 You are watching the fastest growing fitness entertainment and health podcast on YouTube. This is mine pump. Now check this out. We have a lot of fun in today's episode. We actually answered fitness and health questions from viewers and listeners just like you guys. So people actually write in on our Instagram page, mine pump media. They go underneath the qua meme and then they ask a question. We pick the best ones that we like and then we answer them in today's episodes. Let me go over what we went through in today's episode. By the way, make sure you subscribe to this channel, like this video, share this with your friends and turn on notifications because we give away stuff all the time, but only to people who click on there first. I'll tell you about that a little more later in this intro. So let me tell you what happened in today's episode. We opened up by talking about cholesterol. Did you know that cholesterol actually can help you build muscle? It's absolutely true. Mind blown. I've been talking about it for years and studies are coming out to support it. Then we talked about Justin's mom. Oh yeah. You're going to want to know all about. There's a lot we covered. His mom. It's a good time. Yeah. Then we talked about the lessons that we learned working out and our most valuable lessons had nothing to do with developing the sexy physiques that you see now on your camera, on your screen today. Then we talked about HubSpot. This is a great company to invest in. They just bought the hustle and their share exploded. We like to talk about investments sometimes. Then I talked about Craneo-Pagus Twins. These are twins connected at the brain. Really interesting stuff. We talked about Beyond Meat. This is another investment opportunity. They're working with Pepsi. So you've got two very unhealthy companies working together. What a combo. And the value went through the roof. By the way, sometimes we talk about sponsors in our podcast. If you ever want to see if there's a discount, check the links below. And if there is, you can click on the link and you can get, I don't know, 15 to 25% off usually. Then we got into the questions. The first one, somebody wants to know what's in my bag. Okay. So the guys tease me all the time about my supplement bag. Yes. I do have a supplement bag and they cornered me. So today I revealed what was inside the bag. You got redevolved paraphernalia. That's right. The next question this person wants to know if they can build muscle mass when their weights only go up to 50 pounds. So apparently it's too light for them. So we talk about strategies there. The next question, this person wants to know how to adjust their macros and calories when their weight loss plateaued. So we talk about strategies with diet on how to make the weight loss continue. And yes, I know you could just keep cutting calories, but that's not super effective long-term. So we talk about other strategies. And then the final question, this person's asking about hypermobility or instability. So they're really flexible, but they're not very stable. So we give some strategies there. By the way, if you are one of the first 30 people to leave a comment underneath this video and we like your comment, we pick it, we'll pick our favorite one out of 30, you can actually get a free t-shirt. That's right. We'll mail you a free mind pump t-shirt. By the way, this is made with a special yak fur that was blessed by Himalayan monks. It's so soft. Or cotton. You'll get an either cotton shirt or the blessed Himalayan yak fur shirt. So it's going to be one of those things, probably the cotton one though. It's very spiritual. Be honest with you. Also, all month long, we are running a promotion on two of our more popular programs called the phase two bundle. So it includes maps performance. This is a sports inspired workout program. It gives you functional strength and mobility. We combine that with maps aesthetic, which is a bodybuilder workout program. So it's the best of both worlds. You get both programs. Now normally, if you get each program individually, they will cost you 300 bucks for both of them. But right now you can get them both for $79.99. By the way, this promotion is only going on this month in February. Okay. So after February, it'll be totally over. So $79.99, since you get access for life to both programs is a 30 day money back guarantee. Just go to mapsfebuary.com. That's M-A-P-S-F-E-B-R-U-A-R-Y.com. Enjoy the show. How does it feel to be the fat guy of the group, Sal? Huh? How did I get that? How did I get that? I mean, Justin's looking pretty lean and mean. I think I got to stop with the fat jokes on him. I mean, it's all coming together. I just dropped seven pounds, bro. How am I fat? Yeah. I mean, less fat now. That's good. I don't know. I tell you what, we have it. Now that we have an audience on YouTube that's really growing, you guys can look in the camera and in the comments, tell us who the fattest is. You're probably going to lose that one, dude. You think so? Have you been watching them? Son of a bitch. Yeah. Look how chiseled this. You look like you got stung by a bunch of bees, dude. Damn. In my biceps? It's just everywhere. Oh, everywhere else? Yeah. Oh, man. All meat, no bones. You know what I mean? He had that first vlog that we did. You're like this. You got your eggs and your flour and your milk and your sugar and you make a cake and without one ingredient, it's disgusting. So we're all an ingredient to this cake that we call mine pump. So we started mine pump like five years ago. And I started snoring while I was awake now. Not even when I sleep. You were talking about that the other day, actually. Katrina was telling me that she's like, man, you have been snoring. It's the weight, dude. As soon as I'm pushing the weight the same way, I just start snoring. It's the side snoring you got to issue. That was me, dude. That's what I said. Yeah. That's when I said I got to do something about it. You know what it is? I told you guys about this a long time ago. Your tongue gets fatter. This is, oh yeah. That was mind blowing. This is what the studies, this is what they say. They say you snore more when you gain weight because your tongue gets fatter. It gets in the way. That's disgusting. Yeah. Tongue fat. Actually, you ever hear like, what was the name, Biggie? You know, when he would rap or big pun, you don't even need to see him. You can hear it. You can hear in their voice. Yeah, they're big. Yeah. Oh, there's some obesity in that tongue. That's going on right now. Laying some fat tracks. Dude, it's crazy. You read that a couple of years ago. I remember when you read that study, right? About the fat tongue. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember what it said though. What did it say? Do you remember? That's what it said. That your tongue gets fatter. I know, but like how much? Oh, I don't know, dude. It didn't have a percentage of how much when you put weight on? How do they test that anyway? There's no calipers. You could do that, right? It's a way your tongue underwater. Stick your tongue in the glass. No, I'm sure you can measure like circumference of it before and after, right? Yeah. I'm sure that's how they figured that out. I imagine that's how they studied it. Hey, speaking of cool stuff, not that being fat's cool, but anyway, I am seeing way more articles now talking about the anabolic muscle building effects of cholesterol. Finally. Well, I mean. How long have I been talking about that? Shout out to TNation, right? Yeah, they just did an article, right? They love some mind bump, I swear. Oh, I know. Yeah, we got an incident. What's going on, boys? I think we got an incident. What's going on, boys? We know you're listening. No, I mean, we've been talking about that since day one, not that we discovered it, by the way. This is like old bodybuilding knowledge, but now more of the mainstream fitness is starting to come out and talk, especially after that one study that came out that showed that whole eggs versus egg whites, even if the protein was controlled, contributed to more muscle. And it's the cholesterol. It actually signals muscle growth through a few different mechanisms. How many things are completely the opposite of what we learn growing up? Oh, you mean from food? Government telling us what's healthy and what's healthy. What's healthy and what's not. I feel like it's everything. Now, does that make you question, though, what we believe today more? Well, not what I believe, because what I believe often is counter to that other stuff, but. Well, we didn't when we were in it, right? I mean, we all admitted that we were in the thick of it and bought into all that. That fat made you fat, right? We were pushing the low fat diets back in the early 2000s, late 90s. So candy solves diabetes. That's my next. That's your next prediction. No, but really, though, because we've seen just in our short time of being in this space, we've seen the evolution of nutrition science change so much. Does that ever make you guys question our beliefs today on what we think is so important or great or what's working or not amongst all these popular diets? I'm much more critical in terms of, yeah, when something comes out like that, like some new way of, you know, say it's like carnivore diet or say it's something else, like it's so radical, I'm definitely slow to jump. I'm at the point now