 Can you hear me? I don't think I can hear you. Yeah, now I hear you. Okay, great. I was pretending I was going to be able to do something about it, but. Yeah. Who knows. Oh, we've got a lot more security this time. We're away, right? Pardon me. You're on vacation. I was in Panama. Yes. That was wonderful. Great. Fabulous. I have neighbors who live in Amherst, six months of the year and in Panama, six months a year. So I went and visited them. All right. I did. So you've been to Panama. I have only once years ago. It was fun. Yeah, I loved it. Yeah. They took me all over. It was great. Yeah. Well, not all, but we saw a lovely beach and. They live near Boqueta, which is a beautiful area. It must be great. Yes, exactly. And who are very well connected in the community they live in. So that was cool. He's not feeling well. I will just full disclosure. I am also not feeling well. Three days into my. COVID quarantine. Oh, a little room up by myself. Oh, it's not fun. I've been there. So I can't really complain. I think my husband has. Becky, it's very, you're very faint. Am I hard to hear? Yes. And you fade in and out a little bit. All right, let me see. I don't know if that's because you're sick or just your technology. I'm also. Technology is sick. Right. My technology is sick too. Usually that means it's awesome though, right? Microphones and just see if it's contagious. No. No, it's not any different. I should probably get those. I know what to do about it. If I lean in, is it better? Well, you can. Yeah, I tried turning up my volume, but I can hear Lucas with no trouble, but Becky's hard for me to hear. I'm going to try not to do that much talking. So maybe that'll be okay. Me too. Oh, Greg is here. I see him. Great. So we're all here. Okay, I mean, I'll promote him to panelists. Yeah. And I think we're all set. Right. Sorry, Nate, I don't know if you did send out the zoom link earlier. I just couldn't find it. That's all right. Yeah. I can't remember either. We definitely got it. Living proof right here. So are we already, have we started already? Nate, because I see that we're recording already. We did. Yeah, it's 702. Okay, so I'm going to go ahead and read the things to get us started then. And just, and I had emailed with Greg earlier and said, since he's not feeling great, that he should absolutely feel free to keep his video off. And I'm envious that he is because I have to have mine off. So let me read our thing to get started. All right, the time is now 702 and seen as a quorum of committee members is in attendance. This public hearing is being called to order. Welcome everybody to the February 2nd, 2022 public hearing of the Amherst community development block grant advisory committee. Pursuant to chapter 20 of the acts of 2021 and extended by the state legislature on July 16th of 2022. This meeting is being conducted virtually using the zoom platform. The meeting is being recorded and minutes are being taken as usual. So we've already been chatting a little bit, but I guess I'll officially do a roll call to make sure everybody's working here in this present. Lucas, can you, I see who can you speak. Yes, hi. I'm here. All right. Here present. Great Suzanne. Not. Virtually presents. And Greg. Great. Okay. So the primary purpose of this meeting tonight is to receive feedback from the community on the decisions that we made at our last meeting. And I just want to note for those in attendance. That even though Lucas and Rika weren't present at our last meeting, we did have their rankings and we use those. And they really did help to inform the decisions that we ended up making in the end. I know that Nate made the decisions that we had made public. So the community should have had an opportunity to review them, but we'll also screen share them tonight so people can take a look at them. And so as I said, our primary purpose tonight, because this is a public hearing is to hear from the, from the public and what you'd like to say, we will limit people to three minutes per organization. If you want to speak. And. If you want to speak, why don't we get started and also actually for those of you who weren't here last time, I'll just say again that we are able now when people speak. And you're able to come in and we can actually see you on camera, which is great for us. So we can really just have a better back and forth. So if you're comfortable turning your, your camera on when you come in, please do. And if you're not, that's fine as well. But I think we'll go, we can go ahead and get started. I'll just jump in quickly. Hi, everyone. I'm Nate. I'm a planner with the town. I help staff the CDBG committee. So this is a required public hearing to, as Becky said, have the public comment on the recommendations. I'll share my screen in a minute. The, the recommendations that committee made earlier this, or earlier last month were shared with the town manager's office and they supported them. So there were no changes from what was recommended. By the committee. That block grant application just for processes due at the. On March 3rd or earlier, March 3rd is the latest. They're encouraging earlier applications, but that's doubtful. So we do have a, you know, we can submit them earlier, but I have a feeling I won't get, I won't be done until, until March 3rd. So, you know, this is, could be the last chance for comments. And yeah, and that's, I guess we can have hands