 sound when you have 30 seconds remaining. Speakers registered on consent items will be taken following the announcement of any items being pulled or continued. Speakers will be given three minutes to speak on all items that they registered for. On the screen you will see the order for the agenda for tonight. You will note, please note that item 222557, the Community Police Policy Advisory Board, will be taken up last, including the speakers with that item. Thank you. Good evening. Welcome to your Forest City Council meeting. I'll call us to order. Tonight's invocation will be by Pastor Randy Hardiste from Trinity Cumberland Presbyterian Church. Please stand for the invocation and remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. I don't get buzzed if I go too long. Lord God, I'm going to pray to you different tonight. I'm going to pray with my eyes wide open. If my brothers and sisters want to join me at that, do that well. I hold my hands in high honor and praise to a holy God that I believe in with my whole heart. Some here, Lord, may not receive you the way I do. If you're okay with that, so am I. Father, there are brothers and sisters in here that I have yet to meet, but as I look at them, I see the glory of your creation, even amongst the City Council and all the staff service. I see so much glory in this room, Lord God, that I know, I know, Father, that you can bring our hearts and our minds and our mouths to honor you in this meeting in a way that Fort Worth's never seen before. I see people here I know that I love, but what I love is to see the people that I have yet to know, and the things that I can learn from them, God, how you've blessed me and blessed all of us, blessed these leaders to serve all these people. And Lord, I'm trusting that all the contention that came in this room, all the adversity, all the things that don't honor you, that they're locked away right now, that every one of us that agree can speak kindly to those that disagree and those that disagree can speak kindly to those they disagree with. I'm asking this so that when people look at this on a video or whatever they have in the world of electronics, 10 years from now, they will say people in Fort Worth don't always agree, but they are a loving and kind and agreeable people. That's to your honor, God. I love you, God, and I love these people here, and I want for them to feel the joy I feel inside knowing you and knowing that you've already worked out everything that's going to take place tonight. According to your word, there's no Greek, no Jew, no slave, no free, no male, no female, no black, white, Hispanic, Iranian, Saudi Arabian, none of that exists. We are one in your creation through Jesus Christ. To praise and honor you, Lord God. Thank you. Thank you for the blessing and favor you grant here tonight. The first item will be a special presentation, the recognition of the Steer Fort Worth. So this is my great honor to get to recognize our Steer Fort Worth key holders graduates. I will join you downstairs. I just think it's a little easier for the audience to hear what we have to say about this awesome class of our key holders. Steer Fort Worth is a nonpartisan nonprofit organization that grows emerging leaders to be civically engaged in Fort Worth, Texas. Mayor Betsy Price first established Steer Fort Worth in 2011 in response to the low voter turnout rates within the city from citizens in the young professional age range, and we became a nonprofit entity in 2016. Our primary goal is to foster civic engagement among emerging leaders in Fort Worth and the broader Tarrant County. We are here to be a resource and point of connection to help you understand the best ways to become involved in the city, and you might make some great friends along the way, too. This graduation is for the Key Holders Program. Key Holders is a fast-track civic engagement program, and participants will attend six focused evening sessions throughout the summer and early fall. These sessions covered key aspects of Fort Worth, including our history, government, economic development, and civic engagement. In each session, these participants had the opportunity to learn and network with local leaders on these core topics. The program culminates with an event allowing key holders, participants to network and potentially match up with local community organizations that can benefit from young professionals' involvement. Past positions have included board of directors, shadow seats, marketing, community outreach, and the focus of key holders is to move participants quickly towards engaging in the city and its organizational infrastructure. When I look at this awesome class of key holders, I think we are in great hands in the city of Fort Worth with young professionals ready to take on any task and lead this city into the future. And we thought it was very important tonight that we had the opportunity to ask you all to be here and recognize your great service to our community. So please join me in a round of applause, and I'll join you at the bottom. Mayor and Council, regarding items withdrawn from the consent agenda, there are currently none. But I will note that on consent, MNC 22008080, approval is of the amended MNC, which was posted in backup with a minor correction to the numbering of the items listed under the recommendations. The next is items to be continued or withdrawn? We have one item to be continued, and that is MNC 22008067, and that will be continued to November 29th. The next is the consent agenda speakers, which I believe, Mayor, we have one. Our first and only speaker on consent agenda is Bob Willoughby. Will you go ahead and start the video? Well, thank you for your autographs. Appreciate it. The city website could be more people-friendly. What we see when clicking the little blue link is a blank page with a little blue download link. The page has lots of room for information so that we do not have to download every time for information like a phone contact to ask questions that are not provided. 22-2302 notice of claims for alleged damages or injuries. Questions like what were the results of some of these claims? As it stands now there is no vital information on the 22-2302 notice of claims for alleged damages or injuries, and no phone number or name to ask. All of the items on the agenda have a blank page behind them that could share more information without having to always download. Yeah, that's my question. I don't understand why we can't put more stuff and we don't have to download it. Just one click over. And we could put stuff on there like remove the public presentation from city council. That could be put on there. That would have been better. We could have seen that, but they don't put anything on there. So we'd like to use that, get more information. So I don't understand that. And also it would be nice when you went over there that you could click back and be where you're at. Instead you go back to the top of the agenda and you got to scroll down again. So, you know, that could be more friendly. You know, there's a big blank page there, but nothing on it. I don't know why you could put more on there, but that's my thing. And I know I've asked about a lot of things down here and none of them ever get done except for one they did that I asked about. And that was to release our agenda on Thursday nights instead of Friday nights. And they finally did that. And to a lot of me, they must have got something out of it or they'd never done it. I don't know what, but they got something. But I asked for that and I'll take credit for having us. Our agenda comes out on Thursday night. I'll take credit for that. Okay. I know I've never been asked about that. And I do that. Now here's something else I'm asking. Let's see if they'll do it. Let's see if they'll start putting stuff on that blank page. Like take away your right to speak at city council. You know, that's a good page to put it on. We can see it real clearly. Or let's get $500,000 outside lawyers to keep cheap it's drill from coming back all that kind of stuff would be easily put on that big old page, but instead you've got to go down low. So that's a lot of work. Anyway, that's my complaint on that. I've asked before about this. I'm asking again. Let's improve the website and make it more people friendly. Council, that's a lot of our speakers on the consent agenda. I'll show in a second. Any other discussion? Please vote. Next item is upcoming and recent events, recognition of citizens and approval of ceremonial travel if needed. Working. Sorry. First presentation is Council Member Michael Crane. Yeah. Just want to say we'll make in the interest of time tonight. I just want to recognize thanks to Eds Berlin and the skipper at the base for nominating me to go out to the USS Ford as part of the dignitary exchange. So I got to fly on to the USS Ford, did a great visit. You can flip to the next screen because really this is the important part. Got to see lots of friends up there. Nettles that I met. She was running around and is a great doctor on the ship as well as the guy on the far right was born at Carswell back at some point. And it was just a great visit all the way around. You can flip to the next slide. I think, yeah, more folks. The guy in the middle lived in Ridgely Hills when he was stationed here and I happened to have my Ridgely Hills hat. So it was kind of cool to give that to him and see that and did a shout out with my TC Horned Frogs. And yeah, last slide. Oh, no, sorry. One more after this. This over bridge, I just want to give a shout out to Jack Bartlett as part of his Eagle Scout project was out there repainting it and getting it ready for all things ahead. So that's a big part of his his his Boy Scout troop that's out there helping out Eagle Scout. And then the last slide I got to ride on the new Street Sweeper. So I was out in Meadows West, Bella Park North, and they let me drive it sort of. But it was a fun day to be out there in the neighborhood. Thank y'all. Thanks, Michael. Now the council member Firestone. Yes, thank you, Mayor. Last real quickly last week, I was invited to attend the annual meeting of the Neighborhood Association on South Lake Worth. And we had a great showing out there to discuss a lot of a lot of different things. But some of their major concerns, which included short term rentals, alligators out there and an issue we have from Silver Creek materials with some odors coming from there that are pretty difficult to live with. So we're looking into that. But I want to thank Shannon Elder from Code Compliance, who also attended the meeting to help address concerns and certainly answer questions on why the city is not enforcing the current zoning ordinance regulating short term rentals on Lake Worth. But I know we're going to be taking up that discussion here next couple of weeks. Thanks very much. Thanks, Leonard. Our next is council member Chris Nettles. Testing. All right. I want to take the opportunity to thank, I see a lot of our community, our black community here tonight. I want to thank you for being here in the City Council meeting. And so I want to go on to my presentation. This first slide is the ODY versus Polly High School. Tech2Protect was here checking car airbags. And so we had opportunity to speak to the ODY and Polly High School. There's Toby Jackson, the president of the school board. Next slide, please. I had opportunity to do the coin tiles at Texas Wesleyan. Them guys are really playing some real good football here in the city of Fort Worth in district number eight. Also was there checking the airbags and got able to speak to all of the residents there. Next slide. Participated in the Polly Homecoming Parade. And a lot of these slides are a couple of weeks out because we didn't have them two weeks ago. But we had a very awesome fun time, sun and the fun in the sun. It was great talking to our Polly residents. Next slide. The Airman VA opening, home opening, it was a great event. The mayor and other, most of the City Council was there celebrating a gentleman that has been great for our nation. And I had an opportunity to speak on the opening of that facility off of Campus Drive. It was a great event. Next slide, please. This slide is the state of district eight address. We do this every year. And we bring in our community to talk about real issues and challenges that are faced with not only district eight, but the city of Fort Worth. And we bring out our city staff. So city staff, I want to thank you for your hard work. And I think sometimes it goes without saying that our city staff really is the bucks and nokes of this city. They do a lot of work. So I really want to thank all you guys for coming out and supporting District 8 on the southeast side. Next slide. This, you see the crowd. A lot of people is there. A lot of people engage in District 8. The next slide. Okay. This is stop six visit with HUD and Secretary Fudge came to visit in Gina's district. I got an opportunity to go out there and visit with her. It was a great experience. Mayor Pro Tem Gina Bibbins is doing a phenomenal job in District 5. Thank you for your work. Next slide. This is palladium groundbreaking. We broke ground on a $56 million project in District 8. Economic development is coming to the southeast side under our leadership. And we're grateful for working with all the partners there that is Pastor Spears is going to go right across the street from his church. Ramon participated in the process. We believe in working together across the aisle and working with everyone. Next slide, please. That's Ramon Romero at the groundbreaking. Next slide. We had the opportunity to do the tour bus. And we talked about how we can get economic development up and down land council and Rosedale and Texas Wesleyan. We stopped by the library. We were able to stop at both our libraries. I'm telling you it's a lot of great things happening in District 8. Thank you. A lot of these things took place. I'm grateful to support the effort as we move forward. Next slide. I think I missed a picture. But okay, if you go ahead and play that video for me, please. Outreach program will help with minority hiring and seize the need for a citizen's review board that has been in the work since the controversial arrest of Jackie Craig in 2016. The truth of the matter is it's coming whether we want to see it or not. My plan is to be a part of the process. Thank you. That's all I have. I'll be quick because I know we've got a long one tonight. Trinity Metro bus stop cleanup. It was really great to spend time with our new executive director from Trinity Metro and beautify some areas of the city. I want Michael Crane to know that we did cross the other side of university. So District 3 benefited from that cleanup as well. Next slide. We dedicated a new piece of public art that we mentioned here a couple of weeks ago. It is the, oh I forgot the name, a fly catcher. It's a native to the area and it's a really cool piece of artwork that if you drive down Forest Park you can enjoy. Next slide. We open a new library. So thank you, Mania Shor and your staff for all of the work that we did for the Fort Worth History Center as part of our consolidation of different assets of the Fort Worth Library. We moved the library that was at this location into the Grand Plaza as a way to really make sure that we're meeting the community where they are and we were able to reuse this space as the Fort Worth History Center. And so if you cannot get a hold of Richard Zavala for a complete history breakdown of the city you can just go here and they'll provide one for you. Next slide. Next up was the Fort Worth PD Code Blue Trunk Retreat that my office participated in. And I really have this slide here because we're able to do the job that we do here on Council all of us because we have amazing staff that is there to support us. And I really want to thank Anthony Rojas, my district director who held down the fort for me when I couldn't attend this event because I had a significant loss in my family. So thank you, Anthony. You deserve credit for that event and I'm sure you didn't eat any of the candy yourself. So all right, thank you. I think that's the last of our Council presentations. Mayor? Yes. And Council, there are no other non-consent speakers other than the item 22257. So we'll move on to the resolutions. So the first item for action is 22-2555. If I'm correct, I don't have any speakers on the item correct, Jeanette? Correct. Okay, perfect. So maybe I'll turn to Councilmember Firestone on this one. This is in his district. I know that Orlando Carvalho is here, our interim CEO of the Fort Museum of Science and History. Orlando, thank you for your leadership to get us to this place. I know we're quite excited to help move your vision forward. Leonard? Thank you. Yes, thank you, Mary. It is a great vision. We're very excited and we're very excited about all the work that you've put into getting this done. So it's with great enthusiasm that I make a motion to approve this. Second. Any other discussion, Council? Please vote. Next item is 22-2556 and there are no speakers. And I'm going to turn to Councilmember Elizabeth Beck on this important ordinance. Do we don't have any speakers? There are comment cards. Stay in my lane. Chief Aldridge, do you want to come down and speak to this for just a moment before we take this vote? I think it's important for the community to understand why we're doing this and why y'all need it down in that area. Absolutely. Assistant Chief Aldridge for Police Department. Thanks for having me today. I'll be very brief. Anybody that's visited the West Seventh Area on Fridays and Saturday nights, you have anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 people in that area. One of the issues that we've been seeing is underage people between 18 and 21, kind of hanging out on corners, drinking alcohol in open beverage containers. It's a challenge to address those items because the ages are so close to 21. I appreciate the support of the Council to get this ordinance passed because that does give us another tool to address this issue. And one of the other indicators is these individuals seem to cause quite a bit of problems whenever they kind of congregate, they drink whenever you mix alcohol with a large group of people. It causes us a lot of problems. Thank you. I appreciate that. I think this is something that I've been really excited about for months and I'm glad to finally have it before Council and be able to take this vote. And it's one of those rare times when everybody kind of seems to be on board with with a position. We won't get that much else tonight but we'll get it here hopefully. And so the business owners down there are really excited about it. The residents down there are really excited about it. Police is really excited about it and I am personally very excited about this because I think it is just one step in what will be a long process to really change the face and the shape of West Seventh to support that entertainment district but to make sure that it is a safe environment for all of our residents to enjoy. So with that I enthusiastically move to approve. Got a motion and a second from Councilor Crane. In their discussion Council, please vote. Motion carries. Next item is MMC 22-0917 with a report of city staff by Robert Stearns. Thank you Mayor and Council. Robert Stearns, Economic Development. The purpose of this hearing is to receive public comment regarding the amendment of the project and financing plans for tax increment re-investment zone number four commonly referred to as a Southside TIF and a 10-year extension of its term. The changes to the plan are attached to this MMC. On October 19, 2022, the TIF's board of directors voted to amend the project and financing plans to allow the TIF district to continue and expand revitalization efforts in the near Southside by extending the term for an additional 10 years. In accordance with state law, notice of this hearing was published in the four-star telegram at least seven days prior to the date of this hearing. If I learned any public comments this evening, staff recommends closing the public hearing and improving the MMC. Thank you Robert. Any questions for Mr. Stearns? Entertain a motion to close the public hearing and move on the MMC. We do have two speakers and our first is Michael Sanborn followed by Chuck Malini. Thank you mayor, council members. Just want to speak out in strong support of this extension of the TIF. Again my name is Mike Sanborn. I'm the president of Bay of Scott and White All Saints Medical Center here in Fort Worth and reside in the district of Michael Crane and also work with Elizabeth Beck. So very happy to be partnered with them but I think really what makes near Southside's progress as it relates to the TIF pretty remarkable is the unique and mutually supportive economic ecosystem that exists within the near Southside. We've got major employment anchors such as the hospitals but also a lot of other businesses, restaurants, other elements that coexist with all of those business partners and I think you know a lot of the people that decide to locate or create businesses in the near Southside do that simply because of the investment decisions that are made as part of the near Southside and the decisions that are made on the TIF to make it a better place to invest those funds and employ people in the area. There's also a lot of residential development that has really mushroomed over the years and so we're a thriving medical innovation district. We are now a state designated cultural district and we all on the board recognize that that work is not done so you have a dedicated team working with you and on behalf of the near Southside Chuck and I both serve as officers for the near Southside and you also have a very dedicated staff that supports that work so on behalf of the membership of all of the near Southside members I'd like to really greatly appreciate your partnership and strongly support the approval of this extension so thank you. Thank you Michael. Our next speaker is Chuck Bollingy. Chuck I may have butchered your last name I apologize. Richard is a strong word but I appreciate that. Okay. Thank you mayor. Again my name is Chuck Bolligny. I actually live in Mr. Firestone's district. I spend quite a bit of time with Councilman Beck on the not only the near Southside committee but also some other activities and events that we produce in the near Southside. I think my dear colleague Mr. Sandboard spoke about a lot of the salient points about the need for us to continue the TIF. Mike has a very important job in a very important role and he's one of those fancy positions that collects a nice salary and benefits. I am on the other end of the spectrum of the near Southside. I am a starving artist and entrepreneur looking for opportunities to build create to develop and on behalf of all of those people in the near Southside I wanted to speak specifically to what the TIF has done what I've seen it done these specific improvements to not only street scape street repairs corridor creation but ultimately these urban districts that now we all love to live and play and call home which I think in a lot of ways are are some of the most vibrant important and popular districts in the great city of Fort Worth and to add to to what Mike had already said as well I would like to sincerely thank Councilwoman Beck, Robert Stearns and the Economic Development Department and the City Manager's Office for their creative collaboration in putting together this exciting proposal. Thank you. Thank you Chuck. Councilwoman Beck that's the last of our speakers on the item if you'd like to be the one to make a motion. Thank you I appreciate that. Chuck I think that is the most politically delicate way to say I drink in your bar on occasion so thank you for that and I take issue with the starving artist because I know what my tabs look like so but I really want to take a moment before we make this motion there are three people in the audience tonight that I would like to stand up and that is Mike Brennan, Megan Henderson and Natalie Chapa. All right so this is your staff from near Southside Inc and they are some of the hardest working people in this city you don't have to stand up the whole time if you don't want to and but you can if you'd like to. They are some of the hardest working folks in the city of Fort Worth and I don't have to tell you I can show you if you drive the streets of the near Southside if you've ever been to Arts Goggle or Friday on the green open streets you have seen the hard work that these folks have done in our community. I think that and I've said once and I'm going to say it again tonight that when we get something right here in the city we've got to make sure that we keep it going and we absolutely got it right with this TIF. We absolutely got it right with the people that you know were chosen to lead this organization. I hope you will be here with us for another 10 years all three of you so it's not a condition on this vote but I do know where you office so I'd appreciate it if you stuck around. I'm really excited about this. I think this is a great step to make sure that we complete the work that we've done. I appreciate you Mike because when you came to me and we talked about the extension of this and I think it goes to show what a good steward you are of the city's tax dollars you didn't ask for all and to be quite frank I probably I would have thought for all if that's what you told me you needed but you didn't you were very deliberate and you went through and you really determined the dollar amount that you felt was needed to get us across the finish line in near Southside and so you came to us with a very reasonable ask and so for that I personally thank you and not going to speak for David Cook but I bet he thinks you as well and so with that I enthusiastically move to approve or I'm sorry to close the public hearing and improve MNC 22-0917. Got a motion council? I will second that motion. It's great to have you guys also supporting District 8 and the work that's coming to Rosell and Evans so I appreciate working with you guys and working with my friend here on council that has been really helpful so I second that motion and excited to vote tonight. Got a motion and a second council please vote. Motion carries. Next item is MNC 22-0887 report by Stuart Campbell. Good evening Mayor, Council. My name is Stuart Campbell. I'm with the planning annexation section development services. Tonight's item on the agenda is this is an annexation request. This is AX 22-006. This is Baggs East which is an owner initiated annexation. The purpose of tonight is to conduct a public hearing. We're going to open and close the public hearing. Well public hearing is going to be to hear comments from the citizens regarding the annexation request. We're also asked to authorize the execution and municipal service agreement for consideration of adoption of the proposed owner initiated annexation. This request is 249.91 acres of land in Parker County. It's known as Baggs East located at the southeast corner of the intersection of Old Weatherford Road and Farmers Road Road 3325. In addition to this approximately 11.9.46 acres of right of way will be included in an