 Good evening everyone welcome to tonight's come on council meeting I'd like to point out that the meeting as of now is not being recorded live There's some technical problems so to speak If those are corrected then we'll go on live will announce to the community But it is being tape recorded, so it will be shown at a subsequent day. Okay Being before we start our meeting. We always ask our city clerk to read the quote for the week Of all the attitudes we can acquire surely the attitude of gratitude is the most important and by far the most life-changing Thank you very much Call the 10th regular meeting of the common council to order. Please call the rule Quorum is present this time all McLean is with your leaders in the pledge Of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands One nation under god Indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank you very much all McLean is Approval of the minutes president hannah Thank you, mr. Mayor. I would make a motion to approve the minutes second motion and second to approve minutes under discussion There is none all in favor say aye. Aye any opposed Motion carries minutes are approved Resignation attorney McLean thank your honor. There's a letter dated to august 11th through the mayor from herald biebel advising that Regretfully he's resigning his position on the spoigen park and forestry commission due to His wife's ill health And need a motion to accept and file So moved mayor second second motion made in second under discussion All in favor say aye. Aye any opposed Motion carries Mayor's appointments terribly I hereby submit the following appointments for your consideration to the special committee on handheld mobile telephone use Alderman mar canna alderman maro and monta myrore deputy chief al and shirvin assistant city attorney chuck adams and lisa genero All terms expiring 10 9 0 8 signed by the mayor And these appointments lie over Thank you attorney mclean Next we go to public forum. Madam city clerk Thank you. Excuse me first on the list will be tom gessler. Is mr. Gessler here Mr. Gessler could you get the mic up kind of close to you that it'll work better 1711 south 12th street she walking And you will have five minutes. Thank you. I'd like to address the council tonight as you all know There's quite a bit of a crime going on in this community Okay, I Had a couple issues in the last year here where I had vandalism and the sort that sort of stuff happening at my residence And in our neighborhood It's my understanding. We're very shorthanded on the police department. Okay, no reason for that The only reason I can see is naturally we're trying to keep taxes down. I agree with that 100 percent However, I asked the council and the mayor That we get more officers patrolling especially in certain areas We're having a lot of crime going on. I was a victim of crime probably 1500 in the last year We're having everything go on in our neighborhood. So I asked that the council and the mayor consider hiring more officers Older people in my neighborhood won't even walk at night anymore. A lady came over today. She said I'm afraid to walk after dark I go for a walk in the evening. I'm lucky if I see an officer between union avenue and broadway avenue It's time folks as a council. I'm asking and as the mayor I'm asking that we somehow come up with some money I know it's hard to do but come up with some money to take care of this This is public safety and it must be addressed now. Thank you Thank you very much This time I'm going to make some comments regarding a water safety initiative and talk a little bit just a brief explanation of the give yourself five program that has been put in place just recently august 15th is when it started I've had some inquiries about it. I wanted to Complain a little bit about it. There has been a show that has been on channel eight regarding this particular give yourself five program And it's helped quite a bit. But first I'd like to talk about the the tragic Accident that happened not long ago last week and the near drownings that drownings that we have had The lake is a beautiful lake and very very alluring at times and it it can be treacherous and And deadly at times What I've done is Has taken the concerns of many citizens that have expressed concern as to what is it that we can do better Or what is it that we can do new to to prevent The the tragic loss of census lives and traumatic near drownings that have occurred also I would also like to extend my deepest sympathies and I know that you would like to extend your deepest sympathies to the family of john uh Dung John duong to the family of john duong who uh, who was whose body was recovered And my deepest sympathy goes to them and I believe yours too To their friends relatives and neighbors are deepest sympathy also It's also important to look back and and see Who was involved in and in these incidents? We have several citizens that were involved some of which were heroes. They actually saved lives Unfortunately, no one could save john But there were a lot of people that were involved in the in the uh, the search and recovery effort And those people merit being mentioned and we express our our heartfelt thanks to everyone who played a role We had the Under chief uh, kirk the police department an excellent job with the with the uh, search and recovery effort Under chief jay lastoski the fire department and the ambulance did a remarkable job out there Under sheriff mike helmke the shiboyden county deputies did a great job in assist in us also under Marcus evans the chief marcus evans the coast guard spent numerous hours out there helping We also had the chief douglas holton from the milwaukee fire department that assisted Sheriff mylon think from fund the lack sheriff's department that assisted We had bob and julie cramer from the great lake search and seizure that assisted We had the salvation army who assisted and provided food and and support The pizza hot also and pigley wiggly from pizza hot ellis clinger and pigley wiggly mike tellier This to me, and I believe uh people have recognized it as being one of the the greatest examples of intergovernmental cooperation and citizen cooperation and and and a very important effort that needed to be undertaken Uh, it's it's strikingly amazing that all these people were able to come together Put a plan in place and move forward and and accomplish what they set out to accomplish and get their job done Just remarkable how they were able to do that In response to this incident and in response to to my assessment that perhaps we have been lacking At the lakefront and perhaps our other Swimming areas. I have put together a water safety initiative that I would like to introduce to to the community and part of that initiative Is in response to as I said, but It's going to involve of five things The first that it will involve is a water safety task force that I will put together Uh, I'm hoping that we can get the certain people to be part of the task force I'm looking at uh the force the mayor chief of police fire chief coast guard chief member of the recreation department an alderman a citizen and then we can do with it We can change more if we need to The coast guard chief marcus evans have been has been a great asset to this community and to to to to the city To charge if we think about what we're going to have a water safety task force What what exactly are they're going to do we're I'm hoping that they can Study and take strong deliberate action towards reducing if not eliminated the census loss of lives and the near drownings Of our citizens and our visitors As quickly as possible. I'm hoping that we can put a water safety program That'll be the other part of it and that program will include at a minimum An appropriate that this appropriate and necessary postings the strategic placement of life rings Emergency call boxes and a collaborative educational component that will involve the city the fire department police department Direct department and other entities that have since I believe called Chief lustusky that they would like to be a part of this this initiative It's going to take a community to address the concerns that we have And I am just delighted that there's a lot of people that want to be a part of this There will be other considerations that we may be made lifeguards One of the the thought that has come up is that lifeguards were eliminated approximately 20 years ago due to budgetary constraints I appeal to you that life has no price. It just doesn't We're looking we would be hopefully looking at designated swimming areas installation of protective railings A possible flag system that like they have