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this was actually the patron hindi request of this month and I know why they did it yeah because we will be watching the next shovel con one and then dawn two and we do know that there's a third dawn in the works farhan octars are we no work on the script but obviously we said we will do this in subsequent order here it is obviously we're gonna watch the original first so we can get an appreciation for what they do in the whatever I don't know I haven't seen it yet but hundred friends for the view so if you haven't watched it we saw it on Z5 currently you can go watch it there Rick your initial thoughts of dawn of time dawn of time I I don't know how to put this into words okay so it it's almost like so if somebody today made that let's say that film had just been made as is and and release to today okay so let's say that movie was made today to be made to look like an older film it would be the greatest spoof of the 70 of the 60s and 70s films of all time and that's for me why I love this movie well I think I really enjoyed this I enjoyed every minute I think and maybe who knows if it was the original purpose I can't tell you I don't think I think I think it was trying which makes it even bad all the time I think I think for the most part they were being sincere action sequences no but I I think for the most part it was trying to be a like a sincere mob film well I'm I don't know not Godfather yeah I don't know for sure but I think this is I'm glad you like it though yeah I love I really like it I think you have to go into the assumption just in the same way that I really appreciate Shahrukh Khan films of the 90s even though they have yeah immense flaws but if you buy into the 90s feel and nostalgia exactly I think you're gonna enjoy it right yeah and not looking at it with a critical hat no no you can't same thing with this if you go in and you appreciate the 70 ish well you even though this feels more like 50s or 60s it feels 10 years it feels like it's a 10 year younger older film like feels like it's from 68 if you buy into like okay this is gonna be really cheesy at times is gonna be ridiculous but this was Bollywood commercial films at the time and I think they they pulled it off and I and I really appreciate it was like a mix of there was elements of like old Sean Connery Bond right oh so much like elements on Connery Bond but in the action scenes it was more Batman Adam West yep which I was waiting to hear that was it especially at the end I was like the only thing we're missing is the curb out the graveyard fight yeah we'll talk about my wife was a huge old school Batman fan yeah obviously her and her dad watched it grown up and so it was elements of that and you saw some elements of like dramatic like Devar a little bit little bit in there little bit but honestly this surprised me even a bunch and I if you read this I don't I know you've all seen this so it's it's not giving anything away but it's even says Adon dies and the DSP is the only one who knows yeah I was like that gives away way too much because I was like at the beginning I was like okay this is just gonna be a cool gangster it's like turns into oh he's playing a double role when he died when he died I said to Inderani I said oh he's gonna have a twin but it's not yeah it's just a really good doppelganger and there's so much in this film that it's like if you can't think about this film critic like not critically but like in terms of like there's a lot of a logical stuff that goes on and it's very different than say like a film you liked and I didn't like which is a more operand even though I feel like you didn't appreciate that one I know and I should have like you did this year that's how that one here's the here's the difference you know this maintained itself in a singular thread versus that one was all over the place hard disagree but okay well yeah that's fine but hey same blood color so we have that yeah let's just get into it and if I don't even know what to start with this because it's not like our normal reviews were like okay let's break down the acting break down this is more just breaking down the feel of the I guess let's just go with let's start with the things that we liked the most they're real well let's start with what we didn't like because I have a feeling there's not a lot you didn't like like me because I can be critical of a bunch oh there's a lot of flaws obviously it's non-stop flaws I'm like I but it's hard to be like a put your critical hat on for a film like this just like it is truly for like an Amir Akbar Anthony I'm like I just did I like you said DDLJ yeah did I enjoy this film yep yes I enjoyed this film I can't break it down in term of like oh this is the greatest I'm a talk box on perform this is the this is the best drama I've ever it's like I just take that hat off in terms of just like in terms of like RRR I am very different I'm not that I'm not comparing the films I'm not of course in the same way I'm like I enjoyed the hell out of arm I wouldn't be one of my best theater experiences I've ever had my life agreed and so you can judge if you're judging that film critically you're gonna find a lot more flaws than as opposed to like somebody in my film club when we were viewed they said if you don't like this film I'm sorry you hate fun right it's true different obviously very different film very very different very different it's very similar in terms of it being the kind of film like like exactly I said this 15 20 minutes in I said when Johnny I said okay this feels like some of the original Sean Connery films that are taking themselves seriously but they're ridiculous yeah and I and that's the technology right no and they would try to do stuff and like there was one point where Big B punched somebody and you could have driven a car through the space between his hand in the face and it was it was okay can I tell you one of my favorite moments yeah