 Hello everybody. Welcome to a very special esoteric Atlanta. I am joined here with three lovely ladies who are part of the group of over 500 people who are participating in the shadow work challenge. But before we get into the subject at hand, I do want to go ahead and introduce these ladies and show you guys who they are, what they are up to. First we have the beautiful Cassie who is below me. And she actually just did something very brave. And she opened up a YouTube channel and I know all about that. So let's show you guys. If you're not subscribed to Cassie Light on Change, I'm going to be putting a link to her channel down in the description box below. So you can go ahead and give her a subscribe. YouTube is a great platform in a lot of ways and a lot of ways it isn't, but in a lot of ways it is because it allows you to kind of create your own platform literally. And so we want to support our fellow patriots, our fellow challengers, our fellow human beings who are on the side of good. So go and give her a change. Then we have Amber here who is over in California and she owns a dance studio. And you guys, Amber and I were chit chatting before Cassie came on and she, Amber, you guys do like competitive dance and all that kind of stuff, right? So if you, and you were telling me, I mean, you guys made it through, which is amazing because you made it through the lockdown, which we did too, but that was really hard. So you guys see they have different age brackets. So if you're up in Northern California, where, where again, what's the town you're located in? Amber? In Roseville. Roseville. So I will put a link to her website down in the description box as well, too, guys, especially in your Northern California, California is a hard state for a lot of people like us to be in. So if you need to want to like-minded business owner to get your kids involved in movements, we're going to be talking a lot about movement today, send them over to Amber. And, and then we have Kathy, you were telling me that you guys, you're in Nashville, Tennessee. You're close to me. That's right. You have your family has a handyman store, right in Nashville. That is right. We own Del Rio Home Improvements here in Nashville. I would say go to the website, but it's a little bit wonky even after like seven and a half years, we're still working out the kinks. But you can find us like on social media on Facebook. Del Rio is two words, D-E-L-R-I-O. I honestly believe we are the only Del Rios in Nashville. So I promise you will find us. Well, once we get done, Kathy, just send me a link and I'll put everything down in the description box for anybody that's in the Nashville area because we definitely want to come together as a community. That's really how I think we start to like really stick it to the man, you know, as we support each other. I mean, I know it's annoying. I still have to use a lot of the big corporate sites. But if we really start to push towards other people that are running out of their heart and soul, they're running their businesses and stuff like that, we start to course correct this ship that's been going in one direction and we want it going in the other. So let's get into the topic at hand, ladies. How about it? You guys have been doing this 30 day shadow work challenge. I'm going to start by asking you guys, what made you will start with Cassie and we'll go around the table. What made you go, you know what? I'm going to do this 30 day challenge. It was getting active physically again was already on my to do list. So it was already really important to me and I just been having a hard time working it in. So I was laid off from my corporate job in August and reorganizing life and trying to work back in the big rocks like this. And this was perfect timing. I'm like, I got to do it. Here you are. What about you, Kathy? What made you go? Sounds like pain and torture sounds like a really good idea. I honestly do not know. I was like, wow, do I hate myself or love myself? I don't know. I love both. I've never heard anyone, right? That's right. Honestly, it's funny because right before I saw you post the challenge, I just been sharing like I am physically and emotionally exhausted. I am a mama for we own a handyman business. My professional title is a guide to young learners in our homeschool community. There's a lot of emotional presence that's just required in my life and that absolutely shows up in my body like I'm just like fatigue is like the word I felt like followed me around. But for some reason, just a couple of days before I just had like a I'm searching for something. I started pilling around with working things through the body and then you posted the challenge. And I was like, this sounds like a lot of work. I don't want to do and I'm going to do it. I like I just I just followed that really quick intuitive nudge of like just sign up. So when you said who's in I was like, me, me, okay, yeah, me, me, yeah, me. Amber, what made you go you know what this this wacky 30 day commitment seems like a really good idea. I was already starting to like do all this stuff but so I needed guidance because I was very confused. And I was like, perfect. I can do this. And that's that's something that is really heavily spoken about in the east is the guidance. And in actually you being a dance teacher owning a dance studio, you kind of, you know, we we talk about there's a word in Sanskrit that's called parampara or parampara is how some people say it and this is this is one on one teaching from guru to student and I'm not a guru but this is it's the transmute mutation of energy. And so like when you're using when you're with your dance students and your hands on, you're literally energetically teaching them as well, not just through your verbal cues, but there's an energy presence there that's guiding them. And what's so confusing to is that shadow work, especially using exercises of modality for shadow work can be very triggering and very painful. And when that starts to come up. A lot of times there could be resistance and you don't know what to do you don't know if it's normal. You don't know if you're doing wrong. Have you guys been shocked at having to read? Is that that was a question I was going to ask you guys has your perception of exercise as spirituality changed and shifted? Yes, definitely. Definitely. There seems to be a little bit of playback happening with the volume. So if there if anybody has like any like, rate or radio water thing like that, just check that. That's okay. I always tell people watch I'm like, I'm in my bedroom filming. We're not we don't have professional equipment that we're on zoom. So so and that's something that's so hard. And for me, when I first started to study this, because I come from a medical family, my mom's family, the brice is the best where I get my name from my mom's maiden name. They're all doctors for like generations. And then here I come. And I'm like, I'm going to go to India. And I'm going to study the dose shows in our data, you know, like talk about shifting some family karma. But we're so programmed, especially in the West, I think if something hurts, hold back in a dress in a different way, has that shifted like body pains? What do you feel about your body, your own body pains? I guess I'll go first. So I was buying like the first day I did bar because like, my body's used to bar because I dance. But then when I did the yoga, it's my jaw started hurting and it went down my neck all the way into the middle of my spine. And I was like, Oh, okay, I get it now. Oh, that's what they mean. So we look at that that jaw tension. So that's coming from like the throat chakra, right? And how apropos all of us all four of us probably in last few years have felt like we've been silenced. Basically my whole life. So it makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah, and that's one thing the practice will do for you too, is it will give you it will show you the practice in general will show you where there's issues, but then you have to figure out because you're the solution to those problems. Right? You're the one that has to then go, Oh, I now have to heal this. The workout, the practice, whatever backs off and says, All right, I'm presenting you with the issue. Go go fix it. Right? So yeah, very overwhelming, but also very self empowering too. Right. What about Matthew and Cassie? What have you guys gone through with this? Have you noticed any like lingering tweaks or pains that now you realize is something bigger? Absolutely. Yeah, I know I actually have a knot that in my back and my lower lumbar that I was able to work out. I mean, there's more, but one of them is gone. But that is that is coming from a safe role chakra blockage. And that makes complete sense with my story that I'm not going to go into but you know, yeah, absolutely. And what