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And if you have a question, type Q, put in your question. And that's pretty much it. All you have to do, type Q, put in your question. Let me see if I, yep, there it is. And then that way we can, I can see your question and I'll put it up for Brian to answer as we go through. And Brian will let you know what he's about to talk about today. So here he is. Hey, here I am. Yeah, today's going to be a real big question heavy day, hopefully. I want you guys involved. So I was doing what I do, just thinking about what we should do for our next class a couple days ago. And I'm sitting there looking at my incredibly toned body and realized we should talk about tone. Uh-huh. You like that, a little tie in? Yeah, that was good. Yeah, so I want to talk about tone. Not necessarily just toners. Well, that is going to be a big part of it, obviously. I want to talk about tone overall. So I was working with Matt a little bit. He came up with some great graphics for us to be working with to help give a little bit of a call back to what we all learned at the beginning of doing hair that I think some of us tend to kind of stray away from as time goes on. I know I'm guilty of it. So I'm sure there are plenty of other people that can tend to be a little bit guilty of whether it is just having that favorite toner that you just slap on everybody or coming up with the excuses of, nah, don't worry, a little bit of warmth is good. It keeps it looking natural when really these things didn't have to be there in the first place. So that's what we're going to talk about today. I love seeing where everybody is from. You know that that makes me so happy and so excited. So I'll go ahead and just introduce our lasagna for the day. I'll just be referencing her over time. Her name is Dolly. I decided this morning. You're welcome. I like that. Yeah, cute, right? Yeah. And so I decided to quarter her out and just go over a few different tones just for reference so that you can see exactly what I'm talking about. So you'll notice she's got a little split Harley Quinn thing going on here. Yeah, she's cute. She's got this delightful haircut. You're welcome. Come around. I gave her a nice warmth to go right up against some nice ashy coolness just so that we've got a good point of reference as we're going through all of this. All right, let's see. I think we should look. Can we start with the underlying pigment please? Or no, I lied. Let's start with the color wheel. Color wheel? Yeah. OK. How cute is that? So here's our color wheel. We all remember this. We all reference it. But we're just going to go over the basics again real quick just as a quick reminder. I've been practicing so I can hopefully get my targets down as I say them. So obviously you've got your primary colors. Those are the ones that you can't create. They just are what they are. They are the base of all colors followed by your secondary. And then the tertiary is around those. I'm going to be referencing a lot of them. I think the other graphics have a small color wheel somewhere on it. But yeah? Yes. OK, good. We're good. Let's go ahead now that we've got this. We've got that established. We're doing color wheel. We're going to be talking a lot about it. I just want to go ahead and go over the dominant pigment chart real quick because that's something that I think more than anything else is what kind of gets left behind in beauty school. So often you've got the clients. So actually I want to start this with the one thing that I am working on is I want to let people just be wrong from now on when they say something to me if it's really not detrimental. And what I mean by that is how many clients do you have that sit down and say, well, my hair lifts red? I don't know why. What hairdressers are telling them that they're unique in that? Because this is something that happens to everybody. So I take that back. That's not one of the places where I'm trying to let people be wrong. That's one of the places where I take an opportunity to educate my guest. Because one, it's going to take the pressure off of you. And it also takes the blame off of them. There's nothing wrong with them because their hair is coming out warm. Hair's coming out warm because hairdressers in the past have not corrected that. If they're noticing that and saying, oh, my hair comes out red, that usually means that their hair is coming out a lot warmer than they like it to. So that means it's your opportunity to maybe educate them a little bit. I cannot tell you how many times I've actually gone to our color book and taken out whatever color lion's version of this sheet is to show them an underlying pigment chart and just explain to them a little bit. Everybody's hair is going to turn warm as we start to lift it in any way, shape, or form. That might not just be highlights. You could be taking somebody who's like salt and pepper from a level four to a level six because they like that nice rich base that a six gives them. But