 Welcome to Church of the Chair where we celebrate all the things we do while seated. I'm your host E here with my co-host Chad Lutsky And today we are finally getting started on the collab. We've done the first episode was Brainstorming the second one was Outlining and we're finally ready to start So I guess What you want to talk about anything before you jump into it that you want to start sharing your Screen because I kind of we need we need to get that voice we need to get that voice down. So I'm probably gonna watch you Yeah, see what you do To in order to share my screen I'm because I'm on my back I do my audio video stuff on my Mac and then I do all my writing on the here So I have to use this crappy keyboard. So expect many errors as I try to Try to type on this tiny little thing on my lap Dude, I don't even have that excuse a giraffe. Good morning Um, I don't even have that excuse because my my stuff is like I said my first drafts are just word vomit So I'll use the wrong there there there. I'll use the wrong It's I'll use all that stuff and then I have to go back and oh, yeah, I use the wrong It's all the time. I don't know why I know the difference. Yeah, we know the rules It's amazing how many times I get that apostrophe in there when it's not supposed to be good morning, Haley You know, it's it's funny because the I think most of my issues Come from being on the phone all the time and that's another reason why you speak the text even though It it still messes things up But uh, yeah, so I'll I'll get in there and I'm so used to it auto correcting to you know, it apostrophe s That I don't pay attention. So every time I just type ITS and just expect it to do it now Word will do that. But I got to the point with word where it was changing random words And I had to stop using it Sorry, I don't know why I found that funny. Hey. Hey, Haley I don't know why Morning bike. How you doing? All right, so Chad's gonna get started. I am going to be a little birdie watching him Do what he does so that we can get the voice down Basically, he's going to figure out what he's doing and I'm gonna mimic that with that same voice So that should be an interesting Experiment for you guys to watch also watch how I absorb and copy and all that stuff so yeah, I do want to preface that I Don't have I wanted to establish at least a first couple sentences last night. I don't I have nothing so I am really just starting The opening line for those who haven't ever written before or watched the process This opening paragraph doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna stay it might might fall in love with it might hate it It's just the way it goes. So I got a I got a quick story. I worked with an editor one time I worked with her for years But her her thing was and she would do this with everybody It did not matter who the fuck you were and that's one of the reasons now why I have such an economy of words She would literally cut the first paragraph of anything I wrote and start the next one She didn't care what it said she would literally cut it and She's like you don't even notice it's gone And of course me being the writer. I'd be like I do notice it's gone. There's a reason it's there But it almost I do not suggest anybody do this It is a good way to teach you what is necessary and what it's not but yeah, um it Yeah, is it the more I the more she did it is we worked on like 12 different projects together the more she did it the more I I caught on to what she wanted to the point where my opening paragraphs usually became just one line And it was you know get right into the action and move the fuck on and she said she learned it from Kurt Vonnegut Not like personally, but something that he had said Get right into the action and then Expand later. So anyways, I have a I have a friend who preaches that Never use the first paragraph that you've written You're probably gonna write it. You need to write it at least I don't know what he says like six seven eight times and I just I can see that under some certain Circumstances, but usually when I'm writing something. I'm it's I'm starting it because I'm in the moment and Oftentimes that first page is Not every time but oftentimes it's I love going back to it because it impresses me because I was you know You can you can kind of sway from the moment as you as you especially if you have some time in between Doing this project. You kind of lose your voice a little bit, but oftentimes at the beginning It's like I have it and I'm specifically trying to use a Hook and that in you know in the first sentence that that ask a question. Okay. I need to know more what's going on Even it's it's something simple. So I don't really subscribe to the whole but I do know what you're saying and sometimes that can I read books all the time. That's like Especially if it's a book that's like it was a warm sunny day. The leaves did I'm like dude. I don't care I'll come up with my own thing. Just get to the story Elmer Elmer Elmore Leonard would have burned a book like that He's like never start with the weather never start with Never I think it was another one was never start with dialogue or maybe it's the exact opposite never start with narration. Anyways, but also not supposed to Start with waking up on foster homes and flies and stirring the sheets both were the protagonist waking up in the morning Dude, I can't I can't I can't even count I don't have enough fingers and toes that how many stories I've opened with they woke up or whoever woke up So yeah, I completely agree, but I mean it's it's like natural from a storytelling perspective You want to start somewhere in the most natural places? Let's go ahead and start the day, you know, or let's go ahead and start the the craziness like you know I wake up in a strange place or you know, I wake up to Sun coming through the blinds. You're setting the scene It's just really easy to fall back on stuff like that when it's just as easy to start the scene With something else that might be a little more action-oriented like brushing teeth And then you can give you know, if they're OCD or not and you can give hints there that kind of thing whereas the giving the weather or the Description of the room you're in especially when you first wake up. You're not paying attention to what's around you Yeah, so, you know, that's anyways, but but yeah, I I try not to do weather or anything like that All right. Oh We are on forever All right I think I need to get to a different screen here. I always I put the word kind of down there because I always do that. Oh, that's fine. I Don't know if you can this is showing up or not, but I Can pull it up on my side Yeah, you're I can watch you live over on Google Docs if I do have a problem reading it because I'm sitting here going What's that say? My ass up I'm squinting Tarantino All right, this is nerve-wracking. I'm sorry. No, that's no problem What Chad you don't like being watched So voyeuristic, yeah, dude pound that keyboard All right, I'm gonna shut up now Boobs Now we gotta now we got to have a character named boobs. We got to have a character named boobs That's that's it. You did you just you did this not me. Okay, you did it. There's a character named boobs I don't know where he comes in, but there's a character named boobs. I'm down. Yeah Exactly and that's how he could introduce itself. Yeah, he's just a lovable everybody loves boobs. Yeah My name's boobs. Why do they call you boobs? Because everybody loves boobs This is how the process goes guys. This is literally how the process goes You get something you see something and it it just works Just jokingly typing out boobs and we have a whole we have a whole character out of it now because everybody loves boobs That's fantastic It's so good. Oops So good. Oh, what happened to my Here we go Where did I to I heard us oh and by the way if you need to mute me at any point in time definitely Definitely do that. Okay. You're not gonna hurt my my feelings Making leek in Tim. Oh, there it is. I got a lag on my end Tim just popped up for me Leek and potato soup sounds amazing Haley and yes, good morning Tim. How are you doing my friend? You're still you're still back in Alabama, right or am I miss my remembering? Y'all he muted me. I'm crying I am gonna I am gonna mute you. Yeah, I know so that you can you can and there's no sense Go ahead and talk, you know to everybody and stuff It's Chad just laggy for me not like we can do anything about it But it's Chad is Chad just laggy for me or is he laggy for everybody? We do need to try and meet up Tim We need to man I mean, I don't care if it's just for like fucking coffee for like 15 minutes when you're near me Just give me a holler if you remember the discord to shoot me a DM. It's your favorite soup That's a good fucking soup man. There's a brand at Aldi's that I buy. Oh, it's so good Hello staying on themes He is he is this is this is interesting. I want you guys to pay attention He keeps writing in past tense and Has to go back to and has to go back to present. He did it with the first line, too Oh, never