I'm going to have you guys do because of the playback guys. So when you're not speaking, will you mute your mic? And then when you come to speak on mute, unmute your mic, that will help with the playback as well. This happens a lot when we have multiple people on our round table. So, so my next question is so when we're looking at the lower three now, now a lot of times people see spirituality, they want to stay up here. They want to stay in the ethereal, right? But even seeing like the missing Gospels of Mary Magdalene that you have the decent or you can uscent. So has that when we talk about the safe role chakra, the lower and a lot of times women especially get very soft in the belly overly so which is showing a wound there which makes sense. Look at what women have been through for generations. You know, it's an inherited karma. Does that was that was that a revelation to you guys at any point that I hold descending before ascending? Yes. Yeah, and it actually links back for me to your last question of the exercise and the pain because I I had made I feel like I've made like little connections along the way like birthing my children like I birthed with a midwife. And I remember her getting in my face and saying you can push through the pain. And on the other side is a beautiful life waiting for you. Right. So I can connect it to that one instance. But the activity of exercise like the first three days of the challenge I spent throwing tantrums not even doing the exercises like literally like fucking yelling at my phone like cut like just like you son of a bitch and how dare you like you don't tell me what to do. I mean just to crudity like really just tantrums that like I haven't seen my kids throw right. And then I thought I had all this resistance to the bar. I got up I did the I finally made it to the bar. But it was the ashtanga yoga. And my right hip bike was screaming for days. And there was just such a loneliness and anxiety to getting through the descending postures in the ashtanga that like was almost alarming to me. Right. So sitting. So sitting through that was brought back to me something that a reiki master said to me one time. She said when I see you, I see like just mounds pounds of energy coming down through here and shooting right out your hips. Like you're not grounded. And I was I don't want to be grounded on a fly. You know, it's like I do not I think the epiphany for me was the intense resentment of incarnating in this body. Like just the sheer resentment of no, I changed my mind. I actually don't want to be in this meat suit. But something you said yesterday, I think with Stephanie or I heard it yesterday was about if the muscles aren't ready, if there's not the strength in the body to hold the energy that's coming, it can't hold it. And it brought back that image of the reiki teacher saying it's all coming in, but he it's all shooting out. And the body isn't holding it. And I was like, damn, I spent so much time resisting this really elemental piece. And I really think that's what the challenge is for me. Let's focus on that for a minute, because that's the big one with a lot of people. And I think especially I don't know how you guys grew up. I grew up Presbyterian. Did you guys come from like a Judeo Christian background as well? Yeah, very fear based Protestant. Yeah. So we're taught and we know when I studied way down workshop, which that lady that just passed away, I did a whole breakdown on on Zublik don't dark outpost. And I found that obesity is actually the highest and evangelical, especially the Baptist. And it's because people are hiding their emotions, because they're not able to express them. So let's look at this in multiple ways. So we're taught we'll use the name Jesus, because that's the name they use, even though that sounds real name. They you know, we're taught in a church that if you believe in Jesus, Jesus will just take all your problems away, right? There'll be peace about you, which is not what he's taught. He never said that. You know, the word savior means you don't have to incarnate again. So he's good. He got it. He got enlightenment. Now he's teaching you. He was the guru, right? But also, we're kind of taught that our bodies are sinful, especially as women. And so we have almost like a fear and a resentment for being in a body. But if we look at the Eastern teaching, the body is the Shakti of the soul. It's not the soul. It's the expression of the soul. And so for you, Kathy, like and for Amber and for Cassie, everybody watching when your soul now, if you study the law of one, every person on this planet right now is a is not a totally new soul. The new new brand new baby souls could not handle what is happening on this planet right now. The powers that be great source and all those higher beings made sure that the people who came here, the souls that came here could handle it. So we have the macro of writing this wave of an ascension for the planet. But we also have our micro as well and our micro feeds into that macro. All this I keep saying all the various stuff that's happening with the controllers with the with the little ones all none of that's going to change until we heal our own wounds. And that's where our power lies, right? That's the vibrational rising. And so yes, I think you had on something big Kathy, I think especially as women, we've been taught to be ashamed of our bodies. We've been taught that our bodies are sinful. How can a body that can carry a baby be sinful? The female body is a portal. And so we're starting to understand that our bodies are actually a part through the Eastern teaching. Our bodies are a part of the spiritual experience. You know, and you're I love what my favorite I just posted one of the on my community tab yesterday. I love Broadway. I've always been a huge fan of Broadway. Huge fan. I love the dancing. And so I watched a clip from the 2012 Tonys, where the play newsies and they did the Broadway play. I posted one of the scenes they presented on the Tonys and just watching what the human body can actually do. And you probably see it too, Amber, with dance. What the human body is actually capable of doing is breathtaking. Your body is magic. It's magical. You know, it grew via four kids. It grew four babies. You know, and so when we actually can be appreciative of that, I know a lot of women struggle, I've struggled with body dysmorphic disorder. I've and now at 30, it took me almost 40 years to recover from that. Because I've watched what my body and when you're able to and throwing those temper tantrums, as you were saying, doing the exercises, well, the ashtanga practice is designed to piss you off first and foremost is designed that way. Because it's supposed to be triggering you because it's designed specifically for shadow work, right? It worked. And trust me, I always say, you know, you go to the like the fake yoga, the vinyasa flows and you see that in your music playing and everybody's reading poetry and like, that's not real. You go into a mice or room, you got people with their yoga pants on backwards. Their hair looks like Albert Einstein because they're sweating so hard. And they're dropping f bombs every five minutes. You know, if that's real, because that's real, right? Pain is real. That's the rawness of the practices pulling up, you know, so so so Amber and Cassie, what did you discovered about Amy? We Kathy said she realized she wasn't grounding. What have you guys discovered through this experience of using exercises of modality for spiritual growth? Oh, gosh, you know, I know I have a lot of pent up stuff in my knees. And I feel like maybe that's maybe stems to something of, you know, reticence of going forward, maybe in life. You're the creature. Yeah, yeah, which I've always tried very to be very bold and not be afraid to go forward. That's always been important to me and jumping right in. But it's still there. It's obvious. So I think I've ignored that that fear and just, you know, overrided all the time and not dealt with it. Maybe I don't know, you know, and there's a lot of stuff. That's common. That's common. Yeah, that's how we call that. That's probably an element of what we would call toxic positivity, where instead of an MA and I have spoken a little in this week, we might do a deeper episode on this because as Amy said, voice message one says, Yeah, it's like shitting in a room and then putting potpourri over the shit and hoping people don't notice. You know, it's not it's not it's not it's just it's just stuffing it under the rug. Right. And so and so yeah, knees are usually a sign of being a fear of the fear. It's either a sign of the fear of the future or something is so drastically happening in your hips that it's pushing into your knees. And that's up for you. Like, that's the beautiful thing. As I keep saying, through the journaling process, that's