 Hello everyone, thank you for joining the academic summer school webinar for summer 2020 at SOAS. My name is John Whitaker, I coordinate the academic summer school programme and I'm here with my colleague Rufus. So we're both going to be chatting through a few details with you all today about the summer programme and a bit about SOAS and about what we offer and basically answer any questions that you guys have as well. And on that you can I think type any questions that you have as we go. So if you've got any questions at all about anything we're talking about then just write them in the text box here and we'll be able to see those so we can answer anything as we go. And then at the end we'll have some time for any questions as well. So yeah either of those is actually fine, don't worry about stopping us as we go through. But we'll keep it very kind of informal and hopefully just give you any information you need and yeah help you along the process of applying for the summer school and coming to study here in London and at SOAS this summer. So I don't know how much you already might know about SOAS. Some of you might know it quite well. Some of you might not have heard about SOAS at all. So I thought we could give you just a very brief kind of overview of SOAS. The kind of things that we teach here and yeah kind of a brief kind of general overview just to let anyone know who's not familiar with SOAS about the kind of things and what we do and the approaches that we take. So I mean in terms of SOAS we are the School of Oriental and African Studies. We're part of the University of London and we are well at least Europe's leading institution but some say maybe the world leading institution for the study of Asia, Africa and the Middle East. So although we offer courses across all the kind of core areas that you would see at other institutions whether that be law, politics, finance, management, business, economics all of those things we offer but the approach we take is always with kind of looking through the lens of Asia, Africa and the Middle East and using perhaps case studies that are from those regions or will always kind of be looking at the kind of global context rather than perhaps a western context that a lot of institutions or a lot of other places would kind of start with. So our starting point is looking outwardly, looking at these other regions, looking at Asia, Africa and the Middle East and starting there and looking at the issues and problems faced there but bringing that all together and looking at these core concepts in relation to finance, business, law, politics and all of those key kind of things that we're all kind of interested in and we'll be focusing on throughout our kind of academic life and throughout our careers but at SOAS you really get a real kind of specialized approach to the teaching here that often isn't offered anywhere else and often isn't the things you kind of hear and learn are really things that you just don't really hear elsewhere. So in terms of our teaching is quite unique in that respect kind of relating back to the summer school programs that we offer the faculty that we have at SOAS are often from the regions that we teach about so you're not kind of hearing from someone who's just studied kind of these regions you're hearing from experts that have lived in these regions who have grown up there and who have now kind of come to SOAS as a kind of real melting pot and hotbed for this kind of teaching and this kind of academic expertise they all kind of gravitate to SOAS in some kind of way because of the kind of unique approach that we have. So our faculty are teachers and these will be the teachers that you hear from on the academic summer school they're core faculty so these are the teachers that are teaching our degree programs these are the people who are then teaching our summer programs as well we're not drafting in external people just for the summer these are often heads of departments, they're senior academics they're senior professors who teach on our degree programs and they also teach on our courses over the summer and I would definitely encourage you to go on to our website and have a look on our course descriptions you'll find each convener listed there and just go and have a look at their biographies and see the kind of research they've done and the areas they're focusing on because you'll learn so much about the kind of what their background is and what they're going to be bringing to the courses just by having a quick look at their names have a search of their names and seeing what information is on the website and yeah as I said you're kind of what people always say when they come to SOAS especially on the summer school is that they learn and hear things that they kind of never knew before or they get perspectives that they just weren't aware of partly that's because of the teaching and the things that are taught here but also because of the group of students that come to SOAS over the summer so you'll get students from all over the world who are sharing their perspectives on these issues and so it's not just learning from the teachers, it's learning from your group and your peers as well and that's basically a general kind of intro to SOAS as well as our kind of world renowned academic expertise one of the other things that makes us so special is really our student body and the kind of international student community that we have here at SOAS not just throughout our term time but also over the summer as well you get a particular type of person who comes to SOAS it's not really, it's very different I think from other places especially other places in London where you get these very big universities that attract lots and lots of students but here at SOAS you really get a feel for the certain type of person who comes here, they're very politically motivated often kind of involved activists in various forms across London and they all want to make change in the world, positive change and that's really the kind of perspective that we have here is making positive change in the world and influencing people and making a difference basically so we all kind of come with that approach and you can really feel that here at SOAS is that we're all kind of together heading towards a kind of shared goal of making the world a better place really so the student body here is something that really stands out from other universities and something that people really love to just get involved with and experience so that's one of the special things about SOAS then just quickly