 So this is number four in the DCEU world of Tizmic Rhyzms for us anyway. We did one-on-one day four. Wonder Woman, Man of Steel. Now, BVS. This is technically the second one, but we are doing it as the fourth. Who knows what'll be the fifth? This one is, I would say, more well known to be the worst or one of the worst, right? Justice League is considered the worst. This is like second running though. The perspective has now changed a lot of people now. I think this is like a masterpiece. So, yeah, so it's a nice mixed bag. I think everyone agrees the theatrical version is Garba George, and that's the one I saw. I think that's the only one I've seen. There was loads of problems with it. I'm curious how many will be solved because I already know about a couple that get solved in this version apparently, but the film itself, yeah, I guess the less set about it, the better in terms of like the people here who haven't seen it, who hasn't seen it here, by the way. Am I the only one here who's seen the Ultimate Cut? Yeah, I think you are. Hey, baby. Well, I'm sorry. And Rags, you're completely brand new on BVS, right? I've never seen any iteration of Batman vs Superman. Oh, my God. Are you not? Like, so you saw Bad of Steel, right? That Superman is in a world with a Batman, and that Batman is coming for blood in this movie. Are you excited? I'm very excited. I'm the most excited. Are you excited to see your friend? No, they'll say it. Right? Do as little as you can for commentary and criticism in terms of spoilers because Rags hasn't actually seen this and I am. I'm invested in the idea that he might be surprised by some things. Okay, yeah. There are. There will be some things there. Yes, this is this is quite a movie. They paid like, what was it? Two hundred and twenty seven million was went on this. It was very expensive. Very, very. This was an event movie. I remember. But it didn't make as much money as Civil War. No, because Civil War's good. This one. Well, this is kind of like a similar thing. Well, I don't know what to say. Like this one was not as successful as they thought it would be. Like that's that's what it was. I was a two hundred and fifty million, not including marketing. I just realized I actually have to be careful because there are shit tons of incredibly passionate fans. OK, so I didn't I didn't actually mean that because Civil War's better. It made more money. And look, I'm kidding. OK, no, Civil War just is better. Yeah. I haven't even seen a movie to make more money. All of the stuff that I've seen so far, Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman 84 and Man of Steel, they're terrible guys. They're horrifically bad. I have no idea why you think they're good. If you think they're good, you're wrong. You see, people have been demanding a Zack Snyder cut of Justice League because the 2017 version was so terrible. And all of the have to go off of Zack Snyder's quality handling of the DC characters has been Man of Steel in this movie. So maybe Rags, this movie will actually redeem Zack Snyder a little bit in your eyes. Maybe he just does so well. We can go, wow, I can actually imagine why people would say that we need to see the Snyder cut of Justice League in spite of how bad Man of Steel was. Batman V Superman was so good that, of course, people would want to see Zack Snyder's vision fully realized. And I want to say that's a good joke. I want to say that this is my incoming hot prediction. Yeah, I think that initially this would have been one of the worst in terms of what I thought coming. But Man of Steel and Wonder Woman was so much worse than I remember that I think this is going to be better than them in my personal perspective on the rankings. I think that when we consider this has to be a sequel to those films, as in the character, like Superman being a dower little shit, is actually going to be consistent now. It's not going to be like that won't present as much. It won't be as shocking. I know this film tries to take some account for the collateral damage. He saved us. I know it's going to be funny still, but yeah. I don't think it's going to have the severe world building problems that Man of Steel and BVS had. Sorry. And even though the reality is that this movie does not give you a sense of place at all. Gotham and Metropolis don't feel like places. Right. At least not very interesting places. We'll get to it. I think it'll be bad. I think it won't quite be as catastrophic as the other two. That's what I that's my prediction. Still three fucking hours. Yes, it's a long one. The theatrical is I want to say two and a half hours or something. I believe it was like two hours and 16 minutes around that point. The big controversialism with the Justice League is that it was mandated to be at the very most two hours. And so loads got cut out. That's why everyone's excited for the Snyder cut. Because I think, you know, without having seen it, I'm pretty sure this is better than the theatrical cut of BVS. I'm pretty that's just that's what I've heard from everybody. I'm willing to say that for the sake of this argument. Generally, that's the case with extended cuts and such. So people have some reason to have some excitement for Snyder's version of Justice League, sure. If you cut out like 30 minutes of a given movie, then you might be missing some important context for certain scenes and payoffs. But as someone that's watched this movie, doesn't improve a whole lot. Well, well, I don't think there's anything else to really say because the, you know, you're going to get all the preamble you need from the movie. So this