 Hey gang, welcome back to my channel if you've been here before, and if not, welcome. I'm glad that you found me. There are videos on this channel with serious information that can help heal more than 90% of any health, wellness, or body image challenge without buying silly products, without gimmicks. Just info that you can apply to your life in a way that suits your own lifestyle, and it's gonna get you to your goals. Anyhow, today's video is actually gonna be an audio I have been invited on a beautiful colleague of mine's podcast. Her name is Amanda Gazolla. Her podcast is the ReLove and Rise podcast. And that podcast is all about taking back control of your life, learning to love the you that is deep inside of you. Again, the authentic you, the real you, and breaking the cycle of all the negative influence around you, because there is negative influence around all of us. And not necessarily negative, but the vast endless universe of the internet with all of its info that's hugely overwhelming, contradicting, this is about breaking all of that down. And today, we are gonna talk about getting back to basics. This was an awesome podcast experience because this was totally unscripted, so raw, just conversation between Amanda and I. We touch on things like what happens to someone's body if they were placed in a Jolly Jumper as an infant. What might happen to your child if they are in a Jolly Jumper as an infant? Like just, that's a tiny piece, but the rest is just about bringing it back to basics. What are the basics? Honestly, because everything is so misconstrued, so blown out of proportion, just it can be so much easier. And it's amazing to me that my clients come to me and I get them to their health, wellness, and body image goals really quickly. And they almost aren't even sure what happened. It's almost like how did that happen so easily? What have I been struggling all of these years for, doing all of these different things? Cleanses and fad diets and blah, blah, blah. You can get to your optimal health and body image goals so quick. Anyhow, I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. I can't wait to listen back to it. I have linked Amanda's info below, her website as well as her podcast. If you would like to hear more, she is such a sweet soul. And until the end of the video, have fun. Hi friends, and welcome to the ReLove and Rise podcast. I am your host, Manik Zola, former busy bee chasing her dreams to an energizing self-love advocate. I want the kind of life that has fun, ease, joy, and flow, which is why each week I will bring you an episode that will help you move forward to building the life that you want so that you can elevate and soar. So get ready with me and join me as we take one step forward in that direction today. Hello and welcome to the ReLove and Rise podcast. I have a special guest with me today. Her name is Kelly Duffin. She has devoted most of her life to learning and practicing in holistic health. She is an advanced holistic health practitioner, individualized nutrition specialist, holistic lifestyle coach, personal training specialist, a public speaker, a health and fitness expert and author. She is amazing. She is influential figure in the holistic health having unparalleled success using cutting edge assessment and treatment techniques, which means that she has a lot that we're gonna be able to talk about today because there's not a one size fits all when it comes to weight loss. And that's why I'm so excited to have Kelly in front of me. Hello, Kelly, how are you? Hello, I'm good. Thank you so much for having me. Oh, no problem, girl, no problem. How is your day going so far? It's good. It's always good. Awesome. I am so glad that you're here with me today because I wanna bring it back to the basics. And that's why I wanted to have you on here because I feel that in the fitness and health industry, we are over-complicating a lot of diets and just basically I feel like no one knows whether to turn left or right anymore. Oh, absolutely. As soon as one thing comes out and becomes a fad, like whatever specific diet the next day, there's another one. And I mean, I can't even keep up with it. And I find I have to research and it's just like I find that, you know, I was already confused growing up as a little kid and wondering what to do, reading all the magazines. And now a days, now we have Google, we have so much fad and it's just like I wouldn't know what to do anymore. I feel like I would feel so lost and alone. Yeah, it's definitely like that. I get a lot of people coming to me for weight loss and I bring it back to the basics and they kind of look at me like, that's it. And I think, yeah, that's all it needs. Yeah, it's so true that I find that as well when they're like and it's stuff that they already know and so they're kind of like looking and like you have three heads and it's just like, but there should be so much more. And it's like, no, that's the best part about it is that we don't want to put anything more on you. We want you actually to do less for yourself, like less like looking on Google, like trusting yourself and knowing that you're making the right choices. Yeah, and I will go with someone into, you know, any strange oddity that might be preventing them from losing weight, I'll obviously look into all of that, but nine times out of 10, it's really just the basics. That's all, I'm so excited to bring it back with you, but first I want to give people more of an idea of who you are. I know I give you a little bit of an introduction, but there's so much more to you. So who is Kelly? I started in emergency health services actually in ambulance dispatch, but I had, by then I was in my early 20s and I had IVS and PMS and eczema, psoriasis, acne, panic, anxiety, you name it, I had it. And it was just, I was so sick of that and I couldn't lose stubborn weight. I was always full of water retention, cellulite, you know, just everything that people nowadays end up with and they think