 Welcome back to White in the Morning. This is that day that we discuss legal tenders or money matters for that matter and we just had Sharon Degua who's an entrepreneur and she's passionate about Nutritious baby foods, but for now we have an artist in studio is all the way from Embo County And is making money from his hands. Thank you very much. All right. Your camera is number four and I give everybody a chance to introduce themselves. So you know the drill Okay. Okay. My name is Moha Salim But at most now for my work. I use Salim Art Tribe in IG and In Facebook, you can find me at Moha Salim Salenco Twitter too, you can find me at Salim Art Tribe. All right. So you're a pencil artist or a general artist? I'm a pencil artist, but I can I'm venturing into general art You're venturing into general art. Yeah, but did you have to go through any? Formal training to be an artist? No, it's natural. It's natural. This is talent that you were born with. Yeah All right. I'm really interested in this picture right here. This is our first picture of the day by Salim and Tell me about this picture before I tell people about it. Okay. This is the one who invited me for the show so like I just I I like appreciating people who Appreciate me. All right. You like appreciating people who appreciate you and today I've heard much in who's my producer and Director for the day being called handsome cut as you have this picture All right. So how long did it take you to make this piece right here? This piece around Yesterday one when Kenya was beaten by Senegal the first goal I started this picture Wow So yeah, the inspiration comes from somewhere Yeah, so I finished it when I was outside before coming for the show. Yeah, I feel all right. So you finished it here Yeah, so, uh, is this the average time that you need to complete a portrait? personal art like this one. No, it depends with a with a Quantity all right on the on the image Let's say like the details on the image. Yeah, the details on the image. All right. Yeah, so I'm pretty sure before you converted this to business. Yeah, that it is as a passion You just drew in for for fun, right? Yeah, what point did you say I can actually make money off this? Let me go sell this. Okay. Yeah, it was in back in from to It's when I saw some phone force drawing images of people and I also had that Passion that I can also do this. So I started by doing myself And after that I do the school principle and after that he paid me a thousand Wow, so this was your first Supporter, yeah, your first customer. Yeah, and from there I started charging that a thousand for a portrait But I didn't use to frame them by then So I just used to so this is something you've learned as you grow your business. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, all right So after drawing your principle, this is and then you appreciated you didn't even ask for money Yeah, I this is how you knew you you can make money off this Yeah, and when you went out of school, you started making money off this Yeah, so how do you get your clients like do you just throw random pictures and just go sell them to clients or? People make orders People people first of all people around me support me my brother as my family and And people from outside too. So I had this idea that I can use social media to to To push yourself or push yourself push myself So people go to see my work and others liked it others encouraged me to do more practice and By that I used to get my customers. All right. Are you satisfied with what you're doing right now? No, truly When I talk satisfaction, I'm pretty sure you want to improve your yeah Your skills in the details in the drawings and everything. Yeah talk satisfaction Are you happy with the line of of what you chose? Yes, I'm happy. You're happy. Yeah, that is the answer. I was looking for all right other people happy for you People tend to criticize and ask what you're doing with your life no, actually People surrounding are very positive. Mm-hmm, and they really encourage me to do more of that do more of it Yeah, so art is can be a career in Kenya right now as we speak Right now, actually it is it is yeah, I can say it is because I Can see very very very many people are ventured into it and taking it very seriously right now Okay, so you can vouch for art for sure. Yeah, what if I for channel on Twitter? What if I for underscore channel on Instagram and what if I for on Facebook is the way to interact with us? Never ever forget to tell us where you're watching us from and please tell us how please remember to Include the hashtag why in the morning and hashtag entrepreneurship Tuesday We have salem all the way from Ember County was a pencil artist and it's making some buck off it So yeah, I'd like to I'm really interested in This one right here Yeah, yes, what is happening here? Who's this? That's my dad. This is your dad. Yeah, all right Yeah, he's in