annexation request. This public hearing is required for the annexation Texas local government code. It's required to be held for the purpose of the owner initiated annexation to receive public comments. The notice for tonight's public hearing has been posted on the city's website since October 27th, 2022. The post of notice includes the date of the public hearing, the legal description, drafted the municipal services agreement in a map exhibit. It was published in the Star Telegram on October 28th, 2022. Related to this annexation, this is a full-purpose annexation where the city will enforce all ordinances and regulations and provide all services as stated in the municipal services agreement. Tonight you will see that there's a companion zoning case with this annexation that you will hear next. The related zoning case is ZC 22160. I'll let them go into the details in terms of that zoning request. So in summary, the action requested tonight is to conduct the public hearing, close the public hearing, authorize the execution of the municipal services agreement, and adopt the ordinance AX 22006 for a full-purpose annexation. I would like to answer any questions if you have any questions for Stuart council. Not I'll turn to council member Michael Crane. We have two speakers but only there's opposition. Yeah I'll move to close the public hearing and motion for approval. Motion on the floor. Second council. Second. Thank you. Motion in a second. Please vote. Motion carries. Next item is ZC-22-160. Motion in a second. Any other discussion. Please vote. Motion carries. Next item is MNC 22-0889 with a report by Stuart Campbell. Hi the next item on the agenda this is also an annexation annexation AX 22007. This is known as Alito 34. This is an owner initiated annexation for full purpose. The purpose of tonight is to conduct a public hearing also to authorize the execution of a municipal services agreement and consider adoption of ordinance for the proposed owner initiated annexation. This parcel is approximately 33.625 acres of land in Parker County known as Alito 34. It is located along Old Weatherford Road west of Walsh Drive west of Walsh Ranch approximately 0.915 acres of this annexation request will be right of way in the far west planning sector. The same as before the annexation was published per Texas local government code and they noticed requirements for an annexation request. The proposed owner initiated annexation was noticed October 27th on the city's website posted notice include the date of the public hearing legal description draft a municipal services agreement in a map exhibit. It's also published in the Star Telegram October 28 2022. As a full purpose annexation the city will enforce all ordinances and regulations and will provide all services as stated in the municipal services agreement. This annexation request does have a companion zoning request that will be heard also right after this item related zoning case is zc-2159. In summary the action request of the council is to conduct an open and closed public hearing, authorize the execution of a municipal services agreement and adoption of the ordinance annexation ax 22007. That concludes my comments. We'd like to answer your questions. Thank you Stuart. Any questions council? If not council member Crane. Yeah I'll move to close the public hearing and motion for approval. Motion and a second. Any other discussion council please vote. Motion carries. Next item is zc-22-159. Motion and a second please vote. Motion carries. Next item is mnc-22-0891 with report by Stuart Campbell. The next item on the agenda is annexation request this is ax 22009 Gene Pike Middle School. This is owner initiated full purpose annexation. Again the request tonight is to conduct a public hearing, authorize the execution of a municipal services agreement, consider adopting the ordinance for the proposed owner initiated annexation. This annexation request is for approximately 18.51 acres of land in Denton County. It's known as Gene Pike Middle School, it's owned by the Northwest ISD. It's located west of Blue Mountain Road and south of highway 114 in the far north planning sector. As I mentioned before all these notices were posted together but I'll go through and read this to you. For the Texas local government code the city is required to hold a public hearing the proposed owner initiated annexation to receive public comments. The notice for tonight's public hearing has been posted in the city's website since October 27, 2022. The post to notice includes the date of the public hearing, legal description draft municipal service agreement and map exhibit. It was published in the Star Telegram on October 28, 2022. As a full purpose annexation the city will enforce all ordinances and regulations and provide all services stated in the municipal services agreement. Mayor this particular request does not have a companion zoning. The applicant has chosen to go with the default ag zoning. We'll zone that later time. So in conduct in in summary the request before you is to conduct the public hearing for the proposed new initiated owner initiated annexation to authorize execution municipal services agreement and three adoption of annexation AX 22-0-0 in my mind. I would like to answer any questions. Thank you, Steward. Any questions council? If not we have no speakers. Council Member Firestone. I'd like to move to close public hearing and approve. Motion and a second council please vote. Motion carries. Thank you. Next item is ZC-22-145. We have one speaker on this item and Council Member Bivens. Daniel Marciano. Council member Mayor Pro Tem Bivens. My name is Danny Marciano and I work for Leon Capital, the developer of this proposed project and I'm here to gain your approval tonight for the development of a 187,000 square foot modern commercial facility. I know our case was continued from last month and we've been working diligently with Mayor Pro Tem's Bivens assistant Sandy Bro about it to address some of the citizens concern. We have proposed expanding Tarrant Main to help alleviate trucks exiting the facility to not impede traffic coming north and south on Tarrant Main and we hope that these proposed improvements would help alleviate the community's concern and that's all I have for you tonight. I want to thank you for working with the community and reaching out to Bishop Hornsby and others. I'm going to move to approve this but I want to remind your company that you guys agreed to help with Mosier Valley Park and I expect to see you on December 3rd somewhere near Mosier Valley and I think that time will probably be I'm not sure Sandy will let you know but you notice every time you're here I mentioned that so that you're talking into the camera and the microphone we need your help and with that I move for approval. A motion and a second please vote. You're good. Thank you. Next item is ZC-22-085. There are no speakers Mayor. Apologies Ned. ZC-085. We have no speakers on this item. Council Member Flores go ahead. Yes move for approval Mayor. Go ahead. I moved a call for vote ordinance dash 22 I'm sorry ordinance 22-2557 and just for my colleagues clarification that item was moved to the end of the agenda. So I've got a motion and a point of order. I need a second. A motion and a second please vote on the point of order. Hold on do you got we clarify what we're voting on. So I'm gonna I'm gonna so this is ZC-22-085 I'm gonna end that vote sorry okay that motion carries give her just a second to put that back up there. So there's probably no way to do it electronically I'm assuming it's just a point of order we're just voting on a point of order related to the order of the agenda this evening moving item 22-2557 after the zoning cases because we had no contested zoning cases this evening to allow those to move forward and allow those audience members to go home and have this item at the end because we have over three hours of speakers and I felt as the chair of the evening of the evening it was a prudent to do so on behalf of the constituents of Fort Worth which is why I put this at the end so you can vote on the point of order. Go ahead. So can we can we to be clear if I vote on this item are we gonna mess up the rest of it when we vote later should we vote orally or by hand okay so for clarity we're just voting on the point of order counsel on item relates to moving this position of item 22-2557 yet they're just a point of order on when we put it in the agenda okay please vote motion fails so we'll move back to the zoning cases. Next item is ZC-22-114 so our first speaker on this item is Ray Ojeski followed by Tyler Scott. Good evening Mayor Counsel Ray Ojeski representing the applicant here Mayor was their opposition on this case tonight there's not then I'm going to refrain from speaking thank you thank you Tyler Scott's our next speaker you're okay Tyler thank you that's lots of our speakers council member Nettles move for approval. Motion in a second please vote. Good seeing you too. Motion carries. Next item is SP-22-010. We do have one speaker on this council member Beck Elizabeth Bittner. Mayor and council members I'm a condo owner in the lower Monticello neighborhood and I was extremely dismayed to hear about the proposed high-density residential complex to be built at Montgomery Plaza at the sacrifice of some very useful retail and the overall livability of this area so one of the stores that would be affected would be PetSmart which also has an adoption center a veterinary clinic that has extended hours and sells prescription food diets this offers an extremely valuable service to people who live in the area and around the area everyone prefers or is able to buy everything online so just an example I recently lost a cat to cancer and her in her final months it was challenging to find a food she would eat so at PetSmart I could buy single cans of different food options get back to my house in minutes and have more time at home with her in her last days but imagine instead that I had to drive to Ridge Mar, Bryant Irvin or Lake Worth those are the next closest locations so by removing these retail options you're resigning residents across a wide area to an extra 30 minutes to an hour of car time to accomplish just simple tasks this is time away from family hobbies and other pursuits additionally dozens of jobs would be lost from the stores being removed two stores that offer goods at affordable prices would be lost that's the dollar tree in the five below small business owners community organizations and others who use the print services at Office Depot would have to go elsewhere and the target which would stay is already very crowded on the weekends city leaders say they're interested in increasing walkability but being able to walk to a museum a few times a year or walk to a restaurant a couple of times a month does not make for a complete life unfortunately the boring parts of life must also be accomplished and this development would force hundreds of people to get into cars and leave in search of the practical things that they need regarding traffic even after the current construction is finished there's too much volume coming through this area and no real way to fix it the suggestion of building an extra road to exit onto white settlement is a solution in the vein of adding another lane to a crowded highway these kinds of solutions rarely work the studies detailed in the star telegram claimed that morning traffic would not increase because some businesses would be closed during the morning commute but commuting residents come back in the evening when everything is open and non-residents and other other folks are attempting to visit the retail and entertainment venues the new hotels on camp would also add additional evening traffic so it's already getting very hard to visit many of the places on west 7th street natural grocers for example you have to turn right and make a huge square to get back around to the neighborhoods like Monticello so I just encourage you to consider the experience of people who already live in this area and in surrounding neighborhoods when considering the impact this development would have thank you elizabeth i'll turn to councilmember beck great thank you so i'm going to move to continue this case 30 days or until the december 13th zoning council and i'm doing so for some very specific reasons and so i want to make sure that they're out here on the public record so that is we move forward with the zoning case that both my colleagues and the community are really clear on how we're moving forward miss fitner i would love to be able to control what retail goes into those those facilities unfortunately i cannot you wouldn't be the first resident to ask me to to to be able to do something like that and trust me if i could i would there'd be a lot we'd be able to change but unfortunately the property owners are going to be able to put in or take out what whatever type of retail they feel like the market bears and so um i appreciate that um and they've got a representative here uh kim co will be continuing to manage that property so um hopefully we can make sure that there are still some services particularly one of our pet adoption centers we want to make sure that we have as many of those around the city as possible so i empathize with you uh but unfortunately that particular aspect is out of the control of us here on city council i want this extension because we are very close to reaching consensus within those directly impacted by this development and those are the folks that are one Montgomery Plaza and so seven right there and around that area and we need just a little more time to bring everybody to the table and formalize some agreements so that as we move forward with this particular project we're doing so in a way that has been responsive and respectful to the residents impacted by it that 30 days also gives us a little more time to complete the west seventh corridor i understand that traffic is a concern for people that live or shop eat work or play in that corridor it is kind of a nightmare right now i'll be the first one to admit it but we're almost done we are still on schedule i'll look at uh William Johnson to correct me if i'm wrong but we are still on schedule for november we've got some landscaping and some street striping to to to finish out and then hopefully it will be headache free moving down west seventh that also allows some time to for residents to to settle back into a normal flow of traffic so as we start any potential construction of that project you won't be as impacted and we also want to make sure that the timing is right on the city side so that we can add an additional access point at the north end of that property to alleviate some of that traffic that go that would go on west seventh for residents reaching to reach their their homes i trust city staff i've had multiple conversations about multiple traffic studies and what was out there what's industry standard what's not industry standard and i feel comfortable in their analysis that the traffic patterns yes there will be more people living there but what we know about traffic patterns is that this this residential addition to west seventh should not or will not create additional traffic in a way that you will be impacted because of the timing in the stream and i'm not qualified to speak on that but dana worked off as if she wants to hash that out so 30 days december 13th we'll be back here i have faith because there is no other option that all the parties will get together we will sign our memorandum of agreement and we will move forward with this case thank you a motion and a second please vote council chair is not here if you want to motion to continue carries next item next item is zc dash 22 dash 130 we have one speaker only there's opposition gina randon middleton there is opposition that's my knowledge okay i am going to add some language to this and where is the speaker or the applicant on this you can just you don't have to come down just i want to see where you are to make sure you know about the additional conditions and so i'm going to move to approve zz 22 dash 130 as recommended by the zoning commission and exclude the following uses and this is where you want to listen up indoor amusement event center or rental hall convenient store liquor slash package store so those are the additional exclusions because i need to preserve any kind of spirit of neighborhood you clear okay that's my motion second a motion and a second any other discussion council please vote thank you motion carries next item is zc dash 22 dash 135 our first speaker council more floras is ray ojeski followed by brandon middleton i do not believe there is any opposition but i'm going to turn to you to make sure that's the case thank you just to confirm to ray i'm giving you the opportunity to say anything do you have any new information to provide ray mayor on case cz 22 dash 135 i move to approve motion and a second please vote council no i'm sorry i take that back i i read the wrong thing i'm going to continue this to the december 13th there was a recent conversation there had been correspondence between the eagle mountain second law isd representatives and the developer the developers are representatives there are concerns about the number of student enrollments that number how they're calculated and the capacity at the schools so in talking with them again today we all agree that there will be continuance december 13th 157 is not come to the microphone just for clarification ray just second thank you okay let me check my notes just be sure okay one three one five seven one six five correct one six five is that 135 i did have right the first time that is moved to approval you've had documentation for the oakhurst neighborhood organizations that have all indicated and either will not oppose or support riverside alliance councilmember vintage riverside and domin hill jarvis as well that is great correct yeah i stand corrected thank you so again for full clarification move for approval motion the second please vote council motion carries next item is sp dash 22 dash 017 councilmember nettles move for approval in a second please vote motion carries next item is zc dash 22 dash 153 no speakers on this item councilmember farstone actually mayor we have one speaker she's a caller i apologize flip my page here carol and putney miss putney here please go ahead yes i am the owner of the apartment there at the corner of west seventh and bell street and i was trying to get it rezoned to multifamily because currently it's on a five i believe which is a one single family house the properties to the both to the east of me and to the south of me are medium c medium density multifamily which allows up to 11 units that's what i was proposing my i currently have 23 units there and um i understand that they were trying to get in the monticello area that they were trying to not let people tear down little houses and build bigger things or duplexes or something i am not in that district although i'm close to it but all i'm trying to do is my current property has 23 units and if it got damaged by a you know tornado or a fire or something just want to be at least be able to build back up to 11 units just to protect my investment so that that is what i'm requesting thank you carolin councilmember farstone yes thank you i'm going to move to uphold the zoning commission recommendation of denial motion carries next item is sp dash 22 dash 020 with one speaker on this item uh dr williams derek walls and thank you and but in the interest of time i can defer uh if there's opposition thank you dr williams any questions would you would you just give a quick overview of what the project is this is a celebratory moment so i'm glad you said that i'm not in a rush okay great um and i have handouts for you too briefly the project it's listed on there is kroger but kroger is who jps health network is purchasing the property from i'm by the way i'm derek walls with broadest levis team and we're the project managers for the project the project is a 40 000 square foot new medical home that term is not for overnight stay that term is really for the meant to be more of a friendly community environment within the the facility will have primary care it'll have behavioral health outpatient it'll also have a community center for meetings for education a pharmacy and we've done a lot of work with the community we've done a lot of community outreach events we've got a lot of feedback and we've been able to incorporate all of that into the design of the facility i think that you can see the facility is a very very nice looking facility but also incorporates a lot of the health care needs that are needed in that community and also listed a few things in there that you can see about from the community events that we've held thank you thank you mayor and thank for that presentation also would be remiss if i didn't acknowledge the hard work of commissioner brooks and mr roger miles is here as well glad to see you here my friend and thanks to the jps for all the incredible work that y'all do it goes without saying that you know this is definitely needed in the community and it's a great add to the community district six and the city of forward so um congratulations thank you for all the hard work and we're proud to be able to walk alongside y'all um with that i enthusiastically approve motion in a second please vote motion carries next item is zc dash 22 dash 155 with one speaker uh councilmember firestone kevin caught caught wits good evening mayor and city council members my name is kevin caught wits i'm the ceo of captain car wash i'm a medically retired united states army ranger combat veteran i'm proud to have served my country and once again i'm proud to serve the city of fort worth in which i was born and raised next slide please the site that we are requesting a c up for is an automated car wash facility on a 1.48 acre undeveloped vacant lot located on golden triangle boulevard next slide please our main go with this proposed c up is to be compliant partners with the city hillwood group and be respectful to of our neighboring businesses and residents next slide please over the last decade the car wash industry has undergone a vast transformation made possible by significant advancements in technology our type the express exterior model has adapted an upscale retail aesthetic takes in considerably small smaller footprint to develop than old full served models and the vehicle processing side speed is truly an engineering technique technological marvel next slide please building design and materials are in accordance with the hillwood property commercial design guidelines next slide please our slight plan was designed with fluid traffic flow and noise mitigation as our main goal the plan features a 140 foot tunnel with the capacity of stacking 30 cars before the tunnel 18 self-serve vacuum stations and three automated pay stations equipped with license plate recognition technology next slide please we have designed our site plan with a 300 foot setback from the exit of the tunnel to any existing residential housing other mitigation techniques that we are implementing our noise reduction equipment and enclosed vacuum motor systems this site plan meets all requirements and ordinances next slide please here is a here you can see a simplified schematic of the water recycling technology will use that can be operated as a closed loop system in severe drought conditions but otherwise reduce freshwater usage to 26 gallons per vehicle versus 120 gallons used when washing at home next slide please we are strong believers in giving back to our community we are proud supporters of the kirstie ennis foundation we helped support amputee veterans get moving again we have fundraising events for our local schools churches and nonprofit community outreaches for our local heroes we wash all first responder vehicles for free next slide please in conclusion for all these reasons i have mentioned in this presentation we believe the c up for our use is appropriate for this site thank you mayor and council members thank you i'll turn to council member firestone i think i just just i think council member bivens also has a question okay whenever car wash companies come here i always ask them are y'all know where i'm going with this are you willing to go further east oh absolutely well i need to know how to reach you we got us a cue but i like your product and i've got a whole bunch of homes being built and just think of being south and east and close to jerry's world that that'll kind of get you yes so who are you going to give your car to so i'll know how to reach you give it to her right there yes okay thank you here uh thanks so much for being here and appreciate the presentation thank you most of all for your service uh and how good you are to all of our military we really want to recognize that and thank you for it um so i think it's a terrific project and i think it'll be very additive to the area and i'd like to make motion to approve next item is zc dash 22 dash 158 we have one speaker on this item dr williams and that's mary knell pool only there's opposition i'll turn to you if you know if there is any mary mary are you here she's right here oh hey good to see you did you want to speak on the any no okay um i moved to approve motion in a second please vote motion carries next item is zc dash 22 dash 164 one speaker on this item customer firestone jonathan ragsdale only if there's opposition we don't have any opposition we have one speaker jonathan only if there's opposition move to approve motion a second please vote motion carries next item is zc dash 22 dash 165 council mole floras our first speaker on this item is kenneth fambrough followed by ray ojeski is kenneth here no oh hi kenneth sorry you're good council member um thank you for having me tonight this is this is the deal that we were speaking about this is the one so we are in we're requested for continuance we are in conversation with the isd we have had correspondence and we request a continuous to continue to work through some of the details and in figuring out a school count or a child count that works for the isd and beyond the correspondence also aware that you've had had meetings and all that the isd has kept me in touch so has mr ojeski so i encourage you to continue that uh so my motion if assuming that there are no questions from my fellow council members i think ray is only going to speak in case there's any you know opposition is to continue to december 13th motion and a second please vote thank you motion carries next item is zc dash 22 dash 166 we have no speakers on this item council member firestone i'd like to move to continue until december 13th motion a second please vote motion carries next item is zc dash 22 dash 172 second please vote mayor pro tem bibbons sorry thank you motion carries next item is zc dash 22 dash 174 one speaker on this item council member firestone dean david pitcher only if there's opposition to approve motion a second please vote motion carries the next item is 22 dash 2557 just for clarification is this 22 dash 020 0924 or 0927 sorry i didn't turn my page next item is mnc 22 dash 0924 thank you no speakers on this