 does movies live I'm out of breath because I was running around the house saying good night to everybody in the family I almost didn't make this stream on time actually I'm gonna wait I'm gonna wait to say why I'll have my guests actually remind me because it's kind of funny but we have a fun show today we are going to be mourning the death of a beloved cinematic universe the DCEU as it's known as DC Comics Cinematic Universe I believe is the the technical way to say it listen it was a it was a hot wild 10-year run it ended in shambles it kind of fizzled out but I think we'll be stronger for it we'll be better for it and come out kind of like a phoenix rising from the ashes on the other side and maybe two years with James Gunn's Superman legacy a couple pieces of housekeeping before I get into it number one new review is up on the channel for Aquaman 2 Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom I thought it was fine if you want the the spoiler if you want the quick take I thought it was fine stupid fine schlocky two hours in and out never think about it again not too bad I wouldn't I wouldn't go out and spend money on it but if you have like a kid you know maybe like a a nine-year-old son or something a 10-year-old son he's gonna have a great time nice little father son bonding experience or mother son or whatever it is I don't care not that other thing is coming up I have an migration I almost said immigration that would be a weird illumination film to throw out I have a migration review coming up tomorrow or maybe I'll throw it up after the stream I don't it's already edited it's ready to go I have a review for the iron claw coming up tomorrow I have a review for Zach Snyder's Rebel Moon I spaced on the name but I got through it it's all coming up it's gonna be amazing you're gonna have a great time and after this stream is done I will be going live separately on twitch in a different stream to review those movies I'm gonna do live tapings because I just don't have time anymore and I need to give people content so on twitch you're getting this extra special kind of raw untamed version of these reviews okay let's bring in the guest host today we have my buddy Tony from Hack the Movies there he is doing a kind of a dumb dance it's a cell I mean it's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday hello Adam I have the candlelight setting on my led lights for this candlelight vigil nice vigil for the lord and savior Zach Snyder and the Snyder cut and Snyder verse and all that yes the end of the Snyder verse it's an end of an era yes a series of uh some pretty good movies and ones directed by Zach Snyder but you know let's not get ahead of ourselves here well yeah you know the reason Tony's on here today is because I needed an expert and someone that really is passionate about the DC universe Tony's a big avid comic book fan obviously is a massive collection of comics and movies and memorabilia yes so of course he has all of the uh dceu movies I would assume Tony why don't you yes Adam I'm glad you bring that up let me go through my entire dceu cinematic universe uh collection okay of course you know you start off with uh man of steel i'm still yep and that's it I gave up after that one I didn't even I didn't even buy that one that was given to me uh so that really shows you I have every other Batman movie all the super I just bought the old supermans in a 4k box set uh but I only have one dceu movie and I like some of the dceu movies sure not enough to own but anyway yeah well Tony I was gonna say before I forget I almost didn't make it uh on the stream tonight I would have been late because oh no my daughter does these Friday night get-togethers with other weird homeschooled children my kids are both homeschooled because South Carolina is a complete dumpster fire of a state a million people moved here in the last year uh school system is just a disaster my wife my wife's a teacher so it's like hey this is gonna suck but let's let's try it out um at least our kids will learn one thing a day that would be ideal it's funny I brought up that they were homeschooled in a different stream and some of the comments were like oh that explains a lot like what does that explain tell me what that explains I mean I there's I don't get the criticism of homeschool I think it's a good thing to only teach them the bible and just the bible and nothing else um yes yes of course I'm a very very holy individual the uh the reason though so Olivia was at one of these Friday night gets to get together usually they go to like a Chipotle or they go to a coffee shop do something fun but they did a movie night it's like oh cool what movie you're watching and she's like I'm not sure it's between this and now you see me and I thought now you see me I don't even remember that is that like a scary horror movie around christmas time I don't remember I just kind of let it go I ignored it and so I went to uh I went to work and uh hung out with Connor at the coffee shop and we come back and I go inside and the mom's like hey they're just finishing up now you see me uh there's just a little bit left if you could wait I'm like oh god I'm already pressing for time here but yeah maybe and Olivia comes out like a deer in the headlights and I'm just not sure what to think she's being awkward I'm like hey are you ready to go did you want to finish the movie and she's being socially awkward all around it doesn't say anything I'm like okay well Connor and I will wait in the car for you you know and just come out when you're done yeah and I go to the car I'm like what the hell is now you see me and I look up the trail I'm like oh god it's that stupid ass magic card I've never seen them but yeah it's the mission movies right you're so shitty was she scared of them or something or uh she just said it was incredibly boring and awkward and she wanted to leave and she was trying to give me the eyes that say I want to go and I didn't understand it and I'm like so I'm like Olivia there's this new invention that came out it's called a phone you have one you go into the bathroom and you say get me the fuck out of here and then I come over and say hey she needs to leave but uh you know we live and learn I'm pretty bad at that I'm pretty bad at like people giving me like cues of me just out picking up on this prologue what you want to spend the night you want to watch now you see me too which exists like the here's how stupid the now you see me movies are you have a what at least one thing you could do right and that's called the sequel now you don't like how do you screw that up anyway tony we got things to do do you have anything um you know actually we did a uh a little deal together that batman returns commentary track which I still haven't edited and put on my channel well you don't know I edited it for you you didn't give me you didn't wait is the batman returns video on there oh no I don't do the video that's you do the video because you get copyright claim for that not when you send it to me on like a google drive or something so i'm like trying to find batman returns and sync it up well no you just give the audience instructions like they have to find the copy of the movie it's streaming on those things I gave you no where to start it I go all in I go all in I'm going to give them the whole thing I'm too scared look look look before rift tracks got popular and they were able to like license the movies that's how they did it they were like we're just selling the commentary tracks you have to sync it up on your own okay well I guess I could I guess I could do that well anyway that's gonna go up on my patreon at some point but if you don't want to wait you don't know how many you don't know how many water brothers videos I've had copyright claimed by those assholes I'm not I'm not risking anything I beg to differ I know exactly what you mean my channel gets hit like it's its job with copyright claims but Tony has that conversation of batman returns up on his patreon at patreon.com slash hack the movies or you can wait and I will have it up on mine or you can just be members at both that would be great Tony do you have anything fun coming up on your channel before we jump into this yes Monday well actually yesterday I've been doing this thing where I do compilations of franchises I've reviewed and yesterday I put up the King Kong remakes the standalone King Kong remake so it's a compilation of King Kong 76 the sequel to that which most people don't even know exist and then Peter Jackson's King Kong and then Monday is our Christmas episode and it's Edward Scissorhands which is technically on Christmas for the last 30 minutes so I'm counting it as a Christmas movie that's fun and then we'll be back to horror a week later because I've been doing a lot more family friendly stuff this month Homer bound was an emergency episode because I wasn't able to do Lord of the Rings and has it been going well over here Adam to horror in action and we will hopefully be doing the end of the year wrap up uh next Thursday yeah of course well you just have to have hot takes Tony and that's how you get recognized that's what I should do that's what I should you just got to say Aquaman too is the greatest movie of the year top 10 it will be like what the who the hell is this idiot all right uh before we jump in super chats are always appreciated I'll probably save them for the end of the video but put them in now so I don't have to have this awkward like standing around trying to like bag and hold out a hat for some super chats Tony and I will answer questions do what you want to do holidays are coming up I will say right now if you leave a $50 super chat I will interrupt Adam no matter what he's saying and I will read it right away wow don't leave it's $50 someone uh did $100 last last week not last week Tuesday perm gave a $100 super chat you leave $100 I will take my top off I don't know if that's actually gonna reward for you guys I mean yeah I don't I don't know twitch I don't want to get my channel knocked I think twitch is having that problem right now with that weird naked bar stuff going on what is happening in the world now let's get to real stuff like yes tearing up the DCEU yeah let me add to the stage look at this we got a tier maker thing and we have all these beautiful movies real quick if we don't agree on a tier what we're gonna have to talk it through I was gonna say do we do like a poll in the chat where they could decide that's a lot of work for me I don't even know how to do that do I have to go on youtube and do that yeah you'd have to do it on youtube uh I guess we'll just I guess we'll just fight and not agree you know what Tony we could really money this out and say a super chat could break a tie or something for that greedy yes a $20 super chat we'll turn the tide alright Tony as a whole where are you at on the DCEU are you sad I mean I based on your intro probably um I there were there were a couple movies in the a few movies in this series that I really really liked and if I they were they were enough separated where I could just pretend like the ones I didn't like didn't exist and they would work on their own I think because they realized like oh shit our shared universe kind of sucks let's make these for people who are just jumping in and then if you like the universe we'll sprinkle a few things right uh so there are a few I really really like and there's a bunch that I hate well I'm excited to see the passion yeah let's see how this goes well you own man of steel and that is the first film directed by Zach Snyder yes written by David S. Goyer what are your thoughts huh I mean this was this was a little it was an interesting time 2013 I don't know if you remember that uh they were late to the game competing with Marvel okay uh and I was like how are they gonna build this new cinematic universe they've already made the best Batman movie ever and ended it right uh there's really nowhere to go from here uh but then I saw the trailer for man of steel it had a very they were really trying to look like the dark knight trilogy really yeah it kind of felt like it was almost part of it right like yeah actually maybe Nolan stuff could fit in here I I think they were yeah because at one point Superman goes to space and hits a satellite and the Wayne logo on the satellite I think is the Christian Bale Wayne logo really so maybe they were there might have been an idea to be like hey what if uh you know the joy should go to Levitt Batman ends up in this universe um so yeah but I thought the trailers are really good I wasn't the biggest Zach Snyder fan we were talking a little bit about like Watchman really drops the ball at the end sure uh but I was like all right maybe under Nolan's uh guidance maybe they could dish out something pretty good and to Nolan's credit he is a producer but he's also a director so I like that he's mostly a hands-off producer like he won't try to stifle the director's vision too much uh so yeah I went and saw the movie and I went huh they didn't know what to think I think I reviewed it at the time and I was like I guess it was okay and then I woke up like two days later and I thought about it and I was like oh my god that was the worst fucking Superman movie I've ever seen in my goddamn life wow like oh my god I'm like oh that other scene sucked too oh there was another scene that fucking sucked like oh my god this is garbage why did they put this out like oh my like the ending is just a ripoff of Transformers 3 like just a mindless destruction everywhere and Superman's a goddamn idiot and I'm like oh I I can't wait to not watch any of the other films in this franchise except wow he came a YouTuber and I had to talk about him uh so yeah I hate this movie I did not expect that honestly I thought oh no I hate almost everything about this film I hate you know what makes me pissed there are some things that are actually kind of good yeah I'm like man I would have really liked this scene or this moment in a movie that doesn't suck that's the challenge with Snyder is he does often have some pretty good cool ideas that seem so half-baked it's always a promise of what's to come right he'll introduce something like okay well where's that gonna go but then it never goes anywhere I am not in the same boat as you on this movie at all in fact Man of Steel is one of the few in this list that I thought was pretty damn good um like you though I definitely had a kind of a honeymoon phase with the film I remember watching it really liking it digging the look I liked Henry Cavill a lot as the character I like that um I mean he's just strong looking you know it's not like he was well he just fit the mold perfectly he was he was a really well cast Superman but unfortunately he's the worst Superman because he was only given garbage to work with I don't disagree with that however focusing solely on this movie I don't think he had garbage to work with here and I think the name Man of Steel is intentional whether or not it's to separate itself from all the other Superman movies fine but he's not Superman in this movie until the way in I will die on this hill he's not Superman it's called Man of Steel because the title Dark Knight works so fucking well that's fine all that marketing's fine that's fine let's but let's be real he's never called Superman in the movie once no no he is he is he is it's so dumb he actually is called Superman so far to the end just some military guys like they're attacking Superman they go what that's what we designated him like what the fuck is that well okay well I just say like he's not he's not Superman to everyone he's Superman to some jackass soldier oh like that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life did you have a problem with him killing Zod or was that just like icing on the cake that was already about that point I was off of the movie here's some of the problems I had uh I thought you know I thought it was very heroic when all those Kryptonians were around Martha that Superman came in to this empty field and then picked up the leader left his mom defenseless with four other gods and then through this guy mind you he was an empty field into a town and caused a bunch of explosions that killed a bunch of people thought that was very heroic of Superman very Superman thing to do and then I really loved when uh they're in the big stupid ship yeah uh I actually liked that the fortress of solitude was a ship I thought that was a really cool idea and then they ruined it by crashing and anyway um so yeah Superman goes into the ship which has the DNA which is to pre-program people it's fucking stupid uh and the ship is over water I really like that the ship is over water and Superman has plenty of time to stop the ship and he doesn't stop it until it's over 10 000 buildings uh and kills six billion people I thought that was very heroic um I do you think it was heroic when Superman was in front of a building and Zod threw like an oil tanker and I and instead of stopping it with his hands Superman jumped over the oil tanker to make sure it blew up and killed everyone in the building behind him I thought that was really fucking great I did a short little sketch thing for TikTok or something at some point of course I got like you know no views because no one cares but uh it was basically I was one of the patrons at the IHOP and like this is the first day of the rest of my life and it shows like the tanker blowing up the IHOP I I almost made a I for years I wanted to do a skit uh for the dark night where it's like a guy who lost his job and like his girlfriend kicked him out so he goes to sleep in his car and then that's one of the cars that Christian Bale blows up when he's on the motorcycle to chase the Joker um no I really hate Man of Steel it's a guy it's it's there was something good in the script uh maybe just needed a better director or just needed like another polish David Goyer can be a good writer sometimes he's very inconsistent with this rating uh but it's clearly a movie made by people who don't care or even like Superman and like kind of hate Superman so they're like trying to make him like their version of better but it's like no you're kind of ruining the character this isn't what he's like you could have a serious people like oh do you want like the cheesy campy something no you could have like a serious Superman and a bunch of destruction but it's like Superman can't be the one causing the fucking destruction or allowing it to be worse than it is like I did your point to your bad guy in this to your point I do think it's hilarious that Joss Whedon when he took over for the Justice League movie he's like oh fuck I gotta have I have to have some scene just one scene connecting Henry Cavill Superman to like anything so he filmed that terrible iPhone footage of him like smiling with his fake mouth yeah because he had nothing to connect to this guy as a symbol for the people of like this uplifting character because yeah like you said the first movie everything's just a shit show he killed so many people I still defend the first movie the same way I foolishly at the time and this is kind of uh been the same this is bear the same fruit out the same way I defended Force Awakens at the time saying listen they have a plan there's a reason Ray is like a better pilot than Han Solo of the Millennium Falcon and knows how to do this and then everything like they have a reason for it just like they Zack Snyder has a reason for why Superman is untested he's dodging stuff instead of thinking about the people he's more focused on fighting these superpower dudes and trying to hold his own yeah and that doesn't really uh that doesn't really come to fruition in the next film when he's basically a villain already remember when he remember when he fought at Decepticon in the Indie notion for like 10 minutes and it looked like shit remember that I I love the look of Man of Steel and I think the action the super Saiyan gods fighting through buildings is cool as shit like from a surface level that's all Zack Snyder cares about he's like how do I make this look I don't know they look people say that look cool I'm like I don't know they look