 Okay, thank you to her any public comment hearing none will move along. So next on the agenda is the era errors and emissions listers for discussion. Hello. So every year about this time towards the end of the year introduce yourself. Okay, I'm Clarissa Holmes, one of the assessors. Thank you. Welcome. At the end of the year. We, the state requires that we present to the select board a list of. Errors that occurred in the grand list after the tax bills. So that you can see what kind of impact it might or might not have on the. Budget. So this year. And I've got a sheet here that you copies. Well, that's the original. I don't know if everybody needs copies. You have to sign it's for the select board to sign. Okay. It's a list of, I mean, you can pass it around. Thank you very much. Of the changes we made after we did the tax bills. The 1st 1 is a change that we found. It was an error on our part. We put a water and sewer value on a on an extra lot somebody had and it didn't have any water and sewer. And in the process of looking at the property for another reason we found it. It was only an adjustment of $5,000 assessment. The other 6 are personal property and this happens every year. We send out personal property bills. And then we get calls from the businesses saying we don't have property. We took out our personal property. We don't have it anymore in Berlin. So those have to come off. Okay. Is that like, if you have a storage set, what is what it's a personal property is like a business that an office that has a bunch of copy machines. Oh, okay. You know, it's a personal property. It's equipment, trucks and all that stuff. So this year we had a particularly big one for the Bidini, Benedini. Well, yeah, because they had a midst of changing accountants and and the first filing they did was for 138,500 and we picked that up and put it in and lodge the grand list. And then after back and forth with the new accountant. We came up with it should have been only 16,000, which was more reasonable given last years. It was a big change. Normally we don't have that much if usually very small amounts. So those are the, the changes. Once the select board signs, then Rachel will sign it and then file it with our grand list. And then the changes will go to the state next month for the final grand list. What's the net impact. I actually figured it out. The total assessed the assessment change was a drop of 272,500. That's assessment, and that translates to about $6,480 in tax dollars. And then the first, first fella has a homestead tax rate and I applied that and then the personal property has a non residential rate. So I applied that higher rate to that. So it came out to around 6481. Thank you. So that's the, the actual tax dollars. Excellent. And thank you for presenting everything and also for the details. Yeah, so the state puts out that form and it's a good form that because it makes you write down exactly what happened. Absolutely. Absolutely. That was in the water. Sorry, what was that? Something. It sounds good. You may need to attend. Yes, absolutely under percent. Oh, good luck. Something in the water. Thank you. I mean, we now have a form towards here. Remember, I forget, you're a slight board member too. Do we need a motion to actually you can put if you want this letter is a cover letter for wonderful. I wasn't sure about the weather on Monday and whether you'd have the meeting so I wrote out the letter. Excellent. I don't want to go with it, but it's just the form that has to go to Rachel. It should be signed by a couple of selected members. Yes. So there is no questions there wouldn't. So I'll move to approve the. Do I hear second? I'll second. Thank you, tour. And we've had an emergency in town. So select board member Joe Stov has left the meeting at this time and we still do have a quorum. So, in terms of the motion on the floor, is there any discussion? Hearing none. All eyes. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays? Motion carries. Thank you so much. Welcome. Thank you. And thank you. We appreciate you. Hope you feel better tour. This meets my bike. All the select board members. I don't know how many spaces there are. There's, there's, I think there's only a couple of spaces. It's the second page. Or how many, maybe there's a whole usually. I think you have like two or three signatures. It doesn't have to be the whole. Thank you. Thank you for all of your thoroughness. You're welcome. Evening in a merry. How do you have a brand holiday? I'll leave the top one open for. I can't believe today is 1220 already. I can either. I was just zoom in. And while we're doing that, we'll move on for the very town EMS update and contract option, option extension discussion. Any folks here to discuss that with us this evening? No. Do you have anything? Dave. And so. The interim director of Barry Tony and us was going to show up. If he might still be on the same thing that Joe just had to leave for. It's possible. We'll move past it now and then we can circle back to it if he comes later. Okay. That's wonderful. So we also have at 630 the Berlin volunteer fire department updating budget presentation and I'm going