 Good afternoon. Good evening to people all around the world. Thank you very much for joining us for this webinar event on the new World Migration Report, the 2022 edition. My name is Mari McAuliffe. I have the privilege of heading up the Migration Research Division and editing the World Migration Report series. And I'm delighted that you can join us for the first webinar event, probably one of many that will be done in the future. And this is really to provide an overview of the World Migration Report 2022 and also to hear from some of our partners in regards to some of the tools that have been developed to support the use of the World Migration Report. Before turning to our speakers, I would like to welcome our Deputy Director General of Operations. We've got she Daniels who will provide some welcome remarks for us for the webinar event. As you may know, DDG Daniels joined us this year on the 1st of September. She is a senior executive with more than 27 years of diverse managerial experience with donor United Nations entities, academia as well as in the private sector. She Daniels was named a shero of the United Nations for championing women's health needs in humanitarian emergencies and her career with the United Nations spans almost two decades. As you may know, prior to joining IOM. The DDG was the Chief of Staff at the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees. And she was also previously the United Nations resident coordinator and designated official for security in the Islamic Republic of Iran. We are delighted that the DDG could join us. She has a very busy schedule. So I may not be able to stay online for too long but thank you so much DDG. The floor is yours. I think you're still muted, DDG, sorry. Adrian, can you help with that? Yes, I apologize for that. Two years into COVID and I'm still battling with, can you hear me now? No, but thank you so much, Marie, for the very kind introduction. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening to colleagues online. Of course, it's my pleasure and delight to be here today to open the public virtual event on our flagship publication of the International Organization for Migration, The World Migration Report for 2022. I'm also delighted to see so many people online. It's not just me that has a busy schedule. You all do as well. So we're extremely honored that you found the time to join. This new edition of the World Migration Report is perhaps the most important than ever before given the uncertainty we have experienced for nearly two years. The COVID pandemic has triggered a mobility worldwide to an extent unseen in recent history, slowing the pace of human mobility and migration. The United Nations estimated that there were some 281 million international migrants in the world in 2020, representing just under 4% of the global population. That is a small minority of the world's population as the majority of people stay within their country of birth. The COVID pandemic has also highlighted the interconnections between migration and mobility. COVID-19 restrictions resulted in hundreds of millions of people being unable to travel for months on end and leaving many thousands of migrants stranded and in need of assistance. Understanding the complexity of migration was already challenging before the pandemic, and it has been even further exacerbated very unfortunately by misinformation and politicization to alarming degrees with false information circulating on migrants as spreaders of the virus. But at the same time, and in sharp contrast, we've seen migrants bravely on the front line, delivering essential services and supporting their families back home to cope with the economic impact of the pandemic by sending international remittances. The central aim of the World Migration Report is to set out in clear and accurate terms the changes occurring in migration and mobility globally so that readers, that's all of you, can better situate their own work. As the UN Migration Agency, IOM has an obligation to demystify the complexity and diversity of human mobility. The report acknowledges IOM's continuing obligation to uphold fundamental rights and its mission to support migrants who are most in need. It is particularly relevant in the areas of the world, which IOM works to improve humanitarian assistance to people who have been displaced, including by weather events, due to conflict and persecution, or to those who have become stranded during crises, such as in COVID-19. As we set out in our constitution, migration research forms an integral part of IOM's functions, and IOM remains committed to supporting member states as they draw upon data, research and analysis during policy formulation and review processes. The World Migration Report is a flagship component of this important area of work. As IOM said, we also know that the key features of migration vary across different locations, and that specific audiences have varying information and analytical needs when using the report to inform their work. So, IOM has developed a range of digital tools supplementing the World Migration Report so that the report does not remain on the virtual shelf. Today's virtual event will thus be structured along two main sessions. In the first session, we will be pleased to have two editors of the World Migration Report presenting key findings of the report, namely Marie herself. Marie Marie McCullough is the head of IOM's Migration Research Division, and we're also very pleased that Anna Trienne Daphili Odu, and I'm real apologies for that, I gave it my best shot, Professor and Canada Excellence Research Chair in Migration and Integration from Ryerson University. The second session will be devoted to the digital tools supplementing the report, starting with the award-winning online interactive platform that allows users to explore and interact with key data in a highly visual and engaging way. I highly, highly recommend that you interact and use this data, not because we want an award for it, but that's a testament to Marie and her team, but more importantly, so that the data is in a, and it's analysis is in the, as user-friendly a format as possible for your data needs. The other tools will be, and the other tools that will be presented are all tailored to specific audiences of the report, a World Migration Fact Checkers Toolkit, assisting fact checkers to bust key myths on migration, a World Migration Educators Toolkit to support teachers around the world as they seek to provide balanced, accurate, and interesting material on the fundamentals of migration and migrants for teenagers and young adults, as well as a World Migration Digital Toolkit for policy officials to support policy officers in leveraging migration research for evidence-based policymaking. The second session will be devoted to the digital tools supplementing the report that I've just outlined, starting again, I get to mention our award-winning online interactive platform that allows users to explore and interact with key data in a highly visual and engaging way. IOM is very deeply committed to multi-stakeholder collaboration, and we are pleased to be joined today by some of our external partners with whom we are collaborating for the development of these tools, including the International Baccalaureate, the Geneva Science-Based Policy Interface, and the Global Migration Center from the Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies. Extending the utility and reach of our flagship report is a particularly gratifying aspect of the evolution of IOM's role and contribution to the migration discourse globally. As we celebrate IOM's 70th anniversary and reflecting on the ongoing need for IOM's strong operational capabilities, it is worth recalling that IOM has been one of the longest-standing supporters and producers of migration research and analysis. It established the first scientific journal on international migration in 1961, that's even before I was born, and its World Migration Report series more than two decades ago. We thus hope that the World Migration Report 2022 and its related tools will become a key resource for you and help you to navigate this high profile and dynamic topic during periods of uncertainty while prompting reflections during your quieter moments. Let me express again my sincere thanks to all of you for attending today's event, and without further ado, let me give the floor back to our dear Marie. Thank you so much, DDG. Really delighted, of course, that you could make time in your busy schedule. You're right, we were all busy, but you are busier than most, that is for sure, to provide the welcome remarks and to give that overview in the sessions. We are delighted to be joined by so many different people and partners, and most especially for the first session, Anna and I will be taking you through the key highlights from the chapters. It is a long report and it does take two years to develop. The DDG yesterday joked that we were already working on the 2024 edition, but actually we already are. As everybody knows, I started the day before I started on Tuesday working on that thinking about it. But I'm delighted to be working with a very large team, a global team, supported by internal collaborators and external collaborators, right the way across the board and today is the first taste of the World Migration Report and the key findings and key highlights. So the plan is that I will go through the first six chapters, and then Anna Triandaflodou will take us through the second half, the second six chapters, and then we'll go into session to talk about the toolkits and to talk about how we have extended the core content into make sure that we can get it into classrooms into boardrooms into offices and into camps and camp coordination sort of facilities all the way around the world. So let me first start by sharing my screen and then as we go through our presenters, I will introduce them and for their particular presentations and insights. Can you see my screen? And