mind. He tricked me. He tricked me. That's supposed used is right is correct there It's not supposed to be uses before she sold it. There's so much so much character development just in that opening line The gravel in my hand feels like teeth broken from a kick to the face I choose a good-sized molar and pitch it toward the metal can on whoever Used to keep her jewelry in before she sold it Find comfort in the sound whether it be the satisfaction of hitting my target as it helps make the sound The sound behind me Helps mask the sound behind me. Okay, put the fucking thing right here on the TV and now it's gone I'm gonna love writing this with Chad if for no other reason than he's amazing with dialogue The first thing I thought When we got to the uncle was Uncle Cletus, but I think that's a little too fucking cliche for even for me Once again, if you notice, he's giving character development and character description without giving character development character description So uncle whatever he's looking for his lighter. So we know he smokes. What is he smoke? Next thing would be there must be a dozen of those things lying around the house is either obviously cluttered or or whatever It's yes, absolutely absolutely great Stuffed in the couch cushions kicked under the chair. He's He's nearly melted into oh my god Chad This is a great shit. I mean right there. He just tells you about, you know, uncle's posture This tells you so much or even in his own back pocket He's also forgetful. Is that because of drugs? Is that because of what and Chad's probably not thinking of any of this stuff Like he's not considering it, but he's he's so Good at setting scenes to begin with he knows exactly what he's doing without focusing on what he's doing See now now he's now you see he's overthinking now He's gonna kill me when when he actually rewatch if he rewatches his back Now he's overthinking when or even his own back pocket was descriptive enough and he's now he's adding more to it See what I'd likely do here is I would do or even his own back pocket period He'd forget his own pecker Was he'd forget whereas pecker was if he didn't need it. That's what I would change I'm just literally trying to give commentary for you know, what we're doing I'm definitely not gonna go back and edit it now Never wanted to stir the the momentum. I have none of your bullshit Not today, I have none of your bullshit Isn't the aunt who says that it's a show don't tell yeah, yeah tink. I was so I was hoping I Was hoping he'd do that because He gets gonna keep coming back to that as a as a revolving theme If he if he doesn't do this naturally, which he's already doing it That's the kind of thing that you would go back and add to denote that the good sound That the kid likes is coming through the bad sounds It's like every time it starts getting loud that kind of thing, you know think and once again that's showing what's happening She right here. I would do the screen door screeched open or something like that and he might go back and do this Yep. Yep. Yep. He's doing it He's he's doing it Man, this is this is awesome You scream yes, yes Like a dying crow Yeah nice Man, this is cool as shit. I've never had a chance to watch You know, we've done writing streams together before but I've never had a chance to just sit down and watch him write Because I don't rewatch my lives And where he's putting the things in parentheses. I just write panda fucker That's lets me know I need to go back and change names But then again, he doesn't know anybody's name right now So I wouldn't even do panda fucker I would force myself to come up with something right there and then have to change it because we literally don't know any of These people's names except for people later on We know mingo is mingo. M-i-n-g-o is going to be the The the guy in charge of everything at the carnival and then Sheena or Shena S-h-e-n-n-a is going to be the girl the MC meets It says to get dinner. She wants bread and peanut butter And if you manage strawberry jam get that too And if you can manage strawberry strawberry jam get that too. I might change like jam to jelly Because I don't think these people would say jam. I could be wrong though. I hate those metal chairs with a passion I was about to say the one the the one stained uh the time someone shitting it but Wow I wish I would have said that before he started writing it It's it's amazing how how on how synced up we already are He dropped a lit cigarette in his lap Just before passing out 18 beers man. That's that's a lot During my alcoholic days, man. Me and my friend Pat would go down and get uh Suitcases of beer a suitcase of beer each every single night if you don't know a suitcase of beer has 24 cans and uh We would we'd go down to the local gas station where they had the walk-in cooler Um for the cold beer and we would grab one each and we would kill that every single night Every night did not matter. I'm gonna hop over to this other side Just I can't read this bottom section pregnant girlfriend sits on the middle chair the one uncle shit his pants in two weeks ago after drinking 18 beers He dropped this lit cigarette in his lap just before passing out He woke the whole house with the squeal that came after the next morning. I saw the shit tried like a scab Oh, that's nasty. Oh, that's amazing. Dude. They made it. Ooh scattering the green Paint now that bed spark that bear spot is a reminder. I'm gonna go read some other details about the characters real quick Okay, you turned me on You you you got to go back and watch like my commentary from From like the whole time you were writing basically, but uh the the one thing that I'll point out before Is when you said the way you wrote the screen door part At first I said now I would probably go back and I would say the screen door screech is open And you went back right when I said that you went back and deleted what you had Like I hear the screen door. I can't remember what you had But you basically turned around and did what I was saying I would do right at that Yeah, it's it's it's creepy and I was uh, I was also telling everybody how you were giving character development without giving it because like right up here the uh um The where she used to keep her jewelry before she sold it like that right off the bat tells tells everybody that this family's broke Um, and then you get into the more detail down here about the uncle. Um, the uh Oh, yeah his his uh Like his memory you you you're talking about the finding the lighter So we know that the house is either cluttered or or whatever But on top of that you you also deal with the uh the uncle's memory and anger issues Uh, and I said the only thing that I would change about that section would be uh, or even in his own back pocket period He'd forget where his pecker was if he didn't need it So I that that'd be the only thing I changed. I like the the c read But that was the only comment I had about that and the rest of it's just yeah, it's good I like I that's funny that you said that because I don't like the forget where his pecker was if he didn't need it You don't like it. Well the funny part. Okay, when you go back if you go back and watch I I I originally said before I saw what you were adding because you kind of got Stuck on because like you're trying to add to it and I said it's it's fine the way it is I would stop it right after Um, or even in his own back pocket full stop But I also do like I I do like that line just because I don't know it it just reads But I would definitely get uh rid of the because his eyes see read so often just you know period after pocket And then he'd forget where his pecker was if he didn't need it but anyways that was that was really cool to do the commentary for because The uh, it it was it was interesting to see you either employee stuff that I would do Or for me to literally predict what you were about to do. That's that's very cool Yeah, that is We know more nerve-wracking than I thought it would be. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, don't don't don't do that No, no, no, no, that's fine. I uh, I've done writing live streams, but I've never People can't see what I'm writing right. I got you know, so I'm not self-conscious. I get real um I don't know. I guess I get I guess I get self-conscious about it. I mean, it's no big deal. Yeah The fact that you still do it is important, you know the fact that you can push through that even if you are nervous I mean, you did a fantastic fucking job. You did, you know All the all the subtle character detail, um With you know, like like hailey says over here. It's a show. Don't tell fantastic writing and uh, yeah, see that I I can't do that Um on a on a rough draft. It's usually just blah. Here's all my ideas and then we'll go from there But yeah, um, I didn't finish reading this last bit um Later that night, uh, oh no, I'm way down here. Never mind. I'm I was reading the notes sits on the middle chair the one uncle shoots the the whole uh Dried like a scab is great. Uh, they made me clean it up with the hose scattering the green paint Now the bear spot is just a reminder that uncle can't hold his own Uh, not without leaving a trace of himself behind. That's that's good. That's good shit. Uh, no pun intended Uh Yeah, for this kind of thing where yeah, I'm trying to give as much information as I can without it Feeling like I'm giving information So you were doing it intentionally. Um, I thought maybe it was just a subconscious thing that you you you know You've been doing this for so long that it just happens So you were intentionally doing it. That's cool. That's cool enough. Yeah. I mean, I'm trying essentially I'm trying to paint a picture. Yeah, you know of of You know to where each sentence matters and tells something like like you said with the with the jury. Okay Why what, you know, why would she sell her jewelry heart heart up apparently and we find out heart up because You know, they're spending their money on drugs and whatnot um I think I wrote it in the one of the As one of the chapters where the kid goes to um You know, they they usually they want him to shoplift. He's not down with that. So they usually I like the idea of you know, but the cousin for whatever reason Um, because I was thinking if we have this nine-year-old cousin and the 16-year-old takes off And if they're kind of like He leaves them behind You know in in a lot of stories He would do what he could to get This other kid out of there But I thought it'd be better if the kid The kid likes it. So when he does shoplift and comes home to bring stuff He's praised for it. It makes it feel really good that he did something for his family and his family. It's kind of record You know, it's pathetic. Yeah, it is but it makes sense. So it's like Psychologically it makes sense that he would want the reward because he doesn't get rewards You know, there is no happy times in this house. So Yeah And I just view the kid as being like maybe the the the woman in the relationship that she knows isn't good for her but she doesn't want to leave And um, so on some strange, you know, this kid being being as young as he is has um Like an unconditional love for his family doesn't maybe realize just how bad it is because He doesn't know What life could be like out what life is for other people outside of that This is all he knows so I thought maybe we should present that to where like The reason why our protagonist isn't rescuing this poor nine-year-old kid is because The nine-year-old kid doesn't think he needs to be rescued. He doesn't want to leave Yeah, um, but he's also not involved with although up with the exception of Yeah, I will go steal this stuff Where this kid is like, you know our protagonist He's not down with the stealing doesn't want to get caught doesn't think it's cool But he'll go dumpster diving, you know, which is something that that's regularly done, you know, I love I love that idea As I was reading over your notes, uh that you sent me Um, I love the I love the first three chapters. So the the way the way you outlined them And I'm completely down down with that. Um, I really like the idea of the mc going And dumpster diving to get out of having to steal and then the nine-year-old them not being happy with that So the nine-year-old just goes i'll take care of it, you know Just so he can get that uh, what serotonin or dopamine or whatever From actually getting praised because he's never praised for anything else. I love that. That's that's great Yeah I think I put that in like a later chapter, but uh, you know touching on it now and and this could I mean there could be a thousand words between The last two paragraphs, uh, oh, yeah to spread out. These are these are almost kind of just like Ideas, you know, and then, you know, you write a paragraph and you're like, you know what this this this needs to go up 14 paragraphs up, you know this this section right here Constantly moving things around I do that all the time Yeah Also daily stealing is an is an adrenaline rush too. So, um Yeah, maybe it could be like the kids almost kind of way of being getting high just like everybody else. Yeah Yeah, I'm really digging this Um, look at our notes quick. Yeah Yeah, we gotta start coming up with some names Yeah, I was I was thinking about that I don't know I I don't want to use this but the very first thing and probably just because of the cliche in the stereotype of this family Um, right off the bat for some odd reason I had uncle cletus and I was like that's way too The yes too on the nose for this But that's the only name that popped into my head while you were writing Um, and I was like and I don't I don't know Uh, whilst you guys are cooking I'm soupy Let them cook Let them cook For some reason my wife said you should name here because I told her this morning about what we were doing I told her the the premise and um She said you should name your kid Shane And uh, I said why is that and she just told me that she knew a kid named Shane that came from like lower class family and their house was Kind of like that, but also also we can use derrick, uh, alaska jones over on discord He's derrick jones here, but uh Um, we could use derrick's name also. I told him that I put him in a story. He doesn't have to be this one I'm just saying that I told him that I put him in a story because he was like, you know So either either one the the cousin could be derrick or the mc could be derrick. I like Shane too Um, I'm not sure which one I want for which but uh, I like I like Shane Shane can work in fact maybe the I don't know I think the young the young kid should have uh Like who the the kind of name that's like, why would you name your kid that? Oh, that's a good one. I'm almost like a either either a novelty or named after somebody that You know like alvis or it's just something like why would that's just cruel. Why would you do? It's a stupid name Just another testament to like man. These are horrible parents How how about duke and then dad is a john wane fan? Something like that Yeah, except duke kind of feels like Just like red necky. Okay. All right, uh, also Uh, I like travis for someone. I don't know but I do like I haven't used travis or shane ever I've used to derrick but not so uncle travis Sounds good to me and We want that to be our main uncle. Yeah, definitely the main uncle. Okay, so travis And then when uh, whoever's hollering at him, I'm guessing that's either That's the aunt and uncle talking. Yeah, it's gotta be the aunt. Yeah, so uh, um, but I would say she'd call him trav Okay, I would think and then when she's mad she can like call him travis and that's gonna be something subtle We we add in there Right now. She's like I ain't studying you kind of kind of shit But when she's really mad Travesty um Trying to think of something else We could give the boy a girl's name That's funny. You said that because I was I was literally just sitting here say I mean, it's not a girl's name, but it's associated with something on that side Which was butch, you know butch castity that that kind of thing. Um, but uh, let's see here um What Fuck it. I mean, do you you want to reference cash like just call him sue? Yeah, that was my first thought. Um, yeah We could do that. Yeah Sue or Cassidy And they call it cat Cassie all the time and he hates it. Yeah. Yeah, let's do that. I like Cassidy. I like Cassidy. Yes Let's do Cassidy. Um, and then yeah call him Cassie That's good. I like that Yeah, there's a western con Shane. Yeah But yeah, he Shane was more of like a the hero in trying to break the hero in white Stereotype, I don't think he was much an anti hero I can't remember like the I just remember how he rides off at the end and it's kind of open-ended But you know, he's dead. Um, I really love the very last shot of that movie It's one of my favorites in like cinematic history And the book's great too. So are we gonna go with Shane for uh for our mc? Okay I mean, I'm fine with that I don't I don't mind that at all at least as a placeholder for right now if we're not entirely if you're not entirely happy with Yeah, that's fine with me. It seems like a like a well-rounded simple name and not too common um So we got uncle uncle number two and then his 24 year old son and then his son's girlfriend I had an idea for a name for the for the pregnant girlfriend Which is bethany just so at some point in time someone could call her methani I know it's going to be coke, but I had methani is more of a new thing But bethany is the first name I thought of and then I thought it would be funny to do methani um, but uh, it is coke and it is the set the 70 80s 80s late 80s. Yeah, like 89 90. Yeah, that was the year I got attacked by a big old doggy Yeah methani. Yeah, it's something we say around here kind of like uh calling angry white women, uh, karen's Uh, you see some chick who's tweaking and it's methani um Okay, I guess we should uh Everybody um Everybody's last name They could all have the same last name right, um I don't know why first thing to pop into my head was charles. Um, as far as like last name shane charles travis charles It is like I that that's the first thing that