 It's Wednesday. It's 11 o'clock. It's July the 28th. That can mean only but one thing. It's time for Trump week. And today is going to be a bit of a reunion show. And I'm happy to introduce all our guests here right now. Aloha everyone. We have today we have Cynthia Sinclair Winston Welch Stephanie Dalton and back by popular demand J Fidel. Welcome everyone. Thank you. Hey, I love zoom because we can get 20 more people on his gas and I think that's gonna be great. So we promise a lot of lightning round type of questions and answers. And let's let's let's get into it. The title of this show is Trump stormtroopers coming to a city near you. And Cynthia I'm gonna go straight to you and as you know Donald Trump has sent troops, we won't say troops will say military police, but he's sent them to Kansas City, Missouri, Portland, Oregon, Seattle, Washington, Chicago and Albuquerque, New Mexico. I don't think they've been invited. In fact, I know they haven't been invited, and they've been asked to leave and Donald Trump and the head of Homeland Security Chad Wolf said, No, they're not going anywhere. They're right where we want them. Cynthia, you've been watching this on and off for last week and a half. What are your impressions and clearly now they have legal standing to be there. We'll talk about that in a minute. But what are your impressions about these military police and some of the shenanigans they've been up to. Well, I think they're kind of paramilitary forces in my mind anyway. And I think that it is the same thing I've been talking about for months and months here on Trump week, which is Trump is trying to roll out his martial law plan. And by doing it slowly, which is the way that just about every authoritarian regime has done it to people don't really notice. Oh, it's just Portland. Oh, it's just Albuquerque. It's just, you know, Ohio. And so they feel like it's separated from them. And the problem with that is, then before you know it, it's everywhere. And it's too late to do anything about it. So I'm hoping that Americans will stand up and cry no more, because this is bad. Well, this is, you know, this is a fairly serious thing that you bring to, to the air here and I guess the question is, is the purpose of sending military federal troops or police into all these cities is that a direct resultives. In case he doesn't accept the election results and that he's gonna want to do over or worse yet. He's gonna say it doesn't count and I am staying in office. What would be the purpose of him to declare some sort of martial law at this point. Well, he can say that there doesn't even need to be an election. Once martial law has been officially declared, because he can do whatever he wants them. And that's why I think he's got to do it slowly, because we'll realize what he's doing if he does it all at once. Okay, I think that's why he's doing it. Okay, Stephanie, what are your thoughts about Donald Trump in Mr. Chad's or excuse me, Mr. Wolf's actions to put in federal police, unidentified, going to rental car places, renting vans, rolling around town, picking people off the streets, and not necessarily giving them Miranda rights and or habeas corpus. I'd leave Ditto Cynthia and I wanted to make her point to that this is about the election. This is not about whether he's leaving the White House this is about November the third so as he ramps up this occupation of cities, where there could be a reaction, especially strong reaction, he will have reason to click declare martial laws we get closer to the date, and that's why we won't have the election because under martial law, you can't have that happen. So that election will not happen and I noticed that in the hearings, somebody was asking, can, can the president change the date of an election and the answer wasn't something they didn't know why they don't know. And why that wasn't immediately looked up, whether he's got the right to change the election but I think under martial law, your powers are quite expanded so he would be able to do that. You can change the date of an election what you cannot change is the date he has to leave office, if not reelected, and that is January 20 at 1159am. So yes, you can change an election date for a variety of different reasons but not the date of departure. I think the date of departure is, as you say, set. I think that's a red herring. I think it's a waste of time of precious thoughts and, and plans for what to do about a whole post of other things. If, if the Secret Service as I understand it cannot take care of it, we've got four services that could, and it can get down. It's not a problem. That's that to me is much, much more minor than the entire host. Alrighty. Figures crossed on this. Okay. Hey, Winston, Donald Trump has selected the DEA, the alcohol, tobacco firearms, the FBI, as agents to come into these cities, and as as as reported to protect federal property. But we saw a recent report where he wants to bring in immigration police. Now, I think of all the groups that he's sent in there. There's