 anticipated Biden would fall and he's falling however what I'm concerned about is the pace that he's falling he's not falling fast enough and I'm getting worried now I think he's gonna make it to Iowa he's gonna stick around can he still win in your opinion because at first I pretty much I said the odds of him winning you know it were irrespective I was gonna say irregardless that's not a word irrespective of polling data you know it was relatively low now even though he's going down and he's making like 152 gaps per week another number I just cited but I like that number let's we'll stick with that do you think he can win because I I don't know I feel like he's probably not gonna win but at the same time you know at the back of my mind it's a possibility that I don't necessarily think we should rule out I'm with you I I would not be shocked I'll put it that way I do can it terrifies me frankly there are three people who just well there's a bunch that terrify me but Joe Biden just I don't want to go to war with seven more countries and he's like I don't feel like you should be able to have access to like the war button you know if you can't even remember where you were or remember the name Barack Obama that kind of wrap rock Obama my my boss like that and I don't want to be ableist you know and in a way you kind of do sound that way when you talk about him you know but it's it's about whether or not he's competent and he's not it turned from you keep your hands off with people you're a warmonger to oh my god he literally thinks things happen that never did and he's for getting people's names that he's dropped 20 million times like it's scary and anyone who like a poly you know is apologetic for that is kind of I don't know maybe shouldn't be able to vote it's okay it's horrifying and I'll say this this is the point that I made like it's to the point now we're just on a human level like I feel bad for Biden like you know forget the fact that he's a former vice president he's powerful he has money whatever from a human standpoint it is difficult to see someone mentally deteriorate like it's sad to watch you know because I mean I don't necessarily hate Joe Biden I think he has absolutely egregious policy positions but just you know from the standpoint of him being a human it's it's tough to watch I don't I don't like to see that like my dad has dementia he has early onset dementia so to see that you know politically it's like you know I know firsthand that this is someone who and I'm not diagnosing Biden before people call me a conspiracy theorist I'm just saying mental deterioration you know it's we all see it we all see it you know what I mean so I won't speculate and say that he has x y and z conditions I'm just saying it's tough to see him lose his ability to articulate himself this isn't me saying Biden is stupid it's me saying that you know this is a medical issue you know and I think that you brought up a good point about not being able is because I think that you know progressives have actually done a really commendable job at handling this in a way that isn't you know we're not just trying to shit on Biden for purposes of political expediency we can we don't have to criticize him for that his policy positions are easy you know they're a big enough target but to see this first of all it's sad second of all can you imagine the field day that Republicans will have with this and I'm not one to say oh well imagine what the Republicans will do because technically they can make that same argument about Bernie they can say oh well they're gonna call him a socialist and a communist but I mean Trump is already like saying is this man fit to be president and if Donald Trump can persuasively make that argument when we can see you know his brain melting out of his ears then there's there's gonna be an issue in the general and it's just I see and I've said this would lose absolutely would lose to Trump I agree literally bet like every penny I own which granted is not much of anything but if I had like a million dollars I would bet it that bought in would lose so when you hear people like oh you know we got to get rid of Trump we got to get rid of Trump then why are you propping up Biden because you can pretty much guarantee Trump even Biden's own wife made a video oh yeah Joe might not be the best on health care but he can beat Trump first of all didn't you say Hillary could beat Trump don't just don't you don't know what you're talking about you don't know we the people know we see who is gonna get out there and vote and he doesn't excite people he is not bringing people to the polls he is a male Hillary he does not excite people he may be worse than her actually like I think he's probably politically to the left of Hillary slightly but like he's there's no like there's no reason to be excited even with Hillary there was that you know aspect of well this could be the first woman president that in and of itself alone you know in a vacuum is good that's that's exciting I guess you know it's it's nice to see history there's nothing there for Joe Biden and I love that you brought up his wife if my wife said something like that about me I would drop out that is such a horrible endorsement where you essentially admit I'm a doctor you may not like his health care policy it's kind of shitty but you know if you want to be Trump then you have to vote for him of course the that's what that's just what you do you vote for the person who's polling high enough but I'm with you there in terms of him losing I would say that he probably has the worst shot at Donald Trump although it I think that it's really too early to predict this is my read on it and correct me if you think I'm wrong here I think his chances are 5050 and the reason why I say that is because Joe Biden and I was thinking about this because currently his strategy as we all know is to hide right don't get in front of the cameras too much because that drives down your favorability in the general election the way that he could pull this off is he can hide and Barack Obama can come out and this will be Obama you know 3.0 for example so that's the only way I can see it but even in that scenario if Barack Obama is like on the campaign trail 100% of the time it's still not going to be a foregone conclusion this will be a difficult race and even if Bernie is the nominee I'm not going to say he's guaranteed to win you know it's still going to be our best chance but what we need is you know for these people who are basing their entire vote on that electability argument to wake up and realize that we are on the Joe Biden Titanic that is sailing straight into an iceberg and we're going to get former years of Donald Trump and worse 30 years of you know a strong solid conservative majority on the Supreme Court which absolutely you know gives me nightmares that we're looking at a reversal of LGBTQ rights deregulation to you know a hyper late-stage capitalist level the repeal of Roe v. Wade it's it's terrifying this isn't a time to roll the dice like we are on the cusp of extinction quite literally you know we're we're facing an apocalypse Joe needs to drop out and he's already lost several times I mean like why are you letting him run again for crying out loud at what point is his family not say listen we gave this a good run right because it's like you are I don't know how old he is he's like 70 or 80 and whatnot and like Bernie's different than Bernie yeah I'm like at least he still has his faculty and Bernie has more energy than me so it's like if Bernie were in that position it would be more difficult to make the case for for him but with Joe Biden it's like I just feel like it's it's almost it's cruel to like make him do this and I'm sure that this is his doing it's not like his family is like pushing them in front of a camera and saying run Joe but you know at some point you have to intervene and say look it's not it's not gonna happen let's just enjoy life we're rich let's buy another mansion let's sail on our yacht you know let's enjoy our life and spend time with our grandchildren I mean I just I don't I don't get it and I really you know I don't understand the people who are Democratic Party loyalists who are pushing him because if you truly hate Donald Trump this is just idiotic to push Joe Biden at this point