 Welcome to Toffy TV, now last week it was revealed that Everton would be consulting not only the people of Liverpool but everywhere really about it, the next part of building, hopefully trying to start building Everton's new ground at Bramley Mordoch. We were in for a meeting last Wednesday with the club where there were a few other people from fans sites and the fans forum and things and basically it was just to try and get all the information, they were just trying to pass all the information over to us so we could help spread the news, it sounded like Frank Sinata don't it, which is good, I really really applaud the club for making that decision and you know as we move forward because as they said to us quite respectfully there's a lot of people who will watch this, who will read NSNO or Granville team who will listen to the blue room or whatever and that's where they'll get their Everton content from, they might not necessarily get it from the club itself or or whatever else and also it was it was also to try and help us get the message out to other people, you know get it you know if we can do some videos with the red men or whoever you know to try and get the try and get it out to people that they want them to feel this this this forming you know it's not just about Evertonians it's about the whole city because as we keep on telling people this is a this is a consultation a public consultation it isn't a fan consultation it's a public consultation that's all great that's all great till the next day when it come out and I'm listening to the phone in on Radio Masyside by Roger Phillips because if you live in Liverpool that's it's always sort of like the best thing to listen to it's a good way of finding out what the ill informed I would say person on the street thinks about something we've had it with the funding and that's where all the funny things came out about the the funding and the stadium was about the the small ships and the tobacco warehouses and and the tax payers paying for the new ground and if he's got all the dough he says he has why isn't he paying for himself and all that and the problem with that was I found was I was listening to it and I brought it in and me and Baz were both listening to it was it was the fact that Roger Phillips doesn't know that much about football right he'll he'll but he knows about Liverpool as a whole and what's going on that's fair play but I don't think he'd had much time to digest the facts he'd hadn't sat down in a room I don't think and had spoken to someone like we had yeah yeah about what was going on and listen when it's a back and forth and there's a room he is and you can all sort of go at something you can ask a question to someone and he'll give you the answer and then you can talk about between yourselves about it and if you haven't listened sometimes you'll hear something and you'll get an idea or something and someone will go no that no that's not right this is how it's happening or you don't know you're scared to ask a question or whatever we got all that was great I didn't feel like Roger Phillips had had all that information so he was putting out a few little sorts of half truths and once people get something to their head about a decision and they think they're right they run with it I know because I do it all the time um so you know we were talking about this way and we were saying we think Everton are missing a massive trick here don't you guys totally totally we've got nobody who we haven't got any kind of spokesman you can wear there is a chief spokesman you can wear there is a chief engagement officer you can wear there is head of communications if you like and I'm not saying Everton don't have a head of communications but they don't have a visible spokesperson that can speak about anything really do you know what I mean there should be somebody there listen we we know Alan May as well Alan Mays was at the club I've known Alan for 20 odd years great fella done that role absolutely brilliantly now the last CEO I don't think he appreciated that much Alan interacted with everybody but we did as fans um but when Alan went he lost that person who would be almost front and centre of everything that needed saying because what people forgetting is yet Everton have replaced Alan in different guys with certain roles that he did but no one's replaced Alan yeah and what I mean by that is Alan would be there for fan stuff he'd be there for football side of it he'd be there business side of stuff he'd be there for public relations side of things going out of fans on a on a number of things now sometimes and a lot of time Alan went above and beyond what he had to do yeah but I'm not saying that the next person that comes in has to do everything Alan did I mean that personally I just get Alan back I just have Alan back and go your front and centre of everything we do yeah he doesn't have to have the role that he did have but he can have that but if but we need somebody and that for me is what we're missing I think you I think Alan did a lot of things that Wayne is job and that's why now it seems like oh we're missing Alan Myers but I don't think the people are doing Alan's job I'm not criticising anybody at the club no that's what I'm saying yeah we're not we're not criticising anyone who's at the club because they've got they've got their own jobs you know the people who do the media side of things and there's people who do the who are you know communications director and things like that Alan took it upon himself to do a lot more and because he's in Evertonian because he loved it and that's