 Welcome Fabio. Thank you. How are you doing? Thanks for coming on the show. The shape to be hit. I've had a great time with Fabio in the No Limit Society. He's been an incredible agent. I got our dog barks in the background. Is that your dog? Neighbors? There's both. Fabio is located in Brazil. He might be the only No Limit Society member in Brazil. Could I ask someone? Maybe probably someone will enter. Because there was a Brazilian in the Costa Rica retreat. So maybe that person can join as well. Yeah, Rafael. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Technically there's a confirmed second Brazilian. Yeah. Fabio has had this great presence in NLS where he carries both a very relaxed and empty vibe. And then also a very just authentic and unapologetic mirroring, reflecting, direct pointing. And it's been really important. So I'm pumped. Fabio, will you tell us about your experience with awakening through the Veilless Veil? It started when I was 17. Now I'm 35. But that moment I was getting at the university that I used to work at. And I was walking and suddenly I just, something shifted inside me. Like, I want to get better. I don't know how, why, just wanted to. And after that moment people began to show up, books, these kind of things I was looking for, searching for. Then suddenly friends that were spiritual, but I didn't know about it. They began to know each other. And then like the mother, one of them also was really into spirituality. She lent me books to learn. So I was eager to read and to understand and to get more knowledge. I remember she was the first that told me about the I.M. But I didn't get it at the time. So I keep looking, studying, more people showing up. Then I went, I met some people. They had meetings. There was a medium. He would channel these spirits. And I remember that a few of them were already pointing to the path I am right now. But I didn't get it at the time. And so this group went for around seven years until this medium passed away. So this medium was like a father to me. It was really hard. I entered in around six months, really dark night. Some suicidal thoughts started coming. And so I could perceive those thoughts. It's why I'm thinking about that. And then I just decided to, okay, I don't want it. I'm going to change it somehow. So I began to search for things to increase my energy. Vegetarianism. Veganism. Just searching. Also how to breathe. Pranayama techniques. Then I discovered about this Britannian process. I already knew this process. Because a friend many years ago earlier had taught me about it. Then I began studying on Saturday about this Britannian process. And on Wednesday I just went for it. Okay, I'll try one day and let's see what happened. That night spirit came inside my bed. Like showing, encouraging me to follow this process. The next day another two spirits came. Then I realized, okay, I'm going to do it. So I did the process. Totally changed my life because it was a process to deconstruct so many thought, patterns, emotions. It talks fine about it. It was amazing. So until it's been five years now, since this process, and I still follow this way to balance my energy to gain more knowledge and consciousness about how my body, how these patterns come. So it's a tool to help me. People usually think about it as, if you do the process, you should stop eating. You must never eat again. But it's just another trick of your mind. So you need to release this resistance as well, this belief that you should not eat. And after that this process, many other things, many other paths open to me. Like the presence, Bantinga Masaru, Ekartou and many others. So I started to pursue this emptiness, this awareness. And this is how I can change this direction. I can maybe sometimes slow down, but always this direction. My final destination, my final one, because we don't have a destination, but it's to realize the absolute. I can't shake it off. Even sometimes comes some fear, but I face it until I overcome it. This is a short version of it. I love the mysterious ways that Source works with itself, because with its creations, it has this playful way of revealing itself to itself. And so you're just, you know, 17, just chilling in your algorithms. And then it's like, what the fuck just changed? Like, wait, what? Like, there's something more to this than the algorithms that I was just in the script. And I love that. And then sort of the, you know, like, okay, well, what is this about? Like, what is I? Who am I? What is reality? What is spirituality? And then the slowly over time, like, wait, that's what spirituality? Look at all these people that are doing this and that and the medium, the channeling, all this type of stuff to slowly guide you more and more towards what you're bathing in now with Bantino and several others where you do feel the very I am-ness, the very empty I am-ness that is the eternal awareness that's impersonal and that is witnessing and playfully engaging in its creations that are endless. And we are that which makes even the great I am. We are the very source of that as well. Yeah, it's interesting because from that group, maybe just one person began to follow this path of presence and because I talk about it with him, the first time I was explaining this presence, his emptiness, he thought that I was totally crazy. But then new things started to show in his life and he opened more to it and now he's follow a little bit at least from this presence. But the others, they don't accept really well. Imagine somebody walked up to you when you were 17 and was just like, hey, have you ever thought about just being? He'd be like, what are you talking about? What do you mean becoming aware of awareness or becoming aware of the fact that I exist? Well, maybe being, I could acknowledge