to move over that as well for now, due to the emergency. All hands may not be on deck for that at this time. So the next on the agenda is the FY 25 budget discussion. I'll open that up now for overview and discussion. I don't really get a chance to send that out. I'm still looking at 3%. General pay raise for employee not union employees. And I don't know if Cal use able to get to some of the other numbers. Across the board or not. So don't really have much of an update for that yet. Cali did send a notification to all board members. It was toward the end of the day today. I did look at that. And so she's presented us with some more information to review. Okay. Thank you. So we'll move along from that as well for now. And then next on the agenda is the special taxing district impact fees discussion. So in there. Just kind of some thoughts I had some, some authorities we can do as a town. It's not just to put everything on the town wide grand list. We can put certain expenses under, you know, can set up a special taxing district. You know, it should be a limited area of the town. Then also we can look at impact fees for developers. One of the things that kind of brought this up to me was, was the mall and I was, I've been thinking about this for a long time. Tom and I had a low discussion about it is from my time in the DRP and Carl, I'm sure you remember this as well, that, you know, for each project that comes in, we look at that individual projects impact on traffic, for instance. But we don't do a higher level. Well, if we do this project, this project and this project, well individually, they come in under our peak hour trips or whatever it's called. But, you know, the combination of all three of them could could really create some traffic issues in the future, like if they're all, all have the same rush hour or things like that. So that's what some of the towns in the, in the state have. I know Burlington has a very expansive impact fee. You can figure it out. You can enter in square footage and the zoning right online and it'll tell you how much would go to schools and to the fire department and parks and, and everything like that. I said that when you're doing it to quite as fancy. And I'm not even saying when you do anything tonight, I just want to put it on your radar screens that these are something that we can do in the future. You know, as we start moving ahead. You know, just, I'll say thinking outside the box, I don't like that term but thinking beyond what we just normally think of as far as, you know, how we can find some of the town operations. Absolutely. Good. And Tom. Is it a fee for like is it more than one or is there one impact fee that pays to different funds? How does it, how does it work? Impact fees typically universal for projects. But there's, but I think there's also two topics here that there's the impact fee. And then there's a special taxing district and an example of where the select board may want to consider a special taxing district. There may be a neighborhood that the select board believes that there should be sidewalks or, or bike lanes on it. And so the select board could carve out those properties that are in that district that would then pay for those improvements to their, to their, to their neighborhood. And so, so that, that would be an example of a, of, of, you know, what's it called here? Not an impact fee, but special taxing district. I guess what I'm really asking is, does the, and the specific to the impact fees is, does it have to directly relate to an, to an impact to the community? Like, because 200 said to schools to, or does it like, is it, if it's, if it's a building, does it have to relate to, you know, if it's traffic, we're concerned about, does it have to be reduced for roads? I'm just wondering what the connection there is, or if you know. As we want to, you know, there's been a lot of talk about parks. Yeah. I mean, you know, we've been, you know, very limited financing parks in the past. Yeah. So it might be one area to start looking at. I know, I know Burlington. You know, they, they put some to school, some to the fire department. I'm not saying we do want to do this. I'm not saying we don't want to, but we can, you know, there's options that are available to us. And I don't want, I don't want to get into the habit where we're giving away our money to anybody else, but also don't want to be over burning, you know, with these things. Each, you know, each, you know, we sit here and we think, well, you know, 2,500 square foot home, well, we're going to get this much, you know, impact fee revenue. And that sounds great, you know, until all these projects start drying up and, you know, we were trying to bring the projects into town, but at the same time, don't want to drive away either. Right. Exactly. Yeah, it's a balancing act. I can give you an example from my personal past life. I was managing a facility in Williston and we were needing to expand it and this facility was completely, complete impervious surface. I mean, there it was, it was an industrial area. And they require that, that you do landscaping on every project as lots, a lot of our regulations in