item council motion a second please vote i'm not trying to vote motion carries next item is mnc 22 dash 0927 no speakers on this item no council member beck motion a second please vote motion carries next item is mnc 22 dash 0928 council member williams thank you mayor i am going to abstain from voting on this item due to a self-initiated conflict of interest and my conflict form is on file with the city secretary and my connection is with the north texas community foundation the nita berry martin fund so i need a motion council well i can vote move for approval perfect motion a second please vote next item is mnc 22 dash 0931 a second please vote motion carries okay next item now is 22 dash 2557 0867 was continued to November 29th perfect so that's end of our agenda okay so we have quite a few speakers on this item council i'm going to start with our first speaker um which is tamera hutterson and tamera is followed by patent jackson and council members my name is tamera and i'm the civic empowerment organizer with united fort worth during my year as the tarant county community organizer with texas jail project a statewide organization that advocates with incarcerated people in texas county jails i was presented with the case of kelly mastin in may 2022 kelly a 38 year old woman with a rare form of epilepsy and cognitive impairment was arrested by fort worth police officers after a family member called stating kelly needed medical assistance and medication modification instead she was booked in deterrent county jail jail where she suffered severe medical neglect seizing daily and being in an in an induced coma at jps hospital though kelly is alive today and reunited with her family the department failed to implement policy changes or consider any recommendations by community members those officers also failed to spell her last name properly and body camera footage showed the family member gave the officers the right spelling of her last name because of this kelly's medical records cannot be found because of the wrong name on paperwork kelly is one of many people with mental and or intellectual and developmental disabilities in fort worth who have been mistreated by police and do not have the capacity or ability to ask for changes within the department to ensure atrocities like these stop happening despite what police chief nox says this board would be adversarial in nature this board is a step in the right direction to bridge trust accountability and transparency between communities and the police this is one of many reasons we need this board with the proposed amendments outlined in the letters you all received from community members so i encourage you to please vote yes thank you our next speaker is patin jackson followed by dr opal lee who'll be by phone good afternoon council councilman floriz i personally reside in your district tone deaf tone deaf is the politest way that i can describe anyone who votes against this board a board that was proposed to supply accountability oversight to a police department that has a track record of not being held accountable now aside from the white house initiative aside from the call to report aside from the three coalition let's refer back to the 97 page panel review that was released earlier this year where they mentioned and i quote officers who engage in aggressive or troubling conduct are free from any consequences except in the most extreme cases i call cap because where is erin dean but let's not talk about that let's talk about the culture that this panel describes which unfortunately includes intimidation retaliation racial slurs excessive force misuse of body cams pistol whipping head punches and more now i'm not saying that we haven't seen progress shout out to nooks he seems nice and sincere but in the great words of jim ron you've got to be more than sincere now while i acknowledge classism tax brackets are not a part of the issue here it's not but if you've been so privileged to never have been disrespected abused or degraded by a person in a position of power than kudos to you but that is not a reality for your voters it is not a reality for your neighbors so let's do this great city some justice and set campaign donations aside and vote yes thank you council there's our callers our first is dr opal leaf followed by jonathan morrison dr lee can you hear me yes please go ahead me yes we can all right i'm trying to say that you've got a police chief and my estimation is doing an extremely good job maybe some of you think he's not but i feel he needs the opportunity to clean up his own house i don't think we should do that for him and if he can't do it then you get somebody else but from my vantage point he's doing a good job i hope i'm speaking to the issue because i got a lot of other stuff on my mind like having to work to pose when i wanted to be at city hall i'm hoping that you'll postpone the vote until all of us who want to say something get an opportunity to thank you council and matty thank you dr lee our next speaker is jonathan morrison mr morrison good morning me good after go ahead can you hear me yes good evening to the to the mayor and council i reside in council district five and i just want to make it easy and say please vote yes i know that there are a lot of people who are telling you to vote no and i like what miss over said about postponing the vote so more people can read that but if you decide to vote tonight and you don't vote yes i think you know what the what the votes will say in the future thank you our next speaker is ariella via followed by jonathan godion please go ahead hello mayor and council um my name is ariella via i am a district two north sider and also the moderator for the north side resident advisory council and a community organizer with the matter for um i urge city council to vote yes on the ordinance to establish a community police review board with the following amendments amend the minimum requirement for board members to include that they cannot be a former or retired or current police officer for any from any city that they must support the board mission of police accountability transparency and fair equitable policing in all communities and footwork that persons with felony convictions can serve on the board if they have fully completed their punishment including any incarceration parole supervision period of probation or be pardoned amend the training requirement to include cultural competency training and continuing education and amend the process for nomination of potential board members to include providing ample time and robust communication for community nominations and posting a final list for community review and feedback before finalists are voted on by council thank you our next speaker is jonathan godion followed by dion sims hi canary would you hear me yes hi good evening my name is jonathan why beyond i reside in the district eighth section of four where the councilman chris nettles district at least for the next few months but i wish to urge the forward city council tonight to vote yes for the establishing of a community review board of the forward police department many of you are aware of the thousand hundreds of cases that are occurring every single year at this point every single week within our city pertaining to folks that are being abused by forward police officers many of you have read the stories and recent start telegram articles pertaining to robert miller for one kentucky perry for another both people who were incarcerated in taren county jail for charges stemming from mental illnesses both people deserve justice they both should still be alive today and would still be alive today if there was some accountability pertaining to how forward police officers handle their arresting and their charges i do want to remind the city council that taren county does have a functioning mental health jail diversion center that has been in operation since early this year however so few people are actually being diverted to that section and many folks are of the mindset that this is due to the fact that forward police officers as well as many other police officers are not fulfilling their duty and actually diverting people where they need to be diverted instead of the taren county jail for these reasons and more i urge the forward city council to please vote on establishing of the community review board of the forward police department thank you all thank you jonathan our next speaker is dion sims followed by daryl davis hello council i am dion sims the founder and ceo of unity unlimited the producer of juneteenth fort worth celebration i am the founding executive director of the national juneteenth museum and i am also the granddaughter of the grandmother of juneteenth miss opalee who is also a Nobel peace prize nominee the 2022 fort worth person of the year the 2021 texan of the year and the 2021 unsung hero of the pandemic as noted by the uk united kingdom company story terrace i don't say all of these accolades to get your applause but to illustrate the amount of attention that the city of fort worth is getting because of all of our accomplishments the entire country is watching how we the city that will house the future symbol of national freedom for the enslaved are holding and preserving the freedoms of our citizens by ensuring that their voices are heard before you today is a vote to represent the voices and the hard work of years in making a starting in 2018 with the task force for race and culture all the way to last month with the formal submission of the creation of the civilian review board the creation of this board is not a knock against our chief of police neil noakes and i hope that people don't characterize it that way chief noakes was a deputy chief when this process started in 2018 and he is not new to the area and knows the history of why the community is asking for the community review board we know that he inherited the police department and he is working to rebuild better and she'd be given the time to write this ship that will not change he already has outside organizations who give him counsel and this would be another one to help give him visibility to the heartbeat of the city so as you think about how you will vote tonight i'd like you to think about the eyes of the nation being on us fort worth the 12th largest city in the nation home to the coming national juneteenth museum in 2025 that can be seen as a beacon of hope for other cities as a model that works well for community and police collaboration i hope that we take the baton to lead the country to the way of freedom as we work to heal america starting with fort worth texas thank you thank you miss sims our next speaker is daryl davis followed by dr michael bell greetings mayor parker and esteemed members of our city council my name is daryl davis i'm the executive pastor of inspiring temple of praise church a lifelong resident of the city of fort worth currently residing in district six i rise this evening to speak to the consciousness of each of you as you prepare to make a decision regarding policing in the city of fort worth i rise tonight to emphasize and amplify the voices of so many in our city who are imploring you to bring balance to a system of inequity that has existed in our city for decades i'm here tonight to earnestly and fervently request that you approve the community police uh policy advisory board for years i along with hundreds of members in our communities have requested and even demanded greater accountability for our police department whether it was following the unnecessary detainment and arrest of miss jackie craig and her daughter the heartbreaking killing of atatiana jefferson or the countless numbers of unhealthy interactions with fort worth pd that did not make local or national news we have pleaded with our elected representatives to provide us with the simple comfort of a community police oversight board there are those who have attempted to paint the picture that anyone who desires oversight of our police department is anti police and that is the furthest thing from the truth there are those of us in our community who appreciate fort worth pd there are those of us who value the relationships that some of our officers have with our neighborhoods churches and various organizations the desire for police oversight board is not about demonizing police officers it's about ensuring healthy relationships with the communities in which our officers have sworn to protect and serve the fact of the matter is this any relationship void of accountability has the potential to be a toxic relationship those of you seated on the platform tonight have the power to enhance the relationships between the communities you were elected to serve and the fort worth pd too many atrocities have happened in our city and the victimized communities have been left feeling unheard dismissed and disregarded communities of color continue to lose faith and trust in the very institutions and individuals that come to our churches neighborhood associations community groups and fraternal organizations promising change only for things to remain the same tonight you have the opportunity to be the source of change that we need in fort worth each of you have the power to give the communities what they've been seeking for years each of you are in a unique position to allow your concern for all of your constituents to be seen and felt so we're here tonight to see what will prevail will you choose people over politics will you choose individuals over endorsements will you prioritize community needs over campaign contributions your vote tonight will answer those questions charles blow said it best there is no time there is no wrong time to do the right thing the time for you to do the right thing is now thank you dr michael bell we followed by bishop kirkland uh mayor parker and um mayor pro tem bivins and council my name is michael bell tonight i stand in support of ordinance 22-2557 to establish a much needed community police policy advisory review board after 18 months the uh forward the racing culture task force presented their final recommendations back in december 2018 one of the recommendations was for the commissioning of a civilian review board and now almost four years later we're still struggling with that recommendation civilian review boards are a not the but a response to the question of who should hold police accountable of course there are a number of mechanisms that are supposed to do so already but for the most part they are all internal which is too often the case of the fox guarding the henhouse i served on a couple of police chief advisory boards during the 10 years of the chief's uh jeff holstead and joe fist jewell the chief's advisory board with members appointed by the chief was in each instance a meaningless exercise in futility it was a cruel joke i personally find no reason no sustainable logic to believe that a board or commission appointed by the chief in this city will be a positive for police community relations to even offer the chief advisory board as an option or alternative to a civilian review board defies logic it doesn't make sense on any level it's a failed solution civilian participation in police policing is one of the keys to this city narrowing the burgeoning chasm between the police and me and and me and uh marginalized communities the particularly naive mech mech nations of compromised clergy who by the way can easily be charmed to mesmerize and bamboozled by uh public officials elected and appointed can't negate or nullify the need for community participation in policing the forward police department has received two failing grades else the Coleman report and the forward police department panel of experts and it doesn't make any sense on any dishonorable or comprehensible level for this ordinance not to pass unless the end game is not better police community relations but continuing maligning of racial ethnic minority communities bishop Kirkland will be followed by rachel golly gillay i guess my doctor's orders i'm appearing before this board tonight because my initial plea with the city from the time of jackie craig i've employed you as council members to mandate a community oversight committee no hails fire or pneumonia could keep me away from this lectern tonight i was selected as a member of the task force on race and culture i remember that we had an exercise to determine how much we believe our recommendations will be taken seriously on the scale of one to ten we're asked to position ourselves on the wall i stood at ten i was asked why did i believe that i said to my counterparts i would not be here wasting my time if the city was not going to take our recommendation seriously as a black man that's been on this precious soil of yashua for up to six decades the most valuable possession that i have is my time the task force recommended to this body that we needed a community oversight committee please council don't waste my time there are names on my shirt like michael bram sandra blaine taymar rice dante right a tatiana jefferson brianna taylor erick garden jordan edwards yvette smith all died at the hand of rome out of control police officer i included amad abri and tayvon marden uh because the police department and their communities let them down on the back of the shirt it says how we still going through this how in the hell can we still be language in the corner of american society while living in a vast ocean of material prosperity and safety why are the nets of safety not reaching my village the security of transparency is what we are seeking there's no reason to hide your hands if there's no blood on them there are those with nothing to hide will welcome another resource at their disposal to eliminate any appearance of dishonesty what a remarkable dispensation we live in we have a great chief of police who i like who i see taking an active role in our community but i would also like him to have some say in this board we need this oversight board a good faith will show to our community that your conscious and your minds are in order with ensuring transparency matter mayor councilwoman bivvz you do not absolutely see one single pastor preacher deacon or activist more than you see this face you reached out to my colleagues concerning this issue why in the hell would not include it i'm not begging to be included i am saying i'm demanding to be included and jenna your time has come our next speaker is rachel goli followed by adrian smith hello council my name is rachel goli i'm a community member in district nine and tonight i want to urge the council to vote yes on the ordinance to establish a community police review board along with the amendments that have been recommended tonight and will probably continue to be recommended and also set forth by united forward in a pure research study only 27 percent of police reported that poorly performing officers are held accountable for reported misconduct and that's within policing existing internal mechanisms tend to be weekly enforced and are susceptible to racial bias the conclusion is that police accountability cannot be entirely left in the hands of departments themselves rather police should be held accountable by their key stakeholders the everyday residents and citizens of fort worth through a community police review board and that's why i want to urge you today to vote yes on a review board that's made up of representatives from the fort worth communities that the department is sworn to protect and serve thanks our next speaker is adrian smith followed by lucrecia pal adrian smith uh district three let the words of my mouth and the meditations of my heart be acceptable in our sight oh lord former chief joe fisterel the race and cultural cultural task force and um outgoing officer police oversight monitor appreciate i saw in her miss miss neal when i think about these three aspects of individuals i think about a four by four relate this relay started with former police chief joe fisterel although his leadership was undermined and later he was made out to be someone he wasn't and later wrongfully terminated he was able to pass the baton on to the race and cultural task force which some of those members are here um they later were whatever reason it was passed on to miss neal so here we are now at the end of the four by four relay and the baton is now being passed to our elected officials to see the council now i would be wanting to say like miss openly stated it was in my heart as well to put a pause on this vote and my reason being is as you all can feel the temperature of this room some to some is cold to some is warm but i believe the temperature of this room right now is is at a point of boiling so like miss opal lee stated it was in my heart to say put a pause on this vote and reason being is because we have a a trial coming up in a short time which based on your decision tonight rather which way it goes there are people waiting to i guess say as we would say take things to another level so in respect to the trial that's coming up which we have potential juror um i'm saying it right potential people who might sit on it their juror you might be amiss to hold off on this vote because we have time you all but out of respect for the the late miss our titiana jefferson i would say just let's give it some more time thank you our next speaker is lucrecia powell followed by bruce miller good evening mayor pro tems and mayor excuse me get even mayor get even mayor pro tems and the council too often when matters or issues are not properly addressed handled and corrected it it has diminished the integrity of the forward police department due to this being so prevalent in particular areas of our society today the bridge of trust yet awaits to be seen the community police review board would be the catalyst for the bridge of trust that's needed chief notes it's no process to trust without the community police advisory review board councilman baylock councilman firestone one of the faces of the community police review board would be for you all to host a round table and invite black and brown citizens so we can talk about the racial encounters that i've had and others have had in your district councilman crane i would say to you thank you for the given heart that you have for all children no matter their socioeconomic background and with that same elevated heart for all people i'm asking you to support this community police review review board to the council as a whole can we count on you to trust the people the citizen of this city who trusts and counted their ballots their votes for you to sit where you sit today to unite taren county as a whole in one body please give your vote a yes a yes for this board thank you our next speaker is bruce miller followed by leon re jr bruce miller i live in district three uh dear mayor and council members the jacqueline craig incident led to the creation of the race and culture task force two major recommendations were the establishment of a police oversight board and an independent redistricting commission initially city manager cook supported all 22 task force recommendations however the council pushed back the irc was rejected and a police monitor substituted for a community oversight board following continuing police department problems an external review board was constituted their final report explained that police department policies were adequate but not adequately enforced that's where we stand today unfortunately the city has squandered valuable years large sums of money and the confidence of its citizens to come to where we are now kind of back to square one the current proposal is a step in the right direction for realizing the recommendations of the race and culture task force but it might not go far enough in offering the committee members necessary independent investigative authority the creation of an effective civilian rear review board was carefully laid out a couple of years ago in getting it right that's the title of an article by u d offer and i hope you can consider it i i left you the reference the underlying source of our police department problems is the involve the involvement of the police and fire department unions in city politics so long as this essential defect is allowed to exist the city will lack the commitment to properly control the police department i recommend a yes vote but more is needed so thank you and i might add i know i have a couple more seconds that i listen to the work session i listen to the remarks of kim neal of chris nettles and chief notes and i think you could all look at this article and see that some review boards work well and others do not i know the chief is very concerned that he knows examples where they don't work but there are examples where they're very effective and that's laid out by author thank thank you and read junior followed by bob ray sanders good evening mayor parker and council quite frankly i'm confused as to how there could be opposition to this when for years people of color in the fort worth community have been clamoring for a consent decree to be placed on fort worst police department i just don't understand how every other week the police department invites community leaders out to their headquarters and ask us for their support on programs such as able and epic ethical policing is courageous that they don't want oversight i find it mind boggling that they keep coming to the community every other week and saying help us increase our recruiting pool we are looking for change agent minded recruits our motto is be the change and yet there's so much resistance to change i find it hard to believe madam mayor that since 2002 when racial profiling data was mandated by the state that two decades later there has not been one single year that people of color and specifically african americans councilman fire stone have not been searched cited stopped and arrested disproportionately to our representative population not one single year i'm trying to reconcile that when you go when you look at the use of force report starting with 2021 that half of that pie when it comes to uses of force have been committed by officers with with five or less years of experience but that's no surprise because it happened in 2020 that half of the uses of force from fort worth police department officers came from officers with less than five years experience but that's not a surprise because in 2019 over half of the uses of force from police officers came from officers with less than five years experience but that's not a surprise because well over half of the uses of force from fort worth police department officers in 2018 seven slash eight to six forty five officers with less than five with five or less years of experience yet we sit here and we act like the city doesn't need citizens oversight members of law enforcement derive their authority from the public and therefore must be ever mindful that they are not only the guardians but also the servants of the public those are not my words their police general order 306.01 bob ray sandals will be followed by pamela young good evening madam mayor council i rise this evening as a lifelong resident of the city and a member of a family that's been here for 160 years and i just say