 Awesome. Well, thank you everybody. Thank you for joining us here for our TechSoup Webinar, Collective Training for Non-profits on TechSoup courses. We have a whole team here to answer your courses, the whole TechSoup team in courses, and they do a fantastic job. So any questions that you have, feel free to ask them today. We're going to move on to the next slide to show you how you can engage with us today. If you have a question, please put it in the Q&A section. Well, you can type it in chat. We have plenty of numbers that can answer your questions, but we prefer them in the Q&A and at the E-section and we will answer them. If you need the close caption to follow along, just tap on that CC button and you can actually choose your language. Now I love how Zoom is changing things up. We will email you the video replay and the slides within 48 hours, and I'm looking forward to hand this over to Saba and the whole course of TechSoup team to hear more about this. I always learn from you guys, so welcome everybody. Thanks Saba. Thank you, Aretha. Hello everyone. Thank you for taking the time to join us today. Allow me to quickly introduce our team. We have Gray Harriman here who's our director and leading our global learning program at TechSoup. My colleague here, Shuya, who handles all production and instructional design for all of our wonderful TechSoup courses that we have, and yours truly, I handle operations for our learning programs. Let's talk a little about our agenda today. Our agenda is going to be covering, of course, information about our topic. We will take some time to go over what the TechSoup program offers, our offerings through all our courses, and mainly talk about our collaborative trainings for nonprofit staff and volunteers. Let's start by sharing the aim of our TechSoup courses program. Our aim, the TechSoup courses program aims to train nonprofit staff and volunteers to help organizations become digitally transformed and resilient, and we support all of these organizations globally through our training courses. So since we're on the topic of courses, let's start off with our first poll question. You can use scan this QR code from your phones or simply log on to menti.com and use the code that we've shared. So we'll give you a couple of seconds to do that. And we'd like you to answer our first poll question, have you taken a TechSoup course? Shuya, do you want to pull up our results? Wow. I see that many of you have taken three or more courses, which is great. And glad to see that many of you haven't. And this is a great opportunity for us to introduce you to what we have. So, let's move on to our next slide, please. Here's a little more information about our TechSoup courses program. This program was started in 2017 and we currently have over 200 courses with 80,000 learners globally. In chat, we will put in our link to our catalog for courses. And through our learning platform, we offer different types of courses. And let us go ahead and introduce to you what are the delivery methods that we use for our courses. So as you can see here, we do have live events which are led by experts, subject matter experts. And these are either webinars or seminars, or one are ask the expert sessions. So you come in, send in your questions and we have the expert answer them live as you are interacting with them. And we have our on-demand courses. So these are great because these can be taken at your time, at your convenience. And on our catalog, when you browse through them, you'll see these on-demand courses. They're usually one-on-one or two-on-one level courses that we have on our catalog. We also used to have workshops in person and now mostly we do many of them online and of course remotely. We also offer different kinds of learning like the micro learning which are shorter videos, they are guides or resources that are helpful to non-profit staff and volunteers. And you simply can pull that up to use that as a resource guide or watch a short video to engage in learning with us. We're mostly going to be talking today about our blended learning programs and we will, to give you an introduction of what these blended learning programs are. These are instructor-led live trainings that happen over a period of six to eight weeks and they have a live session every week with self-paced content as well. So they usually run from six to eight weeks but each session is recorded. So not only do you have the opportunity to interact live but if you want to go back and look at material, you can do that. Or if you missed a session, you can still go back and look at the recording. And then we have assignments etc that we do during the six to eight period to sort of build on the learning that was shared. And a very interesting component that we have that we've received great feedback on is our discussion forum. It allows you to interact with the subject matter expert and also with like-minded peers like yourself that are going through this course and may have, you know, great nuggets of information to share. Or you might come together with you to problem solve on a common issue. In terms of variety of topics, we do have a variety of topics that we have courses on. Mainly the pillars that we have are strategy, technology, operations, marketing and data management. But of course, as you can imagine, since we have over 200 courses, they cover various topics and we do have some very interesting blended learning courses coming up in the near future, which we will share about very soon with you. I will now hand it over to Gray Harriman to continue. So over to you, Gray. Okay. Well, good to be with you here. So we have, you know, we're going to concentrate on our 300 level courses, which are the hybrid, as we said today. So we'll say a little bit about them and how they fit. We have a, you know, number of offerings and as, you know, we, as Sabah said, six to eight weeks is what we use for hybrid courses. There's no magic in the sense that we are not arbitrary saying this but, you know, we are going to go through the instructional design process that she is going to show. And we'll let you see how, how we determine, you know, the, you