that, well, it sucks that I have this, but this is just what happens and so living with it. And I just started delving into eight more years actually of education on holistic health and how the whole body works together as a whole unit and how does each unit affect the other systems in the body and what is going on and why? And every time I found something out, I would ask why and go further and go further until I hit the bottom. And then low and behold, all of the issues I mentioned that I was experiencing went away. And so I started helping people in my family and people that I knew that had autoimmune diseases or it started out with diabetes, MS, fibromyalgia. I specialize in those now and weight loss and things. And I found that just by using the basic principles that I had learned, which really it's just six foundational principles of health, once I balanced those at a minimum of 80, 20 in people's lives, everyone was overcoming any of their challenges. No matter what their challenge ranged from and it just thought, I just thought that's so amazing to me that I just wanted to devote my entire life to it. So I left EMS and started my business. Wow, that is... I am excited to dive into definitely the six optimal foundations that you talked about, but at the same time, how long did it take for you to overcome all the symptoms that you're experiencing? I would say I started overcoming them and then they would flare up again and it really brought me back to the thoughts. Once I learned the thought process behind everything, this is going way down a rabbit hole, but once I learned that it took me a year to really get everything under control, yeah. I think that's like relatively how long it really takes because you're kind of going in and out, like learning, especially when it comes to anything autoimmune especially, it's like everything triggers. So it's kind of like you're going and figuring out all like what the triggers and things are to know, just bringing more awareness to your new lifestyle. Yeah, there was a lot of trial and error and even with people, there is no one size fits all. So yes, all six need to be balanced for everyone, but how for each person? Because each person is so different. And so even with myself, it takes a little bit of trial and error to figure out where each individual needs to start. Well, this is gonna be good. So let take me through, can you take me through your process? So when like someone's like going and experiencing and feeling all this, like what's the process? Like what do you do? So usually the best thing that I do, I was gonna say for weight loss, it just, I don't know, it's different, but if I'm gonna use the whole gamut that I do. So basically there are three areas of lifestyle that give us life force energy and help renew that and keep our bodies repairing and rebuilding in an optimal way. And there are three things that drain the life force from us and cause our bodies to degrade cellularly. So the three that degrade us are thinking, breathing and moving. So if you think about the amount of people thinking, breathing and moving every day, that's everyone. And the only three that give us back what we need to repair properly are sleep, nutrition and hydration. And so the amount of people thinking, breathing and moving that don't have adequate sleep, nutrition and hydration, it just becomes apparent that there's an imbalance going on. So I look into their own individual lifestyle into each one of those areas and I really seek to figure out which area is causing the most problem and how is that affecting the others and what's going on in the body. And so in that way, I'm able to figure out the etiology or the root cause of whatever their issue is and help them rebuild in balance. That's awesome. So when someone sits with you and they're telling you they're basically what's going on with them and you're really diving in more into the why and how it's affecting their daily life and you basically bring up those six foundational things, do they be, are they always like, yeah, like do they get exactly where you're coming from? Because like they're like looking for like that solution but there's so much in that solution. Basically, I don't wanna overwhelm anyone. So I get them to fill out a series of questionnaires and it doesn't seem apparent to them at all why they're asking, why they're answering questions. Some of the questions seem unrelated to maybe what their issue is but they fill it out and they give it back. And as I go through that, I'm able to pinpoint the areas and I'm able to sort of piece it together. And I obviously, I see them often depending on which program they have. And so I kind of just do my own magic while I keep them underwhelmed if that makes any sense. Yep, definitely. Awesome, awesome. So we're bringing it back to the basics today. So we're gonna talk about weight loss and I want to know when it comes to weight loss basically I know we just kind of talked about the foundation of the six steps and it does deal with weight loss in it but like now we're gonna just like it's about we overcomplicate things. So how do you bring it to where someone can really start understanding the process of weight loss and it's still figuring out their why in the weight loss but there's just so much more. Yeah, weight loss, there are a lot of people I'm kind of the last resort person. Yes. Like a lot of people come to me as the last resort you know I've tried everything so I'm coming to you because you always make it work and I find I always just look straight at the gut. If they have like I've had people coming that have tried to lose weight for six years and nothing has worked, nothing and they've tried everything and so if they say they have tried everything and I find out that they've tried yo-yo dieting and yada yada, I look straight to the gut and if there's an imbalance of gut bacteria or an overgrowth of candida then that will prevent the body from efficiently and efficiently losing any weight. So