 This edition of the WB Mason postgame Bob Lorenz and Jack Curry with you final count of this one for nothing raised first time the Yankees have been shut out this season the offense could get nothing going against raised pitching and Domingo Hermann couldn't really get anything going either. Yeah this was a stale and sleepy performance across the board by the Yankees Bob and you start with Hermann because the pitcher always sets the tone he ended up going four innings gave up four runs and he was just uneven today didn't have great stuff didn't have location with his stuff but Hermann was not the sole reason the Yankees lost four runs should not be insurmountable and with the Yankee offense today it felt that way Bob they had one runner reach third base they were 0 for 9 with runners on base their last 18 at bats of the game they managed one hit so after the raise punched against Hermann the Yankee offense was just supposed to be a strength of this team did not have a counter punch. We mentioned it on the pregame the fact that the Yankees had lost eight of their last nine and over that span average is 2.7 runs per game so far this season for the Yankees offense in eight games five runs or fewer in six of those games just an average of a home run per game a 2 17 average with runners in scoring position today 0 for 4 with runners in scoring position mainly Jack because they could not get that traffic that they're seeking. Yeah just a lot of vacant at bats and the raise had a deal with an injury and Chris Archer and when you're the team who loses its starter early in the game to an injury you're the team that's supposed to scramble you're the team that's supposed to be on the defensive instead it was the raise who are almost on the offensive with their pitching. Every picture that they brought in seemed to have an answer for the Yankees and there's a lot of blame and maybe that's not the word because it's so early in the season but there's a lot of places to point to and I look at the three four five hitters in the lineup today for the Yankees Hicks Stanton and Torres on the season they're a combined 17 for 88 a 193 batting average they're much better hitters than that they're just not showing it through these first eight games and it's really hurting the Yankees. You know as far as offense goes when they're playing well we really applaud them for their at bats and grinding out at bats and making pitchers work we haven't seen that these two games so far in Tampa. We haven't and I look at Torres as an example today he had four at bats for the Yankees now there are going to be games this year where Glabor Torres is going to first pitch swing and he's going to hit a four hundred and twenty foot home run and we're going to credit him we're going to say smart hitting he was thinking fastball he went deep today and those four at bats he saw seven pitches twice he was out on the first pitch of the at bat. I'm not saying that every day you have to try and work a three to count a la Aaron judge but there are days where you have to try and make a picture work and you have to have smart and timely at bats and it just didn't feel as if the Yankees had that against the Rays at all today they'll look to try and salvage a game tomorrow but you mentioned how much they struggle in this ballpark you mentioned how much they struggle against the Rays it's frightfully early in the season but this was your chance to remind the Rays that hey we think we're the team to beat in the AL East this season and instead the Razor had lost four in a row before the Yankees arrived they look like they're the team once again that kind of has this hex over the Yankees