am I in presenters mode? Yes, great. Thanks Anna. I can see you. So very quickly we'll go through the first part of the World Migration Report that I've had the great delight to co-edit with Professor Anna Triandaflodou and Anna and I have been working for many years together collaborating and co-editing on various volumes. It was a real pleasure to be able to work with Anna on this edition of the World Migration Report. Very, very brief introduction about the series, which as the DDG mentioned, has been in place since the year 2000. And from the 2018 volume, we took a slightly different approach after reviewing the series and really focused on these four key areas, the strategic contribution, changing the focus from a single theme, which used to be the case for the World Migration Report series, into a two-part structure so that we could have key data and information on migration and migrants in the first part, and then thematic chapters looking at complex and emerging issues in the second part. We also extended our partnerships. We extended those both internally and externally, co-editing, co-authoring and also doing peer review with academia and also with IOM experts from all around the world to ensure the quality. Expectations very much focused on up-to-date, balanced, succinct contributions and also making sure that it is highly relevant to policy practice and also to research environments. And then, of course, our readership very much so is focused on policymakers and our member states in particular, but also practitioners, whether they may be working in the field, assisting and serving migrants in need, or whether they are in the media and communications, for example. Also focusing on analysts, researchers, students most definitely and the general public too. And here we are with the World Migration Report 2022. A very quick slide here which shows the table of contents. Anna and I have brought together an overview of the report in Chapter 1, really situating it in the context of technological, geopolitical and environmental transformations that are occurring. And then you can see Part 1 looks at key data and information, updates to the global overview, updates to the regional chapter, which is a report almost in and of its own right. Chapter 4, Migration Research and Analysis, with a particular focus this time on the United Nations contributions as we go into the International Migration Review Forum next year, for example. And of course the GCM, the global compact for safe orderly regular migration review processes and the network most especially. And then in part 2, these are the topics that we are looking at in much more detail and much more depth and we will take you through those in a moment. So in Chapter 1, the report overview, we really look at the state of migration since the release of the last World Migration Report, which was just before COVID-19 broke. And we look at what has happened in the last two years, especially around COVID-19 and the impacts on migration, on mobility and also on migrants. We spend some time exploring the technological change and also the environmental transformations that are underway. We present key facts and figures, particularly in the context of IOM's 70th anniversary, so we have a focus in the report on IOM turning 70 and what that has meant in terms of the growth and the evolution of the organization. And then we provide readers with some very succinct key facts and figures from the first report, as well as from this edition to be able to provide some historical and comparative analysis. In Chapter 2, and this is arguably, actually I think if we look at the data, it is our most cited chapter because we look at the breadth of international migration and migrants right the way through the spectrum from international migrant stock data, the latest data on international migrants globally, as well as on international migration and migration flows. We look at very specific migrant groups, for example, such as migrant workers utilizing the ILOs, latest data, as well as refugees and asylum seekers, and also spend some time looking at internal displacement and IDPs. And of course we draw on the very rich programmatic and operational data from IOM, such as missing migrants, unfortunately, continuing to be highly relevant at this point in time. We look at assisted voluntary return and reintegration programmatic data as well as resettlement and IOMs displacement tracking matrix, which of course is one of the key data sources for the global IDMC or internal displacement monitoring centers data set. In Chapter 3, this is an incredibly important chapter, I think, from a number of different perspectives because it provides great comparative analysis across the six UN regions, looking at a range of data outputs, very collaboratively designed with some of our data experts, both internal and external. And we look at key features and developments at the region and subregional level, especially over the last two years. Here we've got highlighted just some of the features of each subregion. So really looking at migration trends to within and from the region and then COVID-19. Of course there are many outputs on COVID-19. We have explored international remittances in this edition in more detail, including because of the global and regional trends, as well as refugees and asylum seekers and new internal displacements. I would encourage you to delve into Chapter 3. It is a very rich chapter. It's a huge collaborative process and many thanks to all the colleagues around the world from IOM, as well as our team who put this together. And it takes an extraordinary amount of work but the riches are certainly there to explore. In Chapter 4, Migration Research and Analysis, we really have looked this time for this edition at the recent United Nations contributions. And we're really delighted to be able to present this chapter, which is particularly critical, as I mentioned in terms of supporting and informing the International Migration Review Forum that will be on next year as part of the Global Compact for Safe Orderly Regular Migration. Now, Chapter 5. There has been a lot of tweeting on Chapter 5 today, I might say. Chapter 5 and the Great Disruptor. I tweeted jokingly with my co-authors, Felene Ferrer, Ron Skelder and Jenna Blower that it was the Great Disruptor in terms of being of an incredibly difficult chapter to write while we were still in the midst of the early stages of COVID-19. But COVID-19 also has affected, you know, all of us personally and professionally over the last two years. So my very sincere thanks to the co-authors and to Anna Triandafilidu to be able to get this as well as our reviewers. We had great reviewers for this chapter to be able to pull it together to look at the first 12 months of COVID-19 and its impacts on migration, mobility, and importantly on migrants as well. We have a very, it's a very long chapter and there are some really important findings and I would encourage you to explore the chapter, including the appendix, which has some really fantastic case studies that are put together on different country experiences really to show the diversity of country level experiences in regards to COVID-19 impacts. It's one that we will probably extend for the next edition of the World Migration Report to really take a stock taking exercise and have a look and see what's changed. I would say in the context of the latest strain it is continuing to be a highly uncertain of course environment and there is still a lot that we don't know and a lot to learn and more data research and analysis coming through on a daily basis. In chapter six, we look at peace and security as drivers of stability development and safe migration. It really provides an overview of the interaction between conflict and instability and insecurity alongside development and migration and how migration can contribute to both stability and also to development. Certainly in terms of mitigating the conditions that lead to irregular migration, as well as internal and cross-border displacement. There are some very interesting insights in regards to peace-building initiatives, community stabilisation of course, and we go into looking at particular examples at the local level. And thanks again to authors Adrian Chitimbo, Amanda Lucy and Mahari Maru who have put together this really important chapter on the triple nexus as some may call it. I'll now hand over to Anna to take us through the next six chapters. Anna needs no introduction, of course. But for those who don't know, Professor Anna Triandafelidou is the Canada Excellence Research Chair in Migration and Integration at Ryerson University where she's building an internationally recognised programme to explore the contemporary challenges of migration and integration. Prior to joining Ryerson, Anna was based in Florence, Italy, where she was the Robert Schumann Chair at the European University Institute and Director of the Cultural Plurism Research Area at EUI's Global Governance programme. I've been working with Anna for many years. As I mentioned, I'm delighted to have co-edited this edition of the World Migration Report with Anna. Anna is a richness of experience right the way across the spectrum, and I'll hand over now to Anna so she can take us through the next six thematic chapters in the report. Over to you, Anna. Thank you very much, Mahari, and thank you all for being here and indeed I can confirm that we started two years ago and I think the last time as well it was like you were just launching the previous report and then started already thinking about this one. So I think that says it all and only to say that when we started we're still planning for in-person workshops with the authors. And of course that hasn't happened but I'm delighted to be here today and of course we cannot underestimate the possibilities that we get through digital technology to be connected from different parts of the world. Although Mahari, you and I have