 Good evening, I'm calling to order the joint meeting of the Arlington Select Board and the Arlington Board of Assessors from Monday, August 16th, 2021. This is Select Board Chair, Steve DeCorsi. Permit me to confirm that all members and persons anticipated on the agenda are present and can hear me. Members, when I call your name, please respond in the affirmative. Diane Mahan. Yes, thank you. John Hurd. Yes. Len Diggins. Yes. Eric Helmut. Yes. And for the Board of Assessors, Bob Greeley. Bob, you're muted right now. Yes. Okay, thank you. And Mary Wynne Stanley-O'Connor. Yes. Staff, when I call your name, please respond in the affirmative. Sandy Cooler. Here. Doug Heim. Present. And Board Administrator Ashley Maher is participating remotely. Tonight's meeting is being conducted remotely, consistent with an act signed into law on June 16th, 2021 that extends certain COVID-19 measures adopted during the state of emergency. The act includes an extension until April 1, 2022 of the remote meeting provisions of Governor Baker's order of March 12, 2020, which suspended certain provisions of the open meeting law. The governor's order, which is referenced in the agenda materials on the town's website for this meeting, allows public bodies to meet entirely remotely so long as reasonable public access is afforded so that the public can follow along with the deliberations of the meeting. Before we begin, permit me to offer a few notes. First, this meeting is being conducted via Zoom, is being recorded, and is also being simultaneously broadcast on ACMI. Persons wishing to join the meeting by Zoom may find information on how to do so on the town's website. Persons participating by Zoom are reminded that they may be visible to others and that if you wish to participate, you are asked to provide your full name in the interest of developing a record of the meeting. All participants are advised that people may be listening who do not provide comment and those persons are not required to identify themselves. Both Zoom participants and persons watching on ACMI can follow the posted agenda materials, also found on the town's website using the Novus agenda platform. Finally, each vote tonight will be taken by roll call. I'll now turn to the chair of the Board of Assessors, Robert Greeley. Mr. Greeley. Good evening, everyone. I would just like to say a few words. As we all know, we are here tonight to fill a vacancy on the Board of Assessors. I do not use the word replace because I do believe Kevin P. Fairly is irreplaceable. Not only as a member of the Board of Assessors, but as a personal friend. I have been a friend of Kevin's for 55 years. I have also served for 35 years on the Board of Assessors with Kevin. And if you may indulge me for a minute, I would like you to know that Kevin has roughly served this town for 70 years. His first job was on a honey wagon. Does anybody know what a honey wagon is? Those were the days when the town of Allington, okay, would collect garbage. And some of you still may have holes in your back yard from where you kept the garbage. And believe it or not, it would go to the Piterino Brothers, which was the Shell gas station on Grove Street. And then it would go to the Piggeries in Lincoln. Believe it or not. Kevin then went to Holy Cross. He then got his law degree. He then hooked up with Kevin White, who was the mayor of Boston when Kevin was secretary of state. Kevin was Kevin White's purchasing agent, director of city hospital when they merged and director of the housing authority. As time went on, Kevin ended up over at the Massachusetts Water Resources Authority as the director of procurement. As far as his Allington service, the years he was a town meeting member, he served in what we used to call the old recreation committee. He was on the town democratic committee. And where you all sit today, Kevin sat there in 1964 to 1970. He then was the leasing agent for the town of Allington for a number of years. And then in June of 1987, he was appointed to the board of assessors whereas you all know he sat until his recent death. All I can tell you is I cannot tell you how much I miss him. I miss him as I do my three brothers. And as far as I'm concerned, I never met a higher classier, more compassionate man of integrity than Kevin Bailey. And I miss him dearly. Thank you. I would now like to ask you all to have a moment of silence in Kevin's memory, please. Thank you. I would now like to make a motion where I nominate Steve DeCorsi as chairman of the joint meeting between the board of selection and the board of assessors. I will second that. Attorney Heim, do you want to run the vote? And then we'll... I thought I asked for a vote. Yeah, no, no, no. We have a motion in a second, but Attorney Heim will call the roll for that. Thank you, Mr. Grayley. And thank you for the tribute to Mr. Feeley. We all knew Kevin and appreciated him as a person and for the service that he gave to the town over the years. So thank you for the tribute, Mr. Grayley. Mr. DeCorsi, before we take the vote, are there any other nominations? Hearing none on a nomination for Mr. DeCorsi, the chair of the select board to administer the meeting. Mrs. O'Connor. Yes. Mr. Grayley. Yes. Mr. Herd. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helmuth. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Mr. DeCorsi. Yes. It's unanimous vote. Thank you, Attorney Heim. And thank you. So we are here tonight in the joint meeting to select an interim assessor for the period to run through next April. And again, for the public's benefit, under chapter 41, section 11, where there is a vacancy on a board that has two or more members, as the board of assessors does, when a vacancy occurs, the interim or the vacancy is filled by a joint meeting of the remaining members of the board and the full select board. And so we had this earlier this year for the select board. Recently, we had a housing authority appointment that was governed by a different statute. So I just want to provide a little background on that. We have five candidates this evening and I will name off the candidates. James Darty, Guillermo Hamlin, Gordon Jamison, Philip Lonus, and William Zagata. And what I would like to do is by alphabetical order call each one of the candidates up to present to the board for a minute or so in terms of why they are interested in the interim appointment. They have all submitted written materials. I will then turn to the joint meeting for any questions of each of the candidates one by one, and then we will then go to a nomination process. Before I start, does anybody have any questions? Yes, I have a point of order if I may, Mr. Chairman. Sure. I have two points. I submit for consideration. I know that the board of select the select board has appointed interim members who express an interest in not seeking the seat. There clearly is interest in the seat. And I wonder if there should be a discussion as to that criteria for this interim appointment. The other thing is I would like to disclose to the joint body that I represent Mr. Darty as his counsel. And if he is nominated, I will re-recusing myself from the vote. Okay, thank you, Mr. O'Connor. And one thing I'll say on the first point, and I think members can ask questions of each one of the candidates. The only requirement, and the attorney, I'm correct me if I'm wrong here. The only requirement for the appointment is that the individual is a registered voter in the town of Arlington. That is correct, Mr. DeCourson. Okay, so I think to that first point, I think individual members can consider that. And if it's something that we wanna talk about as we talk about the candidates, I think that would be the more appropriate time to do that. Thank you. Sure, okay, so if we could, let's move to the candidates and we'll start with James Darty if we can promote him to present to the board. To the boards. And while you're doing that, Mr. Chair, if I could. Certainly. Could we sort of have a standing question of all of the five candidates if they could just make a statement on whether they are applying for this to fill the remainder of the term or if they're applying for this and right now have intentions to run for the position? Certainly. Thank you. I'm sorry, sorry, Mrs. Mahan. Mr. Chair, may I raise one other point? Sure. I just wanna make sure that it's clear that Ms. O'Connor spoke with me about the conflict of interest and I appreciate her disclosure. I would just respectfully suggest that any questions for candidates are also saved until after nominations are made so that Mrs. O'Connor is not stuck in a situation where she has to choose which candidates she might ask questions of before nominations are made. Does that make sense? Yeah, I appreciate that for Mr. O'Connor. The only thing on that is if a member feels that they need a question prior to making the nomination, we'll have to address that when we come to it but let's hear the presentation. Understood. See what happens with the nominations and then we can take it from there. Thank you, Mr. Ducorsi. Sure. Okay, good evening, Mr. Dardi. Good evening, Mr. Ducorsi, board members, former fellow board members. Never a dull moment and Jim Dardi elects to use his constitutional rights just because the issue was addressed, I was actually not going to bring it up because I've spent the last couple of years listening to my name be badged through a very open process and misrepresented. However, we're gonna cut to the chase here. The board has a long history as the chairman just mentioned of staying out of politics as it relates to the board and in my opinion, other boards as well. Namely, appointing a prior member, if qualified, which I would suggest I am eminently qualified and I would ask you to do the same here. As Mrs. Wynne Stanley disclosed, I spoke to her personally. I requested that she abstain, not from a standpoint that does a conflict, but to the standpoint that people have attempted to smear people's reputations, you know, register. Having said that, I would simply ask the board, I'm here for two reasons. I spent 21 years on the board of assessors with Kevin Feely. I will add one thing, nobody can out talk Bobby, good friend of mine, but I will say Mr. Feely's grandfather was the school physician at St. Agnes School that I attended as well. So, and his son graduated with me, so we don't have a conflict there as well. But finally, what I would say is this, this board in my opinion and demonstrated most recently and thank you, Mr. Corsi, for recognizing in your memory of history, my son James, you were correct as it related to the derby. And thank you, Mr. Hurd, by the way, for your kind comments of improvements we hope to do in Allington. I've probably gone beyond my one minute. So I will simply say I'm here because I would be honored for four months, six months to fill Mr. Feely's seat as a tribute to him. I have no intention of taking the stipend, which will be hopefully seed money for a scholarship fund for everyone and anyone who you ever had comment on the gentleman about his compassion and public service. And beyond that, I won't bore you with my details or my life, but I'd be more welcome to answer any questions on the road. And I wish the best to the other three or four candidates. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Dardi. The second candidate is Guillermo Hamlin. And while we're waiting for Mr. Hamlin, I wanna thank all of the candidates for their willingness to serve the town. We have one spot to fill, so there'll be one person, but we appreciate all five for submitting their interest. Mr. Hamlin, can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you, hopefully you can hear me. I can. And given that the president that was said, I will be generous on the minute or so that you have to present to the board, but the floor is yours now. Thank you because I actually request, if I can share a video, I have a video presentation that's under three minutes. Well, is it between two and three? Cause I, Mr. Dardi did go over, but if it's over two minutes, that's beyond what way you're allowing this evening. So you can choose how you spend your time, but if it goes over, you get up to about the two minute marking and have to cut it off. If you, I'll proceed with a presentation here today orally, I have a video, did not know about this criteria, but I'll proceed accordingly. Hello, my name is Guillermo Hamlin. I live on 1228 Massachusetts Avenue and I am also a precinct 14 town meeting member. I'd like to thank the joint select board and board of assessors meeting here today in filling the vacancy left by Kevin Philly. I'd like to thank the speaker who went before me talking about Kevin Philly. Unlike everyone else here, I don't know Kevin Philly in the breadth or to the extent that anyone here does. I do know that as a opponent of his, and I don't mean that in any negative connotation, but as a competitor, he was very generous and kind with me. He did not need to be. We both were quite polite, but what I appreciate was being gracious with this time and allowing us to compete openly to share ideas. And ultimately when I had lost to him on April 2021 for the board of assessor seat, it was an honor. And the reason why I'm submitting my name here today is to fill this role for the purposes of the vacancy, meaning that if it's of the interests of the board, if it's of the interests of the board of assessors, I am more than willing to just fulfill this vacancy until the next town meeting, in which case we'll allow for an open election of whoever may be interested in running for it. I have spoken to my fiance about this matter and we decided and or decided to, if we were to do this interim appointment, that it would be nice to slide off, fulfill my obligation in getting married, enjoy a wedding and to not endure three full years of an election cycle. And my skillsets vary from government access television. I've served on community action agency of Somerville, a federal anti-poverty nonprofit that is a cap agency for the city, Cambridge and Somerville. I've served under its finance committee. We've scheduled and participated in regular audits. We make sure that the fiscal health of our organization is strong so it can align with our strategic planning growth. Ultimately, I see myself as a para assessor aiming to assist Bob Greeley, Mary with Stanley O'Connor and the assessor's office cross the finish line to get the work done. I'm not going to outwit these incumbent assessors, nor do I want to misrepresent my expertise here, but I believe that with help, my perfect attendance, I could help us get over the finish line and then do the public service as needed in memory of Kevin Feely, fill out his vacancy and then let it be an open seat. Thank you, and I yield back my time. And thank you, Mr. Hamlin. The next candidate is Gordon Jamison. Good evening. Good evening, Mr. Jamison. Good evening, can you hear me? Yes, I can. And very quickly, I'll truncate my presentation. So thanks for the opportunity. When I consider how I might best to assist the board in its work, it's certainly not as assessor as Mr. Greeley was one of those. It's not legal, Mr. Wittman Stanley O'Connor has a good long-term standing in that field. And I have no doubt that the assessor and the staff can provide property owners with accurate assessed valuations of a sound property data set. So how best to leverage my doctoral business, problem-solving abilities, plus my six terms of town meeting followed my following of the assessors and board activity for many years and as physical resource task group car chair. Well, my objective is to bring a fresh look at the responsibilities of the board member. Three things that I would focus on as a member to help ensure the accuracy of that data set or the data set group into macro, micro and financial impact. The 14 to 15,000 different parcels in town are grouped into neighborhoods. With the recent population growth in town, the completion of the elementary schools and looking at a mean median analysis of