all of the pepper that's in their salt and pepper is dark hair that is going to lift and it's going to lift warm. So that's something that does need to be taken into account. And that's where you have an opportunity to make your guests really, really happy with you. So just refreshing over a dominant pigment chart for yourself, looking at your color line, whatever color line you work with, I guarantee they have got their own version of a color map in there that shows you exactly so that you don't have to guess where their color lies on the actual color wheel. So that you can then reference an underlying pigment chart like this and realize that, OK, if I'm going from a four to a six or a five to an eight, this is where I'm going to land. This is what I'm going to have to deal with. It is not a question. You are going to have to deal with some form of warmth in that hair. And so having something like this can help you understand if you're trying to neutralize out that warmth what you're going to have to use to do it. I know it's a huge thing in hair the past few years to try to be, and I say a few years because that's as long as I've been dealing with it. Maybe it's for much, much longer. But it's ashy hair. It's cool hair. It's always trying to neutralize, neutralize, neutralize. But you also need to understand that neutralizing doesn't necessarily mean completely flattening out any warmth that's in the hair. I personally do like warm colored hair. I think it looks really good and healthy on the right type of person. So I don't necessarily need to get rid of everything. Like with the level eight where you see that yellow-orange. Maybe I don't go in with necessarily a blue violet to get rid of all of the warmth. I just want to get rid of some of the deeper tones of that warmth. So maybe I would just go in with a blue-based toner. But being careful not to turn the yellow-green but softening the blue a little bit. You see what I'm saying? That's where you get to play around a little bit. But being conscious of what you're doing. Because the reason you go in with a blue violet to completely neutralize that is because the violet's going to take care of the yellow, the blue's going to take care of the orange, and then you've got your neutral. So that's where we as artists get to play around a little bit and create whatever kind of tone we want. You just need to be more conscious about it. Yeah, that's pretty good on that. So I want to, I'll go ahead and jump right into showing you the tones that we use with this mannequin. The first thing I want to show you on Dolly, this back panel you see right here is untouched. I did not color this at all. So this is how she started. It's a very warm, very, I'm going to say. Yeah, it's a very golden yellow blonde. I was into it. I did try to throw a couple of highlights in there. So you might see a little bit of dimension but nothing too, too crazy. I just, I really wanted to work more with the base itself. I wanted to show three different, very popular toners and how they would show up on a subject like this. The first, I just went with a nine N. If you look at that side to side in this lighting, I'm very thankful for this lighting because this is the most contrast I've seen between the two. It's very little, but there is a little bit in there because what the nine N is doing is it's going in and just trying to put a neutral toner over something that has a much stronger pigment. So it didn't really do much if you notice that because we weren't trying to enhance or neutralize. We were just trying to add color to something that already had color. It has a strong warm pigment in there. So it really just sort of added maybe a little bit of depth but not a huge color shift. Then jumping into embracing the warmth of it, you see where I went in with a really rich golden, I use Paul Mitchell's The Demi, nine, is it Y? G, nine G, or gold. And I think it's absolutely beautiful because like I said, I really love warm colors and it just adds so much richness without necessarily making it brassy. People are always so afraid of warm colors thinking that it has to be brassy or just not pretty but if you know what you're doing and you go in with intention, it can be really, really rich and gorgeous. I also noticed that it makes it, if you look at this compared to the back, it's not that it's darker, it's just that it has more color to it. It has more pigment which makes it look like it's darker than the uncolored hair. So take that into account. This is just a nine, sorry, this is the nine. So you see, it is still a true nine, it just has more pigment to it. And then finally, I went in with a nine A. Everybody loves an ash, everybody loves that smoky kind of blonde and it's this, I was just telling Matt before we started, this has been the most fascinating panel of hair because I've taken this with me, I put it on in the salon, I've taken it home to dress it up and then bringing it back here. In every light, it is so different. The lighting of my