none more loyal to Donald Trump and immigration. And I find that worrisome because now we don't have any critical thinking, we just have those that will take orders and never question any particular order, no matter how bad it gets your thoughts. It's truly scary. And I think that the Seattle mayor was right. This is a dry run for a martial law or a type of martial law. We don't, he's, he doesn't need to declare a lot of things. He can just do a lot of things and not call it what it is. And whether it's that's declared or not. I think what Stephanie was saying was that this is a prelude to any number of actions. It could be election related. It could, it could be trying to stay in office. But I think even worse importance for the future of our nation after Donald Trump, where everything is becoming just illegitimate and on the table for a future president to take these type of actions who's perhaps a smarter, more capable, more Machiavellian than Donald Trump is. It's hard to see when you aren't seeing a mass pushback, because it's only like Cynthia said, it's only Portland, right? Well, it's only Portland, because if they can get away with it in Portland or in Seattle, then the other cities are not as hard to go because they say we're just here to establish law and order for people on a certain viewpoint. Obviously, they're provoking folks that they know are going to be provoked. They're poking the bear for no good reason, except to have some good photo ops. Okay, well, let me follow up with a question on that point. We did have a court decision saying that the Trump administration was justified to have federal police come in against the wishes of either the state governor or a city mayor. Now, that decision was pretty loose in its interpretation and they left the door wide open for a whole host of new videos of police abuse and the intent of why they were there in the first place. So, so we had the court decision but secondly, remember Lafayette Park in Washington DC right across in the White House, we had a whole host of former generals and chief of staff raised a red flag saying this is totally inappropriate to bring in a military force to quell a peaceful citizen demonstration. Is this the same thing as the military, the airborne troops that were being bused in? Is this the same thing? I think if you're facing those folks on the ground, like the moms holding arms, it doesn't really matter what their badge is or in fact in this case isn't because we don't know who they are, where they're from and what their intent is. It's whether it's military, paramilitary or just, you know, sort of a storm trumpers as I read. I think it doesn't matter. You're facing a heavily militarized group of folks that are not accountable to anyone locally and who have been asked to leave by local authorities and where do we draw the line on that as Americans? You can point to something like Little Rock and the federal troops were there to integrate the schools. That was something about protecting Americans' rights. This isn't about protecting Americans' rights from many people's perspective. Okay, we need, yes of course we need our federal buildings to be safe and protected but that can be accomplished in many other ways and I don't think that's the real. Well, we actually had some, you know, a situation not long ago with the Tea Party called Occupy Wall Street and out of those demonstrations in a variety of cities across the country, through some of the court cases, it was found that the state and cities has a lot more jurisdiction on these sort of things than their right to the First Amendment. And it seems to me that back then the states and local jurisdictions had some authority but now, according to this one court ruling, that's been reversed almost. So that's an interesting way of how the ball bounces. Well, it's just like when we were, when you've got Jeff Sessions, oh God, and then at the end we were like, oh Jeff Sessions you're going to save us from Donald Trump at the very end, right? We thought, oh he's actually, it's kind of like that, that you're looking at your goalpost shifts. Oh, it's suddenly over here. So we've been so bamboozled that it's hard to take to see reality for what it really needs to be. And we just need to keep our eyes on the ball even though it's a very moving target. All righty, thank you Winston. Mr. Fidel. So, basically the court has said federal police are allowed to come in against the wishes of the governor or the mayor, because their sole purpose is to protect the federal problem. That's not, that was not the substantive holding. The substantive holding was that the complaint by the Attorney General of the state of Oregon was misconstrued, mis, it missed the mark. There were flaws in it. And this was more technical than anything else. It was not a substantive holding that, yes, the Trump could bring these people in. And the judge left it open as to whether the Attorney General could refile that. But we haven't heard anything about a refiling and that's a disappointment. A