residential properties in those neighborhoods, one might wish to either increase the number of neighborhoods, merge some of them or tweak them. This approach also provides a great way to look for outliers for QA, QC control. The micro part, that's dropping down to the property card information. Physical resource task group did an analysis with the assistance of the assessor and his staff and then we've shared this information with them and we determined that 11% of the properties had not been visited in the past 20 years, which we found I'd have to say shocking and that only 26% of the properties, residential properties had been internally inspected within the last five to six years, which includes the last 10 year major reassessment. I think that, draw some questions about Patriot's properties and their performance metrics in their contract. They're the major source of information for the property card information. And finally, financial. Not everyone thinks about the valuation of their property but important as a member of the finance team, the assessor's department determines new growth in conjunction with the inspection and services department. So I'll just have one point that I wanna address that I think makes us wanna look at that process in greater detail. If you look at Zillow, which has a lot more money than we do to analyze numbers. They list residential properties at being 25% below market rate. Now that's no problem for the taxpayer, if everyone's 25% low, but it does question whether we're also making our new growth 20%, 25% below where it should be. So in conclusion, I hope to bring a fresh percent perspective to the board. And if I can accomplish these objectives over the next six, eight months or at least get them moving, I see no reason to run for a reelection in the spring. And I thank you for your consideration. Thank you, Mr. Jamison. The next candidate is Phillip Lonus. Good evening, Mr. Lonus. First, because it rarely happens, thank you for correctly pronouncing my name. It certainly doesn't spell and pronounce the same way, at least in English. So you wanna know why I'm interested in this position and what I hope to do for it, et cetera. First, as Guillermo related, Mr. Feely was just an incredibly classy guy and it was an incredibly classy race that was run. And I just really appreciate that. And I thank you, Mr. Greeley, for that memorial to him. As I noted in my letter, the town lost a living treasure when he passed. I really hope to get to know him better. So I'm the CPA and CPAs have fiduciary responsibility. That's kind of how we look at the world. And this is really a very fiduciary position where it's not a policy position. It's a position where you have to look at what the rules are and implement them as they are. And the other thing that you need to do is to be able to explain what turns out to be more complex than one would think to the individual taxpayers when they have appeals as they will in many cases. And since I deal with the federal and state tax code and explain that to many consumers, I have a good ability to translate that kind of thing into something that the common layperson can understand. And I think that I can bring that to this office. And as Mr. really mentioned to me, he remembers my work in the assessing office, I'm sorry, the appraising office of Charles R. Elabberty, which I did as my first job out of college. So I'm kind of familiar with the datasets and manipulating the datasets. And I'm afraid I'm so old that that was actually when it was a bit of a trick to computerize things. The world has moved forward since then. Unlike everyone else, I would be straightforward. I had intended to run again. I'm kind of grieved to be applying for this seat in the sense that it's open. But I also will feel that in a sense I owe it to him and as the next leading boat getter, I think I have the most mandate from the public, but that's not the only criterion in which you need to base this, but I pointed out. And that's all I have to say. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Lones. And our fifth candidate is William Zagata. Good evening, Mr. Zagata. Good evening. My name is Bill Zagata. I'm a certified general real estate appraiser and I've been appraising in the greater Boston area for about 15 years. I've lived in Arlington for a bit over five years. In my professional experience, I've had the opportunity to assist a number of cities and towns with more complicated appraisal problems, specialized properties. I've done work, for example, up in Beverly on the coming center, which is a 2.1 million square foot office complex. And that's something I do annually for the city. But the reason I've been interested in this position is, although I've been in Arlington for a very short time, given my professional background, I thought that this would be a good way to become more engaged with the community and the government. And my experience as an appraiser, working on both sides, working for towns and against towns, I think I have a perspective that will be very important to help the board and to help citizens who have questions about their valuation, how do we get to that valuation? And I would look forward to the opportunity to serve the community and be part of the board of assessors going forward. In terms of running for a three-year term, I would like the chance to fill this position in the interim and I foresee things going well and taking a chance to run for the three-year position at the end of that. So, thanks a lot for this opportunity and I hope to meet you in person at some point in the very near future. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Zagata. Okay, so that is the five individuals and as we just heard that we really, these are all individuals who are willing to serve the town. We appreciate them stepping up to do that. At this point, unless there are any questions that people have before we open the nomination process, I'd like to take a motion to open nominations and then move on with that process. So moved, Mr. Chair. Second that. Thank you, Mr. Hurd and Mr. Helmuth. So an emotion to open nominations by Mr. Hurd, seconded by Mr. Helmuth, Attorney Heim. Mrs. O'Connor. Yes. Mr. Greeley. Yes. Mr. Hurd. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helmuth. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Mr. DeCorsi. Yes. Mr. unanimous vote. Thank you. So I'm not going to go down the line if any individuals have a nomination, if they could just signal to me, I will recognize the individuals who so indicate. Mr. Chairman, I have a question of the five individuals if I could. Sure. I would like to ask them only because this question, since I've gotten on the then board of selection, now select board since 1999, concerning assessments in the Winchester Country Club. And if an individual or individuals do not have an answer, that's fine, but it's been pointed out to me for many years that the town of Wellington assesses the Winchester Country Club differently, a different formula than the town of Winchester. And it's a five to six-figure difference if we stay the way we're doing it, a Winchester done. So I'm just wondering if I could ask each of the candidates, and it's okay if you don't have an answer, starting alphabetically, if I could, Mr. Chairman, through you at Mr. Daugherty, what any opinions they have regarding assessing the Winchester Country Club as a parcel that exists in Wellington? Yeah, Mrs. Mohan, I appreciate the question. I am a little concerned about getting into a specific property discussion for purposes of this evening. All right, that's fine. And I think it's an appropriate question for the assessor, but I mean, this gets into recreational land classification and other issues in Wellington in Winchester. That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. I've tried to ask that question since 1999, and it always gets put off, so I'll stand up. Yeah, well, I don't think it should be put off, but I'm not sure... I'll answer it quickly, Steve. Okay, well... The town of Allington, Winchester, Diane had submitted to be considered chapter property, which is 61B off the top of my head. And in that, all land that is not encumbered by a building, the assessment is that 25% of the fair market value. The town of Winchester, the Winchester Country Club chose not to do that with Winchester. Exactly why not? I can't tell you, but it's similar to an exemption that someone would receive in the town. And Winchester, I think off the top of my head in 95, submitted and qualified, and hence they received that benefit. And Mrs. Mahan, that Charlie Foskett asked us specifically about that, and we provided him a detailed response, just so you know. Yes, and I've seen that. So I'll save that for a future Board of Assessors meeting. And the only reason I ask the question is as the chairman of the select board is also chairman of long range planning. If just taking fact by fact, if we assessed the Winchester Country Club, whether it's at a 61B or the assessment that we provide to it, it's a little over a million dollars, but we'll have that discussion in future meeting. So I'm sorry, it's just something I've been trying to get to the bottom of. Since 1999, it's all passed on that, thank you. Okay, all right. And as I said, I think it's appropriate for followup, I just not sure it's fair to the individual candidates tonight to put them on the spot for that type of thing, but so we have, we're within nominations now, if there are any other questions before we do that, we can take questions if anybody has a particular question, if they're not sure on a particular candidate before a nomination takes place, otherwise I'll ask for nominations. I would like to nominate. Yes, Mr. Greeley. I would like to nominate Jimmy Darity. I believe that with his knowledge and experience, he would be the best candidate for the town and for the specific job. Okay, thank you. Is there a second on Mr. Greeley's motion? Out of respect for when I first got on the board, I couldn't get any of my motion seconded. I will second for discussion. Thank you, Mrs. Mahan. Okay, any other nominations? Mr. Diggins. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would like to nominate Gordon Jamison. Okay. Is there a second for Mr. Jamison? I'll second that. Okay, thank you, Mr. Helmhast. Any other nominations? Yes, Mr. Chair, I'd like to nominate Mr. Zagata. Okay, thank you, Mr. Heard. Is there a second? I will second that again. Okay, thank you, Mrs. Mahan. Any other nominations? I would like to, unless someone else wants to jump in, I'd like to close nominations. Okay, do we have a second? Second. Okay, on a motion by Mrs. Mahan, seconded by Mr. Heard to close nominations. Attorney Heim. Mrs. O'Connor. Yes. Mr. Greeley. Yes. Mr. Heard. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helmhast. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Mr. Jacorsi. Yes. Nominations are closed. Okay. So at this point, we have three candidates, Mr. Darity, Mr. Jamison, Mr. Zagata. Again, I would like to thank Mr. Hamlin and Mr. Lonus for their willingness to serve. At this point, if there are any individual questions for candidates, if not, we can move right to a vote. Mr. Jacorsi, if I may. Yes. Yes. Mrs. O'Connor intends to recuse herself, I think now would be the appropriate time and she can turn off her camera and mute her microphone so that the board deliberation wouldn't be influenced by any perception of her participation. I intend to do so. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you. Great. And just for the public's edification, because Ms. O'Connor has announced her intention to recuse herself from discussion of Mr. Dority's candidacy while he remains candidate, if the board and its rounded process ends up eliminating Mr. Dority before a final vote, Ms. O'Connor could rejoin us for that vote later. If that makes sense. Thank you. Yes. Thank you, Attorney Hamlin. Did you have a question, Mr. Diggins? Well, just Mr. Chair, my question is, is it appropriate now for members to make a statement in support of the candidate that they've nominated or do you just want the nominations to stand on the statements that have been made? I'm fine either way, Mr. Chair. Yeah, well, I'll see what other members think. What I was thinking, Mr. Diggins is at the point of the nomination, that's probably we're wearing the statements, I'm not gonna say more appropriate because it can be done at any time. If you'd like to make a statement and you didn't do it earlier, go right ahead. Okay, thank you, I mean, and I'll get better that a lot of times I just make the nomination and I think that there's gonna be a discussion later on and I'll keep in mind that's not the case. I just wanted to say in support of Mr. Jamison, I mean, I was at that meeting, the Fiscal Resources Task Group meeting and I was truly impressed by the level of knowledge me that he brought to the table and the group that he's working with. They understand, I mean, what assessment is about and the potential that is there for new growth, I mean, and he's not an assessor and I think he made a good argument for why that's okay in this case, I mean, and I certainly have confidence that we're there to be some need for assessor type skills that when a question is brought before the assessor is that he would reach out to the talent pool in town and get the answers that he needs in order to answer or deal with the issue at hand. I think he brings a real energy to everything that he approaches me and I've just always been impressed by Mr. Jamison and when I listened to him advocate for himself, he doesn't need me, but I'm happy to join in and support and advocate for him. So thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Diggins. Do any of the members wish to make any statements or if not, we will move to a vote, we'll leave that open. Okay. All right, Attorney Haim, I think at this point we have three candidates who have been nominated and seconded and what we will do is we will take a vote and they'll be, why don't you explain the votes? Well, six voting members now in terms of what it will require to be selected in the process if we don't have a majority here after the first round. Thank you, Mr. DeCorsi. In short, what's required for appointment is a simple majority of the participating members in a sufficient number to form a quorum. So if you have a majority vote on any one of these candidates, we don't need to take any further action. If we don't get to a majority vote of the joint body, what we will do is take the two top vote-getters and then go on to a second round. We'll essentially eliminate the lowest vote-getter and then take a second vote based on the remaining candidates if no one is able to gain a simple majority of the joint body. So I will go down the line and I will ask each participating member understanding that Mrs. O'Connor has recused herself for the name of the candidate voting board to make it most efficient. So with that, unless anyone has any questions, very well. Mr. Greeley. Jim Dougherty. Mr. Hurd. Mrs. Sagada. Mr. Diggins. Mr. Jamison. Mr. Helmuth. Mr. Sagada. Mrs. Mahon. Mr. Sagada. And Mr. DeCorsi. Mr. Sagada. If I've got that count right, that is four votes for Mr. Sagada, one vote for Mr. Dougherty and one vote for Mr. Jamison. Mr. Diggada has obtained a simple majority of the joint body and is therefore the selection. Thank you, Returning Hyme. And thank you. And congratulations to Mr. Sagada. And again, thank you to all of the candidates who express their willingness to serve the Board of Assessors. If it's appropriate, Mr. Chairman, move to adjourn. Yes. Yeah. Is there a second? Second. Okay. On a motion to adjourn by Mrs. Mahon, seconded by Mr. Diggins, Attorney Hyme. Mr. Greeley. Yes, sir. Mrs. O'Connor. Yes. Mr. Hurd. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Mr. Helmeth. Yes. Mrs. Mahon. Yes, thank you. Mr. DeCorsi. Yes. Mr. unanimous vote. Thank you, folks. Thank you very much, everyone. Thank you. Have a good night. Good night.