apartment, this was a very pretty like, you know, it was very soft, it wasn't anything too harsh, it wasn't anything that might make somebody go like bleh. But then in certain lights it's a little greenish. That's because I put an A, which is a blue base over this very golden color. So while it did tone things down, it also added a very hint of an underlying green to it because that's what yellow and blue make as we just saw on our color wheel. I do, I like ashy tones, but this is where I always make sure that I remember to point out to my guests that are wanting, you know, oh, you know, I want like really bright white blondes. You gotta be real clear with yourself and with them that once you start, because people think white and ash or platinum and white are hand in hand, but you need them to understand that when you're going in with anything smoky and ashy, cool colors just naturally look a little bit darker. That's their job. Warm colors reflect light, cool colors absorb light. Good question here. Good question. What's that? Do you apply on damp hair, dry hair? These I applied, I mean, normally when I'm toning, the toners that I use are fine for damp hair and that's damp. That's not stopping wet. So really work that towel dry and because water just gets in the way. It dilutes your toner. I believe I did these on, I did do these on dry just because the mannequin was dry at the time. So I wanted, and I wanted it to really stand out and show you what it's gonna look like. Yeah, like I don't think you'd get that intensity of that ash. It wouldn't be that intense. Yeah, but it would, I mean, you'd still see it, but. Right. That's pretty intense ash. It is. But, you know, it's. That ash. It's intense. That ash though. Yeah, so where was I at? I don't know. I don't know, I'm sorry about that. No, it's fine. I'll do like my mom says, where was I? I don't know, I wasn't listening. But yeah, so understanding with your client that, that's where it was. I just had this talk yesterday with my guest. She wants to be white, white blonde. She came in, she's like, I just want my blonde to be whiter. And I'm looking at her hair and it seems a little off. And I failed because she was using purple shampoo to try to make her hair whiter. And she was using it and using it and using it and using it, thinking that just purple means bright when in fact she's going in with a cool color and was making her blonde darker. Because that bright blonde that I had in there with the highlights was now having purple pigment overlaid and overlaid and overlaid to the point where it was starting to mute out her highlights. And I almost had to color correct that out with my highlights yesterday. So that was my bad, but it did offer an opportunity to have that great conversation with her, make her understand, remind me myself that that is something that when you do have your blond and you are talking to them about, if you think a purple shampoo is something that they should be taking home, explain to them what will happen if they overuse it. Because if they're looking to make their blonde brighter, that's not necessarily gonna do it. You don't want too much of any pigment if you want a bright blonde, be it warm or cool. And they tend to make more things to cool hair down at home. So just make sure that they're aware of that. It's not just in my blondes that this becomes a big thing. I have one client that jumped to mine, we've been going back and forth for years, her trying to get her brown, the perfect brown. She's a level six. She's got a bunch of gray and her natural level is maybe, it's around a six, maybe a little bit darker, but she keeps coming up very red. And I joke because it's like, I try to take some of it out and maybe I'll throw a little bit of green in there, but she still comes up very, very red. So that just means that I'm not neutralizing it enough. She doesn't want to be that red, but she does like the warmth. So I am not addressing the true colors that need to be addressed here. I may be putting in a little bit of green to try to cool it down, but as you can see, when I'm dealing at that level six, there's still a lot of orange that shows up. So without me ever touching that orange, she's still gonna look very red. So now I have changed her formula to address, to address both the orange and the red by adding in an equal amount of blue green. That doesn't mean just attacking her hair with just a blue green. You also have to look and see how much of that color is there. The whole tone process really is about looking at what you're working with. When you, whenever I hear hairdressers, while the foils are still on and they have no idea where they're gonna come out, you shouldn't already know what you're gonna tone them with unless you're making them another color. If you're looking to tone a blonde, well, you don't know if using a nine platinum is going to work, because you haven't seen how light you're gonna get that hair yet. If you get it to a level 10 or only a level eight, a nine's