that to say that i know fort worth texas i know it well it is the place that i care about deeply it is the place that i love in spite of his faults and imperfections as the native son of fort worth i rise to implore you elected officials to do the right thing tonight as it relates to the proposed community police policy advisory board i know some of you perhaps most of you have already decided to vote against it and i'm sure there's nothing i can say here tonight that would change your minds but as my angela would say and still i rise because i want to be on record i want you to feel that you're a vote of this well thought out proposal it wasn't thrown together that if you vote against it it would be the greatest mistake that you've made if you vote against it it'll be the greatest mistake you made uh we've waited for leadership for a long time we ask you to be leaders tonight we ask that you give communities that think they've been betrayed and in fact have been to a great degree give them a reason to trust the system that has been unjust these communities that who feel that to this day they are still waiting to be treated fairly and with dignity i also rise tonight as a co-chair of the task force on race and culture which spent almost two years listening to thousands of people talk about the disparities they face in this community and they talked about the shortcomings particularly of our police department and the criminal justice system in general and i just want to say that we did this the fort worth way we said guess what i looked at 20 different cities and their proposals and we said no we're not going to adopt another cities we're going to create our own because that's what fort worth needs and that's what fort worth did so i'm out of time and i'll sit down i just urge you to do the right thing by passing the ordinance and i ask you to do the right thank you bob ray thank you community of color pamela young is our next speaker sorry to cut you off bob ray that's all right i just want to say this is my hometown that i love in spite of our next speaker is pamela young followed by rodney mackintosh hello i'm pamela young i live in district nine and i'm a community organizer with united fort worth all of you have received my correspondence asking you to vote yes for all the reasons that have been stated already i just want to say and with the amendments that we've proposed because we feel like those are very important people like pastor rodney mackintosh who is about to speak as the ordinance is written right now he would be barred from serving on this board because he has a felony conviction in his history but his rights have been restored he can vote and so he should not be barred from serving on this board as a matter of fact he has the very experience that someone serving on this type of board would need one of the types of experience those are outlined in the ordinance too i'm asking you all to vote yes for this ordinance with the amendments because it is for one reason because it is what the community that you have been elected to serve has asked for the community has asked for this and this board is not adversarial that's outlined in the ordinance this board is not oversight by the way to anybody who's using the word oversight that is not what this board is oversight sits right there police monitor and her office and she's about to leave god bless and someone else will take her place but that is oversight the opom this board is review and it is by any standard the most light touch review that there could ever be what are we afraid of what are we afraid of of that's very telling for anyone who votes no tonight that's very telling that you're afraid of something you're afraid to hear from your constituents um that's scary to me it's very scary and i'm i'm looking at certain people but i'm i'm wanting you to sit with this and and really think about it before you make your vote tonight this is not your vote should not be for anyone else except for the community who asked for this remedy this light touch remedy thank you our next speaker is rodney mackintosh i don't see rodney anywhere it's pastor mackintosh here no if he walks in i'll come back to him our next speaker is Juan Satello followed by kenya alu is Juan here no kenya alu kenya will be followed by twig jones good evening mayor parkland council i'm here to speak against the community policy advisory board in my organization or in my past careers a registered nurse there are superiors who we report to you those who monitor how we do our jobs we do not have need for other layers of monitoring by an independent board of citizens which excludes any person who has had any first hand knowledge of what we do to form a committee for oversight and we convince words all we want but we know that's what it what it is i've heard the term over and over to form this committee and purposely exclude former officers family members of officers um just that in itself exposes the intent of this board chief notes is the supervisor of the police department he's accountable to the city council and why it's thought to be a good idea to add another layer of people to monitor police can y'all hear me i feel like the mic went off especially when you exclude those who actually know the ins and outs of the job it's not a very bright decision how can a group of people with no expertise in law enforcement be deemed judge and jury over our police officers this is highly inappropriate will cause division and contention between fort worth police officers and community members and i urge you to vote no to to this committee or any other committee that resembles anything to do with police oversight um i'm disappointed to hear uh some of the intimidation tactics i've heard from other members when they've spoken with you um i don't want to intimidate anybody i don't think i could i just the loud voices aren't representative of the entire community it's important to know that many people in fort worth wanted to be here tonight but it's election day and they're working the elections i i spoke with countless people who could not be here today they wanted to be but they're at the polls and they're engaged in the election process and unable to be here in person so let's um take that into consideration as well thank y'all our next speaker twig jones will be followed by andrew pilot i am so honored to be here this is my first time to witness how this works and i'm very i'm blessed i've been here since the fourth grade when my dad was air force and brought us here and i've watched the city change it's it's my heart like bob race that i want to see this city become more and the people become more and i've watched the west side that was once beautiful has been degraded and there's battles over on that side and i've watched the east side with pastor rodney the battles he said but um i come because i've had an opportunity to have many experiences with the police department and i can't say there's greatness in this room every one of you that's spoken has heart and i'm i'm privileged to be in this room with you everyone so i think it's not so much for and against as it is how do we do it together um i've had a house broken into and the police were so good to talk to me after that and help me walk through the process i've had to do an eviction on a rent house and i was scared to death and they showed up and helped me through it and it was through a friend that we had to say goodbye to and it could have been ugly um i have another friend that happened to live in north richland hills when the active shooter was there in which uh numerous multiple police departments worked together in a coordinated effort and he ended up in her front yard and it could have been much worse even though there was shootings involved could have been so much worse um i guess i'm a person that you know i tend to see the the glass half full you're making progress all of you are making progress and some of the most beautiful people in my life are a different color than i am and i hope you you know allow me to be what god shows for me but anyway um i also had a marine daughter that took her own life and it looked like a homicide at the time and it was the most devastating thing we walked through and the police officers were so helpful to get us through a crisis in our family we're still recovering from that um and they treated me with respect concern patience and and answered all my questions as good as the title sounds uh community is people not boards i would suggest there may be something even more creative here to do my husband was in health care and was reported as for a minor offense by a director that determined to take this special nursing department out he suffered incredible stress while he was under that having to defend himself against that while he was uh ministering and servicing 22 patients so this is a stress that maybe is going to be detrimental to the police thank you miss jones i'm sorry your time's expired thank you our next speaker our next speaker is andrew pilot followed by scott graham is andrew here no scott graham scott will be followed by mary michael townsen good evening council my name is scott graham i am a resident of fort worth i've lived uh here for the last 19 years in the fossil creek area and i'm in allen blalox district for the past six years i have volunteered within the fort worth police department i have uh over 1500 hours in the patrol car serving in a chaplain's capacity and i've worked with officers and citizens all over the city i have taken calls literally in every division in the department i've been privileged to help hundreds of citizens i've worked in uh colmo stop six los vegas trail and short north and trust me i've been on a learning curve that sometimes i can't keep up with when working with people and trying to help people the best way we can i'm here today just to state that i'm against this proposed ordinance to add a community police policy advisory board i'll give you three reasons why i believe uh we have a very good police oversight monitor um who i respect miss kim neal i'm sad to hear that she's leaving i think she's done an excellent job and i think uh her and chief nox are working together very efficiently to make progress uh i like that she's a collaborative voice to the council city manager and to the police chief i've read some things about what she has in her literature it says literally her role is to foster community trust through collaboration and law enforcement accountability and transparency and i do have a copy of the brochure and the flyer that's put out and literally her office is doing almost a hundred percent of what this ordinance is trying to reduplicate our police chief uh did advise the council in a workshop and uh he said this is in his opinion unnecessary and he's generally seen his devices in communities where it's been implemented i make note that chief nox does have a boss he works for the city manager at the pleasure of the of the manager and has oversight by miss neal in the proposed ordinance it states that no residents who have served in law enforcement who have or even who have any family who has served in law enforcement or in policing are welcome at this new proposed table in this ordinance i found that to be extremely biased they used a word that said i had i had to look up in the dictionary be honest i'm from west virginia and i couldn't even find it in my dictionary consanguinity which means that anybody in my family tree that's been in law enforcement even though i haven't been means i'm disqualified from serving on that board so again that's my position i want to thank the council for your role in our community all of you you all have a good voice and i appreciate each and every one of you thank you thank you scott our next speaker is mary michael townsen followed by carlos tercios hi good evening it's nice to be here um my name is mary michael townsen and i am a lifelong i can't read without my glasses y'all i'm so sorry i feel like it looks very rude to be looking down but i'm a born and bred resident in the fort worth and i take great pride in being a member of this city i moved away for many years and came back four years ago was best move i've ever made i shouldn't have ever left to the dismay of many people um for whom i have immense respect coming up here it's hard and i recognize that but i want to say i strongly urge a no vote on this agenda item and i'd like to tell you why um our police are among the nation's best and i know that because i've lived apart from seeing different stats that i read about in the news i've lived in dallas austin houston san Antonio boston massachusetts and this is a very very special place and we are so blessed to live here our police have sworn an oath to serve and to protect and to abide by the rule of law and in general they're great at it and they're not perfect but no one is we're all flawed people that's why we're human that's what makes us human but they've earned the reputation of being a great police force we have accountability for them as has been already stated here tonight we have a great police chief um in a very tough job in a very tough era we have the city council we have the mayor that and that's really enough we even actually have as has been mentioned the office of police oversight monitor what's frustrating as a citizen is that i think we already have through these three layers especially with the addition of the monitor we've got a message that's going out saying you can't be trusted and that's not true i mean i look around here and i see men and women of all colors and of all you know historical geographical ancestry and they're all great people who've sworn an oath and they can be trusted you know one of the things i like to say is that incident we don't need a fourth layer of review or oversight is that we have to make sure we are being transparent and transparency comes from being able to see the truth and it comes from having the freedom to act according to one's conscience within the bounds of the law and this remain this means removing barriers to that freedom so in terms of fairness and justice i'll just remind you that there is one author of justice and that's god it's not us and as the pastor who started off the invocation said he doesn't see our color he doesn't see our sex he sees us as his own children and that's why justice has to be blind so to quote martin luther king a just law is a man made coat that squares with the moral law god thank you miss townsen let's keep that in mind and i urge you to vote no carlos tercios carlos tercios will be followed by ruth ray all right good evening um minus carlos tercios first time speaking in front of city council i will say because i've been doing all the school board meetings ever since i was 15 years old uh so i guess at the age of 21 i can finally speak in front of city hall uh today i want to talk about the uh board as being proposed and i will say that i urge the council to vote against this board uh the committee the committee would not have law enforcement or any family members of law enforcement and frankly that's seen as biased this committee would have members that are not experienced with law enforcement well already i will state that we already have a police oversight monitor and the role is to foster community trust and collaboration accountability the police chief has already stated this is the necessary as well not only this but this would just add another layer layer of bureaucracy between the police department and the police chief and council we already we also do not have the director for the office of police monitor as she's she'll be leaving bodies want to say that this is nothing more than a attack against our law enforcement i have relatives in north side i have relatives because i also hispanic the hispanic community supports law enforcement you go to north side you go to henfield you go to these areas and they will come out and they will say i'll pull out the police here i'll pull out pas y seguridad i know there's going to be guys there's nothing more than an attack against law enforcement ladies and gentlemen i have met law enforcement here in footwork i have done projects with them i volunteered i've done a lot of things they are working 24 seven 24 seven every single day to ensure that we are protected to ensure that the homicides that happen in our city that the rapes that happen in our cities that all the crime that happens in our city are dealt with in an effective and respectful manner this committee is nothing more than a political attack by three council members one of whom represents my district and it is discouraging it is frankly this disappointing to see these council members divide the city divide communities and not only that have a political agenda and that is to basically support a defunded police movement and to attack law and order because at the end of the day that is what they're wanting to do that's what they're going to be pushing this committee will have people that will not be experienced go to the spanish community and they are the largest group in this city and they will say you'll pull the police and we do not support this they that that's what they'll say go to north side get south side go to any of these areas i can guarantee you that support law enforcement support law and order vote against this and support footwork and put footwork first thank you our next speaker is ruth ray followed by jim dalong just just let it just let's just let him speak good evening thank you hi i'm ruth ray and i'm out of uh district seven and i just i'm gonna go ahead and read this it'll be a little easier thank you to each person here tonight for your service to the city of fort worth i was recently made aware of agenda item 22257 which seeks to add another layer of oversight to the fort worth police department through the community police policy advisory board i'm disappointed that consideration for this advisory board was added to the calendar for discussion on election day a day when many of the citizens of fort worth who might normally participate in this conversation have election related responsibilities and cannot be present while many residents feel that some oversight is good we already have an office of the police oversight monitor i urge you to reject this additional layer of bureaucracy and vote no in opposition of agenda item 22257 557 after reading the proposed applications and qualifications stated in the community police policy advisory board it appears that this board is focused on creating a committee by which the members would not would need to share a marginalized group advocacy perspective whether it be a homeless advocate incarcerated persons advocate mental health disability advocate or similar other marginalized group advocate a solely marginalized advocacy perspective is exclusionary to our broad population our city is made up of 935 000 residents many of whom have valid diverse input in regards to police practices policies and recommendations who do not have this sort of advocate see experience but probably have or could have a broad understanding of the law civil rights policing and incarceration as well as practices to build a safer community the minimum requirements listed for potential members of the cppab are set up to form a biased board in respect to the overall citizenship of of fort worth this board would lack perspective many of the fort worth residents and taxpayers that i know find this criteria to be non-inclusive when a person is selected to serve on a committee they're expected to have a high level of understanding of the agency for which they'll be advising um this board would not i urge you to vote no and reject this agenda item thank you her next speaker is jim dalong followed by john bun good evening i'm jim dalong wasn't in a fort worth i'm in opposition to this board one of one of the considerations for me is last week i talked about the review uh report and how in a couple of sentences they showed out right blatant bias the police department totally eradicated a very serious situation from 154 to 0 and yet that report slammed the police department for being able to handle themselves and do the right thing so part of the issue is in today's world we're polarized we're blinded by our ideologies where where is any middle ground so we're wanting to vote on this board and people are taking that report to prove the police departments in effective ineffectiveness to govern themselves well let's get the report right that report is biased but we're using the biased report to come against our police department who people say are biased so you have biased over here you have biased over there having a report that's biased against our police department isn't going to help anything i don't care how many hundreds of thousands of dollars we spent and got experts they were expertly biased i could go through that report and show time and time and time and time time again in that report that proves that they're biased so if we're going to get it right let's get it right if we're going to if we want a police department and we're going to want these things let's have the root of those things be unbiased but we don't live in a day like that today like i said we're we're blinded by our ideology what can we come into agreement with and start there some of these issues the chasm is too strong the hurts are too deep and the history is too long so i i really encourage you vote no vote against this we can come up with something better we in fort worth can do better by this thank you john bun will be followed by mike c is john it's sorry is is john here mr bun yes i'm here please go ahead uh yes my name is john bun and my wife Stacy and i live in district six and um all of the people that have spoken tonight um i i have heard um the entire call uh or the entire time those in person and those on the call and um i do empathize and and see this from both perspectives but i agree with all of the opinions that have been stated to vote against i will add any more to that other than to say as a taxpayer in that district and in the city of fort worth i commend um the council uh i and the police department and the chief um i do believe uh as mr delong stated um that we can come up with something better um so i urge you to vote no our next speaker is mike c followed by felicia clement good evening again here we are with another marxist portland style of attack coming from united fort worth on our police officers many of the victim class cultivated by united fort worth do not care to abide by societal rules and feel they shouldn't have to however there are laws in place and and a justice system that needs to stand do we have issues with police and if we do and we have and we have oversight in place to correct it and a justice system to carry out the solution the proposals of united fort worth is is requesting is requesting or infantile at best this group is filled with anti police anti white anti capitalist anti america malcontents that want to overthrow this system of government starting at the local level right here i'll bet none of them know any policing procedures such as something simple as the use of force continuum and they want to regulate our police this small sliver of of our safety and security here's what they propose one no former retired or current police officer from any city will be on the board well that's a loss of expertise in the subject clearly this shows a total disdain these marches have for law and order to support the board mission of police accountability transparency fair and equitable policing in all communities in fort worth now when the word equity is used what they're really talking about is hatred they hate you your country and your pursuit of a better way of life and the freedom to do so they want to tear everything down strip you of your rights destroy your way of life destroy your family call you a racist a colonizer a misogynist etc guilt tripping you into submission some of you right in in front of me have already submitted you're in a psychosis of believing that the trash these marches spew what does equitable policing even mean in this case i suppose it means everyone is placed up against a car and restrained whether or not they are cooperating or not equity is just another weaponized word used by the marxist maybe united fort worth could explain what equitable equitable policing actually means three board members may be convicted felons who have been released from prison on parole probation or pardoned in the marxist clown world this is their form of justice there is no integrity here whatsoever anyone knowing anything about prison gangs cartels blood in blood out street gangs can tell you how this can go wrong real quick with a board such as this four include cultural competency training and continuing education law enforcement already next speaker is felicia clement followed by ryan smith good evening i'm felicia clement clement with district six and first of all i want to thank each and every one of you for allowing me to speak tonight um i um like scott have volunteered with the fort worth police department since 2017 i have been in the cars with the officers and i have seen their the kindness the respect that they treat uh the way they treat the citizens and all over the city we i have also sir we also spent an evening in komo and i've seen the respect of these officers um it has been mentioned i know it's already been mentioned about the oversight board for the fort worth police department the office of police oversight monitor was developed in 2020 miss kim neal heads a diverse team that works with the city council city manager police chief her role fosters community trust they collaborate with law enforcement as well as accountability there is also which i had mentioned a chief's advisory board which was um which sim simply needs reinstated that's it it simply needs reinstated the oversight review board you are proposing will be redundant as there's already a working board in place creating a new board simply because the current one needs updating is not the best use of our taxpayer dollars as far as the board itself goes it has been clear that any person with any type or knowledge or experience in law enforcement would be excluded from this committee to the extent that even felons will be considered this in and of itself is exclusive and discriminatory to certain tax paying citizens it is my opinion that its divisiveness is not only imminent but built into the ordinance being that the council would be appointing the members would this not simply be an extension of your own power our officers have considerable training it is rigorous with many hours spent learning the ever changing laws um the ordinance would call for civilians to provide input and guidance to the most qualified most highly trained persons in the force including the chief of police how can a person with no understanding of the job itself give any constructive help in these situations i am most concerned that this appears to be yet another layer of bureaucracy that does not improve the police department actually stands to hurt the safety and reputation of our beautiful city by tying the hands of the officers i'm very proud of the men