is the second one. And it's like major eventisms now. So just remember everything from Man of Steel. You know, that's all you need. Maybe pieces of other movies. Who knows? Anyway, it's everyone ready on zero. Yeah, we are ready. Excellent. Three, two. Oh, no, no, no. I didn't say I'm not ready. Oh, Warner Brothers made this one. Oh, it's a leaf. That leaves my favorite character. This is a very contemplative movie, I will say. You know, it's going to be very somber, very serious. It deserves your respect. Oh, that's not trying very hard. You sort of just gave up. That's a young Jeremy Irons, too. Because Jeremy Irons is like in his late fifties or sixties as Alfred, right? So that means at this point, he would have been in his thirties, maybe. You could chase a child when you're 30. Fucking lazy ass Alfred. Oh, happy family. I hope nothing bad happens to him. I'm so happy. Now, if you're unfamiliar with this, you're about to see Batman's origin. Does anyone here know Batman's origin? No, I have not. They have never shown Batman's origin. Who's Batman? He's the one with like, he flies around. Hey, you guys. Rex, what was that gun? This is my new gun. Check it out. Rex, you're the gun guy. You've got to tell us what make and model it is. That's the 1911 of some kind. How long did it take him to make a 1912? Is there a sequel to the 1911? Oh, see, that was your first mistake trying to punch a guy with a gun. Yeah. So your mistake was he was pointing a gun at you and you tried to punch him. So that was your first. Yeah. I said that already. What the fuck? Rips it. How did you get that sent? Yeah, I mean, well, it's the visual. We got to get them pearls. I'm assuming in the original version of the comic, the pills drop around or something because everyone does the pills. Or at least I remember everyone doing the pills. Maybe I'm wrong. He was really happy with that shot. Oh, yeah. It looked pretty neat. I guess, yeah. It did, but like it's weird that he would loop a necklace around the gun and then shoot somebody. That's really weird, yeah. That's weird, yeah. And I guess that kid is fine after a fall that high. Well, I mean, but he. Hey, at least rob them. Yeah, you didn't snick anything. What was the whole point? Right, listen. Remember that. That is a bit of a flaw, but I suppose you got a bit of a lucky bounce children are adjustable. I just find it endlessly amazing that like Zach Sonata was sitting in a room and he's like, wait, Batman's mom is Martha and Superman's mom is Martha. Hmm. What can I do with this? I mean, is it is it that much of a bigger fall than the one that he takes and Batman begins? That's just what about himself. Well, yeah. Why would that even matter? I don't know. Well, I mean, people say that Batman begins is great, right? Is that the next South Pole heart take? Batman begins is poopy. The bats have accepted me as one of their own. Oh, my. I will become. What? Wait, what? Yeah. I'm assuming dream. No, no, this version of Batman can fly. Neat. Because he's in a coma after hitting his head on that fall. They're creating vortex inside of that tunnel. You know, you got all the radio acting that. He's like, were you bit by the bat? He's like, no, it just. He wouldn't believe it. Bats gave me the power of flight. Definitely getting more of the Jebus vibes, even with bats. He flies, but very erratically like an actual bat. Imagine this is his back speed. So what can you do after you got that but the radioactive bat? Well, I can rise very, very slowly into the air. Mankind is introduced to the suit. Why would you even? Why do we need the text there? I think didn't I say when we were watching Man of Steel, like this film is probably going to have blow? That's probably already examples. We've already had loads of slow mo stuff like that. I was just irrelevant, but hey. Yeah, we don't really need this entire sequence at all. Or at least it doesn't have to be this long. I just agree. This is critical. Well, I mean, like it doesn't have to be this long, though. So he's trying to get his. Oh my God. There's so many. Why haven't I left yet? Well, I guess that's technically tied to the first one. Everybody didn't evacuate for no reason. It's like, well, I guess I'm curious, though. He's got Batman-tisms at this point, right? It doesn't become Batman because of this. No, he's been Batman for 20 years. Why did he fly as Bruce and then get to a car as Bruce? You know, like instead of using the bat, like. There's no time, OK? It just feels like he'd have more options as Batman to save people than Bruce. Yeah, definitely. I would imagine. Maybe he didn't have a suit on hand. Yeah, maybe he wanted to get a plane for him. Maybe he was already in the helicopter. Maybe maybe he was he wasn't anywhere close to Gotham. And yeah, but I would assume get the helicopter to his jet and then you can get there fast. And look how much he's driving throughout the city. Like you've already lost shit tons of time. Yeah, but imagine how close is Gotham to Metropolis exactly? They're pretty close. They're across the river. Yeah, they're like across the river. I know. They're very close. He's re-spoiling it, Fringy. God damn it. Rax hasn't seen this movie. I haven't even listened to him. I wouldn't even listen to him so much. I've got to be honest with you guys. Like, I'd be getting the fuck out of here. Yeah, I'd be like, I saw what happened. Oh, the black hole. Oh, cool. Guys, don't look at explosions. Move away. No, away. You idiot. Get out of there, you fucking idiot. Why is this guy still in this building? Oh my goodness. Oh, damn. So Batman's friend was in