raised. I know one member said they might need to leave early. Lori, I see you're here. I don't know if you want to raise your hand. Just. Usually we wouldn't jump. I see one hands raised, but I just want to make sure that we did get notice that someone may have to leave early. So. I'm going to promote you to panelists and then you can, you can speak. That's how you want to do it back. Is that usually what we'd have them. Yes. Thank you for welcoming me. I really appreciate it. Cause I did have another commitment. I sent a statement, which Nate suggested. I think it's a good idea. I think it's a good idea. I think it's a good idea. I think it might be helpful. I don't know if anyone has seen it, but I just wanted to acknowledge you for the really thoughtful process because I feel like you honored the mission and the intention of this funding, which is to fund programs along a spectrum honoring the towns. You know, statement of priorities. And I feel like you did that. And I recognize that these choices are very difficult. And I recognize that you're looking at how many constituents that you have. And I just want to assure you that even a modest investment in our program leverages so much additional progress. So we are grateful for being considered. We hope that that decision stands. And we promise you that if it does, you will see amazing impact from your investment. Thank you. Anybody have any questions? Thank you so much, Lori. All right. So Judith, your hands raised. I'll promote you to panelists. And then you can speak. Hi, I'm Judith Roberts. I'm the director of the literacy project. And I know that the literacy project was not recommended for funding this year, but I wanted to join the meeting. I'm funding for next year. Sorry. I wanted to join the meeting and say thank you for your good work. I'm so excited to be here. I'm glad to be here in the MRS. We've, we've had a great year and we've been. We've been able to add lots of students. We have a waiting list now for our classes in the MRS. And so it's been a great year for us. And also add programming. We have a memoir writing project. So once again, I wanted to thank you and also I know it's, you have to make hard choices and we work collaboratively with Center for New Americans and have immense respect for their work. And so that's all, and we'll be back to reapply in a couple. I think it's two year period. Correct. Okay. So I appreciate the work of the committee. Thank you. Thank you. So gracious and nice to hear. Thank you. And actually, I will just take this opportunity to say that I was asking Nate earlier about what are the kinds of things that we can do kind of between grant cycles, if anything, and he was saying that in addition to having current grantees come and report on what's going on, we can also do site visits at different times if it works in different places. So I think that's something that quite a few of us would be interested in doing. And so hopefully we'll get to come and maybe observe or just kind of see what you're doing firsthand. And Judith, just quickly, you said that someone from the program might be attending. So I don't know if, if you know if they're here. She, she couldn't make it her child was sick. So sorry about that. Thank you, Nate. Sure. Yeah. Understand that. We're going to make you back to an attendee and then have someone else. Speak. All right. Susan, you're, we'll be promoted to panelists. Hi, I'm Susan, the Castro from big brothers and sisters of Hampshire County. And yeah, I just wanted to thank the committee with all my heart for recommending us for an award for the continued support of this funding, this funding makes such a critical difference with the work that we can do to bring mentoring to big, some littles in the Amherst community. And yeah, this funding is just, you know, just incredibly instrumental in the work that we do. And we see it, you know, more and more of a need for mentoring in Amherst and we're just very proud to be the primary mentoring provider. And yes, I just really wanted to recognize the great work of the committee for reviewing our application for selecting us for funding. And yeah, we're incredibly grateful. So just on behalf of our staff, our constituents and our advisory board just wanted to send all their thanks and appreciation for all the wonderful work that you're doing and just making such a difference for what we're able to do with our continued work with mentoring. So thank you all so much. Thank you. And thank you for all of your work. Thanks. It's really appreciated being part of the last meeting, especially to seeing how much thoughtfulness and care that the committee is putting into the responsibility of implementing this funding and, you know, the tough decisions that you all have to make. So just really, really recognize all of the incredible efforts that you all are doing to make this happen for our community. So thank you again. Thank you. Thanks for letting us know. Oh, absolutely. All right. You can join as a panelist in a minute or a second. Sorry, I think two and a half years. Thank you so much for having me. Similarly, I'd like to extend my appreciation to the committee for your thoughtful deliberation. I wasn't able to make it to the meeting a few weeks ago, but I was really glad to a little watch the recording and get a sense of the review and the considerations. And just the, the reading process and criteria that