like rubbery cartoon characters when they were like fighting and flying I thought I enjoyed it I enjoyed it but I also like the final battle in The Matrix Revolutions with Agent Smith and Neo and they look like I mean they look like cartoon characters too and I eat that up I eat you know what else I like Adam what's that I liked uh when um all like the rocks and stuff were like going toward that big portal yeah somehow Lois Lane was falling downwards when everything was going upwards remember that I you do the same thing I do which is hilarious if you don't like a movie you will it will just fester in you and you'll be like this doesn't work I hate this I hate this and I do the same thing if something doesn't work we'll find everything wrong with it it's really annoying like I hate like Jonathan Kent in it I I was glad when the tornado got him I was like fuck you oh dude I agree one thousand percent with that that's the one scene out of all the scenes that frustrates me to no end I hate his character he's such a dipshit and he's like I'm gonna hide you from everyone by sacrificing myself like this is never gonna happen again there's not gonna be any instance where the rest can be revealed like uh I don't want to compare it to the Reeve one uh if they wanted to change it if they wanted to be different than the Reeve one they could have kept Jonathan Kent alive there are some continuities where he does live while Clark is Superman he's alive I think in the Dean Kane show he was alive if they wanted to be different they could do that uh instead they wanted to kill him I'm like yeah but the reason it works in the Christopher Reeve one was because like he had like a heart attack and that was something like Superman couldn't actually fix well yeah that he had for the wrong reasons there's no good message from Pa Kent here it's a terrible man yeah that one it's like Superman could have easily saved him instead he let him die so a couple people under a bridge wouldn't find out his secret I don't know like like I'm like this is the dumbest thing in the world like it was more effective but it's like oh I can't actually save everyone that was a good lesson that he learned well it and also Superman's faster than a freaking bullet no one would have even seen him save him it would have been like a blip you know yeah I agree on that overall though I dug the the focus on Krypton for the first like 30 minutes I thought that whole intro stuff was fantastic oh did you like the space dildos I did like the space I love the space it brought me home I saw that in the theater and I went what the I like I had to do a double take of like those pods look like dildos they don't like Tony I don't know if you know this or not but uh there's a subset of men that have money and they really want to like show their alpha maleness by making penis rockets that's like what they do that's what we do we're like you know what that's valid enough to work by the way I was also disappointed like I really like Michael Shannon and I was real excited to see him as Zod yes and I'm like oh this is poor fucker I'm like no no no Zod is awesome Michael Shannon his the way he says this one line is one of my favorite line deliveries in all of cinema we're like I will find him it's so ridiculous and I love it every time um that's another thing it wants to be different than the Christopher Reeve movie it's like well why did you do Zod yeah Zod is a character from the comics but the movie is what really made him popular yeah it's like if you want to differentiate yourself pick a different villain like what the fuck why did you you're just remaking those two movies but work this is rod this is not like he could have done anything like parasite or something parasite would be a good one they never do parasite I don't even know what parasite is Tony that's that's just gibberish he's a purple guy who could absorb like power he's basically kind of like rogue so he actually can go toe to toe with Superman and actually take his power problem like that's kind of like incredibly um like deep cut because I played the Lego games and I don't remember a freaking parasite as one of the parasite was in the animated series okay he was in a lot of things give me a break well how are we gonna even how are we gonna fight this one off I well this is f this is f this is not this is an a I'm putting this out this is you're putting this at an f this is like the start of all the problems of this oh wait it's like oh the first film in your universe your hero is like the worst guy ever it's totally unlikable it actually kills more people than the bad guy like oh my god did you not see Iron Man one like what the fuck are you doing it's actually clearly hate Superman like I never really get to really know this Clark he just oh yeah he is actually doesn't give a shit about Clark and let's be honest the the Christopher Reeve Clark works a lot better to kind of fool people as far as for like this Superman is like jacked up yeah I'm a reporter doesn't really work some of the visuals were nice putting the glasses on and taking them off with anyone uh no I can't make fun of that anymore uh as you know I as you know I do do the Godzilla podcast right uh and in the first the original Godzilla movie there's a guy with an eyepatch and then many movies later that actor comes back as a different character with a different eyepatch yeah and I'm like oh they got that guy back again and I'm like oh Johanna let's see what other movies he was in and then I realized he had been in like five movies we reviewed but he didn't have an eyepatch so I didn't know it was him and I'm like I can never make fun of Lois Lane again I did the same thing I'm like well that guy's not weird an eyepatch clearly not him clearly can't be him I can't go f on this movie that's just unfair that's unfair to the film there's enough there to at least push it to a c just from a the cinematography standpoint action standpoint I love I love the cast of the casting of um I forgot his name now Henry Cavill I thought that was perfect even if the writing's terrible even if he kills some people which is debatable listen Tony I never saw any casualties in those buildings that eye hop was pretty much empty when that tanker went into it all those people and if you're on an eye hop at two o'clock in the afternoon on a Tuesday death might be a better option anyways let's be honest he's saving liars by snuff I love how they like Zach said he does this in the next one but like in this movie he introduced like a Neil Hamill who's like a very famous like scientist in the DC universe yeah and then he just gets fucking killed in a rocket ship like who was the point of introducing him you gotta watch the extended edition I mean if you're putting this at an F where does Batman be Superman have to go are we there yet we're not I'm putting this at a C I'm putting it at a C it's a compromise right down the middle it'll make everybody happy middle of the road and we'll just know that I would have it you are kind of winning me over and the fact that the DCEU going forward would become kind of a dumpster fire does make me think a B would be more appropriate for my personal review but I'm going to put it at a C knowing that you hate this film and I think it's one of the better ones of this franchise you know it's funny I did see uh I saw the the term monster verse in here I remember a year later people were like trying to shit on Godzilla they're like oh you guys shit on man it's still for cause of destruction but Godzilla also destroyed the city it's like yeah it's different when it's a fucking lizard like Godzilla's not there to protect people he was just there to kill the monster it's a different one Superman does sure but he's not Superman yet Tony let's move on to the next one he's Kellel he's kill L we have this is so every time I see this my brain just explodes that Batman v Superman is the second movie in the DCEU this should be like Civil War Avengers where it's 12 movies in or 20 movies in or whatever but we're right away Batman v Superman Wonder Woman's introduced Aquaman's introduced Cyborg's teased like these people are just randomly in the background in these perfectly labeled folders by Lex Luthor by the worst Lex Luthor oh my god I you know when I saw the trailer for this I was already off I'm like oh I don't give a shit about any of this this is going to fucking suck I was ahead of the curb when I was like oh no why are you guys excited for this it's going to blow I love bringing people together speaking out when I said now you see me yes when I saw his performance of the trailer I'm like I hoped to guide he decided that the movie was shit and he just just had fun and did whatever he wanted and it'll be entertaining yeah uh and then it wasn't I was let down by that the first trailer for bvs had me shooking had me shaken had me shook I thought it was phenomenal I thought oh my god this movie looks to be legit we got Ben Affleck who's just roided out of his mind looks fantastic you got Henry Cavill beautiful cinematography again Snyder's doing it and then that second trailer dropped and I don't think the moniker was even on the first one it wasn't called dawn of justice yet maybe it was I don't know then yeah maybe I just ignored it and how stupid that was but then in comes wonder woman out of nowhere shot out of a cannon and you have what is it doomsday looking like a fucking ninja dark dark no no doomsday no no doomsday you're right you're right doomsday like the Michael Bay doomsday ninja turtle comes off the side of a building and then I'm thinking oh my god what happened between these trailers now I know exactly how this movie is going to play out Batman be super Batman superman become best buddies team up with wonder woman and they have to fight this giant CG which is one of those guys were like people were like yeah I read comics and then they only read like the most popular ones and then that's it it's like oh wow you read the death of Superman in the 90s oh and you read the dark night returns yeah yeah cool did you read like trinity that was a really good one that introduced those characters it was a fun oh you didn't read trinity did you you read like world's finest from the 90s that was like a retelling about me I didn't read that one either Zach but you read the death of Superman one of the biggest comics ever and the dark night returns and you're only going to pull from those two like why is he doing doomsday in the second movie because Snyder's the type of guy that like he fast forwards movies to the action scenes so when he looks at comic books he's skimming all the like origin story and all the boring shit he's like okay who can I put in that's really cool we're just going to do it right away what would be super awesome killing Superman that wow that would be amazing wouldn't it yeah before he's even established as this like beacon of hope let's kill him let's take him out that was the weird thing where they're like it's like yes Superman's going to inspire people it's like what everyone hated him and they should have hated him he was a terrible person he caused the death of so many people I don't know why they built a statue for him and he's Snyder acknowledges it which is even more hilarious the the intro to the movie is the destruction from Man of Steel and Bruce Wayne's looking out pissed rightfully so like this is a big 9-11 attack taking place yeah I'm hooked right away I'm thinking wow okay this is exactly what I was hoping he would do except for with the bbs crap I was hoping it would just be another Man of Steel movie but he's acknowledging that this dude was untested he's he's he made a lot of mistakes he killed a lot of innocent lives and now this Superman actually has a lot of baggage and we can give him something that makes him interesting the problem Superman always has with a lot of critics I don't have a problem with Superman but a lot of critiques about him are he's boring because he's perfect so what do you do with a guy that's indestructible you have to give him reasons to to like want to go out and fight and want to be a savior and I thought a really compelling reason would be oh shit I'm responsible for killing like a fuck ton of people because I was too busy fighting a bunch of aliens thinking I was doing the right thing I clearly have to kind of like step back inward and and make amends with this but no instead it's just he he did a bunch of stuff and Batman needs to take him out without doing even the bare minimum amount of research oh my god I do which is hilarious I couldn't Batman the master detective right that's kind of what he's known for a world thing is detective doesn't realize what everybody else knows that Superman is Clark Kent yeah somehow raised by parents on earth instead he's like how can I make a kryptonian armor and spear why a spear out of every I don't know but yet literally he could have just like talked to Superman why'd you say that name like what are your intent super I could have been like by the way I know it's you Bruce Wayne yeah like I have x-ray vision uh let me yeah I he does no detective work at all and like he does very minimal detective work and then Lois Lane is on this other side mission where she's investigating these bullets bullets yeah yeah that we're like shot into a crowd I will say the director's cut fixes some plot holes yeah but when those plot holes were fixed at the end of the day I'm like well you could have just rewritten the movie did not be that complicated and confusing like like I was just like why did Superman not like know that there was a bomb in that thing and I think there's a deleted scene where Lois Lane is like it was led that's why he couldn't see it and I'm like wait in this continuity they haven't established the lead weakness but okay uh yeah and then I was just like in the theatrical cut when the Capitol building blows up uh Superman just leaves and I'm like what a fucking asshole in the director's cut they showed that he actually did help a little bit that there's a scene this is a perfect example of Snyder doing something really cool and impressive and then immediately undercutting what he did we're not fleshing it out when Bruce Wayne goes to the courthouse and we're gonna ignore the jar of piss that was on the table and how ridiculous that was the the sweet tea or whatever oh my god when he's standing there though and everything blows up killing oh you mean sorry you said Bruce Wayne you mean Superman I'm sorry I'm sorry uh Cal-L Superman Clark Kent whatever when he's standing in the courtroom and everyone's decimated he's just standing there unfazed everything's blowing up and it's all filmed I'm like oh my god this is actually pretty damn smart and cool Lex Luthor totally set him up he's painting him as this awful villain and now the world hates him but then on the news report that same like instantly after that a news report goes on yeah Superman wasn't responsible for the explosion it was planted in a in a wheelchair like how did you even figure that out first of all and secondly what was the point of any of that then did you like the montage of him saving people and looking miserable doing it I'm like oh my god and like really reaching up at the sky and he's like oh fuck you yeah I think clearly like because uh people pointed out I think even the director's cut Superman in this movie has less lines of dialogue I think than Spider-Man in Civil War Spider-Man's not even a main character in that movie yeah yeah um yeah and again they cut out a lot of stuff that was meant for him but yeah like I like Ben Affleck he could have been a good bad man he's terrible in this uh he's he got in great shape but then they also padded the suit too much so I think it's a cool suit but on him it looks like garbage it's just like it's too like bulky and awkward looking I liked his um Transformers-esque armor suit though that thing was badass well yeah that was from uh Ninja Turtles no this was from Dark Knight Returns that outfit it reminds me of well maybe this is what they were kind of doing an homage to but in that stupid TMNT movie that animated one Raphael has that cool eyes that looked almost identical to the yeah on Batman this is the one from that famous comic where he does fight Superman but in that comic they have like a history together it's under different circumstances Zack Snyder just wanted the look of the suit it's so funny if you watch like the first like Man of Steel like okay so Superman could just easily break through the whole of a spaceship meant for interstellar travel yeah and then Batman puts on a metal suit and be like this will help me it's like no you're fucking dead you idiot stop him like the fact that like Superman does it automatically like shoot him with his lasers should let Batman know oh maybe he's not here to murder everyone because he could have easily murdered me like 10,000 times and Superman tells him that over and over he's like I wanted you dead you'd already be dead oh yeah you just pick him up and throw him into fucking space yeah like super really literally nothing you could do could stop me except for the kryptonite that's one thing I'll give it with that stupid world engine in the first movie which by the way that's the worst name for like a terraformer the world engine I did like that it made kryptonite because that's like the whole thing it's like Jesus Christ this planet blew up how many fucking asteroids landed on earth how are you guys always finding kryptonite okay it made kryptonite or something there yeah um no I I hate this movie I hated it in the theaters I hate it what they did with doomsday money shouldn't be in the movie and then they're like we've lost over so much of this shit show I think I've told you this story before I'll do a really quick version but I went to the theater with friends and my brother and some people and we don't go to movies often anymore and so he gets up at one point to go to the bathroom and when he gets up Bruce Wayne is doing something boring he's on his computer just like looking at notes and checking his email so Jake's like okay I'm gonna go to the bathroom quick he came back you know we pee fast guys pee fast he was in and out in like a minute he comes back and there's demon flies everywhere batman's in a duster with the power demons thank you very much the para demons yes and my brother looks at me like a deer in the headlights he's like what did I miss and I turn like I don't know this just happened Bruce Wayne was checking his email and then he just cuts to this shit show out in the Mad Max world and there's no explanation for it ever in the rest of the movie fantastic it's a dream I guess but it wasn't because the flash then comes out of a portal yeah Martha's the key or whatever he said I don't know Lois yeah yeah Lois is the key and then he wakes up from another thing it's like wait I know the flash can time travel as a DC Comics fan I know that's something he could do I don't think he has dream time traveling power that doesn't make any fucking sense it was so stupid I just did not understand that was the point where I was done the movie up until that point I was kind of like all right this isn't bad and then that happened and I just I was out I'm like what are we doing what about that awful scene we're like superman it's like in the Arctic and then he has the dream of his like dead father like Jonathan Ken is that where he's like throwing bricks for some reason like like piling rocks by the way I think the writer of this ended up doing Rise of Skywalker and there's also a confusing scene with the dead dad and that yeah yeah yeah he's a he's a force dad but he didn't have the force but um he gave him that ability I guess and speaking of uh sacks that are not giving a shit about like uh Superman characters yeah um I know they give Amy Adams like her own little plot line just to give her something to do because she's like an Oscar winning actress who they have somehow sandwiched into this film yeah I always forget that uh what's his face um Mr. White the the guy who runs the newspaper it's like Lawrence Fishburne he's barely in it I forgot he was in these movies yeah uh Perry White he