something each individual has to figure out for themselves through their own story. You know of what that actually is. What about you, Amber, you're in a different place because you you've been in your you've been dancing, you've been you've been working with the body for a long time. So yeah, anything new that you're like, Oh, shit, this makes this is a different perspective or what about you for me, it's just like time management because I'm busy all the time. Like, I work like six days a week and stuff. So I just this helped me push myself to, like, actually do it. So I have to wake up at 430 to do it all. But do it all I do all the extra bonuses and everything. But the yoga has definitely helped a lot. Yeah. And isn't it interesting? So Kathy, you said you were scared of the bar, but it ended up being the yoga. Have you guys found that you were looking forward to one modality, but then something else completely different happened versus what you were expecting to happen. And another modality is really what kind of like got in there. Anyone could jump in. I you know, I just I was excited to do all of it. But I find that just each one is its own unique thing and has I'm just amazed every day. Honestly, I don't know what to expect. And it's it's more exciting each day. It's a great way to look at it. Yeah, it's painful. Don't get me wrong. There's that toxic positivity. Fantastic. Well, that's why that's why I love how I talk about Ram Dass a lot. And if you guys are not familiar with Ram Dass, he's since passed away. But that man, his books affected me so deeply, especially when I was first starting my journey and first starting to go to India. And I was really faced with really hard stuff. And I realized that you can either look at these hard things or these painful things as something so dramatic and just so awful, or you can see it as interesting. Because that's the word he would use. Oh, this is kind of uncomfortable. Interesting. Oh, I'm I'm literally having I'm in my 40s, and I'm having a temper tantrum at four o'clock in the morning at some guy on a YouTube screen. Interesting that I'm reacting. This is interesting. So you become your own scientist, you become your own, you know, it's it's oh, my body, my body is resisting this particular move. That's what I find very fascinating, especially you probably see it in dance to Amber, when we're making because one of the similarities between yoga and dance is you're making shapes with your body. So why is it that this one shape triggers me but this other shape doesn't? Interesting. Like, right? You know, so so it becomes this really incredible puzzle that your soul, and that's the beauty and the power of how intelligence our soul our souls are. So our souls all sat down before coming to this planet with our own guides and said, this is my contract. This is what I'm gonna I want to have these are the obstacles that I'm asking for. And that was really empowering to me as as that oh my god, everything that's happened to me, I asked for it. Yeah. And when you realize that power, I love that you brought up Brian Weiss the other day. And because I really got into Brian Weiss and several years ago and other people that talk about that. Yeah, you know, the realization that we chose to be here and we chose to do all of this is very impactful. It's empowering as a mom to because I have to remember that for my kids is that my kids also have a path that they've chosen. And that for some reason we have chosen this path together. And I love the language of the watchful observer. And in our in our studio in my studio with young learners, it's that is the language that we use, right? Like, you are where you are and where you are is okay, we're just we're just observing, we're just practicing. And then having to as the guide, apply that like to me, this shows like the importance of the lineage of I have a teacher, my teacher has a teacher. That teacher has a teacher, right? That's right. That's so I'm guiding, you know, young people in a particular setting. But I also in order to do that, I have to do the work. And that's also part of the catalyst, like as a mom and as a guy, by it's, it's not a it's not a luxury or you know, it's like it's imperative to the lineage of the work. And I had a really interesting going back to the movement, I had a really interesting experience with Richard Simmons. I remember. He took a guru. I love him. I'm I'm just I just love that guy. Same. I was like, oh, I really think this guy is my spirit animal because you know, I had glimpses of him, like of my mom, like he and my mom had similar hair, like I just remember that. But what what struck me was, I love dance as as an activity, but also as a metaphor, like in getting into and like, giving myself permission about 20 minutes in to sort of cut away from what he was doing and just start dancing around the room was like a super like empowering and freeing. It was it was like returning to that of a child, right? Like the freedom in the dance, like the freedom in the movement, like there's, there's, there's no point. There's no judgment. There's nothing to prove. It's just the activity of and that was really profound, like to remember the importance of that kind of play and freedom in the body, that kind of that kind of movement. I was surprised by that a little bit, like that that I got so wrapped up in my own movement that wasn't even sure what he was doing on the screen. I was just kicking ass, like all around the room. Somebody says no one was somebody coming nowhere, shorty shorts, like shorty shorts. Well, Amber, you can take on this because you and I'm glad you brought that up to happen because Amber, you have kids who compete in dance and so they're using their bodies as on the athletes, but there is also that part of dance that's art. That's a question of the soul. So maybe you could speak more on this. Have you found that there's a balance between the two or are they really, should they really be merged together as one, a competition with the art? Well, I'm, I don't really like the competition part. I grew up competing because it gave me no opportunities to perform and you get better, like to be a good at dance, you have to be competitive. But it's funny because kids do not like when we let them improv. They do not like it. They feel very vulnerable and insecure when we make them improv. Very interesting. That is interesting. I wonder if that's because I was thinking when you were talking about Kathy and I know many teachers, Marnie Alton talks about this a lot because on her platform, she has a lot of what she calls the many means is where the kids will come in and do it with their parents. And she even talks about his kids. Like, and I've talked about with the spine because people notice a lot of backache, which I always say it's your muscles are building, give it time. Because we have these little muscles in our spine that go at the after he is the older than we have to be. Kids are able to move. Like they're coming fresh from the spiritual world. Like, right? Like they're coming like straight, straight from God. And then we come in and we corrupt them. And so that's interesting that I feel like in my childhood that we would have watched the freestyle dance. Let's speak straight volumes of how much control the controllers have now to even be kids to have to even follow the orders now. But they're given the option to not follow the orders. That makes sense. And I'm making sense, like, right? Well, that's that's what and the older they get, the less flexible they become to so that yeah. And we see this in the alternative education model as well. Like, you know, we're basically unschooling, like we're inviting families and children to come in and unlearn what you think you know. And to just explore and it is you know, my older ones that try to come in, it is such a it's like hitting a wall. It is they look at you wide eyed when you say, well, what would you like to do? Well, what would you do in the situation? Or, you know, what makes the most sense for you and what you're working on right now? It's like they're they're stunned. They don't. And it's it's heartbreaking to me because it's like at one time you did know, right? Because it's like, oh, at one time you did know. And it's just covered up right now. So I think that's like interesting parallel, which is why I love the metaphor of dance is that it just it can cover the plumber of disciplines that were that were working on. It's interesting you bring that up and let's talk on that. One of the questions I asked you guys was what's the difference between having tutelage accepting tutelage from a teacher that's submitting to control? And a lot of what you're saying is a lot of these kids now from you, Amber and Kathy, from what you've witnessed is that a lot of kids are now. Oh, right. So, you