 What happened? Hello. I don't know. It just I'm totally hung up on my end so I hope that that is not my internet telling me that I cannot talk to anybody tonight because It will be a very boring reveal if that happens. So before we start tonight, we have a very full room here So we're just gonna kind of go around and let everybody say hi and tell us who they are You want to start Karen? Do you want me to go? I'm saying Karen's having problems? Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. I'm Karen Lowe and I served as our team captain during the wikitree challenge trying to keep this organized and Answer questions from participants. It was lovely to see how many folks new to wikitree and new to the challenge we had I'm Veronica on Australia project leader on wikitree along with Julian and also volunteer at the society and Was very keen to get this happening I'm on here I'm an ordinary and fairly new member of the Society of Australian Genealogists and I was happy that my suggestion of James Bourne Was taken up and that's the only one I've been working on. It's also I'm also very new to wikitree I'm brief. I'm the Society of Australian genealogists chief executive officer and I've been really impressed by Veronica and all the team and the team at wikitree who've been able to Achieve some really exciting results with this wikitree challenge and I really hope we can do more in the future I'm Vanessa. I'm the education manager at the Society of Australian genealogists And I did a lot of behind the scenes with Veronica to get ready for the challenge Helping to choose our seven people and also with Daniela Trekk who is having trouble with her microphone So she's just gonna listen in but she is one of our volunteers who helped Veronica a lot with narrowing down the people and getting information together and participating And participating in this And I'm Gillian and I'm a co-project leader for the Australia project and also a member of The Society of Australian genealogists haven't been I've been a member for a couple of years, but it's been during COVID So I haven't been in there too much and Yes special Acknowledgement of Veronica for the huge amount of work she put in getting all of this up and running. It was really fantastic We all had such a wonderful time We did Thank you. Yeah, and you guys gave us a lot to work with you know We've been really excited and like Karen said we had you know new people that joined us in the challenge I know some people are new newer to wikitree and Some are just new to the challenge and it just really was incredible for us to work with you guys and to have you join us this week So definitely a lot of fun now I'm going to go ahead and share my screen for right now and Before we get to the reveal itself with all the good stuff I'm gonna talk a little bit about wikitree because we will have some people out there that don't know what wikitree is so wikitree is the free family tree and Founded in 2008 of course by Chris Whitten The mission is to grow one accurate shared tree that connects us all and it's accessible to all of us forever For free wikitree provides a collaborative environment for evaluating sources and incorporating DNA One of our goals is to have one profile per person That has lived is which is why Coliff collaboration is so key to our success We're excited to say we just passed the 33 million profile milestone with almost 11 million of those having DNA connections Attached to them. So, you know really a lot of fun making those connections and you know part of the collaborating is Requiring mutual trust and a common understanding of how the community works So while everything on wikitree is free those who want to participate at a higher level must agree to our Honor code, which is just a shared code of ethics saying that you know, you're going to be courteous Understanding of other people you're going to try for accuracy. You're going to add sources. You're going to respect people's privacy And then another thing we have is a balance between privacy and collaboration So that living people can connect on the one-world-tree to common ancestors Now we privately collaborate with all of our close members on a modern family history And of course as we go back in time, you know, those privacies open up We aren't as concerned about somebody that you know died over 100 years ago As we would be say our sibling And so, you know, that's where you can really do that deep collaboration Out in the branches where you've got so many descendants or just people that are interested that can work on those profiles and you know Work together and use all of your skills and hopefully find the most you can to honor that ancestor On the right we're seeing just the different privacy levels that are available anything from unlisted Which would be a living person that's not a member to an open profile, which would be one of those I just talked about so Here we go ahead and we're going to start looking at the fun stuff now We worked of course. We partnered with the society of australian genealogists, which you've met some up here now They are a non-profit organization. They've been supporting family historians since 1932 We were joined by some of the researchers for the challenge with them also being active in wiki trees australian project and I have to say I thought it was a really unique and very smart idea to have some of the Australian members go ahead and come in the sag members come in and join the thaw So when we did our first connected thaw in the year, you know Veronica had everybody there and gillian and you know put together And that was their big chance to go out and practice on wiki tree and learn some of the things You know the expectations for the profiles and how to work In our system because it is a little bit sometimes overwhelming at the very start until you just you know find out where all the fun tools are But that was just really smart to you guys and that was a great way to get people used to wiki tree Now we started with seven people. We had seven days And you know boy, did we fit just a ton into that time? So i'm going to go ahead and go to the first one and here we had james born Born about 1774 in county antrim ireland He was convicted in april of 1801 and sentenced to seven years He was age 28 when he arrived in sydney on the hercules, which was one of the most violent transportation voyages