better Attorney General would have refiled the same day and met all the judge's concerns about it. But the bottom line, I think that Trump is testing. He's always testing as, you know, as, you know, as PsychoPaths do. He wants to see how far he can push it. He wants to see how far he can push it in Washington. He learned from Washington. He learned from that general, what was his name, Millie, that it's not a great idea to bring the armed forces and the Joint Chiefs of Staff in on something like this. My guess is that in the case of Oregon, he tried to get the army in, but they said, no, the Joint Chiefs said, no, it's not our back. Then he organized the thing with these phony paramilitary. And they're not military. You counted off the number of the groups that are in there. They're not military. They're various, the various sources of, I guess you could say police. That's why they had to label it. Well, and here's where the cases go, because they're probably not well trained in crowd control. It's not that, it's not that Tim, it's not that he's, he's learned by the press, you know, he follows the news and he follows where he succeeds and where he fails where he gets pushed back. He wants to go in there and dump on the state and dump on the city. And if possible, separate the city in the state. You know, he's into chaos. The more he believes rightly so for him, the chaos works in his favor. It's going to work to help him win. He wants to show that he can dominate the streets. That's his word. He wants to show his base that when he says he's going to do law and order, he's going to do law and order. It doesn't matter what the justification is. He had to find something just like Barr had to find things yesterday, justify his actions, and he did. But I would go with a, I think it was Stephanie was saying wisely. Maybe all of you have been saying wisely that this is just a warm up. And I agree with you Winston, he's not going to call it military martial law, but it will be martial law in November. And he'll do something outrageous before the election. There'll be the same people or many more people in the streets, and then he'll send the crowd out again, the quote, please, accommodate the streets, and then we'll have a de facto version of martial law or he will lose. He will lose and he will claim that, you know, it's a rigged election and all that. And the same people will go out in the streets. We will have this again, if not then, but before then and then. And so my, my, my real worry here is that we're going to see he's already established for the lack of a good result in that court case. He can go elsewhere. Okay, let me throw out a hypothetical. We have 97 days left until the election. I heard Mayor Durkin from Seattle say, we're playing into his game. And that is, they're allowed to be there to protect federal property. Why are they protecting federal property because the protesters at the front doorstep of these federal sites. So if you're, if you really want to play the, you know, play the game right. So withdraw, go to another site, a non federal site that gives that gives the authority back to the governor and the mayor of each city to say, you have nothing to protect because there's no protesters there. Now, take your bag, grab your bag, get on the bus Gus and get out of here. And you got to do that before the election so that if there is some Machiavellian strategy of Donald Trump here at play, you take that away from them. Absolutely. That'd be a great strategy. It may not work though. No, it's not a great strategy would be totally non violent protest, First Amendment protest, and whoever is behind any one of these protests should try to cast it that way and document it with a footage that it's non violent. And if we have that we have a reasonable argument against him, not to say that he can come up with some other kind of crazy argument to say for example, it's a national emergency, maybe even martial law. He's justified, you know to quell what he considers a disturbance, and it doesn't have to be in front of a courthouse it doesn't have to be violent. It's just a disturbance, you know, against the rule of law in some way he'll, he'll fabricate it and guess William Barr was asked that question yesterday and I'll take this to Cynthia I'll take this to you. He was asked a question about whether you he supported Donald Trump's theory that he has the right to question the election results. And if you remember bars response was maybe depending on depending on the situation. I found that rather disheartening and pretty scary. I found it terrifying because it just shows how much he will lie under oath to Congress and lead us all around by our nose and all of our representatives around by their nose as he plays his oh I'm dumb, kind of, you know, fomaline, whatever, when in reality we know every single thing he says every hesitation, every, everything is planned and calculated, including that. Well, maybe, because then he's wide open to say well, I told you maybe, and now I have the