know, the structure of the courses and that determines the length. Usually, it's a six week. We, you know, try to have these courses be project based so that when you leave the course you have some experience that's relevant to your nonprofit. You can work with the instructor so you have, you know, questions, you know, answered. It's not a consultive situation in the sense that, you know, we're not consulting to tailor everything to your nonprofit, but rather we're trying to give you the background and get you all the questions that there are relevant to you. So that then you can tailor things to your nonprofit. We'll go to the next slide. Okay, so we use an instructional design approach, which we will be showing is a well known instructional design approach called the Addie model. And that's what it stands for the analysis design development implementation and evaluation, in which, you know, the analysis part is really important. Try to see who is going to be taking the course, you know, it could be executive directors, it could be staff, it could be volunteers. So we try to determine, you know, who's going to be the population interested in this course so that we can tailor it to those specific needs. You know, then we go into the design section. And as we design it, you need to know that we are focusing on nonprofits. So, while, you know, sometimes the topical area, for example, we could deal with something related to a marketing, but it's very different to market in a nonprofit that it is in a business. So we're going to be looking, you know, throughout the design as to how that fits the nonprofit. And so those are key components, the analysis and the design. The development is more mechanical, we've already, you know, gone through the design. So we, we are now are looking at, you know, how do we deliver. And we'll see more when Shurya presents, but it's, it's, you know, it's all that's all guided and instructed by the analysis and design. The implementation is where we put it into the learning management system that you will actually, you know, engage with, you will enroll, you will do all your activities. And then something really important that differentiates, you know, much of what we do at TechSoup, which is the evaluation. So there's several areas here that are real key that are different from what you would see, you know, in other places when when you go to take courses, the analysis and the design as well as the evaluation. Those are key and key differentiators for the courses that we provide. Let's move to the next slide. Shurya, you're going to. Yeah, thank you, Saban Gray. So I'm very excited here to show you two of the courses that we had in the past as examples so you can have a closer look at what the learning experiences like. So the first example is a course named of named as become a tech forward fundraiser that happened in last May. I'm going to open the course session. This is the course front page, and you can go to course from here, or you learners usually get an email announcement from our team, letting them know that the course has been opened. The course session has been opened on the learning management system before the first lab session. So you can also use the link in the email to come in the to the same place here. This is the home for everything that people will need to access the course materials and the live sessions. So as you can see from my browser window here. You will see a welcome module at the first site introducing you the basics and what will be covered in this course and what you are going to learn. And we also have a pre assessment form for you to assess how much knowledge you already know before taking the course. So then you can make a comparison after taking the course to see how much you have improved. And we also, as I mentioned, we have a discussion forum dedicated to each course. It's 300 level course. So we are inviting people to introduce yourself and get to know the fellow learners before the first live session so So we are more familiar with each other. As you can see, and this is the participant from last time. And we also have instructions of how you can complete this course. Typically we require any tech points and the submission of the course and evaluation form in order to get the completion certificate. And there is also some instructions of what activities in the course will or do take points and those mechanics, and you can get to know the instructor of this course, the experts before the session by reading the bio. So then we have all these modules for each week that we release on a weekly basis. Also, we will send out a reminder email one or two days before each live session letting you know that something is going to happen on a certain date at some time so you remember to come to the session. And also if there is any pre session learning materials for learners to go through, it will be also included in the email. So people can click on the link and come here and go through any materials that may be embedded here. And this one because it's a past course so you don't see you see the recordings here but if it's a new course that you are coming to attend the live session you will see an orange button here. So this is how people access the live session to interact with the instructor and peers. After the live session, a few days, usually two days or so. The recordings will be processed along with the transcripts and zoom chat and any other resources mentioned. So we will send another email to learners as a recap for this week. And I remind you to come here to visit the recordings and other activities, practice activities you are supposed to do for this week. So you will see the recordings transcripts download link and we have a separate page for all the resources and activities for this week. So for example, for this week one, we invite learners to complete a tech stack inventory worksheet to get to understand your technology landscape before starting the whole project for the course. After you have completed the work, we're inviting you to share your work in the discussion forum. So the instructor can provide feedback. You can see there are