College of Nursing and Health Sciences and Additionally, we were upgraded from the Department of Nursing to the School of Nursing So very very exciting time for us Additionally, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette just received our one Carnegie designation So we have a lot going on University My role as the interim associate dean is pretty much to see to the day-to-day activities of the college we have Nursing health information Management and Health Services Administration in our nursing program. We have traditional undergraduate nursing students We have our M2BSN online program We have a master of science in nursing where we do family nurse practitioners psychiatric mental health nurse practitioners nursing education We also have a doctor of nursing practice Wow, and as in your position right now, you have to manage all of that. Yes And you were before this a department chair. So before this I was what we call graduate coordinator Which is a chair position For all of the graduate programs within the College of Nursing Before that I was the DNP coordinator in charge of the nursing practice program and then we have a structure in the college where we also have what's called semester Coordinators. So one of the things that makes us so successful is the team of leaders that I work with We have various Physicians different hierarchy so that one person is not responsible managing all the faculty and all of the students In the college. Fascinating. Thank you. Thank you. One last question Actually one observation a question the observation is here in Lafayette, right? Back in the middle of the state do it was smack in the middle of the state No, no, it's it is actually in the southwest Okay, so like Alex Andrea would be in the that's what I'm taking out in true court and one row at the top You should teach me for it. So I got this now a question to ask you is what the next year is going to hold for you I mean, what are some of the surprises of the challenges? What are the big ideas that are top of your mind? so One of the challenges that we have right now is where we have accreditation coming up in March So that's always a stressful time next month. That's fun. Yes. So All of our nursing programs Yeah, so it'll be a challenging time, but we're going to get through it The other thing that we that we have coming up in September is we are one of I think it's only about a hundred and thirty Simulation centers across the world. We are designated as a simulation center for medical and nursing Education, so we have accreditation coming up for that in September as well. Who accredits that. Oh I mesh, okay, please. I don't tell me what I can't tell you what it stands. No, it's okay It is an international Yeah, accrediting body and again, we're 130 in the entire world We have a very robust simulation center we have state-of-the-art technology as far as as intensive care we have a mom who births a baby Very very good activities for our nursing students now knowing nursing students as I do Did the nursing students get to take over any parts of the simulation? Yes. Oh, man. Yes, that can be funny Exciting what you're doing a dean's search and accreditation at the same time. Yes Yeah, it's only only a noisy Which is why you are in in New Orleans. Yes The other challenges that we're facing over the next year is Of course, we have decreased student enrollment We historically have had Very high and plexed pass rates, which is the national certification for our ends and post Copen and I hate to keep going and everything about copen but why not make We've seen a little bit of a dip in our and plexed pass rates We are still well above the national average for that And we're also seeing a transitional Type of student has anybody seen a different type of student out there with different learning These and learning styles and expectations of faculty so that that is that is a great transition for us and one of the things That we have not had before is a student success coach And you know, we have more students that have increased levels of a test anxiety The field of medicine and nursing is getting more complex Our national accrediting bodies are requiring more and more from us in the way of robust curriculums Changing to competency based education over the next couple of years. So all of these new New ways of teaching and learning are on the horizon for us. So we're going to have to adopt pretty quickly to that So this academic students success coach We're hoping we'll help our students overcome some of the barriers that they faced, you know post-covid We're also seeing lower levels of literacy math reading which is It's really a shame because you know, these students are having problems in basic math and Those calculations skills. Oh, no So we do have some works in the Louisiana State Legislature to enhance STEM programs We also have some funding that will be coming directly to nursing education Personnel and educators as well as funding for I guess different types of programs where second-degree programs to make it easier Recruiting students in high school make it easier to transition from Respiratory therapy to to registered nurse so that credits are included and we can get Individuals into the healthcare workforce sooner rather than later So lots of things coming up in 2023 indeed and you have a lot of sympathy in the chat by the way people have said You're doing all this at once. Oh my gosh, you get something for me as well And plus we have new faculty that I've been mentoring that are less than five years So we have a very broad range of skill mix as well as experience and The other thing we're probably going to be working on is now that we are in our one We have of course, we've always had a tenure track and it's been a research focused but We're also going to move to a clinical tenure track. Yeah Really, I guess I think the research focus tenure track a little bit more rigorous That makes sense. Thank you so much. That's a fantastic answer And I I'm sure people here will have some questions Well, let me But I just want to say for everybody who is physically here in New Orleans If you want to ask a