plays Perry White um they race they race swap the character I don't know why Zach Snyder would do that and then they didn't say his name in the theatrical cut which was smart but in the director's cut you find out the photographer cia agent is Jimmy Olsen in the beginning want to get shot in the head yeah I'm like oh we're just killing Superman's pal that's great awesome yeah it's so edgy it's so dark and remember Robin's dead too they have the robin suit with the ha ha's all over well if you're doing an older batman that one I'll like kind of let's lie but it's like oh this is our introduction to Jimmy Olsen and now he's shot in the fucking face cool thanks Zach Snyder that was awesome thank you so much for doing that there's yeah there's like big characters in this movie that are just sprinkled and you don't even know like like Vicki Vale the Kim Basinser character from batman 89 sure yeah she's in that like weird gala scene where batman like Bruce Wayne meets Henry Cavill it's like why is that character even there and Jen alone got all of her scenes cut all together Jen alone got all her scenes cut and she was like no one she was like not a character and then fucking uh Lex Luthers is known for having that like female sidekick uh Mercy Graves who in the cartoon was awesome she did like kung fu and whatnot yeah she gets fucking blown up in this like why are you introducing characters just to blow them up and kill them in your shared universe where you're supposed to be planning more movies everybody dumb asshole everybody's killing everything in this movie batman batman kills about as many people in this film as Superman did in the first film okay that's it's they probably have batman 89 like Batman is like not killing and then at the end he's just massacring people like where is this coming from I here's the deal Tony we're taking a lot of time we only have two of these done I'm sorry I'm no no it's fine I promise it'll get shorter it'll get shorter as we get through this shit show but these early ones definitely set the tone and it wasn't a tone a lot of people were into yeah and I liked Wonder Woman in it but like that line the I thought she was with you it doesn't it fun for the trailer but it didn't make sense they were friends for five seconds and they're like suddenly but like I'm joey and I'm Chandler now but like Bruce Wayne Batman has been like investigating her yeah it's like you would know if she was with him or not like and they give her that theme song that means no he hasn't had her own movies so she says yeah doing this in reverse was pretty like I get what they were trying to do they wanted to speed things up but it did not no no because then the next few movies are like the solo films to introduce these characters and then the one came out after the big crossover aquaman like I movies deep still from this I'm going to come out for five more films so yeah Batman v superman I I genuinely I generally don't like when Batman fights superman because like I feel like I have this criticism and I actually did a whole video before this movie like a year before this movie came out yeah every time there's like a batman superman fight whoever's writing it has decided that superman is an idiot who relies on brute strength and it's like well no if you read his comics he's really not and then and then Batman for some reason it's like well this character's supposed to be your friend why why did you study how to kill him why are you constantly coming up with ways to kill him in case you go it feels weird and most of the time it's like you can just talk like it's one thing if like one of them is like brainwashed I kind of let that slide uh but yeah there was no made sense that superman had to sacrifice himself like why did he have to go into the spear you're gonna just you know kind of put it on the side of his body or thrown it he's super strong and they're like kryptonite works as well as the writers want it to work if he could still fly while holding it for a little bit he could have thrown it or he could have been like hey wonder woman hey wonder woman why don't you help out I love how Batman is so completely useless every time going forward he's like hiding behind a building with a gun yeah dude I'm Batman there was that one trailer of him like like using the grappling gun and the lightning behind him and it looked like the one cover from Dark Knight Returns and people are like that's gonna be great and then we watched the movie it's like oh in the context of the movie he's running because he's so useless at this point yeah he's like fortnighting out of the the battlefield he's like yeah he had his cool fight scene and then nothing after that he had nothing to do after that he's like and Tony that's what was gonna lead me to giving this movie a a D because only of the warehouse fight scene but then again if he wasn't like killing the it's honestly just the one shot of him slapping the grenade to kill those guys but if he just got rid of that I kind of would have been on board with it or when he's in the Batmobile just gunning people oh my god dude speaking of Batmobile so ever since I was a kid like my favorite scenes in a lot of these movies are the Batmobile scenes yeah and we were so spoiled with Nolan trilogy yeah because we had like on location stuff we had really good miniatures even when they did do digital car chases it looked really really good and they were like so tight and exciting and this looked like a CGI fucking xbox 360 cut scene I hated every goddamn second of it reminded me of burnout you remember the burnout games yeah those games are sweet but you're like drifting around just blowing up everywhere yeah and it's just like it's it's so terrible and I felt bad for Jeremy Irons in this movie me and him you know we all have we have the same birthday as those Adam West and you know we've all been in Batman movies and I just feel bad out of the three of us Adam less me and Jeremy Irons he's been he's like in the worst Batman movies I I feel bad I feel bad for the guy Tony where you want to put you want to put this at enough this is F right next to the man of steel for me F um you know what I uh I've been generous to this movie over the years and I really don't know why I hate I do hate this movie and people told me watch the director's cut and I was hesitant and I just kept saying it's more it's more movie I'm hoping the extended editions actually somehow less movie because then I think it would work better if you cut off 45 minutes of this shit show removed Wonder Woman entirely yeah because she's so out of place get rid of doomsday in that final act and you might have a watchable film the director's cut literally just fixes a few plot holes but then you still have all those scenes of Lex Luthor with Holly Hunter and I'm like I don't care about this subplot at all why is Holly Hunter in the movie more than Batman what the fuck is this the five Snyder cut fans that I had left on this channel Tony are now gone because of you I'm sorry you're seeing real times why would you invite me for this one I don't I genuinely didn't know you hated these so much and I think it's hilarious that would be like inviting the guy who made sure Godzilla minus one didn't get 100% onto your Godzilla podcast what idiot would do that and you know what's more wild is we're not like calling each other names or threatening each other or saying you're bad parents it's weird how you can like disagree somewhat I actually don't disagree with you on Batman v Superman though I do think the movie is absolute hot trash and it's only gotten worse I don't know why they gave him even more creative control after Man of Steel underperformed like Man of Steel made its budget back but like it wasn't like an impressive I know I thought that the movie made a lot of money I'm pretty sure it did really well at the box office but the critics and stuff just destroyed it it didn't like this is the thing they wanted it to do like dark night numbers or like Avengers numbers and it just did kind of whatever I'm gonna look because I thought it did really well that movie Superman box office no I said a man of steel man of steel I think didn't do super well oh yeah but you surmended 872 million yeah but think about this dark night and dark night rises which just had Batman yeah made over a billion dollars and then they really yeah both of them made over a billion and then you have the movie with Batman Superman Wonder Woman and it makes less than a billion yeah that's I mean you're right that that's that's embarrassing embarrassing it's embarrassing yeah I don't think they wanted to really use them going forward I think they were kind of married to this situation and but I mean we'll probably never know all the ins and outs yeah oh the fact that they went into production on Justice League before Batman v Superman came out yeah like that was a bad idea it's like oh you should have pumped the brakes a little bit like I know you're playing catch up but like yeah you could tell like after Batman v Superman like totally dropped the ball then they start making like radical changes to their movies and we're about to talk about the next one yeah I'm gonna just probably preemptively go ahead and throw this right here fair yeah unfortunately it's like we will never see the right cut of this movie not that I think it would be much better I always said like there's probably a better cut of this movie but the better cut of this movie is probably on par with like for the dark world like yeah I'm gonna be much better yeah I don't I yeah I agree I don't think it's gonna be good because that original trailer was really dark and kind of boring looking and they added all that color and tried to like pop it up with shitty music and yeah I just I don't see it being any good either because they let it was still the same character and there's more of that than no thanks yeah then he uh they panicked after Batman v Superman got totally wrecked yeah they're like uh just add a lot of fun stuff to the trailer well not only did Batman v Superman get wrecked but Deadpool made like a billion dollars yeah and Deadpool was very fun it was very colorful and lively so they thought yeah let's let's throw I mean they had did they CG that unicorn that came out of a boomerang jacket I'm pretty sure they did because that was straight up from Deadpool I just thought well why is it even his jacket the one rumor was like uh the the company that cuts trailers like did an edit on the movie that's why you have those weird like kind of like graphics in the beginning introducing everyone but there's not a lot of that later on in the film they clearly sprinkled in a bunch of songs to be like Guardians of the Galaxy but like well Guardians of the Galaxy kind of had a reason for all those songs and they kind of meant something yeah this you're just throwing in like fucking M&M randomly for no reason that's that's the insult right I mean James Gunn takes his time and he he preps and storyboard sequences around music like he has that it might be for filming these were clearly afterthought sad attempts to mimic the same thing with zero results and like the the suicide squad like being like a fan of the comics and whatnot like this is like the way the movie set it up it's like Amanda Waller's there I think she's well cast I'm glad they kept her and they're going to Davis is so funny in this yeah I love how there's there's like 10 minutes of story introduction and then on a nowhere viola Davis is narrating it just makes no sense she's like and this is why I was called like who is this sassy black woman who's Amanda Waller is a really good character in the DC universe she's like one of the best she's good later too in the movies but not this one yeah no not this one but like I think she's one of the few things they're keeping in the new universe and I'm like okay that's good but yeah she's like we need a team in case there's another Zodd or something it's like none of these guys can compete with that Harley Quinn's got a bat that's her that's her skill set she's got a bad she looks hot these are the guys you send to do like little missions and whatnot and if they get caught you could blow their head up or they could just be like well they're bad guys that's why they were there we can just say we're bad guys it's what we do can we we almost need to put this at a D just for just for Margot Robbie being cast as this character almost gives it a D just for that I yeah this movie didn't really help her and like she did do better she's better as Harley Quinn in the other ones yes she she wasn't great in this one but she looks I mean she looks the best in this one although I hate that costume just looking at her in general as a human being I'm like all right I'm into it and then you say it's Harley Quinn I'm like what the fuck is she wearing why is she not wearing why did they wait what two movies before she wore red and black I'm like you just she has it in a flashback for two seconds in this movie yeah she has the original costume but I'm just like which is more frustrating it's like wait you actually made the costume yeah like what the fuck um yeah and then like uh it's I actually like the red and black like leather suit she had in the second Suicide Squad I'm like I would have been fine with that in this one but they gave her these weird like booty shorts and the put in thing I'm like what the fuck is the end of this it's springboarded it cost players for years to come Tony so I'm not like super upset about it and then they're not even like using the characters right like Captain Boomerang yeah he does cool stuff with Boomerangs in this movie he's just kind of slicing people with them yeah and then he uses one as a drone and then it's like okay dead shot awesome character he's known for being a great sniper and doing these like cool trick shots he does like one trick shot in the movie in the beginning and then the rest of the movie he's mostly just shooting people at close range like well that's not as impressive um yeah and then I don't have anything nice to say about this movie I remember seeing in theaters and just being so shell shocked by how horrible it was yeah and you could tell studio meddling was a major factor for this more than any other movie probably to exist on the planet I thought killer croc I thought killer croc looked cool but then again he was written like shit I didn't like how killer croc looked at all my son at the time was probably eight and he really liked this movie and then he turned nine and he's like you know what dad this movie is not good like oh that's I'm glad you came to that conclusion on your own I kept my mouth shut because I don't want to ruin your you know your childhood but saying something sucks I do that for adults though and they still feel like they need to attack I'm sorry I just saw the chat say katana was in it and I'm just remembering the best line they got the best line in the movie by rick flag who they they somehow fixed miraculously in the next one but he has to say the line this is katana she traps the souls of her she traps the souls of her victims in her sword like this is yeah this is how they built her character like who talks like this but then that was like a weird addition I'm like I think she is in the Suicide Squad comics but like she's not a bad guy she's like I know I'm like what's she doing here but then there's like a weird thing at the end so she doesn't kill the big fiery guy and chantress's brother who I think people forget is even a character chantress who's doing like like a twerking dance the yeah don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me so the fire guy kills him and himself but then the chantress I think she looks at katana and she's like kill me so I could be with my brother and I'm like but Katana didn't kill your brother with the sword why do you want to be with this what the fuck I'm like did something do we miss something did something get cut everything got cut and charlotte sucks charlotte sucks and there used to be a youtuber who did a lot of videos he was a big fan of the joker I don't know if you know about him adam but he uh he really did not like charlotte oh and then he got a little too problematic for youtube and he had to stop making videos how can I not laugh like the other jokers what can I do that's my laugh that's my laugh I still don't get what like the joker's point in this was so so stupid he's got the grill he's got the the literal like LOL on his he's the joker tear drop tattoo he wants to save Harley Quinn he's going through all these hoops to save Harley Quinn I'm like but but why let's hey let's not forget this movie won an oscar that's right for what is it makeup that's costume and makeup I think that's what a what a weird thing to be like academy award-winning film suicide squad and it's for that I mean these characters look ridiculous for the most part is there nothing better up lord of the rings has oscars for best costume and makeup that makes sense to me suicide squad not quite on the same level I think star trek beyond came I mean suicide squad definitely did have more of an impact yeah with its costumes or whatnot people still dress it up as those characters Harley Quinn of course yeah maybe but no again I feel bad me putting it out enough because we technically will never see the actual version of the movie well this is the version you and I paid for to go see in theaters so we're speaking with our wallets yeah all right next on the list we might actually have something that we can cheer for yeah gal Gadot who made a splash in bvs in the worst way possible I did not like her in that movie I thought she was like this ooh sexy cut you know like cocky Amazonian who came out of nowhere she's super just lame but in this movie man she did it she she she won me over with her charms she won me over with her stoicness her strength her kindness her chemistry with um Chris pine really worked I love the Amazonian island I loved all of that shit there are there are hangups mostly in the final act um I don't I don't like her band of brothers I feel like that was forced upon Patty Jenkins because of that stupid black and white photo from bvs right she's like oh god I got to have like a stupid sniper that doesn't want to snipe and a piper who doesn't pipe and the mechanics he doesn't fix and I mean it's so and the sniper thing I don't even think when anywhere did he ever do anything I don't I don't even remember off the top of my head but I other than the fact that it takes place in a universe at the time I'm like I'm really mad that this takes place in a universe I hate because this movie is really really good uh I really enjoyed this one I saw twice in theaters um I saw it with friends and I took my goddaughter who was like eight at the time and I know my daughter was two and she was over the moon about it yeah I know a lot of people say stories like this on uh twitter and whatnot and they're clearly lying uh but no my goddaughter like actually got excited during the fight scenes was punching along she really really enjoyed it yeah um yeah it does get and even Patty Jenkins admit that the ending is kind of weak because they need it like just like a schlocky good guy fights the bad guy thing well it's just we it's weird that they would go it's weird that they would go so hard in the first movie yeah who should we have Wonder Woman fight to kick things off uh I don't know how about the god of war the god of war there's nowhere but down to go from that god of war this is the this is the guy yeah and and then they didn't really give us him what was something about that is like really mustachio bad yeah what was disappointing about that is like there was like a toy that leaked and he actually looked really really cool and then when you see him in the movie I'm like oh that helmet's not that cool um yeah but no I liked uh except for the cheesy ending but at that point I was kind of already on board yeah I mean it's not terrible the ending's still fine it's just yeah considering she's fighting the god of war it probably should have been a bit larger scale than a clear green screen back and forth you know throwing fest yeah