some back and forth here and feedback is provided by the instructor. Sometimes learners also enjoy looking at each other's work and share their feedback to their peers. And we also have additional discussion threads for people to share their idea on the topic of the first week, like this one, who helps you when your technology glitches. So people come here to share their experiences or ideas or thoughts. So to have some in-depth discussion there. And there's also a place to ask questions to get answers from the expert in the discussion forum. And there are more additional resources for people to check out if you want to take learning to a more advanced level. There are some additional resources. So the format is similar for each week. People will go to the next week when the time approaches and go through the materials and activities. So for this course, the topic is fundraising technology. The overall project or end result for this course is a six month action plan to put together your technology plan for your fundraising. So it's breaking down into pieces for each week. The first week is to help you get a basic understanding of your current technology. And then the second week and the following weeks help you understand the different types of technology that you can take into consideration and the other related details or preparations you will need to do for this type of technology. For example, the second week is for databases. So you will need to reflect on your data collection and storage plan. And so after all these weeks, near the end of the course, you will be putting together the whole action plan. The course finishes. We invite people to fill out the assessment form, which I mentioned that there is a comparison of the same learning objectives after the course so you know how much you have improved. And we also collect to be back on your experience in this course so we can improve our future offerings, which we are really, we are very appreciative of. And if people want to download a certificate of completion you can come to either this module to get more information or there's links on the top menu for people to access the certificate. So this is our first example. And I want to show you another example on a different topic that also happened last year, that is on data analytics for nonprofits, leveraging your data for action. The format and the process is very similar as the first example that I just described. So for the second example, I want to quickly show you the content side a little bit. So this course is aiming at helping nonprofits to come up with your data plan, and to achieve that, it's breaking down into six weeks on the different steps. So you will start to start with introduction to what is the plan you are going to develop. And then you are going to define what data you are going to collect and how you can collect it and then come to the consideration when you analyze the data. And finally, how you can use the data analysis results to communicate and do the reporting to stakeholders. You'll see for each week. People meet with the instructor and there is some breakout sessions during the live session where people to work on some small tasks or to have discussion on their data practices. And we also provide the worksheets for you to complete the necessary activities. So this is the assignment for the first week. And for this course, there is more pre session learning materials to go through. So we have a specific tab for people to prepare for the next week. And there's pre recorded presentation to watch and an activity small activity to complete all materials are provided here and we also link to the discussion threads for people to share their work and get feedback. So first week define what the plan is and then second week what to collect. Sometimes the live session is very engaged and interactive and the people have a lot of questions. When that happens and when we don't have enough time to answer all the questions during the live session on the instructor will provide return format question or some other maybe recorded videos to answer the answer the remaining questions and we put it up on the learning management system as well. So this is to complete the next step of the worksheet. And we also provided recorded instructions on how to complete that worksheet. And the instructors also talk about the equity length, the equity considerations when people collect data. And when you analyze data is also difference between quantitative and qualitative data collection and analysis. So, finally, in the last week, learners will come up with a plan of how you will analyze I mean communicate your results with your stakeholders. So that's it. From my side, sharing our past examples with you and I want to stop for maybe one minute or so to see if we have any questions from the chat from our audience. Cool. So I'm going to hand over to Gray to continue. Go to the next slide. This is, we shared with you the different formats now that we have no different format courses and what Julia just showed you were the 300 level courses. But I'm going to talk generally as to what differentiates and then I will go into, you know, the 300 level, you know, hybrid courses. But as you see, you know, we have gotten a lot of good evaluations, you know, and this is based on what we talked before that instructional design that we talked about, you know, how we analyze then design for the nonprofit. And I'm going to be talking more about how we evaluate. But as you can see, you know, even from our lighter level courses. You know, they gave us good, good feedback, you know, so training is, you know, is simple, easy to use. The content was very informative, clear, concise, you know, so we have a lot of, you know, good, good comments and, you know, awesome course. But this is not accidental. You know, there is a whole process and the process was what Julia was describing in her, you know, in the courses and I talked about, you know, briefly about the instructional design. So let's go to the next slide. So the key part of the key to what we do is the evaluation of the courses and I showed you a, you know, brief. Sorry about