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Here comes the show the boys are back Systems ago God it feels so good to have us all back together in the studio right now Oh puts me in such a better mood Is it just dude Justin look a buffer or something? I mean, you know, it's just it's an optical illusion I think we just got smaller. We lost some muscles I didn't want to say that. Yeah, welcome back. It has a feel to be back in the In the house here. It's in the eye of the storm in here, man. Missed you guys. I know it's way better in here I mean, I hate being remote to you. That's lame. Yeah, like yeah. Oh, hey, I'm all way over here Everybody else is having a good time doing a bunch of housework and stuff Dogs barking like every two seconds, you know kids, you know like hey dad. Where's this? I'm busy. Yeah, I'm working I'm supposed to be working. Yeah. No, it's good to have you back, dude. Very nice to have you back Yeah, so Adam we should talk about the the study the intermittent fasting study. Oh that Lane posted about yeah Interesting. Yeah really interesting to me. Yeah, so basically they Compared three different groups, but the two groups that were important to look at were the there was a continual caloric restricted group and then there was a group that every other day fasted yeah, and Essentially, they ate the same amount of calories throughout the week, right? So one group had a calorie deficit. I think it was 75% of maintenance every single day The other group would eat a hundred and fifty percent of their calories one day in the next day not eat any calories at the end of the week Similar same calorie the week the calorie deficit was the same between the two groups The only difference was one was not eating every other day, and then the other one was consistently Lower than maintenance. Yes, and what they found was that the every other day fasting group lost muscle whereas the continual caloric restricted group lost almost all body fat So they lost similar amounts of weight. Yeah, but the every other day not eating interesting resulted in some and muscle loss Which I think is very interesting pretty significant to very significant. I was like 50% Yeah, yeah, and now he makes a good point that and this is true The human body doesn't really have a good way of storing Amino acids and protein right so we could store body fat That's pretty limitless. We could store glycogen from carbohydrates There's there's a limit to that but you actually had a pretty good store in your liver and in your muscle that you can utilize But we don't really store amino acids And so the theory is is that because they didn't feed their body's protein every other day Because we don't store it in a way to where we can utilize it the body pared down muscle So very interesting. Yeah, no, I mean it's Well, I also think that and I know they did a really good job of the controls right to tease out Like all the other potential variables. Yeah, but we just talked the other day about how you know We were talking about getting over from being sick and that our body types are the type that man if I don't eat I did I lose 10 pounds I can pretty much guarantee that half of that is muscle and half of it is just body fat It's just that's just the nature of the beast with my body type But then I brought up the my the ex-girlfriend that I had that was the opposite of that It felt I felt like she could starve her body Overtrain and under-consume for extended periods of time and the weight that she would just hang on to all her muscle So you got a thing that they're still even with this study and as good as a control That is there's still gonna be an individual variance of people that still there's always got a factor Yeah, we'll respond really well with that and I feel like you if you're the group that would probably lose half Muscle and half body fat you kind of probably know who you are like I think that you're the type of person where you can relate to that So when I shared that the other day that hey if I don't eat and I are under-consume. I'm sick Whatever, I don't exercise a week goes by and I lose 10 pounds I can pretty much guarantee half of that is is muscle mass too if you can relate to that then This is probably this study to me speaks to you I would assume it's more often people like that than the kind that just keep muscle on that's pretty rare I remember one guy used to work for me. He was a porter at Hillsdale and He just was he was always jacked he always just looked super jack all the time and I started to become friends with him and When I saw his diet I actually thought he was full of crap because this is no joke the guy would eat like peanut butter and jelly sandwich Or a meal would be french fries or a pop tart like I had the worst diet of all time He worked out super inconsistently and just was jacked all the time and then he went through a period where I Convinced him to take a protein shake like bro increase your protein. Let's just see what happens But I mean that's rare right most people are not like that Yeah And I got I got DMs about this study like people always like to ask us because we've talked about the we've talked about Intermittent fasting and I think that for the most part for the most part we're fans of it How you use it and so they were asking what my opinion or what I thought about and I said It doesn't change anything for me as far as my view of intermittent fasting because I think from the very beginning We've talked about the reason that you should do it is more for the the spiritual practice or the Relationship with food. Yeah, which that doesn't change No, that that doesn't change this study doesn't change at all now If you were somebody who was trying to use fasting as a tool to get shredded and get lean This probably should change the way you look at it. Absolutely, but we've I said we've talked out about that for a long time That that's a terrible idea is to use fasting in that manner and where it has the most value is the relationship with food And so that doesn't change. No, I know I totally agree. I think if you're fasting to get shredded or fasting to Look different you're then you're you're encouraging or at least you're putting yourself in a situation where you could probably develop a Bad relationship with food. Now. Here's the other thing. Here's another part to it, right? Let's talk physiologically for some people Fasting improves their health above and beyond Calorie restriction. Who are these people? The people that come to mind are people with gut issues. Now. This is me, right? So I on and off you guys know I deal with gut issues it's always something that I have to kind of keep in mind and Sometimes the only thing that improves my gut health is to not eat for you know, 48 hours Give my gut a break reduce the inflammation, you know, maybe that things settle down now in the case where fasting is the the one option that improves your health Then it's probably better for muscle growth for you than to be less healthy It would be for me, right? So if my option is terrible gut health or I don't eat for two days Which one is going to be better for yeah, but don't you think this study proves though that? You don't have to actually fast to get that same benefit. You could just stay in a low cow No, not for not for gut health. That's not a state So I bet if you took a bunch of people who deal with gut health issues people with irritable bowel syndrome People with inflammatory gut issues then I think it would look a little bit different I don't know if I agree with that I feel like the research that like Valter Longo did and stuff about the fasting mimicking diet would show that you know If you were running a 500 calorie diet for a week or two weeks You would get the same gut health benefits as the person who's decided to eat nothing He's he studied cell autophagy the anti-cancer effects and it is very similar 500 calories and not eating is pretty close and also what he's giving people to eat is our foods that are like super Nonreactive and that's it to me. That's an extreme analogy for I'm sure the studies and testing they did like that I personally feel as long as I'm in a good size deficit. I feel those benefits I again, this is my personal experience On how I view it But it seems like the research is pointing that direction too though that if you were to just run a very low calorie diet You would get the same gut health benefits. Yeah, I mean it depends. Look, there's times when it's so bad for me That it's nothing. I have to eat nothing depends how reactive you are. Yeah, it's also easier, right? so if you're if you don't know what's causing bad gut health and What what foods could possibly potentially be flaring you up by eliminating everything you you're pretty much Covering all your bases where if you eat a very low calorie 500 to 900 calories You may still be consuming that that that offender that that you don't know about or well So I could see that plus I you know I think we can sometimes we run into issues when we live and die by studies because we can sometimes ignore You know, what's what's working well for us or like, you know, I know this works great for me But the study says that I should try this and then