and women who lay down their lives to serve and protect the citizens of fort worth i have seen them do magnificent things they are brave courageous and they care about the citizens it is for this reason that i am not in support of this proposal if any civilian citizen review or oversight committee i vote against the proposal and thank you next speaker is ryan smith followed by ramona burns is ryan here no ramona burns madam mayor city council um i am i am unprepared to speak i just meant to say that i attended and i just want to thank you for the work that you do for our city uh i can't imagine thank you thank you our next speaker is amanda colman is amanda here bobby mccurdy hi bobby good evening mayor city council um bobby mccurdy i reside in district three um i'm incredibly concerned about the item on the agenda not because i think it's a bad concept entirely but because i know firsthand that the attitudes and agendas tend to trickle down from top leadership whether it be an corporation a nonprofit city government and you all are our leaders and you set the tone for this committee if it passes um and this committee will set the tone for our future as a city i do not stand here strictly in opposition for the committee entirely um especially if it would allow the opportunity to build a bridge between residents and our law enforcement who work so hard every day to protect us but i do stand in opposition to the proposed ordinance how it is written specifically where it mentions that no law enforcement or you know they can have anybody in their family has ever been law enforcement that bothers me um and i just hope to provide a different perspective um i've served in the past on several different boards commissions and committees for the city for both district three and district seven i've a total of five since 2004 and there are all different varieties from the library advisory boards stormwater policy advisory committee um to the fourth appeals board which as you all know but everybody else may not has to do with the downtown design review board the historic landmarks commission of the building standards commission so i i have a lot of experience serving on different boards and i can tell you as a person who was always there representing the neighborhoods as a citizen this concerns me because there was so much knowledge that you get from other board members that maybe you know if you're on the library advisory board and you're the citizen and you've never been an educator but there's a retired teacher sitting next to you and a retired librarian sitting next to you i served on stormwater committees again i was a homeowner who had their house flooded i just wanted change in my neighborhood and was fortunate that my city council member appointed me to that board but there was so much that you know we could do working together residents business owners developers coming together sitting around the table and learning from one another seeing each other's perspective and so i think that's where this is lacking so i urge you to please vote no as it is written i think that this is an innovative city we've been one of the largest growing cities for decades as y'all know let's do something different be creative and i mean i'm sure there's retired law enforcement and other individuals that have that expertise in every district why not lead by example as this committee and and have you know citizens from every district and thank you miss mccarrion enforcement from every district working together our next speaker is rusty fuller our next speaker is rusty fuller by phone i believe yes mr fuller yes thank you mayor mayor and council i'm rusty fuller i live in district four i'm president of the north warthworth alliance on his behalf i appear tonight you have received our comments opposing the the adoption of this ordinance and we urge you to vote against the council put in place the office of police oversight and monitoring to do the tasks set forth in section two that's three zero of the uh draft ordinance the office has not it's only been in place one year and is reporting success and resolving citizen complaints pertaining to the port worth uh police department initiating another administrative body to look at the same information and make recommendations on the same information as a waste of time and money the council has already hired impartial subject matter experts to review the port worth police department procedures they have made recommendations on improvements the progress of the implementation of those recommendations are periodically reported to the council the first draft report was received by the council in august of 2022 in both cases the council has not given the current outside review of improving policies a chance to prove it's worth now the cons now the council wants to throw in another administrative body whose roles seem redundant and whose interactions with the public are unidentified this is untimely and may very well be unnecessary we hear you that you are receiving complaints from your constituents about the police department are you referring them to the opom do you follow up to see if the dispute was a ever raised to the opom and b if it was resolved we heard of you had a presentation at the first annual report of the opom that disputes are getting resolved our final point tonight is that no one is looking at the community elements that keep stoking distrust in our police department instead of another administrative board to look at police policies and procedures we suggest you look into a board that looks into ways to identify the real root causes for the distrust is being stoked and work on those causes this is a two-sided issue and you are focusing only on one side our police department through the ccpd and funding has taken tremendous steps in trying to bolster community relations we have seen super improvements over the last three police chief police chiefs in bringing to a new policing method please please please focus on both sides of the point thank you our next speaker is david mendez followed by jackie cox haven't seen david jackie cox jackie if you want to use that microphone right there you may if you'd like to you can right there in front of you yes ma'am that'll turn on thank you council it's good to see you again except if i don't stand up i can't see you can you hear me yes ma'am good thank you i have been following the whole problem of escalated violence of police against the community since i moved to for back to fort Worth in 2010 and it's getting i hope to where it's about to be better what i find from reading the fully expert panel review is that you have great policies and some problems some glitches with respect to getting the policy implemented top down in other words there are people within the department who don't discipline officers who have been found to have repeated violations of policy and there are conflicts about getting that in order and moving correctly i think that's a real problem and it may or may not be addressed by adopting a police oversight board i am very much in favor of a police oversight board and i'm hoping that you won't give up on the mission of getting problems in the department resolved it is not a bad police force it is a police force with a few people who create problems when i or at least that's sort of how i see it so i'm hopeful that you will not throw out baby with bath that you will continue to bring people in who will provide oversight and that you will keep working on the problem because we deserve a city in which all persons no matter how poor they may be they might be homeless but they should not be abused by the police and that does happen sometimes so i ask that you be careful as you cast your vote that your ordinance leaves space for fixing what we've been worried about for a long time while preserving the gains you've made thank you our next speaker is bob willoughby followed by james smith let's drop one thing here a lot of people say you're our leaders you're not our leaders we're stockholders you took enough to serve us okay that's what's wrong we're equal you're not ahead of us i sure don't want you leading me let me tell you something else a lot of people come to here and thank you and turn it around we can read it please um and bless you and all that kind of good stuff there you people took away our right to speak that's our first amendment there is nothing more important than our first minute so how can people come there and trust you they took away our right to speak now this let's get the cart before the horse a lot of you probably haven't been involved as long as i have or chris i was at a meeting with chris about seven years ago and a city manager about 40 people black people there the only white person was a manager when i walked in he's happy to see me so it made him feel better but anyway chris is the one that i got the ideal from the oversight committee the police in the citizen oversight committee and that's what we were asking for a citizens oversight but like council does they don't give you what you asked for they give you a watered down version and i would have yelled against the police monitor oversight from the beginning if it wasn't for that i like him on ill that's the only reason i hadn't yelled about that that ought to be dissolved the citizen oversight ought to be first like we asked then if we need a monitor then bring it in but you didn't give us what we asked for first you gave us what i want now if we don't get the oversight it's okay because look who's going to be in charge of it the mayor and city council and red there and the neighborhood associations the first one they go to there are corrupt neighborhood associations they're owned by the council i had a meeting with a manager about four months ago about mine they hold secret elections for the last four years i can't run for office my neighborhood the john t want neighborhood association i gave him the documents i gave him everything to prove that they're in violation you know what i get from them zero but yet we're going to go in their hood association to ask about this meeting no now i'm off for an oversight but i want to know one thing will every application be posted on the website for us to see will there be a task force holding meetings for us people to ask these questions and help decide let us decide not the mayor and council decide who's going to be on this but we're not going to get in anyway you know that because they brought in people just to speak for them make it look good when they say no they wouldn't allow them i've seen this before no i'll tell you something else is missing big time co-compliance i am so ashamed everybody here no one talks about co-compliance i've been at this for six years there's a man in a wheelchair they're taking his house away from him and they know it's wrong they know it i sent them stuff and they know it and they don't care co-compliance is boring and take it you know what they don't go in the black people area because black people ran them off they come across us white people i need your help co-compliance is taking people's homes handicapped people's home you go to my website you'll see the videos you'll see the proof of it but does anybody ever talk about them never they get a free ride i don't understand that thank you next speaker is james smith good afternoon council my name is james smith i live in district eight for those of you who don't know me i'm the neighbor that we're talking on jefferson i wasn't coming here tonight but i was invited by a speaker that's since left the room and listening to what i'm listening to i'm glad i came i don't profess to be a police officer profess to be the mayor of a city of forward but i do and can have an opinion what happened to my neighbor shouldn't have happened and as i sit here and listen i can give recommendations to this council to the police department that would have prevented my neighbor's death i don't know how you guys are going to vote but you need to take a serious a serious a serious look at what you're about to do i'm 65 years old i know mr sanders nephew deborah his niece deborah sanders and drill centers i went to school with them i know the history of him in haughton city i know this is his his home all we want is fairness in the city of forward i live on the south side of forward and i go to hillside park and it's a fantastic view of hillside park but in my eyes and my mind on the opposite side of downtown forward is peachy king i'm not going to say perfect but it's peachy king the stockyards the cultural district the seven street we're talking about the south side stop six eastward we're talking about what we're having problems everybody's not having the same problem we're having a problem and that's why we're here forward is a great city i've been here 60 some odd years i have you know if it was that bad i'd move out but all we're asking is help us and we can help you that's not a lot to ask that's not a lot to ask you you feel like you're nauseated when people come down here to speak to you guys i have to walk out my front door from now to the lord calls me home and be nauseated by the incident of october 12 2019 you may not vote tonight you shouldn't vote tonight but you should consider this recommendation and vote yes when you do justice for talking to jenna jefferson and justice for every marginalized citizen of forward texas thank you council that's the last of our speakers i'm going to ask chief neil noakes to come to the dais and speak to this item before i turn to council members for their comments neil noakes police chief for police department mayor want to thank you first of all for allowing me to come down and give some comments i also want to thank all of the citizens who either submitted comment cards or who came out tonight to speak because your voices were heard there were people on both sides of this discussion who were here tonight who i respect there are people on both sides of this discussion i love that i consider my brothers and sisters and you will be my brothers and sisters regardless of the turnout of this vote i am committed to working with each and every one of you regardless of the turnout of this vote my commitment to the community will not change i also want to thank you councilmember nettles for bringing the video and playing that before it gives me an opportunity to address that in case there are questions and the video that was played was from the announcement when i became chief january 2021 almost two years ago what i said was it's coming whether we wanted or not and that i wanted to be part of the process my understanding coming in was that was going to happen my understanding was that it was coming quickly here we are two years later during that time it gave me a chance to reach out to other police chiefs it gave me a chance to research the outcomes of other similar boards across the country what i heard was not positive what i heard was that it was not only not positive but detrimental to police community relations in those communities also said i want to be part of the process and after reviewing this and researching this we are not part of the process and i believe we need to be and that is the point i value community input i believe my track record has shown that i value the input of this council i hope my track record has shown that i'm not being dismissive of any community every community in the city of Fort Worth regardless of zip code socioeconomic status i don't care which side you vote for all i care about is that you receive the quality service you deserve dignity with respect from a professional police force what i'm not saying is that we don't come together what i'm not saying is that we're dismissive of any of the concerns of the community what i'm saying is i believe there's another way to do it we have come together so many times with people from every community across fort worth every division we serve what i've found to be the most productive is when we sit down together and talk and i'm talking about hard conversations i'm not talking about just going to communities that love the police department i'm talking about going to communities where there is distrust where we have work to do and sitting down and getting that hard work done none of us are self-sufficient none of us are truly independent we need one another the Fort Worth police department cannot be successful without the community involved also believe the community won't be as successful as they want if the police aren't involved instead of driving a wedge between us i want to break down the walls and bring everyone to the table so all voices are heard collaboration and cooperation it sounds easy but it will take work instead of creating a community that i think will put us at odds with one another let's invite an opportunity that allows us to work together instead of placing us in different silos let's all come to the same table and work together instead of keeping us separate and apart and talking about each other let us come together and talk to each other my hope is i've built enough trust in the community all communities in Fort Worth in the Fort Worth police department and in this council to allow me the opportunity to prove this can work to prove that we can successfully do something different in Fort Worth that could be the standard for other cities to emulate when hired as the chief of the forward police department i agreed with the city manager david cook that we needed to change our culture it needed to be a top priority and innovation and collaboration were key to that effort let's continue that effort we've been working diligently to be better and to collaborate engage with the community and we have made progress i've heard people from communities across the city say as much please don't misunderstand me that we still have work to do but we will do that work i'm asking you please allow me the time that's necessary to turn this ship even the expert panel said and i quote it will take sustained effort over time we have an approved staffing level of over 2,300 total employees and we serve a million people because of the scale of the organization and the communities we serve change won't happen overnight but it is happening i believe i've proven i will hold officers accountable not bragging in any way but just a fact 12 hours ago i fired another the fourth in about two and a half weeks it's not fun work but it is hard work that has to be done we've improved our training we've improved our policies with input from the community and we've included the community in that training process and i might mention that our policies are on our website for all the public and community to see what fear i do have is this could negatively affect the morale of the officers of the forward police department i don't want a message to be sent to them that their city city leaders don't have faith in them to make that culture change happen i've talked to some who were on the policy advisory committee we had before which i'm recommending bringing back some were very optimistic about it some were not so much but everyone agreed it could be improved we want to revise update and improve and improve that committee with community input we will have robust and inclusive representation from the community and quite frankly there are people sitting in this room right now who may not be on the side of this board right now but i hope they will consider sitting on it because there's some solid quality people in here on both sides of the discussion i hope you allow me to prove how much i in the forward police department value community input and community engagement i hope you allow us to get our house in order with the community i will hope i hope you will show you have confidence in the officers of the forward police department and the leadership of the forward police department to continue making good on our promise of true community and police collaboration please allow me to do the job that i was hired to do those are my remarks ma'am thank you chief nox assuming every council member has comments this evening i'm going to start to my right with the council member elizabeth beck and move down the dais i don't miss anybody and if there's any question or dialogue back and forth that's more than fine council member beck i'd like to allow um my colleague chris nuttles to open the conversation i think that's fine i'll come back to you go ahead chris first uh before i start my comments uh let me motion um to approve um this ordinance um with the following amendments change throughout the ordinance change the name of the board to community police review board and to update all the referring to the board to be cpr b that's my motion you have any comments i do have comments do i have a second do i need to give my second i'll second it okay thank you all right so i i want to get my comments i really uh do appreciate everybody being here including the pl a president that's in the back against the wall we appreciate him being here as well uh also i want to recognize other leaders that are here um we have the aphids that are here and we have komo that had some people from komo had to leave uh estrus tucker and bob ray sands we really appreciate all the support of you guys being here on today with this is a strong issue and we have some of our black strong pastors that are here to stand the ground and fight to the end i really appreciate your support being here today i want to respond to a lot of the comments i heard i hate the gentleman left but i maybe he'll he's watching um one of the things we talked about was the election and let me tell you um i for one didn't want to take this vote on election day uh because of a lot of people being involved in what was happened across the county but from day one when i got in this office i worked hard and with the city manager and with our uh city council to get this to a vote we have had several many work sessions i have had one on ones with the chief and spoke with him about it i have had meetings with mayor parker and david cook to push it back push it back because of the trial and so we finally got to a place where we can vote and it wasn't easy and so at this time with the expertise that we have and kim neal been able to answer questions off of the fly we want to take this vote tonight and as one of the person said today i think it's by Ray Sanders that a lot of people minds are made up a lot of people have been paid or been talked to or they figure out whatever they're going to do and so whether we push it back and give this chief all the time that he needs to figure it out the voters they're going to be the same until we get people across this dais that understand and respect not just the west side or the north side or the quiet voices because i guess i'm a loud voice from what the lady said earlier to represent all of the community we won't get the change that we really need i look at the people who were speaking today the ones that were speaking for it black majority of color and whites the ones who spoke against it i didn't see color i just saw white and you would never understand walking in a black man's shoes understand what it feels like to have a target on your back because check the type of hair that you have the type of car that you drive and the type of neighborhood that you live in i for one thank god have not been in jail not been arrested but i have been pulled over driving in my black SUV leaving the p-week football game pulled over on campus drive in front of the old sam's and the officer approached my car and he said you fit the description of a robbery in the neighborhood what is this equipment that's in your back of your truck i said sir i'm a poor pastor and i have a church at the hotel and i take the equipment back and forward so that i can speak and preach to my community took my driver's license looked at my record and had i did something wrong or said something crazy or did it something that i shouldn't have done even though i was in the right i could have been a statistic a black man cared about the police department you don't understand the shoes that i walk in this whole system that we saw tonight was crap the fact that we heard all of the speakers who were for it back to back to back you know darn well that they did not sign up like that and all the speakers that were against it we heard them back to back to back to back this system is corrupt people people who are making deals behind closed doors guys you've been able to see it face to face i never would have allowed that to happen but i'm not a part of those meetings let's talk about equity in policing i look at the word equity in a dictionary let me define it for you young man it is the characteristics of quality and fairness so we want to say we want equity in the city we want to be treated just like you we want to be treated just like the rich and the wealthy we don't want to be treated differently because of the color of our skins and where we live and where we grew up from we want to be treated just like a regular citizen of the united states of america that is what equality is that is what equity is it's in your dictionary innovation let's be innovative do you know what the definition of innovative is i looked it up for you it is the act of doing something new do we have a citizen review board no if we implement it what would it do it would be implementing something new that's what innovation is what you want is the old good old board system and i for one have had enough enough people elected me to get in this office and i'm going to stay on the wall until the walls of jericho come down and forward i'm going to be loud i'm going to speak and i'm going to be firm the purpose of this board is that citizens even the ones that were against it you and i can come to a table and decide and talk amongst each other how we feel that we can better our community the board allows each and every one of us to pick someone on the board to represent our community and our district this board is not going to sway one way or sway the other way just like we had a split vote now let's be honest with it this is an opportunity to bring conversation to the city of forward on a broader level on a broader stance that's what we're asking for is a seat at the table all our life my life we have to fight for that seat i'm trying to give our people an opportunity where they don't have to keep fighting but they can have their voice heard william joy did the article that chief talked about and william joy said it and if you can go look on youtube jane were the 25th 2021 chief nox hopeful of a newly launched outreach program will help minority hiring and seeing the need for a citizen review board and has been in the work since the controversy arrest of jackie crea 2016 this board did not come just out of the whim the fly out of the we just didn't reach for it and just made up something we brought this to play because we seriously have issues in our community that are on the books of footwork chief said the truth of the matter is it's coming well it's here it is here whether we wanted or not and i want to be part of the process and i beg you different you have been a part of the process from day one i have met with you privately and in