been connected in these ways at times. I mean when no one was thinking about these possibilities and at the time Mahari was based in Australia and I was based in Italy. So without further ado, I'll share my screen. Yes, it should be. So starting with where Mahari left it off, I'll tell you about chapter seven, which is, I believe, another kind of innovative take that we have taken in this World Migration Report and our contributing authors about showing, like taking a deep dive in the data and looking at what do we learn from the data actually about what is happening on international migration around the world. So as we look at the media, we get the impression that most of migration is from really low income countries to high income countries. But when we take a closer look, what we see is that the idea of migration as a step ladder of opportunity is not really working. The idea of migration is a little bit polarized in that it happens mainly in relation to high income countries and to a certain extent with regard to middle income countries, while people from the lower income countries do not move. Now we knew that when we are looking into the literature of migration and development, but really taking a closer look at the data as this chapter is doing is I think gives us some food for thought and I hope it will give also to policymakers some food for thought about what is happening. What is happening actually on the ground and how we should reflect this in going forward in terms of migration policymaking and legal pathways. Going to the next slide and another issue that of course the importance of which we cannot underestimate under COVID is that of disinformation of migrants. I want to clarify that disinformation is not having sufficient complete adequate information we're not talking here about purposeful misinformation we're talking about the fact that we all know that all of us and particularly migrants on the ground may have a part of me know a part of the picture. And we have been discussing in recent years how important technologies, smartphones, social media have been, but we also know not all information sources are equally trustworthy. And it is important to do more in terms of informing all the stakeholders and international migration, as much as possible about what are the real options, what are the real hard bills, what are the real opportunities and help people make informed decisions so having the technology is not enough. We need to use it more and we need to think of questions like trust when people receive information so that they will act upon that information and not something else that they have heard through other sources. Of course, the biggest challenge of our time I'm afraid is climate change, and we have been talking a lot about disasters and, you know, disastrous events. And what this brings but it is important particularly with regard to the medium and long term evolution of international migration to look at the slow onset impact, you know the slow onset factor that we are not able to observe here by here. And we don't hear about in the media but actually are disrupting systems of production and are affecting livelihoods and in that sense also migration. We have seen that migration is a way of both adopt, mainly of adapting to climate change, but we should think also it's a way of more, we should think about it more creatively that's what we're discussing in this chapter in how we can use migration to mitigate climate change, and that we should kind of go away from this model like what I would call the model of if this area is becoming uninhabitable or we just have to move away from it, but we need to think more critically and more interactively about alternative solutions. And moving to human trafficking probably this may be seen as a classics, of course trafficking unfortunately has been part and parcel of international migration. And I think we need not lose focus on that it remains a major challenge, and it is important to note that it's not just about sex work it's also about labor, a severe labor exploitation labor trafficking. And of course that it needs not be long distance often international migration and trafficking are entrenched within the same region and we need it is very important to provide legal pathways for victims, so that we can have more effective collaboration and dismantling as well as prevention of this phenomenon. And I think that relates also to things we discussed in the disinformation chapter. Artificial intelligence in migration and mobility. At the time actually of COVID and immobility we have also relied a lot on digital technology and we have used digital technology for public health considerations to monitor movement to protect ourselves to keep our good health. We also know that technology is what make of it and this chapter really delves into both the opportunities and the pitfalls of using technology. Unfortunately, we know oftentimes there is a lot of entrenchment between good and bad uses of technology so there is a, there are violations of people's human rights and privacy, but at the same time this chapter points a lot to very important ways in which that technologies can be used by migrants and stakeholders in many positive ways. And that is nothing really to forget when we try to manage migration effectively in the future. Last but not least is the last chapter which is a chapter that had appeared for the first time in the previous edition, and which I think is very useful and very important as a conclusion. We should not forget all the positive contributions that migrants make globally in many ways, not just economic but also social, cultural, civic and political. And that I think particularly this chapter is particularly pertinent and topic at this time of disruption of mobility, and of many people being stuck at origin destination or even transit. These days actually when we started thinking about the launch with Mario we were contemplating even possibly an in person launch. It became clear this was perhaps a little too risky and just the evolution of these last days showed us that, you know, there is a long way ahead of uncertainty and migrants are certainly caught very much in this uncertain. And with that I would like to get to conclude my presentation and look forward to the questions as a discussion. Yeah. Many thanks Anna, I will just check and see if we have any questions. Now, before we move on to the next session. And I'm just checking with Celine. Thank you Celine. We can move on to the next session and start really stepping through some of the tools that are finalized or currently in development with partners from a range of different sectors and communities from around the world. Please allow me to introduce our first speaker for session to who will really take us through the interactive platform. As Viji mentioned, we've won a couple of awards now for the interactive platform for the report. And we've been really pleased to collaborate both internally and externally actually with a range of different partners and leading that work within IOM is the head of our online communications unit based in Manila so thanks very much for staying up Nacho. Martin Galan, a long name, we call him Nacho, is the head as I said of the online communications unit. He has 23 years of experience as a journalist, as an academic, a researcher, communication specialist with the private sector and nonprofit sector in a range of different locations around the world. It has been challenging at times to be able to get such a fantastic platform up with limited funds but we have been delighted with the energy the enthusiasm that Nacho has brought to this with his team and with a couple of external collaborators and we're really delighted now to hear his insights and really to share with you the latest on the World Migration Report interactive platform. Over to you Nacho. Thank you very much, Mari. Thank you very much for this opportunity and I will start just sharing my screen so I can show and let me please kind of confirm that you can see. So can you see my screen now? Yes, looks great. Thank you. Yes. Excellent. Thank you very much. So basically just to briefly, very briefly introduce that this support that we have provided and we have been delighted to collaborate and to work closely with the research unit and the World Migration Report team. The main base or the overall strategic approach in terms of communications is to facilitate horizontal and inclusive and constructive and well informed conversations. The main goals that we are trying to achieve when we try to achieve when conceiving this and implementing this interactive were many but I could highlight the fact of making this more accessible, more interactive and also more adaptable. And to explain this, let me walk you through, directly walk you through the interactive itself. When we talk about accessibility, it's also because all the content of the report is accessible in this interactive space where you can visit all the different elements that you could have in the report. And you can, and also it presents the report, a key analysis and of about complex processes explained for many audiences and including different analysis, different data that are easy to understand, but also at the same time giving the possibility of exploring more and going deeper. For example, here we start with this visualization where you see what is the percentage of migrants, right, one in 30 persons are migrants, but for example, if you want to access also, when we talk about making it interactive and adaptable, you can go through the, let's say you want to know more about remittances. So you can see who were the top 10 remittance recipients and keep on exploring the different, the different years, the different countries, the different sources, but also the different recipients at the same time. And this is again something that can be used by a journalist who is trying to write an article tonight in very