and I'm sure, I know you guys are too, because we talk about this kind of stuff. We've been just doing this for so long that you start to learn to be critical, because there were so many things that took for granted, so many things that thought were, you know, true or common knowledge that were proven to be totally false. I mean, I'll tell you what, if you're under 30, you don't remember this, but we used to be, I mean, pushed hard to buy margarine. And in fact, they would call margarine something healthy, like healthy spread or heart spread or whatever. Because it was, you know, no saturated fat. So it was like plastic butters. They made that a plastic or whatever. And they would literally label it that. And it was totally fine. And I remember like family. They're doing the same with meat right now, I feel. Oh, yeah. Right? That's so meat that's made in a lab is better, apparently. Public enemy number one now is meat. Meat is apparently. It's interesting to watch. Even though it's the one food that you could technically, not that I would recommend this, I don't think this is a good choice, but it's the only single food you could ever just eat by itself and probably never get a nutrient deficiency. Yeah. You can't do that with any other. All of that would suck. Like I see, like we have friends that are like all in the carnivore diary. We have a handful. Yeah, I don't think it's ideal. Right. I just, and we were just back. We just got back from truckie and, you know, one of the things we always eat when we're all together, the four of us guys, we always do the rib eyes, right? We do the big rib eyes. Yeah, rib eyes, mushrooms, onions, and asparagus. It's like the staple meal that we eat. And we had it back to back days. And I'm already like, I'm cool on the steak. You know, I wanted to take it. Oh, really? I was like, oh, this is great. Yeah. Yeah, it was, oh, no, it was amazing both nights. But then I got home last night. And I'm like, I, you know, I didn't feel like steak, you know, or something else. So I can't imagine doing that. Is that why you had tacos and cake? Yeah, I did not. Did you celebrate south birthday without me? I didn't. I didn't. I know this guy out in his cake, both of you two flying on the radar on the birthdays. Do you guys ashamed of your age? No, I just stopped counting at a certain point. At this point, you know, you pass 40. It's like whatever. I actually literally start to forget. So wait, I'm held, man. Now, what are your fam, both your immediate family, so wives and kids, and then also like your immediate family, like your mom's, dad's and uncles. How are they with you as his birthday? Is it like a big celebration still because you're old and no one gives a fuck? Or what's it like? I just get a lot of messages. My mom's the one that cares. She still cares. She does hard. She used to, you know what was embarrassing? She used to make these huge flags and put it outside her house. It's like my face on it. Are you serious? Oh, yeah, dude. Please tell me you have a picture. It was so embarrassing. I'll find it. Dude, I'll show you. Please tell me you have a picture of that. This is the same person who made you dress up like a leprechaun? Yes. Yes, dude. St. Patrick's said. You guys have no idea. Okay. Yeah, you should put me on front street all the time. Your mom was training you. You know what I mean? Just like. Just deal with it, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to embarrass you. That's why I'm not embarrassed. I don't really get embarrassed very often. I used all that up. Okay, so tell me in my childhood. Did you go through a phase of your life then of like resentment and animosity towards her? Sure. Yeah. Well, you wouldn't be normal. I mean, you wouldn't be normal if you did. Well, it was mainly over like things that I would tell her and that was going on in school. Like I was having problems with my teacher or whatever. And then she would come in like guns blazing and like embarrass me and oh my god, dude. So I stopped telling her things. She came in. I can just picture you. Your mom coming in to save you from getting in fights at school and then she's got flags of your face on your birthday. Like, oh man, anybody drove by there. It's just like turned 16. It was like it went all the way till I left the house. This explains why you're tough as nails. You probably got your ass kicked all through fucking middle school. I did get my ass kicked quite a bit. She's like, I'm just trying to prevent you from getting bullied. And you're like, mom, it's the flags in front of the house on my face that's getting me. She's like, it's just reps, honey. Now, what was on the what was on the fly was like a picture of you as a baby in the bathtub or was like a current picture? Yeah, it was like a picture of my like I was a baby. Like it had like, you know, this younger face. And then it had like happy birthday. It had like some sports, you know, like ball on there, whatever, like San Francisco 49ers, you know, whatever. It was just like whatever I was into, she'd like throw it on the flag and then iron it on there. That's hilarious. Yeah, dude. That's so good. I'm telling you guys. I love your mom. Yeah, she's crazy. I've never met, have I met your mom? I only met your dad. I don't know if you've met, yeah. No, your dad's great. Your dad's a great guy. I've never met your mom though. Yeah. Yeah, you like she's, I mean, she's out there. Like she's funny. Like she's like, I hate to admit it, but I get a lot of my personality from her for sure. You know, like, she's definitely like that, but also can be a lot. That's hilarious. Yeah. Did you, when you guys were kids, did you, did you guys, your moms have albums of you when you were a baby in the bathtub naked? Was that, that was like a thing back then. And then they put you with, you know, like their friends, friends. They just all naked in there? Yeah. Yeah. So I'm there, that was awkward because at one point, I was single and I came back from Chicago and, you know, they're all trying to play matchmaker and all this stuff because I didn't have a girlfriend. And one of the girls that, you know, I grew up with good friends of the family, all this stuff. Like we got pictures of just us in the bathtub naked and all this stuff and they're like bringing it out and like I'm sitting there and she's like right next to me. It was so awkward, dude. You could totally capitalize on that. I could have. Yeah. I mean, I've been like, hey, you want to. I've already seen you naked. It's grown substantially. You should check it out. That's the angle you would go, I like that. Let's try it again. It's so different. Let's see how different we look now. Yeah. Yeah. Let's put them next to each other. Let's compare contrast. Let's see what happens. Then you wouldn't get in trouble. What are you doing? Mom, I'm just. Why? We're, yeah, we want to see how it all like worked out. You guys encouraged this. Oh, God. My parents did the, on my 16th birthdays, I think I've showed you guys, you remember that? I showed you that picture of me like standing on a table and I'm in red underwear and I'm flexing and I'm like, I must be seven years old or so somewhere around there. And my 16th birthday, I had, we had taken a limo. I had a girlfriend who her parents actually owned a limo. And they took for my 16th birthday. You did a lot of weird shit for being poor. I know. Well, I had a lot of rich friends. That's what I was going to say. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's the move. I would, yeah, no, totally. Right? So I had the. That's the move. You befriended all the rich kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was no dummy. You know, Seth figured that out real early. So I had a girlfriend who was, her dad was a lawyer and so he had, he owned a limo. It was an old one. It wasn't that cool. But it was cool for me, right? It was cool for my 16th birthday. We'd go out to like Chevy's or something, right? And then we'd come back and I count. So I have like 12, I don't know, 12, 15 of my friends and my girlfriend and we'd come walking in the door to my house after we went to Chevy's. And there is a, you know, poster size, you know, 50 by 80, you know, massive thing of me in my underwear. They blew. My mom still has this. She's still got it. Yeah, in storage. Like and she, everyone's probably, she pulls it out and thinks it's so funny. Now you were 16. So was it embarrassing? Because I know now as an adult, you would think it's hilarious and great. But when you're 16, you know, sometimes you get embarrassed. You know what? I've always been, I've always been into self-depreciating humor and because I had crooked teeth. I was poor. I was skinny. You had no choice. Yeah. So I, so I leaned into the hole like making fun of me. And so I had thick skin. So it was funny. It wasn't like it didn't fucking cripple me or traumatize me like forever. It was, it was funny, right? It was whatever. But I was that kid. I was already that kid who did things that was not normal, was okay with people teasing me. Like I learned, I learned that early on. Did you okay with that? Yeah. At one point I figured that out, but it took me a little while. I remember there was this video, went to Hawaii with my cousin's family and some other friends, you know, friends of the family. And so I must have been 13, probably 13 years old and my cousin and I are on the beach