 Welcome back to the east circuit, the only way to turn up your weekend Atumituko Kuchesangomengina po Kali Sana She goes by the name of Sunlight Ingabire I hope I'm pronouncing it correctly Dorokas, all the way from Rwanda Welcome to the east circuit Thank you so much But it's Sunny for short ya Yeah, Sunlight is my real name and it's Omo, you all know that So I use this Sunny as a media name You got into the game, the music industry, all the way back in 2015 Yeah, 2015 That's when you did your first single Yeah Tell us about that, getting into the game in Rwanda It was really hard, ya know It was my first time to Is the market difficult to get into the music industry? It's not difficult to get in You just need to understand what you are doing and you need someone who understands it I was alone and I got somebody to help me to go to the studio but after I record the song I thought you just put in the radio and play the song So everything was supplies Also I tried the TV and then there is a way to pay promotion There is a way this song is not good So it's always the same There's always something There's a conversation going on right now in Kenya but clearly from what you're saying it's everywhere I know, it's really everywhere So what does it take to break into the market from someone who's seen both markets Rwanda and Kenya? I've been seeing this situation but since I'm in Kenya I really hear the music So maybe there might be a problem To me I was thinking maybe there might be a problem for the musician, they do music Yes, they play it, but they don't make money So then they might think they don't play our music So maybe they don't get the show they don't make money That's why they are pissed off a little bit Okay, so how did it do The 2015 track, your first debut single It was good after I put out my video I went to interview I did interview and then I tried to perform along the city and the discourse and some shows to know how it works Everything was really hard for me but finally I make it So then I know how it works I start like this I make another song After I say okay So now I think I understand everything I'm going back to Kenya and look where I can record my music and start go inside the media And now come on, Lisa, Kenya What is your name? Kenya is my name, but I was born in Tengeneza, Mziki I was born in Medi So I was born in Kavaidato Marafiki Can you introduce the musicians, the producers and the presenters? Some of my family members have been featured by Riku Aout and I'm a celebrity I was born in Simsemijina So Riku Aout I was interviewed by Tanzania So it was a picture? Yes Riku Akinamahari was born in Kuwait So when I was interviewed by Tanzania East African TV I was very lucky because that time I was a model and then they interviewed me so I get some Tanzanian contact and then I told them usually I live in Kenya Do you know someone who can From those contacts? Yes, from those contacts And this guy called Lawiz I think you guys know him He's well known and then he gave me contact for studio and then I went to Compound Lakot It's where they make my two songs I have now Nice Natransition Back home before we get into the Kenyan market from being a model being a well known model now becoming a singer or atleast accept Okay, so I want to ask you if you are a model Yes, I am a model I am a model because I am a model in Thailand Singapore I go to Indonesia Malaysia and I was around there and then I came back but you know you can't stay in Asia like permanently it's different in the world with the foreigners maybe even if you are working some countries they are like since you work here you contract to finish you need to move especially when you look like I don't want to say Did you talk once to say it for me? I think it's good for Africans because most of the time black people get big problem outside when they are working so most of the time it's really hard no matter where you work it depends maybe if you are working for a huge company you are making a lot of money like 5 million up maybe that's okay but if you are hustle you are working no more it's really hard especially when you are black person so when your contract finish the company have to make sure they move you to another country because somewhere they really don't want to see you and then you need to be aware for 3-4 years you can be able to work again so they don't want you to be connected inside the country maybe have children maybe become mix mix so they try to avoid that kind of situation so the model industry is like really cutthroat? oh wow modeling industry is not easy things you know it's same like in the music but better music modeling industry it's really hard it's hard things they have money you have to hustle you don't just go and say a model now and it does means in the model you don't need to be beautiful they look how patient you are and how hard working you are so they can use exactly how they want so when you do better then you are in that's where you get money you need to know swimming motorbike driver car driving you need to know a lot of things I do but you need to know a lot of things the more you know the more you get more work before we get back to the music Instagram is filled with Instagram models what place can you give them so that they try to reach your level Instagram models I see many because I remember when I was there I saw a model from here in Kenya she come there she have advertisement so me I was there and I really need to work hard I don't get a job all the time so then me and my agent I told them I will be here I will stay here I will work I need to do extra job as well in studio people making movie advertisement I need to be there for