few hours, but also used by a researcher or a high school student or a policymaker. And the, what we have tried is that the user can explore as much as much as the user wants, staying on the surface and having the key elements, but also going deeper as much as they need and they want to. Here we are exploring, for example, the visualization about COVID and I will just give some examples. You have the, here, for example, this map where you can see the evolution, the timeline of international travel restrictions, and you can see how over the time they have been changing and the colors are indicating the difference, right, and how the situation has been evolving from the very beginning until now, right. But we have also, for example, other tools, other visualizations where you can go even deeper. For example, in exploring, this is the Sanky diagram to explore the main corridors, the main corridors and the main recipients, and these are obviously more complex visualizations, but that allow the users that really want to get more data to go into the details to go into the different countries that they are interested in and have also the full picture. And before, in the previous interventions that was mentioned, especially mentioned to the establishment of opportunity, and indeed, this visualization, for example, tries to visualize that, how your passport index, how the, how depending on how easy is to travel for you, how this aspect is related to the human development index and to the fragile state index. And again, visually, you could see how the colors are changing and how the different countries with also some different differences, right. So it's not every, all the time it is what we could expect. And I think this is one of the interesting parts of this interactive. And of course, if you want to know more, if you want to explore more, you can go and download and explore all the different chapters in more detail. And this is just a very quick overview that I wanted to give. And again, to conclude, yesterday that the main goal has been trying to provide a to very different audiences, easier access to be an active part of the global conversation, and the global and the local conversations about migration. Thank you very much and I'm open for any question. Thank you. Thank you so much. Indeed, Nacho for stepping us through the interactive platform. We have used the platform on a number of occasions for GCM sub regional and country level reviews and is a really exciting and very interesting tool that as nacho showed, you can drill down into the country corridors, you can look at what changes are occurring and the new one, in particular, stemming from chapter seven, where you can look at the correlations between different indexes at the country level is a is a highly useful sort of tool and visually very engaging that we really is able to show and bring that data to life so we're delighted nacho to be working with you on this the story doesn't end here we'll already start to work on the next interactive soon, but it's great to get this far. I'm now just going to share my screen very briefly before we turn to Alhazra more hit Montmoreno from the international baccalaureate team, just so we can give you a bit of a snapshot really in terms of some of the tool kits that either in production or, or are already produced. I'm just going to go to. So hopefully you can see me sharing this page. The tool kits page, can you see that. No. Yes, it works. Yes. Yes. Okay, good. I just can't tell whether you can see it. Here is the toolkit page we can see the world migration educators tool kits, the fact checkers toolkit a new one and we'll be hearing from both Frederick and also from Cecilia in one that is in development for policy officials. The educators toolkit and it can be found on the World Migration Report web page. We're delighted that we have been working with the international baccalaureate team over a number of months and let me introduce Alejandra Moreno who's a curriculum manager at IB. She's called a bachelor's degrees in international affairs and literature and master's degrees in education and humanistic studies and we have been working alongside IB to really get, you know, the core of the report the fundamentals of migration as well as some specific thematic issues such as climate change into classrooms and I really need to say a big thank you to Jenna Blower as well as her predecessor Adam Sawyer who have worked on the toolkit to get it to this stage to be able to be used in classrooms around the world but please please let me hand over now to Alejandra over to Alejandra. Thank you. Thank you very much, Marie, for having me. So, I'm part of the international baccalaureate. The educators toolkit developed by the International Organization for Migration illustrates a strong investment in expanding the reach of the World Migration Report going from a document recognized worldwide to multiple stakeholders. It helps teachers bring the topic of migration into classroom discussions in an innovative and relevant way and makes the World Migration Report feel quite more accessible to secondary education students. All complementing the engagement interactive features that were just presented and that are just incredible in this time and age and features which have been included in its design. Most importantly, I believe it invites students to consider migration in ways that are relevant for them that feel closer to them regardless of where they are and especially in this pandemic setting I think that the virtual environment has showed us that we're more interconnected than ever. It also allows students to look deeper into particular themes that may be of special interest to them. The various models first made by addressing big questions which are something key to the IB framework and then going into the specific thematic studies allow for a tailored experience depending on students' interests on teachers' preferences and on sometimes even for interdisciplinary projects. So, in partnership with the International Organization for Migration, we at the International Baccalaureate have been working on resources that will showcase how the various models of the toolkit can be connected with multiple subjects from the NYP, the Middle Years Program, the Diploma Program, the DP, and the Career Related Program. By sketching out how the various models can be applied to already existing topics in the units or in particular subjects, we expect that more teachers will decide to use them with very organic relations that are already there. We are sure that IB educators and of course non-IBA educators around the world will find these resources extremely valuable and especially we hope that this will promote teachers and students to make the most out of out of their report, not using it only for a specific assignment or a research task but rather to make it an ongoing relation inside the classroom. Hopefully this will also help them to tackle global issues and to take migration out of only research and into classrooms and ultimately into their real life. The connections in the toolkit try to bring this global phenomena into both more comprehensive tasks that the students can easily address and that trigger a long-standing impression and reflection which I think ultimately will be beneficial for everyone in the field. In January hopefully we will have a presentation as well as a webinar and we'll let you on on this for further resources. Thank you very much. Thank you so much Alejandro and as you mentioned there at the end, yes we are working on doing a specific webinar in partnership with the international baccalaureate team on this next, can I say next month, yes next month we can say next month now in the new year and we're really delighted to have been working with Alejandro and his colleagues in the development process to get to this stage of an updated revised educators toolkit, obviously as you can imagine peer reviewed by educators and by researchers around the world and with the new content from the new report from the 2022 report. Please now allow me to turn to another of our close colleagues to Fredericka go in from the Geneva Science Policy Interface. Frederick will really step us through what the GSPI is about and how this collaboration came about. It is, we're kind of midstream, if we can say that we're halfway through a longer project and we're doing it in partnership with Cecilia Cannon, another long term colleague of ours where we've worked on a collaborative kind of approach to developing the policy officials toolkit. Over to you Frederick, I'll just let people know. And I'm sure Selene will put your bio in the chat anyway that's been very helpful thanks Selene. But Frederick is the executive officer of the Geneva Science Policy Interface and she supports the strategic development of the GSPI as a boundary organization and brings tailored support to specific science policy collaborations in Geneva. Prior to joining GSPI she worked in peace and conflict mediation, bringing scientific programs and policy support services in various organizational settings, such as in diplomacy with the NGO community and academic institutions including at the Graduate Institute. Over to you Frederick, we're delighted that you can join us and we're really very delighted at this, you know, science policy interface it's a challenging interface let's be honest, but it's a super important one. That's for sure. Over to you. Thanks. Thank you very much Mary. And thanks for having me today. And congratulations on the launch of the World Migration Report I'm very impressed with the breadth and breadth of the report and I look forward to dig into it a little bit more. So as you say I'm the executive officer of the Geneva Science Policy Interface perhaps just a quick word on who we are for those who don't know us. The GSPI is an independent platform hosted at the University of Geneva that aims to foster interactions between science and policy and build