I find that's usually and the candida cleanse diet like this is a major tip for anybody listening but the candida cleanse diet alone will help to balance the hormones and it will help to lose water retention, it drops weight like it kind of it does everything as well as balance the gut which is the most important part. 120% and that one is a hard pill to swallow and people find that like you bring up the candida and it's like you just feel like you just took their whole their diet away like what they enjoy and then they just feel so restricted and stuff. That's like a whole mindset and like a feeling in itself. So would you people get very discouraged when they hear that or do they feel like oh finally something like what do you find when you tell somebody that might be that? I don't discourage anyone and I don't agree with taking anything away. So what I'll do is start them just very slowly and we'll make small changes and how do you feel about that change and is it upsetting to you and why? And I look all like thinking, breathing and moving are in that order specifically because thoughts really do run the show in someone's body. Totally, I'm gonna interrupt that right there because most people don't even know what candida is. Right, so we all have candida it's a healthy gut bacteria but it tends to grow out of control with the modern Western diet. So any kind of sugary substance, candida will feed on that and it tends to proliferate and it just gets out of control and does its own thing in the body packs on extra weights and water and it's just entirely unfair. So this is like most carbs, starches, candy, noodles, like all that stuff. Yeah, it's anything with a sugar content. So the GI index for anyone listening, basically that's a chart that shows you how quickly a specific food substance is converted into sugar glucose in the body. And anything that's high and converts quickly to sugar or has more sugar in it will feed the candida. So it's just about getting all of that out and then rebalancing. And so I kind of had, I went through this first for myself because I had candida, I had the overgrowth and it was causing my eczema and my psoriasis and my acne and my moods and it was insane how much it was impacting. And so I really started it for myself and I felt restricted and I felt depressed with the diet. So I just started a fun, now it's a fun hobby but I hack recipes and people's favorite things to be candida friendly. So in that way, I try to make it as easy as possible. Yeah, because you definitely know what it feels like and that's like the last thing you want at the end of the day is just like, especially if you had stress and you're stressed but you don't want, you still want to feel comfortable and be comforted and like some people do it through food but you made it fun so that like it can actually be okay and you can still get the best of both worlds. I did come across, so Kelly has a great YouTube channel. If you haven't saw it yet, it's called Kick It With Kelly. I totally recommend it. She does a really good job, very entertaining as well, it's not dry. She definitely has a good sense of humor with little fun, little gifts and whatnot but at the same time, it's so educational and it's like real life. Basically, her going to the airport, showing what to eat, basically talking about the six optimal foundations of health and basically everything else that you would need to know in order to help yourself through weight loss and so much more. But I just wanted to say like that, if you want to find out more about the candida, she definitely does have a channel, her channel and there is a couple of videos that are definitely defined that will help you through that because that is one of the biggest things for when it comes to weight loss. So I just wanted to say that you're doing such a great job. Thank you, I appreciate that. Yeah, the videos, I started, I do speaking engagements and I just, I couldn't, the more people I was able to reach speaking were changing and we're getting healthy from listening to the talks. And I thought, how can I reach more people in a broader way from all over the world? And I thought, okay, YouTube, I'll just give all of my tips and info on YouTube and it's so much fun for me as well. Yeah, you could definitely tell me you have a lot of fun with it, you do a really good job. Yeah, so when we are talking about the basics, candida is one of them like for basically, is that how you start like doing a cleanse through or like taking them off? I don't really start with the candida, I kind of look at their whole life and then if I think candida is driving everything, we go very slowly into it and I'll change some things and I'll ease them in and then we'll go gung ho together, I'm always doing it together with them because I don't believe in like, here you go, bye, here's your program because it's so hard for many. And so, yeah, I get them into a one month cleanse and usually the goal is quickly reached after that one month. That is awesome. And especially when like you have a good group like that to work together towards it. So basically what else, like with the foundational things, you would explain the six and you break it down into three each. Is that a part of the 21 day? The 21 day, okay. So the 21 day reset that I designed that because I did the candida cleanse for myself and then I was noticing all of my problems being fixed. So I kind of went above and beyond the candida cleanse and I developed a 21 day program that really does, it will reset a person's body and gut back to a healthy baseline. And that way it just fast forwards them way, way, way quicker into the process of reaching whatever goal. So there is no, there's a lot of education included in the 21 day challenge. I call it a 21 day challenge because it is challenging. But there's a lot of education there on the six principles but the challenge is really more so driven towards the diet aspect. And then if someone like the challenge is not