because after the last years I could remember many situations in my life because my life wasn't really a paradise. You had the drill sergeant of awakening, suffering come in there a bunch. Yeah, and during my, when I was a teenager, I remember sometimes I'd like to lay down in a hammock and just staring at the sky, blue sky. And I completely forgot of everything. It was so light at that moment. It was, so every time after lunch I would go there too to just relax and how it's so good to be here at this moment. And it was, because I was assessing, I was just being. It was the presence, so it was so good. Yeah. And so even though we get these little tastes or glimpses of it, it doesn't normalize. We don't really abide in it until we really taste at a more higher level what it means to be awakened, to be truly conscious of the fact that we exist. Just really tapping in more and more repeatedly to the very awareness of awareness, awareness of being, awareness of I am, I exist. And you like it like we're so conditioned to not recognize it. And so even if we get this little glimpse on the hammock laying out that it ends up becoming more and more of wow, it's like beautiful water. It's like a beautiful conversation with Fabio right now. And more and more beautiful, my very respiration itself. Beautiful, this very flower shirt, the peony. Beautiful, this very tennis ball that I use to stretch all of these things that we just algorithmically move, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but never to, I am God. I am the beautiful will that is shared among us in Lila in the divine exploration of this universe. I am the creator of this Lila just to, and you see there's all these little bit more macro level stages because you can get to the I am that I exist and you don't realize that that's impersonal among us all. Right. So there's these little Mac or like I created the universe for this exploration, but you can still, you could be stuck at the I am without knowing that. It's funny because during this journey I read many times I need to be grateful of the little things and I started to, to try it. Okay, let's be grateful. But I would see things, but I couldn't really relate because I was seeing it with the mind. So it was a heaviness. Now I, when I empty myself, it just being, it's like the other things don't actually exist. Yes. Yes. It's all a perception. Yeah. And then everything is light. Do you not need to differentiate things? Yes. Yes. And even words is so limited. Yeah. You try to use words to point something, but it's not really worth it. You can't really describe it. This is a lot easier, the tennis ball, than trying to describe what love is. Yeah. Good luck using language for that one. Yeah. Think about it from the dream perspective too. When you dream, you simulate the observer and the reality. Where's the separation? There is none. Where is the, this is a tree and this is a house and they're made of different things. Nope. Just made of energy, just like this. The very same no-thingness. What I like to, this year, I was with a group of friends and there was a dog and I was seeing them and they're seeing how I love them. And I was okay. What's, do I love them in different ways or different amounts? So I was in my mind just put everyone one side the other, even the dog. In every single one of them, I would love the same way with the same intensity. I couldn't differentiate. The only difference is that the way I resonate with them, like the vibration, like the symphony, because the love was the same for all. That's another way to put it is that you begin seeing everything as that same God's love light lila but then there are different resonances which is why, for example, you're wearing your green jacket and why I'm wearing this peony shirt and why I use this tennis ball on my wrist and why you feel a different connection to the light that is your mother or your father than you feel the different connection of light that is somebody on the street. But you still have the same love light recognition for it but why is it that there's such a multi-year, long, energetic resonance with your family member? And so then there's that distinguishing. It's light in relationship to itself. So it's all light but different relationship to itself. All energy, different relationship to itself. Which is exactly how the creationary play would go. It goes from a zero to a one, the all-inclusive awareness, and to a two-plus. You get your two poles ascending and playing together and you get this refraction into infinity of all of the possibilities of colors, of expressions, of forms, complete light, just totally complete, totally always complete, totally always free, totally always creative, totally always aware and comprehending itself but it requires one to fully recognize that that is happening in order for them to not be distracted by the layers of distortion. So you don't know it's comprehending itself but you don't know because you're in the bubble, you're in the contracted energy state. It's comprehending the fact that you are in your contracted state but in order for you to know that you are it comprehending your contracted state, you have to turn inward. There's no other way to know the data point. The space is like to get deeper as you go, as you deconstruct yourself. And sometimes you think you're not like progressing but then suddenly you take a great step, a big step and then you can notice the difference in a more popular way. And the entire objective of the creation is to explore and play with itself creatively and archically with a desire with an intention to see what unfolds that hasn't unfolded before. So you are literally being called non-stop to both go inward as the GPS callback to commune with the true nature and yet also to