recognition of the science policy boundary spanning as an important field of practice within the Geneva ecosystem. Ambitious mandate and how do we do that. Well one way for us has been to create a special if modest funding instrument to support project that work on concrete solutions to accelerate the uptake of scientific knowledge in global governance. And last year, the GSPI was very excited to count among the successful ground recipients collaboration project between IOM and the Global Migration Center at the Graduate Institute of International Development Studies and this project was aimed to develop digital toolkit for policy officials based on the content of the World Migration Report. And this project is very important to us and was also assessed as a very important and strategic project by the independent expert committee that is reviewing the project applicants. Because, yeah, both for the potential impact, it might have it will have on its target audience, but also for the collaborative approach that is that is this taking. So let's me explain why. Well, firstly, the digital toolkit is a very practical response and potentially powerful response, given the scale where it will be deployed to the challenges that hamper research have taken evidence using policymaking. Policy officials, more than ever, need to access rapidly sound data and analysis and particularly so in the field of global migration, which is so complex, polarized and subject to disinformation as we just heard from Anna and Mary. The World Migration Report has already a fantastic job in harnessing a disseminating reliable synthesized scholarly knowledge that is policy relevant accessible and timely. But the digital era has brought new habits of information consumption and communication to every sector of society and policymaking is not different. As we see in many of other projects that we support policy officials need to be able to interact effectively and quickly with information sources directly. And that's why digital solutions that enable them to access specific data, learn how to interpret and incorporate them in their daily work and share them easily in the different media they use is are extremely important tools. So for us, it is a very relevant and important and strategic and critical initiative that I am taken to try to leverage the World Migration Report content digitally as a way to strengthen the capacity of migration officials around the world to take informed decisions and engage more rigorously in multi stakeholder discussions. So that the first value, the main value we see in this project but as I say the second value we see is the the approach that has been chosen, which is a science policy engagement process that underpins the development of the toolkit itself. We at the GSPI support processes that go beyond one way knowledge transfer, and that try to contribute to greater mutual understanding and co creation dynamics between academia and the policy world. And this project is an excellent case in point. The collaboration with the Graduate Institute will enable to collect data on policy official needs that will inform the design and deployment of the toolkit. And in return, this process will also allow to collect insights for the scientific community on how they can better broker their knowledge in policy circles. So this will result in some forms of learning opportunities for both communities to enhance their capacity for mutual engagement in support of informed migration policies. And last word to conclude, we at the GSPI are very well aware that science policy engagements takes time resources, but also stamina. And we are extremely pleased to support such a project that is led by passionate boundary spiners, Mary Cecilia and their team around, and they are doing a work that neither the scientists nor the policy professionals are able to perform on their perform on their own. So we really come in this this collaborations and we look forward to the existence of the toolkit. And we hope this can be an inspiration for actors working at the interface of science and policy, even beyond the migration field. Thank you. Thank you so much, Frederick, you've really talked us up there and now we have to meet those expectations, don't we. But I think we will. And the reason that we probably will is is right before us and that is Cecilia Kennell, who is a very, very experienced professional who has spanned, you know, policy, academia, communications for more, almost 20 years. And I should also mention to that as part of this project. We really need to acknowledge Professor Volson Chateau who is the head of the global migration center and and again, a long term collaborative partner as well as Cecilia fellows and our team, who is leading it from the research divisions. So Cecilia is again another expert researcher in her own rights and we are really delighted to be able to work collaboratively I liked that you know that the phrase of sort of co creation dynamics that really sums it up very nicely. I'll also mention and I'm sure we've got her full bio in the chat. We're coming through in a second but Cecilia, as I mentioned has almost 20 years of experience in the field, but she's also a senior researcher at the global migration center and the global governance center at the Graduate Institute. She also served as the academic advisor to the UN for its 75th anniversary recently, and she's one of the directors on the board of the academic Council of the UN system. So please let me hand over to Cecilia who'll be able to share her insights as part of this co creation with Frederick and her team and the global migration center at the Graduate Institute. Cecilia over to you. Thank you so much, Marie and thank you Frederick as well and congratulations on the launch of the report to Anna Marie the whole team. I'm really looking forward to reading it. In my brief remarks, what I'll do is I'll first explain the problem and the need for a digital toolkit that we identified together with Iowans research unit and also with the Geneva Science Policy Interface. I'll explain how we're going about addressing that problem that we've identified. And finally I'll provide two to three early insights from our initial analysis. So as Marie mentioned, we're kind of halfway through the process of developing the toolkit. We've completed the research and data gathering components getting the insights from policy officials, and now it's about developing content, and then building the actual toolkit and building capacity with it. So first of all, what is the problem and what is the need that we identified. So there's really a need on two different levels or problem on two different levels. On a substantive level, we know that migration has has brought enormous benefits for long, long, long, long periods of time to both origin and destination countries and societies. Yet today it's associated with uncertainty and fear or is often associated with uncertainty and fear. And this is compounded by as has already been mentioned misinformation disinformation on migrant migration, especially in recent years. So as a result, and in reaction to public sentiments of uncertainty and fear migration policies and responses can sometimes be highly reactive and ad hoc. And this can undermine this can undermine a balanced approach to managing migration that better support society's resilience and economic and social development. So in view of this, there's a dire need for research based evidence based migration policies and responses that can really leverage the positive impacts of migration, stem its negative implications and adapt to new developments. On a practical level, there's another problem. There are other problems. There are a number of barriers that continue to inhibit research uptake among policy officials. And that relates to migration research but also to research on many other global challenges. So among those barriers, migration research like research related to other global challenges. It remains very difficult to access, broadly speaking, and very difficult to navigate for policy officials, lengthy publications, highly technical or theoretical content that's not always relevant to the work of policy officials. Often publications are locked behind paywalls. The timelines of academic research projects are really often out of sync with what what policy the timelines that policy officials are working to. And all of these barriers really limit the potential of research and evidence to inform migration policies. So there's really a need for research to be presented. Not only for research to inform policy but it really needs to be presented in a more accessible way for for policy officials and that's in terms of content formats and channels of communication. So there are those two different levels of need. So how are we trying to address the problem. So working together with IRN's research units and the general with the generous support of the Geneva Science Policy Interface we're developing a digital toolkit that's really tailored to policy officials needs and constraints. And we're really aiming to maximize the use of research of evidence among policy officials who are working on migration policy making as well as implementation. So that's really in terms of the policy officials that that we've been working with to gather insights representatives in governments ministries and departments at the country level from foreign and internal affairs to migration, labour integration and development among others, as well as permanent missions to the UN and other international organizations. So we're approaching this in three ways. First of all, to ensure that what we produce is actually wanted and is tailored to policy officials needs. We've conducted interviews, we've held a focus group and we distributed a survey among policy officials to understand their needs and also the constraints that they're facing when they're trying to to use migration research and access