and you know, we learned a lot some of us about these um these transportation ships that uh going to the penal colony that we just didn't even know And you know just really fascinating reading so at any rate with him Says there was a mutiny followed by harsh retribution and nearly half the convicts died either from deprivation or by summary justice And the survivors arrived in really poor condition Now in june of 18 to 1802 as hercules was approaching port jackson Captain betz did not even bother to name the convicts who had died in his log He was convicted of manslaughter in sydney and the mutineers were acquitted so james went on to marry mary akins in new south wales and On in 1814 was awarded 100 acres recommended by the secretary of the state For acting as a guide for black slum went worth in lawson. So he had gone out and crossed the blue mountains and um You know really made a life of himself and we saw that a lot where you know these these people that you gave us just really overcame the big obstacles And then karen. Do you want to tell us a little bit about his his branches? That's right when we started the week we only had on our tree We had james and his wife and just one of their children Uh, and during the week we wound up adding a thousand and 83 profiles so He wound up. Uh, we had seven days seven ancestors and we had 1,085 people Seven degrees of james. He's actually Not too far from veronica just 14 degrees and we'll hear About uh, other starting profiles that are quite quite close to james as well We had some fun distinguishing him from uh, the other early james borns that arrived in austria, right? Yes, we did And in fact, I I was just sorting out some of the remaining I was yesterday Yeah, it was quite a bit wasn't it? All that information and you know one of the good things of course, especially for those of us that weren't knowledgeable about the australian research is the research the records there that you guys have are so incredible Um, you know compared to say where they left and you know, there really wasn't a whole lot on them So if you could jump them back over the pond you would find some stuff But not necessarily a lot and the records once they got into austria are so detailed It was great. I just absolutely love to see that Now here we're gonna go ahead and take a look at one of the connected ones to um, james born And this is lily and mabel nettleton packham. So she was born in 1906 in goldburn Her parents william nettleton and jane steward nettleton were also born in new south wales She married sydney james packham in 1929 They had at least two children both boys and she lived to the stunning age of 101 Um, just incredible the life span with her and her father was it was crazy I think it spanned 171 years or something between the two of them. So Really a lot And now her paternal great-grandfather william nettleton was born in australia His wife though was born in england and you know, we did see that a lot too with the diversity between the different people that were there His father joseph nettleton was born in england and transported for stealing a watch Joseph wife ester was born in new south wales the daughter of a soldier that had been sentenced to death For attacking a superior officer Now he was pardoned in exchange for agreeing to serve as a corpsman for the penal colony And he actually retired with a rank of sergeant major And you know once again, it was just so nice to be able to track these people You know, if you didn't have like james born where there's three of them in the same area of the same age You know people like this you get in there and you could just track every step along the way of what their life was and you know, you looked at these um These hardships where they for stealing a watch, you know transported in exile to another country And you know, he made something good of it And it was really interesting the picture there and that one is um jameson that's william jameson and When they took the pictures, I was surprised that we found that but when they took the pictures of all the guys I guess that were the corpsman They made them cover any insignia. So all of them were like that at first I was like, why is he like hanging onto his chest? But when you look through the records, they're all covering up whatever insignia and logo is On the uniform. So that was just an interesting little, you know side note on that But really cool to even find a picture of it And then next one we had was oliver peters haggie So bill does op haggie and he of course was an australian film and theater actor best known for portraying the hermit that befriend is the monster In the film bright at the Frankenstein. So even that though that predates A good lot of us 35 I think, you know, we've all heard of it or and some of us have have watched it at way after the fact And, you know, he was born in angistan south australia. So karen, how did we deal with connections on that line? Yeah, again, um He started the week with just a few family members and also came out over a thousand he had Wound up with 1132 connections within seven degrees, you know seven steps by parent or child or or marriage and uh, he was We we enjoyed finding connections to other actors. He's just 18 steps away from Warren Beatty and And josh brolin. So, uh, he got quite a lot of attention and had great, uh, obituary and coverage in trove in the newspaper records So he was a great fun to research Yeah, and you know, we work hard to look at these connections and try and make as many as possible throughout the challenge We can especially this year because that pretty much is our our theme community connections, you know And every time we make a new connection to the global tree You know, it helps increase the odds that that your connections are now going to grow shorter to that person Or you may even be connected to people you were But for some reason I think haggie was uh, the largest change for a lot of us I know my connection to haggie went uh down by 11 degrees so, you know, it started out a little bit higher and Um, definitely did a really huge jump on that. I went from 31 degrees to 20 So still a very very distant connection But it's always fun to look at those And then off on this, uh on these branches, we're going to take a look right now At auto peters and you know, he was born in 1845 in hamper He was the son of yohan predrick