not gonna do it for you. So often I see people that won't get a highlight quite bright enough, like they might only make it to that level nine level and then they're pissed when a level 10 toner doesn't work. If you tone with a color that's above where you're actually sitting, then you're not addressing those colors that are in that underlying pigment. So if their hair only lifted to a nine and you're looking to really address that underlying pigment then you need to tone for a level nine. Good, great question. Bring it. Are toners usually a demi? Yes. And the good part about that or at least the ones that I've always used is because it eventually, it needs to eventually fade out because blondes and when I'm toning it's usually a blonde or at least some form of lightened hair. When you're toning you wanna make sure that you're not letting pigment pile up in there too much because that's going to completely muddy your results. The best example I can give you and I use this a lot of times when I'm trying to make my clients understand this, we've all been out in public and seen people. I'm not even gonna say man or woman. We've seen people that are coloring their hair themselves and you can tell they are. Their roots are bright pink and their ends are jet black. How they think this is like normal and they're still walking around, I don't know, but you see it a lot. And what that is is they're using something that is not fading. So they're obviously coloring their hair some form of red. That pink at the root is what's happening with that red and then at the ends it's just piling. It's not that they ever colored their hair with black, it's that they're using color that is not fading away. So it's piling up and piling up and piling up until it just turns black. So with toners, demis are great because you're working with hair, the cuticle is more open because you've lightened it. So you want some pigment that's gonna go in and correct or enhance whatever you've got in there but then you also want it to have the ability to kind of go away. So that the next time you see them, when you apply fresh, you can just tone everything rather than just being nuts and focusing on just what you just lightened because that would really be an arduous process. Same thing when you're dealing with your platinum clients that you were doing like the root bleach and tones all the way out. You know, it looks a little bit terrifying because you've got that freshly bleached root. Thankfully enough of your toner has left the rest of the hair that re-toning everything usually for the most part, I mean, this is not written in stone but for the most part will work out for you again and everything will look nice and even. How we doing on questions? What kind of shampoo do you recommend for white blondes? Color safe, what will keep the brass away? For bright blondes, I focus more on the health of the hair rather than any kind of color care because I feel like if they have a really intense tone like if they're going for a really, really harsh like cool platinum or something that's gonna be very hard to keep in the hair, then I might lean towards something color safe because color safe shampoos are for the most artificial pigment to try to keep that in there be it like a brown or a red or an intense tone. They're typically not for someone who just gets highlights because there's not as much color that you're trying to keep in the hair. That's something else that you might be surprised you need to share with your, a lot of clients and guests think, oh well I came in for a color service so I need color shampoo. Blondes typically don't need color safe shampoo. So I like to lean more towards things that focus on hair that's been blonded be it moisturizing or strengthening because the health of the hair will also help to hold onto your toners a little bit longer. Like I said, as far as colored shampoos or purple shampoos, that's gonna be a little bit more up to you and them. I don't think everybody needs a purple shampoo. I think that that really is more a case by case kind of thing, myself. Let's see, I know Aveda color systems are different. I'm afraid of not knowing how to use other brands when I leave school. How do you feel it would be an easier transition? So I worked in a salon with Aveda color. I think you're gonna be fine. The thing, I haven't touched Aveda in quite a few years but I was in my first salon, trained on it quite a bit. I think you're gonna be just fine because Aveda, it was, in my day it was like, okay, here's, it's all ends and then you just add whatever pigment you need to create whatever colors you want. If that's still how it is, then if you transition to another color line, that work will already be done for you. You're just gonna have to do your homework with their color map. That's gonna be your best friend because anytime you switch from whatever color line to another color line, you need to study the hell out of that color map because ash in one color line could mean blue and