he's surrounded there's like 20 other guys there and he's looking for it out what does he do a ginormous backflip and then we've got to go to the graveyard they did it 10 times but the fact that the cripple is now this superhuman and he goes back to cripple at the end he goes back and it might look like we're we're just laughing hysterically but I feel like it was so like that's part of the enjoyment of this film is though is the ridiculousness and obviously at the time obviously I can't it's hard to put your brain at the time and be like oh that's amazing it's so new that's so different right of what they did a film can take on a new life of its own in terms of and so that stuff really added to the enjoyment of it and actually I fought for the film I thought the pacing was actually really good for a commercial film like they kept it moving it never got boring yeah it wasn't like they focused too much on the dramatic moment it was like something happened all right we're gonna do this in the next scene that thing was happening and so they really kept it going and I appreciated I did too and I think if you are a film lover for the art form right where you have to simultaneously take the hat off and not be critical of it on an artistic level but at the same time you can so appreciate the I don't know that there's another film that has more zoom ins and zoom outs oh my goodness and the scoring I don't care that it was overscored it it's and that was the time that was in the same in the same way that you go back and you watch Batman from the Batman series you go back and you watch Wonder Woman which by the way who needs Wonder Woman when you've got Zena on almond what she was doing in the graveyard I straight up said that I said who needs Wonder Woman when you've got her and the throwing of the book yeah and then she was just handing out karate chop and front hand springs and back hand springs and they were all so talented doing a side dive taking four guys out at once and it made me actually appreciate remember that new Grand Vier film and I don't know if it was like just an homage just an old commercial Bollywood films is just at the end shit hits the fan right logic goes out was crazy logic goes out the window yeah kind of similar to what happened in the new Ranveer film like at the end of it yeah it was like ridiculous goes crazy fights you know it's like I don't wonder if they were kind of paying homage to stuff that happened in old-school Bollywood because man did it step up a notch there with the graveyard scene the graveyard scene is absolutely spectacular and then before it was before after that the the tight rope greatest green screen I've ever seen incredible visual effects and I loved cuz he's walking with the kids and I said oh yeah he's he's got this he's a tight rope walker and they're cutting the thing right nice okay how's it gonna get on this I said where's big B big B's got to save those kids and they cut the thing and it falls and he's still hanging on I was dying didn't lose the kids no also you could have just instead of doing the tight rope which was a perfect lasso you could have just let the rope down and climb down with the kids how about the fact that when big B earlier in the film is climbing that rope hand-over-hand right and he gets to the top and there she she comes right over the top and she goes and she starts saying what she's gonna say and she's cutting the rope and then when he falls right into the pool just perfect landing it's really nice that there was a pool that just worked out so well it but in this film and that's all stuff we like we really enjoyed and like I said some people are gonna take us laughing as the fact that we're mocking we're not mocking not at all I've really really enjoyed this film yes and I for what it is obviously I can take my critic cap off when I need to and I could put it on when I need to this is one of the times that you just it says you judge the style of films based off how they made you feel did they entertain you correct that was that was their purpose right it's entertainment yep not the not we're gonna make the most logical gangster film no as Shirley as you do that for him we've mentioned this before if you watch a Bruce Lee movie you're not you're not going in for the artistry you're not going in for great acting you're going in to watch incredible action sequences and even some of those aren't gonna be really really great the the martial arts are gonna be really really great and this isn't the only thing created in the 70s and even the 60s that felt this way it like that's why I said it's almost like if this was made today it would be the greatest spoof homage to the films of the day because they basically did everything that was popular that is now corny they did yeah in the day we might have not thought it was corny any more than if you saw someone wearing his bell bottoms today you go bro what is that whereas back then it was dude and he looks so cool and I thought they actually had quite a few good action scenes especially like the car chase scenes and the one car chase scene was like I was like before he died yeah I said if you did this if they stretch this out for the day like the car chase scene and all car chase scenes are like the one that really began car chase scenes is from Stephen Queen's movie Bullet in the first like two minutes of that film there's a 10 minute car chase scene that took three weeks to film loaded with flaws like one moment he's got a dent in the side the next moment he does it one moment a hubcap is gone the next moment it's not because they shot it over three weeks but it was groundbreaking for its car chase and that car chase scene was pretty darn good yeah it was and I know I will say this about Big B's performance I thought he did a really good job especially dramatic obviously yeah he kept dramatic we know Big B is great yeah he's one of the legends if not the legend of indie cinema right obviously there's