they do it and then they don't feel good for whatever reason But they stick to it because while I read this study, there's always outliers. That's all I'm saying There's always out. Oh, yeah, I mean there that that study doesn't take into consideration behaviors, right? Is it easier for somebody because That's all control right in a study but in real life is it easier for somebody to Consistently measure their calories every single day and say hey, I'm gonna take 75% of my maintenance every day Or is it easier for some say hey every day. I'm just not gonna eat Yes, you know I'm saying and which one is more likely to be are you more likely to be consistent with so there are other Variables that I think that you could challenge, but I mean man it to see half muscle And half body fat loss. That's that's pretty significant now my experience when I do long fast I definitely lose a little bit of muscle size, but it comes back really quick when I go back to eating So that's the other part too is that you know That's a good point and and that's something that this time how many times does that happen this study has doesn't and we've talked about this before, right? of about You know fasting and then kind of resetting and then the way your body just responds to like protein afterwards Yeah, I mean could you make the case that sure you you may lose a little bit of muscle, but because you've You know resensitize your more protein by purging for for a full day like that now your body responds Maybe even more positively to the protein like I don't know Exactly speaking of studies. I read this great article on aspirin so and so I've been reading a lot about aspirin because I'm gonna be taking low-dose aspirin probably for the next few months just because when you read about the Potential effects of the bat soup disease long-term. It's usually related to like blood clotting Corona Yeah, and so it's you know a baby aspirin every day. It's 81 milligrams really small dose You know reduces risk of blood clotting and all that stuff Anyway, there was a lot of you know, there's a lot of health benefits that have been proven by taking a little bit of aspirin every day I'm gonna read some of these to you because They're pretty remarkable and I wasn't really familiar with some of these recommended so often And I didn't know if it was like a blood pressure related or like what all these other benefits were to it Well here check this out. There's a study out of Australia that showed that people who used aspirin at least twice a week for five years Reduce the risk of skin cancer by 60 percent. Whoa people who use that every day for five years saw a reduction of 90 percent From from taking that it also of course we talk about heart disease It does show a dramatic reduction in heart attacks and vascular effects probably because it you know Thins the blood free radical damage another one It looks like it could help with mitochondrial function at low doses of course fights inflammation And then it reduces the risk of colon cancer and a lot of people now if it's that positive Why hasn't this become something that's like a multi vitamin that everybody just takes because the because of its blood thinning effects It can cause gastric bleeding in some people. It's very dangerous Some people are also can be allergic to aspirin so there's not it doesn't have I mean let's say you tease those two things out I mean then there are the rest all positive benefits I mean so far from what I reading yes Now you know it's standard of care when you have like a stint put in right So if you go to the house you go to the doctor and they see that oh you got you know partial blockage Let's put a stint in there. They will put you on a baby aspirin every day, which again That's 81. It's funny. I wrote baby aspirin on my Instagram people like they sell Aspirin for babies like no, it's just a low dose Bubblegum flavor that you take every single day, but but yeah, so I'll be doing that for the next few months Just because of you know what what we kind of got over just to kind of be short, you know careful or whatever It almost seems like you should do it no matter what even if you weren't I mean it unless you have those two Conditions that you brought well all those other I'm see I'm weary about that because all those effects I think you can get from Maintaining good omega-3 fatty acids in your diet So like fish oil so fish oil shows a lot of similar effects and it also has a blood thinning that dramatic ninety percent No, not that dramatic, but I mean I'm always worried taking like I don't know if I want to take because you know aspirin I said it can increase gastric bleeding and can cause other issues, so I don't know I'm gonna do a little bit more reading, but it's fascinating. I don't know I mean, it's one of the oldest drugs that's been around forever I think it's been around for how many decades and is it because it's so because it's not because it's so small amount that the Adverse effects to your liver is not up there that wouldn't be considered. Yeah, that's another one every single right Cuz I mean I'd be profan's a little more harsh on on your liver, right? Yeah, and in 81 milligrams is a really low dose of aspirin, but you know what that's true They also said if you don't have if you have like a liver enzymes are a little off or your kidneys aren't great function They don't recommend Taking it on a regular basis. So I don't know it's kind of weird and then along those lines dude I read a crazy stud a crazy article about a girl who she was at a party and They were all doing they're all taking LSD. So, you know, we've been talking about like psychedelic research And so that's what went down this rabbit hole, right? There was this this party where they were dosing themselves with LSD, but somebody like Miss, you know, did made a mistake on the decimal point. So instead of taking a hundred micrograms or whatever a single dose is They took like a thousand. Wow. So this girl ended up taking Something like a hundred and fifty doses. Whoa of LSD at once. Oh my god. Yeah, so here's what happened This is the weird part. First of all LSD is did her mind die and then resurrect Well, so it's very non-toxic. It's pretty hard to overdose and kill yourself From LSD or even magic mushrooms contrary to what we were taught in dare when we were kids. Yeah Dude, I actually Nancy Reagan was really hammered. I actually had a teacher tell us that that This one girl there was one guy took too much LSD and thought he was an orange and sat in the corner I was scared if someone was gonna squeeze it like that. She told us this crazy story We were told to jump in front of trains I'm serious like that was what we were I like vividly remember like that story and that Memory come with this like a briefcase and you open the briefcase Oh, I remember that yeah, and then the briefcase would have all the different drugs Yeah, and then you go through and they tell stories of each one and how they affect people and I remember LSD Be like be oh my god that one will make you jump in front of trains say yes to your life and when it comes to drugs and alcohol Just say no Yeah, thinking that as a kid you know which one fat and I'll get back to what happened to this girl But you know sorry what fascinated me the most when they would do that were the stories of PCP. Oh Yeah, because they they would say oh it took ten officers superhuman strength. Oh, yeah, yeah secretly There's part of you that one. Are you kidding? Yeah, I'm gonna do one of these. I might try that one. I was obsessed with the incredible Hulk and he man And I want to be strong and I'm like yeah, why are they withholding this must PCP made you a straight of as strong as ten men Hmm working. Yeah, where would you find this crazy never so I've been around most drugs I don't think I've ever seen or seen anyone do PCP before have you guys my dad. I should hope not what my dad had it Not him. Oh, you're like, yeah, my dad used to do it The bathroom yeah, you know sprinkling my dad had a so he used to own a You know tile and marble setting company and one of his employees actually showed up to work On PCP No, I mean throwing all kinds of stones on his back Yeah, I got this no my dad said he was acting really weird And then he was taken off all his clothes because he was really hot and then they had to send him home and you know They ended up firing the guy or whatever, but yeah, that's it No, there was no violence or anything like that involved But that's only the only time I've ever heard of any and you know that because how did you guys find out? It was PCP isn't the guy might I mean the guy respected my father so he apologize. Yeah, I'm sorry You know I have this drug problem. Yeah, I've never been around it. Have you know no, I can't say I have yeah It's got bad. Definitely cocaine. Yeah, what about you? Do you go to the restaurant in the air? No, I actually no no There it's got bad PR. It's like PCP and crack those are the two drugs that just they got bad He's like the cheaper versions of that PR. They do It doesn't sound cool or like cocaine sounds. Oh, yeah, if you're rich or whatever Luxurious smoke crack what the hell's wrong with you know same thing with PCB anyway this