individualized, that's the only problem. It's just kind of like, okay, this, there is no one size fits all but this 21 day program will help anyone reset their gut and reset their bodies. So if someone wanted to go beyond that into a more individualized approach, then they can go into the next program up which is the total body reset. And that one, I look at all aspects of their lifestyle. So what, when people are looking at you and they see your lifestyle, like, you know, what is it like that got you into this? I know you went through all this stuff on your own but like, you know, there was so much, like everything starts from your childhood. Like, did you ever like have that, like did you go through that awkward period? I definitely had the most awkward period ever. Oh my gosh, I was such a sickly little kid. I was so sickly and I had a lot of inflammation and I had tonsillitis all the time. And yeah, I just, yeah, all of the problems really developed throughout my childhood and just presented themselves once I had reached my late teens and early 20s and there was definite awkward stage. I think we all have that. We definitely do, definitely do. Like would you link that to like a lot of like what's happening now with like stress and whatnot? Absolutely, and some people I even find I go right into prenatal infant development stages and I can seek out a lot of issues that have happened later in life from when the person was in the womb which is really interesting. I get sick. That is really interesting. Can you tell me more about that? Yeah, so basically everything is energy and everything is vibration. And so if somebody comes to me and just as an example, they're in their 40s and they have some challenge that, you know, I've tried everything on my end to help them get through. I look at, okay, what was going on when you were in the womb? And I do some physical tests with their body to find out how their body is moving. Infant development, once they are born did they have a jolly jumper because a jolly jumper will have many negative impacts on a person's body later in life. And then I take their body through infant development exercises that they should have done, you know that their body should have done for the nurse to properly myelinate and function when they were growing as an infant. And I bring that back to baseline and that helps too. But with the energy and vibrations if the mother was going through a seriously stressful time when she was pregnant that can often impart into the child into their mindset and their brain. And sometimes babies are actually born in a sympathetic dominant state which means their fight or flight nervous system is strong and it creates a chronic stress response that they might be unable to figure out but really what was going on with the mother. So yeah, it's a whole rabbit hole but it's just one of the most interesting aspects of what I do, I think. That so sounds interesting, like especially, I don't know, like part of me wants to go down this rabbit hole but part of me is just like maybe it's like another podcast episode with you. I am very intrigued about the Jolly Jumper. Cause- Oh yeah, the Jolly Jumper, when you put a baby in a Jolly Jumper, a baby really needs to crawl and learn to walk on its own. It's not meant to be put into an upright vertical position when it's going through those stages because the nerves actually myelinate. What that means is that the nerves are becoming covered by a sheath that tells the body how to function. It's kind of like signaling mechanisms. And so if you put a baby vertical into a Jolly Jumper and it's starting to use those movements, the nerves actually aren't forming properly. And so I get people that have a funny walk and that walk will, maybe they'll have sciatica or maybe, you know, it doesn't matter. There's all kinds of different things that show up but I can always tell once I go through the exercises, I just say, you know, were you a Jolly Jumper as a kid? And they'll say yes. Or I'll be walking down the street and I'll see someone in front of me walking in a crowded mall or whatever, thinking, oh, they had a Jolly Jumper when they were a kid. Oh my gosh. Like, did that just come across your research? Like, how did you find out about that? Basically every schooling I went to, some places taught nutrition and some taught movement. And none of them taught very, very, very in depth. And I started noticing that the textbooks given by these schools were actually funded by General Mills, which is a Monsanto partner. And I thought, okay, that's skewed information. So where can I get the proper information? And I found the Czech Institute in California. And it has since become the leading holistic health institute all over the world now. And through that institute is where I got, I went there for six years to learn all about holistic health. That's where I learned the infant development stuff. And then I just went on to Ryerson for two more years after that to learn integrative health, which means, you know, where does allopathic health, regular family doctor health, where does that meet holistic health? Because I really do believe that there's a place for both. And I like to- Oh, I agree with you there. Yep. And so I kind of got, most of my information is from the Czech Institute. Yeah. And I'm like, wow, that is, I just know so, like, because I just know so many people that definitely use a Jolly Dump Jumper. But like, it's just like, sometimes, like I understand why that they do. It's just like a nice way to do to put the kid on there so that you can kind of get a few things done in the house, but then they're also getting some exercise. Like it's- Yeah. And the kids, the babies really enjoy it. It's just- They do. Oh yeah. They're so happy. Yeah, definitely. Do you have like- Do you have a suggestion, like for like an alternate thing for people to use or? Well, I always go playpen. If you need to contain the baby, like some people use the Jolly Jumper so that they