know, and that's I kind of know what the difference is between having a strict teacher and a cult leader. My teacher in India is very strict on us in the Shala. There are expectations that he has for us as an authorized teacher. I have to you're right, Kathy, I have to practice six days a week. I have to go and always every 18 months have to go back to India. I don't know what that's going to look like the future because everything that's happened. But to make sure that I'm still doing my part for myself so that I can keep teaching. But as far as his strictness, it doesn't go outside of the yoga. He doesn't know where we live. He doesn't. He doesn't watch what we eat. He's on a cult leader, right? Right. So that's going to be a really hard bridge to cross when we move into this new new world. Like how do we go from being so controlled, breaking that controlling and then going back to then accepting tutelage from a teacher? Where is that thin gray line? You know, and it's and I don't know what the answer is. We'll just have to wait to see what happens, you know. I think a lot of that's energy to I think I think we are born with an intuition. We're born with a gut feeling and we get gut feelings about people. But then we're told to I think we know when somebody is a strict teacher for your own well-being. But all we also know when the opposite is true when someone's just trying to control you. Yeah. But we're not with our gut feelings that most people can't even discern that for themselves. And as you were asking the question, it really has to like when I'm thinking about my young people, it's like they have to really be able to tap into that intuitive discernment on what is the intention behind the tutelage that I'm being offered, right? It's like I need to be able to discern the intention, the heart and mind and purpose behind what's being offered to me. And is it of sound mind and sound heart and good intention and for well-being or is it for manipulation and control or for like conversion, right? They're trying to convert me to a way of thinking or being in the world. You're so funny. You say that. I was telling Stephanie's been down here doing classes, Reiki, all that kind of stuff. And we have a big Hindu temple here in Atlanta that I wanted to take her to because you can do their services are very different. They don't have one lecturing after it's just chanting and prayer and that's it. I want to take her there. And I was telling her that the uncles that work there, I asked them once like, you know, in the Christian church, if you want to become a Christian, it's like a whole thing. Yeah. Creation classes. And I asked the uncles there. I said, what is one way to become a Hindu? I'm just curious. Like, if I were to become a Hindu, what do I have to do? And the uncle looked at me, goes, you just say you're Hindu. That's a very different. It's like a decision or a confession. It's like, you see, there's no one you have to answer to. You just decide what you want to be. And so you're right with that. What's the intention behind? No, there was, if you want to be a Hindu, you just say you're Hindu. Like, no giving money, there's no someone else, you and God. That's right. You know, how do you think, you guys, so if more and more people start to understand this philosophy, I mean, Yahshua said it, the kingdom of heaven and hell is inside of you. If you want to know God, you know the self, the higher self, which is what connects to God. So these teachings are actually what you're doing right now in the third day challenge is what Yahshua taught. It's what the Gnostics went through. How do you think, when we move into this new world, how do you think people are going to adapt, do you think people are going to have an easy time adapting to this theory? Or do you think they're going to have a heart resistance to it? I think they're going to have a hard time initially, especially after what we just went through. Are you three willing to that point, since you've been doing this, whenever that flip happens, who knows when that's going to happen? Would you three be willing to take on more of a leadership role in helping your communities work through the shadow side? Yeah. Actually, at the beginning of the lockdowns, I felt a really clear message, like, your work is going to be on the back end of this. I just don't know. I've been sensing a lot, like, I hear Tamara in my ear right now saying, stop chasing the money. And, like, it's very pertinent to where we are right now as a family. And it's almost like you're going to have to turn your vision towards what you think you're going to be doing and stop chasing the money, like, if it comes great, but the work is going to be different. And I, as I'm talking, I'm wondering if that's sort of the cusp that I'm feeling that like I'm on, like I'm on the leading edge of myself. That's what it feels like. That's a great, well, that's one thing too. We have, I've mentioned this a few times, but are you ladies familiar with the term dharma? A little bit, yeah. So your dharma, if you want to know more about dharma, the Bhagavad Gita talk, so your dharma is like your, your path. It's your, it's your, so we have the micro, but we have the macro as well. And it's funny because in the Bhagavad Gita, Arjuna is on the battlefield. He's like, all of a sudden doesn't want to be a warrior. And God appears to Arjuna as Krishna. And he's on the battlefield and he's like, please, I don't want to do this. And Krishna is like, toughen up, Buttercup. What you signed up for. This is your dharma. This is your sole contract. Like, what do you mean? You can't, you can't board mission now. Like you got to toughen up. And so our work, I do believe we are meant to work. We are meant to work, but we're not meant to work in a matrix. All right. We're meant to work in a feeling arts, teaching dance amber, like doing things that you're passionate about that you actually, you know, have to make money to pay the bills. But I would do, I mean, the 30th day challenge was free. Like I would do this for free, you know, because this is what I'm passionate about. And it's what makes sense to me. It's from the heart. And so can you imagine the world we're going to live in when every single human being understands what their dharma is and does it? Yes, I'll be beautiful. Beautiful. I don't think we would have as much depression, anxiety. But then of course that means that the whole financial system has to crumble. Because you're right, Kathy, they put us in a position where they're dangling the carrot in front of us. We can't go off grid. We have to be on grid in order to survive. Well, and they twisted it. The carrot that we're chasing is actually their carrot, but they can just that it's for us, but it's not. Yes, for them. I mean, the I always say this, like, you know, you could say anything you want to say about the controllers, but they're damn smart. They're smart and they're scary smart because they're psychopaths. So there's like no moral compass to hone in. If they were if they had a moral compass, that intelligence could be used in such a powerful way. But without the moral compass, it is very service to self. And so I think most people, I believe that like 99 percent of the world population is good and wants to do good, has guilt, has has compassion, has empathy. And so if we remove that carrot, that's not ours anyway. Yeah, I don't I mean, I know some people are supposed to be accountants because that's their Dharma. They're good at math. They're good. They love it. But most of the accountants out there are probably supposed to be Reiki healers. Yeah, you know, and I said the same to people before Kathy, like people. I don't I don't remember what I don't know. And I say to people, if you take away all fear, you couldn't fail. There's no way you would ever fail. Fear is gone. No inhibition. Then what would you do? And most of the time when you say that's people, they know exactly what they would do. And so that fear is a big block as well for people. A lot of that is the fear of not being able to pay the bills, the fear of not being able. But then also you have to remember, like if someone is homeless because I really struggle with seeing homeless people. Oh, we lost Kathy. I really struggle with seeing homeless people. But I always remember they they agreed to that for something they needed to learn. Your soul agreed to it. Doesn't mean we should help them. Our souls agreed to help. But you know, so so what what has in this experience has there been anything that's come up for you ladies that has like scared the shit out of you that you've had to do? I journaling has always been a challenge for me. And then I understand how important it is. So but I'm I'm tackling it more directly now. I've been trying to do it for probably my whole life. I literally have journals everywhere with