it'll mean green in another one and that, let me tell ya, is a revelation if you didn't do your homework because that will give you very different results. So you are gonna be just fine. Stick with us, stick with me, I got you and just still study your color map. One other thing real quick while Matt's looking through questions that I did hit on this week that does play into this, I did a lot of studying on identifying skin tone because every now and then you get that client that sits down and says like, what's a really good color for my skin tone? And I'm sure many of us have just lied through that but it comes down to, it's very simple. It's not super crazy. Helping to identify your underlying tones is a rather simple process. I was telling Matt yesterday that it was stressing me out so much because I was having a hard time finding my own only to realize that I'm more neutral. That's, I was expecting like an either warm or cool. It would be very easy, very simple because these are very easy, simple tests to see what your underlying skin tone are. The ones that I like the most, checking the veins in your wrist and looking and seeing if they are more like blue, purple than you typically will have a cooler skin tone, underlying tone. If it's more of like a greenish, then you've got warmer. If you, they say a lot of times it has to do with the coloring, eyes, hair. That on me shows up that I would probably be warm because I've got the dark brown hair, I've got the dark brown eyes, blue eyes, lighter hair, a lot of time can do cooler skin tone. So what to do with that, they say going opposite, just like finding complementary colors on the color wheel that we use to neutralize like a red and a green. Got that? There we go. We use that, we use complementary colors to tone. But if you look out in the world, complementary colors are used in decoration a lot because they look really good together. A lot of, a really easy way to picture that in your head. A lot of high schools use complementary colors as their school colors. Like mine were purple and yellow. A lot will do, Christmas is red and green because it looks good together. We see orange and blue together a lot because they look good together. All these colors are meant to go together. So if you think of that, then when determining something that would look really good on someone's skin tone, find their complementary hair color to go with their skin color. Not everybody's gonna look best in an ash. I have a guest, I love her to death, she's totally open for anything. She literally does not care. So I've just been having a lot of fun because her hair gets really, really light. So I can go in and do these really great platinum's and ashes. But when it's done, the hair looks great, but I wasn't feeling like the hair looked great on her. And it wasn't until I kind of stepped back and realized that it was too close to her skin tone. She had a cooler skin tone. So me doing those platinum's, those ashes, it just kind of mixed together and just muddied an overall look. And it wasn't until I started embracing some more warmth, going for warmer fantasy colors, going for warmer toners that it really started to just make her pop. It makes the skin just look healthier. The hair looks great. Being honest with what you're working with is gonna give you so much better of an end result. It's gonna give you the kind of results where you don't have to talk your client into liking their hair. They're gonna let you know how much they love their hair. Okay, let's do some questions. Cause that's, I think that was most of the bases I wanted to hit on. I'm sure random things will pop into my head. Again, cause I'm not doing an application of anything this week. That was good. I like the idea of the complimentary colors. I never thought of it that way of like when you have cool skin, warmer tones. Yeah, cause in hairdressing we're so used to complimentary colors fighting each other. Yeah. That when you step back and use them for what they're mostly used for in the world, it can do some really, really cool stuff. Cool. All right, let me put that back up. All right, who we got? Who we got? Good morning, everybody. When should you use an acidic toner? I mean, I don't know of, I mean, I guess anytime you are using anything acidic it's because you're trying to, which one is that? I'm trying to think of what an acidic toner is. I actually threw this up there just to see. See if I did? Yep. Great. You're welcome. Hey, it's all right. It's not something that's in my world. Yeah. Like it's not something that I, maybe I am using it and just don't know because I have not referred to it as that. Yeah. So maybe a little bit of clarification like what you mean, because acidic acidity is for closing the cuticle. So I would just guess that it's, that's the purpose of it. If I just had to, based on just the surface of that question that, you know, after we're using lightener, you've lifted the cuticle you've gotten in there. So maybe some toners, maybe all