the building that they laser apart. Why didn't he get out with the rest of them? Yeah, was he just standing there? He wanted a good view? It's emotionally effective if it made sense. Yeah, why are you running into that? Also, is that death? That shit is like, that shit is thick, right? Batman's going to get cancer now. Yeah, I'm not an expert on like building debris, but when it's of that scale. Of course, what does it mean? Well, I know that a lot of 9-11 first responders got very ill very quickly after 9-11. It's definitely not. Batman's lungs, though. There are, he has a power, he has powerful lungs. Oh, hi. Wow, there's a lot of people here, actually. That's a shame the kids didn't. They're not hurt at all either. Yeah, it feels like we're in a different area now. Okay. That's because they're jumped up, dummy. If only you got out of here sooner. It's all like there was an emergency event that would have prompted that. Oh, gee. Wow, that's great. No, a little retort. What are you doing? They just stand as if he's about to fall on them. Children do not have fear. Well, they get stunned with fear. Oh, I can take this. Guys, it's a natural reaction for a person to just freeze like a deer in head lights. And, you know, when it comes to dangerous things, it's... You know what? We're going to find your mom. Where is she? Is that where? Well, luckily, I told them to evacuate so she should be fine. And luckily, if she wasn't stupid, she would have evacuated herself anyway. By the way, we should have mentioned this. This scene when everyone saw it was like, oh, this is major compensation for the first movie. Everybody was sitting there wondering how many civilians got hurt, and the film never really addresses it. But this film is like, you know what? Ripped on and it's chance! Mercy on my soul. Superman, you were a dick, which is nice. Oh, yeah, that is nice. Actually, not the terrible start. No, I think that seems pretty good out of a side of a couple bits and bobs that could be... Yeah, I'm fine with it. Yeah. I mean, outside of the part where it's like, Wayne's employees probably should have been already out of the building. Everybody should have been. But everyone's, like, weird. At least it's just an impurity, right? The gloomp. Yeah, untouched gloomp. Guys, we got Schleem for lunch. Here's a rock. Damnit, Marie, they're minerals. Fuck you, rocks. They have a cloth. Oh, Lord, they put a gloom in there. Oh, man. God, it's alien cum. Oh, that was easy. Man, it feels like... You probably want to do that in a lab, brother? Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I guess he just knows that you have to break it up and you don't break it. Gox, go celebrate the Krypton. Wind is bad luck. Oh, no. He's Coca-Cola. He's good luck. Oh, there she is. Miss Lane, Jimmy Olsen, photographer. They give Jimmy Olsen a really interesting arc in this movie, though, that they maul her. Well, we don't intend to talk about the source, but if you're a fan of Superman and, by extension, Jimmy Olsen, you'll be excited to see that that is Jimmy Olsen. And he's going to be pretty awesome in this movie, I will say. He's got a pretty big role. You don't look African. He's South African, okay? All right. Yeah, they're long enough you'll eventually turn black, but these guys knew. Are you a terrorist? They didn't tell me. I mean, I would have suffered from a hello. It would be funny if he was like, I don't like that word, honestly. I'm not a fan, but, you know, kind of. What are the terrorists tend to call themselves freedom fighters? They don't like to be called terrorists. Say what you're saying, General. It's just a camera. I don't know, but you just exposed. No one is different. Oops. Okay, so question. If you were trying to smuggle in a tracker or whatever the fuck that is. Why would you even tell your camera? Yeah, why would you use the camera at all? Why? Why not put it in the heel of your shoe? You know? Yeah. Fucking noob. How about shove it up your own ass? Literally, yeah. Jimmy Olsen is with the CIA. Jimmy Olsen. Well, all right, so. Jimmy Olsen. So like, if you shoot the CIA guy, like, you're fucked. Python, we have lost our asset on the ground. Repeat, we have lost our asset on the ground. Maybe we shouldn't have given him such a blatant tracker ethic. I'll put that, yeah. Well, there'll be friendlies in the blast zone. It's fine if friendlies are in the blast zone. I don't know if this Warlord dude thought what happened. Like, what? Yeah, of course now they're going to like, blow you up. He just killed the guy. Duh. What an idiot. Maybe they were the arrogant rags, okay? That's the answer. Yeah, they're arrogant. Ignorance is not the same as innocence, mislead. But I'm both. Unless that's some sort of big themy thing. There are a lot of them. If in doubt, maybe it's them. Oh, no. Oh, that guy looked so chatty when he turned around. Like, oh, no, please. We just had a beard last night together with a really nice conversation. I'm not really. It was just in the middle of the pond. Oh, so they had like guys embedded in the thing, I guess. Yeah, but why would the guy who was embedded be the one who found the tracker and called them up? Wow, the eyes on that one. Did he shoot the floor? Yeah, they're reacting very slowly to all the gunfire. What's that, someone in that tank? I don't know. It'll fuck up the controls if there isn't. Could have used that one. Maybe, maybe disabling it or killing them here. Rip those bodies. See, that is said, quickly he's coming. So they know because. So they know. Okay. I have some harsh fingerage. That's just rude. You know, I will say, I like the soundtracks in most of these movies. The soundtrack's great, but it's handzimmer, so, you know, naturally. Handzimmer and junkie XL. Yeah, really good combo. The Superman got a client and stopped the missile. Well, what am I doing in Africa? I would say Lois has some incredible. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, I've never seen this one before. Also crowned. If Avalos. I don't know why you're smiling. There are bullets everywhere, pal. If Avalos' life is threatened, don't be too concerned. He'll get it. Fingers on the trigger for starters. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That'll do it. Dead. Yep. I don't think he has any problem with killing people. I feel like that there were ways for Superman to take out that guy without killing him, though. Oh, fuck, yes. Throughout every single, all of it. Yes. I don't even know that he has a problem with killing people. He had a problem with killing the last Kryptonian, but does he have an issue with taking lives? I don't know. Did Man of Steel a sad one? Well, once he had it, once he got a taste for death, you know. I don't think we have enough context. Like, I don't even know what the reference would be. Yeah, I don't know what his values are. He's sad about saving people. They killed my terrorist husband. They killed my terrorist husband. They burned. So you kind of get what they're going for here. No, the logic is that the terrorist shot these people and burned them to make it look like Superman did it. But like, there are bullets and casings everywhere. Yeah, that's pretty true. So I'm pretty sure that's why they burned. How could anyone ever fall for that? I'm also pretty sure that his heat vision doesn't actually set people on fire. It's like it cuts them in half. I'm pretty sure this woman's saying he did it. He came down, then came fire. The world has been so caught up with what Superman can do that no one has asked what he should do. You think that there would be some smartphone footage, like, I don't know, what shows up in the boys. Oh, they think Superman is responsible? That's so stupid. That is, wow, I didn't even remember that. There are a few important things, right? So you remember how that book got shot? Like, that's the proof that he didn't do it, right? Because there's a bullet in it or something? Well, also there's all the not evidence. What, what, what, what, what, what, what was he saying? Lois Lane can testify. I know, but I guess they don't care. Then why would they have sent her? That's also just not how his lasers work. Yeah, bullets, casings. Yeah, I know. Terrible. I know. I know. Do we ever find out how Superman knew to be there to save it, by the way? Was that just? Superman just knows these things, I guess. Okay. If only we had Superman here to break up this football fight. One punch, fucking kills him all. Things could ugly in this city tonight. I can't wait to see what happens. Well, that's the thing. It's time to introduce our third hero, I guess, because you're familiar with Wonder Woman from her movies, so now it's time for the next one. You see the bats? That might give you a clue. That came, the bats came out of the chimney. Well, whenever he goes on a mission, he keeps a briefcase full of bats and he releases them during the fight. They come out. We got it. Oh no, he left his bat-a-rang. He's very good. He's like Batwoman. Oh no, you like Batwoman. What's the cat-a-braided for his arms? Oh, whoa. The DCEU has given us Wonder Rapist, Catastrophic Collateral Damage Man, and now whatever they're going to do with Batman. He leaves bat-a-rang behind man, which is unacceptable. Yeah, we can't. It's so dark. It is pretty dark. Yeah, I'm tempted to turn my lights off here. It's pretty rude to refer to him as hip, but all right. Well, they don't know what gender he goes by. It's a bat person. It's bat and bat. That is a devil. He's really subversive if the cop was like, is it Batman? I guess the cops didn't clear the house. Is it Batman because of the bat-a-rang we saw walking in? Yeah, because Batman's well-known at this point, right? Yeah, he's been around. Like, how would the police not be aware of him, especially in fucking Gotham? I'm not sure. As we later know, Commissioner Gordon... Precisely. Yeah, Commissioner Gordon exists and he knows about it. Wait, and if the bat signals up too, then I don't know. It's funny because they try to make a horror scene here, almost. But I know that it's Batman, so it's tough. Well, it's a bit of a conflict for you, right? Because of everything we know about Batman. We're like, wait, why are we doing horror? Yeah, he's been around for like 20 years. This is like the kind of scene that only works in a movie where this is like Batman's first year. Yeah, Batman's first night or something. Yeah, definitely. That could be re-effective as well. That could be really cool. But given the context, this doesn't work because he's been around for 20 years. There's the bat signal. They've got Commissioner Gordon. And you get this funny shot. How do you see him? Look at him. How do you not see that? Why? Why would you shoot him? Why would you shoot him? That's Batman. Batman is Spider-Man now. Well, can he crawl on the walls? Oh, Christ! Wow. I agree with that guy. Well, that was lucky. I never saw him before. Oh, he's really killed when he was dying. I don't care if he just almost shot me. Wait, so he's aware of who Batman is. Any shot anyway? And he doesn't realize that he's like an ally to the cops? Well, yeah. Depends how long he's been a bit of a... I don't know. I can believe that there's