spotty entries covering years. But now I'm really focusing on it. And it's not fun, but it's good for me. And so I'm doing it. Oh, we lost Kathy again. What about you, Amber? What is something that's really scared the shit out of you in this practice? Because that, as I say, that's that's the juicy part, right? That's the interesting part. I don't the stuff that you're good at. That's boring. What scared you? Because that's where it's juicy and interesting. Doing the inner child thing was hard for me because I did not have a very like that's not my mom or anything, but the rest of my family, I was just like, you know, rejected by everyone. No, they just didn't like me. I don't even know why, just like growing up and at dance. No one liked me. So writing all that stuff out was very hard for me. Well, I hope did you find any clarity going through that? I knew that was going to be a very hard. This is a hard week in the challenge. There's a lot. And I just childhood wounds are some of the most or some of those difficult to tackle. And I've been through trauma therapy. I've gone through it all. But one thing and that's why I had you guys listen to Quan Yin again is like seeing yourself as that little tiny girl being held by by it makes the emotional by Quan Yin and then writing that letter to yourself as a child and telling yourself. Telling that child you are loved. You are here on purpose. You are a fractal of God. And that child. Whatever happened to that child, that child was innocent. Children are innocent. And realizing that that child is still you. And that's why I really wanted and I even suggested it. Did you guys do that? Did you write the letter to your inner child? Was that healing or was what was your experience doing that? Yeah, I feel like it was healing because I made me realize like I didn't do anything wrong. It wasn't me that did it. They just have something against me out. I don't know what it is, you know, probably something against themselves. Yeah. So people put project onto you. Their own wounds. So you're right. You did nothing wrong. It was people in your life that had their own wounds that they were not working on. And so when something hurts, like if you have a hot potato, you throw it, right? So people have these things that hurt and they're uncomfortable. So they just take it and just throw it. They throw it on somebody else because they don't want it. And if you're an empath energetically, if you are empathic, which I think all three of you probably are, then you're going to and you have a kind heart. You're usually going to be that target. That receives that hot potato because energetically, you are the person that you probably were the little girl that would sit at the table with the kids that weren't being talked to just so they would feel better, you know, and and that's I I'll tell you when I was in trauma therapy, I had to go through a time when I was like eight years old. I still remember it to this day. And I remember being in the car and this was before and when I was a kid at eight, we got to sit in the front seat. It was before all those weird. Now kids like have car seats until they're in college. Like I don't really understand it. But I'm like, this kid's 17. Why is he still in a car seat? But I remember sitting in the front seat of the truck. I'm by my legs were hanging out. My dad was in the car and I said something about something I wanted to do when I was a grown up. And my dad said, no, you won't. No, you won't. But my dad did that all the time to us. I'm cold dad. No, you're not. I'm a hungry dad. No, you're not. And I was telling my trauma therapist how that memory is so ingrained in my head. And we talked about how it made me feel, how it disempowered me. And then she asked me and my therapist asked me a question. She said, OK, well, you're an aunt. Because she said, now you have to start mothering your dinner child and you that was wounded. You're an aunt. If you were driving and your nephew said something to you about what he wanted to do. And he grows up. What would you say to him? And I said, I would say that sounds really cool. Charlie, I hope you get to do that. And so my therapist said, OK, now say that to yourself. And that's when I kind of got it that my dad is wounded. And so he threw those wounds on his kids. I think a lot of parents do that either consciously or subconsciously. Because we're all and that's one of the most groundbreaking things I think is when you realize you come to a certain age in your life and you realize your parents actually don't have it all figured when you're a kid, you think your parents are everything and they just do everything right. And then there's this. I think I was in college when I realized, oh, my parents have no fucking clue what they're doing. So I'm just so great for all for everyone. They're just doing the best they can. We're all just doing the best we can. You know, so Kathy, I asked them was there something in this challenge that scared the shit out of you? What's the one thing in this challenge that has scared you the most? You're on mute. Technology is hard. You're still on mute. Awesome. Sorry I had to change gears. My laptop died. I couldn't find the charger. It's OK. It happens. Something that has scared me. Like you were like, oh, shit, when you saw this thing on the on the schedule. I think, oh, I think the other ladies were talking about maybe the exercise with the journaling to the inner child, which is something I started years ago with like EMDR and that kind of work. I think just one quick comment to that. One of the things I was thinking of as you were talking, Bryce, was there's a book called The Four Agreements. And one of the agreements was I'm not going to take things personally. Right? It's like understanding that what people are doing is about their own journey and their own stuff. That was really like revolutionary to me. Like that I had permission not to take those things personally. And that's so much of my journey has been reparenting myself. And I swear to God, having kids, there is nothing that will light a fire under your ass to get your work done. Then seeing generational shit come out on your kids. Yeah. That was a huge catalyst into being really intentional about continuing to try to reparent myself. And part of that was I'm not going to take my parents' trauma and their lack of awareness or their lack of work as something personal to me anymore. It really isn't about me and I have permission to do what I want to do. The second part that came out with me in relation to the childhood work was dance, like seeing Amber with her dance studio. When I was little, I swear to God, I'm not going to cry. When I was little, I sing. I loved dancing. I wanted to cheer. I wanted to like do theater. But our household was so fear based and it was so fundamentally religious. There were so many rules and my parents lived and died, especially my mom lived and died by those doctrines. Like there's just so many rights and wrongs. I wasn't allowed to dance. I wasn't allowed to go to the movies. And I got I received the message. I was told everything you love is evil. The things that stir your heart, the things that excite you, like I was like a blasphemous like entity in her eyes. And so like seeing Amber with her dance studio and like like seeing kids get to like experience those kinds of things. I think what scared me at the most in this challenge was that in this physical body I'm in, I'm not going to have the courage to invoke and engage those activities in this lifetime. Does that make sense? Yes, like I'm not going to like there's something like I can see my strength in a myriad of areas of my life. Like I can point to things and say that is badass. I can do that. But there's something about the body that I'm in right now and embracing those things in this lifetime, particularly around like dance and theater and singing and the things that I love to do. I think there's a little bit of fear that those things will always be robbed, as if I won't have the courage to reclaim those things. If that makes sense. Have you read the Magdalene manuscript? I know I did it on my channel. I haven't. In the Magdalene manuscript, Magdalene gets into her and Yahshua's sex life. So all those things. Now I'm of the belief because I grew up. My my church was not as fundamental as that. Like we took dance. We did. We wore bikinis, all that kind of stuff. But your body is so powerful because it's the Shakti of the soul. I believe the controllers know this. They're going to do everything they can to make you afraid of your body, to make the body wrong because we are the storm. We can't leave our bodies in this life. This is our temple. And I'm actually going to challenge you, Kathy. I think you at some point, either in your house or rent a room. I think you should throw a dance party. I