popped into my head and I tend to go with whatever pops up first Okay So we need an ant name Could be something quick like ant jen The only thing that popped into my head was marjorie Um, that's the only thing that I got uh, jen or jan either one of those is fantastic. I like that All right, let's go the ant jen jen sounds weird. Okay Ant jen that's fine. I have an ant jen it and we call her ant jen Well, not anymore. I mean, I haven't seen her since I was like 15 I don't even thought about her but yeah rita can be another one. Definitely a rita. Uh We can call the Let's do ant rita. I like the name. Yeah, um, and then we can call the other one The pregnant girlfriend jen if you wanted to We we could just cast together here in a second. That's for sure We could just stick with Bethany, okay, you you decided to use bethany. That's fine. That's fine Okay, so we need uncle number two and then his son All right, um, man, the only thing i'm coming up with is like the most basic ass shit like dug Um, what about duet duet duet duet. Yeah, d e w i t t Yeah, do it. They could call them duet Uh Like we should have like one person in the family like the the the nine-year-old calls everyone by their full name Okay Yeah, yep um, and then What about con the 24 year old son? Dwight like you got duet and dwight I don't know if that's duet corny for you dude, but it's not too corny I just I worry because we have so many people that oh, yeah, you're right. No, you're you're right That'd be way too fucking confusing. Um All right, let's see here I said the stupidest it's it's because of the books I have behind me, but I was like let's call them layered Hunter Hunter feels like something they might name our kid I like hunter literally this is this is the reason Is I got layered hunt books sitting here? And I said layered at front at first that I was like, no, that's just fucking stupid. That's rich rich people name Um, and then hunter popped in and I was like that'll work But anyways, uh, and any of this stuff can change at any time. So that hunter, uh All right, so we got Shane Rita Travis duet, dewy hunter Bethany Cassidy calls him Cassie Yeah The name bank is growing I love it I can't wait to get right to sorry get to boobs Find out who that guy is Yeah, it's gonna be great Uh, ooh everybody loves boobs. Oh, that is such a good That's the magic man. That's that's the magic on the air for which simple shit like that Okay Chapter one protag chucking rocks into old copycams sitting on the rickety front porch his family fight the house behind him demonstrate the unhealthy dynamics of the house Hangs out with nine-year-old cousin gets him out of the house chapter ends with uncle one bringing him. Okay, so I think I think what we'll do is Um to try to stick with that maybe go up Uh, like save the scene where the where the uh Bethany comes out and have The boy come out instead the the um What's his name Cassidy? And sit next to him, you know, and they talk and then maybe they um Uh Yeah, they just kind of hang out and talk it gets in a little bit What I would do in this situation if you wanted to have Cassidy come out I mean like have him come out and sit down and just like start chucking gravel with him And then they could have like this simple conversation that starts like Uh, there ain't no food in the house. So Expect them to ask one of us to go out some some shit. I don't know something like that. Um, something that you know just normal ass Conversation that isn't really focused because they're both chucking rocks I did the same thing in bay's end So I don't know if you want to like repeat that kind of thing But when uh Tray and Eddie are walking down the street kicking the rock. It's almost like they're taking turns Talking one will kick the rock the other one will kick the rock and um It is almost like a bonding thing for these two boys to sit out there and chuck gravel in the and one of them does it one of Shane does it to for the good sound and Cassidy does it just because of the camaraderie You know that kind of thing is what he's playing along implied exactly. So especially for a nine-year-old Okay, and I I don't know if you want to foreshadow talking about there's no food in the house or not, but Um, that would be the only thing that where I would go with that. Um, just to get the conversation kick started Um, maybe I was thinking like having some kind of like dialogue where It's spoken but the reader isn't exactly sure what they're talking about just yet. Yeah, I like Yeah, yes, and then you find out. Oh, he's gonna go He's this is this is what they do He's gonna go steal some food and this, you know, maybe have Shane say something like, um You know, you don't have to do that. Yeah And I can testify that You can most definitely live off Dumpsters because I know I have done it We uh, when we were in pretty well first off I was homeless twice. I've been homeless twice in my life And um, my favorite was Whole Foods dumpsters Um, because they would just they would throw out the best shit like salads Other and kinds of stuff that were pre-packaged Um, and they don't open them up and discard them that way. They they just throw them out there a whole So Whole Foods, uh, Costco and Sam's Club those dumpsters were fucking gold That's where I got all of my food from and I didn't have to worry about anything being dirty because all that stuff was packaged So, uh, yeah, we didn't have those. Um, I didn't know any better looking back There's a couple grocery stores that probably could have went but I never knew that That food was thrown out at grocery stores. I didn't know that till I was way older. So I always hit um the little Caesars and this is back when, uh They had pizza pizza where I don't think they still have that where you have to get two pizzas The other one's free and they won't give you just one pizza even if you try And I remember those days and and the pizza was squared. So I remember pizza pizza. That was their whole thing these were Well, they came in like rectangles that were just like oh, yeah rectangles not squares but yes rectangles and uh, yeah, so either um I I watched a movie in the 80s called street wise about homeless kids and I learned a trick from there if you want To get a pizza that you want Then you order it and you don't go pick it up. Right. They'll throw it out and then you get your pizza um, like if you want the toppings I Don't remember if I ever did that you have to do it at shift change though That's the only cap up because they're they're gonna be taking the trash closer to closing time Right that or that or that and then yeah, you can get whatever you want because it's just gonna go in the trash And usually they don't bother pouring it out. They just throw the box and everything in the dumpster so but you know pizza Just like most people Like my favorite food that mexican and I'll tell you what I never thought of that get get tired of pizza But my fridge I lived in a little at this particular time I have been homeless twice, but this particular time I had an efficiency apartment and um I lived right around the corner from pizza place. I was so broke and all I had was like I had been eating a lot of peanut butter or toast because I was getting like um From like the charitable place or whatever they'd give you like a big thing of the black and white generic peanut butter That you had to add sprinkles or sugar because it just didn't taste like peanut butter And then roasted nuts and everything it was just basic ass peanuts blended in the peanut butter yeah, and then it lives the bread and uh I didn't have a toaster So I would just I would throw like 12 pieces of bread in the in my oven And then cook them up and dude. I'm serious. I'd make a stack, you know, like 14 inches tall of just Peanut butter toast scarf that but when I got tired of that. Yeah, I did the pizza thing Filled my fridge with pizza um Different, you know different cut with pineapple on it with with supreme. It's just pepperoni whatever And I got so tired of eating that pizza Just for breakfast and lunch and dinner. So I started going to I hit Taco Bell and McDonald's or uh burger king That's next to impossible to try to try to try to find something that isn't just nasty slop Right squish down in there. You're absolutely correct because they throw everything in a waste bucket And it all gets mixed up and it might be wrapped but they usually come Come come apart or it's a fuck up on the line So they haven't even wrapped the sandwich. Yes, and they just throw it into the waste bucket And then the manager has to go through all that stuff. But yeah, you're absolutely right now. Uh, I do remember, uh, this wasn't you know Dumpster diving, but uh, one of the things that I would do this is how long ago I was homeless the uh, I think 39 cent taco sundaes Uh at Taco Bell I would get um, I would You know panhandle for the entire week And then I would go there on sundae and get as many tacos as I could afford And then I would eat those over the next couple and I wouldn't get any lettuce or Cheese on it. It was just the meat and the