reason. If I could add one thing about these protests that are like you said he will create it. I think Jay said he will create a problem if he doesn't have one. We know that nine tenths of the violence and the rioting and the destruction that has happened has happened because of outside agitators coming in and trying to undermine the message. And that's what they're doing and they're succeeding in it too. Okay, good point. Well, Portland has its own crop. They're not outside there. Portland has a whole crop of anarchists and they've always had them for years and decades so it's a combination of both. And I'm going to switch gears here, Stephanie I'm going to you. COVID mass, they become the new symbol of defiance. They have been a symbol of defiance from many red states that if Donald Trump doesn't feel they're necessary than by gosh or golly, I don't think they're necessary. Bottom line is Donald Trump has always been against mass. He's ridiculed those that would ask questions from from the journalists, he would ridicule his own staff. And now he does a little about face but he's right back to it again where he's not wearing masks. And now he's, he's retweeting what I call faux doctors in lab coats about how masks are useless. And again the reintroduction of hydrochloroquine. So, regarding the mass is it not the same as wearing a mega hat. This, this is a confusing, even more confusing than the disestablishmentarianism that's going on. But I, in the cities, especially Portland, but he has, he's on the surface of all of these things he's only on the surface on everything because he doesn't have any deep knowledge or schema about anything, especially what he said he was going to have it for. But anyway, and that's one of the reasons he's not appreciated by the public because he doesn't have any deep knowledge at all whereas of course Fauci does. The point is that he's on the surface looking for what it will be to stimulate and this disestablish everybody's thinking about things as it comes from him in his powerhouse position. So he's, he's, of course, and this gets into the main point which is he's totally protected at all times, he is constantly protected and checked, and he's safe, he is safe he's walking around in a bubble. Let me let me let me interject something here, if I may, why I mean the polls show that 70% of Americans with be a GOP be an independent be a Democrat. They say that we're not going in the right direction of handling COVID and mass may be the answer to reduce it. Why would he go against a 70% or a 60 a 68% polling that's consistent, showing that he's on the wrong track for how he's dealing with COVID. Why would he do that politically with 97 days with 97 days left in in our election cycle. Well he's not going to be able to say he's wrong ever that will never ever happen. So, his way around that. Yeah. Anyway, the other. Yeah, go ahead, Jane. Go ahead, you know that you know that he's negotiating with the state of Oregon right now. In fact, I think they reached an agreement to pull the federal police out. Okay, and what he does, I mean if you go back to his real estate life in New York, what he does is he takes an outrageous position. He waits for the feedback, and then he adjusts. And I suggest to you, we can see what happens that as we get closer to the election, you're going to see him change these views, you're going to see him try to turn that 70% and look good and try to get 30%. His chance was his chance was last week and he tried it. He tried it he said yeah I don't have anything against anyone wearing mask and that's a good thing and I get tested all the time so you know we have a different rule set for Donald Trump, but he said I think it's a good thing and I think it's probably something people should do. So that was last week and then this week. He is retweeting crazy videos of just the opposite. And why would he do that 97 days before an election when the polls clearly show that people do support the idea of mass for the most part. He can't do it. He can't hold on to a principle or stance. He can't be consistent and he certainly can't admit that he's wrong. So I think that that's established by the niece's book, and of course by all the other analyses and diagnoses of him by many, many experts over time. I'll buy that. I'll buy that because about two shows ago I would I relate a story about HR director years ago told me, Tim, never try to make rational sense of an individual that has no rational sense. I'm going to you Winston if we're dealing with something that's organic as Mary Trump has opined about from direct observation. She's a clinical PhD psychologist and had years of observation. She certainly doesn't suggest it she explicitly states that Donald Trump has organic personality disorders, and that's who we've elected. We try to make sense of what he does and why he does it but doesn't really come down to the fact that he's organically disabled. Well, you know she's a clinical psychologist and his niece so I will defer to her on some expert opinion