girl Does a hundred and fifty doses at once and she was a she had bipolar disorder Oh, so she's got yes some condition going into this. Yes, so this is what happened So she does this and obviously loses her mind acts erratic at one point She's on the floor and it looks like she might be having a seizure. They can't figure out what's going on anyway, her dad they call her dad he picks her they take her to the hospital and In between her weird trips, which lasted I remember how long she said to her dad It's it's fine. It's over. It's gonna it's this is the end and he didn't know what she was talking about You know what? She so here's what she was referring to her bipolar. She her bipolar disorder Oh, she comes out of it and room and had It like no symptoms breakthrough. Yeah, no symptoms of bipolar disorder anymore after that crazy now I'm not I don't want anybody to go Yeah, but how weird is that that's I mean that's really crazy because okay So I actually got into this new series on Netflix. It was it's about the whole MK ultra You know experimenting. What's it called? You know, I don't remember but I mean you can look it up. Doug But like so there was it's from the perspective of the son of one of the agents in the CIA who actually like they said jumped out the window but Later that they also said fell out the window and then there was all this like Accidentally and there's all these like conflicting reports of like what actually happened And they wouldn't say specifically who it was because he was an agent and something went wrong with the experiment And so I think it was like 20 years or something of the family not knowing what happened to their dad And then this poor kid like grows up He has a traumatic experience that his dad died and like nobody's telling him what really happened And so like he's kind of go investigating and eventually You know, he basically like pin points it down to like a failed experiment that the CIA was conducting and they had to actually come forward with it and Figure out how to deal with it because it was all becoming public and he's out there talking about it And the CIA is like oh no like like how we're gonna handle this it turns out they actually had had to go get the president to Apologize to them personally which then stopped them from suing the CIA. Wow. And so anyways, this whole thing I just got into the very first episode and it's a whole series of this is a warm one Yes, wormwood. Oh, give me the give me the basic skinny on what the the conspiracy around MK ultra It's Messed with a lot of people Psychedelic drugs to see if there was potential for Brainwashing or controlling people's minds that the this was around the Cold War time Yes, Cold War is the information war So they basically assumed that the Soviets were using these techniques and then they use that as an excuse to basically mess with US citizens, you know inside here in the state to see basically to see like if it's possible could they and this was this Military was doing this CIA was doing the CIA was doing this Yeah, here's the thing people need to understand during the Cold War and we totally forget right how crazy it was Literally you had two countries with thousands of nukes pointed at each other and so all bets were off any idea That sounded like it might help us survive a nuclear holocaust or kill or not, you know, the Soviets not, you know destroy us They I mean there was literally there was 100% This was signed off by the Joint Chiefs of Staff only reason why it didn't happen We because the president said no there was I can't remember the name of it was operation Northwoods thing was called they actually came up with the plan to stage terrorist attacks in Florida And blame it on the Cubans to gain public support to invade Cuba Because they you know because Russians had Cuban, you know, we're putting their missiles in Cuba, right? So it was a joint it was to signed off by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They were like this good idea Let's pretend there's terrorist attack blame it on the Cubans, and that's where there's checks of balances Come on, dude. It's terrible. It's crazy. And then with MK ultra. They actually I think they took a bunch of I want to say Either prostitutes or men that went to brothels. I think it was men that went to brothels So they took a bunch of they found in San Francisco that they actually uncovered. Yeah So they found a brothel right illegal prostitution Yeah, and then the guys that went there didn't know that their water had LSD in it Mm-hmm, and they just observe Let's just see you know what happens and and of course the way that they cover their tracks is like these guys aren't gonna report They went to a brothel. So yeah, no, it's gonna say shit happened It's they record all those interactions and yeah, and they just I again like I'm gonna have to get further into the series to get Specific. Oh, is this series get into that too? I don't know. I think it goes I think it goes in that direction because well it so it's interesting because it goes from the perspective of this kid and his family like You know him not knowing what his dad did completely for a living And so they're kind of like retracing all those steps like he was part of the bio Engineering, I think department and or a chemical engineering like he was part of like the whole biochemical Experimentation stuff and and so like it went horribly wrong for him And and so he's kind of telling it and then they're dramatizing it so they had like this whole thing where They they show the agents all dramatized like Trying to figure out, you know, how they're gonna keep this under wraps and then Setting each other up like with so they're all toasting with drinks And then he basically dosed like all the agents and all the agents start tripping out and You know, because there's some of them that are like, oh, this is pseudo science nonsense And we shouldn't you know fund money towards this experimenting and you mean while there's like just all of a sudden, you know The paint starts peeling, you know, you know what terrified them They did this one test where they took a bunch of soldiers in a mock like battle and then didn't tell the soldiers and gave them all LSD and the reason why they got terrified was because the soldiers stopped and just they just like I don't want to do this anymore So sit here and they're like flowers. What's the meaning of life. Yeah, they're just like, oh, we've been doing this Like we should love each other. Yeah, no one's gonna want to kill anymore if we give it like that and it freaked them out Yeah, crazy. I watched your recommendation last night your snake eyes Yeah, I mean, I thought it was really good. I have to say though. I mean, I was pretty baked last night too though If someone goes back and watches and be like Adam, I can't believe you recommended that I mean, I thought it was it was it was it didn't get very good rating first of all So I was like a little wary about watching it, but then I know you recommended so I was like, I'll watch it Yeah, and again, if I'm if you're really stoned, it's probably even more entertaining So that was I mean last night was my first time smoking in like weeks since everything. So oh, yeah How'd you feel? Well, I mean it felt amazing because I did I think it didn't take very much at all And I didn't have that much I didn't think it was gonna hit me like that and then I got up to get a drink of water one time And it's like I was like, oh, oh wow that was So my taste buds are coming back and I did I did actually have a big old massive bowl of magic spoon last I'm still on the blueberry with banana cake right now. Have you tried the maple waffle? Yeah, the maple waffle I haven't had it yet. So I haven't had the maple waffle yet. I remember I still I'm still powering through my Like 85 boxes I'd say about 50% You know what I was thinking actually I wonder what this because they're it's obviously got a long shelf life, right? Cuz it's dry or cereal. That's probably up on it, right? Absolutely That's probably good like emergency food, right? Sure. One of the problems was storing with emergency food is getting protein You know, it's like how do you say, you know, it's a canned tuna and then you know, what else are you gonna spam plan for the apocalypse? Yeah, yeah, your next commercial It's so funny and that's like all manipulation like like so we were trying to sell off our generator You know what I'm like, should we throw in there that oh, there might be more lockdowns No, now you're being one of those creepy, you know people that like sell it on fear But it's old so it'll work. Did you watch the new suicide squad Justin? I need someone else to bro I need to do that for just for you to see if I can validate Because I know he's guys. Yeah, okay. They're done with I feel like dog and eyes word is enough No, I got like 15 dm's from people who said you guys are crazy Well, you are like you smell in your own farts with your fucking phone, bro They're all you're falling always. Hey, just so you know a pretty little argument with you Adam You're so right We'll do a YouTube poll, okay? Obviously like fucking South I Because they're all my followers. I know they're on my side. You