and tom peters His father ran the pub at the victoria hotel Now auto moved to adelaide as a teen and he learned the draper's business So and later opened his own business his own drapery business on his own When his father died in 1870 he took the inheritance with the money from his successful business And it was cute, you know at first they say he retired for anybody that doesn't know about auto peters He retired at like age 20. He had so much money from his dad's business and from his Or his dad's inheritance from his businesses and then plus auto's own business And you know, he sat around for a little bit and he went no, this isn't going to work So he got together with his brother walter and they opened up another drapery business in the northern territory And you know, this of course was also successful What was unfortunate is that auto's luck didn't hold out for much longer In 1873 he boarded the springbok, which took four months to travel from darwin to cardwell in north Queensland And you know, they were trying to detour around pirates and whatever else was out there So it took a while Scurvy and dysentery ran rampant and the captain was later suspended for being an imbecile Which is actually in the records. Um, they said he was an imbecile So, you know, uh, he shouldn't he if he was going to have to take that long of a detour He should have planned for it. So everybody didn't get sick on the ship Now two years later he got uh, he boarded the ss gothenberg And he was returning from darwin going back to adelaide He died along with more than a hundred others when the ship struck the barrier reef in the flinders passage And you know, unfortunately auto was only 30 years old and I know my husband was showing me On the map, you know, just looking at the ocean how huge that reef is. I'm sure you guys all know but for Somebody that's not from from there Just massive he goes, but look honey, you'd still go and clear up here and I'm like, yeah, okay now I see why they crashed the ship. That's that's completely I said what I want to know is how did all those other ships get in there? I mean was it, you know, luck and a prayer or I mean, they were just really good. I don't know I guess the other captains weren't in missiles Something She was a great one. This was just hill and you know, she researched the convicted women in australia And I you know, just learned so much. I mean, I'm just really touched and honored to even be part of the group That was help trying to honor her in her lines Reading about everything that she did and you know, she collected just such a massive amount of data on the female convicts who arrived before 1818 and it really allowed people to go back and reconstruct those early families You know and and once again, I mean just the fact that you guys just have these incredible incredible records from back then and detailing so much And karen's going to give us a connection on her Having trouble with that mute button tonight. Uh getting this Browser, uh, I always like to protect you from Uh, you know the sound of my my beloved hounds or but uh Yes, researching. Jess was a treat. We just I love to honor genealogists by who didn't have the advantages that we Do with online connections and mobile trees We added over a thousand people to just so it was 1066 Connected to her within seven degrees Um, and a lot of justice family is buried in new south wales in the war norah memorial park We found almost 200 people in that cemetery that just is connected to So what a treat to honor someone who's spent so much of her life Uh researching and honoring the women who came before her Yeah, really good stuff and you know, and I know um, you guys will Be looking through some of these profiles later, but uh, you know, I always say that the people on these research teams The wiki tree are always just amazed me they find out so much And you know one of the things that especially impressed me this challenge week is there are so many beautiful profiles out there now um, you know, we we take in everything from Brand new wiki tree or that's a family historian to professional genealogist, you know, we have to spread in our participants, um Because we want them to come in and see how fun genealogy can be and you know and be there to teach them How to do some of the stuff that the more experienced people know how to do But just really nice to see that there were just so many beautiful profiles written on these ancestors And I was looking through, you know at the end trying to figure out who we were going to pick As being in this final presentation and also in the highlights post Because it's a little bit different It was just so hard. There's just so many great. There's just so many great relatives It was really brilliant And well, I hope we've done good. Um Yeah You guys are just so much fun to work for and to work with Uh, we have Isaac Peyton here. He was a master stonemason and he was contracted along with William Watkins to build a female factory at paramana Now in 1784 his brother Samuel Peyton who was also a stonemason Was convicted at the old Bailey in london for theft and he was transported to south wales New south wales in the first fleet And unfortunately hanged for theft in the colony once he got there But you know, I mean times are tough You can't you can't judge what somebody has done in their life because you don't know what they're going through And you know what resources um are and aren't available to them at the time But you know, not that much longer in 1796 Isaac himself was arrested and charged with stealing marble worth 12 shillings From um, thomas carlton. So he stole a marble slab From one person. He stole a little bit of marble from another person One of them was only worth two shillings And in 1796 he appeared at the old Bailey and of course they found him guilty. So They you know sentenced him to seven years transportation And he arrived in new south wales and sydney in 1798 But unlike his brother, you know, he was at least doing somewhat better and making a lifer himself Until such time and you know, maybe one of you can answer this for me Is I kind of wonder how many people that were sentenced like say to seven years Did they ever actually go back to their countries or did they majority of them just remain? I think the majority remain but but some did go back. Yes. It can be difficult to trace but some did go back