about where we are, where SOAS is placed within London, we're kind of perfectly located in central London in Bloomsbury it's an area with, it's kind of a buzzing area really with lots of other universities very close by we've got UCL, we've got FEC and various other University of London institutions that are based within a stone's throw of SOAS but in the wider scheme of things we're a very short walk from places like the British Museum, the British Library Covent Garden, it's a really nice area and Oxford Circus, Trafalgar Square, Leicester Square and SOHO so you've got these places that are about a ten minute walk basically from SOAS so it's not just a great place to come to on its own you get to explore London just by kind of being very close to all of these main kind of attractions so it's a great place to base yourself our accommodation is very close by so you'll be really in the heart of London and be able to kind of just explore the various kind of areas that are really close by so we're in a really good place and location within London Transport links are brilliant so you'll never be far from a tube station you can get around London, London is very big but you can get around very quickly and yeah, I would just say that you won't really get a better location in terms of coming to London to study and because you're here for a relatively short time over the summer you want to be very close and you want things conveniently located so yeah, in terms of where we're placed we're in a very good location so I think I'm going to hand over to Ruha to speak a little bit more now we'll start to give you an overview of our summer programme it's the academic summer school and Ruha will talk you through the specific details about how the courses are structured we also arrange around 20 courses that are designed to conspire to challenge several questions and answers and you can see the table on the right that we cover a range of different areas from law politics, finance, regional studies and many many more you can see the dates listed at the top of the table and each course is three weeks long but you do have the options you choose to study for six weeks six weeks with us by choosing one course from each session I'll talk about it in a bit more detail later but if you do choose to study two courses you will be eligible for a 10% discount as well which is great so in terms of how the courses are structured each course is full-time, which means Monday to Friday roughly 10am to 3pm which typically will consist of a mid-term election morning at 2am or 2pm or 7am or 1pm and then a bit of assistance at least across the three weeks we do kind of hold a few different social events we'll be talking a bit more later about our guest lectures workshop series that you can get involved with so stay tuned for that you can choose to study our courses for credit if you choose the credit assessed option pay it slightly high C and then be required to complete the course assessment and you'll receive a transcript of the actual study confirm your marks and your credit and of course if you don't choose to study the credit you will not be required to complete any of your final course assessments it's first mentioned in this file that we do receive received very mixed cohort applications so that includes undergraduate from all years postgraduate, working professionals from a range of industries and of course I want to speak a little bit about our guest lecture workshop series I mean I'd come in a little bit just on a point that Ruha made there about the mixture of students I mean so Ruha was just giving you really an overview of the program and of the courses that we offer so it's a typical kind of structure it'll be Monday to Friday you'll have usually lectures in the morning and you'll have seminar discussion sessions in the afternoon but interspersed with those we don't kind of just keep it very classroom based we want to get you out and about in London so you'll visit various sites, various organisations sometimes that are linked with the topics that you'll study it could be an NGO that are working in a particular area on the development path so you'll go out and visit these places you might go to the British Museum and see the Africa archives that they got there so we try and take you out of the classroom as much as possible so you're not going to just be based in the classroom having lectures and that's it you're going to be out on various visits and trips and the structure and the schedule will be quite varied on all of our courses but something I just kind of wanted to chime in on there and what Ruha was mentioning was the kind of mixture of students and on our courses which again I think is quite different to other places our courses attract undergraduates and they are taught at a kind of second to third year undergraduate level but we get I think a lot of the applications that we've had through at the moment are from postgraduate students and that's perfectly fine our courses are designed to be appropriate for postgraduates as well but also get some kind of young career professionals or people working kind of out in the field who want to either refresh their knowledge on a particular area or they're using it as some kind of professional development so you really get to hear so much kind of expertise from people who aren't just either currently or have graduated but from people working in these various fields as well so that's something that people say is so great about doing a summer school course at Soasis but again the people that you hear from so that's just to say that our courses are very mixed in terms of the range of students we get we're not just specifically designed for one level of students summer courses are they the same every year our programme changes year on year so some of our courses have been running since we started which is about eight years ago so we have a core selection of courses that will run every year but we always add new ones in as well so it does change each year but we have a core set of around ten or so courses that will run each year if there's any particular areas that you're interested in then let us know on the chat and we can say which courses might be most appropriate but this slide just basically gives you an overview of what courses are on offer this year one of the other new things that we have developed for this year is that you can study for credits so they're all credit bearing they offer 15 credits or 15 SOAS credits per course so if you're currently studying and you would like to use or