think you should write your friends, their kids. Either do at your house or like go rent a space somewhere for the evening. You can even do a go get there want to donate. Just. Richard Simmons, the shit out of it, like throw a dance party. Yeah, it's going to be a party of a celebration of life. Why don't we know people call funeral celebrations of life? Now, why do we have to wait for till we're dead? That's right. Celebrate the life we're in. You have this powerful body. Yeah, that was designed. I mean, Genesis one three, God said, let there be light. The original word for light was the Hebrew word that meant divine spark. Genesis one three, God said, let there be you. How can you be so bad and blasphemous if you are the divine spark of God? Yeah, there's just a constant having to remember and remind. Oh, yeah. It's just the continual. Oh, no, wait. Remember, those are their issues, not mine. Oh, remember. Yes. Yeah. I'm going to one up, yeah. So we are. We take on our family karma. That's one of the karmas that we agree to inherit is our family karma. What if you're the person that course corrects all that family karma? Yeah. What if that's how powerful you are? Same for you, Amber. Same for you, Cassie. What if you're the person because you're so vibrationally strong. That you agree to come down to course correct this. Yeah, I think that's exactly right. I think that's exactly right. I think my hiccup right now is embodying that in my body. There is there is a spiritual. There have been so many encounters, like it is like the wake up calls have been loud and clear. There is that my hiccup is is, I think, accepting and receiving that in in this body and living it out in this body and not out of my head. Oh, yeah, get out of your head. The other thing I'll tell you when I get on Jaleen's like, you're going to fuck you up every time. Get out of the head and just trust this body, like in trust in this heart and. Yeah, like, I think sometimes the calling feels big and I feel like I'm still rising to the calling. Does that make sense? It's like, I'm still filling out my clothes. Like, I'm still calling, though. So why do you have to rise to anything? You are the calling. All of you are. So thinking that there's something that you have to be to be the calling is incorrect thinking because you are the calling. You're already enough. Yeah, you are where happy. You are the Kathy that you agreed to be in this life. Ambrose, the Ambrose, she agreed to be Cassie is the Cassie. You're already there. You're already enough. All you're doing is just confronting that and continuing to because it's and it's never and I'm telling you 16 years later, like you're I'm still I still deal with that. I still deal with the inadequacy feeling. Am I doing this right? All those things. That's just the ego. And when I was living in Los Angeles and right after college, I remember an old lady said this. Old people can't be wise. She said what someone thinks about you is none of your business. Oh, that's so true. Oh, God, huge. Like when she said that, I was like, she's right. Yeah, he's right. I had this same experience in a 12 step program where someone leaned across the table and said, what fucking business is it of yours? What she thinks about you? Even like my mother, like what fucking business is it of yours? What she thinks about you stay in your lane and do your own work. It's like, well, damn. Yeah. I mean, my parents, my mother, I don't I have a boundary up with my father, but my mother, she doesn't like that I'm going through the missing books of the Bible. And whatever I ask her, why does she think this is wrong? She can't answer me because it's programming. And I see that that's her programming. That's her resistance. That's her telenovela. That's not my telenovela. I'm open to it. I've always been open to it. Right. You know, my resistance lies in other things. But that's her resistance. That's her karma to work through in this life. Yeah. And I take it personally. And I think when it's our family, we always take it personally. Yeah. Because that's our family. But then I was like, yeah. Yeah. I think that like I started the shadow work challenge because we're talking about helping to clear family trauma. Our families, you know, our families on our Dharma were hoping to clear their karma, maybe. And I've that resonates a lot. I think it seems like probably for all of us. But when I started the shadow work challenge, I did it because I wanted to kick up my physical activity. And it's helped me get to a point where now I'm healing myself so I can help heal others because I know that I can't really heal other help others heal until I heal myself. Absolutely. And that's the one thing I've said this before, like in traditional yoga, you know, now in the corrupt yoga, they do 200 hour courses where you that that's not legit. Like you need to spend years studying this. And the only way that I'm able to hold people's feet to the fire is because my feet have been held to the fire. And so on that, since I know, I know what the liberation looks like. And I will say to with the exercise as well, I was watching this. I'm such a nerd because I'll watch all these when I'm not studying spirituality. I'm watching stuff on the body because it's just the body just fascinates me so much. And I was watching this video and they were on runners, runners. This girl said, you know, I started running to lose weight. But now I'm running because my body can do it. And that act of celebration in that moment of look and you probably felt this whamper with dance, like look what my body can actually do. My teacher, David Green, used to stop and like he would watch and also NFL players in slow motion to see how agile these like 300 pound men could be and he would watch and he wasn't competitive. He didn't care about the sport. He was just trying to see like what their but the magic and the majesty of the human body is unbelievable. And the fact that the church and not just the church, there's also all sorts of places that try to take that power away from you. It's Kathy, that's your fucking body. That's your Shakti. I want you every morning to get up and say this is my Shakti. This is my expression of my soul. This is me not expressing grandma's soul or the guy down the street. So this is my soul expressing itself. Amber, I want you to get a quanyette. A little statue of a quanyette. I want you to put up on your bedside table or wherever you can. OK, because what is these these higher? I don't know what we want to call them. The Sophia code activators, the they're all showing you reflections of your own self. And so that love you feel from quanyette. That's you. That's your own love. Yeah. And Cassie, I think you need to be taking your expertise from your corporate job, taking what you learn from that and get prepared to be helping people to walk across the fire too. Yeah. Because that's hard. I tell people all the time, that's the shittiest part of my job in the mice or room. That's the part I hate the most because I'm an emotional basket case. I'm so sensitive. And when I see students having a breakdown and having their like come to Jesus moments, all I want to do is sit on the mat and cry with them. But I can't. I have to tell them to get up. I have to be like mean and be like, get up, do it again, because I have to get them to get through that breakthrough, right? Because it's always darkest before the dawn. Right when your body is the most sore, everything super tight. You want to give up. You want to cry in the corner. That is right before a breakthrough. And so many people will stop at that moment because it becomes too much. But I just want to say, hold on. If you got to crawl, crawl. It doesn't matter how fast you're going if you're going in the wrong direction. Likewise, it doesn't matter how slow you're going if you're going in the right direction. But wherever you are in the moment, whether that's a hot, I mean, I call this the hot mess express. I mean, you're always going to be on the hot mess express. You just get used to it because there's not there. And I want people to know watching that there is no finish line. Yay, there's no finish line. The the grave is the finish line. But what a joy that is to learn so much about. In this episode, because I know you guys, some of you guys have some schedules stuff to do. What is the most shocking thing? Positive shocking thing you've learned about yourself in this experience so far. That I'm stronger than I thought like mentally. Amber, just looking at you, if you were my student, I can I can already tell you're a very mentally strong person. If you came into my yoga shala, I would have picked that up on you right away. So I'm glad that you're seeing that for yourself. Cassie, what about you? That I was starting to have doubts about being able to heal myself like parts of