Berlin. But their, their DRB saw that, that this facility just did not make sense to have landscaping because trucks are running on, but they still charged us the impact fee for landscaping. I think they kept it in, in their bank for other landscaping projects in the town where it would be would benefit the town. So, so to me, I've always been an advocate of that. No, it sounds like something that we should definitely consider. I really appreciate you bringing that to our attention tour and the explanation and also Tom, and the questions that you post Carla. So, any other discussion about this before we move along hearing none, we'll move on to the mailing of the WCU USD school balance. So I did send this out to folks I expected Rachel be here but it will we are ahead of our agenda. And so this is language that she wanted to select board to consider that's the suggested language from the school district. There was no issues with that. I believe she would be here asking the select board to, to agree to that language. Excellent. Carla, if you feel comfortable making the motions. Sure, I'll move that we approve the language proposed by, by Tom Clark to mail ballots from the university school district. Wait here a second. Not for me. I'm going to go ahead and second the motion. All those in favor. Aye. Those opposed. No. Motion carries. Thank you. Oh, it doesn't actually. Yes. Yes. Yes, very much so. We will postpone this for when we drop and come back or something. Exactly. That's exactly what we need to do. Okay. So we'll move on to the CBRPC transit oriented development MOU. So I think I sent some of this in your packets as well. The, the, the, the. So I think it was last spring. We were approached by Central Monterey Regional Planning Commission. They have entered into a joint venture with the Chittin County Solid Waste Management, not solid management, the Regional Planning Commission. Those two regional planning commissions have been awarded a grant to, to do a study of the rail corridors in the, in those two regional planning commissions. And have they have reached out in Central Monterey has reached out to Berlin because we have a pretty extensive footprint of rail in our community. And they have dollars to look at communities that may benefit from expanded rail or rail services or rail amenities. And as you likely know, several years ago, the Planning Commission got approved Riverton for a designated village center. And so the proposal that Vince Conte put into, to the Central Monterey Regional Planning Commission was that Riverton, among other communities, but we specifically mentioned Riverton should be a focus of this, this planning process. There, there's likelihood of even dollars outside of traditional rail impacts for like sidewalks and in green space. So this memorandum of understanding is outlines the town's obligations and we said what we were going to put staff time into it. There's no dollars from us outside of staff time. And I know the Planning Commission looked at this recently and it would be, it would be my recommendation that the Planning Commission sign that letter or 10. Tor, I think you were, you wanted to give, make recommendation that I signed that on behalf of. Correct. So I'll make the motion to approve it and authorize the zoning administrator to sign documents on behalf of the town of Berlin. Thank you, Tor. And do I hear second. Oh, second. And I'll open it up for discussion. I do have a question. So what I did read the responsibilities, but. But do you think it's considered? I mean, what's the time commitment because you don't have a lot of time we question. I'm trying to remember what we put in there. I think we put in there eight hours a month. And so it was when Vince and I discussed it, it seemed reasonable. Okay, just. And how much staff would you be requiring? Not outside the time. So would be my time. Okay. We're not adding staff. Tor, do you have any additional questions? No, I think just a good idea. I recommend it's approval. Excellent. Very good. Okay. So all those in favor. I. Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Tom. Appreciate the time. We need some more time. That'll be a fun one. Yeah, you like that. If you don't have enough to do. That's what I was thinking about. It's amazing all the two accomplish the town greatly appreciate it. Thank you. And now we'll move on to the town meeting warning, the article discussion and the lack of appropriate USPS services in Berlin. Open that up for discussion now. Um, so if we want to do any charter changes, I think the date for the issue of the warning is December 29. So I'll have to double check that, but I don't have anything ready quite tonight. One thing to look at is moving from a town administrator to the town manager form of government. Uh, we've got the local options tax. Uh, that, that, you know, we're moving ahead on. And then also, uh, I don't think it's be quite as needed, but the removing the requirement for a town vote for the, for the town to sell property. Um, so I think we can. You might need to have a special meeting later on this week or early next week. Um, what are your thoughts on Monday? Uh, it's