the thing because the lettuce would go bad And so with the cheese, but that meat lasts fucking forever Strangely. Yeah, exactly. Uh, and I would eat off that I'm pretty sure I gave myself food poisoning because I would literally eat off that unrefrigerated Taco Bell for like five to six days until I finally ran out. But yeah anyways, um Um cheerios what the oh, hang on one of my housemates got free food from her church She would never eat the cheerios. So we had about 30 boxes oddly enough When I went to food pantries around here food pantries around here will give you like a case of fucking lemons Like it's it's just stuff that the that the grocery stores don't want so they donate it Um, they donate a certain amount to the food pantries around here. So you you're never guaranteed anything nutritional Um, you just you get what you get Um, and we've gotten an entire crates of cantaloupe that were nearly rotted. We've gotten Uh expired milk, not even shelf-stable milk just milk that had it already expired Well, it's a best buy date nowadays so they can legally do that. Um, that's why they stopped doing expiration dates because Uh, if you if they sell something after expiration date, they can be held responsible with a best buy date They can't be held responsible. That's why they shipped it. Um, anyways, um so I'm I'm also With with this I There was I once again, there was a point I was trying to make with this and now I can't remember what the fuck it was um Oh, yeah, the the food pantry So, uh, but the most like the craziest thing we ever got was an entire case of lemons I'm talking like 300 lemons and we had no idea what to do with it We didn't have any flour or anything like that to like make like lemon bread or whatever Um, and it just like what what the hell this is an insult like what am I going to do with a case of lemons And a jug of expired milk or or a case of rotting cantaloupe And while you know, you you feel bad for not being appreciative at the same time again What the hell is as someone who's already struggling and going to do with a case of lemons? Honestly, like when just make yourself a bunch of Yeah, there you go Right that's a fuckload of lemonade though Uh, I'm so tired of taste of peanut butter here have a lemon Anyways, um, yes, I I'm gonna go ahead and take a break because I've already been in the chair for over an hour Me and chad talk about 15 minutes before this Um, and if you want to continue writing or just talk to chat or or whatever I'll hit I'll hit you guys back when I get when I get back All right Mute my Hang on. Was there anything you wanted to talk about before hang on No, okay. All right. Just making sure I just realized Don't need to type on that I'll think maybe I do Thank you lazy. I did All right, I got to write something something just Popped into my head. I got to get this down before I forget it do it Sorry, I can't even hear you all right geez I uh, I also do this thing. Yeah, I'm sure you probably do it too or If something pops into my head, it's not going to be used for Could be 15,000 words later. I don't know I will Have a section called use later or something and then yeah Those at the bottom Yeah, I do I do the same thing. I just did one Where where uh Shane sticks up for It comes out the cassey thing like that. He doesn't like it comes out and it's just a quick got you It's funny you bring up the bread and peanut butter because what i'm writing over here I guess I can just throw this in also For the use later just so you can read it Um Let's put it Is it not is it really not going to let me do this? Oh, you can't use oh lord. I don't know if this is going to mess you up, but it no you're fine that that formatting Uh, no, that's uh I'm not worried about that The sinks of science experiment moonlighting as an entomologist wet dream plates fuzzy with mold scattered in both basins A spoon stands on hand in one corner A cockroach stuck in the peanut butter coating the utensil dangles from the side like a mountain climber writhing languidly Dead flies float in a faded and scratched cool with container their bodies drifting across gray water that smells vaguely of hidden valley Someone's smashed a moth on the rim of the sink is what I've got so far. Nice so I was thinking maybe open up chapter two with that or so I don't I don't know but we'll use it somewhere I really Let me read what you've got since I um if you go to uh The screen door screams. I I took uh, beth any out and put cassidy in instead. Okay I like that imagery the ears being too big That's cool. Yeah, waiting to see if travis comes out and yeah Yeah, I like that Probably be more of a tink or a ping with a tink, right? With if it's like a coffee can it'd definitely be a tink like a tink It would definitely be something like that if it was like like a tin can would be more like a plank um, it's just a much thinner Uh aluminum or tin or whatever the fuck they use Um, but I mean plank works fine too. I mean either one of them But I I do like tink and manage strawberry jam And I was thinking uh pregnant girlfriend can be on uh, bethany can be on wick So they can get the they they could technically get the peanut butter for free and then he could shop lift the strawberry jam to go with it so, uh I don't know if they had I can't remember when they started wick I thought it was It might have been actually it might have been no tanaf came later I'm looking it up I remember I remember being on on uh What was called ga where? government assistance. Yeah, and um Which is which is insane to think that a very healthy 16 17 year old kid the first time I got on it. I was on I was 17 that a healthy 17 year old Guy with no kid just too lazy to work can get food stamps and have my rent paid That did not help me No, I mean it helped me to continue all my bad habits and just be lazy, but it didn't help me get a job I was like wait a minute. I can eat for free and have my rent paid to just skateboard and playing vans all day and don't have to Sound sounds awesome, but life is good. Yeah And takes away from the people who actually need it Uh, let's see here. So yeah, october 7th 1975 pl 94 dash 105 established wick is a permanent program Uh, the legislation stated congress finds that substantial numbers of pregnant women infants and young children are at special risk in respect to their physical and mental health By reason of poor or inadequate nutrition or health care or both so But of course all you get in that is like beans milk Peanut butter formula, I think yeah formula if it's babies. Um, but of course they wouldn't use that yet Of course when the baby comes, um So yeah 75 and if I mean at any point in time are we going to be like it is 1989 or can it just be assumed that you know just by The fact that there's like what h eight tracks and cassettes and no dbd No, no dbds and cds or whatever, you know I think eight tracks are pretty much dead by 89, but okay. All right. So y'all fancy motherfuckers might have had no Sorry, but I know my my dad had an eight track player in the house and in his truck And he he used eight tracks not that they were still coming out, but he used eight tracks all the way up until like 92 Um, so yeah, he he loved his eight tracks. We couldn't get him to change over It's almost like trying to get my mom to use a touch screen cell phone Uh, we couldn't get them to change over to those Respectively, you know, it took years Um, and from what my mom said it took years for him to go from Records to eight tracks like he didn't even like to start subscribing not subscribing but buying eight tracks until uh the uh Until it just was A cheaper option than buying a record. Um, but anyways, uh, and I think his record player broke I'm not sure But uh, I know we had the eight track player and then eventually we got a combo Which was in which was a record player and an eight track One of those big silver faced ones. I think that was after his mother died He got $10,000 bought himself a new truck didn't he'll pay off any other credit card debt mom and racked up Um went out and bought that thing and then two like two fucking like wood grain speakers that were taller than me at that point, but anyways uh, so I was like that with cds. I I Used to drive me crazy that my little brother would when cds start coming out getting popular He goes like 91 92 and my little brother would spend 18 dollars on a cd And I'd be like dude, I can get two almost two cassettes for the price that you're paying for one cd So I continued with the cassettes um still buying a while he would spend 18 bucks on them and the new uh, you know Smashing pumpkins or ellison chains or something and I'd be like dude, I can Save so much more money and get more music, but he was right I remember um People being so against Uh cds because of the the quality was so good Like it didn't you know, and it was the same thing with like, uh records You know people were like, you know, it doesn't have the same feel the same gritty texture as as a You know, even a a cassette or a or a vinyl Yeah There was like big drama for that one. I don't know why