 In the very beginning, when the DNSO was formed, then there were these constituencies and then the council. The council was supposed to be the synthesis of the discussions in the constituencies. But there was no forum where ideas from different constituencies could be exchanged. And so me started what then became the general assembly of the DNSO. And somebody proposed me to chair, to put my candidature for chairing the general assembly of the DNSO. And I said, no, listen, now I'm in no constituency. I'm just a plain user. I'm not connected with this world anymore. And the answer was, in that case, you are the best person to do it. And so I ended up in chairing the general assembly of the DNSO. And I think that that's why I'm saying this, because it was the first attempt to bring at a level that is not the top level, the council, the decision-making bodies, but to bring the discussion among constituencies. And I'd like to see this as the first step to multi-stakeholderism from the bottom up. So it was an interesting experience. It was a challenging experience. Those who have lived those days remember that we were flooded by emails. We had to set up rules in order to limit insults and all this.