and we're trying to figure out how to use a boogie board. Had no idea what we're doing. Actually, in fact, what we did is we put the board on the sand and wait for the wave to get us. So we thought, we thought the wave would pull us in. I don't know what we were thinking. But anyway, I'm out there and I'm in my bathing suit and I'm just skinny, right? I'm an ectomorph, right? So I'm just a skinny kid. And it took me, you know, I'll get so mad when they play that family video of that. It's like, oh, don't show that. It was too skinny. I was like until I was like 16 years old that I finally thought like whatever, not a big deal. But I remember I'll get so mad for like, at least a couple of years. Don't show that video. Oh no, I remember that too. I had the same thing because my mom would film everything. And I was goofing and we used to do a lot of lip syncing and stuff. Because my cousin lived with me for a while. She was like my older sister and she'd get me, you know, dress me up and do all kinds of shit to me. And like we'd like sing songs and stuff. And one time my mom like took a video of us doing all that. And then like, I didn't know. And then she, like we had a bunch of people over watching that and I walk in and it was me, you know, goofing and like, you know, acting a fool. What were you wearing? I was wearing a wig and you know what I'm saying? Like I was like singing some like ridiculous pop song and oh my God. I was like, I was so mad. I was like, you're mom now. And I was like stormed off. I wonder if kids today are less embarrassed because everything is filmed all the time or if it's worse. You know what I'm saying? That's because when you're a kid, you see a video of yourself. When we were kids, if I saw a video of myself, it was not a normal thing. Like the best thing. I think it's worse now because teasing and bullying has always been around, right? Even when we were kids, right? So it's no different. It's just how kids get teased and bullied now. So like if you have a video that gets seen by somebody that's your peer today, I imagine that the kids share and post that shit. Oh, that I can see that. That's really common. Like in high school, my buddy who's the principal, he has to police that. That's like one of the most common things is the way kids bully is they get a picture of a kid that they tease and make fun of. They just draw on it. Yeah, exactly. The way they're eating and then they do, they do shit to it and then they post it or they text it to everybody. It's in the classroom and now everybody's looking at this photo. So yeah, it's like a different type of bullying, right? It's not like we dealt with bullying where somebody, some bully gets in your face and like throws you in the trash can or something. You know what I'm saying? Physically does something to you where it's, I think it's more like a mental warfare for kids today. Which because they don't go away. Two people watch, right? So like it wasn't like the whole school got to see it. You know, now it's like you do something when you post it out there, everybody got it. Well, that's true. I didn't even think of that because, you know, if I got bullied, it was when the bully was there. When the bully wasn't there, there was no. It was one to one. There was no, there was no bullying. And many times he does that privately, right? He can't do that where the teachers are at and lots of kids are at. So, you know, he catches you somewhere by yourself and then you get punked. Yeah, you're safe when you get home or if they're not around. But if it's online, you're not safe anywhere. You're looking at your phone and probably checking, you know, like, oh my gosh, I can't believe this is that. Wow, that would be terrible as a kid. Yeah, no, it's, I mean, it'll be interesting, right? I have a kid who's growing, growing now. So we'll see. And I know you guys are really starting to get into that world. I know both of your kids have, they have phones, right? Just my son. Oh, your son does, your daughter does it. So, you know, I don't, I don't know. When was the last time you asked him stuff like that? You know, like, what's that like? Well, I told you that he, by just association, he got in trouble because he was in this big group thread. And one of the kids on there, I don't remember exactly what happened, but one of the other kids was, you know, basically bullying him through the text with like a few things that he said to him. Bullying your son? No, no, some other kid. Right, right. But my son was in the thread. In the thread, and because my son and other kids didn't jump in to stop it. So this is why he got in trouble. He got, he got in trouble, which, you know, part of me is like, really, he's gonna get in trouble for not, but then the other part of me is like, you know what, that's not a bad lesson. Like if you see something and you're there, you should say, Hey, this isn't cool. But anyway, he got, you know, reprimanded because he didn't jump in with a lot of the other kids. And so there was some bullying that happened. But this was a group text that wasn't online. Online, I'm sure it would have been a lot worse. That's interesting that you, it's a grouped thread, which the kid who's in the thread is obviously, has made the choice to be in the thread. He gets, that's, how is that any different than the bullying that I do with you on a regular basis in our thread? Right, there's four of us in a thread. I talk shit to, you got, we talk shit to each other all the time in there because we're friends. We have each other's cell phone numbers. How is that? Well, this was the conversation I had with my son. As I said to him, I said, number one, if you're, if you're seeing somebody that needs help or whatever, it's a good idea to say something or leave at the very least. But I said also number two, choose the people that you have this kind of relationship with wisely because not everybody's like, we like just us rip each other. If people saw the stuff that we said and did with each other, they'd be mortified. But we, this is the kind of, we think it's hilarious. In fact, when you guys rip on me, it's like, I can't stop laughing. It's the funniest thing ever. But if some people aren't like that, some people get really, their feelings get really hurt or they take it the wrong way. If you watched, and I was gonna bring this up because I watched the breakfast club, the movie, you know, the old school classic, right? And you think it's good, right? Like, yeah, I was like, that's a great movie. And I watched it again and I was like, oh my God, this is a terrible movie. But just a bunch of whiny little wimps. Dude, they're just crying about everything. And this guy was being such a douche, the whole entire movie. You're just like, oh my God, I don't, why was this good? It's because you're a dad now, dude. Yeah, I wanted to slap all of them. Oh no, yeah, that's a classic. Oh my God, watch it again. I've watched it at that. I watch that one probably every year I watch it. I like that one. I do too. It's a, I mean, it represents your... It's like coming of age. Exactly. It represents what you probably were like in high school. Here's what happens. And this is a weird transition that happened to me not that long ago. I used to identify with the kids in the movie. Now I start to identify with the principal. Now I'm like, the kids need to stop. There was a massive shift in my mentality. I was like, what? I can't even put up with this. This whining. Totally. These kids need to stop. Just get your shit together. It's not the movie you've changed. Oh bro, 100%. I'll watch a movie where there'll be some like kids that like, they want to go out and they want to party and drink. And you know, when I was younger, I was like, yeah, this could be cool. Now as a dad, I'm like, these, I hope the parents like, this is terrible. I couldn't imagine if I was that parent. I'd be so angry right now. I know, right? You just associate with someone with the other person. Oh, 100%. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Anyway, so obviously, your guy said today is my birthday. And I was thinking back to when I first started working out and I did the math. I have been working out consistently for 28 years. 