the committee was using. Thank you so much for that thoughtful deliberation. I wanted to use my time today to share a bit of an update on the current status of the food pantry at the emmer survival center and what we're seeing in terms of rising need. Because things have shifted, frankly, even from the time of the application. And I will be blunt. The increase in need that we're seeing over the last several months is staggering. We have rock solid volunteers. We have an incredible staff team and we have an organizational infrastructure that is light years more efficient than it was a few years ago and yet we're really, really stretched. I was very grateful to learn that the initial recommendation from this committee kept our funding roughly level. And I very well recognize that there are highly limited funds in the community. And I think that's an amazing plethora of incredibly important work that our food pantry participants also access in all those different ways. So I recognize that an increase beyond this current level is unlikely. That would be wonderful, but I really respectfully want to advocate to please not reduce below the current level. I think food security in our community is both deeply important to the community. I think that the community is very important to the community. I think it's also important to the community who is impacted, the trauma, the fear, the physical and mental health impacts. And it is also really a problem of scale. One that can kind of only really be understood in the context of the numbers. And I'll acknowledge, I think I sometimes struggle to share that personal story because it feels like there's so much similarity and also so much uniqueness in each of those things. I helped a pantry shopper go through who just went through the pantry the other day. And as they were pushing out the cart, they kind of mumbled, if it wasn't for this, my family would not survive. And it was what really struck me. I hear things like that all the time, frankly, but what really struck me was the degree of matter of factness with which they said it. They were pushing their cart out the door. It wasn't a profuse statement of gratitude. It was their reality. And I think that's what really struck me. I mean, I don't know if it's because of the groceries at the food pantry means that they're up to date on their electric bell or that their house is warm because they can pay for their heat. Or that they know that their kids are getting a nutritious breakfast before they head off to school. And so they can concentrate in class and they have food to welcome them when they come home. I know that my time is almost up. But I want to briefly just give a cat, but I think that's what really struck me. I think that the motivation among Amherst residents is really through the roof. Every one of our last six months has met or exceeded our highest pandemic surges. So we're seven months into our current CDBG contract and we have served 1,968 Amherst residents in the food pantry. That's 98% of our goals for the 12 month year. And it's 33% more than we served in the same timeframe. And that's 32% more than two years before that. So I just want to really, I want to let the committee know what an important investment this is at this time with the rising need that we're seeing within the Amherst community. The current CDBG funding recommendation breaks down to $25 total per Amherst resident served for an entire year of food delivery. And that's $25 total per Amherst resident served for an entire year of food pantry access and less than 10 cents per meal worth of groceries that will be provided to each Amherst resident. So it feels like it's a, Yeah, the current CDBG funding recommendation breaks down to $25 total per Amherst resident served over the course of a year. So $25 for an individual to be able to access up to two weeks of groceries every month for 12 months. For $25 that comes out to less than 10 cents per meal for the groceries that are provided to Amherst residents. So I just recognize that I think sometimes in discussing of this, the, this. I wonder sometimes like, can, or folks grasping the scale at which the pantry is being used, especially currently with the need that we're seeing. We're really looking at that a community level investment in helping our community to be more of food secure and helping each and every family and individual knowing that they have some place to turn. So it feels like we're, we're at a precipice of actually really needing to do a lot more to be able to meet that need to expand access. We're considering options to be able to serve more people than we currently have the capacity to, frankly. And so I want to respectfully request that the committee maintain their current recommendations certainly through this process. Because we're, we're at a bit of a tipping point, I think. Thank you for sharing that. Did you have a question now. Yes, I'm, thank you for the update, love. It's actually kind of astounding that you're seeing that increase and I'm glad you're able to meet that need as well as you are. But, you know, what do you see as the reason for that increase or other government programs expiring running out, or is it like new people moving in with these needs or what. Yeah. I think that the number one, sorry for that light glare in the background. I think that the number one issue is the rising cost of food at the grocery store