free I pay ticket visa rent and sometimes some countries they want you to pay taxes so you look how much you get and then the taxes it's 40% sometimes me like why don't we do it this way so I come out out in out so you take what you get put here in the leaves so it's always different but I will tell the model outside here be always patient and focus and listen what they told them and look what other people really need to do you can imagine what did she do to be who she to get where she is so why can't I try to be like her or maybe even be better don't copy just do your own but do perfect so you will get there awesome advice like at home upcoming models so now back to the music there's a song in it before the interview began featuring bandana tell me about the experience meeting him and working with him before we get to the song well when I decide I look my music before and I look at the music I'm like what is this I was like reach this level what do I have to do it takes me two years to think what I have to do and how I have to make my video unity when I see my video my song I feel it's real music so I contact this guy I got this contact then I went in the studio and I check on YouTube I want a rapper and then I got bandana so when I ask producer this person he had the contact and then we meet we organize everything and then we make the song it was just that simple I could not believe actually I even cry because I've been well without making a song and I see other people coming up I'm like why this happened to me what's wrong with me I really love to sing it's my patient things I really want to it's my dream and then I was like no I have to do something so the day I was sitting in the studio and the producer started to do the beat and then the guy said yes I would come trust me when I started to record I cry I feel so sad I was like I can't believe I'm here again and I'll say that's it I'm sure now it's the time and I record that one I record another one they make a video for me it's amazing and then I made another one and today I want to continue to do more better things than today how was the reception back at home did you take it back at home oh yes I just came from there for media tour like four days ago then no longer singing model slash singer no no more more things it's a music now and I was really happy because everybody loved my songs let me tell you Kenya I see the situation in the music but people loves you really people loves you people loves your work you do very good work you are so professional and tell me your song the mastering the beat everything is perfect so everybody really love it and I really know how much they play the songs they don't play Kenyan song but I think Kenyan musician they should try it when this is marketing trust me it could be good because they play their song because in Kenya we are getting played they know Kenyan music from there they know plays those they stop jago there is even other people this hotel who is your favorite Kenyan musician favorite that's a hard question why well how could you say there are many all we need is one my favorite okay let me say my favorite 218 hotel why the songs he sings his new music was really good and about love everything for the wedding everything was super cool and he did very well tell me about your second video the solo the second video in my stop it's a stop playing the song they produce a kash kash kid he's the one who recorded and then and he's the one who still recorded the previous one at bandana he's my producer I think he's really good are you planning to sign with kash kid? I think so in Kenya permanently or will you go back to Rwanda? I have been here in 2007 all my jobs everything I got was here all my life I will say my life was breathed by Kenya so it's really easy for me to be here and this is where I grew up when I started to know about life this is where I know flains everybody I know Kenya I know everywhere so that's where I stay stop playing the reception stop playing it's a song I made myself I rated myself it's a really story of a girl she used to love a partner and the partner was married and that partner I was kind of a guy who liked to play music always and he played love music so it makes that woman fall in love with her through the music she used to tell me everything and then I'm like but what do you do sometimes even I'm angry for her so is this like a friend's experience that you decided to put on a song? it's a really story so did the guy finally stop playing the guy she used to fight with him you make me headache you play music then one day I ask her why you like to do this what's wrong his music is quiet cool what's happened what's going on in your office and after she explained for me everything and so the guy didn't stop but after they sit down they talk and after trust me they love each other and now they live together so something good came out of it exactly awesome stuff where can someone find you online because a lot of people are anticipating the good music that is coming through if you got me online or you get me to Instagram it's Sunny Rwanda 12 my official instagram I think you should change it to Sunny Kenya just speaking as a friend no I did Rwanda because I haven't stayed in Rwanda for a while and I wanted them to know I am a musician who come from Rwanda like a diaspora so that's why I say Sunny Rwanda otherwise I'm sunlight don't forget that so Sunny Rwanda I mean Sunny no matter where I can be because she is here so I am Rwandese so Sunny Rwanda everywhere even on YouTube yeah in YouTube it's Sunny Rwanda you will get me but since I changed my music I changed my YouTube channel because I need new music new things even