28. Almost three decades. What do you think is the longest break in 28 years you've taken? From working out? Yeah. And how many times? Like, how many times have you taken that long of a break? Only injuries. I was going to say, so you've had injury like your shoulder, right? Yeah. Yeah, shoulder. And how much did that put you down? I mean, it was like a couple of weeks. And then I started doing rehab and I would train the rest of my body. When I was doing jiu-jitsu, I didn't lift a lot, but I was still lifting two days a week at least because I was doing a lot of jiu-jitsu. I don't think I've ever taken a break except for when I was injured or sick or something like that. Wow. Yeah, so it's been pretty consistent. But thinking back to the stuff that I learned or the value that I got from it, it's really, yes, I definitely can change my body. I mean, I am a classic hard gainer ectomorph. So I definitely changed that. I think I've definitely had some muscle hyperplasia and things that, you know, like if I never lifted weights, I would still be that hard gainer that I was as a kid. I think it's my natural tendency. But the real value I got is all the others, has nothing to do with the physical stuff. It's all about the like, you know what it reminds me of? Karate kid, when he's waxing the car and painting the fence. Like the lessons he's learning from doing that are go to other places. In that case, it was karate. He doesn't see it initially. He doesn't. So for me, it was like, you know, I learned the lesson of like, you're going to suck at stuff before you get good. And you're probably going to suck at stuff for a long time. But that's okay. Just keep trying. And that you don't get any, there's no real fundamental change or significant change in anything you do unless you're really uncomfortable. Like I learned that. I learned how to have a different relationship with physical uncomfortable, being physically uncomfortable. I think it's crazy that you've gone 28 years and never a whole month. What about you, Doug? I know you, Justin and you too. What's the longest breaks that you guys have had? I've had periods where I've had fairly long breaks. Like when I lived in Japan, I did work out for a while there and then I kind of got out of it for maybe a couple years. So maybe that's about as long. Yeah, Justin. Yeah, I think, well, at least three or four months after football, I was like just, I don't know what it was, but there was just a moment where I was just completely fried because I was so high performance driven. Like I wanted to smash weights every time. And I just, I felt like that was the only way to work out. And so I was just like, I'm going to just step away for a while. And then I was eating and drinking and I got fat as fuck. Yeah, it just happened. And then I just didn't like it. I didn't like the feeling of not being in the gym, not being strong and energetic. And it just got to me. And so I just slowly made my way back. Yeah, I think the longest I've ever gone is probably three to six months but I've done that a few times. Like I can recall several injuries sometimes coming off not that long ago with the testosterone thing and the Achilles injury. Like I've done probably a few times in my life since I started training where I've taken like three months to six months. You know what always brings me back though to your points, Al? It's not, oh my God, look at my body. Like I don't. Totally. It's always like, I sort of feel like lethargic and lazy. It's the mental and emotional effects. And the mood. I start to notice, like always for me when I would take a break, the first couple of weeks are actually almost refreshing. Like, oh, I got all this free time. I have to go to the gym now with this and that. And the next thing I notice is sleeping in longer, you know, tired throughout the day. Like just not, you know, I need to go do something in the afternoon and I've already sat down and I want to get back up. Like you're way less motivated. Yes, I start to notice that and I start to see it bleeding into other aspects of my life. That's what always gets me. That's always goes, you know what? I need to get out of this funk and get back in the gym, even if it's just something real basic, whether it be mobility or rowing or doing something, because that's what starts to eat away at me more than anything else. Yeah, it's, you know, for me, it's just, it's a daily, I don't know, meditation is the best word I could use. I know it's not meditation, but for me, it's, in the same sense, it replenishes me. It, you know, it focuses me, centers me. And so I find that kind of value when I do that. So, but, you know, in the most simplest terms, the way I explain it to clients is, you know, you, all the, the outside world, you receive through this physical body. So everything that you see and feel and hear and perceive has to come through your eyes and your ears and your body, your skin. And so if your body is not healthy, then the, you're going to perceive the world worse and studies show this. People who are fit tend to handle challenges better. They tend to view things more positively. It's a filter. So if your filter is dirty, and you're going to, the air can be clean on the other side, but when it goes into that filter, it's going to smell dirty. So it's like, I want to make myself, at least my physical body, which I can control a lot of, I want to make it so that I perceive things in the best possible way. And that, and that's what, you know, fitness does. I have, I was having an interesting conversation with Courtney about, well, she just got diagnosed with Hashimoto's and we were talking about gut issues. And I just, I can't help but think that the majority of people have gut issues based on what they've been eating over the years. And like, maybe it hasn't really hit them in certain ways that it's like super noticeable. But, you know, because I know so many healthy people that have been able to identify these things now. And I just feel like that, you know, they're, they're become some sort of a new normal, the way that you operate. And you just sort of deal with whatever pain or whatever discomfort or whatever skin issues or all these things. Like you're just, you think that's just a part of you and how you should be, you know, every day. And it's not the case. Totally. Think about this. Think about if, you know, people in your family who you know as a fitness professional or whatever is unhealthy, bad mobility, unhealthy. I have family members like that. Imagine if for a day you could switch bodies. The contrast you would feel would be like, Oh my God, how do you do this? I think it's a slow boil. I think that they slowly get to that point. And they're like, Oh no, I, this is just You don't know what healthy feels like anymore. Exactly. And I'm totally fine. I feel, this is why when you would get clients, how often would you do this? You'd get a client. And especially when you became good as a trainer, right? After five years of training or whatever. And you would do exercises to make them feel less pain and they'd be, their minds would explode. And after a couple months, I didn't realize my back was so stiff and now I can move or, Oh my God, I reached up to grab something and I could totally reach up higher on the cap. Stuff that they just blew their mind because they were so used to how they felt. It's wild. Yeah, yeah. Hey, you know, we talked about this, I think God, it's been probably, I want to say two years or so, maybe a little bit longer when we started to, when did we get HubSpot, Doug? Two years ago? Yeah, at least two years ago. So when we got HubSpot and we were all excited about that coming, I think the stock was trading at about 130 a share around that time. When we got it, when we got it was lower than that. When I bought it was like 130. Yeah, yeah, it was right around there. So it was between 180 and when we were talking about it on the podcast, did you see the news? They just acquired the hustle. One of our favorite newsletters that we've talked about. Do they say how much they paid for it? They didn't say how much they paid for it. They did say, I did read though, how many subscribers that the hustle has. They have like over 1.5 million subscribers that open. And their open rate is ridiculous. You remember when we had him on the show, right, the CEO? Oh yeah. And he talked about their open rate was like well over 40%. They must have a massive email list. That's probably why HubSpot. Over 1.5 million, that's what I just said. So they have over 1.5 million people that are on that list and about half of them are opening that every single day. Wow. Yeah, so it's- Well as of right now, HubSpot is over $400 a share. Oh boy. And now here's my personal opinion. Now full disclosure, I own some HubSpot shares but I believe because HubSpot handles online marketing and siloing your email lists and all that stuff and because so many businesses are online now and will continue to grow. Yeah, it's basically the new standard. Yeah, HubSpot's going to be like an Amazon or a Google because it's one of the best ones. So I think it's still, even at $400 a share, I would say it's a good long play. Speaking of shares, you guys see GW Pharmaceutical? Yeah. What bought for $7 billion? Yeah, so I think it was Jazz Pharmaceuticals. I think that was the name of it. But GW Pharmaceutical for the people that know is a pharmaceutical company that makes cannabinoid-based medicine. So medicine based off of marijuana. They have some of the only approved drugs based off of cannabinoids and they have a huge pipeline of drugs coming through phase one trials, phase two trials. And they got bought and the share exploded. I think it went up 40-something percent. It's trading at over $200 now. So that was a good, I bought that one. I bought that one on a, was a pink sheet. Meaning it wasn't even trading. Oh, you bought it on a pink sheet, huh? Yeah, I had to. It was trading at $9 a share. Wow. And I was, this is when I was deep in the marijuana science, when I was, you know, my family member had cancer and I was studying it. So I'm like, I'm going to buy this. So I just bought a bunch of pink sheets. And I normally stay away from that, right? Because it's such high risk to do something like that. But my buddy Brendan's been telling me to watch this company, Carbon Ion, that just got bought out by the ticker COUV. And I forget the name of the holding company that bought them. And they're trying to take them to the New York Stock Exchange. They have like over, I think, 30 or 60 