toners, maybe these are super low on the scale that just helped to shut that cuticle back down. Yeah. Maybe my guess, especially for like really blown out hair that would be very helpful. Yeah. And I don't, I don't know which toners we have in the building that are considered that. Yeah. I haven't gotten, I haven't looked at the pH scale of that. Of the toners, yeah. Yeah. But you know what? That's something we will check out. That's why we do this together. That's exciting. Because we all got shared knowledge. Or just wait till Danielle shows up. Yeah. Because I'm sure she knows. She knows everything like that. She knows. All right. Let's get a couple more questions out of here. Yeah, we got a couple. Can you use permanent color once bleached? Yeah. I mean, depending on what you want to do with it. Yeah. Go for it. You can do whatever you want. How often should they use purple shampoo and how long? That there is no answer that I can give you for that. I think that purple shampoo has its place. It's for the people that you're trying to keep up with something, and that also depends on the purple shampoo. Because I've used some that have a very pinky base and really don't do anything on highlights unless they're a level 10. But then I've used some that will turn hair so gray, so fast that it really varies. You need to know that question has so much to do with what one you're using, what the canvas is that you're working on, what the end result you want is. I need to defer that to you. I typically try to be the one who does any color change in the hair. Like I just told my client yesterday, stop with the purple shampoo. I will handle the tone of your blonde. She's like, well, okay, so now that we've got this tone, how often should I use it? I said, don't. If you this summer are outside a bunch and you look in the mirror and go, oh my God, my hair is yellow, then you can use it. But don't just use it because it's been a week since you've used it, because that's not, that's not the point of it. All right. Will this life be saved? I struggle with toners. I'm able to listen in and out with the Info's Priceless. Well, thank you very much, David. Matt, there you go. Yes, they're always saved and they're available. Yeah, check us out. On the app. Dude, what a great little segue. Can I also say that I just learned this, I've used the word segue my whole life, but I just learned how it's spelled. When I see that in books, I just skipped over it, not knowing what the hell they were talking about and realize that it's spelled crazy. Oh. It's like S-E-G-U-E, I think. Oh. I don't know. I always spelled it like the segue that the mall cops write. I think you're right, because that's exactly what I'm thinking. Yeah, no, it's not. It's a fun spelling. But anyway, so great segue into the app, Matthew. Yes, download the app on the App Store. Look at that. It's very complicated for some people for some reason, but it's on the App Store. It's on the App Store. It is a lot of fun, because it does give us a way to cut out the middleman of other social media platforms get in the way with their algorithms, and we can just kind of chat with each other. It's just here. And exciting stuff. I literally just got the new build to test out, because we're almost ready to relaunch all the new live features and different things. So you're gonna watch these classes and chat within the app real soon. Oh, that's cool. And go live yourself and teach. Because that's what it's all about. We're just steering the ship right now, but I love everybody getting in on this. Everyone has stuff to offer. I'm seeing all kinds of people helping each other out in the chat about this question and that, and oh, it's great, I love it. I love this. This is what I love about this. All right, a few more, because lots of questions are coming in. All right, how do you remove yellow from gray hair? Yellow from gray hair, I actually just taught another client about this last night. She's embracing her gray after lockdown. Yellow and gray hair comes from a few different places. It can be heat damage. I talked to them about that so that they can limit that. It could be environmental. If they're smokers, it could be from that. If it's always some kind of outside source. So identifying what the source is is very important. And that might be a case where using a purple shampoo does come into effect because it's going to help correct that yellow and you don't have to worry about it turning the hair silver because it already is. Look at that. So yeah, figure out why it's turning yellow. I did a few highlights on my BFF. She wanted a caramel color on them so when I toned it, it got the color she wanted but after a week it washed out and went brassy. Why would that be? You might have gone a little lighter than you needed to. Caramel usually lives, you don't, not all highlights need to go to a level 10. You know, you can absolutely get to, caramels in my opinion live in like that seven, eight range. So, you know, think about if you even need to