this. Yeah, he has seen that. All right. What does he think about this? Yeah He gets very very excited and he really supports me really supports. Yeah, actually He's my motivation. Let me say my role model. You know model. Yeah, so Yeah, I Know Just becomes most strong Yeah, I can tell the resemblance by the way, yeah, and Now that is Lillian molly. Yeah trying to sell myself in big Big audience. Yeah, I'm a big audience. All right. So this is a strategy, right? Yeah so in every business you have to have a strategy and in your in your outside your strategy is getting Drawings or public figures that people can relate to and people can say oh This is actually Lillian molly. This person can get to draw me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Because if people get to see just an image and they don't understand what it is So they can't really trust you that you can't do this So but if I draw such people they get interested into it Knowing that I can't really you can actually deliver. Yeah, I can't deliver. All right, Lillian come for your piece right here It's it's in my hands and we can negotiate the price Yeah They are others to the others you are others in yours. Yeah You're sketching. Yeah All right, so I have a little house on there. All right Really beautiful This is strictly pencil. Yes Pencil and colored pencils to pencil and colored pencils. Yeah, so though the Lipstickers done using a colored pencil. Yeah colored pencil. All right. Yeah, and right now you can get every shade. Yes Right now I can get it every shade in the shops. Yes. All right living. Oh, this is bad man shivo Till the brown come for your picture as well I'll give you a good price at physical It's in my hands right now. Yeah, so Yes, living in this information age where we have social media. Somebody actually told me we're living in era where Somebody a doctor can resign from his job and say I want to be a graphic designer Yeah, and go to YouTube and become a graphic designer. Yeah. Yeah. How was you to help you in doing whatever you're doing or other social media platforms? like Let me say what's up, or maybe Instagram Trans into what's up? What's up? Do I say all the way dynamic is a good business caught up caught up caught up first of all, I Just involved myself in getting into many groups Good groups Meaningful You just post your work there and you'll get people Texting you in books. So like how much do you do this? Well, so When I started I really didn't have the desire to get much what? what pushed me pushes me To to better places is Considering the fact that I just want to prosper you want to prosper. Yeah, so when you were starting you just wanted some pocket money Yeah, but you figured you can actually make this an empire and not even pocket money also customers. Also customer Yeah, considering the place I come from let's say humble humble for now. I can say it's a place where people Do not really appreciate art Yeah Artists are struggling in Nairobi But in a boy can say there is an opportunity because people like me a few then a few People with such good work. You can find the others who do it, but At a higher price than me, but my work is better than them. So you have actually studied the market Yeah, you know the dynamics of doing I Like and I also consider my customer. Yeah, yeah, I consider who is this So like if it's a person who can give much I'll ask for that All right So you all you're trying to say is there's a community on what's up and you can actually tap into this What's up and make money and do business on what's up? Yes And yeah, I've also created like a broadcast in my what's up each time I complete my work I send like to all my contacts. So by that, I know they they also send it to others They also sell me outside there. Why so and by By that actually most of my customers comes as a result of I was told you draw Yeah, so what a mouth is also helping. Yeah, what's up? It gets to the water mouth. Yeah, all right, so Another social media platform that you think has impacted your business in a positive way I can say Facebook Facebook is huge. Yeah, all right How does that work for you? You take pictures of your portrait and Post them on Facebook and tell people if you want a piece of this flavor Call me okay in all my platforms. I usually post the work that I've done So like if I did this one and I posted it in Instagram, it will be in all other in all the other comments. It's very important to have it that way. Yeah Including your what's up story? Yeah. All right everywhere. So I ensure that they are everywhere and from there Especially Facebook. They are very I can see right now It's a very small percentage of people who are not in Facebook even small kids in primary school are In Facebook, so I get to propagate my work to very very many people. All right Yeah, there's a light that is peddled around the talent is 20 percent The rest of the work is 80 percent I like to know