my body. And I feel like I can do that now. And that's huge. It makes me want to cry. Isn't that the power? That's the plot twist though. I say that like it's kind of comical like, oh, I caused this so I can actually reverse. I can't really undo it because I did it so I can now undo it. Like when you figure that out and it might take a while like I was saying in the group this morning people are a little confused over the doshan. I was saying. You're not going to have the answers at once. It's going to take time. And it's only time that you have within your own essence of learning how to heal yourself what works for you. And a lot of times we're just experimenting to see what works and what doesn't. What about you, Kathy? What is the most shocking, riveting, positive thing you've discovered about yourself in this during this time? Shocking and riveting. I think two things like physically I am stronger than I get myself credit for it and I'm more flexible than I get myself credit for. You know, I'm in a very voluptuous body right now. I'm totally coughing. Like I am like, you know, I'm cup of doshan like we've got curves. We're very cushiony. But it doesn't mean that my body is inflexible. I keep telling people my next life I want to be a cop. Because coppers have the juiciest. Oh my God. I struggle with their weight. But beyond that, like you guys have the juiciest joints. Yeah. I'm more flexible than I give myself credit for. Um, so maybe that's maybe that's the most shocking. I think just like don't give myself enough credit in general. Like I I just really want to play small. But I don't think but I don't think that's my colleague. Why? No, you don't. What is that? What was that reality show where someone said don't steal my sparkle? I love that. That's your monster, Kathy. Every time you start to feel that the the the samskaras of your parents just be like, don't steal my sparkle. Sparkle. So tiara and a wand and don't steal my sparkle, man. I came here to sparkle. So, you know, that's that's, you know, there are times in our lives where we do play small where we are sitting back and observing and learning. And then there comes a time where the universe pushes you forward, you know, and that's and that's what that's that's, you know, we go through phases of cocooning is what they call your cocooning. And then you're a butterfly and then you cocoon again. And it's just different stages of an ebbing of flowing of energy. And I'm one last question. So I'm kind of jumping ahead. But the very last day, the 30th of November, I in the challenge, I don't know if you guys have read ahead. I challenge you for the month of December to pick one thing to do that scares the shit out of you. Have you guys thought about that? What that challenge is going to be for you for December? I could be starting a YouTube channel, which you already did, Cassie. It could be training for a 5K. It can be taking a reiki course. It could be Kathy. It could be signing up Amber. There are studios that offer dance lessons to adults, right? Oh, yeah. You should start with tap. That would be easier. Yeah, it's more structured than like jazz and stuff. That's a good word. I like that. So Kathy, you could even look at taking dance classes. I could that childhood fantasy out. And I love tap. Listen, again, I love my Broadway. I will anything goes any day. Watching that tap Lord tap. We all need the how much better would life be if we lived in a musical? That's right. We just tap dance down the street. I say we create that. So jazz hands as we can have Amber just choreograph life for us so we can just shuffle on down the street. You know, instead of actually having a revolution, we could just sing about one and then it happens. We'll sing about it. Yeah. Almost every day. I tell you guys, I'm serious. I'm up at like four o'clock in the morning and I don't I give myself like an hour before I actually start my practice. I got my headphones on. I've got thoroughly modern Millie playing. I've got anything goes. Well, I am tap. I'm a tap dancing legend in my living room. I love my biggest fan. I think I am some Broadway star. It is the most liberal. And then I'll do my practice after that. But just to get that out to feel that magic, you know, in the body, you know, so what's something? If you are the top of your head, what's something you can do in December that you're terrified of, but you really want to do? Hell, it could be jumping out of an airplane, skydiving. I don't know. I think. Oh, there are two things that come up. One is like, I don't know that I have completely like been honest about spiritually who I am, like coming out of the spiritual closet, sort of say, like there's like like telling the truth about myself and not shying away from who I am and like what my role. So that's one and two would be singing again, like good girl, you live in Nashville lines of karaoke bars. See, Carrie, when you say karaoke, like getting up like that, my heart just started pounding. Actually, like when you sent the message out to like be on the roundtable for the show, my heart started pounding so bad and my face went beat red. And I was like, I think I'm going to I think I'm going to do this because I'm so terrified right now. Is it that a revelation? Yes. I think, y'all, what do you think? I think Kathy needs to go and do some carry. Just have a beer beforehand. It'll be fine. I'm just fine. I'll be good. You know, I came down to earth. He told me I'm beer with us, right? Like it would probably blow the fundamentalist mind, but he totally haven't been with you in that period. People are and I think you need to I do think and Amber, maybe you can help her find a good studio in Nashville and get you into some tap dancing classes. I would love that. That's what I mean. What about you, Cassie? What's something that you're terrified of that you're going to do in December that you but you want to do but you're. You know, it's it's really funny, but karaoke probably hits the nail in the head because I actually I write song lyrics. I sing them in voice notes. I've been doing it for years. I've had full songs I've written and everything. I'm teaching myself the ukulele because, you know, I don't have a guitar, but I don't really like the idea of getting up in front of an audience and singing. I think if y'all live close to each other, I think you guys should go do it together. Do it. Come to Nashville. Oh, I wish I could. I'm in Oregon. Road trip. Road trip. Right. That would be awesome. Well, Mr. T, if you're watching, we have a big celebration. You know, you're going to have to get the world's largest karaoke machine. What about you, Amber? What's something you're terrified of doing? But you want to do in December anyway? Well, I do want to learn Reiki. I do want to learn that. And all I've ever done is dance my whole life. So that would be very different than what I've ever done. So I don't know. Amber, you're in the group signal track, correct? You should message Emmy. Emmy's been doing this for a real Stephanie just got her attunement. I think that for Reiki, you do have to be in the presence of someone because they have to show you and do the symbols. I think you should do that, Amber. OK. Don't you ladies think she'd be an incredible healer? Absolutely. Yeah, I heard Emmy. I'm told, Amy, as soon as you get this school up, you let, you know, like, I will be your first student. Like, just do it. Go for it. Yeah. She can help you find people in your area that can attune you. I think I am an honestly like the fact that you work with kids all day. I mean, God bless you guys, because kids are practicing themselves sometimes. The fact that you have the heart and the patience. And I think that's why I need a Kwanian statue as well. And how interesting you had a painful childhood. But look at the job you picked as an adult. You're nurturing children. So what does that tell you about your soul? You went through hell, but you haven't projected that you've become the opposite of that. Right. You're now nurturing kids and teaching them dance. And so you should be really proud of yourself. Because how many people go through abuse of childhoods and then they turn around their abuse of themselves. And that just hit me like you talked about how that was hard for you. But look at what you do every day. You have all the we have all the special kids that are like, you know, the rejects and stuff. So we all have a good time. Yeah, so tonight. So think about how many of those kids you're working with that are going to grow up and they're going to have such a fond memory of you. You you have no we say that what people think about you is none of your business. So you don't even know the impact that you are making on these children. You don't know what these kids are going through behind closed doors. So the fact that you went through a hard childhood, but