migration research in their work. We've received insights from 26 policy officials in 18 countries. We're really pleased with the representation that we have across regions, and also we see a lot of similarities across regions. And after the next step is really then taking into consideration the insights that we've gathered, we're now developing the content and adapting the content for the digital toolkit, and that's building on the World Migration Report and other key migration resources. And then IOM's communications team will actually be building the toolkit digitally. And then finally in order to maximize an awareness and use the toolkit we plan to run capacity building workshops among policy officials so really outlining how to use all of the tool kits features so that people can really use it in their work. And we also hope that our findings will build the capacity among within the scientific community with insights on how to leverage research for greater policy impact, whether it's migration related or related to other global challenges. Just to very quickly share with you two to three insights that have come through in our early analysis, which are guiding the creation of the toolkit. Our initial analysis really shows the policy officials confirmed that they face enormous challenges when sourcing and using migration research in their work. Whether it's to do with the uncertain reliability of sources out of date information, lengthy and highly technical theoretical publications or publications that are blocked behind paywalls that I mentioned earlier. We also did confirm that there is a dire and constant need for reliable and accessible and up to date research on migration, particularly related to statistics and data, getting the latest data, which is changing so rapidly. As well as information on migration trends and evolving issues, which are all very well thoroughly covered in the World Migration Report. But in line with the challenges that they face, they also did point to the World Migration Report as the number one go to research publication that most of the people we spoke to are actually using because of its reliability because it is relevant because it's up to date. And it's highly accessible in terms of the way that the content is presented. And did go on to show enormous enthusiasm for development of the digital toolkits, primarily so that they can share what's the relevant parts of the World Migration Report. What was very interesting is often they would admit to reading the World Migration Report from cover to cover, but where they really need help is being able to share, this is people working specifically on migration, but where they need help is really being able to share it with colleagues, whether it's colleagues within their own country or stakeholders and partners that they're working with. And the toolkit can really help them share the relevant pieces of the World Migration Report with other colleagues. So they're highly enthusiastic about the possibility of being able to download PDFs of data visualizations, download PDFs of tables showing changing trends in migration, download PDFs of summaries of specific topics, for example, or video links, for example, that can be easily shared with colleagues via WhatsApp and email. They also stress the need for capacity building and awareness raising of the World Migration Report itself and related toolkits. And that you know among relevant government ministries and departments, so that more fit policy officials can can make use of the content there. And they also did acknowledge that that does require additional resources to roll out. We're very excited to be working on this important project with IOM with the Geneva Science Policy Interface. And I look forward to answering any questions that you might have on the digital toolkit for policy officials. Thank you. Thanks so much Cecilia, really useful also to hear the process as well as those initial insights that are coming through which is which is great and certainly aligns with our Director General's comments yesterday in IOM Council, particularly where he was talking about the need for translations, for example, for translations to be done so that people in capitals if we're talking about member states. But if we're also talking about students and researchers, the general public and the media, they need content in their official languages. So it is something that IOM has prioritised, you know, it's a challenge in terms of funding and so forth and fundraising, but certainly prioritised for the last edition. And the DG is very keen to ensure that we exceed the kind of 10 languages that we have outputs available in for the 2020 edition. So again, we have to meet those expectations and we're working with a range of partners and delighted to say that we got some positive news yesterday just after the launch of this edition along those lines to help us make sure that we are expanding, expanding accessibility for supporting technical capacity building around the world, including with officials, but not only with officials. I can see that there are a few questions in the chat. And I, it's like driving a bus when you've got your heavy sunglasses on and it's snowing or something. There are lots of questions coming through. I will start to go through the first one which I missed. I'm sorry, I think that was for the first sort of session, but I'll read this out so everyone can hear it. This is from Ngozi who is an independent researcher from Nigeria and Ngozi writes recognizing the danger posed by transnational organised crime and bearing in mind the precarious situations faced by people on the move who invariably need protection. How does IOM ensure ethical data management in a way that their fundamental rights are not violated? Very good question and would completely underscore the importance of this issue. It is an issue that we certainly go through the human rights perspective around privacy and data in the artificial intelligence migration and mobility chapter that Anna Badushi and I worked on. But in relation to IOM's corporate kind of data management, I can point to a couple of publications Ngozi that you might be interested in. I will put one in the chat now, which is the IOM data protection manual. But there are also others such as IOM's data strategy. They're available on the publications platform and I would encourage you to go into IOM's publications platform and you can do some searches and find a lot about IOM's data management and governance arrangements, which is a little bit of a sidetrack from the World Migration Report, but a very important topic nevertheless. Oh, okay. Here's a question for Anna and myself on how we can get in touch with us for future engagements to publicize the report. Thank you so much, Harun, who's put that one in the chat. We'll be in touch. We're always open to those sorts of ideas. You can certainly put your email in the chat or send it directly to us and we will be in touch. And thank you very much for that kind offer. We also have, yes, basically an extension of that with some particular aspects related to a new collaboration. So thank you. I've got a question here on any innovations in the migration sector. I'm not entirely sure what that question sort of refers to, but I would just point to constant innovation within the migration sector. The use of technology and digital technology in particular is a growing focus right the way across the full spectrum of migration and mobility, and it certainly is threaded right the way throughout the World Migration Report, the 22 edition, but Anna and I go into those technological transformations and what they mean for migration and mobility, both the opportunities and the challenges that they present in chapter one. So I would encourage people to read chapter one. And on that point I'll hand over to Anna and see if she would like to add anything from a WMR perspective, but also drawing on her, you know, deep experience around the world, beyond the WMR, which is extensive, of course, if Anna, if you wanted to add anything. Well, at the risk of sounding self congratulatory, but it's not of all my Mary, but Mary and her team and an actress team. I think the platform is very important. And perhaps on this note I can put a little bit Alejandra on the spot and asking to say a little bit more about whether how you would see the use of the platforms for instance in the IB or generally in educational environments because what I'm thinking right now is also that you one would need to So for instance, to take one example what Nacho was showing before, you know, the possibility to migrate to a country, you know, how good your passport is so to speak in terms of international mobility. So I think what the platform shows is a very nice and engaging visual tool that you know how is this changing it was this line that we're going up in that. Then I think that would prompt people to discuss and would lead them to the report to see the actual data so if you are a stakeholder or researcher probably you start from this and then you go look at the data and perhaps identify those countries or that region that is of interest to you. But for instance, if you use it in an educational environment. I don't know if Alejandra you would have some reflection. How would you adapt it I'm thinking you're using it in say a high school to try and get, you know, the young people to talk about it and how would you, for instance, even comment on the particular region where that particular school because I know the IB schools are all around the world. So that would be for me very interesting also to listen to and I think I'll leave it at that. Yeah, thank you Anna. Okay, so building up on on how the educators will be able to use of course teachers and students as well as administrators will be able to use the educators toolkit. The toolkit has a very familiar and a makeable way of approaching the connections with the report. So for, for every model, you