express yourself from source outward as a firework. That's why you get the Fabio and this gets the Atlas and this gets the Paola and that gets the Carina, etc. And that's why one of you likes the flower shirts and the other one likes the tennis balls and the other one likes the drawing. Each one with the unique way of expressing and the more you go within, the more you stay within practicing, writhing your attention inside. Also your expression of yourself, your individuality comes like develops in a better way. You can express it more naturally because you're not blocking anything. You're clearing the way with that. Another way to say it is that you clean out the channel or the pipe, the pipe itself for the individuation to be in pure service to the creation rather than with the blockages in the way you're getting very little signal for the love light service to others. Rather you're getting the contractive form of energy serving my onion layer distortion of I need to impress other separate entities with my Rolex or whatever. And once you realize the absolute, this pipe it just ceases to exist. So you merge with everything in nothing at the same time. And the self purification ends up becoming more and more trusted and less and less monitored. So right now I'm balancing between the two but I'm experiencing a lot of monitoring which has been really important for me. When is it coming from source? When is it coming from conditioning? We talked about that a little bit on the last call. That was a good one. But a lot of people reject that process and usually the reason why is because the onion layer does not want to die. Yeah. The first, I think the last fear that I had was six months ago I think. The fear was to forget my passwords and stuff like that. But I was, then I was watching some videos from Frank Yang and this fear totally solved it. And then, oh it's okay. Now there are things that are subtle that I need to perceive and just to pop the bubble of that perception to make something without bias. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Is your firework coming from the person consciousness bias? Yeah. Yeah, that's a great way to put it. And it's so good this journey because first when you don't know about it you think I need to get better and I need to improve my way to think of thinking how can I get more be a better professional. But as you go within all these things happen naturally. So if you live better you'll be more peaceful usually once you clear the stuff you need to clear. But life responds to you. You could even add the, it's a natural thing as you defocus or empty that you not only get to this being aware I am, I exist but you notch back another into the very source of the I am, I exist being aware. So you get to this very sense of voidness, nothingness allowing the clean pipe-ness to come through into the I am. So you like, you like emerge every billionth of a second from nothingness as an observer of the reality of your own creation at play with itself and for you to experience and watch it and then every billionth of a second just like... just the absolute nothingness comprehending the absolute everythingness. First you need to be a little bit afraid because there's all these sensations and this new kind of perception but once you realize how it's so right to be present to just be. So even if you have so many bad things happening around you you can seek refuge in this being because you'll be peaceful even if it's around you as a hurricane. Some say it's like to be in the eye of a hurricane hurricane I think or a twister maybe. Yeah, same, same. It's peaceful. Hurricane or tornado regardless which really is once you get to that sort of stillness imperturbable peace. It's so funny because you can like all you have to do is click on the mainstream news and you're just sitting there abiding in peace while the mainstream news is like and you're just like oh my gosh there's so little peace it's crazy. I remember when I used to to watch sometimes some news and things happening sometimes I was just laughing about it all the things that get attention people give importance to things that don't really mean don't really why? I remember the phase last year where I was persistent about wanting to change those that were addicted to propaganda and so then you get liberated from the need to change that of yourself that is addicted to propaganda and you liberate yourself from the need to change your own body that's addicted to propaganda and so that's also another step of liberation from the bondage of needing to change your creation and you hold simultaneously having absolutely no desire with also keeping in your North Star position igniting the planetary enlightenment yeah it's fun like you begin to be guided to what you should do without thinking you're empty and you just do things you have more energy naturally like yesterday I was testing to make a live in Instagram and I was just feeling how it would be because it would be in my first life by myself then suddenly I clicked a button expecting the phone and it would do something different and the life just began then I started to speak and many people liked it and also said oh I dreamed about you three days ago you were saying that I needed to you needed to talk to me and post this video and it's helped me a lot so things like this happened a three minute video just what I needed I was so glad you're getting the experience of creating conscious media it's so important and you get the immediate reflection too thank you that's great I remember after I read the book The Power of Now was my introduction to this subject and I was looking for teachers or people who I could follow and a friend had told me about Muji so the first contact was okay yeah seems like a nice guy then a few