but uh yeah I I this is probably the one it's one of the best it's top three for me for sure for the oh no I have this for me I have this at S tier I think this is the best it got really this is it so is this okay we should so S tier of course stands for Snyder tier does this S tier for you um is this encapsulate all movies in general or is this just contained within the DCEU just contained within the if I was going all movies in general this would never even be anywhere close to the S tier road house is in the S tier by itself okay well that's good to have that on the table because I was kind of looking at these as just all just movies in general not within the DCEU but maybe that's I don't know how tier makers work maybe you're supposed to stay within the realm I think we're just supposed to stay within the ones we're doing well then in that case I feel like Man of Steel has to be higher but maybe maybe we can revisit that you're going S tier with Wonder Woman I would agree within the context of the DCEU yes this is an S tier film yeah and it's got like really good memorable moments I love when she like goes on to No Man's Land um by the way I'm I really like that they didn't do the obvious line where he's like it's called No Man's Land no man can cross it I was I was ready to cringe at her going I'm no man I said she did it and I'm like wow huh and you know what credit to Zack Snyder yeah he did come up with the story for this and this film had a uh I forget who the writer was but it had a really good writer and Patty Jenkins was able to execute this script really really well I want everyone to remember that Patty Jenkins didn't write this movie because it's important for later and she also didn't direct it Zack Snyder goes to direct this film according to the internet and people that are experts of Zack Snyder know well she's not really like an action movie director so she did do a lot of those like slow down and speed ups yes the early 2000s like oh I don't think she's watching uh superhero films in Stare Devil this part seems a little dated I'm into it oh no no no that's Snyder that's Snyder's stank all over that but the thing is Snyder's stank would be it being constantly slow-motion yeah I know that it's not Snyder because she actually slowed down at the cool stuff Snyder lately with these last few movies he's like I'm gonna do a slow-mo speed up when someone's like brushing their teeth or when someone's like putting like pushing dust off their shoulder it's never doing the cool shit anymore yeah now it's like whoever whoever told Zack Snyder about a phantom camera that does those like insane frame rates for slow motion I I want to go back in time be like hey don't tell him that camera exists don't tell him that 300 is like freaking epic I love 300 I love it no cap Tony I love it people still say no cap I don't think so but I'm AF AF 100 boom I say things when they're out of out of date because it sounds uh hold on Adam I'm gonna plank hold on give me a second yeah can you plank on something oh what was the there was a there was a word that people said constantly for a year straight I loved the word and now I can't remember it maybe it'll come back to me later but we'll get there okay so we have Wonder Woman at S tier which is Snyder tier as we know which is funny because his other movies that he directed aren't in there no um okay let's go to this shit show which is the Justice League as it's been lovingly referred to yes okay here's the deal people for anybody that's watched my channel for a while oh on fleek iron wolf god is on fleek wow yes Wonder Woman is on fleek yes and I don't and I listen I don't usually read any comments unless they're super chats because regular comments are beneath me but iron wolf showed up with on fleek ready to go I appreciate it okay a movie that's not on fleek would be the Justice League but I have to say this anyone that knows me I've been bitching all year and I promise I'll stop soon at some point about movies being too long and I really I just love shorter films so what we have here is a situation where one of these movies is basically an hour and 45 minutes long yeah another one is 75 hours long with chapter breaks if you love Zack Snyder films you're probably going to be really happy with the justice or I'm sorry with the Snyder cut if you don't like his movies and you want them to be over as fast as possible you might be more inclined to enjoy the weed and cut I fall right in the middle of this boring mediocre mess where I can appreciate what Snyder was trying to do but every time this jackass gets his story out there he takes one big step forward and then 14 steps backwards this guy should be writing new seasons of lost because he puts so much bullshit into his movies why is martian manhunter pretending to be martha oh are we doing both of them at the same time I would like to do both of them at the same time okay same freaking movie no one was cut up to hell and back no it was funny because that marthe c was genuinely actually pretty good yes it was because fans were there was like this fan theory that that guy was martian manhunter and I guess they wanted to put it in the movie but they put it in like the worst possible spot I'm like that means nothing now again it's the courtroom scene again yeah something wild happens it's like okay there's snakes now this is there's tension it and then immediately he undercuts it with some dumb decision to like have a fan gasm and be like look it's right I watched this with my family and all of my my two kids my wife were like what that wasn't martha like they were so sad I was so defeated and like yeah that's martian manhunter and they don't know who that is who the fuck knows martian manhunter except for the nerds online we're talking about probably 10 percent and I'm being generous 10 percent are gonna know who this person is that's terrible like that's just terrible I mean he is one of the original justice league characters right but you have to you have to treat a movie as a standalone story no I mean he definitely should have been in the movie it's just the way they put him in the movie was so terrible um because he introduces characters before he introduces characters I know okay so real quick yeah the justice league yeah let's get into it I saw it in theaters I brought um I brought my goddaughter again because she really liked Wonder Woman and she enjoyed this movie I had like fun with it but like I knew it wasn't like the real movie yeah um and I know a lot of people give shit to Joss Whedon and I'm not talking about like the controversies outside of the movie but like with the movie it's just like well I mean how much better could he have fucking done first off he's a totally different director yes he's only doing this so he could do that fat girl movie which he ended up not even doing uh because he got canceled um so he's got a totally different thing and the studio because they've already lost money on this franchise they're like by the way we want to give ourselves bonuses and this movie sucks and can you make it under two hours so we'll play on more screens so now he's got to condense everything down into under two hours right when this is clearly a movie this is the one movie that probably should have been longer yeah um and he's got to make it more fun and exciting like I I understand some of the changes he made uh but then there's some like awful CGI and again the Henry Cavill mustache you know what props the paramount for being like I'm sorry you want us to you want us to shave his mustache for the movie we need yeah for your piece of shit yeah not happening we're not and I love apparently Warner Brothers even said they did test footage and they're like look we can put it the beard on him in post we've done tests we're willing to pay for it and paramount's like fuck you go see mission impossible fallout so there's that I I get it it's like a worst looking movie the story doesn't really make oh it looks it looks so much it's a bad looking movie the plot doesn't make sense there's like weird plot holes because of how much they chopped it up but at the end of the day if you put like a this is like me with like Batman forever when I was five yeah not a great movie kind of stupid but a five-year-old is going to be like this is the best movie ever and my god daughter liked it it's movie it's manageable it's a manageable movie to watch and it's the only one in this series where Superman actually feels like Superman not even in the site again just we didn't had to like pull some shit out of his ass and be like oh I gotta like come up with something to make him a hero Tony want to hear my favorite line of the movie and this is unironically I think this movie is hilarious and I love it can you guess what it is what is it it's it's the it's the worst scene in the movie Superman picks up Batman who's a complete bitch and he pulls him in he goes tell me do you bleed and he's got the fake mom but I love that he said that why and then he throws it speaking of Batman sorry I can't he's on the ground what the fuck was we didn't think he's like those are the birds I view of Batman like Peter griffin-ing out in the grass uh okay that was fun so bad no uh did you like uh Ben Affleck just changing size and hairstyle between shots noticeably heavier because he was going through like a divorce and drinking and like he has like the meat sweats he's like where's Aquaman I need to talk to Aquaman Jason Momoe who's clearly in front of a green screen oh god you try to like match the setting at all it's basically you have Zach Snyder's like beautiful vista shot and then it cuts to Joss Whedon who put like a matte painting of a sun that he drew and an umbrella behind Momoa he's like how do you like it now bro he changed the whole coloring of the end of the movie it's great it has a red sky people give him shit for including the Russian family but I kind of that was terrible that was terrible no but then the problem is it's like no one was really I guess the world was in danger but I'm just like I mean they're just kind of fighting in an empty ground like okay yeah like why is that Joss Whedon solution one single like family when he then establishes later that Superman's carrying a whole building of people did they just have no money left for Whedon to to get a crowd together for a couple days shoot uh yeah I like again if I was five and put it on it's colorful it'll keep my attention it's not a good movie although I did have some fun with it but yeah that's where I was at I was like well this is uh dumb disposable crap but you have Wonder Woman you got Batman you got you know like some stupid emo cyborg which again like you said Zach Snyder doesn't seem to care about these actual characters at all yeah uh because cyborg from what I know is is a little bit more fun than he is in this film oh dude that actor so that actor jumped on the hating Joss Whedon thing and he's been clashing with Warner Brothers and whatnot and maybe a lot of his uh criticism his uh complaints are legitimate sure but he genuinely like was upset that he was forced to say booyah in like reshoots but look I'm not the biggest like yeah I'm not the biggest Teen Titans guy but I'm pretty sure that is his catchphrase so it's like well I get why they put that in there there's probably kids who watch the show and they want to see you say the same name yeah he says it in both versions of the Teen Titans cartoon yeah I mean I like them both I guess I don't really care about the I like them both they're both fun but uh yeah so you have that version just uh you know whatever pulpy garbage of course I understand why people hate this movie because you have on the other side of things Marvel who's at this point in time knocking it out of the park they're making Avengers 2 or whatever is going on over there no at this point this is like Infinity War is this Infinity War okay so they're like they're like at their peak over there and this movie should have been more grand than the Avengers I mean we have the we have the OG awesome Superman Batman Wonder Woman these and the flash these are the most popular characters Iron Man was nothing back in the day I mean he was like a like a third string character that people kind of knew about but not really everybody knows Superman like like in the 60s I think a lot of those characters were big but then like Spider-Man kind of overshadowed there anyone like that's the thing like whoever had a popular cartoon in the 90s ended up being the biggest Iron Man didn't have a cartoon but I think on the last one season yeah Spider-Man and X-Men kind of overshadowed the rest of the Marvel universe yeah so you go from that which I can totally see and even I thought like man this is this is embarrassing that this is what we got out of this thing yeah but fast forward many years and we have Zack Snyder's Oppenheimer as Batman sort of Justice Elite real quick about this one even as a black and white version of the movie it's an aspect ratio which drives me up a wall I'm sure that would look cool in IMAX but everyone was watching this door and fucking lockdown they weren't seeing this in IMAX I don't think it went to theaters no was an HBO Max exclusive maybe it's I'm sure it's screened at some things okay also wait hang on one more thing on that yeah the whole point was that so that could like finish his masterpiece or whatever and get all these movies to be a cohesive whatever why why now put one of them in four by three aspect ratio out of nowhere like you're already messing with your own continuity yeah stupid well that's the thing so this everyone was like oh they have the Snyder cut it exists it exists they're like no it didn't really exist I mean obviously there was footage shot but at the end of the day I think they had to give them like 20 million dollars to finish this and the only reason they were like 30 million but what it doesn't matter yeah by the way the only reason this got made was because it was like COVID and they couldn't do like other things they're like well we have this kind of already finished movie um figured it would be a good way to get people to jump on the HBO Max and to get those subscriber numbers and this isn't what would have come out in theaters had things gone to plan no no no yeah uh because Superman did have a blue suit in the the the filming uh they digitally colored it to be black for the Snyder cut version so I think they were like look do whatever you want with this version just get it done uh I do think this is a better version of the movie but in the way it feels like it's cheating because it had like six hours to tell its story yeah I'm like yeah I guess but like if this had been like a real movie with a standard running time it probably would have ended up being real shitty um it would have pissed off a whole lot of audience members too I mean CBS was already very divisive yeah this movie it's just not made for anyone except for really big fans of what Snyder does it's the best of the ones he did he finally started to kind of get it and the characters I agree other than other than Superman uh well no I actually disagree I think Man of Steel is far better than this but I agree with you that this is as far as characters go it does seem like he was kind of pulling things in a good direction yeah and I'm sure like like Barry being like funny that I'm sure that was like a studio thing like can you like like can he be like kind of light and cheery sure um but it's way too long yeah obviously uh it's too much slow motion which really extends the uh the runtime flash sequence with the hot dogs what and then thinking on that I get that it was COVID but oh my god the green screens in this when they green screens uh Lex Luthor in the ship in the beginning and it's just like a weird feather effect to make it look like he's in the water I'm like this is bad like I have done more convincing composites yeah that was terrible but there's some awful CGI and and again another fantastic example of Snyder just undercutting what he does in the previous scene the end of the movie solid the the first ending the one that probably would have ended at the theater where they're all standing on top of the dam or whatever that is looking out um or the Chernobyl tower whatever that thing is the tower or whatever and um you have that stoic pose it fades to black and then meanwhile that that there's like 20 more minutes of absolute uncut garbage I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that that post apocalyptic scene with Jared Leto talking about a reach around Batman for some reason still dressed up as Batman when there's like eight people left they know it's you dude I guess it's because it's armor but it's like why aren't you wearing the metal armor for your head at least like um and uh and let Mira Mira has a thick British accent which I think she was supposed to and then they changed it for the theatrical cut and the Aquaman movie but then for this she's back to having right but that's what I mean this was clearly shot as other movies Ezra Miller shot his stuff over a zoom call so his face looks like it's 720p on like a 4k body oh my god it's so bad like again we're never going to see what the real movie would have been because then we got a chopped up movie by another guy and then we have a movie coming out way too late when the director is clearly full of spite and he's just doing stuff to pat it out and be as annoying as possible yeah yeah why would he sequel bait when he knew damn well he would never come back for another one I don't get this guy because he seems like a genuinely cool dude in the interviews and stuff he seems like he's got you know a good head on his shoulders but then he pulls this shit constantly for his fans so Rebel Moon comes out and he's already undercutting his old movie and saying he has a much better version of it that's rated is there a better version of is there a better version of army of the dead because that movie fucking sucks that movie is fucking terrible I didn't even bother with the dumb prequel no I didn't either well this army of dead was a prequel but uh the prequel of the prequel I know you mean the case the the safecracker yeah yeah that was fucking stupid and I loved out of the dead I loved out of the dead and I love 300 and that's about it for Snyder I was a Snyder guy but I gave him so many passes and tried so hard but after a sucker punch and after the stupid army of dead and after this horrendous Rebel Moon that I watched thankfully I saw the iron claw which brought me back to cinema again I'm like oh my god I forgot to put that on the list I really wanted to watch that but I'll do that you got it's it's a fantastic movie it's one of my favorites of the year I was great yeah like look Zach Snyder Justice League out of the Zach Snyder stuff it's his best yeah I guess um I think that skills is best but it's the only one I've like willingly watched again because I had to like I had to watch it all in one sitting for a review at the time I really get to digest it so then I watched it in segments afterwards uh and there was there's some really actually really good moments in it it's a shame it's preceded by two terrible films that he made but there's some really good moments in it but yeah I have I have both Justice Leagues at a D for me my favorite is when my favorite moment of it that he uh that he got to extend was one Wonder Woman stopped those bad guys at the beginning of the uh like the priceless old school building that's probably been there for hundreds of years and and then she fucking eviscerates the structure of the building and if you just get this like Looney Tunes hat of the villain floating down on a police car I'm I'm fine with Wonder Woman kind of killing but it's not the killing it's the destroying of yeah that's the thing of like she needs a better reason to do that level of destruction for that type of enemy like you clearly already had that guy beat it's already dead to right the fucking building oh weird I love it and then the little girl's like can I be like you instead of be like oh my god a man just died yeah yeah he's like sure here's a gun thank you like hey Wonder Woman I