patents on this battery. Now, how are you buying them on the pink, because I know the online trading, they don't let you buy pink sheets. Yeah, you can. Okay, but you have to go. You just have to do like, there's something I have to change in the, on my E-Trade account. Okay. Do you know what, what's called that? Yeah, I think you have to set a limit. Yeah. So there's some things that I have to do differently. Probably signs to like check something that's like a disclaimer or something like that. Yeah, yeah, you, because they tell, you get like a little warning that this is not on the New York Stock Exchange or whatever. So yeah, but I mean, it's so chatting that it's right around like 40 something cents right now. So it's not a major investment, a major risk for me, but I really like what they're doing. You're talking about batteries, like for car batteries that will last, I think it was up to like 40, 40 something years, something ridiculous. It chart like a car battery will charge within the same time that you would pump gas, the car battery will recharge that fast. That sounds groundbreaking. Oh, it is groundbreaking. Like I sent you an email to read all, read everything that I sent over to you that I'm really interested in. And watching that right now. So it's pretty exciting. Wow, that's really cool. I'm going to look, I know you talked to me about it. I'm going to look a little bit closer into that. Hey, you guys want to hear something like a, I just learned this the other day. I thought it was fascinating. Let's see if you guys, what you guys think about this. So there's these two, there's this Canadian twins. And they're, I can't remember the term that they used for the, Oh, they're, let's see, I wrote it up there. Craneopagus twins. Do you know what that means? Craneopagus, their heads are attached. Their heads are attached. And their brains, Is that what you said, Pegasus? No, the other twins that fly. Yeah, that'd be awesome. No, they're attached at the head. And their brains actually have a connection. That's wild. So they can, they can literally feel what the other person's feeling. That's wild. And they can, they know what the other person's thinking. And they can oftentimes taste, smell or see what the other person's feeling. Dude, how weird would that be? How weird would that be to like be thinking something in a room? And then the twins said the other one, the other twin said something like, no, no, no, I don't like that. Dude, he's like, you messed up. Yeah, dude, that would be wild, right? To have a voice come out and say what you were thinking, right? Well, you're like, you're one, I mean, it's like you're two people, but you share one consciousness almost. I thought that was so fascinating. I had never heard of that before. Never heard of that. That is fascinating. So you can't do anything about it, right? You try and separate it. They might kill them or whatever. Oh yeah, yeah. Wasn't there a case, I don't know, a few years back, I thought I remember, maybe we even talked about it, where a doctor was the first doctor to actually separate those. Oh, I don't think it was this kind of... I think it was. They were attached to twins. No, they were attached to the head. Really? Yeah, look it up. I don't know what you would Google to find that, but I'm pretty sure. Yeah, but they probably didn't share thoughts. Oh yeah, no, I didn't read anything like that. I don't think they were that. Maybe they weren't that connected. There was one pair of conjoined twins where they were on TV for a while, and then they would date. I thought that was very interesting because one of them had a boyfriend. So what is the other one? I guess the other one's just there when they... Just kind of just crossword puzzles. Yeah, yeah. Like, what are you doing? Are you guys done yet? Yeah. What is this? Rare set of conjoined twins successfully separated in 24-hour surgery at UC Davis. Wow, that's fascinating. You know, conjoined twins very... You're right, they were attached to the head. Look at that. Yeah. Very sad story with conjoined twins. The history, they almost always were... The only way they could make a living for themselves was to be in a circus and have people pay to look at them. I know, I missed that. Very sad, yeah. Interesting too, very fascinating. Anyway, it's pretty crazy stuff. Yeah. Did you guys see Beyond Meat talking about stocks, right? Just shot up like 31% because they did a joint venture with Pepsi. Oh, wow. That's like... So the new thing right now, it's not new. Like, it's been happening, I feel like. It's like cocaine partnering with heroin. No, I mean, we saw... Remember the Super Bowl last year? I think it was Doritos and Sprite partnered up. Like, so you're starting to see a lot of these companies that you would think are kind of competitors. Like, if they're in food and beverage, you would consider that a competitor. But I mean, they're enough different that they're starting to see these companies partner up. And so I find it interesting that Pepsi is doing something with Beyond Meat. And I think that's going to be... You'll see commercials probably this year coming out. Wow. Well, that's... I mean, it makes sense. It makes sense to partner up to fast foods or snack foods or whatever. Yeah. But Beyond Meat, for me, is just... Say, how can we make meat unhealthy? Yeah. Oh, let's make it... Let's invent it out of all these parts and pieces. Do you even grill it or is it like some microwave? Well, no, you grill it and it's... Technologically, it's fascinating. They engineered the shit out of plant products to make it like bleed and taste like meat. So it's still drips and everything. Yes. Like a... Yeah. So it tastes good. The macros are the same as meat. So it's not like it's lower calorie. It's less healthy. It's literally heavily... You eat a burger. It's vegetable oil. Well, the ingredients of burger is meat. It's like just beef. Right? The ingredient... Get yourself a Beyond Burger. Flip it. Look at the ingredients. There's like... 500 things. Yes. Yeah. It's like advanced science. Half of them you can't pronounce. Well, yeah, it's a match nature. Yeah, they need a ton of ingredients. So you got to ask yourself, why would a company do that? Is the market for not eating meat that big? Maybe. Or how can we sell a burger patty and patent it so nobody else can sell a burger patty? Yeah, that's... Or both. Right, right. I mean, think about it. You can't patent a beef patty, but you can patent a Beyond Burger. Nobody else has that crazy technology. I saw another interesting... Doug, would you Google this for me so I make sure I get my facts right? Domino's merges with... Partners with streaming service. I'm pretty sure I read this somewhere. That would be smart where you're watching Netflix and would you like a pizza? So yeah, I think... I can't remember where this... I came across this, but Domino's has made a lot of technological moves. They have. And they've rebranded it a couple of times. Like, it would be... You know what, that would be a fun CEO to talk to. That would be so weird for me. I feel like they've had automated... Their Epic self-driving vehicles that's working on to deliver pizza. I thought that was smart. Yeah. It's giving out... Domino's giving out free 30-day movie streaming subscriptions if you order a pizza online. Well, that's smart. Isn't that? Yeah, you know I've never had a Domino's pizza? So, Epic's used to be forgettable. Epic's is the old Cinemax? Am I getting that right? Epic, so I have that streaming service. They do... Remember, Justin, I introduced you to the Batman, the prequel with the bubba and stuff like that? Yeah, on Epic's. Pennywise. So that is... I believe they used to be a different company. I don't remember. Epic's, huh. Cinemax, that was the... I think it was Cinemax. That was the channel watch after 10 p.m. remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cinemax? Yeah, who is it? It's American Premium Cable and Satellite Television Network that is owned by Epic's Entertainment, a subsidiary of Metro Golden Mayor, MGM. Oh, MGM. Yeah, so... Pennyworth, yeah. Oh, Pennyworth. When I say Pennywise... What company owns Epic's? Click on that and see... Stars, that's what it was. Oh, so Stars is now becoming Epic's. Got it, got it. How many... So Adam, how many of these individual channels do you pay for? Is it like your gym membership that you still have? Bro, yeah, I'm really bad with this stuff. So I have Epic's. I have the ESPN one. I have Sling. I have Hulu. I have Netflix. I have... HBO. HBO Max. Yes, Cinemax. Regular HBO. Disney. Showtime Disney. Thank you, Doug. Goddamn, I should probably add all these up. Yeah. Probably paying way more than what I used to be paying. Dude, they got us finally. I don't know, bro. I mean, even if you were to add all those up, because some of those like... ESPN was an extra $4.99. Disney's like $9. Dude, it used to be like $200 something. Yes, no. My cable bill was $250 or $2. Yeah. A month. And then when football season came around and I would get the Sunday ticket, it would shoot that up to like $400 or $500 for the next three, four months. Wow! That's crazy. That's crazy. No, I had no idea. So I paid a lot of money for cable before. So even though I have all of those streamers, and I could probably get rid of some of them that I don't use very often, I still think it's unbelievable. Do you have what's