in other areas were Depending on what the water is like what the rip currents are like Certain color flags are posted and that alerts the the people at the beach or anywhere else that That's the condition of the lake at the moment And those have been proven to be very instrumental and worthwhile And then I would ask the citizens to Help if you have any ideas as to what we could do better or new To prevent the loss of life or near drownings to please call us talk to your alderman call my office And give us your ideas And then the last thing that these water safety initiative is going to involve is a request from the capital improvements program of 75 to 100 thousand dollars To be uh to be used for the implementation of the water safety program I think that the amount is minimal considering what we have uh in our traditionally have had in our water In our capital improvements program It's very worthwhile money that request will come to you sometime this year I would hope that you would Pass it and assist me in putting together this water safety initiative Next I would like to speak to uh to you about the give yourself five program I have to start off by saying No, we're not having this water give yourself five safety program because the city needs money. Okay. That's not the reason for it I've been told that and people are telling everybody that it's not because the city needs money In fact to enforce our laws We don't need to give yourself five Because the laws are enforced But officer prebi came up with this idea and it's a great idea. It's to give this gives people ample time and notice that The police department is going to be taking our Code our ordinance is pretty serious and people are going to be held accountable if if they're violating the city ordinances So they give yourself five it's a safety program. It's an attempt to reduce accidents at some of the busiest intersections And I I ask you next time you're driving around Well, I shouldn't ask you because all of you would drive 25 in a 25 mile zone, right? But if if you're driving 35 in a 25 mile zone try driving 25 And then ask yourself could I stop if somebody ran in front of me You could because I tried it and it feels incredibly snow But it's incredibly safe also and that's the whole point behind to give yourself five program is to Encourage and and and give an awareness the community about the safety of following law And with that we'll move on the consent agenda president hannah. I arms 10 to 1 to 10 16 Thank you, mr. Mayor I make a motion that all r.o.'s be accepted and placed on file In our all r.c.'s be accepted and adopted second Motion and second under discussion There is none. Please call the roll Decker Motion carries communications and petitions 10 17 through 10 22 to be referred report of officers to 10 23 president hannah Thank you, mr. Mayor I would make a motion that all r.o.'s be accepted and placed on file for 10 23 Yeah, I'm sorry make a motion to file to file I'm sorry that that was the wrong one. It's 10 24 124. Yes my fault. I apologize 10 23 we're holding until 10 39 10 24 we can Thank you. I'd make a motion 10 24 to file correct. I my apologies There's a motion and second to file 10 24 any discussion alderman born Vice president born Thank you ronner The city attorney did a Did an opinion on this This happened happened. This was brought up at the last meeting One of the other persons questioned whether I should be making motions at the law and licensing committee meeting as chairman of that committee and While I don't make it a habit to make motions where I ask my committee members to make motions the occasion Occasionally arises where I do make a motion And the city attorney did a legal opinion on this and according to robert's rules of order if I can Bring to your attention the second last paragraph On the document it says thus a committee chairperson has the right under the council's duty adopted rules of procedure To make motions during meetings of committees which he or she chairs Note that this does not mean that the chair must or should make motions But only that the chair has the right under the rules to make motions as any other as other committee members So I just wanted to Make that clarification and I think the city attorney for doing the opinion Thank you There's no more discussion all in favor say aye Any opposed motion carries 10 25 lies over to september 15 10 26 through 10 30 to be referred Resolutions introduced three 10 31 I will refer back to the salary and grievance grievance committee 10 32 through 10 34 Lies over 10 35 through 10 36 Well, I'm sorry all on board Thank you. Thank you your honor Going back to 10 31 I was wondering and I have no problem with referring that back to salary and grievance I think it's a good idea, but I I'm what I would like to ask Chairman not chairperson monta mayor and her committee Of how we're going to be dealing with merit pay increases for the non reps How they're going to be dealt with especially People at the top of the salary range If as part of this going back to the committee if they could investigate that And give us a report back when this document comes back Sure, we can have we can all of them to my orders made note of that. I'm sure Thank you. Thank you. Okay And 10 34 35 and 36 to be referred Report of committee six by fine 10 37 by finance recommending filing documents submitting a communication From the board of police and fire commissioners requested up to 20 000 dollars for independent council And for proper training and recommending striking the 20 000 dollars request and to approve 590 dollars for pfc training All my gisha Thank you, your honor. I make a motion that the document the report of committee be accepted and adopted Motion and is there a second second under discussion There is none please All in favor say aye Any opposed motion carries 10 38 to be referred report of committees Seven there's notice to rescind vice president boron Thank you, your honor I moved to rescind the 30 day suspension Of alcohol beverage license number 22 28 held by kevin blondie's blue phoenix LLC kevin s nine kevin s nighyce agent and the 30 day consecutive I'm sorry the the 30 day consecutive day suspension of beverage operators license number 61 96 held by kevin s nighyce Which uh were imposed by the council at the july 21st 2008 meeting Is there a second to that motion? Oh, there's a second. Okay motion and under discussion though under discussion your honor I would like to make a motion to hold document 10 23 And that document number 10 39 until the council meeting on Uh, september 2nd. The reason for that is We just received information Tonight on our desks from attorney coutser who represents mr. Nighyce And I think in fairness to attorney coutser and his client That the council be given the two-week period to read over these documents and make a more informed decision on september 2nd What we'll do those act on the motion to rescind right and then we'll that will I ask you to make a motion to hold those Okay, so on the motion to rescind any discussion on that If there isn't please call the roll decker Yes, chef hannah Heidemann kittleson clayunas meyer montemayor renflex ryan suric vander wheel perhassell wangaman boran aye and bowke aye 16 Motion carries council election that of that date has been rescinded all of them born vice president born on 10 39 and 23 Uh, thank you runner on document number 10 23 and 10 39 I make a motion to hold that and tell the september 2nd meeting Motion and second to hold under discussion There is none hole in favor say aye aye any opposed motion carries 1040 by salaries and grievances at the at its meeting of august 7th met and discussed a possible across-the-board increase under the non-represented pay plan For 2008 and makes no recommendation as to the across-the-board increase under the non-rep pay plan Alvin montemayor Thank you your honor. I move to accept and file the report of committee Motion and second to accept and and adopt the report of committees. Thank you under discussion There is none. Please call Please call the roll Yes, chef hannah Heidemann kittleson aye clayunas aye meyer aye montemayor aye renflex aye ryan aye suric aye vander wheel aye perhassell montemayor aye vorin aye bow thank you and decker 16 Motion carries The part of committees 8 1041 by finance Recommendant authorizing the appropriate city officials to execute the tenant lease agreement for the second floor of the building at 807 center avenue Alvin Gisha Thank you your honor. I make a motion that the report of committee be accepted and adopted And the resolution we put and the resolution pardon me be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion Vice president borne Thank you your honor. I was wondering if I could get a clarification from attorney mclean. I noticed This document here is for lease of the second floor And there was another document that came through today that's being referred. I believe the finance Where we want to do a lease for the first floor of that building What is that space on the first floor going to be used for if we agree to if we can get a lease for it? Uh Thank you your honor It's my understanding part of the first floor would be leased for the tourism division of planning The department of revenue is moving out. I believe at the end of september from The uh, the west side of the first floor and that space would be available So that'll make better visibility then for the tour Be first floor better access at better access and visibility and uh I think paulette could could use the space up there too. So Very good. Uh, so we had a uh Hannah Hi Heidemann Hi Hiddleston Hi Cleanness Hi Meyer Hi Montemayor Hi Ringflesh Hi Ryan Hi Sir Hi Vanderheel Hi Rahassel Hi Longamin Hi Lauren Hi Bob Hi Decker Yep And Geisha Hi Sixteen eyes Motion carries Ordinances introduced 10 1042 and 1043 lies over 1044 to be referred Matters laid over 11 959 resolution number 850809 by Alderman Geisha Clayunas Born Baut and Montemayor Authorizing a transfer of appropriations in the 2008 budget Established revenue and appropriations for renovation of the existing boat ramps Donations for dive team supplies Appropriations for sick leave and vacation severance Alderman Geisha Thank you Your Honor I move that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion in second Under discussion There is none please call the roll Heidemann Hi Kiddleston Hi Cleanness Hi Meyer Hi Montemayor Hi Ringflesh Hi Ryan Hi Sir Hi Baneruil Hi Berhasel Hi Longman Hi Warren Hi Fowle Hi Decker Hi Geisha Hi and Hannah Hi 69 Motion carries 969 RC number 190809 by salaries and grievances recommended changing the job description and the minimum job qualifications for all newly hired mechanics Alderman Montemayor Thank you Your Honor I move to accept and adopt the RC and the resolution be put upon its passage Motion in Second Second Under discussion There is none please call the roll Kiddleston No Cleanness Yes Hi Meyer Hi Montemayor Hi Ringflesh Hi Ryan No Sir Hi Baneruil Hi Berhasel Hi Longman No Warren Hi Fowle Hi Decker No Geisha Hi Hannah Hi and Hyderabad Hi 12 ayes 4 no Motion carries 971 RC number 190809 by salary and grievances recommended amending the municipal code relating to residency so as to provide for a one-time 90 day extension Alderman Montemayor Thank you Your Honor I move to accept and file the RC and the ordinance be put upon its passage Motion to accept and adopt and put the ordinance on its passage under is there a second Second under discussion Thank you Your Honor We certainly should accept and file the RC But I personally voted no on the ordinance And I would hope many alderman would join me in voting no on the ordinance Thank you and actually have Alderman Longman Thank you Mr. Mayor It's my opinion this entire thing is a mood question Because if you read the municipal code The municipal code and I'll read it for you All appointed department heads and members of boards or commissions Shall be residents of the city and maintain residency in the city While under the employment or service of the city Appointed department heads shall be residents of the city Within six months of the date of their hiring for the purpose of this section The term appointed head shall be defined To mean those department heads appointed by the mayor with approval of the common council As well as the police chief and the fire chief Appointed by the police and fire commission in the event that any such department head and member Of a board or commission does not meet the foregoing Requirements his office or position shall be automatically vacated Fourth with vacated and such vacancy shall be filled in the manner prescribed by law If you look at the word automatic in the dictionary It says it's a function that takes place without any human input The word automatically is the key word in my opinion And if you take this ordinance verbatim Mr. Lee's employment with this city was terminated on June 21st And he was not then an employee and has not been an employee since that period of time This is the ordinance that for some reason has been shoved aside Ignored If we go to the wisconsin league of municipalities manual that are handed to each one of us on page 44 about halfway down the page Under statutory officers The office of the mayor they're speaking of here as chief executive of the city The mayor has a statutory duty and I underline statutory duty because this is not an option a statutory duty is something that you must do He has a statutory duty to take care of that city ordinances and state laws are observed and enforced And that all city officers and employees discharge their duties And this is reference state statute 62.09 subsection 8 subsection a of the statutes of the state of wisconsin So your duty in this matter is quite clear And why mr. Lee has been in our employment since that time. I have no idea There is absolutely nothing in this old ordinance that gives the city of Sheboygan any right to grant stays or extensions And I'll repeat that again His officer position shall be automatically fourth with dedicated And it is my contention that mr. Lee is not an employee of the city. And so this entire process is moved Next we have on the third Thank you. I actually uh, I might have to wait. I want to add some language to the document But I think one amount of mayor has a motion The reporter committees are not to be amended if you'd like you can send it back We can send it back That's under rules the part of committees are not amended from the council of our I'm sorry what And they hold you're looking to amend the the ordinance Okay Please proceed I want to add a motion to add the following language after the word hardship And they would so read after after the word hardship that it would be further That will be further be the common council's discretion After the extension to determine full compliance for the residency requirement Including family members living in the city of Sheboygan And make a final determination of the employment status of department head or a member of board or commission There's an um, you made a motion to amend it according on discussion on the amendment only I had two more Lights to those lights want to talk about the amendment. No Okay, I'm going to shut them off Not the amendment. Okay. Okay. We've got almond wagamon on the amendment. No, okay Okay, hold on. Hold on. I'm going to turn everything off Let's start over again Okay, who wants to go first Omegisha thank you your honor just to uh I may be a question for the city attorney I didn't think we could legislate Family members like spouses and things like that to say they have to live as well You know a person could be separated the wife could be living in Toledo Yet the other the husband here or vice versa could be living in Sheboygan I think that language offered something having to do with family being here. I'm not so sure we can regulate that You know if if if my son lives in new jersey and my out of compliance Can you clarify that for us so we don't maybe dip into something that statutorily we can't Um, sure. I do think that Location of spouses and other family members is relevant to the issue of whether someone is a resident of the community But I'd be concerned also that Our residency requirement would be then Stretched out to include required that Certain family members have to reside in the city in order for that employee to be considered a resident I certainly as I indicated Location of Family members is one of the factors that you consider in residency, but I wouldn't make that a Determining criteria as to whether or not a particular department head is a city resident or not Okay on the amendment only all I'm looking my way Thank you your honor. I wanted to be sure I have the amendment straight Further the common council Can decide On on on if there's any more extenuating circumstances after This ordinance goes into effect Is that what alderman sirk was saying? I believe that's what he said And here again, we have a situation where it should be the salary and grievances committee Instead of being instead of circumventing the salary and grievance committee Alderman Alderman geyser are you done talking? Okay Alderman wagerman your lights blinking next That was not on the amendment sir, okay And we have alderman sark on the amendment thank you mayor if