have like tinnitus because that explosion was so loud what did you say some of that rubble fell on my child as I was pushing them by all right you're putting both of these at a D yeah I think that's fair yeah I think that's because I don't hate watching them but they're also for me they're just not whatever that movie was going to be I don't ever want to watch either of them again so that's the that's I'll probably never watch either of them again so does it hurt does it kill you right now that Man of Steel is above them or are you gonna be okay with the I mean I mean I'll if you want it there I will concede I don't agree but I will okay the ride's not over yet we have Aquaman yeah my man here's a movie I really didn't think I was gonna like I'm not the biggest James Wan fan like his horror movies I'm not super into them I really didn't like the casting of Jason Momoa at the time he was in a lot of movies that I hate it mostly the Conan the Barbarian remake which was awful so I wasn't excited for that I didn't like that it was in this universe and then I went and saw the movie because I actually really like Aquaman I like kind of the more like mythological lore that they build like the 2000s and I guess I've gone since then I really like this movie really like it I really enjoy it I really enjoyed the fun atmosphere I really like the he-man toy looking costume design I like here's the problem I will agree I know what you're gonna say I will agree the movie is way too long two hours and 24 minutes long yes but I think we talked about this before yeah I think they thought it was gonna be the only aquaman movie so they put everything into it and again I do think that feeling gets overstuffed but at the same time I liked Ocean Master in it I liked Black Manta I did not like Black Manta was so stupid like I'm gonna give my revenge let me put this giant novelty helmet on and shoot a laser out of my face yeah that's Black Manta that's what he does that's what he does he's gotta be a better way to get him to put a I feel like I like that for causing a radiation suit on his head and I really I like that it really embraced a lot of the Aquaman lore he even had the fucking octopus playing drums that is that was fine um and also like I hated Aquaman's costume in the Justice League movie I'm like oh this sucks they went like that's so bad and then I saw the trailer of him wearing like the legit costume yeah like all these costumes feel like they're right out of the comics yeah the only thing that's funny is costume the only thing that's funny is that in the comics Ocean Master looks like Jason Momoa and Aquaman looks like the guy who plays Ocean Master but they like switched it for the movie yeah yeah yeah of course um but yeah Nicole Kimmon looked pretty good in it I mean she was she was good in it I mean her face was definitely airbrushed it was noticeable but it was awesome though that first fight scene yeah James Wan are right I like you I like the look of Atlantis and everything I really really enjoyed this movie I really liked it it's got it's got some I mean we've said this it's got some really cool moments the things you pointed out some fantastic action scenes Jason Momoa was having a ball Mira looks good there's some okay chemistry there the whole pit bull rays of Africa desert road trip should have been cut entirely because that was interesting there's some bizarre moments mom living with like crustacean armor in this weird that was cool that was pretty humorous um but yeah overall there's a shot in the movie that kind of like triggers me I don't know why it really it's such an ugly shot in the movie bothers me and it's in all the trailers and it's when Aquaman's fighting his brother and they show the crowd and there's this Chad guy in the crowd that goes yeah and it looks really fake almost CG and I hate it I hate it so much but outside of that yeah I'm willing to go so I'm willing to go to see on this I have this in a so that okay and a for for Aquaman yeah I have an a as someone who really likes this someone who really likes this character and got to see the things I thought I'd never see on screen looking the way I wanted them and being a mostly okay movie I'm giving it a by the way did you know that the big monster that talks to Aquaman is Mary Poppins I don't know what that means you know you know how like he goes to find the dead I know what you're talking about but go on you baited me no like literally the voice of that monster is the actress who plays Mary Poppins that's the weirdest bit of trivia like the original yeah it's truly it's Julie Andrews Julie Andrews is the voice of that big tentacle that's so bizarre okay well it is funny when you see when like some of these people show up dcu dcu actually has a lot of oscar winners and stuff that just have these tiny bit rolls it's just hilarious I saw that Gary Oldman recently came out in some interview and he said um because he's in dark night but he said uh uh dark night and harry potter saved his life because he was able to just cash those super easy paychecks like for like a week of work and then he got to be home with his family like okay all right yeah uh the residuals are probably nice too but it's funny everything like not to be morbid but like if Julie Andrews ever dies you know there's gonna be a year at the Oscars where they do an immemorial and they're gonna show like her and the sound of music her and Mary Poppins do you think toward the end of the toward the end of the montage it'll be the big squid monster with Jason Momoa writing and they'll do what hollywood does now where they take one of the song classic songs they do like a somber version of it so yeah and a spoonful of shaka it makes the medicine go out No, Aquaman was a lot of fun and like they did change the race of the character to be Samoan and I like that they actually worked that into the film like he's doing like the haka and what not yeah that was that was really important for me that they they tied that into Aquaman I mean why not why not like when it comes to really changing races and stuff like that this is what I'm kind of on board with I can kind of see it I just can't in any good conscience give this an A I can go I can meet you at a B can you I will I know Adam our friendship's over no I'll be fine with a B all right it kills me that this is higher than man of steel but your list isn't on the screen you gotta put it on there people think you're lying oh okay okay there we go it's up there I put it up there look at it's there all right next up on the list is Shazam yeah Shazam from my hometown Philly even though it doesn't really look like Philly other than the art museum but yeah never saw an episode of Chuck I heard that show was good I didn't watch it Levy or Levi he's he's throwing shade at the newest stuff going on with James Gunn how he's gonna bitter it sounds like I don't know if he's bitter with him or with just the whole situation which is fair I guess but uh he kind of sucked in the second one anyways so I'm not that I'm not that upset about it um I really like Shazam I like Shazam too yeah not too I like Shazam also who is mediocre it's whatever no Shazam Shazam is another character well Captain Marvel um that uh I've read a bunch of his books and uh yeah back in the day he used to actually outsell Superman yeah there there is an alternate reality where like Shazam comics are the more popular ones but because his character got tied up in like legal rights issues and whatnot okay uh he kind of went away for a while it's kind of people say the same thing with like the shadow would be bigger than Batman if he wasn't tied up in like weird rights issues I don't know about that but okay if you're not allowed to make a comic how could you compete with the other one oh well that's true that's fair okay that's fair it's kind of like how uh EA Sports has the rights to the NFL for video games so no other so any other football game is like this is the the cooks instead of the chefs the chiefs it's it's like three three removed the chiefs the the cooks but no Shazam was a fun it's basically like it's kind of like a remake a big almost uh it was fun movie about like finding your family even if it's not your real family yeah this much like Aquaman really embraced like the Shazam look like he does look kind of goofy but that is how Shazam looks uh they have uh Dr. Savannah he is wearing this comic outfit but he has a coat over it but uh yeah overall I really really enjoyed this film even though again it takes place in Philadelphia and it looks nothing like Philadelphia I um not to be the dead hooker but uh that's the expression right not to be the dead horse yes the yeah the movie's two hours and ten minutes long um I'm just I'm just old-fashioned you know I like I like repeatedly watching films and I don't want to see through any of these movies because they're so fucking long two two hours and ten minutes for a Shazam movie give me 90 minutes or give me nothing but I do this kind of flew by for me I do enjoy this movie I again I don't know watch it again because it's such a commitment but um yeah I could go I could I think this is better than Aquaman personally because it's just it moves a little faster I think it's way more consistent from a tone it visually looks equal throughout it's even it's not like Aquaman Aquaman where sometimes it's just horrendous CG another time like this this one's fun I like the the kids are all not annoying which is a plus yeah it's it does you know what I said it's totally consistent but that's not entirely true there is that one scene that goes really dark out of nowhere there's that board scene with the board yeah holy shit and then the villain comes in it's like then everybody's ripped to pieces there's blood everywhere um yeah I was it's consistent I was annoyed that Dr. Savannah wasn't tiny with like dangly teeth uh but I love that like they had other characters from the Shazam you like when they're going through the doors in the rock of eternity yeah and they open up a door with the alligator people like oh shit I didn't expect to see the alligator people this and they it's I'm so mad they'll never do it now but that little caterpillar um I think his name is Mr. Mine or Dr. Mine that's like what is Shazam's ultimate villains okay they're one of my favorite comics ever that thing like turns into a monster that eats realities I know it looks stupid because it looks like a little stupid caterpillar um I mean into across the spiderverse managed to make spotman or whatever his name oh yeah this spot like they made him an awesome villain so I could I could believe a caterpillar could be threatening at some point yeah Mr. Mine that Mr. Mine that was the name um yeah I like again I like that they have the statues with the the the seven deadly sins I I like that it was true to the lore I think it took more from the new 52 Shazam which I didn't read but I was aware of okay uh but overall again I really really liked it um other than it not looking like Philadelphia at all I will put I'll put this at a B with you you can do B I mean I have it in A but you sure throw it out at me I guess this is of the DCEU isn't it um no I'm kind of grazing over this list god it feels it feels almost heartbreaking to put Shazam in an A I feel that that's like putting an Ant-Man movie at an A but you know what I'll do it I'll go A for Shazam okay a little engine that could it was fun it was like one of the like the most fun like a fun origin story in this franchise I agree and you know what there was especially the first movie it did have some really good emotional heart to it I feel bad for a little Billy Baxter or whatever the hell his name was Bastion Billy Batson Billy Batson yeah Billy Batson I felt bad for the little shit his mom trash left him his dad was out of the picture yeah I'm with you and I like the adoption the adoption agency that the couple was great the kids were all great and it had that fun Henry Cavill crotch I was I was upset we never got talky tawny if you notice in the movie he's always wearing like this little tiger emblem there's a character in the Shazam comics called talky tawny he's just the guy with a tiger head he's pretty awesome I can't say that I love that they made all the siblings shazams by the end of the first movie it felt like something that should have happened later yeah well I think that's um so there was always Mary Marvel and Captain Marvel Jr the the girl and the blue one who turns an Adam Brody but all the other brothers and sisters I think they're from like the newer comics that I didn't read so I think they're just taking from whatever that new reboot was all right um yeah and like there were seven deadly sins I think there were seven of them so it kind of made sense there and I like yeah of course seven deadly sins and all that yeah I like the Digimon Hanzu as the wizard Shazam he was also a fish guy in Aquaman he's pulling double duty in this franchise the poor one out right he he passed away didn't he no oh I thought he did no maybe I maybe I'm thinking of someone else I think of someone else no Digimon Hanzu was in Rebel Moon I think I know but they filmed that a long time ago I'm pretty sure are you thinking of Lance Reddick I don't know who Lance I don't think so the guy from like the John Wick movies uh maybe let me look him up Lance Reddick it's still alive and I'm probably butchering that name did Lance Reddick die yeah Lance Reddick died oh shit maybe that is who I was thinking of I think we talked about in our when we did John Wick 4 I'm like it was sad seeing him die in the movie because he died in real life oh oh yeah yeah yeah I just got the actress screwed up because you know they're they're both black so obviously well obviously that's what's gonna happen um oh wait Adam you're screaming right now you said that on stream oh my god oh my god oh my god no I actually thought it was the same guy okay well that's too bad uh let's give this one oh no we're on Birds of Prey oh god this movie I was very nice when this movie came out I tried watching it again not that long ago with my family it's it's not great I work great this is another one I didn't expect myself to like and then I ended up really liking it really liking it have you seen it again I do have some issues though I do have some issues though I don't like that they marketed it as a Birds of Prey movie I'm like not really like I know the Birds of Prey are in there uh but like not really like it should have just been called Harley Quinn why would you call it Birds of Prey oh it's called this is the worst title of movie I've ever seen I mean it's like Harley Quinn in the fantabulous something something else and that was just like like I was fine with them doing a Harley Quinn movie it's weird that they grouped her in with the Birds of Prey because as far as I know like I haven't read like regular like mainstream comics for like years but back when I was reading like Harley Quinn was in the Suicide Squad and like with the Joker and all this other stuff I don't remember her like being in the Birds of Prey or being like friends with them that was weird they didn't do a movie about like her Poison Ivy and Catwoman like the Gotham City Sirens or something um but yeah I went into it with an open mind and I actually had a lot of fun with it uh I like that they tried as hard as they could to uh like desexualize Margot Robbie they put her in basically garbage bags for clothes I don't know what that was about then again she was depressed going through a breakup so I know this is just funny like the ugliest outfits I've ever seen anyone wear um I don't mind I don't mind the movie I like the movie enough again it's just my second watching with the with my kids is like oh this is kind of chore to get through the second half is not good yeah the first half is solid but when they get to that freaking funhouse place it seriously looked like Batman and Robin yeah well that was the weird thing because like the Joker does have a lot of out like uh places like that in the comics and that does feel very jokery like so that would in my mind that makes sense for a location for them but this Joker that we've been introduced to acts like a pimp in nightclubs I'm like wait he also has like a rundown carnival like I feel like I don't I'm not even talking about from the aspect of does it make sense within the universe that's a whole other thing I just how it was filmed how the the choreography was during the fight it seems so different than the earlier stuff which was so much slicker and it was clear that the John Wick guys had helped out on those earlier things because they just looked wait that fight where she gets the cocaine in her face and goes all cocaine bear that part is fantastic I like what she's like rollerblading like knocking those guys out in the cars at the beginning like it was a really funny movie it's like the the weird thing is like people are asking me what I thought of it I'm like well it has it's better than a sequel to Suicide Squad has any right to be like it really did not need to be as good as it was um I love Mary Elizabeth Winstead uh I love that woman she was Huntress in it I like her normally I don't know I mean I love her just in general yeah I do too I didn't she didn't really do anything for me in the film I would like to see her as Huntress like had that continued yeah but I mean think her got her backstory right but then I do actually no I did think it was pretty funny where she kills Zazz and she's like all right that was all my revenge I don't care about anything else is she like tries to leave the movie she's kind of forced along into it black canary I didn't enjoy it all no she was lame most most of the sidekicks kind of sucked Harley Quinn it was the show there the villain was weird because he was kind of flamboyant and really threatening but there was a weird half he felt very goofy he was like hey it was a weird version of Black Mask I wasn't used to him being like that and it's weird that they killed him too by the way I think I I think in the theater at the end when all the shit's going crazy I'm like okay I feel like Batman should be here for this there's a lot there's a lot going on and got them and whole army is that a carnival I feel like this would be on Batman's radar it should probably be that's why you need to line a dialogue where it's like Batman and the Justice League are fighting someone over here meanwhile at the Justice League yeah this also has a freaking out of left field scene that is so much harder than oh else in the film where he like embarrasses the girl like humiliates the girl with everyone yeah that was a little weird well no when he cuts the face off of that person oh yeah that is just like that scene was like out of a human centipede film he's got the family hanging upside down I think there's a kid too yeah they were gonna spare her and then they decide not like holy shit this is hard what are we doing here and then and then it's back to kind of like fighting in a Batman and Robin fun house yeah like I get like anyone wouldn't like the movie but overall I'm like I don't know it was just more fun than it had any right to be uh I actually kind of wish because the movie was so much about how the Joker sucks I actually wouldn't have mind if Charity let it was in the movie and they just kind of shit on him like that would be good if it was a punch line for that character that would have been great um because it is in continuity she sees the picture of uh what Captain Boomerang calls it out um but yeah I I really like it where do I have it I think I have I think I have it's actually the only one in my B column I would say it's a C for me but I could go be with it I don't care that much about this film I have seen it twice now so that's more than I've seen most of these again I would watch it again I had but it's only the birds of prey not really being like well I figured out fully I'm gonna call that anymore I don't think isn't it like the emancipation of one I think well that was the original I think they ended up just changing it to Harley Quinn birds of prey or something oh yeah Harley Quinn okay yeah you're right all right yeah whatever