why people loved Alan Myers he was doing a lot you know he'd say himself he'd get his iPad out at eight o'clock and then wouldn't come off it for one in the morning and you know would anyone be prepared to do that no I don't think they would but I don't what I was going to say I don't I don't mean that he has to be like for like and those people who are doing all of those jobs that Alan did are doing the jobs to the best of their ability I'm not saying that I'm talking about an actual no I know people's doing them jobs we've got nobody as a spokesperson I think you're right I think I think Everton need certainly for even if it was a short term thing for bramleymore even if it was just for this for getting over to people about how important this is I think with I think with Alan I think it up I'd say a lot of it started when the badge change happened yeah yeah I think that's when because he had to speak to people that's when he started engaging with people and that's when he started going around to people's houses and taking the the designs and that got him in touch with a lot of people who he may not have known before you know we may not have known him and that's when suddenly he had that link and then that's what we need for this I really do I think we need someone who can go on radio shows I think there's someone we need to go on tv shows this is what I was saying at the time we need somebody who is comfortable on camera but knows all the things that are going on so you know what like for instance we've got we've got ambassadors there you know maybe it could be one of the ambassadors or maybe it could be a new ambassador who could just be brought in for this role but it's someone who's who can answer all the questions that knows the answers to all the questions without having to have a look and go well hang on a minute and who's comfortable doing it yeah that's the key there's people we know there's people doing certain roles on bram ni more certain roles around the football club certain those on the playing side who were all doing their job very well but it's someone who's comfortable to go you know what I'll let right what needs saying on that I'll don't do that what needs coping with this I'll do it I'll be on the camera I'm comfortable doing it and that's that's a different thing and I think that marries everything together doesn't have to be he doesn't have to be head of communications or head of bram ni more or head of bloody blah he's just told the figure and it's okay we'll just go into a meeting and sit down and talk about things but obviously I I only know bits and pieces I don't I don't know it don't know I haven't looked at half of the literature on this so it would have been nice for the following day to have had an interview with somebody on this you know we could go through the process it makes for a you know we did a video not long after and you're trying to do a video on something that you only know a little bit about and you're trying to get across what what is going on but it's hard when you've only just got the information and it would have been nice to have got someone to have to someone that could come in the next day there simply isn't anyone available you know the people who are the real people in charge denise barrenbacks and del calling chong no they've been in new york now I I just think that the club needs to have needs to get someone in place who can front this up who can do all those things you can bust all the myths it's not only for me it's not only about bramley mode opeth yeah I think there's it's all everything to do with the club denise barrenbacks and del will have around she's busy she's got her own things to do people who ahead of comes for the stadium are busy doing the other thing people who are doing the football side are busy doing that so it's it you just need someone who's going to go you know what right this is coming up say it was allen frage you mean take just because I know he's done it allen there's this debate on roti phillips on thursday we need you as the everton football club representative to go in your album do you that and fraiddie does a press conference at finch farm and you know marco silver's doing bladi bladden on mondy there's something to do with the event in the community there's just gaps from figureheads people are doing the job great but they might go I don't want to go on camera I'm not good at that I can do my job and I'll do it to the best of my ability and I'm the best person to do it but I don't want to sit down you need someone you need someone with a little bit of charisma who can who can who can front it up who can tell people what they want to what they need to know you know yeah this is what you're having sort of every industry you'll have somebody who that's their job just to go on camera and get the facts over and I think like as you say I think this this is the most important one there's there'll be other things but for this this is something that you really I just say I just kind of be a lot of back and forth but also look at things like people people are messaging dan mice right asking them for stuff all the time dan's probably being told now by the club don't interact don't interact with them just say whatever winks on a nod and all the rest they don't interact with them at all you know and that's fine ever and don't want stuff out you know there's been a lot of stuff said about the stadium in the past where's it come from Joe Anderson right so when people say well they said this and they said that they didn't say at the time it was Joe Anderson who said it