 The internet says that the future want to do the media the want to do the metavers What will the metavers incorporate into the applications of the metavers? Ok so the applications of the metavers One that is most marketed there are work spaces We already have virtual meetings, we already have things like Zoom calls and Google Meet. So what if we could incorporate virtual reality in a 3D space? So that's one application. So at work basically Facebook has Facebook Horizon? Facebook Horizon Workrooms. Facebook Workrooms. Facebook Workrooms. Yes, it's called that. Meta is already investing in spaces like those where people can have 3D representations of themselves, have pictures, have brainstorms, present ideas in a 3D space. So you can have a conversation about how a kak would look like. So instead of just having the normal flat design, it can be presented in the Metaverse as a 3D version of itself. So you can see the whole visualisation of the product here. Okay. What other place will it be applied? Another place which is very optimistic about is in schools and education. Because we said about things like the classrooms, about how we all learned, I learned about how a cell would look like, but it is often represented on a flat surface. So what if a student wants to see how a cell would look like in real life, in real life and the different chemical processes, biological processes that are going on in the cell. Being a massive tool that masses consciousness around a 3D space, we can define the different chemical processes on visualisation. So you can see how the cell membrane would move if something like an anomaly hits it. So we can visualise things like those. On engineering, not only the flat surface, but also the 3D versions of the components can be visualised in the space. And you can have direction by a person who is even in the moon. You can be talking about. So it's a whole massive technology that can be applied in schools. Okay. So another one. Still in education, I'm thinking of how firefighters are usually taught. So that would save them from, because if they do it in a physical location, they spend a lot because there's a lot of damage done. So now when they do it in the Metaverse, it's more of a simulation. Not just the physical act of moving into burning buildings and maybe risking your life. Maybe there are some aspects of the training that do not need the exposure to harm in that manner. Okay. Alright, continue. So the next application that's also very exciting is sharing of space. Let's say in the studio right now, instead of people just watching us, they could get into a version of the Metaverse that you are a member of or subscribe to. And they can actually be with us as if we are in the same space. So we can have our audience that is online. Come on board, just in the studio. Yes. And they feel like they are here. And we can interact with them in that space. And it's really exciting for people like artists who are trying to maybe organize events, maybe a small intimate session. But you live in Nairobi and you have a big fan base in Brazil. So instead of moving there, they could move into your Metaverse space. They come to you instead. Yes. And the event is held virtually. Virtually. Yes. And we've had some virtual concerts recently by Fortnight Games. We had Aliana Grandave, Travis Collet performing. Yes. So how was that? So it's something that has been going on for a minute, but maybe they did not explain it in the Metaverse context. But the technology has always been there. The concept of holding virtual events has always been there, but being fully immersive and having the social aspect of it makes it come to the Metaverse conversation. And it's really exciting for upcoming artists who not necessarily have the funding, the type of resources that maybe these big music companies have. So it will open up many opportunities. Alright. Some other applications? So another application is virtual land, virtual real estate. So that's in the real estate. So since you're talking about the likes of Travis Scott and Aliana Grande, there's also a famous proponent of the Metaverse. That's also Snoop Dogg and Paris Hilton. Yes. They both land. They're actually investing, building virtual spaces that is really exciting for people who would like to design spaces. And if you would want to have a virtual land or virtual house, you can go to the Metaverse and live there in your avatar state. Yes. So Snoop Dogg bought his land and then he's calling it Snoop. Snoop verse or something. Yes. Now, are these the spaces that people will be buying in the Metaverse for them to host staff? You can buy a land and then they do virtual tours or something? Yes. So you can, from where I said, it's not yet said. Things are very kind of primordial right now at its infancy. But I see a place like the Snoop verse. I think he might be having some artwork in the digital space. Now that brings the conversation about NFT. But he might be having a virtual tour of his space. And people might pay. I would pay. I'd pay to see how Snoop Dogg's imagination and life could be if you mix realities. And we had someone buying land next to Snoop Dogg in December last year. So an NFT collector spent $450,000 for the privilege of becoming Snoop Dogg's next donor neighbor in the Metaverse by buying a digital plot of land in his virtual world. So it's that expensive to buy and land in the virtual space? It's with all the hype and all the craze about this whole blockchain technology, about cryptocurrency, about NFT, about digital land. Of course prices are out of this world. Literally prices are out of this world. I'm imagining that this is cheap because now it's not yet been realized. So people are just still new to the idea? Yes. So this we can call it a fair price? It can be fair price. It can also be symptoms of a bubble. So you can, like most of these cryptocurrencies that are hyped up, then it falls drastically. And people lose their money in that way. You can't say it's an investment as it is, but if you are really risk