have an instructional guide that basically if you want some a product that's already there that you just have to bring it into the classroom. All of the units have an instructional guides that even sketch out how much time you would need to implement this in your class. They include resource guides and they have both text case studies as well as data case studies. So the main connection teachers, I think as a former teacher myself, I think we are used to looking at the migration report and trying to bring it into our classrooms. But it's usually with university students you can do it as you mentioned directly from the data and especially they're working on research projects. But with secondary education or or middle school, it's usually harder to look at this exhaustive and comprehensive piece of information for students to tackle directly. So what the toolkit does is it brings products that are already completed. And it facilitates teachers introducing them into the classroom instead of teachers devoting additional time to thinking how can I bring this into my lesson plan for for geography for history for global politics for any or for an interdisciplinary subject such as in NYP for individuals and societies. You already have a build unit that will have all of the strong structural components, but that will inevitably point you towards both the interactive features but also the report, but to a very specific part of the report. So it will take you to chapter one or after drawing on an experience, it will invite students to look at the interactive, for example, on the password. And I think, hopefully what we will see is that after going through the educators toolkit, we teachers will start thinking of their own ways to use it further than that. And so, besides using this ready, ready to use features which I have found, honestly, just very detailed and thought of not only as a connection to the report but as things that educators will find valuable in themselves. I really hope that from this, we can have then students turning to the report for using the for using it in their own way outside of the of the particular lessons maybe, for example, in the IV for the DP students conduct an extended essay. So they carry on a bit more of an extended research, which ultimate outcome is 4000 word report. And usually for that, they will tackle the report. But I think there's a great way of introducing this big materials that are as most people here have already commented, which are already accessible. But this introduces it in a way that you can scaffold it in the classroom which in today's world where you have always a differentiation in the classroom. I think there's a great resource for teachers to play around with their students which are really invested into certain topics, but also those that may come in as something new and unfamiliar to them. Thanks Alejandro and just to add to that. For the use of the interactive we use it extensively and have like class exercises laid out for teachers so that they can very easily just bring that into the classroom and utilize the interactive platform, looking drilling down into very specific areas as Alejandro has mentioned. It's been a considerable kind of investment of time and again we just say thanks to to Jenna and to Adam for all their work in getting us this far and we're really excited to be working with Nacho and his team in terms of the next the next steps and and also with with I be early next year to take this forward. We have another question in the chat. Thank you very much to Patricia who's asked are there particular chapters that engage in mixed migration and or mixed motivations for migration or or really for migrants. We have that specific kind of issue right the way through the report there's discussions in not so much in chapter two which is the global overview but certainly in the regional narrative discussions. There is a lot of material there wide variety of data sources at the regional and sub regional level. There's also chapter six which of course looks at peace and security in the context of development and migration and different types of migration and in chapter we draw of course on the body of literature on decision making, and you'll see for example in there one of the figures that is from your gun carlings work around aspirations for migration and really goes into aspects related to decision making and the unfortunate issue that Nacho has highlighted in the in the data visualization platform the so called Lottery of birth related to the ability to actually realize migration aspirations. I would also point to a particular chapter in an earlier edition of the World Migration Port I'm looking over across at my desk. It is the understanding migrant journeys from migrants perspectives in the 2018 volume which deals with this specific issue in a lot of detail, and and really highlights some of the difficulties and the real challenges in terms of why people move and say for example that some people who are labor migrants may have international protection needs as well so there's a range of different factors underpinning movements. I just want to see if anybody would like to add to that particular points. I just wanted to say yeah for instance the chapter also on this information I think touches upon mixed migration in the sense that the kind of information you have will impact your choices and yeah I would say mixed migration runs through the report as a as a concern. This, as Mario was saying, it is very hard often times it is very hard we have to understand it as a continuum and I'm sure pretty good agree with me it's a continuum we cannot say maybe there are some cases where someone is clearly an economic migrant and there are some cases where someone is clearly a refugee but there's a lot of cases in between. And that is also another topic in relation to the climate change and both, you know, the onset of slow impacts as well as disastrous events. We're surely we have to be aware of it and thank you for the question. Thanks Anna. And I'm looking at another question now is, which is in regards to a specific discussion of health worker migration. What I would point to is a chapter from the 2020 edition which is on migration and health and looks at the broad topic of migration and health and the interconnections including specific discussion of people who work in the health sector all around the world and and it is a, you know, a sector that there is an enormous, enormous amount of sort of talent management and a huge labor market demands, right the way around the world in the health sector and this is this chapter was published just prior to covert 19 but I would say the issue is more pronounced now than than ever before. Thank you for your question from Christina. Thank you for your question Christina on specific focus on modern slavery and the vulnerability of migrants to exploitation and trafficking. Yes, there is a chapter that looks specifically on human trafficking in migration pathways. There is a chapter that is was led by Celine in our team Celine Balloz in partnership with Marika MacCadam and Joseph tie and that chapter really steps through some of the key issues in regards to as you say vulnerability of migrants to exploitation and specifically human trafficking. I really encourage you to have a read of that particular chapter there's also a focus on new partnerships for cooperation, including with the private sector, including in relation to supply chains, including looking at some of the research and analysis and data that has been collected on victims of human trafficking around the world and utilizing that I know that Celine is on the line I want to make sure as the lead author for that chapter. I've covered it sufficiently and whether she would like to add to that Celine. Thank you, Mary. I think that's why we completely covered the topic indeed and we focus quite a lot on our vulnerability looking first at a better and trying to highlight as well because there's a common misunderstanding especially in the news when you see the number of victims of trafficking, or it's not sufficiently highlighted that it's the number of victims of trafficking that I identified so we question you as well the datafication in terms of migration more broadly but like thinking more specifically and trying to see as well like how we can kind of get a sense and insights on the situation of migrants that are being trafficked today. And yes you covered otherwise vulnerability of course and as well the issue of collaboration, which is expanding. And that will be a really important resource that chapter for practitioners for researchers for students for policymakers around the world it's a challenging topic. And when we've seen it in the news recently with that conflation of smart, you know migrant smuggling and human trafficking yet again it's an area that Anna has also been an expert on for a long time and it's continuing to be challenging. And we're always working with a range of different partners including with the private sector to try and realize the counter trafficking agenda and to make sure that people are really as much as possible, not in those vulnerable situations to start with. I'd like now just to hand over and see if there are any final remarks from any of our panelists. Are there any burning issues that you forgot to mention or anything that you would like to respond to in terms of questions or comments that have come through the chat. Anything from you first I'll hand over to you. No, not really I think we we've had the I hope we have highlighted the main arguments covered in the world migration report and the main functionalities, and maybe Mario you should also we should take the opportunity to highlight that the previous version is available in several languages. And this version will hopefully soon be available in several languages and we hope that this also facilitates people because we're aware of the fact that we are part of perhaps