after time club didn't say nothing but now the club need to start answering the questions fans have got there was there was last week there was obviously when the announcement people started asking questions why why are we here now why aren't we down the road why aren't we why are we just having the the amount of people that I seen saying why are we having another fan consultation and I was like it's not a fan consultation it's a public consultation and that just that just got with of their anger and won't go and saying it's part of the process look at spares and then they go oh because they just thought it was this fan consultation do you want to move but I was like what what do you want your stadium capacities to be things that and I've said previously I ate all that I'm not interested that's up to you to to sort out but I understand why they're doing a public consultation they want to make sure that everything is is sorted out probably it's rest before we put on that so that's the decision they've made but this should be someone that people fans fans will say things and then they might on twitter they might add it ever and then the person on the end of that twitter thing is not going to answer it but surely they should be someone who between you know six and eight every night will answer those questions that's their job to do I only all once a week or something it's just that to me the best thing about that you can have as a football clubs communication because it can dampen down so many fires if you if you leave a silent someone will fill it and it can be about anything you know this the stadium thing let's be honest right your team players come and go blah blah blah the stadium thing is the biggest thing as fans will be involved in for the next 100 years as a fan base you know because that's hopefully all on they're gonna be there it'll be there long after we've gone so it's a big thing that forever football club it's a mate you think none of us of any age have seen anything like this before in our lives so it needs to be handheld the whole way through but the other thing other side of it is you want the conversation to be ongoing yeah because if the conversation's ongoing you don't forget right so it's like anything else it's like I don't know Americans are going to vote soon and it's all about don't forget to vote register the vote every day they are telling people don't forget to vote register vote is this debate is that debate because it all helps generate and that's what this should be November the 15th it opens to December the 1st and every day everything should be doing something well they might do might me I know it was last week yeah it's not the last week this is almost a week now and there's nothing to fill the gap and now when I'm that's why that's the whole point of our video so breathe and after this one no no they need a spoke for the next four years but this is where it starts right so it's been quiet for a week and okay the club have drip fed little bits and bobs out but they haven't answered any of the questions so I'm seeing people already going what's the point in doing this consultation what's the point in me answering this and yet the club are saying to us we need people to answer this that's the whole point if we get like a few thousand people that then people are going to look at and go do your fans even want a new stadium you know what I mean and that's where the conversation should be I know I have on these road shows and stuff but it starts now on social media you know we've been in the new office space at Godderson at the live buildings and they've got this brilliant little Tony Schmott it's like a little four or five tiered scenery with a big screen and um I mean it's great for playing FIFA and stuff um but why not have why not have the a few fans on there the person we're talking about Denise byrd of backs and dale a couple of cameras do a live stream on youtube bank get it out or Denise byrd of backs and dale this person who we're talking about and someone else and all you have to do is have a hashtag it goes live out on facebook twitter youtube at the same time and you're asking the questions and they're asking and they're trying to answer them why not do stuff why isn't that happening now and don't understand why this stuff isn't happening it's got to be a two-way conversation it can't just be everton fans sitting there going on the 15th you've got to feed you've got to for me it's important this carries on right away till we kick a ball in that stadium no I agree you've got someone who drives the bus who's there going yeah this is where we're up to updates regular updates even if it's not much now Colin Siong might give regular updates but he's not comfortable in front of the camera and he can only say it's where you put them as well isn't it it's no point sticking them on a blog on this new website that people don't know anything about because you're not having the conversation about that website you know it's the people's project I don't top my head I don't know what that website is top my head I know whatever this website is it you know fc.com I don't know what this website's called okay so what is it people dash project people project people.com people.co okay what is it say there you go he doesn't know I don't know it I should know it but I don't know it will be sure because it hasn't been well I haven't had calls to that's what I'm saying these are the these are the questions I think people will be asking I'm just looking for but even if it's even if they're not questions you want them asking those questions