and of all other expenses to meet basic needs. And so especially for households who are living on very low incomes that are already very stretched when all of your income is going towards those essentials and those are the things where we've seen the most significant price hikes and there's nothing discretionary to cut out. That's really significant hardship. So we're both seeing a rise in current regular pantry shoppers coming back for more. We started in October offering the second monthly fresh boost shop, which gives people a whole nother shop of produce and eggs and milk and cheese. We're seeing good utilization of that. We're also seeing a real increase. I don't have the numbers in front of me of people coming back for what we call emergency shops, which you can come back as often as you need to for just a little bit. And I don't have the numbers in front of me of people. I don't have the numbers in front of me of people. The staples and shelf stable milk. So I think those costs are most significant. But I appreciate you asking the, another very significant factor is that. In March. Is when pandemic snap will end. And we are. It would take me a minute to find that number. I meant to have it ready. And I don't, I don't know what they're going to do in a couple months. So that's part of our. Planning is. Impacting a very significant number of. Amherst residents. And we're hearing that people are coming and already speaking about that they don't know what they're going to do in a couple months. So that's part of our. Planning is trying to figure out that we're already seeing these increase in need. And then. Our anticipating a further rise. Within the next couple of months. We're going to be able to do that. We're going to be able to do that. We're going to be able to do that. We're going to be able to do that. I just closed the thing that had that number, but I'm happy to either share it in about 30 seconds, or I can email the committee to follow up because I do think that snap changes is a really important one. Well, maybe when, when we do do our, our meeting later in the spring with updates on how things are going now. You know, we'll get an update then. And actually that will probably be into the time when, when the benefits have ended. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Is that an answer to your question? Yeah, that's, that's very helpful. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, I muted myself too. So. I said, I'll make you an attendee again. Well, someone else speak. Thanks. Lauren. You can. Come on over as a. Panelist. There we are. I'm on. I'm speaking as a resident and I just had a brief. Prepared. I'm going to turn my camera off because. Sometimes it's better to hear me. Can you still hear me? Yes. As an individual and resident of Amherst. You know what, Lauren, you're coming in and out a little bit. Okay. I'll try to. Whatever you just did, that's better. I am making this comment in behalf of. Myself as a resident of Amherst for six years. I would like to request. The town to use community development block grant funding. To develop a process to bring about a cultural youth. Economic development empowerment center. Based on a feasibility study that has gathered data and work of new. Of the new press department. CSSJ committee. And continued requests and recommendations of the former CSWG. That is in the town's development strategy document. Which states it was an integral. Part in, in bringing about press. Also public health departments. Have conducted community assessments. As well as other community groups and projects. That can provide insight to the needs of low and moderate income residents. A resident. Virtual recent, sorry. A recent virtual form of the school of public health. Entitled insecure housing. Homelessness and health. Focus groups from these experiencing. Focus groups from those experiencing homelessness wanted to see. The following improvements. One adequate housing options. One. Dignity based services. And the end to practices that criminalized homelessness. Taking pride in being the place where. Three major colleges reside. Amherst should be taking into account the educational. And equity improvements needed. Of its diverse students in elementary, middle and high school. M. This particular goal of providing a bill hood. Amherst needs to support youth clearly with an actual center. To provide peer to peer services. Community projects. Business and cultural initiatives to ensure. That growing trends of homelessness among young adults. Is not increasing, but a downward trend. And. Thank you, Lauren, um, thank you for those comments. Um, so I'll just explain the Nate, just please jump in if I'm just to clarify the, um, what we're able to do is give money to grants that people who apply to us. So the organizations that apply or for town projects that apply. Um, and, you know, I think we would all love to see an application that that included the, um, the youth center. I think 1 of the, um, and would obviously look at it as carefully as it any, is it any of the other. Grants or requests that come our way 1 of the, I think hurdles for the, for this committee, this particular committee to fund that program is that there has to, it has to primarily. Serve low and moderate, moderate income families, and that's part of the, what the federal government requires for it. And so it would mean that anybody going to