can, because it sits in a door frame. So that way they can walk around their kitchen and talk to their baby as they're cooking and whatever. So I would say if you need to keep your baby in one spot, I would use a playpen or one of those little chairs that sit on the counter. I can't remember- Or the bumbo or something like that. Yeah. Other than that, put the baby gates up and let them crawl around because them crawling and standing and walking on their own, it doesn't matter how long it takes. The one problem is that there's a lot of parents and of course you'd be so proud that your baby started walking before anyone else's baby. You know, like my kid is already running across the room. But it doesn't matter how long it takes. Some children will take a lot longer to get into the walking and running mode than others, but that is truly for them the best way to do it. So let them crawl around as much as possible and walk around and crawl up on things. And you know, it's obviously watch them because they'll go anywhere, but yeah, that's the best way to do it. Thank you so much for saying that and bringing that up. I'm sure a lot of people are gonna have a lot more questions about that for sure because honestly, I've never heard that before. It does make sense as you talk about it, but you just never hear any of those types of news ever. Ever. That's what I meant by me being the eternal three-year-old and asking why. Yeah. You know, jolly jumpers are harmful, okay, but why? And I'll just go right to the very end with everything. Is there any other things that you've come across that you've seen that you really went down the rabbit hole of finding why that you were surprised about? Yes, it's hard to even pinpoint because there are many, okay, so sciatica, that's something that a lot of people deal with. I have actually never seen a person continue having sciatica once we fix their gut and not their gut bacteria issue, but do they have inflammation in the small intestine and the colon? So basically, the sciatica shares the same nerve distribution as the colon. So if the colon is inflamed, somebody will have sciatica. And so 99.9% of the cases of sciatica are actually coming from a food intolerance situation. So that was kind of mind-blowing. That, if you don't mind, I would love to talk about that because I do know a few people that are going through that and they do try some of the diet because I do believe that a lot of it does from inflammation in the gut and I've read a lot about that too, but what is it that it's, what's one of the biggest things that like many people don't know when they're trying to work on the sciatica and they're trying to get rid of that through the diet? The most inflammatory substances are alcohol, primary. Most inflammatory substance in the world is alcohol. So I tell people to avoid the big five. So that's alcohol, gluten, and gluten is anything with wheat, barley, and rye, corn, soy, and pasteurized dairy. So once they avoid those, and gluten doesn't affect every single person, but it is, wheat, barley, and rye tends to be inflammatory in many, many, many people. Even if they don't necessarily have a gluten intolerance, the wheat and the barley and the rye is still highly inflammatory. And so if they come off of corn, soy, dairy, gluten, and alcohol, then we go in and add things back in slowly once every four days just to make sure we know which one is the culprit. So I usually start with those because those are pretty generic. Do you have to dive in deeper sometimes because sometimes they'll still struggle through sciatica even though they've cut out that in their diet? Sometimes. If they don't heal through one of those, I tend to look at eggs because a lot of people have issues with eggs and don't know. And eggs are obviously one of the easiest foods to eat. We all, not we all, but a lot of people eat eggs in many of them. And so I do look at egg intolerance after that. And then it really just, then if it's not eggs and it's not any of those five, I haven't actually encountered that yet. So I would put other things. Very interesting. That is awesome. So for you, when it comes to weight loss, and the mindset's a big one. So that's another one I wanna talk about today because I find that a lot of people sometimes have the right intention but they don't have the mindset. And for me, when I definitely went through my stuff, I'd lost the weight, no problem, but I still saw myself as the same person and whatnot. So, and because the stress is such a big one these days, and it does deal like I think internally causing inflammation as well in your tummy because it's like how we feel, how we feel. And so we hold on to a lot of toxicity. How do you work with people when it comes to the mindset? Like when you're trying to change their lifestyle, do you do it one habit at a time? Do you use it slow? It's based entirely on the person. Some people, I would never suggest anyone to change more than three things per week. That even psychologically is the max that anyone should because it's just too much otherwise and something else will backfire. So I start with three things per week at the minimum or maximum even. And if that's too much, I tailor it back. Stress is the leading cause of inflammation in the gut prior to alcohol. So I would say stress and alcohol, stress causes leaky gut. And based on the person, what they're doing and like where is their stress coming from? I'll go individually into that. But there are a couple of tools that I use. There's a coin drill where someone can carry around a coin that is significant to them. And psychologically, if you have something to physically, tangibly hold, it helps rewire the brain. So basically what I'm doing with people is rewiring their neural pathways. And so I use a coin, but just to give you an idea, each brain cell has hundreds and hundreds of little receptors coming off of them. So you can picture them like little tiny antennas on a cell and each of those is specific to