but it was um There's something else I was going to say about cd. Oh, yeah, um, I actually am in the club I never because I was so broke Between the time that you know cds. I have never bought a brand new cd. The only cds. I've ever bought were from, uh A warehouse music And that was the used ones because I just couldn't afford like you were saying, you know, they're 18 fucking dollars But uh, sometimes, you know, you could get Relatively new cd at warehouse Uh, someone had traded in uh for like, you know, less than 10 bucks and then of course they had like the the small ones Uh, like the bins they would have and it'd be like 99 cents or The best the best part about warehouse was the buy to get too free That they they ran that sale a lot Especially in my area and I would go down there and just load up on on cds We also had a place in troya, alabama for the longest time and that's where we moved when we first moved from california Um, it was a place called ad cds and it was another second hand Place like warehouse, but it was a little mom and pop operation And I would go in there and blow my entire paycheck when I was like 16 17 years old Um, I was working at burger king as a crew member and my check would be like 120 dollars I would blow that entire 120 dollars on CDs only I remember buying entire collections of like everything nine-inch nails had out at that time Everything metallica mega death slayer cannibal corpse all that stuff They had such a huge selection and they were cheap as hell Um, and then you also had a punch card and for every five that you bought you get one free So yeah, I would go in there and I would get you know 10 to 15 CDs at a time But I have never purchased a brand new cd ever which is hilarious because I purchased all of my music now digitally Um, and I don't use the the streaming services unless I already have the album And I don't have the album with me or downloaded or whatever and I don't have any signal then you know, then I'll listen to the I'll I'll but anyways, but I will if I have a signal and I'm out I will listen to that thing or whatever, you know, or let's say shells in the car. I don't have my phone I can pull up amazon music whatever But I still buy CDs. I still buy vinyl yeah Not often because it's expensive, but there's a couple artists that They're they're stuff. I I specifically want On vinyl am I I must have at least 800 900 records Not as many CDs, but several hundred CDs as well And wow shell shell would get a kick out of seeing your collection. She loves shit like that her father had a massive Final collection that uh, her mother has now and she was shell was hoping she was gonna get it But no one passed it down. So now Uh, it just sits in the my mother-in-law's closet collecting dust because she doesn't listen to him I'm like, oh the tragedy of it all but anyways, but uh, I got another I got a good Good friend who has like over 20,000 vinyl um, and uh, he's very very well off, but uh, yeah, and also he's got something like 10,000 physical books and a thousand of those are like, uh Not like they're not the gift editions of like cemetery dance stuff But the actual like lettered editions that cost like $1,200. He's got like a thousand of those Dude's collection is worth like a million bucks. It's it's it's insane But uh, yeah, she's always like we gotta we gotta see your we gotta go visit your friend just so I can see She she loves shit like that. I still buy CDs I think the only CD I bought new was Ozzie's latest album and I saw it at Walmart and nabbed it I didn't even know he had a new album out I I bought that one too. Well, it came out Was it the end of last year or maybe earlier this year? I bought it I think the last CD I bought uh brand new was Maybe last month. I got anthrax among the living which I already own on cassette, but I didn't have it on on cd We were just talking about on a stream a couple nights ago. I asked anybody if they knew what among the living What what they're talking about in it, you know, it's a stand. Well, you know, you know this but uh They wrote a lot of they've got at least four or five songs that have to do with uh, steven king books Yeah, that's that's what I was telling everybody in chat I was like anthrax a huge huge fans of steven king because they've written numerous songs just based on his stuff I wrote an article for decibel magazine, uh about Songs that were written for uh based on horror books And I think anthrax was one of the fans I used I I hope I hope you touched on pet cemetery by the romans I still I have a a folk cover of that one. That's really uh, really interesting that I it's an arrangement I did myself on my acoustic I don't know if I did or not, uh Google the I don't want to be buried pet cemetery I've thought about releasing it on the channel, but I worry about copyright stuff like that so Uh, I used Uh, do you know pro-bot is? It's uh david david grohl's uh Kind of like hardcore project Had no idea pro-bot Pro-bot. Yeah, it's it's it's basically david grohl wrote a bunch of songs and um like uh from hardcore to like heavy metal and Picked a bunch of singers and they all singed on st Wow I are a writer they all sang on them Um, I said botan the other day and my entire family just stopped everything they were doing And just stared at me for a thing. I was like, did you just say botan? Like I I had botan Yeah, a pro-bot song that uh curt from dr I sing on an accused song black Sabbaths behind the wall of sleep misfits hollywood babel on Shake your blood featuring lemmy. Oh chris would my my youngest would love that. He just got in the motorhead He hit me with that in the car yesterday. He's like, uh Hand me the ox cable. So I hand him back the ox cable and he puts on ace of spades and I'm like And before you start playing he goes warning these this song will probably be stuck in your head all day and it just it starts playing I'm like What the fuck why are you listening to motorhead? I wasn't like saying he couldn't but it was just like where did that even come from and uh He's a big fan of the Ramones. So it popped up in his uh recommended on Spotify And uh, he was he was like, uh, do you know this one? I was like, yeah, I know I fucking know this one. I used to play this one in a band But I suspect like I used to get into character and everything for the fucking song. But anyways, um Um, yeah, he's 11 listening to mega death and slayer. He's basically me just did in a different body It's uh, because I was listening to all those bands at about that age, too Professional writers. Yes I'm a jake and put that one up on screen Button is probably correct your big grammar I have a million cassettes. I taped off harvard and mit's punk and pop radio shows But I just listened to vinyl and songs on youtube That was a unique scenario. I was trying to describe why the only reason and I I didn't I don't think I got to my point Well enough and it doesn't matter. It really doesn't but uh There was something I was going to bring up that I I'd still listen to streaming I can't remember the unique situation I was in where I had to listen to streaming instead of my downloaded music I can't remember what the hell it was. So anyways My damn adhd brain gets stuck on stupid shit like that. Oh, I need to move this down to Later scene And if you want we can see Highlight these different colors or something. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna do that Well, that's not that's not easy in the eyes. That is I was about to say that Loves me some purple, but yeah, that's hard to read Yeah Also, if you're back to writing you're still on the infinity screen Okay So, you know Yeah, you you did write convenient store. I kind of chuckled inwardly. I might have even chuckled outwardly when I read it Um, but that was just because I did the same thing. I've done convenient store. I read uh one of uh Jake's stories on stream for game night. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, and uh, it said convenient store And I just I chuckled because I do that quite often also Speech to text does that to me all the time because I don't know how to spell convenience Uh, I get it wrong every single time. That's another way I use the speech to text So, um, I get sheriff wrong every time really? Yes, that's an interesting one. I've never had a problem with that one um Also for some odd reason and this is driving me absolutely that shit fucking crazy as a as a writer and someone that I believe is at least of moderate intelligence myself Suddenly I've started saying supposedly And I'm like just fucking stop it just stop Next you're going to be saying irregardless even though that shit is in the dictionary now. That's ridiculous Yeah, sheriff. I'm like two r's and two f's or just two r's and one f or is it one of our two f's? Sure JB starts the story at the laundromat I like to give my favorite Views since they literally have songs that have been posted for 15 years and have 2 000 views If I'm typing really fast Then I'll do that a lot where I misspell things or use similar words that aren't the one I'm meaning to write Yeah, we all do it man. There's nothing to be embarrassed about not saying you're embarrassed, but it's we all do it um and think about this one of the most famous typos of all time And this these books sold millions is in the original twilight Stephanie meyer wrote a moat of dust But she used the wrong moat and it was like a castle moat And when I read that I was just tackling and I was like that's a lot of fucking dust Anyways, and I stopped reading after that because I was like if her editor didn't catch that Uh, if that one got through I do not have hopes for the any any of the other books in this series I gave the first book a hundred pages and uh But you're you're a you're a good good man. I think it's just the most cliche thing that I've ever read It's just it's the most boring. It's like bc andrew's writing I still remember the time steven king Was high as a kite and he was doing an interview on television And he had peter straw sitting right next to him and they were talking about the best and worst writers of of that It was like the late 80s. Maybe early. No, it was definitely the 80s Didn't they have another that is that the one with ira levin and I I think so But what king says has always stuck with me and someone asked him about bc andrews And he says bc andrews is currently writing the worst prose in literature And I'm just like you and you can tell he's coped out of his mind He's like his eyes are even twitching to the kind of like the dude in uh identity, you know He's just like he's just whilin out and straw to sit no where they're like like this Well when your friend's high and you're not he's just Like why are we talking shit about our fellow writers just move on Yeah, there's a there's a really cool interview. I don't remember if king is on it But it's ira levin peter straw And somebody else and they're all just smoking cigarettes like crazy. Yeah Yeah During this interview, they're both they're they're both smoking too But there was a there was a third author. I don't think I've ever seen ira levin So it might have been him But I just I remember I remember that uh that quote so much bc andrews is writing the worst prose in literature I've never I've never read uh vc andrews, but I did just recently get uh flowers in the attic Gotcha, it's it's basic stuff. It's the She well, it's now andrew neederman took over when she died, but uh, she originally I mean it was you know what people were there for when they bought her books It was not there for a high literary experience. So I mean she she did what people wanted Uh, uh e I milled your care package off this morning estimated to get there on friday fucking rad Thank you zoop. Appreciate you Yeah, jacob that that that's probably the one I know I know it's like in the late 70s Oh, this was the what I'm when I'm the that's definitely not what I'm talking about cool that you you know Which one it was but uh the one that I'm talking about they're they're at a book site and there's a tape There's like a card table and strobe sitting there He's got on like a blue shirt king has on this brown blazer and his thick black rimmed glasses And he says that and you can just tell he is just fucking geeked out of his mind on something Oh, yeah, did I finish what you wrote? Yeah, I did. Okay, also I'm gonna go up here and do the mad sounds chapter hitting Yeah, jake. I've seen I've seen that typo in pet cemetery. I've made note of it in one of my copies too Because they they still haven't they still haven't Fixed it like I have this the new trade paperback or mass market paperback edition and it's still in there Cassidy is now missing both his canines like they fell out I added that to his description up here Okay, I did the I did the um shaped head because uh It's like the lazy haircut. Yeah, definitely a hundred percent. I like that I thought he'd be uh make him even more endearing to have you know, it's his wide mile wide grin Uh showing off the black spaces where he's recently lost clean. I used to be it's even more uh Even more endearing Lots of books have someone Being given free reign. What do you mean lazy? Oh, okay. I got you. Yeah, that was one Uh, I read an entire book where every time and it came up oddly often, uh Instead of taught as in you taught someone Uh, the author wrote t a u t every single time like it's a taught situation Or the rope was taught I was like, uh, come on. That's simple I need a backyard of me. I want a hundred and fifty thousand You think we got too many people living in this house I was thinking uh to fix that situation they could have like a storage shed like duct taped onto the back Like, you know something some kind of thing Uh, I I like the idea. Uh, hey vamp. How you doing? I ain't seen you in a while. Um I like the idea of having that many people In there it might be a bit crowded like writing wise But I do I do like the idea of all those people being stuck in this one Cramped place and everybody's just desperate, you know for a better life Uh, but uh, I mean, yeah, do what you want, man. If you want to kill somebody Like character wise like being able to I know what you're getting. Yeah being able to give because if if we took out One of the guys um Because I'm trying to you know, I want them to all like have personality But I also don't want people to get confused like uncle uncle uncle son. Yeah, I was I was thinking of Um, if we got rid of anyone when you just brought this up the first person I thought we can get rid of is the other uncle Um and just have his kids His 24 year old son and his pregnant wife Living with them, you know, and that that could easily get because I don't see that character in my head at all I see travis. I see rita. I see bethany. I see, uh, I already forgot the The son's name, uh hunter. Um hunter. I see kassidy. I see shane Yeah, it would be the it would be the other one. Is it more than 10? No, I don't think so So we got rita bethany Hunter kassidy shane and travis is six Am I missing someone if we get rid of the other uncle? Uh, no shane and rita local travis Hunter bethany and kassidy. Yeah Yeah, yeah, uncle do it might be too much Yeah, but I don't I don't see him anyways So I was in interested in seeing what you were going to do with him or if I if I was going to take it on Did the brady's and full house have too many people? It's a little easier to keep track of people when it's a television show. Yeah, and visually you could see you got faces Yeah, but we got to have the uh Full house had too many when it became full You know, we're probably going to be you know, like the uh the carnival not that we're going to describe every single person But that's probably going to be a nice handful of Yeah characters. I mean, we only have Three now or four the ferris wheel guy boobs whoever boobs is and uh shenna shingo and shenna My wife asked me today. She goes you got a you got a name for the girl to carnival yet. They said yeah shenna she goes shenna I said shenna. Yeah as in henna But with an s in front of it. She said what I said don't ask never heard that name before. It's just a word You're writing a basically like a coming of age 16 year old boy living Harry Potter style with his aunt and uncle and a bunch of other people in this either trailer park or rundown house, whatever And the uncle is stealing is going to be stealing a bag of cocaine Then the main character shane who's 16 steals the cocaine from his uncle and runs off with the carnival And meets a girl, you know that that's pretty much the build-up And then it's the carnival is going to be on the road So it's going to be a kind of like very laxed cat and mouse Chase until shit goes down later on and it'll become more tense so on and so forth Uh, but that's just of what we're doing But yay for carnival story I could write I could only write carnival stories and be happy the rest of my career Carnival circus amusement park boardwalk any of that shit Oh There was literally a Child nutrition and wick reauthorization act of 1989 So that year they changed things This definitely isn't way No, it's no We're gonna get dark. I promise you Not that why he doesn't get dark, but yeah, it's definitely not why They could get government cheese too. They didn't stop. I'll tell you what 90s If the government ever gave free food, it was freaking awesome. It was that cheese That uh, that stuff was like was like cocaine in and of itself that shit. We used that for everything Loved that cheese plain rectangle box It's a big break of cheese in Lansdale's freezer burn the uh The the main attraction like the the uh the anchor of his whole the whole side show because they have a freak show and stuff is this uh block of ice that has a Prehistoric man in it that he lugs around everywhere That's that's funny It is It's like his pride and joy He does everything just to keep that thing frozen And you're never really sure if it is if it's a really a prehistoric guy or just a dead guy in there That's cool. Okay, Jake. Yeah, sounds good. I'm gonna change this, uh, baby filled to her mountainous pregnant belly What do you think? Okay Go with