question, you can just raise a hand or you can stand up and as I say that one man Just raised his hand. That was pretty remarkable Well, why don't you go ahead and shout your question? And if people here can't hear it, I'll repeat it How do you deal with the mental health challenges of nursing students today, okay? Can I just guys repeat that a question was how do you deal with the mental health student challenges facing nursing students today? so we've seen more and more of which is Unfortunate we do have a counseling and testing service that is available for all of the students across the campus not just nursing students we have another faculty member who Is in the College of most liberal arts, but criminal justice and he is instituting a program for late individuals Those who are not nursing or in health care professions across the campus To be able to recognize signs and symptoms of mental health Issues early signs and symptoms so that in your classroom if you're a math teacher You may not be well-versed in these signs and symptoms of anxiety, mental health, depression so Instructors can go ahead and take these classes and be better equipped across the University and Do proper referrals so just a little history by the state of Louisiana 100% of the state is Designated as a health professional shortage area for 95% of the state is designated as a health professional shortage area for primary care providers We have a lot of work to do here in Louisiana But thank you for the question. So when Tony I went to register yesterday, and I'll walk up to registration and Tony says Jennifer the one We've been talking about you. I can't remember why Do I want to be Jennifer the one maybe I'm gonna sign as somebody else. He said we want you to be a pianoist And I said, I don't know what to expect, but I knew I could deal with a friendly audience Thank you guys for being so So far But we have a quick question for you, and then I want to introduce your colleague One person asked is there a higher rate of mental health problems or are we more attuned to mental health issues post COVID? I think both I think that we are more attuned to post COVID, but I also think that we're seeing a oscillating rates and in populations that we've not seen before such as ground school Yeah, you know traditionally, you know high school and college students We would see it young adults as well, but we're we're seeing Younger younger individuals across the state. The other thing we're seeing is Geriatric individuals who have had any contact with families for a very very long time That may have had a very robust social life Yeah, I know my mom we go worse for a life every Wednesday, right? But she hasn't been able to do that for a very long time So they're losing their social structure and that's also increasing rates of depression and suicide as well in the geriatric population Thank you for that great answer. Carly. Thank you for that great question, and I'm sorry. What's your name? Thank you Jeffrey great question great question now We have more questions coming up and by the way if you're online again Just either go to the bottom of the screen and just hit the raised hand question Raise hand button if you want to join us on stage or hit the Q&A box if you want to ask a question Why don't you pass them like a word to our colleague here Terry? I'm gonna try and point the camera at you without getting there we go We can see you. Hello. So first of all to bring you on stage metaphorically. What the what is your current title and your name? And tell us a bit about your position Well, my name is Terry Gatter, and I am the associate dean for academics at Kansas State University Solina campus. It's our urban space and technology campus for our College of Technology and Aviation So different fields, but a lot of similarities in what we deal with And I have actually been a department chair at a private institution for for many years actually teacher education Background go figure that I'm in an in aerospace and technology campus. Yeah, it makes sense But so I've been a department chair. I've been a school director and now I'm an associate dean role. Wow, okay This is fantastic and One question asked is the question I just put your seatmate here. What what are you looking forward to for the next year? What are the big challenges the big opportunities the the major concepts that are at top of your mind? Wow, do we have like five hours? No We have a few minutes in a nutshell a strategic planning as we look at the future of education and where Where higher ed is going to try to be proactive on that? It is really important and strategic planning is no longer 10-15 year strategic plans. We've got to be flexible We've got down and we've got to be able to move and adjust quickly That's one of the biggest changes that I'm seeing now from where maybe 15 years ago as a department chair So strategic planning is one Curriculum reviewing the curriculum. We currently have to make sure it's relevant rigorous relational Those are really important pieces for success And as we plan that and one of the things that's taught on my mind is partnerships And how we work with others we cannot do this in isolation at all Even if you used to survive in isolation if you try to do things in isolation It's going to be a losing battle. So how do we work with our industry partners? How do we work with our advisory committees on the most cutting-edge and relevant things that are happening? How do we work with our public schools? How do we work with our Chamber of Commerce and promote the regions that we're in? It's collaboration that's going to help us somebody mentioned earlier collaboration was important in the session I was in and I fully believe that. Oh, thank you. That's a fantastic answer And I have questions for you, but I want to make sure the audience gets to ask questions So again for everybody in this room just raise your hand and if you're online Just either click the raised hand button or click the Q&A button and we have a couple of questions I think for both of you. So let me just put one of these up right now And this is from Tom Hames who is not too far away from us