one particular emotion, whether it's embarrassment, anger, it doesn't matter every single emotion and there are hundreds of them. If someone is predominantly negative or stressed as our cells divide and recreate themselves, the new cell will have more little antennas specific to the negativity on it or that specific worry. Say someone's worried about their child, there this new cell will be programmed to worry about that child because the brain's trying to be efficient, but it kind of shoots us in the foot sometimes. So what I'm doing is I use just different tricks and tools to rewire these cells, rewire the neural pathways and get the cells reproducing. It takes about two months to notice change when it comes to mindset. And so I always tell people, keep patience, but basically the coin, if they get a worrisome thought or a negative thought or a stressful thought, there are two sides to every coin. So you think about the stress of the worst case scenario and then what's on the other side of that coin? Like what's the best case scenario? And if they can't get there, I tell them to imagine the rim around the coin as a third side just meaning the potential of getting there. So if it's too much to picture, not having that worry because it's just so big, I can't picture being without it, then we talk about, well, what is the potential there? And the program is just so individualized. It just depends who the person is and what their concern is. I like that. I've never heard, like I make sense the two sides to every coin, but it's like that it does bring the intention out. Cause so do they hold it or do they keep it in their pocket? Like is it just like- You can keep it in your pocket, but what I did is, and I thought it was so silly, like I learned it from Paul Chek who founded the Chek Institute. And I thought it was so silly. I thought, what is this silly coin? Like there's not gonna do anything. And I just, whatever I carried it around in my pocket and I would just touch it. And as I was touching it, it would force me to think about, okay, what are these two sides? And then eventually you don't need a coin and you just automatically start doing it. Training yourself. That is really cool. I love that. Like I did something similar, but I wore a bracelet or I wore a necklace. Like just something that would just always bring me back if I touched it or whatnot, but like a coin me technically sometimes, I don't know, I always have coins in random pockets and stuff like that. And so that's more tangible to have something to make you think about that. That's a really cool idea. And the negative receptors, like where it's just amazing how it can just be a downward spiral when you start thinking and you just, you bring like more connectors to think about that. So you're basically minimizing as you go along holding that coin and getting to like basically peeling back the onion pretty much. Yeah. And another really, really powerful one is to write out, if you have a main concern, like for example, somebody might say, I just will never lose weight. Everyone else can lose weight, but I won't. So their belief, I'll get them to write down. Cause neurologically, if you write something by hand, it actually rewires the brain much faster and much more efficiently. And so I get someone to write down that main belief, I will never lose weight. My body won't lose weight. And then the second line, what is all the evidence you can think of? I don't care how many pages you need, but what is the evidence you could think of to contradict that? That's obviously not true because of this or because everyone's different and I haven't found what works for me or I really haven't tried everything. And then the third statement being I can lose weight. And in that way, you are actually physically rewiring the neural pathways. Yep. And that's the hugest part is the belief system that we all have. And finding your worth in that belief system because I don't believe in the statement if you could fake it till you make it. I don't believe in that fully. I understand that, I understand the concept of it, but there's just something that just has a negative connotation that I feel towards it because I don't feel like you're being who you are in that moment. You're kind of forcing something. I understand that you have to get yourself out of that comfort zone. So it can be such a mine in regards to that too because it's like you're playing back, that back and forth, that coin pretty much. So I like that. Yeah, basically it's just challenging your belief system. So yeah, fake it till you make it. I don't, I understand the concept, but I also don't necessarily agree with that because it's the emotional response that creates the actual change. And so if someone is faking that they feel amazing today and you know, if I fake it enough and smile enough, it'll be true. And, but are you getting that real emotional response on the inside? You know, because that's what's driving it. And it can create a backwards effect where it can cause more frustration and more stress because you're, you're just making yourself notice that you're not feeling okay that whole time. Yeah. Totally. And get it in like when you're by yourself and you're trying to get out of that it's really hard to do. It's hard to get out of that because like you haven't really trained yourself that really well yet to even understand like that feeling of where it's coming from and why and all the kinds of, if you don't even know any of that, that factor, you just know that how you feel and whatnot. Yeah. And patience. I always, always tell people to please be patient because just like a train track in railroads when we're talking about neural pathways if a train is going to, if a new track is being built for a train, the train will not run on that track until the track is completed. And so people say, you know, I'm monitoring my thoughts all day long. I'm writing down my beliefs all day long and I'm doing all these coin exercises and