cops who are like, fuck Batman, you know? Why didn't Batman just leave in the first place? Because we needed our scary Batman shot. Sorry. But I hate to be the one that says because he's Batman, but he's literally Batman disappearing like very quietly and quickly is kind of his thing. He could have crawled on the wall at any time. Oh, no. My bloody shirt, it was in here. Well, she's sad. So far, I'm rooting for neither of them. Psychopath Batman versus apathetic Superman. I'll take Batman. Yeah, see? I told you. Wait, so she... Did she not read that? Ever? Wait, so this is like the key to proving his innocence. It's just the proof, yeah. One bullet as though there isn't a bunch of bullets in it. Well, that's not true at all. Yeah, it's super like... Oh, I know. I know. It's ridiculous. Is it seriously that... Because I've forgotten. I was gonna cook. Surprised you. I will say it's really nice to see these two back together. Their relationship was like the foundation of Man of Steel. Oh, yeah. So well flushed out and developed and everything. It's certainly not the stereotype that two hot people get together because they do. The woman I love will be willing. Okay. Clark and Lois are together in the comics and that's why this is good. All right. We need to have Clark and Lois together because that's how it is in comics. I'm saying I want to understand what happened. So this... Are we simply that this is like right after the... The Africa incident? Shortly after. Soon after, yeah. Soon? Soon. Like this is their first time talking since then? Possibly. But like there was a hearing. Think when you got like... Do we started dating Superman? Like... Maybe they did talk about it and she's like... And she's just like, oh, it'll be great. And then the thing happened and she's like, it's not that great. Actually, I changed my mind. Doesn't it normally take a while for like things to take place between the actual incident itself and then like a witness coming to the Capitol and testifying that Superman was there and totally killed her whole village? No, why would you do that? I'm taking ages to clean it up. You might do water damage this stuff, dude. She's just like, look, I'll get out. To ruin that tub for me? I sure do love tub kisses. What up? They love each other very much. They had to remind us of that because it didn't exist in the other movies. Kind of made the best character of the movie. Comes to us all, Master Wayne. Even you got too old to die young and not for lack of train. Blood rain from the sky! He's one of those actors where I could enjoy a bit of what. And everything. Oh yeah, definitely. I like him as Alfred a lot. Narky Alfred is pretty good. The last night was productive. Yeah. Kanai as if. It's Russian. Contracts all over the globe, but he's based out of the Port of Gotham. Weapons and human trafficking. You don't even know if he exists. It could be a phantasm. One that wants to bring a dirty bomb into Gotham. Ah, high stakes, man. New rules. We're criminals, Alfred. We've always been criminals. Nothing's changed. Oh, yes, it has, sir. Everything's changed. I thought that the branding had been going on for a while because there's a whole prison thing with it, right? Yeah, so did I. Yes. Like, apparently Alfred's been oblivious to this for a while. Starch. That's how it starts, sir. The fever. The rage. The feeling of powerlessness that turns good men cruel. Trailer line. True. He's not a bad line. Yeah. No, that's fine. Oh, no. Here we go. The real best character of the movie. Ah, ahoy, ahoy. Here, Rags. Who do you think that had us? Lex in front of the corp. How you doing? Ah! My father in the company after himself. We're a cool company. We're not one of those lame companies. We have a basketball court in our lobby. Right checks for Lex. Hey, Rags, look. It's your favorite combo. He sure is. Yeah, exactly. I could tell that it's the villain, yeah. I think it was Providence. One of my rebuilt Metropolis crews found it. A little souvenir from the Kryptonian world engine. Is that a Jolly Rancher? Also, it's going to be impossible to listen to here without picturing Mrs. Incredible. The fragment is of a radioactive xenomineral when we expose General Zod to the mineral. Wait, they weren't just allowed to do that. Profound biodegradation, decaying Kryptonian cells. Like, I would have thought they might have even buried him, you know what I mean? Not buried him literally, but buried him like, secret-wise. Like, oh, there's no alien body. Shut up. He's like an extraterrestrial, so I imagine they would want to study him. But like, how come these guys are allowed to do it? Yeah, I guess you can sort of hand-wave it away. They have access to the Kryptonite, so I don't like it at all. That's technically everyone does, because it landed in loads of different places. Yeah, like, it was the crash ships that they've been getting Kryptonite from. I think there's like a DCEU equivalent of the vulture running around. It's like a guy was running a scavenging crew. All the Jolly Ranchers make them blue. Done. He's got himself access to the crash ship. I just, all right, I guess. It looks like they just built a plastic shell around it. Like, he gets access because he's proven that he's got a material that he can synthesize into something that can threaten Superman, right? Yeah, yes. I just, okay, I guess there's some form of a through line there, I don't know. Yeah, you think they'd send people with him? Yeah, like, it certainly wouldn't allow him to go in alone. Good soundtrack. Yeah, I like it. They have a lot of choir in this film, from what I remember. I like