that becomes an issue. I would I made In any motion that would instead of saying the words family members family or dependents If that would suffice legally I would still have the same concern alderman sirk You know certainly the council can adopt anything you Feel is appropriate, but tying An employee's residence to Family members or dependents Or any other particular criteria that they have to have you know a Driver's license showing their address in shabuigan say for instance I would have concerns with that as to the enforceability of provisions that relate to extraneous things Again, I think that may relate to whether or not the department head Is a resident or not, but I don't believe it's in the best interest of the city that you Make that part of the residency requirement that Dependents reside in the city Moving along then to alderman borne Thank you This is on this is on the motion by the way. I attended We need we need to talk on the amendment though because otherwise, okay, okay This amendment this language Was voted on at the salary and grievance committee that I attended That dealt with this issue and mysteriously it did not show up in the committee minutes So maybe alderman monta mayer and this was this was voted up This was voted to be passed by alderman sirk alderman Verhaselt and alderman decker decker almost the identical language. It was passed in salary grievance But for some reason it didn't show up in the minutes of the committee So I would like the chairman or the vice chairman of salary agreements to explain if you voted on it and you passed it Why wasn't it in the minutes? Thank you your honor We did vote on it. It was voted on and it was three to two me voting against it And it didn't make it to this To the agenda tonight and that I don't know why because yes, that is what we voted on at salary and grievance Exactly what alderman sirk said that it had to do with the family living in shabuagan also That was voted on in salary and grievance. It passed three to two me voting against it, of course But it did not show up when we got our agenda on friday alderman ring flesh On the amendment Thank you That previous conversation confuses the issue a little bit more So a few questions then regarding that if that was the vote Including that language I guess attorney would that not actually be what should be in front of us and if it's not in front of us Can we actually act on this resolution that's written? I guess it would be my opinion that you have the document in front of you. That's what's on the agenda if there was some procedural problem with This document not reflecting the minutes. I think the appropriate thing to do is what was done a motion to amend The proposed ordinance to reflect the language that didn't get in As a result of I guess I would ask the council then Well, it was a close vote three to two in that committee to Perhaps approve the language as amended This time around then we can vote on the entire general ordinance After has been amended. I do have some concerns about the the the language too. I think If the intent is To stop being it automatic because the language here is the same language that alderman longwood had used That's automatically forthwith vacated unless A council authorizes a one-time 90 day extension of said requirement for individual upon showing of hardship It seems to me that the language that we're looking at adding is simply saying then Okay, if the person come back and says I'm now residents There needs to be some sort of proof and some somebody that looks at proof and says yes You are resident or no, you're not a resident at that point in time. If that's the intent of the language I would fully support that If the intent is simply to decide which family members must live here to establish residency I think that's a slippery slope. I wouldn't want to go down that way So I guess I would ask for those three that voted for it. What was their intent? In voting for that language So for the clarify for the rest of the body what we're looking at Next we have all the vice president board Thank you, ronner When earlier this and this is on the motion earlier this year when chief listosky asked me to work on a residency requirement for the newly hired paramedics. I worked with With chief listosky and attorney mclean The residency policy that was passed by the council a few weeks ago or a month ago whenever it was One of the bullet points in there was that One of the tests for residency was that the spouse had to live in the city And it's my understanding attorney mclean from our discussions back then that you model this after the residency requirement in the city of Milwaukee And it was my understanding understanding that if this didn't meet supreme court Challenges at least appellate courts and that's why you put in the guidelines that you did in our residency requirement Which included the spouse Living in the city of shabuagan the spouse of the city employee now You know we can play games with this all we want to but If if a department head is married The spouse According to the Milwaukee city residency rule and apparently has passed court tests If they're married their spouse has to live in the city of shabuagan. It's that simple. It's not complicated In my opinion. It's not complicated if they're married Their spouse has to live in the city of shabuagan for them to be considered a resident of shabuagan The trick that was pulled in mohawkie all the time for example With for example with police officers or firefighters They would rent a flop house apartment in the city of mohawkie Move in some bare minimum furniture And we're living there a couple days a week But the majority of the time was spent out in the suburbs with their family And that is nothing more and as far as i'm concerned a city department head having an apartment Without their spouse if they're married living in the city is nothing more than a facade to get around the residency requirement. Thank you On the bulk Thank you, mr. Mayor We talked about this issue. I think at the The may uh come into the whole meeting we had a very good discussion very informative discussion as I recall We talked about how there were seven or 11 tests Attorney mclean you recall there were a set of 13 tests And so given that those tests have been defended in courts and are widely recognized throughout the state of wisconsin I think this is all kind of moot because given those 13 tests salary and grievance already has everything they need They don't need further wording. So just on the amendment itself and I support what alderman Warren is trying to accomplish here I just don't think this wording Does us any good or or harm because it's already established there are these 13 tests and the salary and grievance Committee has the authority to look at those 13 and vote and decide Either in compliance or out of compliance. Is that do I misunderstand that attorney mclean? Well, I think the the distinction here is a mandate that that Is a condition of residency that your spouse has to Live here to be for the employee to be considered a resident versus guidelines the the courts have Have consistently looked at the various factors those 11 or 13 or seven different factors as criteria to Not any one of which is necessarily determinative But are all looked at collectively to determine whether or not an individual is a resident A big factor is where does the spouse reside where do the children reside? Where do they go to school? What's their driver's license say? Where do they vote? Where's their income tax file, you know, there's a whole number of criteria, but none of which Is in and of itself per se residency So a follow-up mr. Mayor, thank you So is it reasonable to say that if there were someone a future name department head that we're trying to skirt the rules Wouldn't it be within the judgment of those five members of the salary and grievance to weigh those 13 guidelines and say We're all going to stand up and be counted and we're either in or we're out Yeah, yeah, or nay They are in compliance or not and then that goes before this body of 16 people who will vote to either support or not Support that so again all that language is is moot because the 13 guidelines are there and five Sober older persons can debate that issue and then bring it to 16 older persons so we can vote on it, right? So we don't need any of this Is that fair? Well, that's my opinion. Yes And even those 13 Guidelines are just that it they're they're not exclusive You can come up with other things But you look at the totality of the circumstances to make a determination You don't look at one factor and say you either are or not a resident