know I'm saying run tomatoes ranked it People that the follow me, you know are up with your recommendations. Yeah, I want them do a comparison. Yeah, I'm somewhere Yeah, sometimes, you know like especially the sci-fi stuff. I'm down. I I keep getting super excited about that foundation series that's gonna come out on Apple because Drop I think it's later in the fall, but there's there's quite a few movies. I think Dune's coming out soon Yeah, you know and then I want to watch Will Smith will Smith. They did it. He did a What do you call that not a biographer is it by not a biography where he's like he's the he's Serena Williams dad So it's called. I want to say like what's it called Andrew? Maybe you got movie No, no, no, no the name of the movie is like the the king or something like that I don't remember what the the title of it You wouldn't guess what it's about by the title or at least I wouldn't be able to guess based off the title But will Smith is is playing their their father and they I guess they have a really cool story. I'm not familiar with Richard King Richard Hey, thank you speaking of genetics to those sisters man are jacked. Yeah What's cool though from the preview? It sounds like they had a crazy story So like as far as like, I mean, yeah, genetics sure play some role But man, he had them training like crazy Yeah, you know what the problem with that place where they actually had the cops like called on him for like Yeah, you know what the problem with that is is that a lot of parents see that and they're like, oh I'm gonna make my champion by no destroying their lives, you know I think like one out of a thousand times you'll hit that special, you know Tiger Woods or Serena Williams or Venus Williams You know interesting to see too if you had them play multiple sports instead of specializing so early and see what a difference That would have made versus them just like, you know, really trying to specialize and you know Just work on the skill itself of tennis versus like diversifying that yeah, that starts gymnastics tomorrow Oh, does he really nice? I mean at his age. I think it's like mostly tumbling. I think that's a role Yeah, I think they just get him to body awareness and stuff Yeah, but I'm excited to get him in there and just kind of interacting with the other kids and see if he's like if He can't promote it enough. It's just done so much to transform especially upper-body strength and just Athleticism in general and just body awareness is just totally transformed like both my kids So that's been really cool. I can't wait to like throw them in another sport But again, it's really good for him. So I'm like I'm trying to enjoy it. Well, I'm excited He's I mean, this is all happening in this next week. What's that? What's the age limit? The young so he's the youngest yet to some places won't even take him at to really yeah Some places they got to be three and above or four and above But we found a place that would take him at two But like I said, they basically and same thing with like his swim lessons stuff So he's got he's starting the gymnastics and swim and Montessori school all next all next week. Everything's all coming at once Oh, that's a lot. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm excited to see how that all that all goes Did you guys know that these guys know the history on Montessori schools like how it how it started and when it came from No, yeah, that was interesting So it would yeah, I forget the name of the girl's name. It's Montessori is in her name, right? So that's where come the name of it comes from But the original research was actually around like special needs kids and it's all sensory Teaching so, you know, because they were special needs kids They use tools and things to educate with them And so like a lot of the stuff that we get recommended for him I posted a video on it the other day actually on the the main thread of he's got like all these little kits Where there's like, you know these round like wet slimy balls and like chunky dirt and you're and you're teaching them And they're also supposed to be feeling with their hands and it's the tactile Yeah, the sensory education what it does to the brain as far as speeding up the process of them learning whatever this thing and that and it Was originally for the special needs kids and that to try and progress them to catch them up to like normal kids They actually had so much success with it that they began to apply it to just kids that weren't behind And to see if it would actually progress Heard good things cool what they do. Are you gonna put your son in music? Oh? Eventually, yeah, yeah, the first thing is just he seems like he's got a propensity. Yeah. No, I mean, that's we're You know what didn't look like it's gonna be basketball or football or baseball or the things that I was trying You know that not initially do it at all changes. I know Yeah, what you got stories of kids though. I mean you just see you see some kids They just they pick they gravitate towards that because I don't force it right? It's all there, right? So he definitely gravitates towards music and he's since the very beginning I mean, I've told you guys that that he was interested in music videos that hasn't changed. He's still like that He you just gravitate. I mean, I'm just excited for him to be into something I think as a dad like that's what you want to see and like and I think the thing that I was so excited as a dad To have that opportunity to see something early and then promote it because that was something I always always said that I was you know again back in the days when I used to Feel sorry for myself and resent the way I was raised one of things I used to always get frustrated with is that my parents didn't like all the things I found I found way later in life Because I pursued and I found and oh I like this and then I went after and those so most of that stuff was like You know after teenage years and beyond and I'm always thought like man I wish my parents would have introduced this to me when I was little I wish they would introduce that to me and I could have been so much better if I was doing it since I was little So I'm just excited to find something that he's interested in and then help foster that and grow it and see where he goes with it You know right now Aurelius is obviously he's only nine months old, but he's super into food. That's what he's really We I mean the kid if you'd like you know what his favorite thing to eat is so Jessica will make a tri-tip And she'll blend some of it. So it's all you know, you know broken up into tiny tiny pieces and then she'll cook squash like spaghetti squash or What the other name of the squad acorn squash and then she'll blend that like cook it blend that and then mix them together and add a Little olive oil so this kid's eating like a protein like his favorite thing to eat and he literally I Have to stop feeding him because I'm like this isn't I don't think how are you gonna hold all this and he just keeps going And then he gets angry so I'll feed him and he's and he gets excited like if I put in his mouth He's like he gets like this aggressive excitement and I'm laughing like wow all right So I keep feeding him and then I'm like me a little host dude. I tell I look at Jessica I'm like should I like keep going? She's like we'll stop and see what happens. So I'll stop and I'll wait and then he's like I'm like oh my god Grab the club Weight and height right now what percentile? I don't know we were supposed to take him the doctor But we had you know obviously we were sick So we're gonna take him this week to see but his height was good. He was always low on the weight, but I think that's changed now He's chunking out. So it's great. Yeah, we'll see what happens, but it cracks me up Dude, I'm like, are you sure kid? You want to keep going because I feel like you're not fine I get to identify though with the exposure of things and like finding out what the interests are and all that because it was like Dude, there's so much trial and error of like I was so team sports driven I had all these expectations about how they would have the same interests all these things like Meanwhile, all they want to do is like grab a stick and play swords out, you know I'm hoping that when I'm one of my kids gets passionate about lifting weights, you know, that's what I want I would love to just have my workout partner be one of my kids I think they will I think again that what you what you do as a parent is so much more important than what you say And because you live that so much like and because you don't push it on him, right? You're not you're not forcing enough. That's my like honestly the whole basketball thing I put the pressure on me. I'm like, God, I'm not playing it enough. He's not seeing me play enough Like you just gotta let him see me play and then eventually he'll come that way Just get super excited like throw something in. Yeah. No, I always pull it out I pull the basketball hoop out and I'll go I'll play by myself like hoping he'll come over and So it's slowly working though, like I mean some of my motivation to coach these high school kids was really to just like Pull my boys into that environment and let them kind of hang out, you know and see and so I did I was able to take into practice not too long ago and So, you know, they're having fun kind of messing around like around the campus and in exploring and stuff But then they finally kind of came in and so I grabbed both of them and then had them hold pads like with me like for You know, they were doing offense and so I put them on like this look for scrub defense We hold pads and and Ethan was just like, oh my god I'm like, yeah, just hold it there and like hit him with it. You know as hard as you can I'm looking at the guys. I'm like, dude, just don't like truck them Be reasonable and so they did that and they're like, you know Give them little shoves and hits and all that and I could just see them get all fired up about it It was cool. Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, okay, so I got something else cool for you Justin Are you familiar with the I think I'm saying it right a Takama alien a Takama. Yeah, so look this up Doug So we could see a picture of this so this was and it's the a Takama region of somewhere Okay, so this is like are we talking about like Star Trek universe here? We're talking no, no, no, this is illegal. Is this real And the Takama alien this guy named a Takama No, and chili that country chilies a Takama desert they found this skeleton that right there and It's not not know this It's a real skeleton and so there was all the speculation like how big is that tiny? It's like six inches or something like that. It looks like somebody took like chicken bones and just and Is this real is this an alien because it's got like this cone head a little upper-sized eyes and you know The rib cage is weird and but they finally were able to extract some DNA and do some testing and it's human It was a little human. It was some some Like fetus was some genetic, you know deformity may yeah that they found and so it's a human skeleton But yeah, how how tiny is that Doug? I think it was six inches if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, really small Yeah, but they they literally I mean cuz look at that and they for a long time They couldn't figure out what the hell it was is this thing real. This says 2018 How do you find some weird stuff like this randomly like today? What are you reading that this comes up in your I don't know. We're probably on the same website There's one of them where they were like speculating there was Like pyramids and Antarctica and all I'm like really you know It's all bullshit, you know speaking of which speaking of which I think it was in Greenland I'm gonna find this article that they there was a like a iceberg or something that they went into and found 1500 year old I gotta find this it was 1500 year old Oh as a Tibetan glacier Viruses so they found viruses. Oh my god in these glaciers that we'd never seen before that are a thousand five hundred years old They're like no, no, no, don't worry. Yeah, these ones worry. Yeah, it's like yeah It just you know, it's like multiple species were extinct, you know back then because of them sorry 15,000 years old my bad and these viruses they're like no no these can't infect us Because we're looking at them under my microscope. So it looks all good, but we've never seen these before But this just goes to show you That there's like if some of this stuff melts Well, this is what they're worried about the permafrost because all of those like underlying diseases and like you have viruses and things like Re-emerge and just kind of find their way Interesting when they're discovering them. Yeah, what's this? I don't know. Let's go bring it home But our idea is to resurrect mammoths So this is why all the millionaires are trying to build rockets to get us off this planet Yeah, they know something more than all of us. Hey, what happened with didn't Bezos you have basis is suing NASA right now What was the deal again? Why do you see them again? I guess I didn't even know you could sue over this so I guess NASA was Trying to get bids for contracts for something. So they had SpaceX they had Blue Origin and they had like another one and The article that I read I think that the NASA alluded that they were going to use at least two of the three and I guess that the quote that Bezos gave them I was like five point nine billion dollars was like double of what? SpaceX was and so they went with like SpaceX and so now he's trying to sue because they're not they're not also including him It sounds like a baby Obviously offered a lower price point like one guy. Yes, you know Hey, this is totally like it's becoming like an ego like, you know like fight Oh, that's what it's been about the whole time. It seems like to me Yeah, it's like but like they're super like billionaires and they got nothing better I was watching an interview one time I don't remember who the billionaire was and they were getting asked questions about stuff like that about You know fucking with each other and they're saying that like a big Percentage of like the moves and stuff that they do when you're at that level is purely just like that It's just like, you know out of spite Yeah, like exactly just a quiet by this company knowing that it's not gonna really help your business very much with that But it's just because you know, it's gonna fuck the guy It kind of sounds fun like let's be honest, of course If all of us were billionaires and we're all friends, dude, you know, we would fuck well How do they get there like they're the most competitive like driven people like out there It's like what what's left to say if somebody rubs you the wrong way, right? You're gonna do a deal with them and they back out last minute motherfucker Oh my you have an opportunity to acquire and block them in some business move and like, you know A hundred million dollar purchase of a company for you ain't no big deal And if it's enough to cause him a fucking headache totally like where does his mom work? Okay, cool. I'm buying the company The company's in the red though, I don't care I bet there be I gotta be like a book around stories that if this is happening because it would actually be really interesting to Well, it reminds me that show billions, you know, like yeah kind of get into that totally It's totally believable, you know that they would like go to that level a lot of times where it's just like just literally out of spite I'm gonna do this. Well, I'm losing money on it This reminds me of this this kid who he was bullied in high school like crazy by like three or four other boys and The way he got revenge. This is a true story is he slept with all of their moms. I heard about this Did you hear this? It's like the ultimate champion move Oh my talk about winning that battle. Oh, you threw me in the garbage pull that off ten times Yeah, I'm having sex with your ugly mom We can't post this on the on the obviously on the on the video But my cousin sometimes will send, you know videos of like funny stuff or whatever There's this video of this couple that have like a one of those like nest cams or whatever in their bedroom And it's a married couple. They're having sex and then all of a sudden they're fucking like toddler like bust through the room with the dog She's like on top of them and they're like they freeze and the little kids like Why is mommy bouncing on you? Oh, it's such a funny. Sorry. We can't post Because it's a little bit yesterday I took so yesterday was my day a day in the life right on the on the main page or whatever So there's like a I was telling Chokey. I apologize to her So sorry mine wasn't as active as I normally am on there because there was like a two and a half hour Break that I had because I fell asleep and I guess I'm not all the way recovered because I took max out on that We have but we bought them one of those. I don't recall them a little cart things that you pull behind the bike Yeah, you know I'm talking about. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you ride your bike He sits in there. Yeah. How was that work? He's loving it right now, right? So he's all into it and I took a train. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll take him on side car feeling better. I'm like, oh, that'd be cool So I just took him around for I don't know maybe 20 minutes maybe 30 you got exhausted. Oh, dude I didn't really realize it till after where they came home when I sat down and like kind of watching them play around and then Eventually moved him over to the the beanbag and I laid down and completely passed out and was out for like two and a half hours And I still slept that night because normally if I do something like that Ruin my sleep from the night slept again. So I I definitely can tell that I still then obviously have like this fatigue And I noticed that the other day when I tried to lift a little bit of weights like I'm not full like I feel 100% you look you look you look pretty good. But my energy is the energy. Yeah, the energy is all over there And I'm sure there's also some connection to just a calorie wise. I'm still really low like I'm well I mean you did nothing. You were isolated. You probably didn't eat that much Yeah, and then you're recovering, right? So of course, but I'm getting back to my my taste is starting to come back And so I'm sure my appetite's gonna slowly start. Yeah, I did today. I did I worked out legs for the second time all I did was three sets of squats and three sets of stiff legged deadlift That's it. And I know right now. I could tell that was too much You know, you know what you can tell I'm gonna get sore already feeling. Oh, yeah I'm already feeling it. So I'm like damn it, dude. I thought I was going hella easy That's just just goes to show you that dude. Yeah, I'm beating up my joints though trying to get all interactive You know coaching Are you still pedaling all of our supplements to all the kids over there? Oh, yeah, anything and everything dude. I'm slinging organifi like crazy, dude Actually, they love it like I've had a lot of good replies about especially You know the vanilla protein powder like they're all about it. Yeah And mixing it and so uh, at least to have some kids like Trying to up their calorie intake and protein intake specifically because they haven't even really Considered that like it's not something that I think A lot of these student athletes even you care too much about uh, is really like being adamant about You know like fueling their body like going into these crazy You know rigorous Practices protein shakes can make a huge difference for for teenagers because they have no idea I had no idea like when I was a kid. I thought and I was into working out and everything I thought because I ate a baloney and cheese sandwich that oh, yeah, that was protein Yeah, I got some good protein in here. It's like, you know 10 grams of protein and I remember one year Where I was at my grandmother's house for I think it was like a month because both of my parents Went to Italy for a month and my grandma being you know my Sicilian grandma will pretty much make me whatever I want When it comes to and if I don't she'll make me something anyway, so I have no choice But to tell her what I want and she said, you know, what do you want to eat? What do you like? I said, uh, I like steak and so my grandma made me steak for breakfast steak for lunch steak for dinner And in a month, I remember I got I got so Like I got so strong and I built some and I was like what could it be the steak? I didn't realize that what I thought was eating enough protein Wasn't enough protein. It was just you know because I had a bowl of cereal I thought I remember when I first figured that out with sandwiches like I used to count like a You know a meat sandwich from like togos or something is like a high protein Yeah, it's like minuscule. Yeah, most places on like a large sandwich like the standard is like four ounces of meat I know it's ridiculous four ounces of turkey meat is like nothing And so you have this massive thousand calorie subway sandwich all all bread and sauces and stuff like that And then it's like it's 20 20 grams of protein in it I know how you're going cheap on this because dude, yeah when I actually had a decent sandwich I think it was a beach hut and it was like, oh, wow that's you like hook it up I've spent 70 dollars on sandwiches. Oh my god people. Wow. I almost shit my pants. Wow. This is insane Wow, that's expensive. Is this inflation or is this like double meat? Normal, I actually found a sandwich that I really like It's got gluten I put gluten-free bread on it. Do you guys do this? I do this This is annoying about me If I like something add it to the list. Yeah, one more thing if I'm working If I like something I'll just I'll I'll consume it until I hate it like that's the goal. The goal is This is great. I'm gonna keep doing this until I hate it and I do that with food So like I like a dish and then that's what I'm gonna eat every day until I get sick of it I do the same. I don't kind of like the same way though. I just look at it When I find something I like I don't like to fuck that up So like if I go to a restaurant and I try something and I'm like, wow, that was so good I know it's so good that that's probably what attracts me to come back to that restaurant And so then when I'm looking at the menu about other things I'm like, god Do I really want to try this other thing because I know that halibut's hella good Right So you play that game and then you actually like, oh, you know, I should just order another item on there And then you get totally disappointed and you're like, no I should have done that. Yeah. So that's why I get stuck in that. I get stuck like that for sure Okay. Well, how about this and I really like how about this then let's forget food for a second What about music if you find a song that you liked you listen to the shit to the shit out of it until I do that all the time. All right. So I'm not the only one. I just do that with everything I think that's normal behavior. Is it? I think so. Okay. It's not dysfunctional It's like you look forward to it You know, I want to put that on my car on the way home and then yeah, you've just done that way too many times Yeah, and then you hate it. Yeah Hey real quick. I hope you're enjoying this episode listen to this moms and dads you feed your kids Baby food, but you want them to be healthy One of the best companies for some of the healthiest baby food that we found anywhere Is serenity kids? I mean, we're talking about grass-fed beef and bone broth and no preservatives and grain-free snacks Great stuff. It's actually the only Baby food that I give to my nine month old son and because you listen to mine pump You actually get a discount head over to my serenitykids Dot com and then use the code mp 20 so that's mp20 For 20% off your first order. You're very welcome. All right. Enjoy the rest of the show First question is from sal rules adam drools for 20 This person couldn't be a person can be more I bet this is gonna be a really good question Can your hormonal profile effect where your fat is distributed on your body? Yes next question Yeah No, actually, I mean it definitely can like they'll find that men when their estrogen levels rise Or too high They'll store more body fat in more feminine places like on their hips or their chest I shared this remember I shared this when I was going through all this when uh when I came off of testosterone And I remember telling you guys that we talked more off-air than on air But I know I've mentioned it on air where I was like, man, it was just fat booty. I remember that I just It was no, I got like around my my hips and my obliques like just didn't I remember when he told us that I was trying not to laugh This is weird. I just don't like what I'm seeing right now And women different and women that will have like really high stress and high cortisol They'll store it more in their gut and in their belly And they find in studies that women who store more body fat in the places that traditionally women right will Store them the hips but area will have healthier offspring and will have better health than women who store Similar amount of body fat, but in places where aren't they're not traditionally, you know supposed to be storing it So yeah hormones Can definitely play a role and in where you store body fat And of course it could play a role in how much body fat you store like the studies on On men on because I know, you know, ever since working with uh, you know, dr. Ran and and the their hormone clinic I've done more reading on this and they'll do studies with men Who will go on testosterone replacement therapy? So they go from low testosterone to high testosterone And they'll find that even without working out. They're just leaner as a result Their body will just burn more body fat. Uh, so this could definitely happen But what's the moral of story just be healthy. Yeah, right just be healthy overall Well, it was interesting. I think I picked this question because so Courtney and I were actually like when we were down in St. Louis We're people watching and we're at this pier and These two guys were kind of walking by and it they had more of like a pear shape You know and like and she was asking me about that. I was like, oh, that's so strength Like it didn't look like a normal fat distribution for for men Didn't you share a study a long time ago actually that they showed that that like like men that store body fat They're had higher levels of estrogen. Yeah, I think that's what I speculated. I was like, yeah I think you shared that a long time ago. Yeah, and they'll show again that a person's body fat distribution will change Based on the hormones. So there's definitely a genetic component But the hormones also influence kind of what's happening. So like and that can change that can change. Absolutely So again, if you're unhealthy Then your body fat distribution will start to look a little bit off and you know, it's funny Because body fat distribution generally tends to be a particular way As a trainer, I remember early on being being able to accurately identify clients that had liposuction Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, because I was I remember the first time this happened I was early trainer and I'm testing this woman's body fat percentage and she's She wanted a higher trainer because she want to lose weight And I remember I go to test her bicep and tricep. So, you know, one of the classic