now you are actually loving on children for a living. Wow. That's super powerful, Amber. That's so you are a very strong soul. So you should be very proud of yourself. You are quite young. And so I think Reiki attunement is definitely. Right up the alley with what your soul is already doing. So message me. And he's so nice. Everybody I film with is there. They're the same off camera as they are on camera. So they're all here to help. And so, yeah, I would definitely talk to any of you guys are interested in and she can help you. She's been doing this for a long time. So she knows, you know, more about what's going to be a maybe a scam and what's not to kind of help you guide you to the right so that you find the right people to help attune you. So yeah, I like to be with yoga. Like I can probably look at a yoga studio and tell you if it's a scam or not. So, you know, so, you know, so we want to make sure everyone's on the right right page. Well, lady, it's been a little bit over an hour now. I appreciate you guys so much. What is the one. So if there is something to close out, I'm going to let you guys close this out each by telling if anybody's watching right now that thinks they're not strong enough to do a 30 day shadow work challenge. What's the one word of advice you can give somebody watching right now who wants to do this, but might be afraid to do it? One word. Not one word. Sorry, just a line of advice. Like what's something you can tell somebody your final word, basically your final, your parting, your departure. What would you tell someone? That's terrified of you is what wants to. That you'll never know how strong enough you are until you try try. Good that you can do it even if you think you can. You just have to start. Starting is the hardest part, isn't it? Yeah. I think I would say you are more than you know. And if you don't believe that yet, find a way to hear that every day until you do believe it. Say you're more than you know, you're more than you know, you're stronger, way stronger than you think or you wouldn't be here and you wouldn't even be contemplating taking a journey such as this. The second thing would be. You have nothing to prove. It's not a competition. There is no judgment. No one's watching you. No one's working at. Yes. No one's watching. You you're free to just explore and practice. And and that's all it is. It's I would say diamonds are created under pressure. So all right, ladies, we are going to be doing. I'm going to let you guys know on Aquarius Rising Africa when the when the challenge ends, we're going to do a live show with them because of their equipment. I'm technologically stupid. So I don't know how to do all this fancy stuff. But Mornay is like a genius when it comes to this stuff. So they have a way where they can drop a link into the chat and so people, anybody can come in and talk about it at the end of the 30 Day Challenge. So I'm going to go and start spreading the word about that because that's coming in like a little over a week. For the Americans, we've got Thanksgiving coming up. That's going to be a huge part of the challenge next week for our friends who are not Americans. I'm giving you the opportunity for you to learn from us Americans because you got Christmas coming around the corner. As Ram Dass says, you think if you think you're so enlightened, go try spending a week with your family. Our families are our karmic relations. They're supposed to trigger us. And so we are going to be preparing for that this week. That is actually my favorite quote by him is because it's just so true. It's so true. You think you're so aligned. This has been a way. Yeah, like case in point, like I think last Christmas, I left the Christmas dinner table sobbing like. And look, you're giggling about it now. See how great life is when you do shadow work. It's like, this is this was so uncomfortable. Oh, well, it's just he makes you see the most awful things as like comical even like, well, look at this block twist. Look at this crazy resistance I've created. So anyway, guys, I think I returned. I returned to the room and literally was like, Ta-da. Just hands. Just put your top shoes right over. She can just bring her top shoes and just start doing some tap in the in the in the in the kitchen. It was great. You know, I think I think it would be great if you brought the Magdalen manuscript to Thanksgiving dinner. So all of your super religious family members could read about Magdalen and Yahshua sex life. That would be very interesting. I would pay to see that. I love that so much. You know, and you can also say when someone pisses you off, just be like, and peace be with you with you. That's what I try to do sometimes and someone's really pissing me off. I just say in my head, I'm like, peace be with you. The Catholics do and peace be with you. I love it. So you can always talk about hologram pope. I mean, that's a fun one for the Catholics and the Protestants don't like the pope anyway, but just talk and show them the video of hologram pope. Be like, what's real? We don't even know what's really more. My favorite is when my relatives come in and they see my tarot cards and things and like my incense burning and they immediately start like crossing themselves. You should just bring some sage and just start lighting the sage at dinner. I love it. They'll probably be in marijuana. Actually, that might help too. So simple van eggs in the turkey, you know, don't drug people without their consent, guys. That was a joke. Drugging people bad. If they consent to it, then that's a good time. But they don't bad. So so anyway, I know you guys all got your day to get on with. Once again, guys, please check out all of their links down in the description box below. Go subscribe to Casey's channel. Help get it so hard when you first open a channel because you got to catch those algorithms and have a platform without David Zublik. So go and give Casey a subscribe, Cassie. We're not kissing, Casey. I'm looking at Kathy. I'm looking at your names combined. I'm doing like a Brangelina type thing here. What was that? I said yesterday, I think I was on the phone with Emmy. I said I was we're talking about the yoga and the Reiki. And I was like, you know, the Yaki. I was like, that's what we should call our course. The Yaki. Like the Brangelina of the spiritual world, the Yaki. So and go check out Amber's dance studio if you were up in the Northern California area, guys and your child, especially if you're one of us. You know what I mean? I have to be careful what I say on YouTube, but you're one of us. You know what's going on in the world. You know what's going on with these with these, you know, I know Amber, you said you don't whatever people want to do. But if you want your kid involved in an activity where they're with someone that's not going to force this on to them. You've got beautiful Amber here that has a great studio to give them a place to come and grow and learn and Kathy. If you guys live in the Nashville area, message Kathy. I want to see video. I want to see video of this karaoke. It's on and I want to see you tap dancing. We're doing it. I want to see it because you know, some of these Broadway actors might not be here soon. So we're going to have to have new stars. What are they called understudies? Oh no, girl, you're going to be the leading role. Tap dancing with you and Amber are going to be up there on Broadway. You and the shuffle cabin out to anything goes. It's like literally my dream. When I was a child and people would ask me what do you want to do? I'd say, oh, I want to be on Broadway. Like that's that's what I wanted to do. OK, so I really want to because that seems to be a really soft spot with you about your childhood. I want you to hone in on that. I am. I want you to real. What is that about dancing that? And I think you hit on it. It's that freedom. It's that liberation. It's that shock the expression. Yeah. You're the world. You're the warrior. Go go go beat that, Robina. Beat him. So all right, you guys, thank you so much for doing this. We're going to be doing it again at Airclaris Rising Africa when we close out the challenge. We're all going to be doing a 60 day challenge in January. Oh yeah. Bring it on. Why not? Nothing after you do 30, you're like, yes, let's go. Let's go. All right, guys, we'll have a wonderful day and to you guys watching us, let us know your experiences down in the comment section below. I'm sure hearing all of these ladies talk about their experiences, it hopefully didn't make you feel as alone for everything we're all kind of going through because you are not alone. We are all just walking each other home. Yeah. And another Ram Das quote, treat everyone you meet like they're God dressed in drag because they are. Oh, the Christians will hate that, won't they? All right, guys, bye everybody.