choir. I do too. Shut up. This looks bigger on the inside. I wasn't about to say the same thing. It's already filled. He wants Zod's body. Surely he can't have Zod's body. There's no way they're going to give you Zod's body. That's like one of the most incredible biological finds in our entire history. Why would... Okay. It's cherry. Even touching it. Why? Why would he open his mouth for that? That's weird. Yeah. I have corona. Oh, that was his own scene. They didn't need that. Yeah, they didn't. They could have cut that. Oh, why? They literally could have cut that. Why not? Was that in the theatrical version? I think it was, because I know that scene. I think it was. To look him in his eye and ask him how he decides which lives count and which ones do not. But he was holding a gun to her head. I was just going to say, what she just said is something I would like to ask this this Universal Superman, actually. The implication was the local village got like fucked up after Lois was saved by him. So he could have helped them. Is that... He could have helped, maybe. Oh, it's the legs guy. All right. So if he's got her sent. We have a memorial for Superman. To all people that died in like Metropolis here and they have a statue of Superman who is responsible for that. That's what I think. Oh, I saw it as my favorite spot. Look, yeah, like he still stopped the enemy force. He did a really bad job. He did save the Earth. Yeah. He did a bad job of saving the Earth. But he did save Earth. He didn't take him away from Metropolis or at least, well, he did in space. And then they went immediately right back down to it. So look, I just want to know this guy is... Wow, you are strong. Why are you doing this? I don't believe you can hold on. No, I don't either. It's clear he's going to wire. So this is why I'm sorry I'm doing it. West Civil War is really good because the lady who talks to Ironman in the beginning. You had one job. You know what he's doing. She makes it clear where the issue lies. So I wouldn't mind knowing from this guy's perspective. Is he just mad that he doesn't have his legs anymore? No. He had a picture of his family. He laid down there. The family, they don't have their legs anymore. But again, I need to know if he... Does he just blame Superman because he was around when it happened? Because Zod did it or because... That's what I mean. Kind of did it, but not really as much as Zod did. Because remember, Ultron was created by Tony. That's why it gets such an impact. Yeah, it's a hate crime. Hate crime. Hate crime. It's what? False God. Why is this in the news? Well, they hated it. End of love affair with man in the sky? Question mark. I know that this is just my perspective, but I really hate the angle they've taken about making Superman a God-like figure when the whole idea is that Clark Ken is just a regular guy. Yeah, I don't like that either. I really personally dislike this. Do you feel like there's an LGBT couple back there? There would totally be people worshiping him as a God. Sure, but I just get really frustrated that throughout this whole film, the through line is God, God, God, Devils, God. That's really annoying to me. I do remember that. Yeah, that's heavy in this one as well. Well, I remember how crazy on the nose all the Christian imagery was on the last one. Yeah, it was a knock shift. It's probably shit. We're almost 50 minutes in. I think it's worse than this one. Not much has happened for 40 minutes. I'm not a cop. I'm a reporter. Oh, that's even worse. Young lady living. Only people scared of him. People who got reason to be. Scared of who? Well, there's a new kind of mean and a helpful way that he hasn't heard about. How would you? How would he not if he's a reporter? You're a reporter. There's a dude running around branding people with a bat. That's a pretty crazy headline. Also, he's been doing this for 20 years. Like, how fast to know about Batman. If there was a vigilante in Germany running around branding people with a giant Nazi symbol. Oh, don't tell them. Everyone would fucking know about it. It would be like this huge thing. Why would that be on your screen? That seems really dumb. I was about to say. I was about to say like, that's so over. Like he could have just took the phone away. The camera angles were enough to tell us that it was what he was doing. I don't know. This bat vigilante has been consistently targeting the port and the adjacent projects and tenements. And as far as I can tell, the cops are actually helping him. Why aren't we covering this? Yeah, apparently people in the tropos just don't know about the Batman. How? I would argue it's the most interesting story they have. Like, surely in the Nolan trilogy, Batman's like people knowing about Batman wouldn't just be limited to Gotham. Yeah, absolutely. I'd be running around in a bat. Do I just said? Like, if there's a psycho killer branding people with fucking Nazi symbol in Germany, we're all going to know about that. Why does he not? Why is he acting like this doesn't mean anything? Yeah, I don't. Sorry. I didn't mean to equivocate the bat symbol with a Nazi symbol. He's like, by the way, like there's this internationally known incident. I found this thing there that shouldn't be there, and it's a really big deal. And he's like, No match. My guys in the crime lab never seen one before. It's called a bullet. You shoot people with them. Recovered from the scene of the firefight in the desert. Not sold anywhere commercially in the world, even black market. So? No, talk about love affair with birds as Superman. I mean, just the idea of like this