because You know your your daughter lives in the city with you or doesn't right? So one more comment, mr. Mayor So I guess I would vote not to approve this amendment because I don't think that it's necessary given that five Five of our peers are going to tackle this issue and it would be kind of hard to hoodwink Five people I think it would be kind of hard to pull shenanigans about where you're going to live and where your kids Are going to go to school just to skirt a few thousand dollars in taxes When five of us can see through that and then vote appropriately So I will I will not vote to support this not because I don't support what Alderman born and the rest are trying to accomplish I just don't think it's necessary. Thank you your honor. Thank you Okay, two times per issue I won't let this one go by but it's a fourth time while I'm on the chart Thank you, mayor I think the intent of the original question What was the intent of souring greens when we talked about this and voted on it and it was was basically in this Kind of rhetoric but basically that that the department had particularly Brings their family to the city of Chicago and that they don't they're not money through friday residents and go home and their children attend school in some other city or township and The intent that time was that the person because they're the department had reside in the city pay taxes in the city and are Basically considered should we're going to be their home? That's what I'll have to say I'll let them out one more time, too Thank you your honor Thank you attorney mclean. I just want to say again what you said That criteria was something that may be considered. That's what the criteria was not an absolute These are the things that may be considered to determine residency All in addition Thank you your honor Just a point that I found it kind of curious that the same rules were applying here on residency doesn't apply to any of us in this room My spouse doesn't have to live in the city of shabuagan My kids don't have to go to school in the city of shabuagan My dog doesn't have to go down to the lakefront on a leash in the city of shabuagan All it says is i've got to live in the city of shabuagan now My wife does happen to live in the city of shabuagan, but we have open enrollment in the schools They could go to school in shabuagan falls Um, so it's it's an interesting and this is one of the issues with residency This is why it's a problem Because these rules are weird and I just don't like applying rules to somebody else that I don't have to follow myself So if we're all going to sit here in this room and talk about you've got to do this and got to do this It's not the same rules we live by and we're elected officials in the city of shabuagan. I just think it's unfair Home of our hassle. Thank you your honor. It's a question for a city attorney McLean Just as a member of salary ingredients. I'm curious. What is the magic number? And I'm just I know I realize it's just your opinion But when you say one of those 13 factors cannot be a single determinant We're talking like three four five six of them before the committee could take action in the future again Just looking for some direction going forward The uh the cases Say you look at each case on a case by case Scenario you can't say that they're you know if you meet these criteria you're a resident If you meet these criteria, you're not a resident So you've got to look at the totality to totality of the circumstances in each case and look at the various factors that Go into being a resident and weigh The the balance is this person a resident of the city that and so I can't give you A specific number because there really isn't one Vice president borne one more time. Thank you your honor Uh Can I try to make a further amendment to the amendment or do we have to vote on the original amendment first? We need to vote on this one. We have to vote on that. Okay, then I would like to make a further amendment after that One amendment only as read which please read it Sure The amendment says it will further be at the comment council's discretion after the extension to determine full compliance of the residency requirement Including family members living in the city of shabuigan and make a final Determination of the employment status of a department head or a member of a board or commission Please call roll Uh claimants no Meijer, no Montemay or no rin flash. Hi Ryan Excuse me. No Surrey. Hi Bander wheel For hassle hi wangeman no boran hi bauk no decker hi yesha no hannah no itemant hi kittleson no six size 10 bills Motion fails on the amendment. Vice president borne you said Thank you your honor, uh I'm gonna make I'm gonna make a motion and the motion is going to read as follows It will be the common council's discretion after the extension To make a final determination of the employment status of the department head or member of a board or commission Is there a second to that a motion? second Any discussion Vice president borne. Thank you, your honor Under discussion your honor, uh, it's obvious what I did here is I took out all of the controversial Language as far as determining the the council determining The full compliance of the residency requirement, but I feel it's important to have the council Because this is an ordinance change to have the council have the discretion After the extension to make the final determination of the employment status All in all, thank you, your honor. So just a question to understand the process If that language weren't inserted and again this happened And I as a particular alderman felt strongly that someone were Playing shenanigans with the rules and I wanted that person to be held accountable Couldn't I as an individual alderman draft a document that would say the salary and grievances Committee shall take a look at this and shall vote on it and then they would have to examine it And then it would come back to us. So don't we de facto already have that power? That's a question. I guess for the city attorney, sir Um, the same result could be arrived at but this would provide for it by ordinance so that it would happen automatically so that You know At the end of the 90 day period somebody A committee is looking at it and making a determination so that you don't go another Three months of examining it and nobody takes a look at it and then all of a sudden somebody says, you know Are they in or out? And I still think that Here we go again. You need to let the committees do their work You need to let the committees do their work Some may not Like the composition of the present salary and grievance committee. That's not the composition that will be their next year probably or the following year This one It's pretty serious stuff You need to let the committee we have five standing committees each one Is comprised of five capable talented dedicated committed people That the citizens are shamboy and elected and they expect us they expect me to trust their judgment like they trusted theirs And if we don't let committees do their job Eliminate them and then you can sit here and deal with all those issues yourself because I get the feeling the council Now wants to deal with every single issue and we hash it over and over Let the committees do their job. That's why the committees have been formed That's why we have five different standing committees. It takes a lot of the burden off of the ones that are on that committee Please vote this down All in red flesh Thank you, mr. Mayor I think actually Respectively disagree with your lecture to us. I think that the point of the language is to allow the committees to do their work The example being if after six months The committee says it's not the person is not in compliance with the residency requirement based on The full value of looking at all the the items that they can look at um And then if if the list ordinance is actually passed and we do allow a 90 day extension of the requirements If there's no change in the actual status of those 13 things that we can look at There's no choice but then to pull That that position away from the person that's in that position whereas if we can Actually allow the committee to come back and look at the extension hardship What if the house is being sold but closes two days after the 90 day extension? What if the moving van got delayed, you know, these sound like silly items But if we're strictly relying on the automatic and then if we do have voted one day extension We're not giving that committee the opportunity to make better judgments to say, okay Well, technically none of those things have changed. They're all in the process of being changed And