that work session that work session this last time if red was a color we saw it vigorously angry frustrated about whether we trust you it's not a question if we trust you but you won't be the chief for eternity so we need a system that is in place that would provide not trust but accountability i understand that you met with some of the black pastors and even the mayor met with them maybe if i had an opportunity to pick put people on this board i make and get there i'm willing to make those amendments right now right here on the floor giving you an opportunity that this council gets a pick and you get to select two people in addition to our pigs to be on this board that's amendment i'm willing to make i'm willing to compromise because you know why this is the most watered down community police board that exists in america is because we tried to come to some type of consensus to some type of compromise and even with a board a snag a tube board with no teeth can't bite mashed potatoes if they want to you still cannot support it what i have a problem is talk to david cook about this today is that the chief you are a department head you are the head of the police department just like department tpw just like the parks recreation just like um uh dj's part department they're all department heads and when this new council came to play we hounded david david we don't want your department heads telling us no we want you to work with them and how we can get to a yes david cook has been reported and has been written down in his department head meetings saying to his departments i want to make sure we can get to a yes why in the hell can all these other departments get to a yes but we can't get you to a yes come to the table and let's eat let's talk let's have a conversation let's get to a yes people talked about training and requirements kim neal and i for one and i first encounter it wasn't a good one but over time i got to looking into her work into how she operates and the heart of a person and she has put together a recommendation that requires people to go through training to go through a type of training where they don't just look in the community i say but they look in the lens of a fort word police officer where they do ride alongs that they are that they understand how an officer feels in certain situations we just approve a budget where they can get innovative things they put on their head and have a virtual experience these people that sit on this board will be able to go through that training so no sir it is not a board to defund the police it's a board to make accountability of the police i know my colleagues are getting tired but i have a community front line we appreciate your work they put together a police survey result they did they did it back in 21 because one of my colleagues told me that people in their district love the police they want more of them versus people in other districts i want to go to a couple of questions question one it says does fort word have an adequate training people in district two 60 percent said no people in district four 75 percent said no people in district seven 100 percent said no the next question was do you believe that the fort word police has a culture of bias and discrimination district two 100 percent people said yes district four 75 percent said yes district seven 71 percent said yes and district nine 100 percent say yes don't tell if you had an opportunity can you provide this for them question number three does race play a role in how the fort word police interact with the community district two 100 percent said yes district four 87.5 said yes district seven 85.71 percent said yes and district nine 100 percent said yes now watch this one does the fort does fort word need a police department district eight 100 people say yes so i don't think nobody in this city is arguing the fact if we want to defund the police get rid of the police shut the police department down burn it with fire no sir we are saying we want police but we want the right type of police we want accountability police we want police who respect and honor all citizens and why i appreciate that you hang the hat on that you fire four officers within the last two weeks the reality of it you probably should have fired 400 because when you look at the g file that none of y'all have access to not even me to be honest the incidents that the forward that the expert panel talked about and rolled out and articulated there are people in our leadership staff on the police department who does not hand down the correct and the vital type of punishment and what happens is when you do not punish a child for doing something wrong it only gets worse by the day and no i'm not calling them a children but i'm using that as a metaphor to understand that when a child gets away with certain things they will keep on doing it and it will get worse and worse and worse by the day by the second i appreciate well no i respect the people i work with and i'm gonna say this and this is not a shot but i want want you to hear me carlos we we as a community as a black people we supported the sp4 vote i remember very visible uh visibly i stood right there at that sign and we waited hours and hours we didn't speak we just came to support to one o'clock in the morning when the hispanic community fought for the sp4 and you did not have to vote on this council but if you brought that back you would have the votes today we have supported the 287 g at the taren county level we supported activating and establishing a second latino hispanic seat at this council we have worked hard for our latino and hispanic community and all i'm asking today is that the black community is asking for you to support us we are the ones who have been marginalized in this community we are the ones who look at the news and read the newspaper and say that could have been me that could have been my son that could have been my sister died in that house that's what i wake up with this is not a vote alan for me this is personal my heart has been heavy all day because my community elected me to come to this council to fight for them and if this vote goes down as known i have let our community down because we have not got to a consensus here and i'm asking for you people at this dais to see things in a black perspective a lot of you who have been elected you can read numbers just as well as i can and the majority of this next election you'll probably get reelected with hands down you don't have to take money from organizations that try to tell you what to do if you vote no to this today to me it says you do not support the community of color it does it says to me that you don't support the black and the brown community that undoubtedly has a target on their back it says to me that you rather support the poa than the community it says to me that you don't believe that there is a true racial this a true racial issue in the city of forward it is clear on its face that we have a problem and talking about it is not fixing it we have to be about it saying to saying no tonight is a clear message that you do not support the atatiana family jackie crick family shone up to galas and going to come operate does not give you the ability to say you represent black folks and you care about them that you want to be a part of that community voting for this means you should say yes if that is true i made in my business to be a counselor person for all people and it looks like i have to represent black folks in seven three four and everywhere else it shouldn't be like that when we came to this council over 16 months ago the mayor and the council had this atmosphere of let's get to a consensus let's not be a divided council where is the consensus that today where is that same consistent consensus of when we voted on the the the changing of the lines where is that today you know why it's not here because what you see tonight is r versus d republicans versus democrats people who care and people who don't i had my time you had your time to speak and ask my time to speak we will have order in the trunk in the chambers i gotta have i gotta i gotta have order i gotta have order i gotta have order mic you gotta have order let's let him finish we gotta have order we gotta have order i'm talking to my council and we have i have listened mic you gotta have order please just let him finish and we'll keep going go ahead chris i have said on numerous occasions that support the police department but we want accountability and today that is what this vote is about that is why we have brought it up and i understand what hurts the most is truth and that's what you have heard today thank you it's not easy taking something that you know might not pass um but i appreciate your conviction and i appreciate your words tonight so i got up real early this morning earlier than i normally get up because this has been on my heart and what has been on my heart is that i am angry and there are things that i want to say on this dais to people sitting on this dais with me uh that quite frankly aren't appropriate for this dais because i'm disappointed i don't know what it's like to be brown or black but i know what it's like to accept someone when they tell me their truth and i know that our city didn't have a problem but still has a problem that we're wrestling with and i think that's real evident by what you've heard tonight uh not just from my colleague but from all of the all of you who came here tonight to speak your piece whether it be for or against it what was very clear to me in this room is that there is without question still a divide in our city the race and culture task force was a response to jackie craig but it was not a response to just jackie craig just jackie craig did not happen in a vacuum we did not decide that we were going to spend almost two years and thousands of hours whether it be staff time or community support uh to undertake this because of one police incident that went wrong it was the result of systemic issues in this city and the race and culture task force did not say we're going to look at policing and we are going to fix policing in fort worth the race and culture task force looked at everything because the best disinfectant is sunshine and that was the goal of this task force was to be the sunshine that the city needed and it is our job to make sure that we're applying that disinfectant that we're opening up those cartons and that we're letting the sunshine in I respect the work of that task force and I respect the work of the people that put their time and their efforts into it and they gave us recommendations and one of the recommendations that was loud and clear was that they wanted more oversight that there were members of this community that did not have trust in our police department and that one of the ways that we get there is through oversight through transparency through accountability in the same way that we have a code of ethics in the same way that you look at council in the same way that we audit other departments people of Fort Worth particularly historically marginalized communities and do be specific when we are talking about historically marginalized communities we are talking about black and brown people in this city have said that our voices are not at the table there's been a lot of discussion tonight about who was excluded from the list of people that can serve on this committee and how their voices were being excluded and I think that lacks the perspective of being one of those marginalized community members that tried to get to the table that fought to get to the table and still couldn't get there we heard a lot about it in redistricting and about what opportunity meant people have fought for opportunity this board is an opportunity and should be seen as such oversight is Kim Neal and her office's job and I think she does a fine job of doing that but to make sure that we're doing the work that we need to do to repair our community we have to take what the marginalized communities tell us as their reality at face value we don't get to replace it for them standing up this board takes life experience at face value and it says we hear you and we see you and we will actively work to right the wrongs of our community and I want to say that I think that our police department has come a long way but we still have miles and miles to go and that takes work and that takes trust and that takes the community and this is a really great opportunity to start that path I appreciate the work that's already been done and I think we can see that in the way our ccpd budget has been changed and funded but we know that we're not done we got an expert panel report that said we still have a lot of work to go we have a police oversight monitor that has recommended that we establish this board and so to me I will be supporting you in this vote chris and everyone in this room that I'm looking at that asked me and my colleagues to take their personal experience at face value to believe them and I would strongly urge my colleagues to do the same this isn't about what everyone wants and I've heard that a lot that well not everybody wants it and you're right not everybody wanted me I got a little over 60 of my vote not everybody wanted chris not everybody wanted linard or jared or matty or jena or allen or michael or carlos not everybody wanted us but we're still sitting here not the entire the whole city didn't want a 50 meter lap lanes about 100 residents got together and got loud and we found 3.5 million dollars in the budget to give them that you had a couple fussy constituents been the air ear of some folks on this dais some wealthy white women and now we're talking about what we can do to to change aquatic plans because but we didn't say I trust richards avala and his aquatics plan we gave in we said well maybe we should have that conversation that took one person so how many people does it take how many people of color does it take for us to listen and for me that threshold has been met thank you councilor firestone thank you mayor i'll just be fairly brief here and cover a couple things but you know i think i was worried honestly that the work of opum was would not be recognized in as significant ways i think it has ended up coming up tonight because i i do think ultimately the work of the office of police oversight monitor and this oversight committee that we're talking about is very redundant at its core it's redundant and you know you just look at the ordinance you look at the website of the oversight monitor where their stated mission is our vision is for the office for the office is for it to be a proactive leader in law enforcement and accountability to the fort worth police department and the population it serves and the the tenants of that are review policies and procedures monitor contacts and complaint investigations oversight and accountability community engagement and again i won't go through it all this evening but i would encourage people to go to their website and see the detail of the progress that they've made with the police force and the change agent that they've become with the fort worth police department in our community they have been a change agent for the better for the better and again their successes are listed on the website in there i think their annual report so i think those accomplishments really do clearly evidence that the work that we're talking about this evening with this committee again is duplicative the opom has worked very well under kim neal's leadership she's extraordinary and i think it's critical that we find a strong leader to fill her shoes which will be difficult but somebody that's going to continue to do that work additionally i mentioned it last week and i do think it's an important point again to recognize because it again it's significant and acts as a change agent for the better and i think it's the in the monies that we've dedicated for this coming year's budget which all in specifically in things that we are doing as a city and city leadership and as a police department to improve things as best we can we're dedicating about 32 million dollars to that project or to this effort ccpd is getting about 10 million dollars for 43 programs there's about 4.4 million dollars from arpa dedicated specifically to grassroots organizations and working with those people in the communities and neighborhoods that will have the most impact in those areas and giving them the dollars to be successful we have about more than a half a million in community relations 15 million to support our neighborhood patrol program and those officers one and a half million to the civilian response unit and about 230 in community information program 1.3 million to the code blue program you know my point would be that if we look back at the tail of the tape from the race and culture task force to opum to the the dollars that we're dedicating to the to the these real needs that we recognize absolutely and no one would debate that is that there's a culture change going on in Fort Worth there's a culture change going on at the police department all for the better all in transparency and creating accountability for everyone and when there's a problem as the chief said they act he clearly acts quickly and I think that can't that can't be ignored so I think it's about culture it's about a change agent and having city leadership police leadership that are encouraging and wanting a change agent and that's what we're experience experiencing and that's happened over the last dramatically so over the last three four four years it wasn't always that way for sure everyone's going to recognize that but we are addressing problems now when we are the leadership that can insert ourselves in that process so just a couple other quick things you know the vast majority of of the district's seven constituents that I've talked into we've heard from their the the consensus that I'm getting is in their belief is that by effectively placing an observer on the backs of our officers and an observer whose mission is in fact to find fault that will put our officers at risk and consequently our citizens at risk I think it's the safety of all will be at risk because of the causation we're going to create here right so put simply for fear of retribution officers may not act that's a scary thing to think about and it's it certainly makes our community less safe and and you know we can't we can't ignore the fact that there are unfortunately many cities around the country that have have recently experienced this reality those policies have created less safe cities what does that do obviously it influences crime it it influences quality of life and ultimately it leads to the demise of a city from an economic economic development and business standpoint so you know the last thing I want to mention is because it's come up a number of times is this issue about accountability and I think it's again important to note that one of the core tenants of this contemplated committee is just that accountability so it needs to be stated that there are multiple layers of accountability in around the police department it's department management it's the deplete police department website you can file an anonymous complaint you have internal fares you have command staff ultimately you have chief nooks of course there's open and of course everyone on this dais is equally accountable we we by definition are accountable for those that were managing so you know at the end of the day here you know to be frank I agree with miss opal Lee the chief is doing a good job and he deserves a chance to write the ship I think that's pretty dramatic from what an iconic person in the in the community so in considering all these aspects through the lens of public safety safety and proactive city leadership for the benefit of all our citizens I think this ordinance will do more harm than good and that's why I cannot support it thank you Dr. Williams thank you mayor first I just want to talk to my classmate and brother councilman nettles thank you for the work on this there was many times you tried to get this on the agenda for the past year and a half and you were patient and you tried to work with us as a council I meant when staff and so we're here and thank you for your work and I gave the second because I support this whole hardly section 15 of our charter says power to appoint boards or commissions of citizens the city council may at the request of the city manager or upon their own motion appoint boards or commissions to be composed of such number of citizens as the council may deem expedient to act in an advisory capacity in conjunction with anyone or more of the departments created or authorized here by the reason that this board is exclusively for residents is because we wanted to create a table for residents to be able to give their voice in an advisory nature to multiple departments including the police department opom I mean even our legal department in my neighborhood and the neighborhoods in district six I talked to thousands of folks and oftentimes I like to walk door to door to do that and what I hear reminds me especially when we talk about public safety as a district of a table that's sitting in my house when I was growing up in southwest Fort Worth my mom who was a second grade teacher my dad who is a black pastor had a dining room table and we never had a dining room big enough for us to put the leaf in the middle of the table and my mom and my black household she would yell at me for sitting at that table because it was meant for the china and anytime y'all get that later and very rarely will we sit at the table that table at least but for Thanksgiving Christmas Easter Mother's Day and Father's Day and occasionally somebody's birthday not everybody's um but what that leaf reminded me of is that our work as a city as your leaders as your representatives is about extending the table for more people to give input the thousands of doors that I knocked yes you absolutely right we support our police chief we this council voted unanimously on the largest budget that PD was ever given in the history of the city of Fort Worth regardless to what the mailer said and you know why because we need the police in our city it's a crucial service of the city and the thousands of doors that I knocked and got to talk with neighbors I was just in the neighborhood knocking for the arbor family so that we can get a memorial and a risinger to honor the arbor family and you know who was on the first non-scene MPO officer Hayes late at night and yet when I talk to my neighbors they say we want to say and we want to sit at the table and that's what this ordinance does the reason this provision is in this charter is because our neighborhoods deserve a say DJ he's the director of development services there's a zoning commission board my zoning commissioner dr. Mia Hall does the very best she can and yet we're not required to make sure that she can work in the development support services department Richard Savala has a parks advisory board and residents get a seat at that table and so we are operating within the authority that the charter has given us that has been approved by the voters of Fort Worth and the reason this provision is in there is because the residents of Fort Worth want a say in the services that are delivered to the city and I will always support our residents having to say a hundred percent this vote isn't about my trust for chief we give that the real way we just worked on a six million dollar youth gun violence initiative to address and prevent youth gun violence countywide this vote is about will we give our residents a say and I emphatically say yes I want to say good evening to all of you who are here today and Bob Ray even though Lily's not here I've been getting her text and for those of you who don't know who Lily is it's Lily Biggins the former housekeeper at JPS who became the president at Harris hospital downtown and that's because a guy named Doug Hawthorne the CEO of Texas health resources supported diversity he made a commitment that he wanted his hospitals to reflect the communities that they served Chris you took me back when you mentioned SB 4 I was on this council I voted for SB 4 I knew it was a losing vote but I always stand for my convictions and for those of you who don't follow things regularly you'll know from last week my conviction was to support this ordinance I have not wavered Dr. Bell I want to thank you for inviting me to participate in that Saturday call and allowing me to leave early because I had to go to the evil city to the east but you had me on there and I want to say thank you and I think more people who don't really talk to me found out some things about me that they didn't know Miss Young Pamela not only do I still thank you for having me at the 100 year old aunt grandmother celebration but thank you for inviting me to participate in that zoom call and I got a chance to meet the young lady next to you and it's good to see somebody as short as me I want to tell you all one more thing and then I'll get into my remarks there are three men who may be here tonight if I call your names and you hear I want you to stand one is DJ Harold DJ here stand up one is Reginald Zeno words William William Johnson what you all don't know is when I came to this council and we hired David Cook twice a year I would ask him to give me a report on the top three positions in every department and the reason why is because I was driving for diversity and I knew if I got that director the assistant director and that top manager we would see diversity these three men hold very high positions with the city of Fort Worth and we've never had that many at the same time thank you for standing you can have a seat diversity is very important that's how I make my living taking a look at diversity as mayor pro tem I know that I was one of the first David Cook notified that Kim Neil had tendered her resignation Kim when you when you told me I couldn't tell you I already knew but I did but personnel matters are supposed to be confidential but the very first question I asked David and David you remember this I asked you when is she leaving and when he told me my next comment was we got to get this vote done got to get the vote in before Kim leaves because we would lose intellectual property in depth and at that table last week that was proven when one of my colleagues posed a question about the standards that we were putting in this ordinance but for Kim's presence we could have been delayed even more because she knew and told us well that's really not required in boards and commissions and so thank you for being there now what has really gotten me confused and oh Pat I forgot Pastor Bell thank you for the one ten or one 11 a.m. talk this morning because I was in a bad kind of way as well but what what has gotten me confused this chief is so popular he has another group of black clergy who are advocating for delaying or not even doing this and that that shows that the African American community is not just one big way of thinking but what you need to know is one thing we all know is that disparities remain when I make a call to my baby brother and I don't get him I worry I worry I have worries that nobody