using the Houston area in Texas and Tom asks Do academic departments create artificial silos that undermine the broad-based undergraduate education necessary for thriving in a digital world? Thank you Yeah, absolutely. Do academic departments create artificial silos that That undermine the broad-based undergraduate education necessary for thriving in the digital world Kind of said both When I first went to the Salina campus We had the name polytechnic And it was we were very intentional about working cross disciplinary cross department. That was my role as school director We brought three different departments together and so we were very intentional in doing that which department We brought together an aviation department an engineering technology department and our science and business Into one school of integrates that now there's some challenges there But it was fascinating and I had the opportunity to work with amazing individuals very passionate about their own content, but were challenged to work across the aisle so to speak and collaborate on We had a structure that forced that collaboration With some challenges, but also it moved us forward as an institution to be able to do some of the very things We're doing right now So I think we have to be careful if we're operating in silos the natural structure of a hundred-year-old University structure puts us in that we have to be intentional to put together ways that we can Work together I'll give one example Please manned aviation. We are great at that We are also one of the first schools in the nation to do It was called unmanned UAS or drones. We're now calling it uncrewed But those two Disciplinary fields are on a collision course and they're going to be merged in the future So to be prepared for that we can't operate in isolation. Yeah, so we are doing things intentionally now And building our curriculum around things that bring us together. Oh, that's a great example. That's a great example Jennifer, please so undergraduate nursing is very specialized as far as Preparing Graduates for the digital world. I mean we do have a lot of components to our courses as well as base to base classroom Again, the robust simulation Yeah, environment that we have we also integrate a lot of Technology And I'm not trying to sell any one product. But for example, there is a virtual health assessment a product out there called shadow health where In the absence of a patient experience in the hospital setting We can Virtual technology Can simulate that particular patient experience of the student will respond to the patient and based on their choices I will go down an algorithm where the patient will actually have different outcomes based on their choices So I do think we use a lot of digital technology Our undergraduate nursing students are also equipped to be prepared to go to the workforce that has electronic health records We have we partner with our HIM department where we have interdisciplinary Content taught in courses. We have a course where our HIM students will actually work with And advanced practice registered nurse We have a case scenario and based on the scenario and they will do the coding and billing I believe That is so important for healthcare. So I think we're doing a good job. Did I can't speak for all departments and colleges. It's interesting how you for you the digital was a way to help cross these boundaries and then for you You had a structure in place to help cross the boundaries. This is a First of these are great answers. Thank you both and Tom as usual a great great question And if you're new to the forum again, that's an example of a Q&A question Now I'd like to bring in a video question for our good friend Roxanne Risken who I believe is coming to us from Connecticut Let me see if I can bring her up on stage There she is. Come on Roxanne. It's great to see you. Oh What a great topic. I can't hear you right now. Is your mic off? No Now it is off. It should be on. Can you hear me? No, I can't pick it up at all. Everyone can hear her except me. What's a terrible position to be in? If Roxanne, why don't you ask your question? Well, we'll see. Yes Well, why don't you ask your question and everyone then can hear it? And then what don't you and then someone that Shaq can quickly paraphrase it in text? Thank you About how social emotional learning possibly be integrated into higher ed and A model In that area and he might I took a month and this is I'm going to segue I took a mindfulness course for health care professionals It was a short module. Here's the University of Florida I found it fascinating Helpful for reducing the stress which you mentioned before in the other Question I have is virtual reality. Have you embarked on any adventures and any learning experience that you find helpful? for your students you mentioned simulation Our our AV ninja just fixed the the problem with a single click And so you were just talking about social emotional learning and how to be integrated further into higher ed and is there a model that Okay, so that's a that's a quick question so Social emotional learning. These are a way that we can incorporate that into higher education Social emotional learning. Wow. How do you unpack that that is? multifaceted We talk about mental health That's that's one piece of that. But how do we even train people to recognize? Elements and we do have pieces of Self-care that we work into our curriculum, but even I don't know. I think it's social emotional learning. I think I think of All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna say this not that I agree with this But a lot of people will say the pilots Have their own set of egos. Mm-hmm. They don't always Maybe understand people from a different field Study, so how do we how we help them be open to? That human element of a little bit of different from them. We do have some of those conversations And helping individuals understand that other people are different and by using scenarios And examples of things that would happen from a human factors perspective both within the field and across The culture of groups of people that they'll work with That's that's a great