whatever yep we put it at a B this is a terrible terrible ranking like no one's happy with this it it's it's no one is happy all right now we have a movie that I think everyone will universally agree is S tier and that's 184 oh that roller coaster is going all the way down to F this was a COVID film it made me feel like I had COVID when I watched it because they started filming before COVID I'm saying it came out during COVID we saw everyone saw this at home this was a whole release it was a big deal my daughter who just a year or two back who was a super big Wonder Woman fan from the movie disowned her she walked away halfway through this film instead of sucked and she has never talked about Wonder Woman again since again my god daughter loved the first one love Justice League and I was like hey so we went over to her house we put it on she loved the Harley Quinn movie too okay we put it on her younger sisters were excited to see who this Wonder Woman person was they hadn't seen the first movie and we're like yeah let's watch it and by the end we were like me my god daughter we're kind of just like trying to convince her younger sisters like no trust us the first one was really good I know this one isn't very good but the first one was really good it's so weird that I was excited for this one off the back of the first one I love the trailer because I love a Wonder Woman whips out the uh gold armor the gold armor I'm like cool can't wait to see what that's like oh my god it's bad Maxwell lord was totally wasted I like know her golden armor by the way it's just in the corner of her broom closet it's piled in the back it's got like mailboxes etc wrapping paper on it she's like oh I was going to sell this on on ebay why don't I tell you the backstory really quickly oh they definitely not going to get used later in this film and then you find out who it belonged to at the very end of the movie which is so stupid this movie was so bad I cannot believe Patty Jenkins wrote okay didn't think maybe not the best look for the one female superhero in your movie to have guy problems and not only that she's sulking about a dude that she met wait what 40s 50s 60s it's been like 40 years it's no not the 40s it was World War one that was World War one yeah oh my god so she's been sulking for six decades over this guy it's ridiculous and uh not only that she just straight up rapes a guy that's uh technically yes I don't know why the wish worked out that way where it's like he'll be back but it'll be in another guy's body like what the fuck is that where's the other guy out right now is he just in limbo is he has a get out world he's in a black space I don't know and then Maxwell lord who is like one of the coolest like villains in the DC comic like when it comes to like there was like a period where he was like the manager for the justice league and then he ended up being a bad guy wonder woman actually kills him spins his head backwards and it leads into this amazing like uh big world ending event where it actually caused the reboot of DC one of the many wow uh and then here he's just kind of a con man but she and his name is her but she defeated him cool in this movie too she was like cal l no and she has the last so yeah she does we love you we're all friend the whole thing about like truth and then he goes and hugs his son like what the fuck is this everybody's renounce your wish every single person renounce their wish on planet earth so so beginning back to writing yeah this is written by oh let me bring it up like you said patty jankins and uh sex and i uh no no i just want to make sure i get this right sorry um i thought it was just a pj joined there was no okay no no no written by uh patty jankins and jeff johns now look jeff johns is a comic book writer he's written a lot of amazing comics especially in the dc universe okay hasn't really written many films scripts sure uh not really known for writing films uh i don't writer's credit because they took ideas from his comics no he actually worked on the script okay because they're they're they will acknowledge people and they do get royalties for that uh there's actually a problematic guy who left dc and he gets royalties and people get pissed off he's like well they keep using my work so blame them um i might have have him on the show because i love people everyone hates uh hi adam um yeah so so they got patty jankins who really shouldn't be writing this type of movie has she wait has she been a writer hold on okay she wrote monster wrote and directed monster and then this is the second like the charlie's throne movie yeah well that was a great movie she wrote and directed it and then like this is the only major film this is the second major theatrical film she's written and she kind of wrote monster again for this movie they just repurposed the script gal Gadot's like disheveled halfway through she's crying in the corner constantly she's turning tricks on the streets yeah they got rid of her like shield and sword which i get wonder woman doesn't really have yeah wonder woman doesn't really have that too much in the comics that's another special occasion thing but while you establish it's so hard you know like yeah this was a big this was a full plot point in the last wonder woman movie she goes to get the sword it's this big moment i yeah what a what a mess and she's throwing her dumb tiara all over the place yeah i mean really hilarious i would normally like but yeah just it nothing works in this film wonder woman is unlikable uh chris pine i liked him in the first one but he's kind of weirdly used here well he's an ass like he has no problem that he's just in the body of some other guy to know yeah like dude come on yeah it's not even like he's like hey this is wrong you should stop this he's like oh look at that garbage can is that artwork uh and yeah i just really have a problem max well lord so what is it he wishes that he was the wishing stone he becomes the wishing stone yep he's like genie lamp so he can grant wishes and become more powerful but what's his end goal i don't off it i don't i don't know because he's bleeding every time he does this yeah can he not just tell someone to wish for him to not be this anymore i mean i feel like there's a loophole somewhere i don't know how the wishing stone works okay can you wish that i no longer am a wishing stone thank you and then you have christin wig yeah it was like i wish that i her character arc is literally selena kyle for batman returns yeah it's like it's again it's the she's all that thing where she's yeah like frumpy which i thought a woman writing this would go against those stereotypes but i guess not that's what's perplexing about it all yeah that's the weird thing and i get jeff johns he works in a lot of stuff from the comics because he knows them well but like this isn't a good script like they showed the game in the beginning that all the amazonians are playing that's like a big part of wonder woman's backstory that was left out of the first film and they made it work they made that origin work without that part but they couldn't help themselves like nope all those characters are dead but we want those actresses back so let's just do this weird flashback about learning responsibility that was weird on multiple levels first off wonder woman's diana's competing when she is what 10 i don't know how old she is here but she's going up against these like top of the line amazonian women and so what she takes a shortcut and still wins was there something in the rules that she couldn't cut through the grass she still accomplished the goals yeah i didn't understand it i just thought okay this is a kid who was smart on her feet and was able to figure out how to kind of like circumvent this and and they're just like bitching her out it didn't make any sense yeah this one was rough to get through i think i've only ever watched it once and then yeah so christin wagan wants to be stronger and then she's like i want to be in somehow she gets two wishes she's like i want to be an apex predator and then he's like sure did you mean you want it to be a cheetah woman that's the best is how do how come she gets two wishes can everybody have as many as they want because i don't know next well lord can just turn to his son and say son i don't want to be a wishing stone anymore can you just say dad like you're a regular man again that's my wish or you know turn to someone it's not hard still don't understand the broadcast how he's physically touching people through the broadcast like what this is so bad this is so bad we gotta move on this movie's trash okay yeah and it's made worse because the first one was so good and it's not just stepped down yep yeah it was kind of like for me when i went from x-men 2 to x-men 3 it's just such a huge departure like no this is like this is like x-men 2 to x-men origins wolverine fair fair okay the suicide squad i really like this movie shocker it's james gunn i'm a big james gun fan i like i pretty much like all of his movies he gets me he gets my immature humor but he also gets how to write characters that are despicable in charming lovable ways he knows how to direct great action he knows how to keep drama in play and make you feel for cg monsters in a way that no other director does i like that he kind of used a different style in this movie than he did and pretty much anything else he's ever done it had a very gritty look to it it was dirty and grimy but it was also pretty visceral how he's moving that camera around and being a lot more free with it i i really don't have a negative on this movie i think harley quinn's the best she's ever been here i love her look i love how she fights um she felt like a threat in a fun way and of course king shark is just just perfect still on his king shark still alone uh yeah king shark is one of those things where like it depends on the version of the character sometimes he can talk sometimes he is kind of dumb he they wanted to do the hammerhead version uh because in the reboot of suicide squad they picked him as a hammerhead shark but apparently like the eyeline was just weird with him looking at characters i love the look they got i think he's hilarious um i do like the king shark and me harley garland cartoon um he's good too i really really like this movie i love that like the beginning actually is like show you what the suicide squad is meant for like the one guy goes to leave his head blows up like i when i heard pete davidson was in the film i was like i hate him i think most people died a little inside upon hearing oh my god when he got shot in the face i was like i gotta rewind that that's amazing james gunn gets me yeah um yeah and again i didn't like though that they killed off nathan phillion so early i love nathan phillion that's a catchable kid i like that they killed cat to boomerang because it was very obvious i mean he is a major flash villain i think they like cut his freaking head off they like split his face off oh no um a helicopter like crashes in like a bunch of like tree bark splinters oh that's right there's an explosion but i think they realize like you know like i don't think flash will ever get a sequel uh or maybe the movie won't come out so let's just kill captain boomerang i don't think they had that one scene in the first suicide squad they're like you know what that's all we're gonna get from captain boomerang in the flash let's just fucking kill him well it was great about this is he's so effortlessly establishes that viola davis's character mandawaller isn't a total dipshit like she was in the first movie yeah she's like i'm gonna steal the genie bottle and then i'm gonna open it and oh the enchantress turned on us instantly yeah what an idiot in this one she has a decoy suicide squad that's i have a great is to just die and like move all the troops off of the main ones which include peacemaker yeah john scene is fantastic as which i love that's a character that i didn't even really know existed oh man he's uh he has since like now he's in mortal combat he's like really blew up i love that they did blood uh what was the name bloodsport idris elba again another character i really didn't know about in the comics but i think they put him in this just to be the anti deadshot like he's deadshot but actually the thing is he actually does trick shots stuff but like they try to the beginning it makes you feel like it's going to be like him and his daughter from the first movie but then they actually just hate each other yeah they're all like he really is the reverse deadshot that's fucking hilarious oh my god that andy and when he puts that gun together that was so sweet like where was this at before he's like and again and again james god really loves these characters he put fucking staro as the main staro was the first justice staro was awesome that scene where they're watching the old school prompter of the astronauts getting taken over like oh this is good man the thinker the thinker was in i thought it was really really well done there were actual stakes like you said they showed like a bunch of suicide squad members just being killed uh what's his face polka dot man i love i thought the mom joke got a little overplayed by the end but that's like a small little grave just that final one was like okay harley quinn was fun harley quinn was fun it was great i like apparently a tape scene the funny thing is people keep talking about how he'd like he were his plan was to kill the dcu but apparently they told him they're like hey we would like you to keep uh margo robbie and joked in him in but you don't have to you could do whatever you want and he still made it in that universe yes so i feel like if dc said like hey we want to continue this universe he would have done it instead they said you just do whatever you want his brother now is going he's calendar man in this movie uh which i like but now he's going to be playing max lord in the new superman movie wait and james gun's brother's not calendar man in the suicide squad yeah he's calendar man and i'm i'm sorry calendar man's not in the suicide squad you mean the he's he's in the prison in the beginning oh that's i didn't know that was calendar man okay yeah he's got the he's got the weasel he does the motion yeah he's also the weasel but i actually liked him his calendar man i'm like oh i would like to see more of him but apparently he is now going to be playing uh max well lord we're getting rid of the fucking mandalorian for this new reboot uh so i'm excited for that because that's real gun also brings back freaking rick flag out of all the lame characters i know him cool too yeah like was awesome in this yeah um no it was it's a really well made film it's a good time it's they are legit bad guys that's the thing the first movie didn't really want to show them being like bad yeah really like no they're bad guys maybe they're fighting on the side of good right now but they are pretty evil he does he he does the thing that most movies do which is foreshadows but he does it in the like a really solid way with dialogue where you don't even think that it is a foreshadow i can think of three in this movie alone one is the small bullets when they're they're kind of like peacocking about who has the bigger one is like well i have smaller bullets it's like okay that's that's just like a throwaway like jokie thing well that ends up being like a big deal later because it kills or we think it kills peacemaker yeah he's also got the rat catcher two backstory line and how that ends up being the thing that saves the day with her cool device that rats in and that also opens up the storyline about the javelin that harley quinn has been hanging on to this whole oh right thank god i forgot that purpose she stabs it through that part i didn't like the eye stabbing i was against that but it looks so good though yeah i know you have an eye thing hey you don't like the eyes getting touched but i did like i so uh steve aji the big fat nerdy guy he did the motion capture for king shark i thought he was pretty good with the motion capture it's the lone doing the voice for king shark is pretty good too oh yeah so good uh this is s there there are sorry uh there are shark people in aquaman too right i think i saw them in the trailer yeah i wouldn't put much stake into the shark people i if they're in there which i honestly remember there's a lot of stuff in that movie they're very very under oh yeah yeah yeah there's this whole like complete ripoff mo not most cantina there's this whole ripoff job of the hut scene where they go to an underwater bar and they straight up have a job of the hut character laying on like a bed and by like three fish chicks it's just hilarious like what really i i didn't i didn't see yeah i just wanted to know if the shark people made the shark people are basically in that small scene they're just kind of like bodyguard henchmen i think yeah okay cool uh but no yeah this is one of the better ones so i'm going s with this can we go i love i love how suicides god is so terrible and yet the sequels just got better and better like what the hell how did that happen it's remarkable well because they utilize the things that worked which were some of the actors and you know totally suicide squad at some point had something right and they took that yeah all right i put s tier is that fine oh i'm fine with that yeah okay we only have a couple more yeah uh well the power dynamic is shifted or whatever adam we could talk about this but we actually talked about this last year and it's good it's clipped on my second channel so if you don't want to linger on this one to speed it up i will we could just talk everything i said about shazam the opposite this the weird thing is like the rock was a producer on shazam but i think it was only to get this movie made and like they did so much to set him up and then he's like i don't ever want to be with captain marvel it's like well that's you're kind of his bad guy you dumb idiot yeah like stop trying to fight super and you can get there eventually back adams fought pretty much everyone in the justice league but it's like shazam is your bad is your like hero that you fight uh it's terrible it is bad i hated this movie um nothing really worked i if i was a kid i probably would think it was cool but i'm a sad adult who's you know not not into this shit anymore actually adam sorry can i can i show you something a fan sent me please do i just remembered i have it and i'll have it forever one second one second while he's doing whatever he's doing i can only imagine it's something sick and perverse i would just say for the 50 000th of time for people in the back row long movies are great if they're not stupid this was a stupid movie so it needed to be short but black adam is a long movie it's tedious as crap it's got an unlikable child in it that i just i don't understand skateboard nothing is really set up at all for some reason there's an x-men mansion in this film with hawk guy who can somehow go toe to toe with a superman character i just i didn't know how to like attach myself to anything in this it was weird it was just it was just somber and miserable and no nothing it's like like my complaints about like birds of prey not really being worked into like the harley quinn movie well enough the justice society is so shoehorn into this movie just and it done well done poorly um adam's one of my fans really enjoyed our review of black adam okay and he thought that for some reason i really needed a 12 inch statue of the rocks black adam this is the uh the marvel i don't know the mcfarlin i like how you said that he gave me a 12 inch statue of the rocks black adam that sounded highly highly appropriate well look i actually like uh the black adam character and this sucks uh so now i have this wonderful statue of a character i love being ruined by a terrible performance uh yeah isn't this great adam are you i like it i like it maybe someday i'll get you a white adam statue i'll try to get that should this just be the remainder of the video right there wow the it's almost it's almost one to one how he looks like dwayne johnson and the resemblances out of this world