you'd like to earn credit over the summer at SOAS and take that back perhaps to your home institution and transfer that credit then it makes it a lot easier for you if you choose to study for credit but some people also as I said there's a lot of professionals who don't particularly require credit so they can take a non-credit route which means that you don't complete any of the final assessments on the course and you can just study the course for the experience but you don't actually receive an assessment or a final grade or transcript to the end so we have two, we have a credit bearing route and a non-credit bearing route on every course but you will all come together and study the same course I've got a question here, monitoring and evaluation for next summer will be interesting for me so that's great so we'll note that down, thank you, development evaluation so we've got the project program and policy evaluation which may be of interest to you I'd suggest having a quick look at that but we'll make a note of any suggestions you have for courses it's really actually helpful for us to know what you guys might be interested in if there's any areas that you think we could cover and please do tell me culture ethnography would be interesting for young professionals definitely that's a great suggestion I mean culture, I mean those areas I think are covered in quite a lot of our courses but maybe something specifically around that of course our courses around understanding Africa gender all cover that kind of culture aspect and I think all of our courses will look at cultures in these various regions as well research methodology we actually offer I don't even know the content so we've got an understanding research methods course available in session one so that's there there's another exciting element about our summer program that I think isn't offered anywhere else and that's the addition of guest lectures a guest lecture series and also workshops practical skills workshops I'll focus on the guest lectures first so aside from the kind of core subject learning and those courses that we were just talking about there in the first week of your programs whether it's session one or session two we will be offering guest lectures that are open to everyone it's a time where all students across all courses can come together and hear from kind of people who are working in the field again within it could be within media but they really honed they're designed to hone your communication skills these guest lectures so you'll hear from BBC news anchors, political journalists there's I think we've got a kind of public speaking communications expert who trains leading business CEOs so there's going to be as you can see on the slide here and in the first week we've got there's a couple of funny names there so Bendit Like Obama is actually a session on public speaking and where you can tailor any kind of speech you have to make it sound as good as something that Barack Obama might have said and the way he kind of structures his speeches and then we're offering kind of there's also panel discussions around feminist politics around gender so basically in week one three guest lectures to bring everyone together to hear from experts and this is something that we do at SOAS during the term time as well for our full-time students is this kind of communication media skills type training and that ties into the work we offer them as well so week one we have this guest lecture series from experts in the field who will come to SOAS they'll do a talk for about an hour after your courses are taught so between kind of four to five in the evening in the late afternoon and that'll be a way for us to just bring everyone together and get kind of courses networking between each other that was one of the comments we had last year is that people thought they wanted more networking opportunities between courses not just with the group of students that they have on their particular course so we're looking at ways to bring everyone the whole group together more and this could be a good way to start off conversations as well so they're open to everyone that's just part of the program that's just an exciting element in your first week but then in weeks two and three you have the option to add some practical skills workshops to your summer program there's a small to add those to your course but what they will do what they're designed to do they're very interactive immersive workshops that will provide a taste of the practical skills that we teach here at SOAS so they're around kind of media skills and political skills training and they're practical skills that you can actually take away with you so aside from the teaching of the theory and practice related to your particular program we're offering workshops that are designed to increase your kind of employability skills and careers skills so we're thinking of what you can take away with you after the summer and put into your kind of future careers here so there'll be things like CV workshops, there'll be newsroom simulations one of the workshops is a newsroom simulation where you'll be something a massive news story will come up at the last minute and you have to kind of adapt and deal with that and how you approach that other ones will be around using your voice and kind of managing the kind of power differentials that you might experience within a room and making yourself effective so there's lots of things there that you can add to your program that will enhance your kind of employability further down the line we think this will be a really attractive aspect for this summer and in the future we're not just focusing on academia we want to come away with skills that you can put towards your futures and your careers and the area you're going into so that's just to mention those and there's lots of information on the website so I would say go on to the academic summer school website each workshop is explained fully and the lectures are explained as well and any questions about those as well as I said so the guest lectures will happen after the core teaching so your teaching will happen normally at three in the afternoon so at three o'clock onwards you're kind of free the guest lectures will probably take place between three and five so we'll get you all together for those during the first week then the workshops take place also between three and five so it's still within that kind of nine to five day you'll have your core teaching up until around three o'clock normally and then the workshop to take place after three