I'm getting frustrated because nothing's changing but the cells haven't divided yet. And so I always tell people it takes two months of consistency in order to get, in order to notice for that train to start going on the new track. Yeah. And that, that, sorry. I'm excited because like you just basically nailed that right in the head and stuff like I know that they know it's not an overnight success but even like two months from now, even four months right now, you kind of, you're only gonna get better as the process goes along and stuff like that. And the thing is it doesn't ever really go away. You just get really good at understanding like, oh, and then you know how to switch that and flip that coin and to think of the opposite as opposed to that. Because like, again, it's like it's something that is like, we have to tap, like we haven't really tapped into and when it's new it's kind of scary because like your thoughts can go all over the place. You don't know who, sometimes you don't even know who you're talking to to be honest in that process when you're feeling that. So I just think that you nailed it there where it's like, it's something that we constantly work on but you only get better as time goes on and like you'll know how to work through it even faster and faster and faster. Yeah, for sure. And that, there's a quote and I might totally butcher the quote because I can't, I might not get it right. But basically there's no situation that's an actual problem. It's how we're viewing the situation that creates the problem for us. And so eventually it's not that people are like, oh, well, I'll just have to live with this problem and I'll be fine with it. It won't be a problem to you anymore. The situation might still be the same but you're not gonna have trouble with it anymore. Yep. This is a personal question but I think it's one that many people I think do deal with. When someone's working on themselves for instance, I have my parents and whatnot and they definitely can be more of the ones that can be more of your naysayer than can be more of your cheerleader in that because they're not understanding the process. They're learning a lot for themselves like most of the time and they don't even know that you felt like certain those certain ways like especially when you're starting to understand yourself and you're like going through that transformation what happens with your clients when they come to you and I don't know if it's like through their personal circle. Like how do you help them through that to understand because when we're talking about back to the basics right now that is a part of the basics that you are learning when you're kind of learning like your new self and whatnot and you're like, wow, I didn't really realize that like I'm stirring a lot like of heads right now where like they think I'm obsessive about this like I'm too like too much of something is not good. Like they bring that into the mix. What do you tell how you help them through that? Basically it's I always point to what is the concern or what is behind your concern about what other people think because honestly it always seems to and I don't wanna label everybody of course but it always seems to in my experience boiled down to fear of what other people think. Like what if you don't go out drinking with your friends on the weekend are they gonna think you're a loser or you know and what if you're going against your parents value system that they raised you with because it's become an unhealthy religious dogma for you as an example or you know like you really have to consider what is your concern about what other people think? Are you worried about being rejected? Are you worried about upsetting your parents and then it's really about having conversations with them like crucial conversations. I love that and it's so true. I just wanted to see what your thoughts were in regards to that because that is a part of the personal journey when you're going through a transformation is that you're coming across all the you feel like there are barriers at the time like oh I have another thing I have another thing but as much as sometimes it feels like it's a barrier you're only learning more about yourself and who you are and you're standing up for yourself you're learning to have a voice you're learning to have permission to say no you're learning all these new things apart and this is like sometimes a part of the journey is like yeah learning how to deal with it and to basically communicate how you feel and then from to come from a feeling like in saying you make me feel like this when you do this instead of saying you know you did this to me you don't it's not about coming across that way it's basically coming from a feeling because that's more understanding. The rule of thumb I like to use is you talk to people or you should talk to people about your thoughts needs and feelings because if you're telling someone you're having a specific thought that is yours and you know it's not up to anyone else that you're having this thought and your needs that's fair to all of us and what are your needs like you know I need you to maybe you're uncomfortable with what I'm doing but I really need you to support me in this and not one person is gonna challenge that you know because we all everyone they do love us people do love us and so it's just about really asserting yourself with your wants needs and feelings and and yeah that in that way you remove that sort of blame energy of you're doing this and you're and to say to someone I wouldn't say to someone you're making me feel I would say you know I'm having these feelings when I'm around you and maybe you can help me you know figure that out. Totally it's like this is where the vulnerability is such power like you're pouring out a different like you're coming out from a different place you're trying to understand it and that vulnerability is like can really stop us because it's like you don't know where it's gonna go and how the