therefore we'll allow this person to declare residency because It's being changed And I think that does grant the committee Because while the language does come in council, obviously that that work would have to be done in that salary increases committee full recommendation to the council so I understand Your honor we're coming from in terms of allowing the committee to do its work But I think this actually makes that committee even stronger and uses Allows them to use their better judgment instead of being something. It's automatic Saying nope 90 days is done. You are no longer an employee here if Due diligence is being worked on if everything is just about to be completed to be a resident here Things ridiculous to not allow them to have that opportunity I'll move our hassle Thank you your honor I just wanted to clarify I guess I would have assumed by the language I was read that this would go through the normal procedures and so this would be in collaboration with salary ingredients Review, but the ultimate decision would be made by the council. Is that correct? Okay, all right So the committee is still involved just as they normally would be so we're not in fact pushing the committee out Which is a sensitive area for me as well. I think things need to work their way through committee for that finer detail discussion But you know, I guess the thing to remember here too is that there's all sort of all sorts of options available to this individual Or any individual put into this situation of options that are available From these 16 people who I think are pretty level headed people. So we're not closing the door on any one issue This can be revisited next month as Alderman bulky alluded to any six Excuse me any 16 of us can come in at any meeting with a document Sending us in one way one direction or another. So we're not tied to any specific I guess decision tonight. Thank you much present born Thank you your honor With all due respect your honor your comment about making telling us how to vote on this is out of order You can you had you're on a very slippery slippery slope up there when you're making comments On an on an issue and I think you're out of order when you tell this council how to vote and number two This was voted on As I said before was voted on and was passed by the salary and grievance committee two weeks ago Regardless if the vote is close or not Whatever is reported out of that committee should be in the minutes and it was not in the minutes Or we wouldn't even have to go there. It would have been on the document tonight So whether it's close or not or whether the chairman Doesn't like the outcome. It's still got to be in the minutes And we have Alderman Meyer Thank you, your honor. Um, I would just like to address the missing Minutes at our last salary and grievance committee meeting When we approved the minutes, which did state that alderman suric had indeed made That amendment of residency Alderman suric claimed he did not make that amendment And what happened from that salary and grievance committee to this document coming here I don't know but we had this discussion at our last meeting And we all felt that it was in the minutes and Alderman suric said he'd never made that amendment. So That's what happened Almost sir Well, to respect to alderman Meyer. I did not say that I did make the amendment And it was voted on and should have been placed in the minutes and it wasn't and I brought it up At the following meeting saying that the minutes were in were not correct And I wanted an amendment to the minute to reflect the vote and decision the amendment that I had made Only amendment, please read the amendment again Thank you The motion is it will be It will further be the common counsel's discretion after the extension To make a final determination of the employment status of a department head or a member of a board or commission Please call the roll Montes may or no Ryan sir Or hassle Boren Decker Yesha Hannah Heidemann kittleson I And playing this 13 ayes three no's Motion carries Woman born would you like to make the motion now? You're going to make the motion Hold on to my oh I was asking all alman born if he wants to make the motion to pass put the To accept the dot report the ordinance is amended Is there second second okay now under discussion only motion is amended to change the ordinance Alderman, who's who's up first? Alderman wagman Well, mr. Mayor, we're still back at point one I still haven't gotten an answer is mr. Lee a employee of the city or is he not I would call upon the city attorney to clarify that for us possibly not at this meeting I'd like to give him time to consider this and I'd like a written opinion on it and until such time I would like all documents that pertain to this subject to be held because what we have here is a blatant violation of city ordinance It's very discussion isn't down Mr. Lee the discussion is on the On the resolution before us That does not mention mr. Lee or any individual whatsoever The point of order is uh noted and I concur. That's not part of the discussion. Alderman wagman. Thank you On the motion to put the resolution to change the resolution as amended now. We have all in with the mayor Thank you your honor so now this Ordinance this general ordinance having to do with residency Means the common council may authorize a one time 90 day extension Plus the amendment Now the next document which we're not talking about certainly doesn't match That general ordinance we're putting in tonight Comments on that attorney McLean I don't know. We're just discussing the ordinance at this point. I guess the resolution is next on the agenda me I don't know What's going to happen with that? Well the ordinance is the one that's been amended just for the clarification next we have Alderman Ryan Thank you, mr. Mayor. I've been sitting quietly during this whole discussion tonight trying to form an opinion on it You know, I believe that this ordinance with the amendment gives the council the flexibility to do the right thing if we need to Um, we can't we cannot be locked into a situation I mean there are extenuating circumstances out there in certain individual situations in lives That may cause them to go over a six month residency requirement or a nine month residency requirement This gives us the flexibility to make that decision on a case by case basis as the salary grievances committee And as the council so i'm going to support this. Thank you Why is president borne nothing further on that your honor. I'm sorry. Thank you. I'll let them out one more time Thank you your honor. I simply wanted to agree with alderman ryan I think in order to get to the next resolution. We have to pass this one Any more discussion? They're being on please call roll Come on to me or ryan ryan sir Bander wheel for hassled wangaman boran bow Decker Gisha Hannah vitamin Kindle sin Plainness and mire 15 eyes one note Motion carries Now we We're back to the rc correct 191 I'm sorry 71 We just did this ordinance so now we're doing this one this one here. Yep 970 okay RC number 191 0809 by salaries and grievances recommend and grant in a 90-day extension of residency requirement Alderman onto mayor Thank you your honor I move to accept and file the rc and the resolution be put upon its passage Motion is there a second Second under discussion Thank you your honor the resolution grants a 90-day extension extension and has the whereas Mr. Lee has made a satisfactory showing of hardship and it is in the city's interest to grant an extension Of the six month requirement to establish residency um So I think that gives us the right to extend The residency to give an extension and that I think is the purpose. I think that's what we want We want to give an extension. Thank you Next we have Alderman sir Yeah, I would original document I like to uh Motion to add after the word hardship That it we further be at the common counsel's discretion After the extension to make a final determination of the employment status of the department head Your motion has been amended accordingly under discussion on the amendment only Alderman vice president borne on the amendment I'll wait your honor Okay, all right. Thank you your honor. I think that the amendment actually would Be moved to this point in time since the resolution In front of us is being brought to us by the ordinance We just passed which does grant 90-day extension and does grant the amendment that we put in there That the review final review will be done by the common counsel So I don't think it's necessary to add it to this one specifically dealing with too early Thank you. Yeah, I have to agree that we've already passed the