o'clock but not too late you don't have to have a really long day if you're to be exhausted but I think these will be a really good thing that you can add to your program as well just something to say on the workshops is that the spaces are limited just because of the nature of them they're very practical and hands-on will be getting you to kind of work together in groups as a kind of one big group really and in that sense we need to keep the numbers fairly small for each session so numbers are limited so if you're interested in those I'd get in there as soon as possible and add those to your application if you haven't applied yet but also the workshops run across both sessions so perhaps if someone is studying two courses you could choose perhaps whether to do a few of the workshops in both sessions but we'll always try to find space for you anyway but just to say that there is a limit to that so we're going to talk a little bit about the discounts we offer on the tuition fees and scholarships that are available we've got another question are there additional fees for the workshops so it's £100 to add shops to your program so in the grand scheme of things fairly low it's an expensive package to come to London we know the accommodation sites and the tuition as well but yeah so for the workshops there's a small fee of £100 to add that so I'm going to hand you over to Ruha now to talk over the next slide so to begin with we offer an early bird discount so that's for everyone who applies before 31st of March you'll be eligible for 10% off your tuition fees as I mentioned before if you choose to study two courses with us over the summer you'll also be eligible for 10% discount and then finally we offer discounts for students who are South Wales alumni as well as students coming from our partner institutions we have a full list of partner institutions on our website but if you are unsure as to whether you fall under one of those institutions please just drop us an email to let you know whether or not you qualify so to go back onto the ambassador scholarship we offer six tuition fee waiver ambassador scholarships so these basically cover the tuition fee one course per successful applicant and these are available for passionate students who have a desire to make a difference in the world to apply the process is very simple all you need to do is send in a video response to the question which you can see on screen so the question is so as inspire students to make a difference in the world what inspires you and how you've chosen the summer course to help you to make a difference so all you need to do is film a video response to the question we're not worried about the quality of the video so much so feel free to film it on your phone, your laptop, whatever you have with you and then you can send that to us via email which will be at the end of the presentation and for the ambassador scholarship is the 17th of March it has been extended so if you had a look on our website before you might have seen that it was the second it has been extended to the 13th of March and we will hopefully get back to you by the 20th of March by the very latest about the outcome so yeah just to say that I think there's information again on the website about the scholarship but there'll be things that we'll be asking of the winners of these scholarships over the summer so there'll be blog posts there'll be social media takeovers and there'll be various promotional things that we ask the winners to do but it's a great opportunity, we've increased it to six this year and it's really we call them ambassador scholarships because we want those people to go back to their home institutions or to just go back to wherever they're living and to really help us to promote SOAS and promote the summer school opportunities as well. That might be quite useful when you're applying fuels but a lot of our ambassador scholarships will also offer additional bursaries for two courses so understanding Africa and the colonising translation and translation studies. If you would like more information on these I'd recommend either getting in touch with us by email or looking on the course pages where there's more information the deadline for bursaries for decolonising translation and translation studies is a little bit later it's the 31st of sorry the 3rd of April so you've got a bit more time there So it's just very quick one really just to say while you're here over the summer summer school students will have full access to the SOAS library which is an incredible resource for journals and academic texts that you won't find anywhere else especially related to these specific regions that we focus on So this is just a quick one just to a lot of people come to SOAS specifically just to use the library, it's a national library and it's pretty incredible the kind of things that we've got here and as summer school students you'll have full access to that while you're here One of the benefits about studying for credit is that that gives you access to our offline journal so if you're not on campus or you've returned home you'll be able to access some library material offline that's something that we can only offer to credit-bearing students at the moment but what I would say is that when you complete a summer school you can sign up as SOAS alumni and receive all the benefits that SOAS alumni gets and that actually gives you access to the online journals and academic resources that the library offers off campus I think we've got to work around for it so if you're studying for credit you will automatically but if you decide not to study for credit I would definitely suggest signing up as alumni which you can do while you're here over the summer and that then will grant you access anyway I think to these offline journals our students say that it's really helpful to be able to access some of the material that they were reading and looking through while they were here so yeah I think that's quite a big thing to mention there so I'm going to move on to the next slide and I think I'm going back to Ruho on this one so just a bit of information about London in the summer So as John mentioned earlier you are going to be based in a location in London our campus is based in Bloomsbury so you're really in the heart of central London you're really closely located to places like Oxford Circus some of our most amazing museums and libraries as well so there will be plenty of opportunity to explore London to get up to some exciting things whilst you study with us I would definitely recommend