question Thank you, that's a good answer. Jeffery. Do you want it? Yeah, so so what we're hearing from our employers and hospital system is that the graduates that are coming out or or not a premier from a a social emotional standpoint they may they may possess the knowledge of the skills, right, but They are not as resilient They have seen in the past and I don't know what the answer to that it is Particularly in nursing where probably a little bit tougher than maybe some of the other colleges, you know a little bit more You need to mature, you know, you big girl panties on because you know, what you're dealing with is life and death You know if you make a mistake you kill somebody versus I don't know make them call me wrong or whatever so so we do take a little bit more of a Tough level approach when it comes to our undergraduate students, but we do have over the past couple of semesters we have a very involved Diversity equity and inclusion committee within the college They have done some wonderful things in the college and across campus. So I think that we are learning to socially accept differences and uniqueness about different cultures and individuals Or readily then we haven't passed Something that is progress there who leads those workshops or where do they live institutionally? so It's an ad hoc committee that is within the college is not a standing committee like a curriculum committee or a program evaluation committee And we just put it out there to the faculty and we said hey is anybody interested and It is the committee that we have the most Representation on from faculty. We also partner with back to you from other colleges across campus And there was actually a graduate level DI Committee That deals specifically with graduate Education and students Excellent. Thank you Are you using virtual reality in any in any way in your simulations? We do we do we have We have something at the university called step brands and that's These that are paid You know when you get to college you build there's like a thousand fees that you don't know what they're for And you've got you know a $19 yearbook fee nobody Nobody reads the yearbook anymore, but nevertheless There's the technology fee and one of that student technology fee goes back into investing in the colleges across the university and We have recently received an award for a step for that grant for a Virtual reality where we purchased the glasses I believe it is I don't I don't know a lot about it because we haven't had They've been delivered and we haven't had any type of training sessions But she used that In our patient care in addition to our simulation lab So, you know, maybe I'll put that in a chili on the hook. I'd love to see that We're really excited about that and that that is something that came out of our community health and psychiatric faculty In those investors because there's not a lot of simulation that you can do out with community settings or The psychiatric patient. Yeah, so we're hoping to be able to enhance our learning outcomes and delivery of Of course content with this virtual reality. I've not seen it I've got used to but I'm excited about it. Oh, excellent. That's great And medicine has always been on the early stage for simulation for a really good reason I see medicines a little older But I will say that For example, our pilots who would take off from central Kansas We have the longest runway over a mile of runway, which is awesome for training aspects, right? but They can fly into any airport virtually and we've done some simulations They can talk to control tower in Los Angeles or they can I mean be able to use that virtual reality And Partnerships So some of those things are fascinating and so to the question about can we use that To help us in these arenas. Absolutely. I think we need to figure out a way to do a bit But I think that's a great opportunity Well, that was a great answer great answers from both of you Roxanne as always. Thank you so much for the great questions. Thank you That's an example of a video question. We have a couple of other text questions and oh one more video question coming in This is Adam Maxwell. Let me see if I can bring him up on stage Hello, Adam. Hi, Brian. Thanks for I wanted to follow up on Adam. I can't hear you. Can you hear me now? Adam are you frozen? Nope. Can you hear me? Adam your input seems to be frozen. I'll bring up your text question instead Let's see We have the question being this is following up on Tom's question about disciplines. Let me bring this up on the stage So you guys can see it What do universities need to do to facilitate interdisciplinary across departments or even merging departments? Especially related to how resources are allocated. So what do universities need to do to facilitate Interdisciplinarity across all these silos Well, I'll start just because I have the experience of forcing it structurally Is a way to accelerate that It's not always painless, but it's a way to accelerate that interactive Collaboration Another thing you can do is incentivize Interdisciplinary projects on this scenario that I gave you of our AR VR Students sitting in Kansas but talking to control towers and taking off and landing in airports across the nation Yeah was established in partnership with an aviation faculty And a computer systems faculty working together two different departments than initially under the school We were merged together Brought them in as they were both new faculty at the same time actually But building those relationships and helping those new faculty engage with people from other disciplines I think it's really critical to help with that as well. So those are a few couple ideas So some of those incentives and and and that kind of practice. Yeah, please So I think for us it's a little bit different and what we've done Of course, we have very good working relationships with college of science college of engineering you know, we we do try to Do some interdisciplinary work Whatever we can But in That has a very large medical community and what we've done is we have partnered with Some of those Clinics and agencies to do interprofessional research