Christmas. Exactly what I was. Maybe lack of attendance. Christmas. Maybe next Wednesday. Oh, that's funny. That's 6 o'clock. I'm fairly free next week. Um, given that you indicated that the deadline for the charter changes will be December 29. We probably should meet December 26 or 27th at the latest. Sooner, the better. And it was there Wednesday. My no. Are you building next week floor? Do you have that off? Yes, I do have it off. Can't get can't interrupt that. No, definitely that is off for next week. So I'm very flexible. So whatever works for the majority. Do we want to have additional discussion tonight in terms of what tours just described about moving from town administrator to town manager and the local option tax and. My recommendation would be to, you know, to have it be effective July 1st. 2025. There's a lot of movie pieces with this right now. The first is that, you know. We're always at the mercy of the legislature. I don't know if they could actually get to it. You know, this, this timeframe or not, take some, you know, take some pressure off of them. Also, you know, it's been spinning on this level of absence. It's not really fair to him to say, oh, by the way, did your way through job while you were gone. You can come back to your job, but you got you can't. So, you know, give him a time to get everything in place. I do have start working on some position descriptions and stuff, you know, we can, we can send out. I think, you know, that'd be important to get to sell to the voters. You know, when we take it to them. Also, I think I did include a little mainly on the difference between uptown administrator. You know, as far as cost changes, I don't really anticipate too much. You know, we are one of the few remaining town administrator towns in the state. And our time administrator salary is at the higher end of those towns. And, you know, at the current rate, you know, it'd be me on the low side of median for a town manager. So I don't anticipate that being a huge budget impact that that goes through. And that's a good point. I'm glad that you made that tour in terms of explaining that to everyone as well. It's going to be a little jovial and say, if we went this route, maybe that would incentivize and we could have Vince come back sooner. But I, I think, you know, just like you said, there's many towns that are already town managers, and we are one of very few that are still town administrator run. Yeah, we are moving very fast in Berlin and forward, et cetera. And, you know, we could really use the additional expertise as well. So I like the description that you gave and thank you. Madam chair, I would just a word of caution is that as with town administrators, there are various levels of town managers. Berlin has a lot of amenities that maybe some towns don't have this the police force we have with water and sewer. I would not get fixated as a component of this on salary. In my mind's eye, the right person will bring many, many times the grand list value to this community than what their salary. And I would just point to the, the St. Albans, what they have done in the last 10 years. And now that individual is working for Waterbury. I would encourage the select board to go, you know, talk to these successful town managers and get a sense on what the expectations should be that they have really borne fruit for their communities. That's excellent. Very good point. And I concur with that process. I think that would be wise. Tor, you mentioned a date of 7125. That was just for the town manager piece. The other, the, the, the local options tax and selling properties that that wasn't effective for those ones. Correct. But the problem is that, you know, they should probably say, well, we got 25 to do this one. We'll just do them all at the same time. That's, that's a, I don't know what I'm trying to think that, you know, a problem that may come up. But I don't know. I'm just going out. I'm not saying I'm not making no donation on this. I'm just throwing that out. Excellent. And also, as part of this that we're discussing right now, there also was on the agenda, the lack of appropriate USPS services in Berlin. Did you want to touch on that tour? So, yeah, I, Berlin's really getting shafted. And I think I can say this, since it's being recorded by the popular post office and the issues they've had, you know, government agencies are supposed to have continuity of operations and continuity of government plans in place and clear that fell both on part of the USPS and the General Services Administration, GSA, which is the actual landlord of that building. So, you know, you know, I, I know there's been a longstanding committee dealing with the lack of a post office here in Berlin and, you know, change in our legislators with Senator Welch and Congressman Bellant. So, I really wanted to get on there, read our screen, that not only the existing problems through there, they're much worse now that, you know, that we have to go all the way to bury and hope that there's somebody there from up here at that time and not wasting trips and gas and emissions at that person's sites early, but the very people are still there, but