the center would have to, I think, fill out some sort of an income. We'd have to track essentially who is using the program to prove that it was being used for low and moderate income families primarily. And I don't think that's what the youth center is for. In its mission is my understanding and not necessarily information that anybody wants to be collecting from people as they're coming in, which doesn't mean that it can't happen. But I think that's 1 of my understanding is that that's 1 of the reasons that. This, this particular committee hasn't been looked at as a place for money to support that particular initiative. But I agree with you that we should have 1, and, and if, if there's some way that that CDBG monies could be used to support a program like that, or programs that are happening within it. Once it's built, we would absolutely welcome seeing, you know, proposals coming this way and reviewing them. I really appreciate you coming. Thank you. I hope everybody feels better. Thank you. Take care. Stay warm. Alright, we have a few more hands raised or actually just one right now. Tim, you're being promoted a panelist. Hi, everyone. My name is Tim. I'm the executive director of Craig's doors. Lauren, if you're still on the call, please don't hesitate to shoot me an email at Tim at Craig's doors.org. I know quite a bit of what you were discussing was support for families who might be facing homelessness and we have a ton of resources and Lots of ambition at potentially assisting in that space. So I wanted to jump on and thank this committee with all of the gratitude in my being. If I appear a little bit exhausted. If you guys aren't hit. We're going to get a pretty severe cold snap life threatening cold snap. So for the last 20 or so hours. I've been doing out. We have been performing outreach to the encampments into any individual sleeping rough and working in conjunction with Cress and with the APD and AFD To get folks into our building. We were provided a 15 bed expansion in capacity, which is amazing. Thank you to town hall. And we've also put up about 25 people into emergency hotel stays through Sunday. So lots of lives. Improved, I would dare to say safe. So that's super exciting. I know that Cress had come up earlier as well. We're really working in conjunction with them and sort of serving as their homeless arm and really Providing more robust case management and so many of these focuses are dedication to to dignity focused service delivery and our humanistic lens. We are undergoing a rapid training curriculum that includes trauma informed care harm reduction measures de-escalation processes. We are working with the Center for Human Development to collect data among all of our hotel stays so that we can lobby and advocate the state for more funding for inclement weather next year. And hopefully as of next week, we will be distributing bus passes to all of our guests for the next six months they'll have unlimited capacity to drive the PV to ride the PVTA For whatever they may need. And again, all of these initiatives are informed and made possible by the support of the town By this committee in particular and having your support this year for the first time under our new administration Is just, I don't really have words. It's incredible. It means so, so much to the young group of folks that I work with who are so passionate and so dedicated and just dying to get fully stabilized and to continue innovating And it's just a real honor to be an Amherst and to be a benefactor of all of your hard work. So, I guess I just wanted to say thank you so much. Thank you. And thank you for your hard work. It's really cool that your guests have to drive the buses to know. I feel like our decision making pales in comparison to the hard work that that you do and that everybody that works in these organizations does. So, you're welcome. And thank you for Yeah, you guys are amazing civil leaders one last plug on Sunday, the fifth in Springfield is the first ever winter walk to end homelessness the first ever Western Massachusetts winter walk to end homelessness. It is at nine o'clock and on the other side of the state this has been an institution for several years, and it ends up bringing in hundreds of thousands of dollars in support for organizations like ours. So this is the inaugural year we're not expecting that sort of turnout. But if you want to come get a free Craig's doors winter hat big is our first merch drop ever come and and show up and and have some fun with us. And again, thank you all so much. Thank you, Tim. Have a good night. Thanks, Tim. So I don't see anybody else's hands raised if anybody else does want to come on in. Feel free to raise your hand. Francine now has her hand raised. Yeah, so quickly while Francine is joining yet with Tim was mentioning the Western mass network and homelessness it's on the website is Western mass housing first or they have assuming they have information on it to get an email from them but if anyone's interested that it might it might be there. Hi Francine. Hi, how are you. Thank you for having me. I just quickly I wasn't at the last meeting but first of all, sorry, my name's Francine Rodriguez. I work at CHD's family outreach of hammers and the committee has prioritized us for our housing program and I wish I was at the last meeting because Laura attended and she was, she just was really excited and I, that was the one