And it's it's been a two-way street For example, you know, I was telling Jared. I just recently graduated from the university of Utah College of Nursing um with a PhD in nursing And my dissertation focused on sex-based differences in purple artery disease and what we what we've seen historically Is that women are disproportionately affected where Purple artery disease has always been considered a male dominant disease. We just didn't get it right So we have a cardiovascular institute in the south, which is the The number one cardiology clinic across southwest Louisiana And I partnered with their physicians to do a secondary data analysis To improve patient outcomes within our community So that is an example of an interdisciplinary partnership that is not only benefiting That particular clinic would benefit any patients across southwest Louisiana and hopefully beyond And as well as research development for the university And in turn that relationship has also fostered some opportunities for our doctoral students To continue research efforts with that institution And other other institutions within the akete out of region So we do seek opportunities wherever we can find them whether they be across campus or across town to foster disciplinary Partnerships so having these off-campus partnerships is a really key way of doing that Off-campus partnerships, and then we also have what we call academic practice partnerships With hospital systems as well Well, thank you. Thank you Adam, that's a great question and thank you both for these really useful inspiring answers We have another question coming in from our friend our friend glenn mickey Who I think is in florida right now. Let me make sure But glenn asks this question today's inside higher ed opinion asks University should immediately designate an ai task force ideally at the level of each college or perhaps even each department How can this be done? So I think this is in response to chat gpt and other generative ai challenges Exactly, so not not not the computer science study of ai but grappling with ai as it impacts individual departments and individual schools so it's funny that Because I received An email maybe a week or a week and a half ago from a colleague from Creighton University in Arizona saying that hey, we need to be able to look out for student papers that are being written using artificial intelligence And I had never I knew about artificial intelligence and I knew that there were programs that were in the works where you would put in keywords And an article would be reproduced but the ones that I had seen The first ones I saw thought that they were written by someone who used First language was something other than english because there were little nuances within the article that just Just weren't right It's a translation issue, but I found out it was an ai issue um, but they're You know, I don't know what we're gonna do about that I do know that there's an individual and I can't remember the name of the person who has come up with a program that will be able to detect if the paper or article was written through an ai mechanism, so I guess kind of Reven up turning in For the next generation So I do think that that is something we need to be aware of as accommodations as far as How is ai going to influence the students work and is it actually the students work that we are receiving? So how this is a good point and the most popular tool of these is is chat gpt and there are at least two There are at least two different detectors I've seen the company that makes chat gpt open ai has one and a princeton undergrad released another one But the but interesting question is is this something which we could say that all academicians should be aware of But how can we structure that kind of awareness into say departments or into divisions? I think it's like anything I said that comes along in in education is you know, we need to Make sure that our faculty are aware of that whether whether it is diversity training or whether it is Learning about a new curriculum. I mean, this is definitely A threat to the future of academia. So I think it is is something that my gosh if I have to watch one more Video about safe driving while I'm on university time for continued education Every I certainly think that we can add something in That is required for us to maintain currency with the trends And ai that would have been our institution. Thank you. Thank you terry. Did you want to I just add this is something that's Challenging to stay abreast of because as soon as you learn about it it changes right that's what technology is so being able to be open with our faculty and have Spaces where we can collaborate and share ideas is is really important So somebody may have already looked into something that they can share with everything I'm not sure A task force Would be the way I would approach it as much as open collaboration and keeping the topic at the top Discussion lists that we have the other thing is our faculty have for several years been talking about How do we in covid expedite this? How do we structure our assignments? So that the students are actually Demonstrating their knowledge And applying that knowledge rather than doing papers or multiple choice tests and that type of thing and so When we're looking at that performance based outcome Can the students show me physically or do some kind of project that I don't then have to rely on the paper to understand their knowledge I don't know if the online audience could hear this But there were some applause from that last point about structuring assignments And assessments that actually reveal student learning That's a great question glenn uh, and that was uh glenn I think that was a column that was on the top of inside higher ed this morning By the way, we're we're coming close to the end of our hour So there's time for everyone to ask another question or to make another comment We have one one question from the online audience And this is from carly and carly continues our exploration of interdisciplinarity By asking this Follow-up, uh, what can staff offices and faculty departments learn from each other about