called YouTube Red? I don't. I have YouTube's. I didn't. Yeah. I know you guys. Well, it's... I don't. Well, it's like if you have Hulu, there's no real point. You need one streaming service like that though, so you can actually get like real channels still. That's my sling. So sling does that also. So I have Hulu and you know there's a great show on Hulu called Big Sky. Have you heard of this? It's ABC. It's an ABC film and it's really good. You guys should check it out. It's like a cop thriller. I don't know. Your recommendations are suspects. No, this is good. I'll let Doug or Justin check you out. Yeah, go get it. Listen, Justin and I tend to be on the same page. I got him on the Bob Lazar. We were listening on the drive home interview with Joe Rogan. That was crazy. It is so crazy. I'm going to watch that documentary now. So detailed. I don't know. Like it's probably the most compelling UFO thing. Yeah. Are you guys watching our YouTube channel right now? Man, more and more people are watching the podcast now on the YouTube channel. It's going great. I see Callan's episodes blowing up already right now. So... He's a fun guest, man. I think we're going to start doing more things over there. I mean, I don't know if we've announced it on the podcast or not, but you know, we're what? Every Monday a vlog gets released right now on the Mind Pump TV channel. So if you're not subscribed to the Mind Pump TV and Mind Pump podcast channel on YouTube, do that. We're starting to really produce more content for that. See what you guys like. Our first question is from DavidGTZ09. What's in Sal's bag? Oh, I'm so glad we're addressing this now. Oh, Doug, why'd you do that? After, you know what? After we talked about on the show, I must have got a bajillion freaking DMs. I am getting sick of it. I know. I'm like, I don't even care that bad, but now we have to get this done with. So come on, pull your corner. I just hope you don't have any methods. Pull your purse out and let me see what you got in there. Okay, so here's the deal. If you didn't know this, there was a previous episode where Adam... Because I have a bag that's got supplements in it and they tend to take it with me. It's a cute little lemon bag that he carries in there. Just because it was a bag that I grabbed and that's what I used. It was Jessica's bag. We did one thing there and he, you know, came out with it. But I, you know, I carry it into the studio and I have supplements in there and... You have a lot of supplements in there. I do. I don't use them all all the... Well, it depends. I'll go, you want me to go through them? Not only do I want you to go through them, but I want you to, as you go through them, because you have some weird shit in there, I believe, please tell the audience and us what it is and why you take it. All right. Yeah. There's gotta be a reason for each thing. Yeah, yeah. I'll hold it up. So there's the red bag that you guys are making fun of. All right. I'll start with the first thing. Let's see. Okay. Here's the first thing. This is a baby on board. What? Sign. Okay. So there's a story behind it. Are you a guy that actually sticks that in his window every time? I'm supposed to stick this on my window. Jessica put it in here to stick on the window. And I didn't. And then a week later, there's a sticker on the window that says baby on board. So Jessica 1 sal 0. Oh my goodness. Wow. Still in there. All right. I'll go through. I'll just grab the first thing. So this is a psyllium husk, which is a fiber supplement. And now everybody knows I struggle with gut issues here and there. So I tend to take psyllium husk after two or three meals to help. Now, do you take that every day or do you own it? Oh, you do. I do. And I haven't, it's if I don't. It doesn't matter whatever you're eating too. It's just like it has to happen. If it's a big meal, if it's a snack, no big deal. But if it's a big meal, and what happens if I don't is I start to develop SIBO again. And so I'm in this constant struggle. Although right now I'm doing pretty well, but I still take this. So I'll take like five or six of these after a meal. So there you go there. Five or six after every meal? After usually lunch and dinner. So 10 of those a day? Yeah, but they're small. It's not a big deal. Okay. I don't worry about that. Okay, well we just got, hey, we just got started. We're already at 10 pills. And then this is moved to the powders. This is Paleo Valley's NeuroFact. So it's one of their. Oh, how do you like that? I haven't tried that. I've been trying it. I've been taking it consistent. So I have it in here so I can remember to take it and try it out. And I think I like it. I think I am noticing that I've got, I'm a little bit sharper. So it's got, it's got much, you know, compounds and things in there that help with brain function. Okay. How different, because I know one of our favorites is Organifize Pure. How different is it from that? You know, it's different ingredients. Oh, it is completely different. Yeah. It's got some different ingredients. Okay. I'll have to try that then. So you can use them both. Okay. Like I would. Use them both. Comb it. And then this, so this right here, actually I gave some of these to Justin over the weekend. It's a purple bottle. And he likes them. Oh yeah. What is that? It's got an embarrassing name, by the way. I asked you for that and then Courtney ordered them for me. Yeah. What is it? So if you have a rectile dysfunction, I'm just kidding. So here's the deal. Hey man, you're not supposed to disclose that. So here's the deal. If you have IBS or gut issues, sometimes it's due to bacteria back up in the gut. And so you can do is you can take natural antimicrobials. So this has peppermint oil, ginger, fennel oil in these capsules. You take it 30 minutes before you eat. And so essentially when you eat, you don't get this bad bacteria that can cause problems. So I'll take this about 15 to 30 minutes before I eat a meal. How many of those pills? One. Okay. Yeah, one before. But I gave some to Justin too when he had that sandwich. What did you think? Oh, it totally worked. Oh wow. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't get any answers. And how much different is that than like taking like a probiotic? Totally different. Okay, it's totally different. Probiotic or beneficial bacteria. These are antimicrobials. These you take them and they kill bacteria. Okay. So it's like a natural. Got it. Antibiotic essentially. Essentially. All right. Then the next thing I got here is my Ned hemp oil, which I love. I love taking this during the day. It's good for kind of chills meow. If I take it with caffeine, I get this really, really good focus. Yeah, that's the move. Yeah. So I'll use this maybe a few, maybe maybe two or three times a week. Would you say you use the regular hemp which you're holding right now more than the sleep? Yeah. In fact, I have two of the sleep bottles in this plastic bag because they are oil. So I have those. And I'll take that at night for sleep sometime. If you don't use them you can pass them over to your boy. I know you jumped on the last batch I got here. I'm with you. Once I got introduced to sleep, I use the sleep like 90% of the time. I rarely use- So good for me. The hemp anymore because I- You were using it for sleep? I was. I was mostly using it to calm me down at night to get a better night's rest. And once they came out with that sleep blend, dude, that's like another lesson. It started taking an hour before I go to bed too. So that way, yeah. Because before I would do it like 10, 20 minutes beforehand, not as good. The combo with the sleep and making sure you have your blue blockers on at night, like- It's powerful. I go to- I do dinner, I do dinner like around 7 o'clock or so or 7.30ish. And then right after that, I'm taking that and I have my blue blocker and I'm telling you about an hour later, I'm like yawning and like ready for bed. It's so nice because you're just like, oh man, I'm really tired. I'm just gonna go to bed now. That's why I save it. So I don't use it every night because I feel like if I do that it maybe loses effect. So I'll use it like a couple of nights a week and I'll get, like I'll sleep hard. And I dream a lot. Do you guys dream a lot when you take it? Yeah, well I definitely get deep sleep. Yeah, very, very deep. Okay, so there's that. And then I always have some of the Organifi green juice packets with me. Yeah, clutch. Yeah, because you know, if I don't get vegetables or whatever, I'll drink one of these. This just, it just feels good. This is probably one of the more consistent supplements I'll take. As long as we've been with Organifi, I've probably used green juice. Now there's a lot of controversy around green juices. Why is that? Why do some people hate on it so much? Because they'll say things like just eat your vegetables. No shit. Vegetables are superior. Okay, if you're trying to drink a green juice because you think it's going to be as good as eating vegetables, you're an idiot. But if you miss vegetable intake sometimes, which we all do, then these are clutch. Yeah, and also the serving amounts that you should probably be ingesting, like Dr. Terry Walls, like her standards, like good luck trying to cram that meat. Vegetables in a day. Yes, totally. So and then, if I don't do like a specialized pre-workout or whatever, I'll take caffeine with theanine. So