Yeah, and that you know, that's what I wondered. Um, how many of them look at it and go, oh, sure seven years But what do I do after seven years, you know, I'm there I may not have a lot of money built up. I may have a family established You know, what do you do after that seven years is up? And with him I guess he got to the end of that time and decided he wanted to try and leave the colony So he was found guilty of trying to escape and he was fined 50 pounds and Sentenced a 12 months imprisonment until the fine was paid And Susanna with him was found not guilty as they said she was Under the influence of Isaac Peyton. So I found that interesting that him and his, you know, wife were both trying to escape together And he was the only one that was charged But, you know, it's still once again. Yeah makes you wonder if they just got to the end, you know Thought how am I going to get out of here? I'm going to be stuck here forever Now here on those same lines was Charles Hughes And he was interesting. He was a tailor early in life And, you know, once again, we have something here where we don't know the circumstances He robbed a man that was walking down the streets in Middlesex, England And, you know, of course, England as any of us know is a lot of these migrants in these penal colonies They just thought if they took all their criminals and gave them to, you know, put them on another country's land That their country would be clean and free of criminals and, you know, we know nowadays that that's really not realistic That's not how it works. You know, you can't for one thing You can't just, you know, take the ones that are criminals and for another thing a lot of them really are You know, some of the ones we researched last year you find out that they stole some bread for their children's dinner Or, you know, they stole just enough to buy some soup to feed their kids that one night not all week You know, one night and it just breaks your heart, you know, and It's hard to like group them in with somebody that went and robbed a store or, you know Was doing other criminal activities just for the the thrill of it. These are people that really were just having some rough times Now he was shipped to Australia aboard the Neptune And he did really well once he got there. His Charles as well was written in 1847. He died the following year in 1848 I loved this. He listed his wife All eight of his children His daughter, he listed her maiden name and her married name just in case you are not, you know, looking for one or the other And he even left a cottage to his friend Nicholas Noonham and his wife Harriet So they were even mentioned in the will and you know, I'm sorry, but you look at the early United States wills and It's like I leave this to be split between all my children And then they don't name them, you know, or they say to my wife And here he's giving like full names for everybody and he left this this property Property the cottage generously to this married couple as a wedding gift And you know, one of the great things about what he treats. There's a lot I think I'm biased, but there's a lot is the ability to have these blank pages for a profile And so, you know on the right what you're seeing is one of our people and I know he's in the audience tonight. Hello, Stephen Uh, he's is our main transcriber and he has The patience of a saint he'll sit there and transcribe a document as long as it's in English No matter how long it is he'll sit there and go for pages So he took and he put this four page will Which was handwritten onto a space page and it's linked now to charles's page So you can go to it. You can read through the entire will you can see where which sections the kids were named in where the Wife was named in Um, just a really fun. Yeah, Stephen said hi just a really fun feature of wiki tree that you can do that And I love to see that because not everybody can read, you know, the old person some of it's difficult Now here was another one. You guys picked all interesting people Um, I I'll just say that now. They're all interesting. You know, here we have Adelaide Adelaide Ironside and she was born in Sydney in 1831 She was the first australian woman painter and the first artist australian artists to study abroad So at age 24, she went to Rome and she painted things such as the marriage of conna Galilee The presentation of the magi and the infant jesus And you know some other stuff and she was in her work was shown at the london exhibition of 1862 So five years later. She's preparing to return to australia when she became suddenly ill and passed away in a villa Um Near the eternal city where she had been inspired to create her most important work And I think karen is going to give us Our cc7 which was the hugest one this week. It was a really big jump We started the week with just adelaide and her parents But what I love about wiki tree, of course is we get to leverage each other's research and build rather than You know starting from scratch um, we build on what has gone before so once we Uh merged in some existing lines on wiki tree and we added more profiles She was up to 2100 profiles within seven degrees of adelaide And one of her closest was james born. She's actually only nine degrees from james born they each have a Are related to someone from the oak family A pair of siblings where one one's connected to james and one's one to adelaide We also enjoyed learning about All the other english artists that she might Be close to she was maybe 11 degrees to some up to like 23 To people that she may have studied with when she was In london. I noticed she has pictures in our paintings and in the um gallery of new south wills, but Not in any of the national galleries yet And one of the people we saw she was connected to was charles dickens's daughter katharine who Became katharine pair genie and she was an artist as well Yeah, and it's really fun to look at the connections in that way You know because we looked during the week and we're like, oh we connected this one on the global tree again You know when somebody will tell me oh, I connected this one to that one But when you stop, uh, the way that we look can look at the connections out with the tree now and you're like Oh, i'm bored. I'm just gonna see how many of the she's you know related to and you find out like that that she's You know only eight years different between her and charles