that. I don't know baby fields bothering me for some fucking reason I was gonna do planetary, but that's a little too illiterative for that sentence because it would be her Uh, planetary pregnant belly reaching the porch first. That's a lot of peas Anyways, the arms That's a great spot of humor It comes out of nowhere I love this kid. What is this chick's name? I keep forgiving this chick's name. Oh, yeah Rita or Bethany. Oh, I like that the soot covered screen turning his skin and eerie black Where did all go? I did leave it on accident. Oh, okay I brought it back I moved that later piece up to this discussion here Gotcha Yeah, feel free to to toss in to help differentiate all the characters Descriptive things. Yeah here and there Um, I've been layering some as as they kind of grow in my head I also don't want to do too much right now because I don't want to break your momentum While you're writing and I don't want to change anything new While you're still in that area, right? I gotta get some lunch. I'm either you're gonna stop here Or I can hit my camera and hang out and eat but No, I think I think we're good. We've been going for two hours. Um, we can always do more later or I mean It's whatever you really want to do. I'm fine the rest of the day So if you just want to take a break and come back and do another episode or if you want to eat on camera I don't really have anything else to add right now. Um, I'm still formulating Well, I I have been adding and I think I've added a considerable amount actually Uh, but yeah, the later scene down here. I got several paragraphs already done Um, so we put it we put in work today. That's that's for sure and it's going wonderfully um And if I if I were to do anything else today, I would probably just be layering what you already have Uh with like character descriptions and whatnot I also want to try and fit in Where the most natural place for this wick discussion is? um Just to throw it in there that they do have money for something But maybe they're out of vouchers because there is there's six fucking people living off one person's wick so They'll be using their their uh food stamps to buy gum so that they get the 75 cents back for each dollar I don't know if you ever did that before but no I didn't Oh, yeah, because you you can't you know, you obviously can't buy cigarettes and stuff with uh, right Food stamps so you buy a pack pack a big red And then you just you have another friend buy a pack a big red another friend Yeah, I used to do that. I didn't know you could do that. I'm no wonder they switched over the ebt cards Um, but uh, this is back when you had booklets of like the paper right right the actual food stamps um, and now it's the ebt card, but uh I would I don't think he his drink drink a thing. Yes, I have I got my copy. I've been drinking anyways Hang on, uh, I'm getting distracted by chat. Uh We used to sell our food stamps like uh 50 cents and a dollar kind of thing So if we had 100 we would make 50 bucks that kind of thing. Um, but that's the only thing I've really Really ever did as far as that was concerned. Um, but yeah, we were on all that government assistance when I was growing up And uh, it was funny because I kind of you were talking about how it was a Cushion for you to you know, just be lazy Uh, when I needed it, I couldn't fucking get it. That was the that was the crazy part is like, you know You're you're working. You should be able to pay for this that and the other. I was like, I'm literally homeless Working all my money is going to trying to find a place to live or it's going to food How am I supposed to find a place to live when I'm only making you know, I think it was like 5 25 an hour back then Um, but anyways, it was it was a mess uh But yeah, I used to when I was younger mom would literally have me go sell The food stamps to I didn't even know you could do that. I didn't think they gave you cash back at all I thought it was a matter of you know, you just had to lose that money or get you know over that amount I didn't know they gave you your cash back. Um Maybe my mom do that, but I didn't but yeah, she would send me over to neighbors and it's like go trade this in They know how much to pay So and that's why we were stuck eating What we ate, which was basically the bear bear minimum Um, we didn't have milk for like four years Uh, because we couldn't afford it and that was back when milk was like a you know, like it wasn't any more than a dollar 50 Uh, and we had to drive through dairy in our uh In our neighborhood and that place was even more expensive But it was the closest place so dad would go down to get that because he was lazy He didn't want to get out of his truck And you pull up and tell people I don't know if you've ever done a drive through Dairy, but you literally pull up and it's like a convenience store But you drive up tell the person what you want and then they grab everything and you pay for it So, um, yeah, there's a party there's a party store around here like that But not not like specifically dairy got you they they literally called them dairy Drive up dairies when but there was more stuff there. There was candy bars You know other groceries and whatnot, but you didn't have to get out of the car Uh, you just pull up tell the person behind where that it was Usually like a small brick building and it was just an open face Convenience store and then the corrugated metal Door the garage door basically would would never be all the way up there to always be this this line of that Anyways, but yeah, uh good amazing work today. Um Looking forward to convenient convenient store milk. Yes convenient milk store. Yes Yes, not convenient store can a convenient milk store. Yes, but they had other things other than dairies But that's what we called them was a drive-up dairy Um, just like it took me a long time when I first moved out here to stop calling every gas station I went to a liquor store because out in california The liquor the the gas stations had liquor, you know out here they don't I don't know what it's like up in michigan, but um the year I remember when I I I I lived in denver for a little while in the 80s and when I remember moving out there And anytime I would say party store They're like, what the heck are you talking about like we get balloons and stuff I'm like, what no where you go to party man. You get your party supplies You know, you get either like you meet a liquor store. I'm like, okay. Yeah liquor store Out here a liquor store is like the abc store or whatever. Um, that's uh, That's what they call liquor store out here because you can't sell hard liquor Anything over a certain abv you can't sell uh at the at a convenience store grocery store here And then some some counties are dry sundaes Mine just switched like two years ago to where you can actually buy alcohol on a sunday And the only place you could get it before that was like shorter where they have the uh, the Native american racetrack and casino and all that stuff because it's their land you can do whatever they can do whatever they want um, and shorter didn't sell like, uh Beer cans or anything like that to charge as much as possible. They would literally run a keg into old milk cartons Sanitized and whatnot, but you'd get a you'd get an entire gallon of beer Is that was the only and then there was a one point in time draft beer was illegal here You could only do the bottles or stuff stuff like I don't even know why any of these rules existed But uh, yeah, so shorter was the only place you could get draft beer and it was the only place you could get beer on sundaes Uh, so yeah, I spent a lot of time in shorter when I was younger. That's for that's for damn sure anyways um I don't know where i'm gonna fit in all the stuff that I wrote but It's good to have it there. Well, I mean, yeah I I put in I put in here that uh, uh That travis is in a good mood on this day and i'm thinking it's because he got he he got the cocaine So he's in a better mood and he's you know, this is right after he's he's Accomplished the thieving of it so Maybe he hasn't told everybody yet Uh, I said he's in a good mood today, and I don't want to ruin it anyways. So yeah, uh, thank you guys for joining us I'm going to head inside and then I shoot a bunch of videos. Sorry. There was no pre-recorded video today But I figured if there's still a video today It's whatever, uh, but you got a review for this book coming tomorrow. So you look forward to that. Um Do you want no, uh, we're not streaming tomorrow morning because I have a doctor's appointment Do you want to do something later in the day or do you just want to call it? quits until I would but I got final guys tonight and I haven't watched the main feature. Yeah so, um, I probably I probably shouldn't yeah, let's let's just quit off for tomorrow. Um, and and tonight and We'll do thursday. We'll get back on a thursday morning nine o'clock. Is that cool or ten o'clock for you? Yeah, ten o'clock. Yeah All right, so we'll see you guys on thursday. Thanks again for watching But until next time I'll hail the cheese