taking a look at our blog I know I mentioned it before there are some posts that are very much centred around the things that you can do in London we've got a blog post specifically about the parks that we have we've got one about the food that you can eat here which is really great we actually have a really cool farmers market too which I'd recommend trying if you come here so definitely have a look at those and then we also have our student testimonials up on our website which are a bit more general but will also give you an idea of how great it is really to study in London and we'll be having convener interviews going up on our blog too so definitely look out for those you might see the convener of course who are interested in discussing their research and a bit more detail which might be quite useful there was another page on this slide there's so many really useful articles on it's really great to just have a little flick through so I definitely checked that out and yeah basically London in the summer is really an amazing time I think everyone's kind of hibernating over the winter and they're just looking forward to the summer where it gets warmer and you can just go outside into the parks and really explore and just access everything that London has to offer I think the summer is everyone in London really just waits for the summer and it's really really fun time to be here so obviously these courses are kind of perfectly timed for you guys in London what else is I going to say about that but there was something else but yeah I think what I'd say is just definitely check out the blogs that our previous students have written because as Ruha says there are people who have come here hear from their perspectives they've got some really interesting things that they've gone and done places they've gone to visit things that they've eaten and the food they've eaten yeah so something Ruha mentioned is we have the farmers market here on the SOAS campus every Thursday which serves amazing food from kind of all over the world lots of vegetarian and vegan options we always kind of head out there on a Thursday and try all these things we've also got a Harry Krishna stall that serves gives out free food and that's something a lot of students tend to access when they're here on campus and they do really interesting different kind of dishes that they serve up and they give that out for free or you can donate to them so we have Harry Krishna stalls here set up on campus that they're here over the summer as well so that makes food a little bit cheaper for you but also options in London for food I'm very greedy myself I've got a lot of them and yeah you'll never you'll never go hungry I don't think when you come here got some questions here on library after summer school when access to the library so your library accounts are active for three months after the summer school so I think it takes you up until around the beginning of December so if you're staying in London if you're UK based you can still go in and out of the library with your SOAS card until December and your offline access will give you access up until the end of sorry that beginning of December as well so you'll have a few months after the course to access all the materials until your account as a summer school student does expire but as I said if you sign up as SOAS alumni which will send details when we're over here on doing that and so we recommend doing that and that will give you access to the electronic journals and resources that the library offers as well so if that continues then you'll always be a SOAS alumni even if you don't study for credit yeah so again if you don't study for credit definitely sign up as alumni and you'll gain that kind of e-journal access to the online of campus access as well my first time in London how could we manage accommodation and transport in the town so we're actually going to be speaking about accommodation next in fact so that's good timing so if I had to change slides a second and we'll talk about the accommodation options and also transportation around London as well so accommodation we have a range of SOAS halls available over the summer so you can see the three here Urban Nest and Intercollegiate Halls are kind of the top two that we recommend we've arranged discounts at those halls for summer school students as well so this is a discounted rate that you're seeing on the screen Dinwiddie House that's their standard summer accommodation rate from our experience we think the top two Urban Nest and Intercollegiate Halls are probably the nicer of the three Dinwiddie House is great as well but I think in terms of what you get for your money the top two are probably the two better options but space is more limited in these two so I'd say if you're looking at accommodation book that as soon as you can and we'll talk about the booking process in a second all of the halls are located very close conveniently to the SOAS campus I think maximum would be a kind of 15-20 minute walk from I think Urban Nest Kings Cross perhaps is the furthest way but they're all within walking distance for sure and if you were to say jump on the tube the underground it would be about 5 or 10 minutes from SOAS campus so they're all great options really I would just say go and have a look at them do a bit of research on what areas you might want to stay in but they're all kind of around the same central London area Kings Cross is a great area for transport links in terms of just getting around London but also even getting outside of London and exploring the kind of outskirts and other places in the UK booking process you book directly with these halls so when you want to book actually what we in terms of the discounts that we provide for the first two I don't know which one you would like to book there's a special form and a code that we can use for booking these accommodation options so we'll give you a SOAS code and then you can go ahead and make your booking so we'll give you all of those instructions when you're ready to book accommodation and when you apply we send you all that information so you'll get that in an email it's easy to get around London whether you're using the underground whether you're using buses, even bikes a lot of people cycle so if you're used to cycling lots of people cycle around London and there's cycle lanes pretty much all over central London but I would say definitely have some experience of cycling in busy cities roughly just jumping on a bike if you don't have to cycle on a road you can cycle down the canal there's canal