dickens daughter who also Painted it really makes you wonder, you know, who the crowds were that they hung out with and who they knew Um, just really fun way to look at things and a little bit different And i'm a talker, but you guys can pop in anytime if there's anything you want to add on these main people I know, um, you guys know more about them than I do I think one of the main things was here though. We're going to go to somebody Sorry, I was just going to say on it. I'll adelaide that I believe there's a big collection in the Go ahead archives in the sag archives about well from adelaide and That that was one of the reasons why she was nominated Oh lovely Yeah, she's done some really beautiful work Now we have Joan Violet Sigrist who is next She's off of adelaide's branches And she was born in 1929 Like her parents were she was only four years old when her father when her mother died Her father had died five months after her birth. So, you know at four years old. She was an orphan along with her two-year-old sister edna And You know, she goes on to go ahead and do something with her life now in her 20s She lived in meadow bank and she worked as a ticket writer And by her 30s, she had moved to oyster bay Which is where she would spend the rest of her life and there she was working as a tracer You know a draftswoman, which is not a common occupation for a female And you know the part that we found interesting of course you guys probably already knew we didn't know Joan was a member of the society of australian genealogists And she was the cartographer for your systematic Transcriptions of all the monumental inscriptions at rookwood necropolis during the 1980s And also the founder of friends of rookwood, which focused on providing practical assistance with gardening and other projects She was instrumental in mapping out the older parts of the cemetery and worked endlessly in the helping hands She died in 1994 and her ashes were placed in the west lay and Rose garden and it was really touching just to see what people had said about her and you know, there are memorials to her You could tell she really touched a lot of people's lives Now here we have herbert john rumsey who was the founder and the first president of the society of australian genealogists He indicated that he had traced his family back to 1199 Where his ancestors were foresters in the new forest when king john rolled england He and his family traveled to australia on um september 7th 1872 and Here and go ahead and give us the grand total for him. He also had a very exciting week Yes, we didn't quite get back to 1199. We thought Mr. Rumsey must have had some some great family sources and information that We didn't have We didn't we couldn't find in our seven days but he had a few family members when we started the week and He has the most now so far that we've talked about 2293 and we were able to find his connection to 37 other members of The society that he founded And then here we have william rumsey now. He was a child of james rumsey and susannah Born in 1815 in baptize Same year in edmonton middle sex england At the time of his christening the family was living in south gate and his father was a servant So, you know, he came from a modest upbringing Now he married in 1840 And to a woman eliza herbert and they had five children together, you know and unlike auto peters He wasn't quite so successful in his business. So he also had a drapery business, but he didn't do well at all And you know, he wound up bankrupt in 1858, which is most likely why the family moved to lemmington spa And you know, one of the really interesting things about this and this was really fun I unique to this challenge Is that his choice of location now? He wound up in millbrook in hampshire england right next door to one of the researchers relatives So, um, he's like literally on that census record there He's right next door to steven buckle who was hillary's ancestor And she was working on the challenge week And so, you know, that was kind of an exciting discovery and really a rarity to find You know such a close connection to the challenge participant That must have been cool to look for him in the census and for hillary to go. I think I've seen this page before And you know, here we had I was really hoping to get a little more input from tl timeline and You know, just because I have to admit that china is definitely not in my field of expertise But he was born in 1850 in shandy village in china His father was a very well-to-do dealer in ornamental wares Uh about 65 miles out of canton At age nine, he came to australia with a An uncle to settle in the braidwood district. He was naturalized in 1871 And you know, he went on to establish a large network of tea shops and dining rooms So he was considered, you know, an entrepreneur at flam philanthropist and a tea merchant And at age 40 he advanced to mandarin fifth degree by the chinese emperor They erected the statue that you see on the lower left And up on the upper right, uh, the picture of him with the family was really cool That was like a last minute donation and you'll see another one too Uh, really nice to get from a family member doing the uh That hosts the family history site And karen, how did we do with our ancestors on this? Well, you won't be surprised to hear that none of us had added any of huang tarts Uh ancestors from china when we started the week It was awfully nice of him to marry someone with a european background We sometimes joke among the members that When we want to get closer to someone we should marry off our children Into a different community so we can all get a little closer On our global tree But we did add several ancestors by scouring the internet and finding some articles written about him in A chinese magazine about uh successful chinese nationals overseas Of which of course he was one So we did add several chinese ancestors his parents his grandfather and i think his great grandfather But within seven degrees he also got over a thousand he was a thousand eighty five Connections within the seven steps Yeah, and just really fascinating to see all the people that connected to him and I know for one of the lines Um tl was saying and this is why I was hoping a little a little bit more from him But he's hard to track down. He's sometimes is um It's such a busy man is that I know he found some of the um ancestral