ordinance just previously So it's in place. So this would be redundant Mr. President board Thank you, your honor Thank you for that comment alderman hannah, but I would like to have an opinion On from the city attorney as whether this language should also be In the resolution for this specific individual or any other individual in the future that That the common counsel is going to make the final decision on this Turn him clean. Thank you, your honor Hold on borne. I think it could but then if it's not in there, it's not going to make any difference in my opinion The ordinance will be in place. That's the criteria that you will look at at the end of the 90-day extension Whether it's in Mr. Lee's specific resolution granting the extension or not If I could just follow up your honor Uh I'm going to support I'm going to support the 90-day extension But when it when it says in here that mr. Lee has satisfactorily showed hardship Uh, who's he showed it to he wasn't at the salary and grievance committee two weeks ago and alderman alderman Surik and alderman verhasel asked where he was to in his defense of why he hasn't Why he's not a resident You know, we're we're assuming when we pass this and I said I'm going to support it But he has not shown hardship to either the salary and grievance committee He could have done it He could have done it two weeks ago when he did his dog and pony show up here He could have he could have spent some time addressing the council On expressing his hardship for why he's not living in the city I'm going to go along with it But in my mind the hardship has not been demonstrated because he has not been heard at the committee level Or he has not been heard by this council Hello alderman alderman barn You're out of order now that dog and pony show is incredibly inappropriate and unprofessional sir The presentation was done in a very professional manner It was done for the benefit of the council the common council and the community and to refer to it in such derogatory terms It's i'm surprised by you You're out of order Alderman gisha Now i'm afraid Thank you your honor Some information was passed Uh to that salary and grievance committee. I was in attendance I believe one home has sold in the entire city of wakashan the first four months Of 2008 I mean there are some I don't want to get into the nitpicking of an individual because I don't think that's appropriate for this body To to do that but to not recognize the economic issues of selling a home these days is Is remarkable you have to recognize the reality What says on on paper is one thing but reality is something else and one home being sold in four months in the city of wakasha Where that's where that home was listed if that isn't a hardship I don't I don't really know what it is. There was another a lot of other items mentioned Although mr. Lee was not in attendance data was presented on his behalf Next we have oh, i'm sorry alderman longman Thank you, mr. Mayor The real estate market to my knowledge hasn't changed in the last seven or eight months or maybe a year I think mr. Lee knew when he got hired how difficult this was going to be and we've had other city Department heads who've come to the city Who've made great effort to move here in fact several of them ended up making two house payments But they moved here. They complied So how can we grant him an extension when these people went to no end to comply? How can we tell any of our employees that they must abide by the ordinances if we can make ordinances to Benefit just one person the real estate market hasn't changed. It's been difficult. I appreciate that But he should have known that you should have planned be in place He can come to shabuaga in a rented apartment rent his house out. There's a million things he could do But this market hasn't changed for many many many months And i'm and i'm sure he very well knew this when he took the job Thank you Respectfully the real estate market has changed dramatically Anybody who doesn't think the real estate market hasn't changed? I think maybe there's some other data that they can receive The anybody trying to sell a home Is having difficulty which is hardship by definition I think for a lot of families and I think a lot of families are having a hard time with that in our community And in other communities and as far as changing ordinances we change ordinances all the time Uh fences being removed pools setbacks sidewalks Corner lots we change ordinances all the time and go to various committees and have ordinance changes all the time It is not a and waivers given it's not a spectacular event. I wish we did it less, but we don't it's not an unusual situation and frankly if I was a department head Coming to any city given a six month Trial period because that's how department heads come in they come in with a six month We're going to check you out and if you pass the test after six months You're hired permanently and offered a five-year contract I wouldn't sell my house in the first six months What if after six months the city of shibuya and this group says hey I don't I don't want you and I've already moved my whole family and and the neighbors and everybody As the ordinance say it's on through So I've already moved everything here and after six months the the council or a committee decides they don't want me So I think perhaps the six month rule at some point might need to be looked at because it's a little bit Well, it's a scary deal to roll those dice on the six month trial period Thank you. I would ask the gallery to please refrain from unnecessary comments and releases This is a A good discussion people have strong feelings about the issue Um I'm not spared. I have strong feelings about that quite frankly. I agree with all of Magesha's analysis that I don't think I would want to try to sell my house in the first six months if I'm on probation Uh, it makes sense that the six month clock start ticking after your Prove for a permanent uh secured employment It's a good hearty discussion People have strong feelings. Let's just maintain our composure and respect for each other. Next we have Rindflash omen Rindflash Thank you, mr. Mayor. I agree. It is definitely a hot button issue and I think We're we're for the most part keeping our composure here and I grant people the uh, you know, thanks for for everybody that You know, we keep it to the facts and keep it to the information at hand Um, this is exactly why I felt it was important that we pass the um previous Um A general ordinance with the uh amendment to it is that it does give this body And the committee is time to look at each individual situation Instead of automatically acting on this one. Uh, but also again, I think we're really focusing on one particular issue In resolution number 810809 regarding to early and that would be the sale of his house The sale of property or the house, uh, he lives and would be made perhaps one of the many issues we can look at um and um If the house isn't necessarily sold there are still options that that people have for um Residency, uh, what does the driver's license say? Where do they live? Are they renting down to the kids going school in the area here? These are other things that we can also look at not just sale of the property It seems to me that if if mr. Lease is commuting and spending a fortune fuel costs because fuel has also gone up substantially Well, the real st. Mark has cooled off That there may be other options with living within the city For that person, uh, and I would like to have that opportunity for him to Look at some other options if the house is selling and if he's still within his six months Trial periods per se. I think there are other ways we this this council can look at so we definitely in favor of granting the extension past the 90 days So we can reach some kind of agreement so that we can keep him and the product that the work that he's doing And the products that are moving forward, uh, but also meet with the guidelines of residency Which of the other? Guidelines can we look at besides just simply the sale of his house and the purchase of a house here? Can we use? so I think Continue the conversation continue discussions within this council, but uh, ultimately let's grant Uh, this this resolution's grant the extension And work with Tugor Lee to find out how we can have him become a resident here. Thank you Next we have almond milk. Thank you, honor um I think that of all of us there's one person that's been consistently right on this issue And that's all the person gisha who has said time and time again Every time we get into this it just gets deeper and deeper and murkier and murkier. So with