 My family is a big fan of beer and in fact a big fan of hoppy beer and so I'm in the XObrew booth with Bart van de Kui. I got it. He's Dutch and we've been practicing the pronunciation here and you've got some an interesting product here that looks like maybe do something at home. What are you working on here? Yeah what I'm working on is XObrew. It's a company like a compact device with a unique technology and we basically have a cloud-based platform where you can download unlimited recipes. That means you can brew 1.6 gallons of beer or kombucha or ciders and it's ready in three to 30 days. Oh wow so describe this device we're looking at here. Yeah the device what's here on the right of me so basically it's one brewing device. It has a copper kettle. It has an transparent meshed on that's what we call it and on top you have a cylinder where you put in the hops and basically what the brewing process looks like you put the water in the copper keg then you put the mesh in and the hops on top. It circulates so it meshes it boils it cools down and then when you're done with that you need to put a lid on the keg and then it starts fermenting. You can add the yeast when after the fermenting it's done that could be three or thirty days depends on the recipe and you can tap it from the same keg. We make brewing simple you don't need any experience just your creativity but we do want people to feel the real ingredients so we supply people with a brew pack you have 15 different styles from alcohol-free to IPA, stout beers, sour, whatever you like but if you don't want to do a brew pack and you want to do your own thing you can have a subscription on our system it can create your own recipes you can clone other recipes you can make your own twist if you this one that we have here on the right to get to the hop off. Get to the hop off. I've got to describe this to the audience here is the box says get to the hop off and it's a a stylistic representation of someone who might look like Arnold Schwarzenegger he's got he's got the machine guns but it's actually shooting hops out of it. It's a great logo that's a great great line there so that's New England IPA if we were if you were to buy get to the hop off that's what you would be making would be the New England IPA. Yeah that's that's one of the recipes that we offer it's a New England IPA can be done in two weeks so four to five hours brewing and then fermenting is two weeks and then you can tap the beer. Wow that's pretty cool so do you you buy the the the I forgot the name of the product EXO brew and then you subscribe to get these recipes or what's the model yeah the plan is right now because we we started in Europe maybe that's my Dutch name from we sold 5,000 units in Europe that's quite a lot and that's why we now in the US trying to expand here the goal is to offer a beer subscription so you get each week or each month depending on your frequency you get how much you like it how much you like it how many cakes you have and then on the other hand we offer a pro subscription and that means you have access to a library we have about 13,000 recipes there from other users you can either create your own or clone the recipes tweak it and then order your own ingredients from your local shop and then brew it on the EXO brew that's so that's nice so you've got all the different variations you might want and so how much well is this available today then we're taking pre-orders in the US right now okay and shipping in 224 end of the year oh towards the end of the year in 2024 okay and what's your price point going to be on the EXO brew starting is from 8.79 I'm saying starting because most people buy an extra cake it's an extra 300 dollars or buy a second or third one kids the brew kids are 25 dollars starting from is not bad at all no that's great you make 1.6 gallons so that's an afternoon's beer right he said the price already how much is it oh how much to make 1.6 gallons yeah 1.6 gallons on average so like I said about an afternoon's beer right yeah yeah yeah preserves sometimes we get that question as well but most people drink 1.6 gallons at some friends and it's gone in a couple of hours but let's say you drink it by yourself at the the cake hasn't cooling at the back and then it preserves the beer up to three months when it's in the EXO brew yeah you need to keep it in inside the vessel it cools and heats so the basically depends on your home temperature your room temperature what what it needs to do so the size of this thing I'm going to estimate it what is that about three and a half feet three feet at tall maybe a foot and a half wide and maybe two three feet deep something like that so it's maybe not countertop but it's bigger than it's bigger than your kitchen device let's call no brands but we have people that put it in the kitchen yeah oh I can definitely see that yeah in a den or hobby room sure all right well this is very cool so if people want to get involved then they want to find out about EXO brew where would they go yeah you would go to exo brew calm and then on the website you can find everything perfect Bart I really enjoy this this is this is very cool it sounds like a lot of fun