other person's gonna feel so it's kind of one of those like these like awkward moments but yeah that's such it's an important part in your in your development especially when you're bringing it back to the basics and this is this is the stuff that either I don't know about you so correct me if I'm wrong but this is the stuff that can make us continue on the journey of our transformation or stop us because it's just too much. So yeah that's it's probably the biggest roadblock with people and one of the questions in the questionnaire is what is your support system like tell me about your support system and who are they and what is their relation to you and you know and then that way like same thing with losing weight say there's a mom with three kids and a husband and she needs to go on a candida diet that's challenging when it comes to you know cooking a meal for dinner for the family and so I really look deep into every one of their most personal connections in a way that I can make it the easiest possible for them like well I can't just sit here and eat this and my kid and I'm cooking food for my kids and my husband that looks way more delicious so I kind of just I help them in all areas. That's a big one because especially if you're like just say on your monthly friend and you're feeling that and you're seeing that oh my god. It just causes fighting really. Definitely. You make me feel. Oh man I totally would feel that way for her. But that's a really like the support system is like a really big one to depth and like you need to you start learning it you start learning about yourself start learning who's there for you and who's not and you learn how to work with it and in the best way possible because yeah again when someone's on a like you know trying to go on a diet and yeah and the husband's eating that like the husband had definitely sometimes have to understand a little bit too where she's coming from and maybe eat it at work or you know or not or just switch it up for like here and there not to have it every night or something like that like just work together as a team. Yeah or like here's a here's a hacked recipe for that very thing. Do you maybe want to eat this version with me for the next three weeks? Yeah but one really cool thing I want to mention on that that that people don't tend to think about because we're all concerned with our connections but if you stick to your guns in kindness of course and go through this with people they you would be so amazed at who you end up attracting into your life that's new that is supportive of your new life. It's so cool it is so cool how that happens because everything is energy and vibration and when you have made a decision you change your whole vibration and energy and people are drawn to you that are of like minds then and so you keep all of your wonderful connections but you can make amazing new ones that are in line with your new life. That I love that you just mentioned that that's such a huge takeaway right there and it's true and the thing is when you keep doing that a lot more you get more excited about it and you want to stick with it a lot more you're so right there that was a big one. Yeah and people around you will start when I did my journey you know my mom was very awesome and accommodating when I was over at her place and so she would eat with me that way and all of a sudden she was like oh my gosh like I'm feeling so much better. I'm losing weight. Like you start impacting and indirectly impacting those around you to feel better as well. I love that. I'm totally gonna leave it there because I believe that you know out of this conversation today it's just basically understanding your gut health and figuring out you know what's working for you and what not. Again Kelly has a great YouTube channel that talks more about the Candida the six foundational principles of optimal health and it is going always back to the basics having that support system like everything that we just talked about is about simplicity and simplicity when it's so simple you'll do it. When you be over complicated that you get discouraged a lot faster and you don't tend to stick with it because it doesn't feel as natural. So I love what you had to say today. I thought this was amazing. I definitely think that you're doing such a great job. Kelly how can people find out more about you? So the website is kickitwithkelly.com YouTube is kick it with Kelly. I am kick it with Kelly with dots in between each word on Instagram. My email is kelly at kickitwithkelly.com and we'll have all this in the link below as well. And basically right now I'm on my way to a thousand subscribers and when I reach a thousand I have a software that randomly picks one. So it's unbiased but one person will get a completely individualized program for them. Yes, yes that is one of the things that you wanted to talk about today maybe just give people like an idea of what they can expect with the program. So basically the program would look at all areas of your life and would look at what's going on in your body, what is coming down in the line for you in the future health wise based on how things are right now and what is, how is what's going on affecting the other parts of your body and it looks at just your whole lifestyle. So yeah. Nice and that's like again you heard how important it is to look at everything because mind, body, the fitness, physical, internal all that everything's connected and when you start understanding yourself and the connection a lot more you're gonna be so much more happier. Thank you so much for being on here today Kelly. Thank you so much. That was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed talking with you. All right guys I am sending you guys so much love till next time and that's always the only way to get this podcast out is you. I thank you guys so much from the bottom of my heart because it would not be where it is without you guys. 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