weeks later that guy I watched some more videos and then I began to watch many many videos just to connect with the energy and the first realization I had was with him I was working in another city so I was watching many videos during the night and suddenly something clicked I began to smile so wide and tears was coming down a lot of tears I couldn't it was so amazing so light after that moment I need to stabilize to be more with that it's so great and then I couldn't debate again perfect that ineffable taste of union is what we seek that we already are but we're not subtle enough to detect it and then after we unite with it because we quieted our mind enough to be able to detect that we are already it then we basically re-baseline ourselves through this perpetual realignment back to that state of perpetual union until it becomes home it's like we need to consciously look at it then it begins and it's so important to consciously keep looking until the first sort of pop happens and then consciously keep looking at what's the source and then pop I love that with time it gets more natural like this weekend I had a mother shift and now thoughts about it and now it's like I can identify with things like lose focus from my presence, my being but when I come back with attention to awareness it's more perceptible it's like it's more firmly based maybe and when I close my eyes or just rest it goes a sense it much more deeper it's like new doors opened like limiting limitations memories beliefs I can now go easier it's easier to to investigate this kind of things yeah it's it was a great shift how it's put in words I like how you said the perceptibility increases that's a really good way to put it is that you sort of end up becoming less and less focused on the object and you become more and more relaxed into the awareness of the beingness itself and then like if you learn how to just sit down on the couch or out in the sunlight and instead of like having your mind run between thoughts if you just like realize like I'm looking around as an observer right now I am being presence awareness right now I exist and like if you look at things like when you look at like a leaf and then the leaf like blows along the concrete on the ground and you're just like why have I never seen a leaf blow on the concrete before and these are like the little things that you actually have never paid attention to because you're not subtle enough because you're too gross you're too much in the physical then you're not in the subtle formless awareness that enables you to see these novel new insights and so then you become even more perceptible to wow I actually make awareness I actually make realities and you become more abiding in this most voidness most emptiness that gives rise to infinite creation for you to experience and witness like one of my first experiences with presence was something like that 2017 I was working at the company and there were many trees around the building so I was walking in a break during a break and I was watching looking at these trees and I could perceive when I was resting my attention within I could see the trees much more greener wider and dense I could perceive exactly like suddenly the mind came back and my vision shrinked and then I started to practice this okay mind and presence they put the color is different once you get to that point of the bifurcations that's so profound where you can actually be able to see the difference between when the mind contracts into a thought like it races off you're experiencing like this much more presence being this awareness openness you're much more expansive you're actually seeing new color in the tree you're seeing little squirrel jump around from branches and then all of a sudden your mind's like don't forget about that phone call that you have at 3pm are you ready for that phone call and it's like and then you just breathe and you let that thought disappear and then you go okay back to this being presence energy expansiveness and you become really good at the deciphering at that moment sometimes was some thought that could come but I was trying also experimenting like subtle touches from the mind like really subtle interjections from the mind and just that little thing could change my perception of what I was seeing mm-hmm just like the little bit of awareness can subtly change the mind as well yeah once you get a view from once you get a view from the mind from the awareness you never come back you get a little glimpse of the awareness and then you relax back into that and then if you get a little glimpse of the mind while you're in awareness you're like oh my gosh that's what it was like and you're like no way I'm not going back to that it's so robotic it's unconscious one of I remember once a friend was murdered by her ex-friend, ex-husband and she was living with my grandma that time and I was the first one to know about it so I went to the place and it was like my presence they turned on for two days in a row I was always present because if not I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to handle all the energy around me so heavy because of the family etc then but there were two moments that I could perceive my my presence being just a little bit out of alignment and I could sense all this pressure inside from outside to me so events like that can help you to keep in mind tension when something so strong happens it can catalyze you to reach a new height new height and that's a key insight is am I a victim to this suffering or am I the creator of my own suffering catalyst or am I the creator of myself such a simple shift in perspective it's simple now downstream but during it just do your best to move your attention into a more expanded perspective rather than the contracted perspective