of us and you are willing to try new technologies, get in while it's still new years. Okay. So how does NFT come into play in the Metaverse? So start by explaining what the NFT is first? NFT as it is is a non-fungible token. So that's a technical word of... I'd simplify it to a digital code that can be traced back to a specific owner. So it's very hard to replicate that exact piece. So it's unique? It's extremely unique to the identity of the owner. So a person can get all art that can be digitized in NFT format. So that can be music, that can be a photo, that can be a 3D representation of any model, any idea, a house, a river, things like those. So you can actually buy a 3D version of a house and since you can also buy a piece of digital land, you can have a house and everything. So maybe wall art and skins, I don't know if you know skins, if you play things like Fortnite, different clothes you can also get in NFT format. So since it is something that can't be, as it is now, can't be replicated, it's only unique to you and you own it. Okay, so can we compare it to the physical world? Yes. So we can compare it to maybe an art piece like that of Yonado Da Vinci, the famous painting. The famous painting, yes. Yes of Mona Lisa. Yes. So that one is unique. The original piece, so it can't be replicated, if it's replicated still, there's only one. Yes. So that's the same thing with the NFTs. So if I have maybe my music and I have digitized it, it's in the digital format, so when I buy it from the original owner of the song, so I get an NFT. It can be sold, the piece of art or the music as you've put it can be, if it's digitized, it can be sold in itself as art. So it can be sold as an NFT. That can be traced to the original owner. That also breaks down the industry trope about how these big music companies might shorthand artists and things like that. So an independent artist can sell their music as an NFT and get money off it. So there is a Canadian artist, I don't know if he's a rapper or a singer, it's Tori Lanez. He released some music some time ago and within maybe what an hour he'd made like a million dollars. So right now it's like a hundred million, it's a very short span. So that is through NFT. Yes, he released it as an NFT. Yes, it was think a dollar, so he made some coin off it. Alright, so back to the applications, what are some of the areas that you've not mentioned? I think I've mentioned the most significant ones. So if a person can also want to invest in the metaverse, one that's more conventional, more approachable is investing in companies like meta. Investing in companies, meta also Facebook, investing in companies that are taking the metaverse conversation seriously. So you can bet that the internet is going in that direction. So people like Apple are also looking into the version of the metaverse. There are people like Microsoft, they are... Epic. Yes, also funny enough you've mentioned their online games. So that's also a version of the metaverse. So now we've talked about all the glitters and glam of the metaverse. So what are some of the negative aspects of the metaverse that we should look out for? Like a lot of technology, you should approach it with the cautious optimism. Approach it with the look that it's going to be... It has the potential of going south real quick. But since you have faith in humanity, it will be used as a tool for good. But one thing that I'm really considering to be a very... I wouldn't say negative. Okay, let's just call it negative. This identity lifestyle that the black mirrors we have in our pockets, in our bags, on our walls, the cell phones, the smartphones, the computers, the laptops, the televisions that we have around. So imagine a wall that is totally a massive. We can go potentially, we can go weeks on end without even leaving that house. Interacting with people. Yes, and I feel that will really, really disconnect us from what is really real. So we lose track of what is important because we need to make real connections. Yes, we might forget that our friends are people who we meet and we talk like you and I here. It's something that we sometimes have for granted in this social media space. And on privacy, how secure is it? So from...during Facebook's metamorphosis to Meta, they say that they are designing safety at its center, safety and privacy. So people who are using the Facebook, the Meta version of the Metaverse will have an added layer of safety that is fundamental, that is at the building blocks of the whole environment. So I would say that's what they said. But since we are cautiously optimistic, we are also cautious in the cautious optimistic side, right? So these big companies are the ones that designed the social media platforms. Yes, we have had trouble. And we have trouble with the social media networks. So maybe we'd have to rethink of how we'd have to engage with this type of technology. And we do not know where it would lead us. Nobody knew where Facebook would go. So as we come to a close, someone said, a critic said, just because you can't does it mean you should. So what do you make of this? Give us your opinion on the Metaverse. As I said, we approach new technology in cautious optimism. Yes, let us just embrace new technology, but remember that we are human at the end of it. So you've chosen to be in the middle ground. Yes. So thank you very much Stanley for your time and explain to us about the Metaverse. Thank you for having me. So can I say thank you? Yes. Can I also congratulate my sister who's just finished from 4? Yes. This is your camera. You can give your shout out. Hello Joy. So congratulations on finishing your phone 4 and we are really proud of you. Thank you. All right. So that has been Stanley Onyango, an information manager talking to us about the Metaverse. I hope that has helped your knowledge on the Metaverse, which is the future. Many companies, many tech companies are already working on this Metaverse. The hashtag is still one in the morning. The question we have asked you today on Facebook