please get that off of the screen i have to look at it every day adam how do you think i feel it's just a reminder you wake up in the middle of the night and the box is just there with dwayne johnson's toy eyes hauntedly staring back at you leave me alone dwayne power dynamic is shifted or whatever the line is that he said oh and then that was henry cavill's last appearance rest of peace oh jeez that's right that whole freaking ending we got big plans i got big plans for you brother your video your video being like uh henry cavill's agent was so fucking good that should have been more that should have been a viral video that was hilarious henry cavill's phone just over the course of a decade henry it's sex nighter stewed up we're coming back henry it's it's james gone you're fired this um this movie to me is um barely watchable trash i could go d with it but i'm fine with an f as well oh f yeah throw this baby right in the f tier yeah okay i wasn't sure if the statue kind of maybe made you feel like you had a connection to the character oh no no this movie uh sucked it sucked so bad it was weird too because it's another anti-hero kind of venom stupid sony thing where dwayne johnson just refuses to go all in on a villain character and so he's kind of established as good right away but i'm pretty sure he's supposed to be a villain so dwayne come on like you could have you could have maybe gone for it here and made yourself a villain in this picture yeah but he couldn't nope all right we have shazam two i have gone on record tony yeah by saying that out of all the reviews this year the only one that i regret and know it's not godzilla minus one i stand by what i said this movie i was a little too generous with i watched it with my kids at theaters we thought it was a fun time i've forgotten almost every single thing about it since leaving the theater except for that uh at some point shazam throws a bus at a dragon yeah i also i also hate with every fiber of my being the performance by zakari levy in this movie he's acting like an eight-year-old and he's supposed to be billy still but billy is far more mature at this point it's just there's no connection between these two characters at all anymore i will say uh i enjoy the movie uh more than probably most people but yeah that performance was a little off those two shareable it was to work together a little bit more i like that the wizard shazam uh lived yeah overall overall i actually don't mind the movie i like the evolution of the kids uh getting older i like mary because she's the oldest there's the one scene where she's just like hung over and has this or in the i do like that they decorated the rock of eternity because now it's like they're hanging out that was cool i don't know why she looks like herself though and the other teenagers that are like a year difference in age all have adult bodies still yeah that apparently it was going to just be her in the first film and then they changed it but then also like they're they redesigned all their costumes like their costumes in the first film are pretty accurate and now i think when we reviewed it like her outfit looks like it's made out of like i don't even know some like weird like ball that used to play with in jim uh i think there were a few people playing with their balls when they saw that costume in the second one uh i mean that is a gorgeous woman uh by the way of all the reviews that i clipped from our live episodes i did my thumbnail is literally her the premiere with her dress that are cleavage out and that's the most views out of anything i didn't even use i didn't even use an actual still from the movie why would you this is youtube this is the internet for dignity please to die but again you know philly represent they went to linkin financial field which i haven't been to in like 16 or 17 years because i don't watch baseball but yeah you know i gotta represent philly adam yeah i put this at sea i put this at sea i so based on i haven't watched my review again i maybe i was very nice i don't honestly remember um i probably would have put this at a b based on what i think i said about it but after like sitting with it over the year and just never really having any desire to watch it again i probably moved down to a d but i could go see with you i have no problem going see because i do like i do like the characters the family still there yeah the wonder woman stuff was horrible uh especially and she had a bearded face that was that was just bizarre that was a funny dream sequence i didn't like that it was it was awkward i'll say that much it was awkward for me because i was kind of into it and then i saw the face i'm like oh my god what's happening oh let's go see with this one yeah i'm i'm fine with sea right next to man of steel all right i don't know if we agree on this one or not i can't remember i think we do but the flash james gunn said it's one of the greatest superhero films ever made and he hasn't said anything since james guns probably maybe doing some bad marketing for it but um i like this movie i've seen it twice i understand all the criticisms believe me they're there the the effects work is hilariously bad uh it's right for making fun of for sure the babies are horrific it's hilarious how bad they are but i thought that ezra miller's character this time around was was just he charmed me i thought he was great i or he or they whatever they whatever i i'm sorry it's not gonna happen ezra miller wow perfectly good performance from a person who has never once impressed me in the slightest did a good job here uh the cameos were cringe at the end but i i i did like the cloney one of the way and i thought that was funny as hell but again that was funny my kids didn't understand that my kids both really enjoyed the movie as well they didn't see it in theaters i watched it with them at home my daughter's completely burnt out she doesn't give a shit about superhero films and she was on board with this one connor dug it great action good spectacle yeah i'm i'm fine with this film and i like like ketan ketan was one of the few exceptions where they didn't bring the old dog back and then completely kill off his back story and make him some like alcoholic deadbeat dad well he was drinking and depressed but they made a good point to be like gotham doesn't need batman it's like pretty safe now it's not like he just gave up he had the like he had the like mission accomplished banner up in the house yeah although there oh so there was a deleted scene where uh they talk about how like he accidentally got a kid killed oh uh something he did led to the death of a kid uh and that's kind of why he like kind of but it wasn't like he just abandoned gotham and it died it was kind of the sergeant powell scene i shot a kid oh yeah he had one of those toy guns it was kind of like that i my one issue is this like we never really got to see gotham uh the tim burton gotham which is funny we joked about in our commentary track i like how the batman returns cave looks completely different than the first movie yeah and then this movie it's the same mansion in cave from the first film so it's like either bruce wade has two mansions with two caves or he's like you know what i didn't like that remodel we're doing it all again we're switching it back alfred do you imagine like the like stereotypical new yorkers like hey we're walking here we just fixed the cave up now you want us to put it back come on um but you're right uh the cgi in the beginning in the end is terrible yeah uh very clunky in the beginning very clunky at the end and then there is awkward shots like the two berries look really really good for most of the movie and then there's like literally shots where one of them will be so smooth because it'll probably it was probably like a last minute one that they did uh but yeah i it was okay i enjoyed it for what it was it's not what i would have done with the flash i feel weird that my childhood batman died in a scene from a film that i hate i don't know how i feel about that i would prefer that not that i'm even like the biggest fan of those films anymore because they are pretty flawed but like i'd prefer michael keaton's batman not die in a scene from the worst superman movie ever made but you know whatever what are you gonna do yeah yeah that's true also his death feels weird because we all knew he was coming back for another film yeah and then they reshot it and changed it so his death is just kind of awkward now it doesn't make me feel sad or anything well he dies like 50 times too doesn't he they just keep yeah that's over but then there's like the definitive death and i'm like yeah but i don't really care because i knew he was coming back it just feels weird uh i hear you it's a wild ride for sure seeing niggas cage fighting a spider uh that was that was going to be in the niggas cage superman movie yeah i know why but it's just it's so at batman it wasn't too bad it was it was weird that they finally gave ben athlec like a modern batman the blue look but then they put armor all over the suit that that scene was i thought that was fantastic that whole opening action scene was like surfing on the like spider man on the ground and yeah that was great i just don't know why they put armor over like no i want to see like the blue and gray suit why are you putting all this weird armor in front of it and then that poor gal gadot with her wonder woman cameos every time hi i'm here okay bye she was late she was late because she was bringing shizan back to life this is hilarious it's like every time she shows up that music oh we even talk about that at the snider cut holy oh oh no her music in this snider cut was the worst that the chanting every single time she's hailing a cab okay i want to put this at a b but i'm guessing you will not go b i i put it at a c it's for barry okay uh also we were joking in our commentary like the michael keaton in this does like moves and stuff that the young michael keaton couldn't ever have been around it's awesome yeah i'm like i'm like oh wow he really figured out that neck problem on his suit yeah they did the full body turns every bad man has these hilarious stories and the michael uh was a christian bale couldn't breathe out of his so he's like open mouth the whole time where's rachel where's don't don't lie to me swear to me you know adam west really had the best nice breezy costume to the bad plane oh man oh robin didn't have it the best in those in those ones robin robin didn't have it the best we have blue beetle tony your favorite superhero movie again i thought james gunne said he's the first like dc character in this new timeline but people are saying it's james gunne james gunne's just uh maybe going a little too fast and loose with some of the stuff he says on on twitter yeah um well adam i know you love this film uh we reviewed it together uh you know but throw it up in that s tier i'm surprised you didn't wear the suit for this one that wonderful yeah you know what the suit is in uh when i'm not wearing the suit it's up in connor's closet because connor connor digs the suit he's never seen the movie he could watch it doesn't have any desire to of course because it's a hispanic led uh superhero and you said not in my not in my house no this is connor this is my 11 year old he's like no no interest it's not a white lead i'm not interested no he just said it looked like hot trash and uh i kind of think he was right i it wasn't that bad i don't think it's not trash i do think it's kind of lame i would put this at like a d i can't give us a d i would give this a c i my problem is it's the blue beetle i don't like but the movie makes a point to tell me that like yeah the blue beetles i did like are do exist in this universe and they're very important to this movie i like that even though ted cord's not in it they're using all his gadgets and stuff um it's just like susan sarandon sucks so hard in this and i love the bill the villains are weak i will give you the villains yeah the villains are families like half likable they don't like all in on the grandma for some reason she gets a little too like that wasn't as funny as they thought it was um but like the sister i could not stand her yeah they like okay we've talked about this but the two things i bring up right away i like feeling sympathy for characters especially those that are coming from a tougher place they're they're having their home taken away you know the rich people are awful these guys are down in their locks great but you don't don't have me sympathize with them by making them rude little shits yeah cleaning up susan sarandon's place and uh solo is waving to her and he's like hey hi hi and she's on the phone with a business call it doesn't matter if you're wealthy or not if you're on the call with someone and some like random strangers like hey hello and then they don't acknowledge you that that's not your fault and then in the meeting in the and then the sister's like they would never wave to someone like us like well she maybe would have if she wasn't on the phone with the call yeah they just like why not just have her not on the phone walk by and then be a bitch and like look at them and just like huh i don't have time to talk to you guys yeah maybe one thing if she was just like i don't know yeah that was weird that was weird in the meeting scene after that they go in the house and the daughter or the sister takes a massive dump she says in their right nice in their like public toilet for their gas instead of using their toilets or whatever it was it's like that's incredibly rude i worked i worked at a lot of places over the course of my life and we did have like employee bathrooms it wasn't uh yeah you know it wasn't anything else other than they don't want the employees disrupting the main yeah that's that's kind of just a nice thing that you do it had nothing to do with their their uh social status or their wealth or who they were so immediately i'm like uh these messages are not landing the way that i think they want them to and that's just kind of like throughout the movie i just kept getting annoyed by their pathetic attempts to make me sympathetic towards these characters then you look at the visuals which are atrocious i joke that it was made for like a wb or i'm sorry cw show it was made for like hbo max originally and then they pumped a little bit yeah it was really put into the theaters um doesn't look good but i've also seen way worse coming off of the flash it looked pretty good yeah uh i i don't know i just had no interest in any part of this movie the the problem is it is pretty generic uh and we're in an era of just superhero fatigue and too much superhero you have to be a little bit more than just like like years from now when people are over the fatigue they might revisit revisit this go oh that movie that's actually pretty good it's just i was so burnt out at the time of all these superhero movies i didn't give it a shot so yeah again i don't think it's horrible there's but i don't like i can't even think of a cool action scene in the movie really i can't i just can't think of anything that's memorable about this film the one bill was okay i guess the the giant red beetle yeah i'll be generous and give you a d if you could do a d uh yeah we'll go d okay okay even if this was like an early phase movie i still don't think there's anything great about it this would be the equivalent to me of a like a Thor the dark world sort of situation yeah that's where i would put this if it was an mcu movie which is not not good and uh i haven't seen this next one so you have not seen aquaman two the the guy that praised the first one saying it's his favorite movie in the d ceu he loves it so much and he's not seen it yet been a little busy adam uh you probably can't tell but like i built a new cabinet and i'm getting rid of another cabinet and my fat ass is back at the gym again there's a lot going on adam didn't ask i was preparing tony i really don't care i was preparing for a christmas that's not even happening anymore so i didn't get a jam yeah half your family yeah half your family's come down with it yes but i will before thursday i will try to uh see this the thing i want to see with frank i also need to see wonka which i wasn't gonna see but some idiot called adam said it was okay so i thought it was fine if listen it's a musical that's gonna turn people off right away if you don't like musicals you're probably not gonna like this i thought it was a solid family flick and i went by myself i love willy wonka even though it was one of the most lowest viewed episodes i put out this year i still love that movie song i'll go see yeah i mean listen i i will always be a gene wilder guy he used the definitive wonka for me this new wonka is not the sarcastic smartass like dry here dude but i like i like the performance i like timothy shal may in this and i've never been like a oh man timothy shal may i gotta go see this film sort of thing but he won me over okay aquaman two i liked it more than aquaman and we have we have aquaman at a b which is just depressing to me i'm gonna put it at a b as well i think truly i would put this movie at a b on this dceu ranking and i would throw this piece of shit around a d so uh the movie is just about two hours long it's 24 minutes shorter than the first which is a big plus for me a lot of action like arguably too much action there's explosions everywhere there's a lot of stuff going on my favorite scene doesn't even have aquaman in it it's got mira and uh aquaman mom mom mom aquaman aqua queen and it's just this cool chase against some vehicles underwater it looked great how was how was black manta in this one did you like him more than the first film no he's still cringy as shit i i do think he's better in this one but i don't like the character or how they portrayed him the whole idea of this character was so stupid in how they established it because in the first movie he's drowning underwater with his dad right and and aquaman's like fuck you i'm not saving your dad but his dad was kind of in a like his dad was a jerk and he killed a bunch of people yeah why am i feeling why would he save him why would i feel bad for this guy you guys just did a bunch of terrible stuff it was just hard to get any sort of sympathy on that character um and i know he's a villain you don't have to have sympathy but it just it was weird how he wasn't able to at least look a little bit in the other direction and go oh you know what maybe it makes sense that aquaman didn't try to save my dad who went maybe i i was a pirate this kind of comes with the job it makes sense that the guy that we were trying to kill and who my father absolutely wouldn't have saved is not turning the cheek uh actions great visually is visually it's a mixed bag again but not as much for me i thought this one was more consistent it didn't have any of the beautiful shots that james won had in the previous one with the trench i didn't see any of that cool stuff i which i kind of felt bad for james won because like this movie's kind of been done for a while yeah he didn't know like originally michael keaton had a cameo as batman because it was going to be after the flash yeah and then they decided that they wanted ben afleck to stay batman because he actually liked being batman now so they reshot it with him and i'm going to guess that there is no batman in the film am i right i i didn't stay for any post credits i don't know if there actually are any but i i love i i feel like if there was a batman in this film we would have heard about it would have been spoiled online yeah like yeah like three years ago um yeah it's funny that you can definitely tell that there were a lot of editing considerations here yeah miras in it i actually not a ton but she's in it i think more than people probably thought it would be uh we we know a guy who's uh i don't know if you still follow him but we know a guy who's trying to get people to boycott the movie because he's in it there's been comments on my review already where they're like i'm not seeing this movie or no they said i was like misinformed because i said people are boycotting it because amber