like even yesterday it was so interesting having lost I was like do I live in 2021 why did I lose 10 minutes of this stream it was such a profound bit and then immediately right away I was like I'm not a victim to this I created this scenario for myself so that I could test my own ability to maintain equanimous and peaceful oh you should be angry right now you should be frustrated I'm like nope I know exactly where that goes yeah it can bother you sometimes or maybe many times depending the person or situation but once you get rid of it not get rid but you embrace it and integrate that thing it won't bother you again yes it was there was a little bit something yeah because you might still have a little blind spot and so it might come back to be like hey did you check that little blind spot and then yeah it's always in service so awakening further actually I'd like to ask you about this you come up with people experiencing joy so we have our calling here so Fabio's calling is my calling is people experiencing joy so Fabio where did joy sort of come during the awakening process as something that you adored enough to even have as the North Star calling maybe because the lack of joy in my life was so much time and stressful environments created by my mind because we create things so and I couldn't escape my mind I remember I think with four three years old I was already stuck with something, how could the child handle that later I understood that I had have us us I'm really sensitive so I get thoughts from people around me or group of people family just energetically so these were a great catalyst to propel me to search for peace and joy but these people experiencing joy it came after NLS, No Limits Society call but I could get more because I was just checking and asking myself, okay what do I what is my calling, what do I feel like what would be like if I were to die in a minute, what would be my joy so first was expressing sharing joy and how to be because I already knew that I want to share this presence, this being because just being I could heal people but to help people heal and not just emotionally also physically so then I was narrowing down and I came of this people experiencing joy I think for the moment what resonates the best because just if I not in a very good mood maybe tired, I just think about people experiencing joy and naturally my heart expands and the smile comes I love this one, by holding the very sourceful energy we help people heal, we help them ascend we help them empty, we help them return to source and then to firework from there it's so good until last year I knew that I could help people just being present but I didn't know how much people would get influenced by this peace until I asked a friend what's the difference in your life with Fabio and without Fabio and she said I can explain, I can put the words in too much just because she's a friend and I was sharing this experiences and this exercise that I was doing with me, okay let's try this just simple things and totally transform her life the way she would deal with her family and you perform better in your life in general this is so profoundly utilitarian even you just perform better you perform with more happiness, with more peace with more joy, with more love wisdom because mind can come and I handle that situation and if you just be suddenly you get inspired just go for a walk and meet someone and that person can help you and things happen this way or even through internet you can go online and find people you wouldn't imagine to be friends with when it comes to your calling being people experiencing joy mind being people experiencing truth and many people are people experiencing some sort of profound beautiful already here state that we're just not subtle enough to detect so the question would be how do you feel is an optimal way for people to undergo that very turn inward towards the I am towards the being, towards the awareness because that is towards the joy people experiencing joy joy is a natural byproduct of becoming aware of awareness aware of being aware of I am so how do you in a sense with your clients that you work with with your friends that you help how do you hit the back most commonly to people to just become aware of I am depends the people some who are really um be easy with their minds with their ideas and I would suggest just breathe like just five seconds take a deep breath and exhale just one breath you can stop the the train of thought that was going so fast yes if you do two, three times to really help you and if you get used to it during the day to do it like once every hour two times every hour would be perfect others I can guide them like Moji he just tell people to put their minds aside just for a moment and so I keep questioning and asking them to to put their thoughts their memories, their family just for a moment until we go to this I am, this presence and they can if they go keep moving aside everything that's the way just relax until they find a place they can describe it they can tell the if it's big or not if it has color or not you're in a place that you can use words to to label still the mind I agree with you that's been the most common because you're right it totally depends on the person and where they're at but the most common direct pointing is stop for just two, five seconds take a deep breath and just relax into the fact that you exist and perpetuate that process until you're stop the train of thought enough to where you recognize your presence energy of just being itself and then recognize that you are the source of being itself and then over time you'll affiliate your identity more as the source of being end of creation rather than I'm a contracted person energy in creation separate from all these other contracted