use bleach. If you're dealing on virgin hair, maybe you can just go in with color if you're only going a couple of levels to get to that point because then you're using permanent dye molecules that are gonna stay in there much longer. If, you know, you did the highlights and maybe it took a minute and well you didn't mean to go to a nine, 10 but they got there, tone it, get to that level. You might need to do a little bit of filling. Remember that, remember repigmentation that we did back in beauty school and then never again afterwards. That's a situation where you might need to use it because that highlight is so hollow and void of color that it can't even hold onto something like a caramel. So adding a little bit deeper warmth into that toner formula will give something for that caramel to hold onto so that it can hopefully hang around a little longer. For now, go ahead and toner again because whatever that brass that's left is what that hair was trying to grab onto to repigment itself. So now that that brass is in there, address that color using a dominant pigment chart to get to the caramel that you want. How do you suggest that we propose cool hair colors to clients with warm skin tones? You don't, just it's all in the verbiage. Start with complimentary. Compliment is a word that everybody likes. So using complimentary colors are just gonna be what looks best. Maybe not referring to it as an ash or referring to it as something that may scare them off but just making them understand that, oh, well, you're lucky, you've got the kind of skin tone. You can pull off these tones which opens up a whole world of really great, this would go great with your face and just keep the compliments going. Explain that this is what's going to really make their hair color look amazing. Overexplaining almost always works out. Okay, I don't know if this is Crystal in this picture but that's awesome, I hope so. I hope so too. That's either the best karaoke ever. I wanna know Crystal. Or she is performing to thousands, I don't know. I wanna go out with Crystal. What shampoos would you recommend to preserve the life of toner? I have guests that say it washes immediately after washing at home, even after recommending shampoos. Again, maybe it's a case of addressing, it could be something other that's causing their toner to fade off too fast. Again, maybe the highlights got a little too light so maybe you need to start looking into putting more moisture back into the hair, getting the cuticle to lay back down, putting some strength back into the hair because if the hair is not in a healthy state, it's just gonna let go of all those color molecules of the toner because typically toners are not meant to go super deep into the hair like a permanent color. It's really just like hanging out for a little while. So if you're not making sure that the hair is as healthy as it can be to hold on to those molecules, then they're just gonna let go and drop out like the bottoms out of grocery bags and then there it all goes. Sweet. Just downloaded the app. Matt's super excited to dive in. I'm a nurse on the weekends. Oh my God. Do you during hair during? Wow, that's awesome. That comment just hit you right in the face. Jesus, I mean, talk about a life of just serving people and helping them feel better. That's amazing. Thank you for all you do. Yes. And then here we go. So the app is FSE Now. FSE Now. We have free salon education. I think Cecilia and I, I mean, that's a wedding photo. But like if I need to marry Cecilia so that we can hyphenate our name and be the hair care family because that would be really great. So. All right, there's. All right, I think we're. We're good. Everybody has everyone feel. Yeah, I mean, there's a few more but I think we kind of answer them. So if you guys don't feel like your question was answered, if you watch this again, I would definitely suggest watching this again if you can or referring back to it because there was so much information packed in. It was great. Hold on. Kel's real quick. I do want to hit on because that, I've seen that yes work and not work. The yes. Clear color on the hair to seal it from not washing out. Not always. Especially the last couple of years, one of the big tricks that people have been doing is throwing clear over hair to wash out toner buildup or fantasy color buildup because clear is doing the same thing that other toners do by opening up the cuticle to allow to go in. So there's a good chance that whatever clear you're working with could actually work against sealing in. Sometimes it works. It may be with permanent color, things that have done gone deeper into the hair, but as far as toners go, I always feel like it waters it down a little bit and causes more of your toner to fall out. All right, let's get this last question here. Bring it. Does toner work on permanent hair color? Yes. Cause I'm thinking about my client. I'm not thinking of like an eight, nine, 10 level. I'm thinking down lower like four, five, six. When you lift