the very people can't touch them up here, people's mail and things like that. Oh really? I didn't know that. I have reached out to our delegation and was hoping to maybe get a meeting with them set up, but at a minimum would like to have language and it'll be a floor meeting vote, something to the fact that, you know, we're getting, you know, by the post office and call upon, you know, the congressional delegation to do something about it. Thank you, Tour. I wasn't knowledgeable about the extent of that, so I appreciate the overview and I appreciate you reaching out to the delegation and what you can set up and what you can find out further. Sure. Any further discussion surrounding this? Hearing none, we'll move on. The next item on the agenda is the animal control ordinance update. We'll have to push that back for another meeting. Okay. We'll go ahead and do that. I don't know. I don't think I was even seen a draft of that. Is that correct? I don't believe she has. I haven't. I think we'll move back to another meeting. And then the next item on the agenda that we've touched on a little bit will be the charter change discussion and local options tax town manager and other provisions. So we've talked about some of that. Is there anything else anyone wants to discuss surrounding that at this time? I don't have anything. Nope. Just that we need to get a meeting together. To go over all of that due to the deadline coming fast upon us. And now I'll move on to the FEMA buyouts, the execution of the MOU, the maintenance agreement and the FEMA model statement of assurances for property acquisition projects. So we have two projects, the MSRV and affairs on junction road. And we've been accepted by FEMA to the project. So it's just the next step of paperwork from FEMA and from our emergency management to consider. So I do recommend the approval of these documents does not come at the time and money. Anything like that's just that we're still going to proceed ahead with the projects. And I will make that, I'll make that motion. Oh, second, so the motions on the table right now are to proceed ahead with the FEMA buyout in all of the documentation surrounding. Is there any discussion at this time? I just want to ask. I did look at that quickly. But so basically they pay they buy out the property and then it's on it that it's needed to the town. That's correct. And then we can put on there, basically no buildings. Yeah. Okay. I think that's great. There should be more properties that that happens. So, or does the town participates in that? Is it? Is there 25% participation? That is actually going to be either covered through the home, existing homeowner or the state. Okay. Okay. Good to know. Okay. If there's no other questions, we'll move on with a vote. All those in favor? I. Motion carries. And the next is the approval of the licenses permits vouchers and applications and the payroll warrant. Oh, thank you. Oh, I read it. Thank you. Payable warrant. Do I move to approve? Move to approve. Payable warrant 24G14 with check number 23584 to 23622 and the amount of $85,725.77. And payroll warrant 24-14 for payroll from December 3rd, December 3, 2020. 23 to December 16, 2023, paid on December 2020, 2023 and the amount of $60,710.94. And check number 23583 to the town of Underhill for fittings. Do I hear a second? Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion carries. And next on the agenda is the approval of the minutes for December 4th of this year. I don't think those are all. Okay. Okay. So we'll move over that because we do not have those to review. We have not reviewed them at this time. And unless anyone is on with us through the computer for the other two topics that we moved over, I suggest that we move them to the next regularly scheduled select board meeting. The, well, actually, the Berrytown EMS, our contract with them expires in June. We have two years of extension options built into the contract. So, you know, I did invite the interim director to come in just to give us an update. I would like to ask him, you know, to come back and talk to us about it in the future. But I think as far as the actual contract options themselves, I think we are, we can go ahead and vote on those and I make the motion to do that. Excellent. Thank you, Tour. So we have Tour's motion on the floor to go forward with the contract option extension. And do I hear a second? I'll second. I do have a question. Now we'll open it up for discussion. I saw two different days from the extension. The option had to be executed. One said 12, 23, 20, 23. And one said 12, 20. I mean, 12, 31, 20, 23, 12, 31, 20, 24. Is it the 20? Is it this year or next year? But the option has to be. Well, it is this year for the 2024 extension, June, you know, that July 1st. We may have to go back and redo this in December of 24 again. Okay. I was just, because I did see, it was two different dates and I wasn't sure when I had to be down, but it doesn't matter, I guess. Okay. So the motion is for a one year extension, not two year extension? Sure, we'll go with that. One year? Okay. Yeah. All those in favor of the one year extension? Aye. Aye. I'm just questioning