herds in it and they're like nope it's not because of her well it actually is for a lot of people but yeah it really is like it's because of the studio and how they treated johnny depp and how they fired him from from uh like that shitty fantastic beast franchise which is funny because zack snider just came out saying he would work with amber herd again and now the snider bros like ah i mean they don't they don't know what to think anymore but um it's like okay so that's somehow less ridiculous that you're gonna boycott an entire studio based on them not using a guy who went to court and i think didn't he lose i don't know i thought he lost one thing and then i think the other thing got thrown out yeah it's just so silly by the way i didn't care they both seem pretty terrible so i didn't care no yeah i don't care about either i i i just separate it you know because there's so many awful people in the world anyways why would we boycott something based on uh like an employee working there yeah there's thousands of people that touch these movies one of them is probably like a serial killer who knows you just don't know yeah uh yeah i i didn't mind this movie i thought it was a fun stupid time i regret not taking connor because i think connor would have had a blast with it okay now i'm actually more excited to see it yeah i think i think you'll enjoy it i'm interested to see how they do the whole like uh ocean master aquaman buddy comedy thing that stuff worked i thought pretty well i will say the weakest part of this one is jason mimoa as aquaman really he he kind of has a ben aflec thing going on where a lot of this movie he looks to have gained a decent amount of weight i don't know what's going on with the guy there's there's some very obnoxious guiness sponsorship early on where he's crushing guiness beers and i'm just thinking maybe maybe he drank a few too many in between takes but something about him's a little off they have to reusing his stupid like scream that he does it's like 10 times in this movie and now i know a little bit of the aquaman lore from the comics and you're not giving me a heads up of any uh really dark horrifying moments so i'm assuming aquaman's baby makes it out okay of this i'm not going to spoil that because that actually is a decent plot point it's it's kind of something that they bring back at the end so i can't spoil that but i will say okay i was i brought up amber heard because she's in it but she doesn't talk she's just kind of there she's in a lot of scenes just kind of hanging out i think she maybe has four sentences maybe she mentioned during the trial that they like reduced her character a lot oh you can tell yeah you can tell they reduced it i bet she was in a majority of the scenes and they just kind of worked around her yeah yeah yeah so it's definitely reduced anyway uh that is our ranking it's you know it's a mixed bag to be sure obviously tony and i are not huge on this dcu disaster while we spend a few minutes chatting about what we think the future holds for james gun and wrap up why don't you guys put any super chats in and i will read the super chats that have come in it's a little sparse right now it's the holidays i understand people are you know trying to save up for those christmas presents and do my do my people not come aboard i don't know tony you know it's it's it is what it is i understand we it's holiday time people are crunching but uh let's let's wind up you got if you got a christmas bonus you're giving it to adam right now you cheap skates let's go let's wind down with a few minutes of speculation because i love nothing more than some good old fashion speculation and while we do that super chats can come in and they can subscribe to hack the movies for the holidays hack for the holidays as i just came up with that i know i like what i said what do you think about james good what do you foresee happening with superman legacy in 2025 you think it's gonna be a man of steel situation or do you think james gun is going to start this off on a good note look i based on everything he's done um i know guardians of the galaxy too was kind of uh i think he's gonna make a good movie i think he's gonna make a pretty fine movie whether it will do well i just honestly think the audience is burnout and they've given enough opportunities for these movies like look there's a superman tv show that's been running for a few years people probably like i'll just watch that instead i i just think they're burn out on taking a risk going to the theater to see these and being let down especially by dc uh but i think the movie itself will be good you don't think gun has the pedigree with the name maybe hopefully that will help him because suicide squad i i i do love when the sighter first people who hate him they're like his movie didn't make a lot of money i'm like yeah i came out during coven not a lot of movies were doing well at the theater that was such a stupid nonsense like argument to make give me a break you don't know how much bbs or they don't know how much justice league made either yeah but then like nothing yeah peacemaker was really well received that was a really fun show i like that show as well yeah yeah so i have hope in him i think he'll make a good movie i can't guarantee it will do well because people are tired of marvel people are tired of this but they did go out in droves to see guardians three guardians three did very well that was a little bit of a holdover because well remember that was a movie people thought wasn't going to happen because he was fired yeah um yeah occasionally you'll get something like that because people also came out for spider man but they're not coming out for all the other ones i think he's coming out for james gunn i think he's obviously not he's not at the christopher nolan level of pedigree for sure but i do think there is a strong base now that knows who this guy is and they will give him a chance at superman you think a lot of people would come out for brine singer off the back of x-men one and two and the usual suspects and all those other films but uh superman returns just kind of meh yeah that movie was very mad but i think it did okay didn't it box up it did okay but not enough to justify a sequel but i think it would have done far better if the movie was great but the movie wasn't great that's true and i have legs whereas i have a whole review guardians movie what i missed that sorry i have a whole review of superman returns on my channel um but yeah no um superman's a hard sell for a lot of people and i think people who don't read comics have this weird view of superman like oh he's too powerful you could do anything it's like no they figure out ways to write around that there's yeah the character wouldn't be around as long as he has if he just it was invincible it could stop everything yeah good good writers can figure out ways or you just make a character who's who's uh like a kryptonite spear as i do like what he's doing with like the cast so um he's working in a lot of characters i like like we're gonna get a maxwell lore that hopefully doesn't suck like wonder woman 84 i think nathan villian is guy gardener who is my favorite green lantern because he's an asshole he is an asshole that all the other green lanterns hate uh he's just a real big brick um i know it's hilarious when the uh i think it's hilarious when the haters of james gone are just the snider cult holdovers they're like oh what a surprise he's using his brother and is his buddies they're going to be in his movies have you seen directors they always kick their friends and family that's kind of just i mean tim burton's wife was in basically all of his movies christopher Nolan uses the same dues in pretty much all of his films that's just they're safe people that you know and work well with that that's life and i think he's reading the room on uh changing characters too much yeah uh because he hasn't really race swapped a lot of characters but what he has done is actually introduce characters of color from the cult like mr terrific is in superman legacy who is a character i love don't know who that is he's awesome based on me i assume no no no but he's cool he's like a black guy knows a lot of tech and stuff he's got a cool like black and white jacket uh so yeah he's bringing in these characters that you might not have heard of that are people of color and putting them into the movie because people are getting annoyed they're like hey we have a character but it's the black version it's like his name his name isn't mr black fantastic because i only know if they're black based on their color of their skin being in the name there's plenty of black superheroes that don't have black i know but no um hopefully you can turn things around i hopefully you can turn things around uh i do like the cast that he has so far uh yeah we'll see we'll see my biggest concern not the movie i do think superman legacy is going to be fantastic because i just everything gun has made has worked really well for me so i think and and these are with c arguably d list characters that he's taking a kind of spun gold out of now he's got like a top dog character i think he could do really really good justice with it my big concern isn't the movie but it's the management of all the different properties because he's already stated it's not just the movies it's going to be comic books and tv shows all going to be married together and that yeah so we saw how it worked with i mean marvel basically shot themselves in the foot with all of these stupid disney plus shows and like side stories that you have to keep an eye on in order to really understand the movie if he's going to go that direction it's going to get ugly fast i just think it like goes slow with it like maybe like limited to like three movies maybe like two shows a year i feel like that'd be way more digestible that's what i'm saying make it manageable don't do this don't go hog wild with five tv shows and five movies in a year so like right now like just use the monster verse as an example because that is one shared universe that actually is pretty successful okay uh what is called they have like four movies there's a fifth one coming out and then this year they did like an animated king kong show on netflix that's only three episodes and now apple plus has like a monarch show that's set between two of the movies and i'm like this is manageable sure this is actually matter that there's only a handful of films and even those films you can watch out of order they fill you they bring you up to speed so hopefully he does something like that where it's not like required you and it should be like if you see a character in like i don't know what one of the movies that's coming out is like swamp thing i think which i really like swamp thing if there's a character who's from a show in that movie i shouldn't have to know everything about that show to enjoy that character right i should be able to watch that movie you know what i want to know more about that character let me go back and check out that show it shouldn't like hurt the film yes that's exactly i heard the marvels you have to watch like secret war yeah yeah the marvels is like so silly and dumb like aquaman too i put them in the exact same category where so better than godzilla minus one is that what you're yes of course far better obviously i didn't fall asleep watching either those two the um they're just like these throw away you know oh yeah she got her powers from a witch oh okay cool let's go it's that kind of like just lame throw away line yeah because it's all kind of just nonsense at the end of the day all right we're gonna end this with some super chats a few came in i appreciate it tony appreciates it but this looks like it's all for my this is all my crew i recognize all of these people tony you brought none of them is one of them is mine i think we share him we might share that's fine i think we have joint custody of king cold king cold is a joint yeah we have we have joint ownership we have joint ownership all right ninja for $1.99 thank you ninja s tier batman be superman martha saved the world you know what ninja i was gonna tell you to get the hell off my channel but you're a good sport and you made the martha joke like the batman's like he also has a mom like me it's like yeah batman detective wouldn't you assume that he has a secret identity and probably was raised by people on earth like he probably has a mom let's just say it's so ridiculous do you think he would have even had the emotional response if her name was julie or do you think he still would have killed him julie i don't know that bitch because batman has a girlfriend in the comics julie madison are you cucking me uh why'd you say that name i'm not okay ninja thank you the one two dollars no way wonder woman is b tier max oh one this is d ceu ranked if it was a real movie rank uh wonder woman i would agree as a b but in the d ceu realm it's an s tier look look one i too i'm surprised to myself for uh uplifting something starring a woman and painting women a positive light i wasn't expecting me to do that but the movie was just genuinely good all right tony didn't wake up this morning put on his uh put on his mega hat and say you know what we're going after women actually did you see what shirt i'm wearing yeah i know i saw that that's why i was like oh no it's it's whole kogan oh it's hogan 24 i got it at whole kogan shop you know everyone hates trump but they all love whole kogan it says make wrestling great that's fantastic he sells these in his official shop oh my god oh like i was in florida i'm like oh i'm obviously buying that i'm gonna wear it all next year of course king cold for two dollars there's our boy how can tony rank black adam so low wait king cold refresh my memory are you the one who bought me this i think he might have been the guy who bought me this it's gonna be uh soul custody pretty soon here tony yeah you know what adam you can have him yeah you can have him thank you king cold thank you the one daniel fa for two dollars thank you daniel yo yo famous tony and strong male lead adam mary x miss i like x gonna give it to you x gonna give it to you which as we know x is the roman numeral for 10 so it's really mary ten miss oh think about it there's no x in christmas i never i don't understand that what does that mean even where did the x come from on mary christmas because i honestly don't know i i look at christmas i looked it up years ago and then i decided it's easier just to scream keep christ and christmas to people because the cross the cross of christ spun is an x it all came together all right thank you daniel mary x missed to you as well mary ten missed to you as well king cold for five dollars he's back calling it now superman legacy will fail i can see it i can see it no not a chance there's too much writing on this film you guys don't understand anything listen you don't understand anything listen tony look listen okay okay michael keaton comes out as batman everybody says it's gonna fail yeah it doesn't it not only succeeds it makes a ton of money batman returns comes out does it again when michael keaton leaves and he's replaced they say it's gonna fail it's got jim carrey he's a goofball no one's gonna go see batman forever val kilmer it succeeds it does even better when george cloney takes over his batman and robin and he's got nips popping out of that suit val kilmer had the val kilmer had the nips first people said it was gonna fail it succeeded when christopher nolyn rebooted preceding when christopher nolyn rebooted they said it was gonna fail they made a trilogy and even the stupid new snider batman movies made money this is a shoe in for superman it's a shoe in wait but batman returns made less money than the first batman robin was so bad that they pulled the plug on superman they made money it's all he said it was gonna fail define failure sir define it for me okay it's a financial failure uh i'm in i'm my examples are sound if it's a film level they're literally not one of them did so bad they didn't make a batman movie for eight years let's see what the box office i have no idea what the box office is for batman and robin 238 million up a budget of 125 million that's not a good thing that's not it's not a win that's not a win so i think i i think i made my point okay i will not admit i'm wrong king cold for five dollars and the final super chat of the night thank you king cold if i don't see you guys mary christmas this time he didn't use the x and happy new year interesting i do i do the think this is how he wrote it verbatim okay ww 84 is well acted just the script sucks very bad no it's not well acted not well acted i did like when wonder woman crushed the two children into the pavement when she scooped them up and then just like fucking ragdolled over them that was my favorite part of the movie tell me do you bleed me throws batman on the lawn so good so good okay well tony um wow i got here's the deal i didn't know this was gonna go so late and so fiery it's almost i'm sorry i will not be streaming on twitch after all sorry sorry guys you should have messaged me in the pride or did you you should have been like hey fuckers speed it up no no no no i like the conversation i would never rush i would never rush friendship i don't know if you know this but i would rush a good chat i mean maybe i could maybe you could have said less about comic book history because i don't give a shit but that's fine look at him i i talk for a living now and sometimes i don't know how to turn it off oh all right one last time you guys hack the movies it's tony you know his channel is growing it's obviously not where i'm at which is fine but um you know he's gonna get there he'll maybe catch up we were hoping to hit 74 000 subscribers on this channel by the end of the year that would be an amazing holiday gift a christmas gift if you will or any any whatever you celebrate is fine just throw a subscription tell your mom tell your sister tell your dad tell your aged grandpa who's racist just say hey adam adam mistakes black people all the time he thought one of the actors who died uh was was someone completely different so you guys have something in common and tell me does it really like the japanese or they're filled right he his son his son refuses to watch blue beetle um yeah the whole family is racist grandpa subscribe so yeah we would like to hit that milestone and then when you're done you can go over to tony's channel he's uh he's even worse than me you couldn't even imagine the kind of people he has yeah i talk about politics on my channel uh actually actually the worst home alone we uh did bring up donald trump quite a bit oh don't do that my my guest my guest prison mike founded in his heart to forgive donald trump for not pardoning him he loves himself so much he he said he said it was he forgives donald trump and he knew it was smarter to pardon little wane over him so you know really well one of them's making music for the ages and i don't think his prison might and on that note like every note should end on with some weird political discourse let's end this stream thank you tony for coming on subscribe to hack the movies great stuff tony you're the first guest i had on the live stream this year and now you're the last we've come full circle it's a whole harry potter voldemort situation we came into this together we're going out together you're voldemort of course i'm harry well similar to you you're my first guest on the live wrap ups that i did at the end of the year one and then i was like let me make this a thing only not do a hundred movies because ours went four hours so i'm glad we're not doing that again i've simplified it this year that's good that's good so yeah you can find me on that live stream in a few days we'll be doing that and i assume in 2024 i will probably be at hack the movies at some point in the studio that's just got to be something we do sometimes yeah that's gotta happen tony's gonna fund it because he's gonna fall into a bunch of money and and you know i'll still be paying off hospital bills for my stupid family don't get married or have kids see you guys