caliper tests is you do bicep tricep Sub scapula, right? So right below the shoulder blade and then the supra iliac crest, right? Which is kind of the crest of the pelvis here right below it So I go, you know, I do all those and then I get to the tricep And the tricep measurement for her was lower than the bicep measurement, which never happens It never happens tricep measurement is almost always higher, especially in women Then bicep and I tested it and I did it like several times. I'm like, this isn't right and then just instinctively I'm like, have you had liposuction and she's like, yeah, she thought I was like some kind of brilliant genius I'm like, no, it's because your tricep measured lower than normally do that Yeah, and when they do that when they do liposuction, it doesn't change your body's ability to store body fat It just does it in weird I've always thought that you look better too You I feel like you look better with a higher person higher body fat percentage more fat on your body Evenly distributed than it taken in certain places. Yes. Does that make sense? I remember I say in that to clients like, you know, I know you think that you want to do this lipo thing But it it doesn't look natural. It doesn't look right for you to suck 20 pounds of fat only out of your gut or only out of your thighs because then it looks It doesn't look evenly distributed in just the way our body stores fat if you're healthy hormonal It looks like something's off and then you have like pockets of it. I've seen sometimes too where it's like Yeah, so it just doesn't distribute the same after that. No, no it looks it looks Weird and can actually look unhealthy as a result agreed. Um, so yeah, where you put body fat on your body can actually show Or display if you're Healthy or not and people will instinctively Know this, you know when female athletes at them, you might be interested in this uh high level female athletes tend to Store less body fat and their limbs Then the average female so women tend to store more in their limbs Than men do and obviously it's because it offsets their center of gravity if they're pregnant or whatever But female athletes at high levels and this is probably a genetic thing tend to be leaner in their limbs because it obviously leaner limbs frees you up to be more Next question is from eric pepper How long should a bulk and cut last? Oh, yeah, here's a good rule of thumb 27 days with the black Exactly Wouldn't be grave. That was it. There's your answer. Yeah 175 hours. No, um Here's a good rule of thumb that I used to go by with a bulk and a cut if I'm bulking And my strength is going up and I'm adding mostly muscle Then I would stay on it the minute that I notice my weight's going up by my strength isn't going up and I'm adding Way more body fat or I'm not adding muscle anymore. I'm just gaining body fat Then I would switch out of it and then with a cut When my strength would really start to dive and I started to lose muscle and this requires tracking body fat tests and stuff like that When I noticed that uh, oh, I'm losing weight, but the weight I'm losing is muscle Then I would switch out of it. So that was kind of the the metric that I would use So I like spending four to six weeks in the one that's more difficult for you and two weeks in the one that's easier for you So if you're somebody who typically can put on weight Fairly easy then a bulk I would only bulk them for a couple weeks and then spend more time in the cut four to six weeks And if the opposite is true, then I would spend four to six weeks on the other direction and then cut for the two weeks Yeah, so depending on which one and that's just I mean, there's no There's no real science to support that that's superior than any way. That's just when you coach people Yeah, just it's something that I have found over years have worked has worked well with myself and then people that I've coached to I mean we talk about the benefits of And there's plenty of research and science to support the benefits of moving in and out of cuts and bulks And not staying and either one of them for an extended period of time So I think the the science is out on that. I think everybody agrees on that But exactly how many weeks you should spend in each one I think there's such a genetic variance And I think that doing spending more time in the one that is a little bit more challenging for you And then less time in the one that your body responds to faster Has just made sense for me and I've done well for clients that I've coached that way I also like uh for somebody who has let's say a lot of weight to lose, you know, let's say I want to lose 50 pounds, right? So that's that would be a long cut, but I would break up every three or four weeks I'd break up that cut with Whatever you want to call it a diet break or whatever where I'd put them at a slight bulk or even just that maintenance So like okay every four weeks we're going to do four days Where we bump your calories up and put you in the inverse of that too, right if you're trying to gain Yes, and it there's a couple benefits that well first off studies show that actually helps with the fat loss and reduces the The muscle loss that can happen from going into a cut, but also psychologically like even bulking I know a lot of people cut a lot and try to lose weight and they think oh, I would love to be on a long bulk I'm gonna tell you Coming from a you know, someone's ectomorph, right? Being in a long bulk psychologically at some point. You're just like I don't want to eat like I don't want to stuff my face anymore This is like super tedious and I don't like this So then if I did like a three day Cut it would like Invigorate me and I go back to the bulk and start to feel better Uh, you know when I would start eating more and I think that's the key take away from a question like this Is because there isn't no there and I jokingly said 27 days And that the point of me joking about that was that there isn't like this specific There's no hard and fast rules. There isn't there isn't there's some some basic General rules as far as not staying in it for too long of a period of time. I think spending Two months so eight weeks and beyond in in any particular one with no break at all is not ideal So if you are cutting staying in a calorie deficit for eight weeks straight with no break is not ideal I think the same thing for a bulk if your goal is to bulk and you're eight weeks consistently And you've been bulking and you haven't had a break where you do a lower calorie day I think that's not ideal, but everything in the middle of that I think it's really about personal preference and then what you're most likely to stay consistent with and do So I I like kind of doing the four two thing just because it was I was constantly breaking up Whatever the client was doing in a month's time. They never were doing the same You know following the same meal plan or calorie plan for longer than a four week time. I think psychologically that works Psychologically I could convince anybody to like all right for the next 30 days This is what we're going to do just state stick to the plan And then I'm going to do this to you and then they okay. They have something to look forward to versus Oh, we're just going to inevitably we're going to be in this bulk forever or cut forever Next question is from katie conton. What are the pros and cons of drinking coffee versus energy drinks? Oh, yeah, you know, you know, what's funny about this is that that coffee is Genuinely objectively healthy. Yeah, it's full of antioxidants They've tried to so hard to create studies where it shows the detriments of coffee To to they're just me. Yeah, I mean no no, of course, you know caffeine You can overdo caffeine and there's a big difference between people in terms of what's too much or what's too little But that set aside Coffee is natural. It's full of antioxidants. It's it's a natural drink that shows lots of health benefits Energy drinks essentially are trying to recreate What you get from coffee now? Here's the benefit that I could see from energy drinks or like pre workouts pre workouts will often include other compounds that might have some benefit like beta alanine for example or Maybe citrulline might be in the orthionine and amino acid that balances out The caffeine but and then here's the other thing Coffee some people have an intolerance to I mean it is made from beans So for some people like coffee for me It's hit or miss sometimes it bothers my gut sometimes it doesn't whereas If I do like a caffeine pill that never bothers my gut kind of reminds me of a sort of I guess pharmaceuticals versus like Herbs or you know like kind of going a little bit more in that direction like something that's a little more condensed like versus You know like artificially manufactured versus something that you can just grind up and take off of a tree And so there's some like natural pathways there for the body to absorb it But yeah, I as long as you're not adding all these extra Items in there which you're going to find in most starbucks and most You know like if it's just like the pure sources coffee And you don't and you know your amount that and how it affects you and you can kind of