has unless you're a person of color because my my baby brother has a history and if anything happens and someone with the history gets stopped it can go downhill very quickly and so those those are issues that that that bother me now one thing you need to know is we we knew last week that this would not pass but one thing all of my colleagues will tell you is I don't fall out with them because they don't vote the way I vote you know I live to work another day we're just trying to get around the table and get some ideas that we can bring people together one thing that happened to me today I introduced former congressman Pete Guerin to the is it called the Baptist ministers union pastor bell okay I introduced Pete to that group because he's talking about education reading and how children all over the city are not reading at great level but they don't know it the parents don't know that things are not good because the kids keep getting promoted and so before we were able to really talk one of the ministers of that group pulled me to the side to tell me why he was supporting that we not approve this tonight and so one reason why was because he felt chief nox needed to have a right to appoint who he wanted on that board before I could respond another pastor there who had been a former city department had a long time ago said well no it doesn't work that way and so what we have are people crossing over from political engagement into governance and if you don't understand the difference you can you can think you understand something and you really don't and so luckily this former department had said well man you got to understand if if this body goes through and it's created the chief will have presence at every meeting they have he will probably staff it and so the response was from that pastor oh I didn't know that the next conversation led to basically why it's needed and I reminded him for nearly two years two years bob ray nitty biggins rabbi bloom probably tim would I don't remember everybody but the race and culture task force met for nearly two years and that whether people know it or not was who was who was really working feverishly to make that happen and I loved her from then for it was our mayor because she saw the need so they met and what people may not really know if you didn't follow it from there another group was formed and that group came up with the idea of how this committee would function and so back to the preachers today the idea that the chief wouldn't have a voice really bothered one of these pastors and you know we explained to him well every board and commission that the city has is staffed by a department head and there was no need to make any kind of changes in the way we operate but there would be a voice there would be presence what I would tell you is the rub in this for many people people of color I'll be just point blank is the fact that all along we including me really thought this board this commission this committee whatever you want to call it we thought this was really going to happen because we always heard from the people on that board I mean people very conservative people you know asking when are you going to do this and all of a sudden to have the rug pulled out it just takes you back to a place where it's just not a real good safe place but you know people will overcome people who come from communities that are not totally respected uplifted are brilliantly resilient but that's because we have to be it's not not because you enjoy always the fight but no matter what the outcome is tonight yeah I'm going to still work with my colleagues I encourage all of us to continue working together but you need to know this this wasn't it it wasn't right wasn't right and so the text from Lily tonight is it makes no sense for this not to pass but I tell myself well here we are and here we are Fort Worth once again so I salute those of you who are here tonight glad to see you glad for those of you who remained some people left in a huff but you know Fort Worth will get through it but the right thing to do is in front of you and again boats aren't there but it's the right thing to do my opinion those are my remarks thank you lots been said this evening we've been here quite a while I want to thank everybody that came and spoke tonight everyone obviously very passionate and cares about this issue it's obvious that we have a lot of healing to do still that there's a lot of pain and we have to find ways forward I sincerely hope we get there chief I want to thank you for your words today and your willingness to work on this issue Kim I want to thank you for everything you've done you've been incredible for this city and I hate seeing you go Chris you've been a profile encourage this evening I have incredible respect for you for me I want to see healing I want to see things get better I want to see everyone at the table I don't agree with this structure for the table that doesn't mean we can't get there but that's where I am right now and I want to thank you all and I want to hope that we continue to work together as a city to make this better Michael thanks mayor I'm gonna try and be brief and try and be coherent but I'm tired I know y'all are tired too and as some of y'all are tired for far longer than than just this meeting and I recognize that but this process has just been clunky I made some notes here there's been no general consensus even from speakers etc what we've heard of what it should look like this has been rushed it's been hurried in my opinion in a lot of different ways even though I know people have said we've been waiting a long time but in this process that's no way to make policy and so Kim I want to say thank you to you what you brought to the city of Fort Worth you've done yeoman's work by taking lots of voices and opinions and trying to come to something and again and again I asked you over the meetings that we've had and calls that we've had are you not getting what you need to make sure that we're moving our policy forward for all of our citizens and again and again you've said I'm getting what I need etc and I've made a commitment if you weren't then let's talk and see how it can help I'm sorry to be losing you I know you're excited to be moving back or moving home but I'll say this period right now without leadership with you makes it even more difficult because I know that what happens next is people like when are we going to do something when we're going to do something and we've still got a process to hire a new police monitor so I think the timing is a little off as Mayor Pro Tem talked about as well we keep talking about the table and coming to the table and of course it really hurts my heart when you say my vote is whether I support or not support communities of color because I think you know where my heart is we spend enough time together but what I do believe in is the city overall and I'm proud of Fort Worth sometimes that we don't jump out and do the first thing every other city does that we take somewhat of a measured approach and what I heard tonight on a lot of different ways is the time that it that we might need and give the the chief a little bit of time chief come I have a question for you actually do you mind coming down here really quickly I won't belabor this but and I'll ask it as you're walking up I know back in 2019 the and I had a conversation with someone's on it the advisory committee that you had was disbanded it was after Chief Fitzgerald left Krauss etc but is in your intent in your is it your intention to reconstitute that board is it will you take suggestions from us or how will that process sort of work that no one's that wants a voice at that table is left out of the table when I'm say collaboration any collaboration from everyone including everyone at this dais and every community we serve in Fort Worth it'll be a long process to get all the voices involved that we we plan on doing the best we can to make it happen as quickly as possible I mean you've heard from a lot of voices here tonight there's been a lot of talk about this so I am putting some belief in you because I believe in you and our our our police department that you bring those voices to the table you take the recommendations from us of people that we want to see there people a lot of them in the audience and that collaboration and that and sort of working together and so with that that's where I am with this is that I want to give you that opportunity to bring all those together and work together to make our city better thank you council member thank you thank dr. Williams may have a question yeah chief nox chief one second and dj can you come down for a second sorry to put you on the spot yes sir dj I trust you a thousand percent if this council decided to make the zoning commission under your purview as an advisory committee which you support that recommendation did you have any other comments michael okay carlos thank you mayor I want to say thank you to everyone that stuck with us this long evening on a very important and factual topic this consumed me and I know probably several of our council members here's time not just recently but over time as well needless to say our city is growing in size changing in diversity and in a changing environment so does our police department have to adapt have I seen evidence of that yes I've seen some positive indicators as an example a recruiting efforts to recruit more diverse recruits to reflect respond and relate to all residents why do we do that not just a check a box but to increase public trust specialized training like de-escalation civilian response units are among some the recent changes you know that have been implemented in response not a reaction in response to community needs you know chris what you said you know resonated with me yes I have never walked in your shoes you have never walked in mine but you and I have walked some similar paths I've never said this publicly but I have shared this with you chief notes that when I was a teenager you know I was profound harassed by a forward police officer not an enjoyable experience completely unfair now what did I do with that experience me personally I didn't let it define me in a negative way I live my life not under that lens but under my terms that was my takeaway from it looking back as the department improved yes do we have work to do absolutely and that's evidenced by the expert panel report that we receive you know commissioned by the city we have much ground to cover still chief notes has acknowledged that during you know our questions to him and work sessions necessary changes happening and that was another takeaway from these experts it is happening it's been said before we've established the office of police oversight and monitor there's a city we continue to do this because disparities exist we live in an imperfect world people it'll never be perfect all we can do is strive to improve it kim neal you know and not to her has done a lot of good work has been said I regret that you're leaving and going back home to baltimore I think it needs to be said too why because you have been offered an opportunity to go home and I respect that but why because they want you over there to establish what you've established here and that's a testament to the effectiveness of what office you created here as a written this proposal for community police policy advisory board is it's currently named needs more work and more time in my opinion to be clear my support having increased accountability transparency oversight civilian advisory review input all that again this is an imperfect ordinance as written and in my opinion it was rushed into consideration because of some urgency here I'm not saying that urgency was misplaced all I'm saying is the process was hurried I can back that up by saying in my outreach which just did not occur recently to members of my district residents organizations of neighborhoods faith-based leaders the majority didn't even know what was going on that troubled me unaware I don't expect people to know every single agenda item on you know in front of us every given week but this is an important one and as such it bothered me that they didn't know and I spent the greater amount of time once I began to discover this explaining to them what was going on what was being considered it's important to engage people it's important that they know what their city government is doing no one can do it for them engagement is hard no matter how you set it up it's incumbent upon us to remain engaged many of you here that are still with us tonight is a testament unto itself that you are engaged you choose to be involved and I respect that I've spoken to members of the racing culture task force former members also the mutual accountability work group I don't make decisions in a vacuum those that know me know that those that don't ask someone who knows me it is critical for us to get this right and not rush into it I realize that there is some sense of urgency because Kim is leaving well I'm cognizant of that I don't want a bad product being produced in my district I have a historical African American community they're part of district two but beyond that many of them are lifelong friends why we grew up together the course of time living in the same area you know has bound it has bound us so I can appreciate part of their experience and I hope they can appreciate part of mine as a leader of this department Neil notes does not merely give orders and expect they be followed I mean there is that expectation but what is born of people abiding by what he says is respect if he doesn't command respect no one's going to pay any attention to his authority at least their minimum not just according to my you know opinion but he has provided leadership he has set the example and tone that we need and as I said before and I'll repeat it hopefully he said it best chief notes needs the opportunity to clean his house and we all acknowledge that there is cleaning needed I have observed and you can go to my council page when an officer is disciplined when an officer is terminated I post it I want people to know that there is internal accountability why is that important accountability is not something that is just exerted on a system or a body that's not lasting you have to have internal accountability enter and out so wrap up you know my comments I think this ordinance is not ready there are provisions of it that I'm not even sure adequately address or serve what collectively we would like to see I can give just sitting here on the dais a read and and make I don't know if this would wind up being a substitute motion you know I would to start with remove two-thirds vote of the council that requirement to remove a member of this CPP AB why is that important we are the duly elected officials we are representative form of government we're put in this place to represent you to represent as many folks as we can practically we are not going to get everyone on board with every single action we do impossible I would allow the participation of current law enforcement officers of any jurisdiction former and current and saying guanuti and affinity also permitted why members of our community to not just mere subject matter experts members of our community I am torn on the felony prescriptions as written I can see it both ways again sitting up here in the dice is not ideal bottom line my substitute motion would be to to make this right you have to revisit it and not just sitting up here those are my comments so for clarity's sake Carlos do you have an alternative motion on the floor I did understand the two things you were referring to on the two-thirds vote and allowing participation of police officers and family members you know I listed three mayor the third was felonies but I didn't get removed the felony prescriptions as written so you would not want someone to be allowed to serve if they have a felony on their record it's yeah so as written is okay with you just to be clear no no in the copy that I've received I see it unless maybe I'm not looking at the most current copy so I'll have I'll have leon speak to that in just a minute but are you proposing alternative motion to what chris has on the floor removing language from the current proposal right now in my read as I sit here those are things that come out at me okay alternative motion is this needs more time it needs to be revisited but if if there is and what I'm reading here is a desire to push this through then I would put those things on there those three things I did so the key thing here is do you want a motion to continue and with the caveat that these things would be considered in a continuance are you making a motion for these items to be removed from the current ordinance I'm making a motion to have those items removed okay I think chris had also had a question go ahead chris go ahead chris okay can I well I do have something to say I got asked two questions but I'm trying to get understanding on what just happened I think he's got an alternative motion on the floor which will go we'll have legal draft something in a second to make that more clear however okay it's the two-thirds vote removal would be taken out of the ordinance and the second piece would you would we would allow police participation officers of families to be able to participate police are police officer families or both yes or both so in other words there's not an exclusion current and former allow them to serve okay okay including family okay let me ask the question while lico is working on it uh I'm sorry Kim nil would you please come we have heard so much about you tonight and I think people need to be able to see you and while she's coming I want to um David ask me not to do this but this is a different question so Dave I got a question for you it's my check okay um David Cook um in in hiring uh Kim nil and uh as the officer monitor uh in serving this role is she considered as an expert uh over this oversight she's one of the experts in the entire country yes I'm sorry I'm saying she's an expert I would put her in the expert category in the entire country so yes we recruited her nationally thank you David so we consider her as an expert nationally not citywide national um we heard a couple things several things tonight and I've got a few questions for you one we heard the word rushed can you briefly tell us how long have you been working with the previous council new council and the working group how much work have you put into this working March of 2020 been working since day one we had several community groups that came to the mayor and to the council and put forth proposals as it related to a civilian review board um and so we have been talking about it since that time in December of 2020 we came to council after a conversation with the police department a collaboration with the police department um of which we recognized that the police advisory group had been postponed as of summer of 2019 and I worked with the then chief and one of the assistant chiefs to look at taking that same concept and basically moving it to the community side well where the council or whomever the work group chose which the work group ultimately chose the council would choose community members to sit on that advisory group so it was always a collaboration with police and the law department to move this forward so that was December 2020 that group started meeting that the first meeting was December 31st New Year's Eve and we met continuously for seven eight months to come up with the proposal in 21 which I brought to the council in September 21 so it's been the same proposal that entire time okay so you didn't go to sleep one night wake up and say we should have well let me ask this question what is your recommendation for this council should it establish a citizens review board so the first thing I want to say is that the proposal was one that was done by the work group right and the work group was composed of community members I didn't want it to be my office they proposed it the police department that proposed it the law department that proposed it we were all at the table as subject matter experts but it was the community group the working group we called it the mutual accountability working group that proposed this now what I've heard from community members overwhelmingly and particularly from our marginalized communities is that they are happy with our office but they want a community group review board because they feel like we are still working for the government and so they feel like this community group will represent the citizens concerns more and I won't say more objectively but they will hear hear the citizens because they actually live in those communities in which those citizens are coming from and so I think that's a valid request I think that we continue to make recommendations to the police department as it relates to policies and procedures but the community group can definitely accent the process they can allow community members to feel like they have even another voice through this group and also we always talk about it in a negative sense this community group can also be a voice for the police as it relates to policies and procedures of the police department so if for example and I use this example and I've used this example with several of you when we had the unfortunate death of Mr. George Floyd the concern across the country was about duty of intervene and whether Fort Worth police department had that policy on the books and many people didn't know if it did or not and so of course Fort Worth police did have that policy on the books and so we spent an enormous amount of time doing community engagements throughout Fort Worth talking about what happened but also informant community of that policy well I think it would be great to have this group that would look at that type of policy and be able to say they could also make recommendations but be able to say to the communities that they represent the Fort Worth police department has great policies as it relates to intervening so we look at it you know so many times people look at it as a negative light but it's absolutely could be a positive light and it could help bridge that gap that some of our marginalized communities have with the police department thank you you said that so adequately and I want to say that I heard you say that it just wasn't your idea alone it was a consensus between the departments and the working group who are made up of the city as a whole not just black folks not just it was a group of people it was a diverse group it was a diverse group absolutely and so this board being established if we take the Jefferson and it being a wellness check and if we look on the books of how we our general order of how we treat wellness checks as police officers this board can look and say if we if we have a policy or if we don't have a policy we can create a policy that basically says if you come out on a wellness check that you go to the front door you knock you announce yourself you call your supervisor before you enter the property on the wellness check can this type of board recommend that type of policy to be in place yes it absolutely could recommend that policy to the police department but the idea is that it's still collaborative correct right so it's not it's the board but also the police uh law department our department would be their subject matter experts to assist this board with with what they need as it relates to information um so it's a collaboration it's not just this group against the board and I you know I know that before our office was created a lot of people thought that our office will be adversarial also it's not civilian oversight is not meant to be adversarial now I know folks talk about different forms of civilian oversight and then some cities chiefs feel that they're adversarial but that's because there's different forms of civilian oversight and this one is an advisory group um there are uh some civilian oversight boards that are regulatory they have commissioners the police chief reports to those commissioners that's not this type of board that's going to be an adversarial relationship and so this board is meant to collaborate with the police department as we move forward because everybody has should have a say about the process and about the equitable treatment of community members across the city of Fort Worth I heard you say that this board will have the opportunity to hear from experts and so they just won't just be making decision off opinion wow I wish you not leave go ahead thank you thank you okay the the question I have for you pertains to that you call it the working group is that yes it's called okay yes who was or is on that working group and is it still active no who was on it yeah once we finalized the proposal the working group was finished with the working group um of course some of the members are here tonight so it was uh united fort worth or TCCO TCCO I've sometimes I missed the extra C um NAACP uh LULAC uh Hispanic Women's Network uh a member of the LGBTQ community perspective was represented and Escherstucker served as our moderator was anybody from the police department there yes oh I'm sorry and also Dr. Cedric Belcher from the faith based community the police department was there both an assistant chief a deputy chief as well as their policy guru the person who runs their policy department in the police department and she's a civilian she's not a sworn officer but she was there as well and then we also had legal at the time it was Sarah as our city attorney as well as Leticia and myself representing the police monitor's office was there any opposition to this ordinance from anybody on that group well the ordinance wasn't there wasn't created yet because they were coming up with the recommendation so what we did was under the guidance of Mr. Tucker we are we did the consensus building exercise and we reached consensus on the various issues that you see in the ordinance some things have been placed in there by legal as a result of the ordinances that have been created in the past for other boards to make the language consistent but as it relates to the membership as it relates to who appoints as related to the name those things were were reached through consensus building by the work group final question to you the ordinance before us developed by consensus from that working group you're telling us that there was no opposition to what you now see as the final product is that what you're telling yes there was no opposition there are some things that some members wanted to also include as a part of recommendation for example one of the things I pointed out in the presentation is council was the idea of whether a person could have a felony or not and what type of felony and so the working group couldn't come to a consensus on that it wasn't that they felt one way or the other about it it was that they couldn't come to a consensus so that was one of the things that they thought that the council could work out because we just could reach consensus on that my closing commentary on that and thank you is I told the body last week that I felt this could be a template that we could take around the nation to show because of the