cross collaboration? So what can staff offices and faculty departments Learn from each other about cross collaboration Why don't they ask these hard I think staff Staff offices is critical And I'm fortunate to be a smaller campus So this is easier than you are having a very large campus where you might have A five-story building that's all one apartment So In this case smaller is more efficient in that cross collaboration by necessity Everybody has to work multiple hats. So I'm blessed. I don't know if I'm the best one to answer that. Oh, that was a good answer I know we have Well, hey, I remember the five-story building when you when you say small, how many students do you have roughly? We are about 800 students right now. Okay. First will be over a thousand five fall. Okay. Well, good luck. Thank you Yeah, please five-story building And we're not Considered as a large university like LSU health science and we have About 15,000 students across campus. So between 815,000 I mean you've been talking about a huge difference in how how we would handle something like that um And I honestly I don't know what the answer to that would be I think that's something that is I would have to do some research on that to see what the best approach would be What has been done previously that works? What are some novel ideas that may work at my institution or when I work at a smaller institution So really a really good question that I don't think I have the answer for Well, I appreciate that. I really appreciate that and carly. It is a good question And if you have any examples you want to throw at us, please please do Do you want to say I was just going to share one example and again, this is from a small institution We when we're dealing with curriculum We have staff and advisors that sit on our what we call a matrix team for curriculum changes Because they know how that impacts our students. And so our matrix team for a change in Say something in physics involves People from all disciplines and even staff people to give input before it goes through that curricular stages So that's a structural Through that matrix team. Oh, that's a great answer. I like that. Thank you. I think people are going to be googling that right now Thank you We have Only three minutes left. So I would just like to take the moderators privilege and ask one quick question Which is and this is again, we only have a couple minutes left. So they can be as quick as you like How do you see specifically the chairs role as changing over the next five or 10 years? I think that In particularly in nursing we have had People stay in this position for a very long time Which is good to have the historical background but can also be a barrier to moving forward So I I think that Having a little bit more flexibility A little bit more Different mechanisms that we have now for Individuals that are in a chair position and I think too that we have to take into consideration How we're going to have to adjust to the faculty shortage how we're going to have to adjust to Decreasing numbers in enrollment Decreasing the finance that we're getting from the state. I think that we're going to have to develop unique strategies To combat all of that and that's something that you know, we might not have had to do before because You know when I first started at the university Over 16 years ago 75 percent of our funding came from the state and now it's less than 20 Wow So moving forward I think we need to anticipate changes like that and Get ahead of the changes for sure it'd be proactive Oh, they I don't mean thank you for that terrible number, but thank you for sharing all of that So that's that's quite a that's quite a role for the chair. The chair has to be very nimble and strategic You're you're looking at different funding streams, which means partnerships Collaboration I've said that earlier, but I think the chair has to look at how can I develop partnerships Not just within my institution or within and across other institutions Partnerships with the community We have a million dollar grant from a business down the road from us that needs Needs workers saying here's how we can work together. So thinking of those collaborative pieces In terms of state funding that you are in a political role as a chair You really Conversations that maybe you wouldn't have 15 years ago Whether you're telling the story advocating for for the efforts and the vision that you have at your college and at your school It's become I believe the more political type of position that it used to be as well And this is related to workforce development, particularly for health care I think a challenge for me over the next couple of years is also going to be for those students that may be unsuccessful in a four-year college How can we transition them to a two-year technical college and keep them in the workforce? So, you know, that's something we will need to and we are looking at it at a legislative level um Very involved with health policy at the state level and federal level. So we are developing task force and work groups to see what we can do to build the workforce in the state of Louisiana That's fantastic. Those are great answers and we are out of time And so I want to first of all, thank you both if I get a round of applause for these two brilliant women Thank you so much And thanks to people here face-to-face who ask good questions And share their attention with us. Thanks to those who who are online for all of your great questions Let me just point out if you want to keep talking about this. We can use the hashtag Tweet at me, brian alexander events. There's a mastodon handle or my blog If you'd like to dive into our previous sessions looking at things medical education Just go to tinyurl.com FTF archive if you'd like to look at similar sessions coming up. Just go to forum that future education.us If you want to send me anything that you've been working on that you want to celebrate Please email me be glad to share that And in the meantime, thank you all for a great session I hope everybody's well that you stay safe warm and dry depending on where you are and we'll see you next time online Bye. Bye