One of the family's ancestral books is supposed to be available And he was trying to get more information on that so And it's true. I was looking at that as well. It's called a jiapu a family register if you watched the The finding your roots with yoyo ma they found his family register and you can That one started in 1372 I believe and we saw in the 14th generation of that record some Folks whose names had a similar naming pattern to his grandfather, but we really couldn't Uh make that jump, you know folks like Like tl are are competent in a number of languages. It's great with those worldwide collaborations and You know folks like me if I I don't speak fluent Japanese, but I can fake it a little bit when looking at documents so so Yeah, getting looking at that family register reaching out to people in university chinese departments, you know, we made some progress But weren't able to pin him down and send him back to 1199 Which wouldn't have been hard if we could Yeah, I think if we You know, I think if we had had more than a week and then y'all made the comment that the research discoveries on his family were really exciting And said, you know, it's going to be great context for the kwangkart collection In the site archives and you know We oftentimes we get we do we get sucked in as Participants and you know the weekends and we're just still down that rabbit hole And we'll still go in and add and add afterwards. So, you know, there may be something else that can be continued along this line Which would be awesome Um, you know, I know there were a couple like that that we just kept going back to Um, I I was in one myself and you know had to ask for a rope to be thrown down So I could come out because it was well over and I was still In somebody's family, but you know those family books for the asian cultures are amazing because they do I mean they go back, you know, way far back And I think they're passed down, you know to the first son of the first son of the first son Um continually and each generation is added. So if you do Have the fortune to find one of those that matches up to your family. You can just trace it back forever And three degrees from him was robert dally scarlet Now robert was born in sydney new south wales in 1887. He was the son of robert scarlet and amily hancock He was an organist at st. Andrews presbyterian church He also conducted the south brisbane city choir and the university of queenslyn musical society And I just love these pictures, you know, when you have the pictures that Really help bring the person to life and you can just kind of see that glint in his eyes He looks like he's got just a start of a smile And you know this and a few other pictures were Provided of course by ross escott and she was wonderful and you know, if I'd had more time I probably would have gotten more pictures out of her But it you know by the time I got a hold of her it was close to time to be getting this done So at any rate robert enlisted in the australian imperial forces service number five nine oh two He was assigned to the army pay corps Detached from the 20th infantry battalion. He saw service in france and attained the rank Um, I was state of the rick of private returning to australia and was discharged in 1917 Now he first married gertrude alice pierre in sydney But after he returned to australia, his wife refused to leave sydney and go with him So their marriage was annulled and he turned around and married joys buckham in brisbane in 1930 And you know music remained a passion of his so he was a professional musician and just a prolific composer Just really interesting to see such diversity in all of the people that that we looked at Here we have dora may teedaman wicks and born in west mainland new south wales Her father was born in prussia. So that was something a little bit different, you know, our mother in new south wales And dora's maternal grandmother margaret was a full-blooded indigenous australian. So Definitely did not have the, um, you know more common ancestry that some of the people around her did And her maternal grandfather was of english descent. So really interesting background there Now her father is connected to 32 other german immigrants. So I found that surprising I know that's not a huge number but you know We when we're looking and all those people kept coming in from england and scottland And then all of a sudden you have this one from prussia and you're like, wait a minute. Why is you know, why is he even going? And I know caren's. I'm excited to tell you how many Connections her team came up with on this line because it was just wild Yes, um, you know, it does pay as an ancestor to have a grandchild who is excited about wiki tree like we all are Uh Dora may was like james burn just nine degrees from our artists at laid ironside and uh, uh was a young mother, um and She had the most amazing increase in connections within just seven steps of her by By her parents or through a marriage through a child. Uh, she's got 4,592 people within seven steps Just crazy crazy wild. I know it just amazes me. Um the sheer amount You know these connections that were made and these people that were honored You know, and this is what we want to do. Of course We want to honor them properly by documenting their lives and you know Kind of help bringing them to life for the next generation to look at and to know them That's right. Her parents were uh, both convicts and like andrew said, uh, you know, transportation was Devastating when you were leaving folks behind in in europe but a lot of people saw it as an opportunity to Start their life anew and and they weren't in any hurry to go back, you know, you could reinvent yourself on the other side of the world and And uh, that's something that dora and her family were able to do Yeah, and you know here, of course I was saying there were several people we continue to work on and so it was really fitting to put her at the end of The people that we've talked about this evening because she definitely was one of those two That you know, it was just really hard for people to give up on they were still researching and For jane hewitt where she was the daughter of convict parents She was only 13 years old when she was married now. She told them that she was older. I believe with her um, but she was it's proven she was only 13 years old and she was only 15 when Uh, the first