my phone going crazy here. So Shria showed you briefly the, you know, a form that people use at the end of a course right. So that tends to be what traditional courses do if you go and taking a course for example, you know, in any institution or in high school, you know, you all experienced courses where you know at the end of the course there is a questionnaire. And then you, you answer that questionnaire. And basically it assesses where you learn what was taught or if you recall what was taught right. So, you know, so they know, you know, okay, you know this person actually recalls what what the instructor said or what the readings were or whatnot. But what it does not do is measure how you're going to be using that in the long term and affecting the work. So at TechSoup, you know, and we have, you know, at TechSoup learning, you know, TechSoup courses, we have this aim, which is to ensure that nonprofits worldwide benefit long term from the learning provided by TechSoup. So the key here is long term. And that ties into this other kinds of evaluation that we, you know, have done, which is called acropatric course evaluation. And that aims to see what do you do six months a year after you've taken the course. You can take a lot of instruction in other places, and you they might lead to recollection at the end of the course immediately after the course. But what happens months after it, you know, this was your investment of time and money worthwhile. So let's go to the next slide and we will, you know, look at a little bit about the differences in acropatric evaluation because what we're looking at now is the levels. You know, the action immediately, you know, after the course, how did you feel about the course, the learning, did you learn the skills, you know, that were imparted the behavior, do you have a behavioral change what we have not done yet at TechSoup is a level four, which is, you know, document the results in how we've changed the organization by changing by by changing the staff or by changing you if you take the course. So let's go to the next slide and talk a little bit about, you know, the process. Okay, the process is right after the course we have a post course evaluation which was you what you saw, you know, that should be demonstrated. And then we have months later, you know, if we are using the Patrick method where we're doing a follow up, you know, with a survey, as well as an interview and so we're going to be looking at, you know, how are you doing. The process is done with people that have completed at least 80% of the course out of fairness because, you know, if you have only engaged with a course partially or done 20% of the course then of course the evaluation is not going to reflect, you know, things as they should, but we do that for the initial evaluations for all learners that complete the course and, you know, the 80% that we follow through. So let's go to the next slide. These are just going to be examples of a Kirk Patrick evaluation result. And you will see that in level one we asked, you know, how did you feel about the training. You know, if you like the structure of the course, we're activities engaging so it's not just about the, you know, the evaluation about what you learned that is also a second part, but this is the initial one and as you see, in this example we get very high marks. This ties into the initial instructional design, but you know, the, the averages are very good and telling that, you know, TechSoup is providing, at least for this course, you know, this example, very solid instruction. That's what this slide is telling us. So let's go to the next slide. This is a number of other slides. This is level two. So, so we, we look at, you know, so you accelerate it too much go back one. Thank you. So, so in these in this case we had a lot of, you know, different questions, you can see at the bottom, you know, questions one through six. And one question, you know, we got lower scores, which means that we could mean that people didn't learn it actually what we found was that our question was a little bit confusing. So, but we still got a very high score. So this talks about the level of learning of the actual skills that were imparted. Also, now we get very, very high scores. So let's go into the next. This is showing, you know, how much people actually use in this case is Excel, you know, before the instruction and after the instruction, you can see the increase of course the people that had less experience have now, you know, boosted, you know, higher levels that those that already came in with a lot of knowledge. It was even then they then increase the level of usage. So, you know, let's go to the next slide. Great. Before you proceed, Swapna Shah has raised his hand and has a question. So do you want to ask your question. You can also type it in chat if you would like Swapna. So I think you'll have to type your question in chat and we'll be happy to answer it or you can type it in the Q&A section, and we'll be happy to circle back with you and answer your question. Please continue. Great. Thank you. Okay. So, so this is important because this is what really makes differentiates TechSoup from others and I will talk more about that but you can see in level three with the behaviors, you know, that it prompted curiosity that it wasn't enhancing, you know, you know, their career development, you know, the actual doing hands-on, you know, is something that they seem to appreciate in these courses. So I'm not going to go through all of these but, you know, just to let you know that there is, you know, something solid going on in these courses, the other design and the delivery. So let's go into the next one. So what is different in our 300 level courses, which are the ones that Shuiya demonstrated. And the thing that you need to think about is, you know, if you've taken a college course, you know, a high school course, your instructor goes in the front of the class, delivers, you know, to you, and walks out of the class at the end, and hardly any feedback. Now imagine what would happen if, you know, that instructor, you know, you could give, you know, stopped at