and get that underlying pigment that you're not crazy about, like our, that way. Like when we get some of those reds, red oranges, even the red violets and you need to tone that down to calm that down a little bit. You can go in and tone with something that is on the level. Again, don't overshoot. If you grab a nine to tone something that's a level four, it's not gonna work because you're not addressing the red violet that lives there. You need to go in with something yellow green, but you will be able to tone out. Toning is just, it's, toning doesn't mean blonde. Toning really is just color correcting. It's color correcting what you're dealing with. So yes, you can absolutely do this at any level you need to be doing. The whole point of this is that you need to be doing this at every level. Whether it's neutralizing, enhancing, just somewhat somehow dealing with the pigment that you've got in front of you. Yeah, because even going from let's say a level four to a level six, that's why a lot of our browns end up warmer than we wanted because we're not actually controlling that dominant pigment at a level six that's gonna show up, right? It's so, we're all guilty of it. You just grab a six and throw it on there and then explain to everyone, yeah, warm is good. Well, if they are noticing it, then that means they probably don't like it. So now it's time to start addressing the actual issues. And educating our guests that, yeah, I know you lift red. Everybody lifts red. Take that opportunity that someone else didn't to educate them about this process which will give them more faith than you. It'll give you more faith in yourself and it'll remind you that there's an extra step that you might be stepping over that you need to be doing in this color process. So I hope that that was all really helpful. It's a lot of stuff that we know but aren't doing. So I hope that this sort of jogs you today and that you go into every color that you do today, thinking about that extra step of, well, is there something that I want to get rid of or enhance or that dominant pigment is gonna show up? What am I gonna do with it? Is the question I want you to ask yourself with all of these today. And I'm gonna figure out, so our pigment chart that we created here for this class, I'll either post it. So maybe Brian can post it on his Instagram. I'll post it on mine. So, and then you guys can refer back to it, have it. I'll put it on the app as well. It'll be this picture with me in the color wheel. Yeah. Get her out of there. You guys can screenshot that. That'd be for my mom. There you go. So I think that's pretty much it. If you guys would like to go follow Brian on Instagram. That's me, hairstyle. I'm on there a lot. If you wanna chat, let's chat. Danielle, are you out there? Danielle's here too. What are acidic toners? Yeah. Somebody asked us what acidic toners are and I just wanted to like. Acidic toners. When would you use them? Okay. Okay, cool. That was like kind of like what we said. Yeah, that's bad. That's basically it. Because I guessed, I was like, I thought it was like a specific thing. So she said a more concise, much more intelligent sounding thing, version of what I said. Yeah. It's great for porous hair to help shut down the cuticle. And do we have an acidic toner in our collection? Yeah, what's the exact pH of every one of our toners? All the demi, okay. I love her for knowing that. I know. So we use Paul Mitchell, the demi and ours are all pH balanced at a seven. So there you go. It'll shut the cuticle down without slamming. It's so tight that it can't do its job. Awesome. And Brittany's asking for everybody's Instagram. So share those in the thing if you want. Oh heck yeah. So we're gonna be part of that community. But also go follow each other on the FSC Now app, find each other there. Don't forget the E. That's the point. The hairstyle is, the E on hairstyle is missing. And I'm on a mission to make sure that people understand how to spell. Wait, what are you talking about? See it says hairstyle on screen. When I move over here, the E kind of disappears a little bit. Oh, that style. And then people are gonna spell my name wrong. Got it, got it. All right, cool. Thank you guys so much for being a part of today. We'll do another Brian Q&A in a few weeks. I like this little, I think people have a lot more color questions like this. Yeah, this is super fun. I love this. Yeah. Well, don't get used to it. You still gotta do pre-duns and all that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, back to work. I mean, you did do a pre-done for this one too, but. All right. I did. All right guys, cool. So go give Brian a follow. Let us know what you think in the comments below. Subscribe to the channel if you haven't done that already and looking forward to seeing you guys tomorrow. We got Danielle. She's gonna do a updo. She's gonna make updo simple tomorrow is what I hear. Oh, finally. I know. So thank you guys so much. Watch out wedding season. Yeah. We'll see you guys soon.