manage that I really don't see a whole lot of problems. There's also natural Limiters because of that too. Yeah, which I think are another positive of coffee, right? So even if you so nitro brooved cold pressed coffee is probably the highest Level of caffeine one of them, right? Right one so and but is nothing compared to a rock star Which is pumping out 220, you know milligrams of caffeine in a single dose or a pre workout That's 450 milligrams. So you can get up there quickly going through coffee Is you're probably less likely to overdo it, right? Even though all the positive health benefits of caffeine and all the research around it that we've seen for the most part It's pretty good for you But I do think there it starts to have an adverse effect when you get climb up to a certain amount I think that's just a lot less likely to happen drinking cups of coffee Versus pre workouts and taking energy drinks that they've got at 4x the dose Doug, how much coffee would you have to drink to get 400 milligrams of caffeine? Maybe we can look that up because that'd be a big ass pot of coffee Right like you'd have to drink a lot to get that and I had an I told you guys was it two weeks ago When I went to the the supplement store and I got all excited, you know Because I do that when those in supplement stores and I said, oh look at this drink. This is this looks fun Uh, and it's like it was a small bottle. It wasn't even that big of a bottle But it packed a punch, you know So let's see. What does that say there? Yeah, one cup of coffee is 95 milligrams Or you have to have more than four cups, right? So, you know 32 ounces Yeah of coffee just to equal. Do you know what has the most caffeine of of any coffee or whatever? The light bruise. The light bruise. Yeah, I thought it was the dark ones I know it would seem that way because because the taste of it is more bold Yep No, the like the like blonde espresso and stuff like that are the highest but Well, yeah, that's my point is that I think that going the natural route you're less likely to overdo it Totally and I think the way they and and what I've seen at least in the last decade with these Pre workouts is they just keep pressing pressing it And I don't think we're going to see it slow down anytime soon Is everybody just keeps the tolerance goes up? Yeah I mean, it was it used to be a big deal to have 200 milligrams in a pre workout Like that was a like a serious starter dose now Yeah, now it's pretty standard to see 300 plus in a pre workout So that's that would be my concern of doing it with the yeah, it's funny You brought like the blonde roasting because uh, you know, I'm a big like nitro connoisseur And I had a nitro coffee at this like total hipster place Thinking that you know, I was gonna have the same experience pretty much But it was I think it was made from a blonde roast like and so It was like rocket fuel like I I hadn't experienced anything that powerful in a while. So that was pretty cool Yeah, well, well coffee is not sexy. It's cheap So the supplement companies aren't gonna promote coffee But if you want Here's something you can do is you could buy Beta alanine in bulk and it's cheap, right? You could buy citrulline, which is the amino acid supposedly gives you a better pump You know, it's I'll I'll debate that but that's fine You buy that in bulk buy some theanine in bulk and then take those with coffee And you've got yourself a great pre-workout and it's cheap It's very now it's not gonna taste like, you know bubblegum or you know, unicorn hair or whatever they name these things But it's it's definitely gonna give you the same effect, but it's natural next question is From barkley sun cova any tips for college students on how to manage school work training social activities family and not get crazy Yeah, you know what the problem is with have a kid You know, you know what the really fine time you know what the problem is with kids these days Here we go old man rant here we go They they they think they can have everything like everything, you know what I mean like hey, how do I balance? Building a business and partying with my friends or how do I if I can't do it? Maybe I just shouldn't do it There's there's it's priorities and you get a balance it out and look here's a deal with exercise And this is very true Two full body workouts a week three full bodies of workouts a week max will give you great Muscle building benefits. So if you're a college student You want to lift weights you want to build muscle, but you also obviously have a crazy schedule and there's other priorities Just go to the gym twice a week Do a bunch of compound lifts? Train your full body and you'll get great results doing that now Will it be better if you did a three days full body or maybe yeah, probably But two days a week is not much. It's only two two and a half hours total a week and and that's all you got to do Yeah, well, you got to you got to manage the things that you can manage, right? You're not going to change school. You're not going to change work your work schedules your work So long as you have to right if you have to work to pay the bills and do things with as most people have to You're going to have your work schedule. Nothing's going to change there School if you're going through your degree You're going to have to go to your classes. You're going to have to study to pass your tests Like those things are not really controllables here Like you're going to have to do it. You can become more efficient sleep better So you're more productive at work and make sure you're studying like you're supposed to To be be more efficient at school and not waiting till the last minute But as far as time in that you're you're going to probably have to spend that there's nothing we can do to help you there Training to your points out. Yeah, do something that is like a maps anabolic protocol that it's a you know Two to three times a week is all you need to be they don't need to dedicate more than that So you don't need to be in the gym five to seven days a week for an hour plus And then the other one's social activities and family It's like then that's on you to decide how important those things are to you currently right now I think sometimes too that you you we feel like you have to do those things like if I have specific goals Like maybe to knock my degree out or save x amount of money Those things might suffer a little bit temporarily while i'm getting you do the things you have to do now So you can do the things you want to do later Yeah, so if you've got to get if you're trying to get your degree done You're trying to get and knock that out So maybe you're not doing the same amount of social activities and maybe as much family time as you would like to But you also have a temporary goal you're trying to achieve Yeah, you gotta stack them up and prioritize what's the most important items to hit but I honestly I feel that you know this period of your life you're you're most resilient for a reason And this is if any time Is the time to really stack everything on top of each other like you can handle this like I had to I mean just thinking back about that it was a whirlwind You know, I was full time committed to to playing football I was full time having to run workouts with that and had a job and then a full like, you know schedule for school Obviously, like my family probably was the one that I kind of pushed aside because they were like in california And I was in illinois and so that was kind of easy I didn't have a whole lot of social life, but you know, it's a compromise. So uh, you just kind of gotta figure that out But uh, I mean do it now so you can figure out how to really structure time management And deal with it while you're still resilient. That's a good point. And here's the other thing too. I think you realize this as you get older that when you Get a mortgage and a wife and a job and kids you doesn't go away like no It's just getting piled on. Yes. It's my point. You look back. You're like, I remember when I used to think I was busy Exactly like I would kill for that schedule now. Yeah, it doesn't even that's not even considered busy anymore now If I if I had that schedule before like I had before it'd be pretty pretty wide open. You have to schedule This is a big one. This is something I think you learn As you get older is that you create yourself Schedule and you plan things out. So you can no longer Just work out when you have an opening you might have to do it at 5 a.m every you know in the morning or You know, you can't just drop at the you know at the drop of a dime go out and hang out with your friends You have to study. This is my study time and I dedicate it at this time I think if you organize your schedule You'll find that you can become way more productive with the same amount of hours in the day Look, if you like our content, you like our information, you'll love mind pump free calm head over there Check out our guides. They can help you build muscle burn body fat. They can help you squat better Even become a better personal trainer again. It's mind pump free calm You can also find all of us on instagram so you can find justin at mind pump justin Me at mind pump sal and adam at mind pump adam