you want people every single day so that come the 15th in November it's a big thing it's a big thing that loads on this well it has to be what about the what about the fans that are not in the little area they keep on asking that we seeing on our comments and any more I've been an ever fan for so many years I live here will I be allowed to take part I think you will be but I've had no I've had no official confirmation I wish do you know what I'll be brilliant if there was someone we could ask and that's that's the whole point I think of this is that was saying is that if there was somebody an official person it was a great job to answer all these questions that could come on toffy tv that could go on as a guest on the blue room on radio city talk on radio maesiside going out of reports give them five minutes if they're if they're the next player I'm sure sky sports would give them five minutes if it meant you know the stadium and what you know the performance at the weekend or something don't know what what it is there you go can't find you've looked and you can't find it I'll find it in a minute but that's the whole point that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying people now can be dare I say lazy because everything's put on a plate everything's put on a plate for them and that's what I'm saying you could have you could have a you could have a guy every night for 10 minutes from the live of buildings you could do it honest to god it's not that hard it's not that hard to put live stuff out it really isn't you can put live stuff out on youtube facebook and twitter like that with the bare minimum bare minimum I could do it on my phone I could do it on my phone if I wanted to it's easy and that's where I'm and I'm hoping there's someone from the club watching this I really am because I think the message has got to get through that you if you want fans to communicate with you you've got to start communicating with the fans and that means getting someone in place you can do that because at the moment we're not we're just not seeing it and I think it's for everything I think it helps it helps everything we're trying to build not just bramley more you know trying to get the connection back the players and the fans of the connections back marco silver has fostered that myself brands the players we've seen a fantastic stuff that's gone on last week with Evan in the community with the lad the players going on the tour of the city it's quite unrivaled for me unrivaled knit it all together knit it together with someone who's the chief engagement officer or the the head of cons or a chief spokesman at everton or whoever someone who's your face who you go listen that's the person you go to with the question about everton the thing about it is that this could be someone who already works at the club and for this period on its own you could elevate that person to go do me a favour right for the next six weeks this is going to be your job you're going to be the spokesman for this thing you know and that's it that's it you know and then I don't need a pair no I do but what I'm saying is what I'm saying is but that's the start somewhere of course and if you start it with this and then you find that they might be comfortable in and then you find that it's something that you do the club by looking at we don't we don't we don't we don't need that but I think for this particular thing I think we do need it and then let's see what grows out of that I mean we are it's mad because the fact the club as good as they can be at times the thing that we I think most fans will say is that everyone loved that time on that alarmise and yet the club for some reason have been dead with the lockdowns to go back to that fine it's it's it was it was maybe it was a novelty thing maybe it was a gimmicky thing maybe it was just something shorting that worked and maybe it wouldn't it doesn't it works when things are going good and maybe it doesn't work when things are good but do you know what fine that's up to the club that's their project but I think for this particular project get someone in place because there's questions that need answering and there's a debate that needs fueling and only someone a figurehead that you can rely on can do that I don't expect any spider backs and del you know to be front and centre on this I don't expect calling John to be front and centre I don't expect damn nice I don't expect the people working behind the scenes to to do that either they've all got their own jobs I appreciate all that but it just needs someone to come forward and just be like I'll answer that no you go round the garden you see the people with the sachets that say happy to help the equivalence of that person to help with this and then we don't need a session no I'd like the sash yeah all right be good be good let's go with that that was good let's go do you have it let us know your thoughts in the comments do you agree with this is something you'd like to see someone in place to answer all your questions and also get rid of all wouldn't it be great if there's someone sat on Roger Phillips and someone rings up some beta copied and and he just has all his points thrown back in his face wouldn't that be fantastic to me instead of just like you know yeah having a free shot at us and then like we've seen everywhere else at the moment in the world you say something enough the lie becomes truth so let's have it let's have it right let's get someone in place and let's say you know start getting the facts out there that is now anyway thanks for watching we'll see you later