more I'm not saying whatever but like in the beginning and then when he transferred I was like that's a different character like you could clear differences and also is there a particular voice that I've heard 10,000 Indians do when they're when they're a fun eating character it's always the same voice it sure seems to be that way I feel like I've heard VJ Roz make that voice like I know they're holding it in but it's I'm pretty sure I'm your condit it is PK yeah yeah maybe it maybe it just sounds because they have fun in there up but I was like it sounds like they're all doing the same character and hey for talk about doing your own stunt work the bouncing or I mean he did his fight scenes but the bouncing around and the diving and the leaping and the rolling that he had to do was pretty great yeah this in this film like I said call me off guard multiple times I did not expect dawn to die no like cuz I didn't read obviously what the synopsis was thankful to take that off by yeah really ruining it for any of the people that haven't seen it but like I was like oh he's not dead right he's not actually dead right and then I was like is this a dead is this a twin right this what why is what's going on yeah and there were multiple times where it caught me off guard to what direction they decided to go next everything like that too ah you thought that was the real diary there were also some great moments like I wrote in my notes one of my favorite lines it should be a shirt he says it's the scene with so by the way those musical numbers now make sense right so now we understand why he wasn't cuz when we saw the Helen number we're like dude Big B why are you not giving in to Helen's enchantments and then later on why he was doing so you get to understand those things but there's got to be a shirt with Big B on it from Don that has this quote cuz he says this to Helen at one point when he's telling her he's not interested he says I'm not interested in a girl's mind that's a great line and then I also I wrote this too I don't think I've ever seen okay so the real dad the tightrope walker with the white belt in every scene I don't think I've ever seen a faster transition for a guy who doesn't need money to a guy who desperately needs money it was 60 seconds he went I'm not doing that I don't mind living the way I live your wife's gonna die and you can't pay for it where's that guy who was trying to get me to work for him it was like perfectly instant instant desperation just add water and stir yeah it was um it was a film that definitely didn't like leave a lot to the audience to kind of figure out but not once again the I think and I could be wrong but I don't think I am the main point in making this film was to entertain people and it works and it works obviously they did a very good job it was a lot of fun all the songs were great and we I think we had reacted to at least obviously the the one with the iconic one where he iconic one and Helen we had seen earlier we we'd seen before yeah and then I think there was actually for almost a three-hour film there was only I think it was maybe four yeah that's low actually that's that's pretty low old Bollywood film in almost three hours normally there's like six to ten the other thing that shocked me because it feels so much older like interestingly and Ronnie and I had watched just let the night before we watched this last night because I finished this this morning uh we she had never seen Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf which is uh if you've never seen that please watch it Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor as well as George Siegel and I forget forget that the woman's actress all four were nominated for Oscars Elizabeth Taylor one it's an Edward Albee play it's legendary amazing film but that was 1966 okay I had to look up the year on this because I thought I it it looked and felt like the 70s but it also felt 10 years older than that Sholey is five years prior really this is a this film was three years after Sholey but Sholey feels like it's the newer film to me this feels older than Sholey as far as just the look the feel it might just be because it's more campy it's the campiness and it's also Sholey is very it's a even though there's a camp in in shoelace there is but it's mostly like this western feel and that's that's this really gives you the time of with with clothing style with interior design it I just it's the it's the I just I really don't have a word to describe the movie and how much I liked it because if this was on tv I would like if I had nothing to do on a rainy day and I just it happened to be on I would be elated that it was on because I everything from the zoom ins to the score to I thought she was absolutely for a movie that got so much silliness going on I felt like she really stayed grounded and waited in her overall objective and her character's arc like and a lot of questions I had got answered for me like at one point I'm thinking to myself so what's going to be Big B's motivation is the twin to do this why would he risk his life to do it and they answered the question and then for her okay you're in his hospital room kill him yeah why aren't you gonna kill him and the minute I asked the question she says thought of her own mouth I want him to know why he's dying so every time I had a question that was like this is so dumb the writer went I'm way ahead even I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you I'll tell you why I'll tell you why yeah yeah and so um thoroughly pleased uh yeah and I'm I think I have a soft spot for old Big B films uh because I there's not one I haven't liked yet uh and they're all so different but they because they're they're kind of I think I like them a lot because they allow me especially older films I often take my critic head off a lot more than I do current films right and so I'm like I usually just judge them I'm like did I enjoy that film I did enjoy that