time I didn't go and I was there. You can enjoy the experience. I know I know in my case I go back and watch these over and over again. Work on your end. Right. How do I look. So, initially I just want to thank the committee for for prioritizing how housing in Amherst and understanding that that it is a critical need in Amherst along with all of the other agencies that are doing wonderful absolutely wonderful work and we collaborate with all of them to keep our residents happy, healthy, housed and fed. And I know our program has taken like a shift where usually just residents were approaching us and because we're doing great work landlords are now calling directly they're calling me directly saying can you help my tenant, can you help this tenant, which I think is amazing because landlords are seeing that, you know, they, a lot of these are big corporations they don't have control over the rental increases. And one landlord recently reached out because her tenants, the rental increases, the company she works for, and the tenants that have Section 8 vouchers, they're not approving the increase. And then they said to her when she's trying to advocate, they just said, well, they have to move, they have to find somewhere else to move that falls into the payment standard. And that means finding somewhere definitely out of Amherst, of course, and most of these folks have lived in Amherst the whole life and their kids attend the schools and they don't want, you know, it's heartbreaking to have to think I have to move to Springfield or the Holy Oak, nothing against Springfield or the Holy Oak, but, you know, you're changing your whole environment and it's, you know, Amherst is a really strong welcoming community. And it's sad that, you know, the rental hikes are just moving forcing people to move because people don't want to move. But I'm just grateful that you understand the need, the housing need and the crisis that we're facing. And, you know, the rental increase, I mean, it's just ridiculous but it's out of all of our control, unfortunately. But I do appreciate that the town of Amherst does see it, it does understand it, and it's trying to like build more affordable housing, and is really upfront on keeping families in Amherst, you know, you're not ignoring it, you know that's an issue and you're doing the best you can to keep it a priority for the town of Amherst and to keep families here. So I appreciate that you guys recognize that and support the work that we're doing. So I just want to say thank you for prioritizing housing in Amherst. Thank you Francine. Thank you. Perfect, honey. Do you have any questions? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Becky. I just want to make sure nobody has any questions or anything for Francine. Okay. Thank you and thank you for your work. Thank you. Good night. I end up again. Hi, Tim, we'll, we'll let you back in. Hey, I'm sorry guys super quick update. Nate the link you were looking for is winter walk.org. Oh, great. That's all I wanted to make sure everybody had it. Thanks so much. Great, thank you. So I think with no other hands raised, we can just start our discussion and if people want to chime in, they can raise their hands again. But essentially, I think this is our opportunity to decide if we have any reason to change our original decisions or for good with sticking with what we've got. And I would say we should stick with what we've got. I think we put a ton of thought into it. We've been doing this for hours and hours and listened and read and made really tough decisions. And so I would recommend that we stick with that and happy to hear from other people if you agree or just to go back to what you or Nate said earlier so you did meet with the town manager and, and where's that not yet. Okay, so we, I sent the recommendations to the time manager's office I met with Dave and communicate with Paul and so they supported the recommendations. Okay. Yeah, I think you know moving forward there's always discussions about, you know, what Amherst fund five social services, you know there isn't, it's not a requirement it's something that become practice. You know, I know the committee is always often asked, you know, do we wait certain criteria differently and I think, you know, that's always a possibility you know for the next funding cycle so you know I think, you know back in our saying that we have a little bit of time, and maybe we give you know the committee, we will need to meet next month to hold a public hearing to review current activities but then we could take a break for a few months. You know, start planning for the next cycle with enough, you know time to have good public outreach and, you know, things needed to change in terms of how we develop the request for proposals we give ourselves that opportunity. I feel like sometimes you're always rushing right we get through an application process we'd have a few months then we'd almost have to start all over again for the next cycle and so it's nice to have. And although it's not great for everyone that it's a two year grant and there's a little bit of a lag it gives us a little bit of time to, to, you know, maybe, you know, have some ideas about how to structure things differently. So yes I, you know that's a long answer to say yes I met with them. Well I would suggest that we stay with the recommendations as submitted, I think was a good process and even