this is just, and no association with a lot of these brands, by the way. It's just, I like caffeine with theanine. It feels the best. I've talked about this on the podcast. And then if you combine this. I didn't even know they make a supplement that actually had it combined. We always used to take them separate. Yeah, you could take them separate. Or if you know, obviously I have a lot of bottles in here. I don't want extra bottles in here. I buy it so that it comes like this. And then I'll combine it sometimes with AlphaGPC, which gives me the best, like focus, the best focus. Now, would you, now, would you do that? You wouldn't do that at the same time you did that. What was the other, the neuro effect from Paleo? That's probably too much or you're messing with it. No, it's not too much. I have done that. That's a good time. Oh, it's not too much. Yeah, that's a really, that's a really, that's a really good time. Yeah. And then the last thing lately, I've been using a lot of the element. This is the Rob Wolf. I'm on, I'm on two times. I did it again. So are you guys noticing better pumps and stuff like that? I'm on two. I had a good workout with it so far. I'm saving my, I'm saving my review until I've got enough consistent days to tease it out with other stuff. We'll see. So far, so good. I'll tell you what though, I did the chocolate one last time and somebody was like, Oh, have you tried that in coffee? And I hear the, combining it with the cold brew. Just did that this morning. How was it? It was epic. It was so good with nitro. Oh my God. Oh yeah. So you and Doug both did that. Yeah. Super tasty. Yeah. So that's, that's basically it. I don't take this stuff every, the stuff I take the most consistently is the gut stuff because I eat every single day. Green juice would probably be the, the other one. The Ned is just the best hemp oil product that I've ever used. I've used probably 30 different hemp CBD type products and nothing compares to hemp, excuse me, to Ned in terms of the effects. But that's pretty much it. Most of the stuff, I just carry it with me because I'm a weirdo. So thanks for calling me out, you fucks. Hey, that's what we're here for. Next question is from Dan Yo 1212. Can I build mass only with 50 pound dumbbells? This is a good question. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely you can. Now I guess the real question is what happens when I get so strong that the 50 pound dumbbells start to feel light? Try a six second negative and get back to me. I was just going to say, there's a whole lot of variables we can play with. There's many ways to make a weight heavier. Remember your body doesn't really know you're lifting 50 pounds. It just knows the tension. One way to make a weight heavier is to add weight. Like duh. The other ways to go slower, change your form. Some metrics. Yeah. Hold the squeeze. Yeah, hold it in certain positions. Hold the stretch. I did this last week with squats. I had some weight on the bar and rather than going heavier, I just held the bottom position for five seconds. I love that, right? So one of my favorite exercises, and it's about 50 pounds is what I do this with, is incline alternating dumbbell press. And I either hold at the bottom or I hold at the top and I switch that up. So I'll do an isometric hold at the top where I'm squeezing my chest with the other ones going down and I'm alternating back and forth like that. Or I'll do the opposite where I'm holding down in the stretch position and then I'm pressing. But you're maintaining tension. Exactly. You're not like resting it. Yeah, no, it's isometric. So you're getting that. We talk about the benefits of that and a lot of people don't include that in their workout. That's a great way to include in your workout. And a great reason to do it is because you don't have the weight to scale up. Interesting story, right? So during World War II, there weren't a ton of gyms, but there was definitely, at the time, there was a developing muscle-building culture where you had some guys that would like to lift weights to develop and build their body, especially in Southern California and some places on the East Coast. During World War II, there were rationing steel, right? They needed it to produce planes and bombs and weapons. And so it was hard to get weights that were heavier than, I don't remember what the weight was, but a certain amount. It was just too expensive, too hard. You couldn't get it. So at the time, the bodybuilders started experimenting with super slow motion. These are called super slow motion reps where they'd go really slow. So you got these guys that are used to lifting 200 or 300 pounds. Now all they have is 100 pounds. What can they possibly do? That's exactly what they did. They slowed the reps down. And what came out of that was the understanding that you could develop your body with these different novel ways of training. And it became a whole form, a whole way of exercise. Oh, there's still, there's a lot of camps around that way of training. So I'll never forget, this was my, I want to say, second or third boss when I was just getting into training. And he was probably 25. I'm only like 19, 20 at this time. And I remember he's great, great shape. In fact, he competed. But the way he trained was the super slow technique. Everything he did was that. So he would take a weight. And he would, I mean, he would just go as slow as possible. And sometimes it'd only be three reps. And he would come, it would take the muscle to failure that way under control. And a guy looked phenomenal, dude. And that's how he trained. And up into that point, I never kind of bought into that. I wasn't doing any isometric stuff I was never really paying attention to the eccentric motion and going really slow. After meeting him, that changed my training. And I started to play around with it. And then I started to dig a little bit deeper. Yeah, you guys talk about slow nice. You can also like move really fast with them. You can, you can do dumbbell snatches. You can do cleans. You can do a lot of things where you're getting fast twitch activation with those 50 pounds and you know, get a whole new stimulus. Completely. Again, there's so many ways to make a weight feel heavy. You don't need to add weight every single time. You look at guys in prison when they start, especially in California, when they took weights out and they couldn't lift anymore, they would experiment with stuff like this. And it was like in the guards, a lot of the guards were like, damn, what do we do now? Because these dudes are still jacked. Oh, and imagine, and you know, you throw out some cool stuff. Like take a 50 pound dumbbell chest press and then super set that with explosive push-ups. Exactly. Right afterwards. I mean, there's a lot of cool things. You know, Katrina and I, we're getting ready to move soon. And so we're actually ordering a PRX for the house because we'll be far from the gym here. And I told her just to get up to 50 pound dumbbells. Exactly what she's like, you know, let's get some dumbbells too. And I'm like, ah, you know what? We don't need a whole set of them. I got plenty at the studio. And as long as I got up to 50s there, I know I can get a great workout still. So, I mean this. For when you do your really heavy training. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, honestly, it's funny that, you know, we were talking about a question like this and that was something that we literally were talking about last night about only getting those. You know, sometimes I do better when I, this is all I have to work with. Totally. Versus knowing that there's a bunch of weight and the desire, because I want to lift heavy. It's just, I think it's, it's. There seems to be more intent around your workouts that way. Yeah, yeah. And you know what, when you have to move slow and control like that because you don't have. Your form is going to be way better. Way better, less likely to get hurt and injured. And most people need to throw that type of training in there every once in a while. So no, there's a lot of value to this. Next question is from Chels Fit Diary. How should someone adjust their macros and caloric intake as they hit plateaus for weight loss? How do you know when it's time to make an adjustment before hitting a plateau? Okay. So calories you adjust when the weight loss stops. So if your weight loss stops, you're not burning any more body fat, typically, and there's a lot of different ways to do this, you would just reduce the calories even more. Now, obviously you can see where this tends to end up. If you keep doing that, eventually you might get to your goal but now you're stuck at super low calories. So I tend to stagger this. I'll cut the calories and I'll throw in a few days of higher calories. This tends to stoke the metabolism a little bit and prevents that what's called metabolic adaptation. But in plain English, you would reduce the calories when the weight loss stops. And if you're trying to gain, you would bump them when the weight gain stops. As far as macros are concerned, this is where I like to have a lot of fun. You can keep 2,000 calorie, low carb diet versus a 2,000 calorie, high carb diet feels very different on the body, feels very different in your gut. This is where you can start to have a lot of fun. I like to do this with myself sometimes, not change the calories, change