that, uh, your honor, I'd call the question Is there a second to that? Motion and second to call the question all in favor say aye. Aye any opposed motion carries. Please call the roll Yes The uh, the motion is to add after, uh September 19 2008 that it will be further be at the common council's discretion After the extension to make a final determination of the employment status of your department head period On the amendment rithwesh Excuse me. No, no Ryan no Surrey. All right. Vander wheel. No. Rehassle. All right. Wongamon. No Warren. All right Oh Decker Excuse me. All right Gisha. No Hanna. No Heidemann. All right Kittleson. No Tionis. No Meyer. No. Montemay or no High highs 11 no Motion fails Please call the roll and uh, accepting and adopting 191-809 The first motion was done by Montemay or Gisha. Does that still stand? Is that all right? Oh, excuse me. All moment of my life. Thank you your honor This particular resolution was was was created by boron heidemann, surrey and rehassle So I don't want to make that motion Because I No, no, not me. No, motion has already been made. So oh you were drawing your motion. Okay Yours is on the first Now we just need someone to make a final motion if you don't want to No So she's we're drawing her motion. Okay vice president Okay, hold on. We have no motion. Is there anybody who's going to make a motion? Move and second. Okay motion is second under discussion Now we have vice president morris Oh, I wanted I want not a not on the motion I I if I could I would like to apologize to you mayor and the common council and the citizens for my previous comment Thank you elvin borne Any other comments? Okay, please call the roll Everybody clear what we're voting on? I didn't think so I have all these looks we're voting on the rc 191 with the attached res 81 Granting a 90-day extension of residency requirement with no amendments Accept an adopt and pass the resolution Okay Okay, ryan. Hi sir. Hi randor wheel. Hi for hassle. Hi wangaman No Horan. Hi bow. Hi decker. Hi isha. Hi hanna. Hi deman. Hi hitleson. Hi planus. Hi Mayer Montemay or no and rin flash 13 eyes three notes motion carries 964 general orders number 40809 by elvin borne wagerman heidemann suric and van der wheel Repealing and recreating certain provisions of the municipal code so as to expand and clarify the definition of a nuisance Expand the scope of the ordinance provide procedures for abatement Deal with chronic nuisances and update the nuisance noise ordinance dealing with radios and phonographs Mr. President borne Thank you ronner. I move that the general ordinance be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion under discussion ronner the law and licensing committee at the request of officer Todd preby of the shabuagan police department and with the help of deputy city attorney Charles adams Created this new ordinance that will make it easier for the police department Our new coden forcer and the billing inspection department to enforce violations And help with our clean city initiative Thank you ronner In my 15 months on the council i've been working consistently with officer preby on things just like that are covered in here and i can't thank Law and licensing and the chairman and officer preby and attorney adams Enough for finally getting Something in black and white that will help us hold Absent landlords and landlords who tolerate just abominable behavior repeated abominable behavior from their tenants and it's brought to their attention They do nothing I get phone calls constituents in tears who fear for their safety at night drunkards next door Violence next door. So, thank you Chairman borne for getting this done and I look forward to voting yes on this document Thank you, mr. Mayor. I concur with alderman about opinion. This is a long overdue Real glad that officer preby's involved and and helping us Make a priority about some of these issues. So, thank you Thank you And Alderman in place Thank you, mr. Mayor Just a point of clarification under section 66 dash 107 enforcement For the purposes of this chapter officer shall mean any peace officer including a police officer fire inspector building inspector or housing inspector The assumption being that the code enforcer is under the building inspector Or do we need to add that person specifically as enforcement under the The section code enforcers already under that building inspection is under building inspection. That's right. That's the clarification. Thank you Okay, police call the rule I'm per hassle. I'm long of it. Hi Foran. Hi bow. Hi. Decker. Hi. Yes, sir. Hi. Hannah Hi to me. Hi, kittleson. I'm plainness. Hi. Meyer. I want to be or I rinse my Ryan And sir Motion carries 965 general ordinance number 4108 on 9 Alderman hannah ren flash ryan hyman and kittleson Relating to the direction of traffic so as to add a no left turn zone for southbound traffic on sth 42 Kilometre drive and burdens avenue President hannah Thank you, mr. Mayor. I move that the ordinance be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion There is none. Please call the roll for hassle Wongamon boron bauk Decker Gisha Hannah Heidemann Kittleson Cleanness Meyer Montemayor Rindflash Ryan Siruk And vander wheel 16 eyes motion carries 967 general ordinance number 430809 by Alderman hannah rinse wise ryan hyderman and kittleson Relating to new park no parking zones so as to add a 15 minute parking zone along the north Zone of niagara avenue from 40 feet to 85 feet west of the west curb line of north 7th street president hannah Thank you, mr. Mayor. I move that the general ordinance be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion There is none. Please call the roll wangamon boron bauk Decker Gisha Hannah Heidemann Kittleson Cleanness Meyer Montemayor Rindflash Ryan Siruk Vander wheel And for hassled 16 eyes motion carries other matters attorney mclean 1045 with communication from joanne cross stating her concerns regarding the drop-off procedure at south high school in many south's southside commuters as it is chaos at the intersection of south 12th street and washington avenue before and after school That will be referred to public protection and safety 1046 is a communication from jerry driscoll requesting that cheboygan rethink the speed limits on main roads through town Stating that 30 35 is not too fast on some of the roads But 25 miles per hour from the north to the south end is not a reasonable speed And also stating that there should be some yield or stop signs where broton drive ends at a five-way intersection That will go to public protection and safety also 1047 is a communication from asher heimerman requesting that the 2009 traffic routes and restrictions be reviewed and improved During the july 4th events and we'll go to public protection safety 1048 is communication from tuger lead director of it Requesting authorization to release an rfp for the purpose of soliciting bids for a time and attendance system that will go to finance 1049 is a resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials to execute the consulting agreement between umana ink and the city of cheboygan That lies over 1050 is a resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials to execute the access agreement virgin health miles program Between umana insurance company in the city of cheboygan that lies over 1051 is an ordinance creating section 118-10 of the cheboygan municipal code So as to permit and regulate neighborhood electric vehicles in the city of cheboygan That will go to public protection and safety 1052 is an aro by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending june 30 2008 june 30 2009 and june 30 2010 That will be referred to law and licensing 1053 is an aro by the city clerk submitting a petition for the vacation of a portion of north 21st street Located in cheboygan lying between north avenue and calumet drive There are signed by the owners of all the lots and lands of budding that portion sought to be vacated And the owners of more than one third of that portion of the remainder thereof lying within 2650 feet of the ends of the portion sought to be discontinued That will be going to city plan commission 1054 is a resolution ordering a hearing on the vacation and discontinuance of a portion of north 21st street Located in cheboygan, wisconsin and lying between north avenue and calumet drive And that lies over 1055 is an ordinance for the vacation and discontinuance of a portion of north 21st street Located in cheboygan wisconsin lying between north avenue and calumet drive Now we'll refer to that as safe planning any motion to adjourn Is there a second all in favor say aye Any opposed stand adjourned Thank you