way Fort Worth does things and because of the efforts that this chief has demonstrated toward embracing diversity I see it as something that could work and now even though Carlos made that substitute motion we don't know who's going for both for it and who's not but I'm thankful because it does Carlos I'm talking about you it does open the door for this kind of conversation and so thank you to my colleague for bringing that up and Chris thank you for bringing Ms. Neil Ms. departing Neil to the podium and it has reached national news it has already been posted across this country by the various civilian oversight agencies so they are watching thank you Dr. Williams you had a question yeah I want to call Kim thank you so much that was really helpful DJ I want to call him back to clarify the record before we keep moving forward and thank you Carlos for facilitating the dialogue with your amendments DJ while you're walking down I'll clarify that question the reason I'm asking it is just for process but the question was if the council decommissioned the zoning commission for the sake of allowing that commission to exist as an advisory committee under your department would you be supportive of that recommendation no sir and I apologize for misunderstanding the question earlier yes sir would you explain a little bit why from your expertise and there's a reason for this I want to get us out of the context of this advisory board and put us in a different context of a similar board right so the planning and zoning commission are both advisory boards to city council right and my department and my staff act as also advisors to city council and secretaries for those boards in order to facilitate you guys making an ultimate zoning or policy decision and so that's the way you know it works in most cities right thank you for that I think that's important context and I'll leave it at that but it's important to know the difference between committees and advisory bodies to the council ultimately we're responsible for holding the city manager accountable in the city governance structure which ultimately holds the police accountable and accountability is not bad I don't I get held account of what the tarnary food bank every day and I love it because it makes me better I mean I think our city staff we have a culture of you know calling each other in and out in a loving way to make sure that our city is getting better at delivering services so thank you DJ for clarifying that Carl's did you have something go ahead I think I understand what you're saying councilmember Williams the difference which obviously between zoning and this is that there's a lot of statutory requirements around the zoning commission and this is something that you all are creating on your own action yeah so it's a little bit different it it definitely is and so as parts advisor there's definitely nuances to it but at the core it still fulfills section 15 of the charter which says that the council has an authority to authorize boards and commissions that advise them on core city functions all right and I appreciate the comments being said here you know can I appreciate that too what I was referring to when I was saying that the product in front of us was not presented as a completed product you know that's the reference from the point of time that we started seeing it what troubles me again and I'll repeat it is that even though I know that there were efforts tried to do outreach in the community through the survey link and I posted that link on my council page again not many people knew about it right those who participated that's good but when I get and again the majority of people in my district not knowing about it that troubles me and I'm going to go back to my comment about not enough time that's at the that's at the center you know of my concern right now you know right now you know we're having a discussion on the dais there were amendments proposed to us as recent as this weekend some of which I just found out about but there's this today we had no work session so there was no opportunity to talk about it as a council procedurally that bothers me well that said I don't know if I need to go back Leanne maybe I'll need your legal advice to clarify what it is I'm saying because I'm pointing out two things here right well I am willing to look at this document and look at it piece by piece and see if there are changes that can be made that this council could consider I'm reluctant to do this sitting up on the dais we're having an active conversation okay now procedurally and I'm not an attorney tell me do I need to offer clarification on you know my substitute motion because I was making observations I was asked well is that a substitute motion I try to put it to words so to clarify that what do I need to do so we wrote down on your substitute motion that you wanted to remove the two third vote requirement for removal of the members so I think the clarification that we would need for that one is do you want to then change it to have the members serve at the pleasure of council or do you simply want it to be a majority vote to remove the member okay so that would be one clarification and then another clarification would be when you're talking about allowing current law enforcement and family would that also include city employees because there's a current prohibition against allowing city employees so are you are you trying to encompass our police department or just potentially outside police department I see that's another clarification I would not I had not thought of that yeah that's a good distinction and then the felony restriction I wasn't real clear on what I tried to write that down but I wasn't really clear on what you were asking for so currently the ordinance states that a member can not have been finally convicted of a felony or if they are a convicted felon that the felony has been overturned at the appellate level are fully pardoned so there's options there that that you could do if you wanted to remove that as a requirement you know you could soften that to allow felons to serve if they're if they've been discharged from the provisions of you know whatever it is incarceration probation or parole I'm not sure if you would want them to serve if they're just currently on probation but that's another option so I mean there's there's different different options here that would need some clarification on in order to nail down so we could make the ordinance specific okay what I am clear on is this I don't think we have sufficient time to look at this and and the more I'm hearing discussion going on with the dies you know the more I'm thinking there are things that I have to consider right speaking for myself I'm uncomfortable with doing this deliberation on the dies it's different from doing it in a work session it's different from doing it that way all right I'll go back to what I said originally I don't think that this is ready I don't think that it is right I can point to some things that I can identify off you know a read right now but there may be more so that's where I'm at I don't know if it's simpler to just withdraw my motion and and do that because I am struggling right now to offer sufficient clarification so it sounds like your motion would be you're wanting to continue the vote and not vote on the current ordinance as written our point of order do let me just get clarification then we'll get there yeah thank you I just want to I'm trying to read into what you're saying here if that's your preference if you're wanting to pull your motion off we'll go through that process short answer yes okay and I'll say why okay all right listening to both kim neal and the chief right something that opposing sides of this argument it said right giving him sufficient chance to do something and not just simply clean up his apartment but to reconstitute his advisory committee it seemed that there was purchase there I've heard that some faith-based leaders had you know some support for that I think that's in line with giving him a chance to do just that so what I would just add I know me I know you try to do something let me just say this real quick this is really social social making as mad I mean Gina would say I would say this we want to take the vote tonight and so you have a substitute motion on the floor that's already been second if we can vote on that or if you're going to withdraw your motion whatever the legal process is but I'm asking you Carlos not to continue this case because you got a lot of people who have sat here in this 1030 let's take the vote tonight however people vote that's what happens and to be clear that's my point of order if the motion has been seconded can it be withdrawn or is what's the procedure if Leigh Ann could you because that's what I was motion and I seconded it so I feel like we're owed a vote on on Councilor Jeanette as your official parliamentarian okay well apparently I just got promoted congratulations um technically um since the motion was made and seconded um it can't be withdrawn because it belongs to the dais okay um and so that's if the council member was not comfortable with it the way you would handle it would be to vote it down and then you could make another motion if you wished to continue it to but to clarify for everyone his motion would not be a substitute motion if I understood because council member nettles made the motion to approve it with a name change you weren't opposed to the name change correct well I well that's true so that's the that's your main motion um so council member nettles made the main motion uh to approve with a name change as part of his motion and then you made a an amendment to his motion to take out those items does that make sense an amendment to his motion yes if you were making a substitute motion it would be to deny because it would be completely turning around his motion I think leon has some clarification here well let's yeah you could you could just vote on the withdrawal that's in the rules of procedure yes you could vote on a withdrawal so if you all agree that it's withdrawn then it'll just be withdrawn no I seconded the motion because I wanted to vote I think that the struggle is we're not clear on what the motion is that that's that's the struggle I'm clear on what I'm voting on and so I'm very clear on what I'm voting on maybe I need you to clarify because so councilman flora has made a motion to make three changes to remove the language to the ability of a felon with their rights restored which legal has told us was not even in the the document that that you were railing against the second one was the two-thirds the two-thirds vote which you in your motion you said to remove that and then to remove the prohibition of a police officer or their family member now if leon and so that's the motion that was seconded I don't think that there's any ambiguity to that I think that's pretty clear I would agree that's clear I think there are just a few things otherwise in the ordinance that would have to be clarified that are currently written such as my next question numeral six which is current or former city employee which is currently in the ordinance and so that was my question to leon is it a standard with the city on any other board and commission like is it a standard policy that current city employees cannot serve on any boards or commission is that in the charter or is that anywhere in the for the most part it ends up being a conflict with their job duties okay so there are there have been some odd instances where that's happened but it's very rare because it would normally be a conflict so this is distinction without difference it sounds like a move point so the motion is two-thirds removed and the prohibition against police officers and their family members being removed we did discuss it in work session that this particular issue and there was around the table discussion about whether or not someone who was a former law enforcement officer from another city being able to serve on that commission so I think that there has been discussion around the table about that the motion stands it was seconded let's vote so yes but it's your motion so if I'm understanding Lee incorrectly what would you prefer you would vote on his original motion pertaining to the two-thirds and a lot of participation of police officers and families it goes up or down how do you handle when a council member intends to withdraw said motion so that withdrawal would happen when they would have the council would have to approve the withdrawal so I think if you just vote on it as it is that would be the next procedural thing that would be best to do just voting on it up or down yeah and just so I understand from the motion from the council member that's making said motion do you support the motion that you made and that's an honest question right and and and to know where you're coming from because we're doing this on the fly I want to understand your intention on that motion so do you support the motion that you currently have on the floor no no okay so you have a motion and a second to which council member Flores doesn't support the motion so we're going to vote on that first council okay guys that makes sense go ahead Jared can I add some more discussion to this vote okay before we take the vote um I know I know but Carlos um you know I appreciate you making amendments we're elected to serve to do what we're doing right now um and so if we want to make amendments I'm I got an expecting wife due January 11th but I'm committed to staying until 8 a.m so if we want to go line by line and make amendments let's do it sign me up I roll up my sleeves I'll take my jacket off as a matter of fact let's do it come on line by line I hear you I'm here man let's line by line yeah any other comments or questions land you have your mic on do you have anything else here no what Rodney McIntosh is here and we're still talking about it so I think if you will allow him three minutes to speak he did sign up go ahead Rodney you snuck in I didn't see you how you doing good to see you time to start okay uh first of all uh good evening uh council members uh sorry for my tardiness man I uh found out a family member uh was murdered a couple days ago uh man and uh of course during the work I do man it seemed like death is always around me uh but I definitely had to come because there are a few things I was just sitting at the homeless and I got to hurry up a few things a few things I've heard that's kind of disturbing for me first of all remember when all of this first started man this was a big fight from so many people in this community to get this done man I honor Christian Eldersman for your uh consistent work uh Jarrah Williams for your consistent work uh Ms. Bivins for your consistent work and supporting other community oversight board and so many other people in this community and I definitely believe uh that the chief of Fort Worth police department is doing a great job I wouldn't I wouldn't stand him I always live by my convictions I believe he is doing a great job he is moving the police department forward but I also believe that from conversation that we had transparency is a big word that I always hear and it sounds like to me man this is just right just another layer to that transparency that the community is asking for uh and I'm it is my prayer and my desire man that y'all would vote for this to happen because man from from again from none said of this man so many people have fought for this to take place and now we're at this place and to see y'all here four hours later still fighting over over this man again I had enough time to sit at home talk to family members about somebody that died and then get her uh to show how uh I feel so man I think we need to move this on definitely need to vote and I think y'all have heard our community right y'all have heard our community since 2019 about how they feel about this but what really drove me down here also Mr. Florez again I'm always be honest and I have a lot of respect for you and you know it but I am a convicted felon and anytime I heard anybody in our community being pushed away from a table or not being given the opportunity served in pastamaic have a problem because if we went out for your your thoughts or your concept or your ideas as much work as I've done in this city what y'all have just said to me is that my voice no longer counts or it doesn't matter on this board or this this uh committee and for me that's frustrating this and not only is frustrating but it's painful so I'm gonna ask also that y'all if you do it make an amendment make an amendment to accept all people in this city to do this work because all people in this city should have a voice thank y'all so much. Carlos did you have something else your lights still on just making sure you don't have anything? I didn't know it was on I just wanted to say thank you Pastor Mackintosh and I appreciate your perspective and uh and where you are in life okay you are valued and respected. So we have a motion on the floor to make the amendments as articulated pertaining to the two-thirds vote for removal and allow participation of police officers and or family members that could be included um as is currently proposed by Council more floor as it was seconded by Elizabeth Beck so what we're going to do first is vote on that motion and then we'll figure out what we're going to do next after that sound like a plan okay no it's not it's not included okay is everybody in okay Carlos motions fail so we still have a live motion on the floor that was Councilmember Nettles earlier and a second I can't remember who second it was Jared Williams that seconded that motion um and we can vote on that motion on the floor unless there's any others up and down the stylus go ahead Carlos just just one question to make sure that I have it written down right uh Chris your motion was community police review board from community police advisory board or did I get that wrong what's your proposed name change Chris the proposed name is community let me open up my binder yeah I believe you wrote down community police review board which the original was community police policy advisory board correct it lacked the word review so I add a review in but took out policy advisory if I add policy advisory would you support it Carlos I'm just trying to clarify what you submitted Chris right that's what yeah that's let me uh amend my uh motion um yeah we can't do that so we got every second so we got to do the same thing again you could vote your own motion down then do it again I'm not voting my eyes down okay so motion stands on the floor okay um before we vote yeah can uh can another can another council member make amendments to that motion no no we could vote it down just like we did with Carlos you could have another motion at that point but okay so I'm gonna say a few things for a second um and if we stay one more hour y'all can ring in my 39th birthday with me tomorrow it's midnight I turn 39 so I have a feeling even if we vote on tonight's motion this discussion is not over and it shouldn't be I think this issue will come back to this council and we have a responsibility to keep having this discussion um and it's incredibly important right now because we are losing Kim Neal and her replacement will be very difficult but I trust that she's helping us already trying to think about the type of leadership we need in the police monitor's office when I ran for mayor I was public about and I said this in numerous discussions in forums and speaking about a Tatiana and I was honest with all audiences on west side on east side and south of Fort Worth I don't think there was a forum that I turned down and oftentimes I showed up by myself and I told those people that I don't think a Tatiana would have died the way she did in my neighborhood and that's a tough thing to say in my city but I believe it at my core and how do you heal a place there's been a lot said tonight that I don't agree with there's been a lot I do agree with and it's come from multiple different audiences and sometimes from the same person at the same time I think decorum and the way we treat each other matters and I texted my dad who's terrible at texting by the way he's a retired minister and he texts in all caps usually tried to explain to him that it means you're yelling but he doesn't understand and he sent me a scripture from the book of James and he said if any of you lacks wisdom you should ask God who gives generously to all without finding fault and it will be given to you and like always he's a wise man and I appreciated that scripture when I needed it I have to address something that my friend Chris said here tonight that I don't agree with whether you are red or blue or independent Democrat Republican it does not mean you don't care about people and I just have to say that is important the other thing I think is important for me to articulate is the way we took speakers tonight is the way we take speakers every night on any issue I don't see a final speaker list until I sit down at this desk and it's already sorted for me and it is always foreign against in that way from the city secretary's office there is no conspiracy that is the way it is listed the only time I have oftentimes gone out of order was when I see a mom with a young child in the audience and I think it's best to let her go home quickly and I've done that and use the privilege of this chair to my colleagues I will apologize for not letting you know ahead of time that I moved this item towards the end of the council meeting but I think now you can understand why I did that because some of those zoning cases would still be in front of us had I not done so but I'll apologize for not emailing you all and letting you know it was a very busy day as many as you realize and I had a kiddo that didn't get picked up on time so I was worried about him first so to move to this motion what I said earlier matters I don't think we're done here tonight and I am trusting my police chief and my friend chief nooks has worked tirelessly both on command staff before under the leadership of Ed Krause and today he's asking us for more time to create a real chief's advisory board and he's even said I want you to hold me accountable and that's his job that's our job from this dais however you have my pledge as your mayor I'm not done talking many of you in this room I've had phone calls with I'll keep having those tough conversations and I would argue that it may be possible we bring this back up again as he's creating a chief's advisory board this council is still toiling with this but you cannot let this issue be defining for this city and you may not always agree with me most this room may not have voted for me but I'm still your mayor right now and I don't care I'll work on your behalf just like anybody else because we are better together in this city and I believe that at my core this dais has to be an example for this community and I'm proud of the people that showed up today even the people I didn't agree with you are great examples of what it looks like to govern and what democracy looks like in action because you showed up and it takes a lot of bravery time away from your own families and you don't have to be here and you chosen to be at this dais so my vote tonight is actually for this community it's not against a police advisory board I'm not opposed to amendments and changes and some of the discussion here tonight this is not the way to do it not in the middle of an almost 11 o'clock evening changes can be made so to my colleagues if you want to bring this back up with additional changes and amendments please do so please do so I encourage you if you haven't already sat down with chief nooks understand where his vision is for this department please do so that's all I can ask it's all I can ask anything else Elizabeth no I just find it to be incredibly rude that you talk continuously when your colleagues are speaking it shows a level of disrespect that this dais does not deserve I think this vote's about to show a level of disrespect that these folks in this community don't serve but we can be difference of opinion let's vote mayor yeah go ahead more I have a hard time believing that this can come back we've had recommendations these same recommendations for a year and a half and the fact that no one came with amendments means that we're not willing to work this out so Carlos if you would like to make amendments I say we continue because I have no faith that anyone is going to bring amendments after this so let's keep working it out I signed up for this so we're going to stay here we're going to do line by line by line until we come to consensus because we've had two years and we wasted two years by not bringing amendments to this point so I hear Jared he may have a motion for continuance but we still have to well how would that work you vote on this anyway regardless you still have to vote on the current motion on the floor correct and then you come back to that okay so vote on the motion on the floor please so the motion was the Chris's original motion that was seconded by Dr. Williams which was to vote on the ordinance as written with the with the name change go ahead if if you if you want to do a continuance is that liens playing clarification here if you want to do a continuance before this vote you would need to do a motion to do that okay if I can make a motion that we continue working on this that's the like in this meeting that's the continuance I want line by line anything else and and that's the point I'm trying to make there's no keep working on this I I appreciate that sentiment but no one's bringing amendments to the table and we've spent hours with no amendments just criticism Jerry you have my commitment the the fight is not over this is just this if anybody's upset it's me and I feel you know I'm glad that you joining in and supporting this Carlos had a few amendments that he made but he voted them down and so let's take the vote and we're gonna keep working the next work session will ask for David to put it back on the future agenda item Carlos did you have something else your lights still on no I think my question was answered if I caught this uh Jared's uh I guess the intended motion was to continuance for continuing the meeting is that right okay all right I just want to be clear okay let me clarify for you Carlos all I would say was if you have amendments to make tonight which it seemed like you did I'm willing to sit here and talk this through because that's what we're here for I I mean yes that's just what the residents elected us to do and to be clear Jared you know when asked originally for the clarification you know I started picking some things out saying well this could be that that could be that but I prefaced it by saying I think that we need more time with it so to be fair to you you know staying here tonight I don't think is going to be productive that's fair brother I respect that okay so motion on the floor from council member nettles this is exactly the ordinance has written with the name change that was already articulated it was seconded by Dr. Williams please vote motion fails that would be the end of our agenda item thank you meeting adjourned