paths and really nice way to see London I think it's a regional canal running through central London runs around some of these accommodation options around King Cross and especially in the summer you'll see lots of people walking and cycling up and down the canal and just financially really it's really nice so there's lots of ways to get around buses are really good for quickly getting around and I would definitely suggest getting an app so you could either get a transport for London app on your phone there's also city map app and all of these information all of this info will give you when you arrive as well so those apps on your phone will basically give you all the instructions on which buses to take or which underground lines to take yeah it's always fun always a fun experience trying to get to grips with the London Tube map it takes a while but you'll get there but yeah in terms of travel in terms of these accommodation options and getting to and from campus I think you'll normally walk it pretty quickly and you'll get used to that journey very quickly most of these are a very short distance so I'd really view this as an opportunity to explore London but also to maybe explore a kind of subject that you're interested in we see doing these summer schools as a pathway into further study of SOAS so if you're looking or if you're interested in postgraduate study at SOAS then the summer schools are a way to get a taster of what we do the way we teach and see whether it's right for you also if you're not able to come for a full-time programme then it's a great way to experience what SOAS offers over the summer as well so the first step I guess of applying is making your application fee payment the link to that will be on our website but once you've got that done you can get into the actual process itself all that you're really required to provide are your personal details of course so kind of very standard information you will also be given the opportunity to provide a personal statement so I guess that kind of falls into what you said letter recommendation, written letter that kind of thing so in there you can talk about what's made you apply where you had about our course and so on with regards to the documents that you'll need to provide we do ask that you provide your academic transcripts or an off-letter or a degree certificate anything that confirms your current study at your institution if you are an undergraduate or postgraduate student the only other documents that we'd ask you to provide are based on your English language and proficiency so if English is not your first language you might want to provide an IELTS certificate or another kind of certification of your ability to speak English but the full kind of list of the types of certificates you can provide are listed on our website if you don't have any of those but you've studied that in English speaking institution you can also just provide the transcript and that would be more than enough the main thing about the application form is the personal statement why you want to join the course, tell us what experience you have already and why you're what you're hoping to gain from the course that's really useful so we pass all your application details onto our conveners once you're confirmed and confirmed as attending the course, we'll pass it on to conveners so they'll see your motivation for joining the course and what you want to learn and they'll base their teaching around that as well so they make sure that they're addressing every point that you guys want to cover but other than that it's just transcript, it can be unofficial, it can be official whatever's easiest for you guys to get and if English isn't your first language then some kind of proof of your ability or your English language level and that's about it, rest is quite straightforward I think when you apply it tells you how many pages there are and there's about 50 or so pages so it might look a bit daunting initially but they're very quick, they're literally yes and no answers so it doesn't take very long at all so if you're into teaching for those who are working you would like to learn from a university so if you're employed or working then just a certificate perhaps from your transcript or a certificate of completion of your degree is absolutely fine if you're working and have studied then we're kind of confident that your level is over as well, we just need to be sure that students have got around at least one years undergraduate experience under their belt so they don't struggle with the kind of material and the level that we teach on so if you're employed then I wouldn't worry so much about the transcript but if you've got something that you can attach then great could credit apply during the summer school help to apply in the future for a masters in the UK I mean that depends on the university you're applying with whether they can use that credit but something to say about the credit is that it's undergraduate level so it's not master level credit so I would say most of the time it wouldn't count towards a masters program but you would have to discuss that with the institution that you're applying to our application, official application deadline is at the end of May but I would say apply before the end of March so you qualify for that early bird 10% discount get your applications in now if you can other places limited do I need to be very quick yeah that's a good question Kelly so places do become limited but I'd say at this point you don't need to be very quick we're still relatively early but to be honest we haven't had a course that has filled up and we've had to close in terms of it's filled up and we can't offer anymore places so I wouldn't worry about that we've got space on our courses to accommodate plenty of students so and one of the things about our courses is again that might be different from other places is that you won't be in a massive group of students say 50 plus our courses are usually around between say 20 to 30 students some might be a bit more, some might be a bit less but it's usually quite a small group relatively head to other universities so that's quite a nice thing as well so yeah Kelly don't worry but just get it in before the end of March and you'll be fine our email address and phone number is on screen there you can touch with us and we're really looking forward to welcoming those who do apply and those who come we're really looking forward to welcoming you this summer it's a really exciting time so yeah thank you all so much and see you this summer