the end of the class, that instructor was asked about, you know, what do they feel, you know, needs improvement, and then they got some criticism from others. You know, your level of that course would be vastly different. And that's what we do. At the end of each session, and remember, these are courses that are, you know, typically six weeks. At the end of each session, we have a debrief in which we asked, you know, exactly those questions from the instructor, you know, what do they feel needs to be improved. And then we have, you know, the instructional designer, in this case, you know, Shuiya, we have a facilitator, we have a chat moderator, and we have technical support. So all of the aspects of everything that can influence those courses is taking into account to improve the course. And then we implement those changes. And we're implementing them in the next session. So what we learned from from one, you know, session in the course will apply immediately next week in the second session, let's say. But we also, you know, trying to improve the offering of that particular session in future, you know, courses, and all future courses, right. So, so that's, this is a continuous improvement approach that we use with these 300 level courses and everything hundred level course goes through the evaluation. And this is what makes tech soup different. The design was designed for nonprofits. You know, the delivery, you know, with the activities and the engagement, you know, areas that Shuiya showed us how to communicate with others through forums, how to engage with online activities. And then our strong evaluation that guarantees the quality. So what we are saying is you could sometimes people say, Well, I could go to YouTube and find some of these things. Well, good luck. Yes, you can go to YouTube and find little pieces here or there, but you're not going to have that global knowledge. And you're not going to have the quality of delivery. And who's going to say, six months a year from, you know, from the time that you finished the course, if this was effective for you and your staff and your volunteers and your organization. I can tell you from what I just showed you before that indeed that's the case that our courses are being effective and are having an impact on on the on people and organizations, even six months in a year after they have completed the course. And that's a real accomplishment. It's a really differentiator between tech soup courses and other courses that you might find elsewhere. I'm going to wrap it up there. Again, you know, finishing up with with the long no term benefit of, you know, it's our focus. That's what we, you know, aim at doing. And we're going to keep on looking in trying to keep on improving our courses delivery to affect your the long term effect in your nonprofits. And with that, I'm going to pass it again to Saba so that she can tell you more about, you know, what do we offer. Okay, thank you for that great. Let's run through quickly some of the topics that we have already covered and which are the courses that we're coming up with so some of the past courses that we've covered. I hear up on the screen our data analytics for nonprofits course was 300 level course, but we also do have to on demand courses in our catalog so please do check them out we've received great feedback about these courses. We have shared a little about becoming a tech forward fundraiser and two other courses that we've also run around choosing the right tech and selecting the best fundraising system again our fundraising courses are, you know, courses that a lot of nonprofits show interest in and we do have some on demand courses related to fundraising as well so please do check our catalog for that. And now coming on to which courses are coming up so our first course that we have coming up is cybersecurity and data privacy, which starts on March 14. On the right of your screen you're going to see all the things that we have are going to cover in the content of the course all the things that you're going to learn through the six week program that we have planned. And it's around data privacy, how do you look at cybersecurity for your organization on as a whole. What are the assets you need how do you identify those what are the fundamental elements of cybersecurity, and then through the six week course we help you develop a roadmap. You can plan for your organization in terms of what cybersecurity what the cybersecurity posture of your organization should be and what should be the data privacy practices, because all of us are handling data that is very sensitive. And so we think that this course will help you with that journey. If you think about enrolling for this course we urge you to please use the discount that we are offering. We do have $100 off that we're offering to any of you that would like to come for the course if you if you think someone from your organization or a friend or a colleague might benefit from attending the course, please do pass on this discount coupon to them as well. So you will use this discount coupon at checkout and we will be sure sure to you know share these links and these resources in our follow up as well after after the webinar ends. The next course after cybersecurity and data privacy is our nonprofit website strategy course. This course is starting on April 5 and to the right of your screen you can see all the learning objectives that we have outlined that you're going to be learning in the six week period. And we think the starting point of any nonprofit is what you have on your website, all the important information around how you build a growth driven website. What are the potential improvements that you can make on the current one as well. And we do have experts that are going to be joining us over the six weeks to answer any questions that you may have regarding your current website or any plans that you might already be considering. The tools that are available like Google analytics. That is an important tool when you are building your website to be used so these are some of, you know, our potential content that we're going to be covering. And again, we are