child was born with her and james krip Now james died in 1841 by which time they had eight children So she continued on and miss jane had 12 children total All with birth certificates indicating that james was the father So even though three children were definitely conceived after he died in 1841 She was very steadfast in not naming who the father was. She insisted it was him and nobody was going to argue with her So that's what the records say Now from 1874 to 1876 she held the license for the traveler's arms in And you know, so she did really well, uh, and went ahead and took care of her children and supported them after her husband was gone She actually died quite a wealthy woman in 1880 And you know here the research is going to carry on because dna analysis is underway right now to identify Hopefully who the biological father is of those three children And you know, this is something when a lot of us started researching And we would have never in our wildest dreams thought you could do this and you know with The changes today and technology and the availability and records and the amazing amount of dna Out there data that's out there and people that have tested You know, we can down we can now do things like this and I really hope I'm waiting excitedly to see what happens, but I really hope that all Well, we don't know if it was you know, just one father that had three children with her or was it three fathers They each had a child with her You know, we we won't know until we get results back But the dna is not going to lie so Yeah, and apologies To dora may's family and julie. I was confusing Our focus person dora may with with our chosen connection here Jane, you know, and and we have such lovely features on the wiki tree to tie our biological family that shows up in our dna testing to our logical family, you know logically in the 1870s in spite of Mr. Crib being gone um And andrew's saying. Oh, yes. Maybe maybe his uh seed was was stored and she was a pioneer of in vitro fertilization Um, but I think this is just society telling us, you know that the the father is who we say it is and then this case Obviously the father of mrs. Cribbs children the widow was mr. Cribb. Who else would have been? Well, and she obviously, you know was a very respectable woman I don't think anybody was going to take the time to doubt her question her You know somebody that was brave enough to raise that many kids and go on to run the inn and You know support her family without having to turn around and remarry back in those days is just it's incredible It's just amazing to me The interesting thing is that most of her money was left at the very last son So, um None of the earlier boys who were still alive got anything So wow Yeah, so it's all very interesting and it's a dna project. Yes, as you say more to come So the biological cribs uh went out but the logical or the alleged uh young young master crib Yeah, and he's uh And actually he's my husband's he's within seven of my husband William William Charles Cribb. So that's why I'm interested Yeah, very very fascinating lady. Um, yeah, I have a lot of respect for And then we had a few more people here that there actually was quite a few that are listed on the space page But I couldn't fit them all in here So we have a few of the ones that are listed. Uh, William Jameson was not the only one that served in any type of military So we had edward endicott. This is the son-in-law of dora teedaman that we talked about He was a gunner in world war two We had douglas davidson who was world war one and the bower war Margaret rayworth hagi. I love this mcfarling and her three brothers james collin and ross all four of them served in world war two Edward agar served in the indian army Keith mccurtry served in the second australian army service corps And just hill of course served in the postal division in brisbane and world war two So, you know really just a lot of great service and support for their country And you know as we say on winky tree, we're all cousins by blood or marriage. So, you know, right now we have 28 million four hundred and forty five thousand nine hundred thirty eight Um cousins or you know people connected to us alive or not as of the 29th of january And then we're just going to go through a couple more quick connections So, you know here we were talking about the connection finder earlier on how easy it is to see You know, you can say tell me if i'm related to the us presidents or tell me if i'm related to You know award-winning actresses And it's just a click of the button and you can find out So once you're connected you can look at this and we looked at a couple of them And you know here again jesse hill was 16 degrees from three of the others. So that would be adelaide Herbert and quang And jesse and quang were connected through jesse's mother's side Where herbert and adelaide both connected to jesse through her paternal grandfather Which isn't as confusing if you're looking at the link you see the chart with the names But you know karin and I were talking earlier and she was saying how It was really cool because a lot of times when you connect to you know a family like we did last year where you just had one family You know all of them connected through your great aunt matilda or whatever But here when we were looking at these different people it was like, oh wait This one is a connection on my mother's paternal line And this one was a connection on you know my father's side with this person And it was really fun seeing all the different paths that we took And you know and also that some of them were quite quite close to the other ones Beed really interesting during the week and we're always big at looking at the connections So here again, we found that james borne was only nine degrees from adelaide ironside and dora mateed men and Adelaide and dora may also share the distinction of being the most closely connected out of all seven of our people They were only separated by eight degrees And then while checking for additional notable connections. So one of our staff members a o and i happened to notice that all four All of our seven individuals shared a connection with the new south wales native Actor david wenham. So, you know, if you're not a lord of the rings fan david played the character pheromer in the books and It's to aowan mary's the character aowan not our aowan Mary's at the