really muscular dude in a cape in a cow with bat ears running around beating people up and not getting himself killed. That would be news everywhere. Dude, imagine the testimony from that cop. He's like this hideous creature crawled along the ceiling. I shot him several times in my gun, which wouldn't die. It's something like that. You should be like, oh my god, this is something. Oh, shit. It's weird. Was he on PCP? Was he was he was he a bat person? Did he inhale the angel death? This all feels weird though, because this whole whole history. Stalts. Was he on the Hydra saliva? My dad and we said that Kentucky Mash was the secret to health. Oh, was that it? He died. This is very early. I kept it just this. It's just like the only thing he ever said. Had a problem. Maybe one day dad will come back if I just keep everything the same. And gorge our faces and chocolate covered garbage. Maybe one day dad will come back if I just keep everything the same. It's a weird thing to say out loud. Yeah, well, the sign of good dialogue is when characters overly state reasons they do think. Can I call you Jew? You can call me whatever you like. Okay, whore. Take a bucket of piss and call it Greenwich P.H.T. Take a weapon of assassination. Remember that line? You don't think dad would mind to do if I changed just one thing in this room? That should be upside down. We know better now, don't we? The devils don't come from hell beneath us. No, no, they come from the sky. But then that means angels come from underground. That sounds like a trailer thing, but like, could you explain? Well, aliens are going to beat us up. And why does she not trust him anymore? She trusted him enough to get him like access to the body, like 15 minutes alone with Zod's body for some reason. No, wasn't that the guy's call? I guess so she... But I thought she trusted him. She, well, she seems to not. She seems to have clued on to what he's probably looking to do. Yeah, because she was the one who needs... Okay, 1981. Okay, guys, guys, guys, 1981. That's when the lanes died. So that means three years later, when Max Lord was granting everyone's wishes, little Bruce Wayne wished for his parents back and he had to renounce his wish. Oh my. Blued. Oh my goodness. There's really runny tar in there. Could this be another dream? Like the bat tunnel? But like, why touch it? It's kind of gross. Yeah, even in a dream, I wouldn't touch it. Even in a dream? Even in a dream, I'd be like, that's gross. Oh my goodness, it's Batman. Oh no. No, it's Mandat. What? Dad? I've been vampireing. My dad turned into a zombie bat. Bruce, did you have the zombie bat during the end? Yeah, I did. The therapist is like, you need to stop thinking about bats. There's a lot of drinking in this movie. How else do you deal with everything in this universe? Do you think Lex Lutha is the white Portuguese? Well, Bruce Wayne can't break into Lex Lutha's house. Bruce Wayne won't have to. He's been invited. Oh, neat. Oh, that's convenient. Neat, yeah. Boy's rich. I guess the convenience element is he needs to get into the house and Lex is doing something that Having a party. Yeah, that's that. That allows for advice. Oh, it's night bat. Ha ha ha, jokes on you, Batman. So that is Jared Leto's Joker that killed Robin then, yeah? Ah, yeah, I guess. Some people have theorized that Jared Leto's Joker is Jason Todd. Oh, God. Why do we need that? We need to see the bad ass. Look at it! Look at it! We want all of it! Well, he's such an unnecessary ingratuator shot. Well, yeah. So I would in sort of if Zach were here, I'd be like, and we are on the cutting room in the cutting room. I'd be like, do we need the taking off the blanket from the car, the cover? And do we need the shower shot? Do we need? No, listen, if it doesn't happen on screen, it doesn't happen, which means that we don't show Bruce Wayne showering. He never showers. Who's that Bruce Wayne? How the fuck do you not know who Bruce Wayne is? You're a shitty journalist. It's like not knowing who Elon Musk is. Yeah, like Bruce... Oh, no, it's you. Count that and know. Remember, that was her first appearance, right? Yep, this is her first appearance. Yeah. Dark people are out here. She might slug something in people's drinks. She might slug an emotion interacting. You better be careful. You know what? I wouldn't want her to do that at this point. She's so funny. Send a service card to her in the basement. Go down the stairs. Hey, look, the account for a superman having super hearing. Neat. Wow. Wait, is she annoyed because she's like, that's not what happened? I'll tell you the real truth. Zuzi? And she tells like four different stories and all don't make sense. It's like you're getting the lore wrong. That tall, skinny Asian woman, that's supposed to be Mercy Graves, right? I think so, yeah. Interesting how like she's... They don't give her fucking anything to do in these movies. I'm sorry. How are you in here? Yeah, dude. Like, I know you're Bruce Wayne, but these bad men make it worse. They should make it worse though, because everyone's like, oh my god, it's Bruce Wayne. God, security is so overrated, isn't it, guys? Help you, Mr. Wayne. I just thought the bathroom was down here. I must have... At last, Martini was too, too many. That was your excuse. That is the shittiest lie ever. Also, wait. He's trying to play as drunk you arrived like five minutes ago. Oh, you're just gonna leave him in there? Don't leave him in there. Okay. Oh, god. Yeah, you can stay in the server room, Mr. Wayne. Why is the server room a staircase away from, like, the main party? It seems so strange. Yeah, it