person energies in the first I used Muji many times he just from him so I could get more and more of this state being and connect this with this energy there I was using the question who am I so I would keep repeating who am I who am I like 20 30 40 times until I get this everything all depression vanished you know can breathe and it was funny because I was watching all this content in English and when I was trying to use the same question in Portuguese couldn't didn't work really well what how do you say who am I in Portuguese quensoel quen quensoel eu quensoel quen quensoel so what was the difference it's the same meaning but just different language then I started to try I had to repeat the question a few more times maybe almost twice so we get the same effect but after that blockage was overcome then I could didn't matter now I could ask in English or Portuguese it's okay that's a really interesting point too keep going though continue to introduce a new question like what is me he thinks this translates better it's better because it's not a home it's what is what is the absolute yeah what is me is a really good way to put it see if I can get this to show up there it is so yeah so we have quensoel in Spanish we have or quenestoi that's what I was initially thinking we have it's different in Spanish estoy it's like where am I would be something like this well where would be donde donde estoy or donde soy would be where but quien is who who quien or que es yo or que es yeah what is that estoy it's a sense of place soy in a sense of being okay so quien soy perfect so like quien soy who am I or quien yo also like what is me is another interesting one to put it que es yo there's another one or for Russian it's who am I you know and so this is really interesting is that how many different languages can you write out who am I or what is me also or as you know many other self inquiry Ramana Maharshi and whatnot what is I is another one so what is me and what is I are basically yeah I would definitely recommend people in every single language to begin like asking the here I will write them off for people who am I what is I what is me and just put these in your different languages see if I can get a little space between these my gosh these questions alone will take you to your source period there's these questions alone will take you to your source I think it was Nisar yeah Nisar got yeah who he has this question for two years to get to realize himself yeah Siddharth Meshwar told Nisar got the I promise you you are the Nisar just contemplate who am I what is I what is me for two years and you'll pierce this veil and so yeah we can we can definitely bring the time down for enlightenment or awakening just based on this power law of like the best questions to ask oneself so rather than going into the with a question of oh how does the neurobiology here produce sentience which is you know go for it you can take that approach if you want but just go directly via the question itself is who am I what am I what is I you know repeatedly and yeah because you can the form approach is also useful but that's a separate thing that's the synthesis of science and spirituality affinity and infinity but you were saying who is perceiving yeah like the idea is to go how you can question to go deeper right how you can how you can overcome this layers pop the bubbles and every time you have a better perception you are more aware and new questions will come you you start to perceive things that before you couldn't yeah these questions that Fabio just mentioned to who or what is looking like this question will get you there too these questions will get you to becoming aware of awareness aware of being aware of yourself and the source of it absolutely 100% these are the questions I think that from where is the one looking the one that is looking from where I is looking you can describe what you are you can just realize you can just grow your awareness of it you can point it to people so they can look there but they need to see it for themselves I love it you can't describe it if you want to you can call it source I mean we don't really have better words for it but yeah ineffable the absolute whatever you want to call it and then the best you can do is point people toward it which they already are but they just have to turn inward it's like you have to reverse everything reverse creation itself back to witnessing and then reverse witnessing itself and and then you're right it becomes a deepening for overtime that whole reversing process just deepens overtime and then that's quote or quote enlightenment is the process of both expanding yourself to the whole universe being you interacting with itself and the dissolving of yourself into the very nothingness which perceives the very everythingness and it's the source of it you need to remove these layers these veils one every time one I remember the first time I heard about you need to go to look within how can I look within how can I perceive within now I understand okay perceive I just move my attention to to something within not really my within my body but just and with this intention you'll start to to grasp it and okay now I can understand what it is within but you just need to to give it time to get used to these terms to these pointings and it will naturally come to you that's the same for answers of a CC quote that's another good one but you really got to follow this Fabio style approach what he's doing is what the greats have done for millennia and it's what I've learned it's called the direct path or the direct pointing just go directly to the very source of your perception itself and become aware of the fact that you generate and observe the very creation and reality and that you're the entire thing you're not