an international community of experts that works in English or French, but there is a lot of stakeholders out there in the different regions where having the report in in, you know, in different languages is key to using it and to. And I think that that is something also Mario that you have been really promoting in the last few years and it is I believe very important. It is an end, you know, for the for the donors online. What I would say is it's a very cost effective and kind of efficient way of really supporting capacity building and a very, very practical for people who are working in different countries. I can't underscore enough how important it is to have official languages, a material in official languages. We are an international community, and we sometimes forget that it's important to have outputs in Swahili, you know, in Turkish in Portuguese in a range of different languages for people who are working in in country so that's I'm glad you mentioned that thanks Anna. Alejandro you had your hand up. Was there anything that you wanted to mention before we just really quickly about the last questions you address. All of them are are contained in the educator's toolkit for any interest and I think that that's that's one of the wonderful things of it that instead of looking at a 500 page document for secondary school students, you have I mean you have 130 but the models which are only a few pages long, maybe 10 pages are a great way, for example, health will temporary workers health is addressed and makes motivations are particularly one of the interesting elements. So I think that most people interested in their report, even if they are not directly teaching at the moment they will find in this toolkits and accessible way to start browsing around the report. Thanks Alejandro and that's a good point because we forget sometimes we're so close to some of these things that we for the educators toolkit we don't just draw on the current edition of the World Migration Report we draw on the series. And we also don't limit ourselves to the World Migration Report series. We also draw on a range of other materials as well and then try and package it up so that it's very very usable, accessible and able to be translated directly into classrooms. Diego, thank you so much for your question. Diego has asked, and I have views on this but he's heard mine, I think, quite a few times, so I'll open it up to the panel on the views regarding the unwillingness by policy to make use of evidence for policymaking. Frederick, can I hand over first to you on this particular topic, I mean it is an area of your kind of specialization so I would be really interested in your insights. I do tend to talk about this a fair bit so I think people might be aware of my views which is maybe your idea goes ask the question but it's challenging, I think, is what I would sum it up as. Thanks, Mary. Obviously that's a big challenge. Policymaking is definitely not only about funding grounding decisions on evidence only there are political dynamics. There are value system behind it there are a lot of tradeoffs that needs to be resolved so it would be a bit naive to think that, you know, policymaking can become purely evidence based or science based. But having to say that, I think that it just shows how important it is to first foster the production of quality data, make sure that they are accessible to the to the biggest group of stakeholders. And, and also work on the on the data and evidence literacy among policy officials so that the more policy official will be literate will be aware of the importance of grounding the decisions and on the possibility of grounding decisions on the access of reliable data. The more evidence will have to be somehow taken by, you know, even those, it will be even more difficult for policymakers who are reluctant to to accept and look at the evidence to do so. I think that's just legitimate even more the the current effort that are being done in this in this field. Dave, thank you Frederick and I can say that Anna has her hand up. Yeah, I have something to add there. Now of course we know policy decisions are not driven just by data they're driven by political priorities. But I think where research can make a difference and particularly the kind of research that directly engages with policy is that you provide the data you provide the analysis and then you provide the platform. I think audio visual means and tools, likewise more kind of digital storytelling and digital scrolling telling can give. Can I call it like that the push to the person to think. Okay, maybe I should be looking into this or maybe I should be changing this policy or maybe I've heard this in that workshop or I had this meeting and I heard this. Maybe I should be going that direction so you may have all the evidence but people just don't get how can I say the urge to act. That's where I think the platforms and you know the audio visual is important. Because policy makers oftentimes of course somebody who has been in a ministry in that position for a relatively long time they know the need to greedy, but the decision is usually not taken by them it's taken by a minister and a minister, or even a vice minister cannot be expert on everything. So that's where I think we have to go the extra mile and I call it you know give it a push to the person to decide to do to look at the evidence. Now we know the evidence is not is not everything but this is where we can make a contribution I think. Yeah, certainly I would very much agree with that. Anna and one of the kind of partnerships that we have is with the World Economic Forum and we co curate the migration transformation map that is particularly targeted to it's an interactive platform. And it's particularly targeted to industry leaders to ministers ministerial level policy decision makers and industry leaders. And that is exactly what that platform is aiming to do through strategic analysis and science policy interface to be able to try and tell stories through an interactive platform and to motivate action. It's been very interesting working with them and part of the interactive platform has certainly inspired our own more focused on data analysis and the and the data interactive so it is a bit more data focused with nacho and his team. We are also delighted to be working of course with the Graduate Institute and GSBI in terms of the policy officials talk it and making sure that is digital that it will have that ability to interface in a platform sort of setting that is you know engaging that's colorful that is crystallizing some of the key migration data research and analysis to be able to be used by policy officials around the world. So I'm just checking that there are no more questions and I'm sorry if I have missed some, but I think we are finalized in terms of we've, we've covered all of the questions. I can't see any hands raised, please Cecilia if you wanted to make any final comments or nacho. I want to make sure that you're. Yes, please Cecilia. Oh just really, really quickly adds to what Anna and Frederick, it said which which I completely agree with but also just taking the time to speak the language of the policy officials which is what about what creating these platforms is all about, but really taking the time to understand what other priorities in terms of researchers taking the time to understand, bringing in policy officials at the outset of when research is actually being designed, including them throughout whether it's by gathering insights from them, the research process, and then presenting, you know, whether it's an academic publication and formats, but also presenting it in a way that's accessible for the policy officials, by framing in the words that policy officials are using so often there's a different language being spoken between researchers and policy officials, as well as the format and the channel. Thank you. Thanks Cecilia just want to make sure I thought nacho was going to unmute himself there, but I think we are. Did you want to add anything nacho. So no yeah just to say that as all the intervenants have been repeating I think here the question is also that all these different tools. At the end of the day they are triggering conversations, many different conversations in different spaces and situations that as before someone said they could trigger anytime a decision that maybe someone someone who who didn't take that decision for whatever reason then all of a sudden is exposed to that content to that data to that reflection and then they take is the final push to take a decision right and to take action. Okay, I just wanted to thank you for for all that work because for us is only trying to support on how to communicate this but the work behind this is big is very big and is very, very high quality so I just wanted to thank you all for Thanks so much nacho we've enjoyed working with you we've enjoyed working with with your team and with a range of different partners around the world. Special thanks to Anna of course in terms of co editing and also my team on line Celine. Adrian Jenner. Who's with us. We've also had previous interns and junior consultants with us to along the way as such is the way in terms of how I am operates Christina who's an intern with us at the moment and of course Pablo. There are very many people when you look at the acknowledgement section and the and the contributor section of the world migration report is very large, because it is a highly collaborative process. And we, it's never dull, and we certainly find it challenging but also rewarding. So thank you again for your collaboration and support and the work is not over yet there's a lot more work to do. We have hit a milestone today with the new report being launched and the first insights into the report so thank you so much to our panelists for your collaboration but also for your precious time for this webinar and we're really delighted that you could join us Thanks so much.