whether is that possible? No. Okay. All right. Okay. Motion carries. All in favor. Okay. Now we'll move on to the board roundtable. Do you have anything, Karla, for this evening? Nope. And I don't have anything either tour. Um, I don't think I do either. Okay. Thank you very much. And now we're going to discuss the meeting schedule during the holidays. I know we don't have all board members with us. Do we want to postpone this till we have an opportunity to reach out to others? Or shall we discuss it in terms of availability? I think, um, you know, it's a special meeting next week. And then our next regular schedule meeting is on January 1st, which is also a holiday. So probably look at moving that meeting to that Tuesday or Wednesday as well. That would be fine with me. That's it. That makes sense. And then we can ask the others and then plan accordingly. Sounds wonderful. Are we planning for an executive session this evening? Uh, I think we should. Okay. For the, uh, real estate? Real estate. Is that A2? Yes. Yes. I don't know if you get one. Yes, it is A2. Yes. So I do move enter into an executive session regarding real estate, one VSA 313A2 and a vice-president administrator to join us. I'll second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion carries and we're entering into an executive session. Slightly wasteful, um, dollar wise, because not everybody will end up voting. I couldn't mind it when I went to vote. Yeah, yeah. It does. I mean, to me, it seems like a big portion of our taxes is education. And for people who may not realize it's time to vote for that to show up in their mailbox is pretty convenient. We have in the past, while the school would mail ballots and the town doesn't, we've sent out notifications to voters so they can at least understand why they're getting one and not the rest and know that the others exist. Yeah. So hopefully that would eliminate any confusion for voters. Does, and do they want to do it because they do see more results or? I think they just want to get it out to as many people as possible. If we chose not to mail it, we might get 300, 400 voters on a good town meeting. Which is a small percentage of the taxpayers. So I think their hope is just to get it out to as many people. Is your proposal that we do mail it? I'm in favor of letting the school go ahead and mail the school ballots and we will handle mailing town ballots by request. As you know, during town meeting, it's going to also be the presidential primary and voters have to specifically request which party they would like to vote for. Anyways, so we'll already have that mailing. But it would be nice to eliminate one other ballot that we have to worry about mailing. So do we mail them or do they mail them? The school will do it automatically. Okay. Yeah. They do it right from the printer. They'll get a copy of our checklist and send them out. Yeah. Tor, you voted in a negative on this earlier. I would say I'd get on my soapbox about this, but I don't think I can do that right now. But I do have some security concerns about this process. I don't know if you ever come out to fruition, but I think there are still some vulnerable buildings there that exist in this process. And I'm not in favor of the wholesale mailing of ballots. I know people can be skeptical about how the whole voting process works. While it may not be a perfect system, I do think with the electronic system we have through the state, it would be pretty, in my opinion, pretty hard. The problem with these, especially the school ballots, you don't get an electronic submission. So after the polls closed and votes are commingled up at the union. That's correct. Yeah. The union offices. My concern is that somebody gets a mail to them, and then they come in and vote, and they get their town ballots, and they come in to cast their town ballots. And they say, well, I couldn't find my school ballot. That wasn't me last year until I actually did find it. But I just had to sign that little affidavit thing, and you could be given a whole other ballot that I could then vote on, and both could be put together into the box. And there would be no electronic check right there that you're issuing two ballots. That's my concern with it. Yeah. Yeah. So at the end of the voting process, every single ballot is associated with a voter. And so... Except now that you've got 501 ballots for 500 votes cast, you don't know which ballot needs to be thrown out. So the joy is we have the checklist in front of us that is up to date as of the morning that we vote. And we would know if we got a ballot to give to the school before voting started. And if we didn't, it could be they recycled it, they lost it. But we're only going to give them one more to vote on, one more chance. They wouldn't have had that opportunity if we received a ballot returned in the mail from them. They would be marked in our system and on the checklist that's already having voted. So they couldn't come in and say, I didn't vote. I didn't get that ballot because we already know we did, we have it. They're bringing in their ballots the day of the voting. The day of the vote. Or before, or before, because they do