though I wasn't there for the meeting I, you know, reviewed the applications and I'm really pleased where we ended up so I hope we can stay there. Order, you know what I don't have the agenda in front of me. So do we have other orders of business or is it, can we just set a date maybe for the next public hearing. Yeah I mean, you know we had the, you know, if there are any comments, or any reasons to talk about target areas or the strategy we could it doesn't seem like there's, that's necessary. Other than the announcements, other than the grants do and mark by March 3. The town's application to the state so yeah I don't have anything else I mean we could try to set another meeting. So just you know for everyone we have to have a public hearing to review current activities. And so this would be to review the 21 activities. So Ben had one in the fall but you know it's easy enough to schedule one in mid to late March. I don't remember having one in the fall. Yeah, or may not have been. But why don't we schedule that and would it be at that time that we would talk about possibly doing a site site visits or the organizations could include in their, in their updates whether that's something that would be feasible. I think we should be able to do that. Yeah, that could work. We could do this we could have the hearing in early April as well quarterly reports are doing April. I'm not sure it is. Let's do it in whatever ways the easiest for the organizations I mean if they're writing their quarterly reports why don't we do it right after those are due maybe so that they can just. Does that make sense, rather than having to pull together information twice. Yeah, that's what they've submitted so that you know that was just to mid April then. Okay. I mean the week of April 17 I don't, you know I don't really have any. Is that that works for me I don't know whether there's school vacation week since I don't have kids in school anymore. Yeah, it's a school vacation week. So, should we try for the like the 13th that work for people. April 13 looks good. When did the quarterly reports do Nate is it after before then. The reports are due by the 10th from organizations and then we submit them to the state by the 15 so you know the information would already be developed by the organizations and the grantees so. So why don't we, it's 13th good for everyone. Yes, okay. Yes. So seven or seven again, right. And we're going to continue to meet via zoom. Well, good question. I'll know more at some point. I'll get you well. It happened actually the other year where we had a week and a half where there was the laps and executive order and whatever and so I had to be in a schedule I think it was a, I don't know if I think it was actually a block ran meeting we schedule that both as in person and over zoom. Yeah. And so, you know, if getting closer to the April date it seems like there isn't a clear answer I mean, I would rather just push the hearing back or something. Rather than guests, you know if we have to do a public notice in typically, you know, 10 days to two weeks beforehand and if it's really not clear. I think we need to schedule it. I, you know, we can just email and figure out another date just because I don't hate to say let's do it over zoom and then it changes and we can and it has to be in person and we haven't noticed it correctly or something so. Okay. We'll just assume zoom unless you tell us otherwise. Yeah, I'm keeping my fingers crossed a little bit just it's convenient. We've got this down. It's so convenient for everybody who wants to attend also to just be able to do their thing. Well in that I mean, and ironically, you know ironically but the always amazed to see when I look online sometimes to see how many views the committee meetings get after they've been posted to the town's website and it's pretty amazing that after you know sometimes a few weeks that might have like 20 or 30 views. You know some might be just me. Well, it's a nice opportunity though to be able to watch what's happened as opposed to, you know, maybe read minutes that come out. Yeah, quite a bit after the fact. Great, great. Anything else. I like to thank the committee too I think you know it's it is a lot on, you know, volunteer members to review and prioritize proposals that pretty in depth and we asked a lot so I thank you for going through that I know some of you this is also your, you know, your first go around and so I think it was a really nice process and you know I hopefully you feel the same way and if there are any questions from committee members you can always email me or Becky and we can try to help for next time. I think one of the things that we'll think about going forward is, you know, whether we want to do a survey again whether we want to do it differently or publicize it differently and sort of think about, you know, getting that out there more. And we can, you know, we have some time to talk that through. And also I think we do need more committee members so if anybody knows anybody who would be a great asset. I think we will. Yeah, it's, it's okay to recruit or talk to your talk to someone about it. We still have to go through the interview process. So, they do great. Great. I guess I will call the meeting to close. All right. All right. Thank you. I hope you all feel better. Becky and Greg. Yes, they warm. Yes, they were warm and get well. Yes. Bye bye. Bye. Good night.