end of the book and he had jesse had the closest connection to him at 16 degrees With all of our haggie the furthest at 22, but it's really super fun to You know see all the different connections to people Yes, what a treat that aowan found that now. We'll have to go see how close our aowan's husband Is seven people Yeah I know we all follow our own connections. We'll be like, woohoo. I got it down to 12 degrees Lots of fun now james borne had the closest connection also to an australian prime minister Those are fun doing the politicians at just 10 degrees From the current prime minister, which is scott morrison and Here we have three of our individuals were also 12 degrees from other prime ministers So all of our haggie is 12 degrees from sir george reed We have adelaide is 12 degrees from malcolm turnbull and dorame is 12 degrees from url page So that was really fun to see and Oh Anthea says scott morrison was our previous p.m. Okay I'm gonna have to brush up on my politics here Um, you know, we started out with just four countries to research in we had australia china england ireland And you know in no particular order we wound up researching in australia china england new zealand poland wales scotland ireland germany india usa trinidad tobago france vg canada belgium south africa egypt and deadmark So if you ever want to do scavenger hunt, this is what you can do you get your people to go look for all these countries now Connected to these profiles because our researchers went to all of them. So Uh, really super a lot of fun to see the diversity once again on these people And it just goes to show that you shouldn't skip the week because it's the australian week because as you can see We're around the globe with our research because boy when you count, uh, those marriages and distant ancestors People really get around Yeah, we never know where we're gonna wind up. That's a part of the fun And you know for anybody out there if you have questions about the presentation or about wiki tree in general Of course, you can go to wiki tree dot com and find us And then uh, well the image credits play here I want to take a minute to thank all of the incredible wiki tree years You know, we had more than 65 people that work on this challenge. So, you know, again We had a really wonderful combination of people from sag Uh people that have been doing the challenge for a long time And wiki tree people that were new to the challenge It you know, just really a fun exciting dynamic group Working on this challenge. They found just a ton of discoveries And you know, there's a full list on the space page. Um, you know, and if you guys don't know how to find that I can get that to you or Veronica gillian can get that to you Uh really a lot of fun to do and then I'd like to take a minute to congratulate of course gillian thomas for being our mvp of the week. So she was our most valuable participant Uh, you know, we don't do it for the points, but it's it's fun to kind of see how you're doing and Judge how you're doing against other people and she did an crazy amount of work And then, you know, we had danielle Anonymous last name for being the top bounty hunter. So she got the most of the special bounty points And then of course caron low here for leading such a really successful Week as a captain. Um, it was just all really great Yes, thank you. And and uh, I love to see the bounty points, you know, you don't have to do anyone in or or Kidnap them and bring the back Have to find their ancestry Yeah, we like genealogy bounty I'd like to thank everyone Particularly Veronica because she put in a huge she was really the driving force And I think gillian in the background behind bronica as well But bronica really drove this for the society So I really want to thank bronica for all the effort she put in but also to wiki tree for Giving us this opportunity and we've certainly had an increase in inquiries from our members about wiki tree since the connectathon and the challenge And I know bronica and daniella going to do a workshop for some of our members in a couple months Because there's now a real appetite for them to learn about wiki tree and We're hoping to do some small community challenges throughout the year to build on what people have learned from this. So thank you Yeah, well done. Good brilliant way Yeah, and you know and for the other people out there watching that are wiki tree years or that want to become wiki tree years You don't have to be from australia to have interest in the research And you know, if you want to join a great group of people during one of the marathon events definitely Look up our super Aussie genies because they really rock and you know, they be fun If you want to do something different then join them and help them build some of those profiles up Yeah, we're hoping to you to develop the super Aussie genies team some more So it was a new team that we just sort of set up for the connectathon and hopefully following more workshops at sag We're going to try and use that to build people's skills on wiki tree So thank you for the opportunity and giving us the the ideas to move forward on some of these things because we're also going to try and We had a lot of people Nominated for the seven in seven and it was we've got a few leftovers So as Vanessa said, we're going to try and do so many challenges to work on them with our members as well. So thank you Yeah, and we have a couple of people in the audience that did get a chance to participate During the week and you know, like Andrew Redburn saying wonderful job Everyone was great to be involved and I did get you know, a lot of really positive feedback from other people too They really enjoyed it and you know, it benefits it benefits both of us You know, we got to get get some of you guys involved and help us improve our Knowledge and our skills for Australian research and bring more people to wiki tree But you know, we hope we also are returning that and making You know, improving the awareness for your own group and the wonderful things that you guys are doing Thank you Thank you Thank you So do we have any other questions or comments for the evening? When's the next one? Yes We'll sue in the comments says we've got and you know, you guys are welcome if you Think i'm freezing up a little bit there For anybody that wants to participate in the next challenges, you know, um come and find us