the macros, see how I feel, and sometimes this actually triggers more effects in my body. So that's macros, totally different from calories. You can keep the calories the same, adjust the macros, calories adjust according to how your body responds. This is a really good question, but it's also a really hard one to answer without a lot of stuff that I'd want to ask this person. And the reason why is because if I decide which direction I'm going to go with my calories with somebody, even if your goal is like fat loss, weight loss, right? That's your main goal. I might actually go up right here if you're already really low. So for example, let's just say, and I'm helping somebody with their nutrition right now, and she weighs about 145 to 150. And we were just coming off of a cut not that long ago. And we did, she was up to, I think I had her up to about 25 originally. We hit a plateau. I dropped her down to 22. She hit another plateau. We dropped down to 1,800. Hit another plateau. Now I went the other direction. And the reason why I went the other direction is because now I'm getting to a place where I want her to be able to eat 2,000 plus calories when we get her body to where she wants to sustain it, because that's a realistic amount of food that she can sustain for a really long time. If you get in the game of every time you hit a plateau, you drop calories, you drop calories, you drop calories, eventually you get to this place of eating 1,300 calories and you feel like you're starving. And yeah, you might have reached close to your goal or even hit your goal, but then you're at a place where you're like, I can't, that's not enough food for me. You would eventually go back up. So sometimes when we have a plateau like this, even with someone who's weight loss, what I just recently did to this girl is I said, okay, we're going to bump your calories. I'm going to add 250 calories a day and let's go in and we're going to move your training into a strength phase or I'll switch the programming that we're currently doing and our goal now is let's build some strength, let's build some muscle, let's do that for a few weeks and then we'll go back and we'll cut back down on calories. And so it really depends on where this person's metabolism is. If I would give them the recommendation of cutting calories or actually potentially increasing calories. Totally, that's really good information. As far as protein is concerned, that's probably the one macro I manipulate the least, but I still manipulate it. If I have someone that's high protein consistently for months, sometimes I'll throw in a low protein day and what I noticed with that is it almost resensitizes the body to protein. Some studies suggest that this actually might happen where if you eat a lot of protein all the time, your body becomes a little less efficient with it. So it uses more of it for energy, less of it for muscle. You throw in like a fast or something like that for a day or two, throw protein back in your diet and all of a sudden the protein becomes more, for lack of a better term, anabolic. But the fat and carbs are the ones I'll manipulate most regularly. Next question is from Connor Flynn. We often talk a lot about people not having enough mobility, but what if you have the opposite problem and your joints are actually hypermobile? How do you correct this issue? I always feel, I feel like we get this exact same question like once every about three or four months. Three or four months, yeah. When we're talking about mobility, mobility, mobility, there's always somebody who's hypermobile that ends up asking this question. They can get in these positions super easy, but yeah, it might not feel as stable as we'd like. That's it. That's it right there. I want to change the terminology here. So when we talk about mobility, what we're talking about is not just your ability to get to a full range of motion, but it's to do their full range of motion, have control, strength, and stability within it. When we talk about mobility, that's what we're referring to. Yeah, this person thinks is confusing it with flexibility. Well, no, instability, right? So when this person has long ranges of motion, so they're super flexible, and they also have no strength or stability. So hypermobile in this sense, what they're trying, what they're communicating is instability with long ranges of motion. I've worked with clients like this, and it's a totally different challenge. Now, the key with this is to increase your strength and not go to your end ranges of motion because you have such bad stability. So if I have someone like this who's got this hyperless long range of motion, they're unstable, I'm not gonna have them do astagrass squats. Even though they could sit down there, they're so unstable, they're gonna hurt themselves. I'll actually have this person will put weight on their back that they can control, and I'll have them stop just below 90 degrees, hold it for a second, and then come back up. Try and build strength in a shorter range of motion. Once I feel strong and stable in that range of motion, then I lengthen it, and then I lengthen it, and over time, now they're doing their full range of motion. Yeah, this is where, I mean, I've had some clients like this, some gymnastic clients that have come in with hypermobility, and what we focus on the most is really being able to access this muscular tension, to be able to really ramp that up with isometrics or with kin stretch type movements, where it'll basically put you in some of these extreme ranges of motion, but now how do you get out of that? How can you squeeze and connect to the muscle to gather the strength, to really stabilize around the joint and feel like you have that strength and control, and so just gradually sort of taking them through different angles with their joints, but making sure that we're really irradiating, we're getting a lot of this muscle tension to respond, and then start to load, but really having to make sure that the joints feel like they're stabilized and secure before they really go through that. Now, is this an area where you guys would agree that you see value in some instability training, right, where you have somebody who may be on foam pads that are going in a deep or dynadisk and are squatting really deep on these unstable environment or tools in order to get them to build a little bit of... Depends how bad the stability is. I actually, I worked with this lady who, she had no background in dance, she had no background in stretching, she was just born this way, and she was also very weak. By the way, strength is the solution to this problem. So she was weak, but super flexible, and her stability was so bad that if I put her in a deep squat, I mean, I felt like if I pushed her the wrong way, her joint would have come out of socket, right? So with her, it was short ranges of motion and strength and stable. We had to be stable because she had such poor... She was so weak that if we did anything on an unstable surface, it was like an injury. She was like a noodle, right, like a baby is. In fact, that's a good example. Babies are, have long ranges of motion, no strength. Like if you ever take a baby's feet, put it by their head, move them around, like super flexible, obviously no stability. If a baby tried to support any weight, they would obviously injure themselves. Little gummies. Yeah, so this is... So strength, strength is, get strong, but don't use your full range of motion. You have, you don't have enough strength to support full ranges of motion, and you're asking for problems. So this is one of the few cases I would say, limit your range of motion, get strong in that short range of motion. Then when you feel strong in that short range of motion, now extend it like a couple more inches. Take it incrementally. That's it. I, you guys mentioned gymnast. I actually, so I trained quite a few people like this, but it was all, you know who it was for me, were like your hardcore yoga people. Yes. If you were, if you, I got quite a few that were, you know, they'd just love yoga, they've done yoga their whole life, but never strength trained before. So they were like super flexible, but they had no strength and control when I take them through like a squat or a lunge or a basic exercise. So that's where I found it more common. Those were the clients that I think ended up having that. Totally. You see a lot of hip, a lot of hip problems in those types of practitioners. Now I'll argue that proper yoga, when you do it properly, it actually will increase your stability with the ranges of motion. But the way that sometimes people do yoga here, especially in America, is they do these yin classes where they sit in these long static stretches or they get in poses and they allow their joints to support them rather than stay active. Yeah, they relax and it's more meditative. The goal is for them to get to a range of motion, not to increase their strength throughout the range of motion. Yeah, because if you take a yoga like from a really good instructor, they'll tell you like when you get in a pose, they'll say, draw your energy in or push out. What they literally mean is activate your muscles. Don't just let your joints support you. Because if you do that, you get flexible, but then you have no strength and you end up developing instability. 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