have the option to mail into us ahead of time. My scenario, and I am an evil genius, so don't bust my bubble here, is that, yeah, they bring in their prefilled out town ballots and have the school ballot in with their packet. So you can't see it, but it's claimed that they have not, you know, they couldn't find it and need another one. Now the scale, you know, I mean, we're talking about ones or twosies here, you know, the overall scheme of things. You know, but my mom always told me to watch your pennies, the dollars to take care of myself. So bless your mom. So is there a check for that, Rachel? There, I mean, if we get ballots ahead of time, we're going to know if you're returning a town ballot, you're returning your school ballot, you're returning. They have no scenario. As of that morning, yes, we will know. We will know everything that comes in. No, but if I come in here. Give them morning all. Take my ballot on voter day. And then I go, is there an after check there? If you come in and the morning of and you bring your sealed envelope, sealed envelopes, you're going to check on an education, right? But we're going to check what's in your envelope. Oh, you are returned. Oh, you are going to look inside the envelope, right? We have to be there. Yes. Oh, okay. Yes. Okay. So towards that, does that. But just not leaving my concern. I know for some people, the whole process is just very scary. I would check a lot of checks and balances to make it harder. And I can't speak for, you know, the country as a whole or whatnot. But I do know for our time for our state, how the process works. I would be more concerned with somebody taking a ballot that was mailed to them that wasn't theirs. And I'm sending. Right, right. I would think that's more likely because you wouldn't know. How would I know? You don't know. I'm sure that's across the thing is, you know, right. So that's my thought. Could be yours too. That's great. Yeah, I wish you hadn't understand on that one. We appreciate you coming in to be able to explain it further. I think the difficult part for us is we did discuss it to an extent. But the fact that they need a decision by tomorrow. So Joe was here with us, but he had to leave due to an emergency here in town. And so that doesn't leave enough sweatboard members to make a decision. Right. That's not it. That is what it is. I mean, that was their hope. But if you haven't come to a decision or you guys want more time to mull it over. I mean, we're going to be meeting next week at that house. Okay. Yeah. If it's Joe or Brad, we're here for that meeting. You know, that would get us over that quorum number. Right. Quorum number was the issue. I would. I would try to have you throw your mercy on the court here. Laura, just remind you that the town of Berlin received a very generous gift from that school board of 3.8 acres, which is valued of potentially millions of dollars and lots of revenue for the town. And I wouldn't encourage you to think about that relationship we have. And I understand your principles here, but this is, you can maybe have this vote next year, but I would encourage you to vote in the affirmative on this one. Not diamond sword. For your consideration. As a point of order, I'll open it back up for a vote. In terms of how many are in favor of moving forward and any opposed? All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Those opposed? Aye. Okay. So based on that, we cannot make a decision this evening. Okay. And the best that we could do is have it come forward and just have a later notification. Perfect. As to whether it will be yes or no. That sounds great. And would it be helpful if somebody from the school board was also present for questions? No. No, I don't think so. I think you explained it really well. You did. You explained it very, very well. And I see tours, concerns. And yeah, I know everyone's and we really appreciate it. Okay. Great. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. I appreciate it very much. Take care. Is there a drop-drop date? All I heard of was tomorrow. But I'll have to reach out in the morning and just see how lenient they are with that date. Because if it is tomorrow, then the answer would just be no. Do all the other towns have done? No. I don't know what they've come to decisions for. The story. I mean, obviously. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Thank you so much. I didn't realize a little gift bag was for the mother. I thought it was for the dog. I thought there was dog treats at daycare. I thought it was dog treats. I'm like, so it's a t-shirt and cookies. Well, I didn't get to beat it though. Thank you, Rachel. Okay. I entertain a motion to adjourn unless there's any other topics that are needing to be addressed. So we have a motion on the floor and a second from Tor Nelson. And so we will move to adjourn tonight. Meeting. Thank you all. Thank you. Hope you get out of there, Tor. Yeah, Tor. Get back to work. Welcome back. I'm learning today what that felt through, so who knows? Oh, well, we look forward to seeing you in person. Absolutely. And we're thinking of you. And I'm glad you were here tonight, Tor. All right, thanks.