just a person you're the whole thing playing with itself endlessly yeah but don't forget that during this journey you need to the things that are deep inside you need to come up so it can be anger it can be any negative emotion so it can you need to arise so you can perceive it and embrace it integrated with it so the mind will try to to knock it out using this way these breaches these blind spots so don't worry yeah we'll definitely get a lot of these challenges which are our own catalyst yeah but once you overcome it you will get you'll be much lighter sometimes you need to if you can stay with it like one, two days to process some emotion some energy some bubble once you pop it the difference is noticeable it's amazing it's like you can jump twice as high before that because you have these oscillations so when you go high in high vibration all that is at the bottom can't keep up so it needs to go to the surface then you go down there clean integrate and then you start to go up again so this oscillation will happen many times so don't worry usually the first the first ones are the bigger ones more fears things you can perceive easier but then the fears usually they don't stick and then all these emotions and sensations will get more subtle so yep the ascent and descent happening at the same time is a really important part of it as well is that you're going to have these periods of elation and unity and nothingness and then it's going to be followed by like having a torches just suffering and catalyst and that this is going to further integrate and awaken you and this is nice this is nice we got a lot here Fabio we got a lot here we got a lot of good stuff people experiencing joy very defocusing emptying into being aware I am I exist source void clean pipe being your way to get to that joy and peace that's already present in you asking the good questions who am I what is I what is me who is looking what is looking from where is the one looking love these would you there has a saying it's like you're knocking the door open the door open the door I went to go inside but when the door opens you realize that you were already inside exactly Rumi's quote yeah knocking on the door from the inside oh it's Rumi yeah I heard from Rumi it's all the same source talking about itself that's different ways different yeah thanks for coming on the show Fabio yeah thank you very much I really enjoy it good we've been having a great time together in the fam so this was great timing to be able to express our soul attunement together and how it happened on the program and got to the depths the joy and peace is always there yet it remains for you to recognize yeah oh perfect Fabio where is the best place for people to follow you Instagram you said you had some new video content is that a good place yeah let me write here oh being a Valentino I tend to create videos for YouTube also short videos sometimes it's Portuguese but maybe I will start to put forget the word subtitles in English for people to enjoy or even recording some videos in English yeah it's a work in progress I love this this is great oh this white on white oh my gosh it's hard to see that's kind of cool though I'm testing things so here is before I said the post yeah I love it I love it so we'll put this link in the bio for everyone as well so go and give Fabio a nice little follow and check out some of his great content there and we would love to see some English that would be great too if you get the chance because I know Portuguese is very important also so whatever you feel like is most moving you I'm thinking how to maybe create an account in English because I wasn't expecting to talk too much in English but people start to to happen now the ones that are more interested in this subject more and more reaching in English we've prioritized this language we'll see yeah I post something sometimes in English and translating in Portuguese also so people can both people can join yeah it'd be so interesting every time you spoke to be able to get it in Mandarin and Arabic and Spanish and English it'd be so great like you know speak just we can just transmit our ideas yeah I remember what you said once that there was the model of the people who usually go to the retreat and she didn't understand English but she kept watching his videos and she didn't understand words but she understand the message she get the energy yep yep you just need to open it it'll not put a barrier because I don't understand this language if you are open to the energy you can get it yeah I think Rumi said we break all of the layers until we get to the heart yeah yeah and that's why with Ramana Maharshi and what not Darshan the direct enlightenment communication can just be done by the presence no words and that's why that example with Muji as well it's like just the presence itself sometimes you don't even need to get the vocal vibration see yeah there's this the Ramana had a cow who enlightened how did that happen I don't know I just know that it happened I just know that there was an enlightened cow I don't know during this path I can sense people like when they are coming from mind or they are coming from their source their being so it's easier to understand so probably as enlightened he can he could got it because it's just a realization it's not your capabilities it's not about your skills and stuff so you can get enlightened just be try the way you are with your fears with your habits all this stuff but once you realize that many things will get clear automatically and others will won't hold yeah and Ekratoli was saying that his zen masters were cats yeah yeah so beautiful awesome Fabio thank you again thank you very much it was amazing talk it was a really good one so 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