right it was it was a lot of fun I really it's I I my favorite is it's still probably shoelace shoelace is great I love shoelace but Amir Akbar Anthony is just I had I had way too much fun in Amir Akbar Anthony I was laughing my ass off of the classics for me but am I missing one because we had Divar and Don shoelace and then Amir Akbar Anthony is there another one that I'm missing of his of his older ones of his older classics Anand Anand oh my goodness yeah that's a great way that's a great one in terms of critic if critically acclaimed that one that is but that's more he's supporting as well he's supporting and it's a bit more as fun and funny as it is it's not campy that's not a campy movie for me like if someone were to say to me what what would you recommend that is like the campiest and most iconic you'd probably lean Amir Akbar Anthony more than Don I lean Don well if you want if you want sorry if you want comedy I would go Amir Akbar Anthony right if you want to laugh your ass off it's just stupid it isn't I love it if you want like more old-school bond with campiness that's why that's why for me I love I really love it and this one has some great action that Amir Akbar Anthony great action for the time that's what I'm saying it is for the time and I'm really interested in what they do with shoelace I couldn't stop thinking about that while I was watching it I was like okay and I think what are they gonna do with this I think the first dawn is more of a I don't know how strict but there's more strict remake of this dawn but is it strict not just in the story and plot line but is it strict does it and we don't need to know this because the film's gonna tell us so don't say no no I I'm wondering how much campy quirky is kept versus but it's gonna be 2000s I know so it's gonna be its own it's own identity it's DNA but then I feel and I think they said in dawn two it really takes on a life of its own because it's original material now yeah um and it also does I don't tell me I wonder if Big B makes an appearance I hope he does I would hope he does like maybe he could be the DS or the DS the the inspector something or or or even just one of the cops I think it'd be really cool that's another thing is so fun to watch these actors who clearly have never been trained with firearms or with anything remotely close to law enforcement it's so fun to watch them like they're walking in front of each other with their guns and they're some of the creativity in the like the fight scene with the sticks when he is so confident yeah and he's got the guy in the hold and he's talking to him and he's got him across he's like yeah see if you can get out of this it was so good and then when they were all being transferred to a different place oh yeah the fight he was trying to antagonize him and he was like he's trying to antagonize him don't do it and and then and big me antagonizes him and then he does it and then the guys in the front are so distracted they run into a brick wall yeah oh I love it's one of my favorite old tropes is the brick wall yeah big B punches a big a brick wall and it falls yeah it's amazing I love that's one of my favorite old tropes of any films I love when people fall through big walls it's so good it's dumb but it's fun yep what why we believed it back in the day I don't know but we did I think it's more because films were strict they didn't have like artistic like people went to the theater to be entertained yeah normally especially in India especially I mean I'm that was the case in America but in the 70s in American cinema you had a very real thread that had began ironically with the film I had just watched with who's afraid of Virginia Woolf from who's afraid of Virginia Woolf you get into this stuff that the academy started to recognize like midnight cowboy and then one flew over the cuckoo's nest and taxi driver and the godfather and so it became this real long string of succession of films that were profoundly serious and we're we're really at this point now 20 years removed from streetcar name desire fully immersed into reality and method acting in the 70s you had people who loved that like Big B but they were creating entertainers yeah so they were mixing that sense of seriousness with just straight up we're gonna give you something that makes you have fun yeah yeah absolutely I really really enjoyed it I'm not really gonna go over stuff I didn't like because it would be so little also it's also like I'd be like oh that fight scene I clearly didn't put it's like I can't because I enjoyed that stuff I enjoyed the me too that was bad I didn't that didn't bother me because I felt like it was I don't even need to go on about it that's like why there's nothing like this I find it hard to critique certain things that I also really enjoyed those things that I that I would be critiquing yeah and I've gotten I hope I think I've gotten better and you've done a really good job of preparing me because Corbin will let me know okay when we watch this this is where you need your head to be because I have often went in with an expectation and a hope based on my elevated artistry hat that can blind me to other aspects and so I feel like I've gotten better also I told I just told him it was a commercial masala film yeah that's all I needed to know that's all I said so I don't tell him like it won't surprise me on second pass at some point I'll watch on my Amarok for Anthony again and I'll go in with the mindset of think about this the way you did Don yeah and I'll probably enjoy it in the second viewing so so fun so it's so stupid that film anyways uh well the next film we will be watching is Shahrukh Khan's dawn yep that is that is what we had to do I told you we're watching him subsequently so we will get dawn and then you will go get dawn too after that yep but after that which will be our next classic big B film we only have a hundred to get to that's it so please let us know what that should be down below