of from a personal professional nature and I think any casual observation shows you that there's something going on there but even if it's that's the case. He is very easily manipulated by people around him to carry out their agenda. I noticed that what's interesting is that you know you have john you gave wrote a piece in June 22nd article of the national review basically about the DACA ruling of the Supreme Court saying that a president can impose policies without presidential approval even if they violate the laws and now Mr you told the Guardian yesterday that he is talking to the White House about how he will help them bypass Congress to impose their own policies so no matter what those policies may or may not be. I'm seeing a lot of manipulation here by groups wanting to get their people in the in the courts. I don't think Donald Trump has an ideological bone in his body up like Stephanie said the Republican National Committee yesterday endorsed condemning marriage equality for same sex marriage even though this is like three out of five Americans two out of three Americans support this but they have come against this now because that's one of their things abortion is another one. Whatever it is that you think it is that's your issue and you can get it in his ear and that's going to help him it will get advanced so there's a lot of agendas here going on. He's very smart in that he takes the ones that he thinks he can run with and people don't care maybe COVID maybe they're over COVID by now I don't know when he said wear a mask. Suddenly the number of his followers saying wearing a mask was a good idea jumped. So suddenly now it's okay to wear a mask because it came out on Fox News and I again challenge all of you to watch Fox News for 48 hours if as long as you can take it and if you aren't convinced of their arguments by the end of 48 hours or in an insane asylum or need a detox you're not doing it right although there are good and principled people there like Chris Wallace. But you know there's a lot there that is sort of infotainment but you will understand where people are getting their news from and their points of view when you go there or the America one network or who's the fellow in Florida to talk to a Russian one. I mean there's a there's a wide variety to choose from but we need to be paid attention to understand where they're getting their information from what is the agenda and how they're executing it. So, as far as his mental fitness for office. He passed that the cognitive test so I think we're probably safe to go. Okay, thank you Winston. Jay, you have a show tomorrow. I think it's 11 o'clock called Coronaville. Does Donald Trump the administration turn this tanker around as far as how he's being perceived on handling the coronavirus. And is there enough time in the election cycle to make any kind of difference on where the polls are and the perceptions of the American public on his inability to properly address a pandemic and a pandemic that's killed 151,000 Americans. With over 4 million infected cases. Well, and it's going to get worse too. And that 70% could get worse. And it's the biggest issue for sure in this election. On the other hand, the election is his biggest issue. And, you know, he follows he follows the news cycle and he follows public opinion. And he knows about timing and he knows about confusion. So I really think as I said before that he's going to try something. He's going to try a lot of things to manipulate his 30% or 40 whatever it is, and to manipulate the 70 in his favor on the election. I mean that's only one of many ways suppression of course it's another way. But let me offer you this I just saw this morning an article in the Atlantic. It was called something like the reality of the vaccine. And it just ticked off you know what was really happening on the vaccine, and the long road we have and I think sometimes Fauci is maybe too optimistic. It isn't going to be by the end of the year. It's going to be mid next year at the very, very, very best. And then you have all these issues about distribution. Right. And one of the things I found remarkable I know we're almost out of time to leave you with is this this fact that was in that realities of the vaccine article, and I recommend it in in the Atlantic. It said that 20% of the country are anti vax. It said on surveys, they will not take the vax that we're talking about. It's not only confusion it's kind of insanity that's what we have. Well we have people that agree with the Stella doctor Stella Emmanuel that thinks that alien DNA is being intermixed with our virus, you know virus protection and our vaccines. So here you go. Is that 20% of the country that's going to buy off on alien DNA being intermixed with our, our, our cures. I don't know. Oh, but you get the last word on that Jay. And I want to thank everybody. I want to thank you Cynthia Sinclair, Stephanie Dalton, Winston Welch, and Jay Fidel. Thank you for joining us on Trump week. Join us next week, Wednesday, 11 o'clock. Thank you.