how much time we spend in creating the work and how much time we spend in marketing and selling Which one beats that I Can say they equalize they they meet someone in the center Yeah Maybe it's a blessing. Yeah, I see my work coming in a good way. You see things coming in a good way So you spend half your time doing the drawing and perfecting your art at the time getting it out there Yeah, would you like to have somebody to get it out there for you and just focus on that or you enjoy doing the mood? I Actually, I I think of Creating my own company Something like that as you can as you heard I'm using the title selling my tribe So I'm thinking of making a big big big company To do some other things apart from art I would also like to venture into interior designing because I have those ideas You have the ideas. Yeah, and you have the hands. Yeah, and you have the artistic mind. Yeah, I can tell for sure All right, so as Somebody's asking why does Othile Brown have lipstick on lipstick. It's not lipstick. Actually if you look at Othile Brown The lips are usually pink. Oh, okay. So this is something you It is a kind of his identity by the way, it's his identity Yeah, all right. So this is something that is very important when Converting some a picture to a portrait Yeah, if someone has a scar if you have a scar I can't remove it to make the picture look Better than you are. No, I have to put it there so that it be you. All right. So yeah the identity It's very important the identity and is it something that you do often every time you meet somebody you look at them You're like We'll talk about that Camera for yeah, so people can check out more of your work as you can Number four social media is a concert Number four my social media. Okay at Instagram. You can find me at Salim art tribe In Facebook you can find me as Moha Salim Salenko and in Twitter too. You can find me at Salim art tribe All right. Yeah, so the vision is more pencil arts and getting into interior design. Yeah, all right Also painting. Yeah, all right painting I've had painters in studio before I've had pencil artists in studio before yeah What have you seen in the field or in the world of interior design? That you think is lacking and you feel like needs to be improved in Kenyan households in Kenya today Okay Okay, I think in Kenya you can you can find that in some homes people people really have congestion So this is Yeah, all right So you get to design in a way that your space in a common in my Kenyans need to appreciate space more Yeah, then they appreciate all these other things All right, so he's in any one of the things we want to Kenya on a coser in what else do you think we can you know? You can come to interior design coming from Okay And every time you say something I can picture a home that I've been to that has everything that you're talking about To calendars, okay, okay, it's a calendar, but you find that I'm to make a kama kumi In the walls the walls need something else to make your home look better Okay, we have art so Kenyan should start appreciating appreciating art. It's that wood. It creates that environment. Yeah, all right Who does a video call in a calendar? Yeah, that's what I wish you They okay, I can say the way the way we eat, you know this This might be the the sitting table Here is where we take our supper here. We take our dealer. Yeah, we have to start To me everything for it's what for for its purpose. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the last that is the last one Actually, that is what I was looking for. These are some things you see you can improve her for Kenyans or Kenyan households At a good price. Yeah, all right. How much do the portraits go for or you said it depends on the person who's buying? Yeah, it depends on the person who's buying but ordinarily I can say around 35 3500. Yeah, ordinarily. Yeah, all right So what is the difference between that one that costs? It costs 3500 to there and that one that costs 10,000 the difference the difference is maybe the quality of the frames that I'll use and the The detail of the picture or let me say The the person's in the picture. The person's in the picture. Yeah All right So the details and the piece of art That is that happens during the process and then the framing maybe Yeah, because of the type of material you're going to use for the framing So these are some of the determinants of the price. Yeah, and shipping maybe come on to a kumballi. Yeah, and shipping Yeah, and maybe the resources that I'll use. So some people usually like colored stuff so When you differentiate between pencils and colors colors are more expensive than the pencils So also that determines the price. Yeah, very important. Yeah, we appreciate you so much. Thank you very much for coming and I'd like to give you a chance to give your last remarks I'm sorry to give your last remarks to the to the viewers out there and your potential customers and they've all be for that I see the the father of Assad and Assad himself. Yeah Why did it when I was in high school before doing my case you see Yeah, all right. This is in high school. Yeah This was after the father of Assad dropped the album So I'm guessing you're quite young. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah All right. So is this somebody you look up to? Not really but I usually follow up their lifestyles and all that You know, we all have the reasons of looking for money. That's diamond platinum. Oh, that's you and Simba Down go to yeah, how did he get to be done? Okay? It was when he was coming for the embo first. Yeah, that's when I got to think of meeting him doing something I mean, yeah, all right. So I will give you the chance to actually meet him and Honourable the MCF 1001 yeah, all right. So MCO one zero zero one so the ones also have done All right, so Did you buy this? No, he didn't buy it. I gave him as a gift Okay, yeah, and I requested for something else Instagram tags Yeah, and all that So favor for favor. Yeah, favor for favor Did he post you in his story? Not really. I've been talking to him and I can say maybe he's held or maybe I Don't know. He's a busy guy You never know but you did your part and you are a fan of this particular person Yeah, all right amazing work you've done so far I also look up to meeting the others the rest of the guys What some of the guys you've met that really stood out for you or that really changed your life That really changed my life. I can't say my bro. Your brother. My brother He has brought me here to all right to the studio. Yeah, he's my biggest supporter. He's my Mentor I can say that all right so far. What is your brother's name so we can give him a shout out? My brother's name always Ways is actually in studio. Yeah, where's ways? Oh You see right there shout it who is Electrogyne Instagram what I'm tough to get like five more followers I don't know what a waste mark away. Yeah, all right follow mark away So social media is supporting artists really hard to find somebody who's supporting this day and age So we support a local artist and mark ways is leading by example. Yes All right. So your last remarks to your potential customers and people want to be like Because it's not easy to get to this point. Okay. First of all in life Have a reason of why you need to to get money. Mm-hmm a meaningful reason, you know, most of the youths imagine of Being rich because they see other people being rich Musicians are driving fancy cars and all that so Have a meaningful reason for you as to why you need to to have money like I remember back in school you got to find that People from most humble backgrounds Were the ones who are really working hard in school Mm-hmm and the biggest reason was to give back to their community to give back to their families. I also my my biggest Motivation is I would like to give back to my society And especially to my to my parents my dad my mom Yeah, like for now my dad is sick. Mm-hmm, and he need me get well soon Yeah, so friends from wine the morning family such such things Encourage me to to look for money. He's watching right now dad. Yeah, I'm sending me Hi, dad And we are praying for you to get well soon by the way Baba Salim and Baba Macquais. Yeah, you're praying for you to get well soon We appreciate you so much and keep doing what you're doing. So have a reason why you're looking for money Yeah, how about a reason why you're looking for a meaningful and a meaningful reason why you're looking for this means that come Yeah, and actually because God knows all everything you do and he knows our hearts. Yeah He knows our hearts if God knows that you just want to get money to to waste it drinks on my eggs. Yeah He can't give it to you so Just have a meaningful reason and you'll have blessings if you have a meaningful reason You'll have blessings and these are very wise words from a very young man who finished high school after The father of a sad drops that is very Reason right? Yeah, very reasoned last year last year. Yeah Joining compass in September. Why does all the wisdom come? The wisdom I can say artists are wise artists are wise. Yeah, I we look at the bigger picture. We think in a different way Thank you very much for coming through. I appreciate you so much We'll come to the end of this Salim you're an amazing gentleman and you're going places for sure Yeah, all right. So entrepreneurship Tuesdays here with us. We have Salim Who's a pencil artist and it's planning to venture into interior design as well? Will you let him experiment with your space? Find him on social media as Salim our tribe Instagram. Mm-hmm. Oh, how Salim Salenko Facebook Twitter again. Salim our tribe All right, and join me. Sasha is coming with another Different kind of artists up next. You don't want to miss this. Don't touch that. Don't touch that out Why two five four Imagine