offering $100 discount. Please do use it we want you to take advantage of the discount. So please do use it please do share this discount code as well with anyone that you think will benefit. And again the course starts April 5 and it goes on for six weeks and just like you we expect to have about 50 other nonprofit staff and volunteers joining this course. So, that's as far as our two upcoming courses and in terms of levels of who are going to be participating we do have executive directors, nonprofits, staff, management, any anyone that's in the it team of your organization, or anyone that is interested in, you know, getting to know more about this topic is welcome to join. We are sharing in our chat all the information with the links as well for you to look through and of course we are available to answer any questions as well. And since we're discussing what are the topics that we have coming up and we've shared with you two other courses, we would love to hear from you. So here's our next poll, we want to hear from you and want to understand what are the topics that you are interested in learning so please do again go on to menti.com please use this code and type in your check, you can use a checkbox there are multiple options you can choose multiple options. So, please do that or simply scan the QR code. And while you're doing that we will pull up the results and share what we're seeing on our screen right now. Wonderful AI tech planning project management cyber security. This will be website strategy. Wonderful this is great so in terms of website strategy and cyber security, you know you're covered in terms of the other topics we definitely are planning courses on those topics as well. And we will be sure to keep keep everyone posted earlier in the chat I saw, we had shared where our catalog is and then you know there's a tab called special offers, which usually outlines all the upcoming courses and discounts associated with those. I'm very happy to see that we're getting some more votes on social media and fundraising and Google Analytics as well. Great. Thank you. Thank you for putting in your votes here. All right, I think we let me stop here and just look at the chat and the Q&A. Yes, Kimberly I see in chat that you signed up for the cyber security offer and receive $70 we can absolutely pass on the additional $30. Just drop in an email to us at learn at techsoup.org. And we can take care of that for you. Absolutely. And we also do see some other questions in chat which are mostly answered. Does TechSoup offer quick book courses. My colleague has put in a link for through TechSoup courses we don't have it but at techsoup.org we do have a quick books course and there's a link to that. Another question which says help a cohort of 60 nonprofit staff and learners on the slides being shown and it's unclear to me what that means. So 60 we can help. So if you do have belong to an organization and everyone in your organization needs a course we can help with that. So 300 level courses that we have we usually have enrollments up to 75 nonprofit staff and volunteers so that that's what we were referring to I hope we answered that. I don't see. I think I see another question are any courses differentiated for orgs that are mostly using cloud hosted services versus those on premise. A little bit of tricky question yes and no so we do have courses that are product based like Adobe etc but we since these courses are generic they do not have they don't call out specifics in terms of whether it's specifically for cloud hosted or on premise not to say that we wouldn't have something like that I think this is giving us something to really think about depth so thank you for that question I hope I was able to answer that and great if you want to add anything to that you, you can show yeah you can. It's, it's a question that we have in our Q&A section. And you know we don't generically, you know, have different areas for for those, you know, but you know, it depends on a course by four spaces, most of our courses, you know, there are software based, you know, or, you know, either Microsoft or Adobe. The other ones are not so software based so they wouldn't be differentiated. So let me just step in. Hi, just to respond also to the cloud hosted services. I do want to point out that as as Saba and Gray mentioned we do have cloud based applications. We also have some courses on behavior on the cloud for example remote team management, online fundraising, choosing the right CRM database so I think it's difficult to differentiate cloud and on premise in terms of the actual application. But there are, there are a number of courses if you're looking at behaviors and how to use those applications for general operations inside you're not in profit. Thank you for that. Mona, I think I. Thank you for having related security and strategy that's, that is a big topic and I'm glad that we do have courses coming up on that and definitely there is plan to do more so thank you for that. Thank you for that acknowledgement. I think where we do have time for more questions and this is the pop up in chat or in the Q&A section will continue to answer those. I wanted to take time to acknowledge all of you for being here with us and sitting through our presentation, putting in your insights, putting in your questions. And as a thank you for attending we do have a special discount for you as well so we do have, we recently launched three excellent Adobe courses, which are our most recent courses. And we would like to offer a 10% discount to each of you that has attended this webinar today. Please use discount code Adobe 10 web to purchase any of our three new Adobe courses. We are very proud of these newest courses that we have and we sure hope that you will register for these courses and utilize them and find them engaging and helpful to you as well. So that's it. I think that we have for today. Thank you very much everyone for joining us being with us. And if you do have any questions, please email us at learn at techsoup.org. We'll be happy to hear from you and help you in any way that we can. Thank you for being here. Enjoy the rest of your week.