looks like it's showcased as well of, like, the whole... You're like, check out our server. Glass panel, it's nothing. The bittersweet pain among men is having that was with power. Because that is paradoxical. And, um... Stop it. I hate, you know, arguing with that patient, but this is a just really shitty flex-luther in general. I'm afraid we already have a window washer. The red capes are coming. It's not Lex at all from what I know about Lex. Well, I don't know what you thought you heard out there, but I know what you can prove, and it's nothing. And knowledge is power. And I am... No. It's just a shitty villain in general. You can't take him seriously. Yeah. I own Metropolis. My technology built it, my will keeps it going, and nearly two-thirds of its people work for me whether they know it or not. Even you have to admit it's a model of efficiency. Um... No, what am I? I suppose I say. Oh! Look who's... Look! Ow! What's your position the Bat Vigilantean got? Civil liberties are being trampled on in your city. Good people living in fear. Don't believe everything you hear. Didn't you destroy the city? I've seen it, Mr. Wayne. He thinks he's above the law. So do you. You, the planet. Yeah. Just as you know, she thinks they're above the law. It's a little hypocritical. Considering every time your hero saves a cat out of a tree, you're at a puff-piece editorial. About an alien. That's not above the law, though. If you wanted to, save a cat out of a tree. That seems pretty chill. I love it in movies when people trail someone like right behind them when they get out of the city. Well, he's fucked now. Unless there's something on TV? What the fuck? Dude, really? Oh no, there's a fire somewhere. You just let... You followed him and he's right back here? Does Superman not care about this? Okay, why would he... Why would you even... Why would you want to... ...train him to get it? Because I was actually gonna compliment the discussion between Batman and Superman. He's like, it wasn't too bad. But now I'm just frustrated. I like all these stupid things. Why would she want him to know she stole it? And why would Superman give up following the Batman? He's chasing... Like, yeah, okay, someone's stuck in our flaming building. Okay, but... His priorities are all over the place. So this is something I kind of wanted to dress. It's funny because Wonder Woman is actually kind of like cool and mysterious in that scene, but we know she's not. She's a fucking ditsy idiot. She's a goopy dipshit. Um, so questions for Superman. He allowed one person in a flaming building to distract him from the mission of like stopping this vigilante that he considers worth stopping. There's not a time on Earth that someone isn't in trouble, you know, in terms of how she performs. So I wonder how he reconciles that. And of course, I don't want to be too mean. That's precisely what he was asked by that woman, right? Like, how do you decide which lives are worth saving? So was it literally just that... Because he was aware of this one? In which case, if that was Superman's deal, would he not work with the government and be like, tell me about all of the people who need saving and I will go nuts? Man, this is real subtle. Oh my God, it's like the other movie when he was surrounded by skulls. Except they're all alive. He still is surrounded by skulls, I guess. I feel like that story would be pretty cool. Like, he's saving people constantly and it has like a huge mental toll on him. Because like, if he can't, if he doesn't function at full capacity, then he's like a bad person, that sort of thing. He's like dragging the ship that's completely on its side. Well, as long as the people inside know that, and they're just, you know... Oh, damn, they're fucked. Ow. How he was waiting? He just knew. His superpowers knew that... Also, it's very lucky that thing didn't just fucking split and break under him. But how did he know this would happen? Did he hear it? It's Black Science guy. Black Science. This is man. Wow, that's really good. See, yeah. I like that the whole building is flooded but they still kind of paint up here. Hey, they grabbed it on the way up. I like that you're showing him save people. That's a plus. I'm not a fan of how once again he's super apathetic about it but I guess that's consistent with the previous movie. Then there's like... Wait, does he do this a lot? Is this like a constant? Does he have a job? Like, why is he just floating up there? Like, why isn't he just getting down to business immediately? This is what I mean about the apathy thing. He's like, well, guess I'll save these people too. Like, so does he only save the people that have the giant Superman logo painted on their roofs? He goes for them and he's like, you guys need to paint something up. I'll be over there then. Like, he doesn't care about collateral damage and saving certain people's lives sometimes but now he does. I have to ask, why are they painting the big Superman logo rather than just a standard SOS? Well, just help. Well, the SOS could be the Superman logos and just an O in the middle. Just cover both their bases. Maybe the Superman logo was already there. They just, they wanted to paint that up there before the flood as like, hey, we believe in hope. How come Dad never left Kansas? He let him die. He stayed for long. Because he let him die. He's got a passive aggressive calmness. I mean, he probably left Kansas. He probably left Kansas depending on where the tornado took him. Yeah. Not sure I can talk right now, honey. I'm cooking your meal for your father. Oh, wait, he's dead. Oh, wait, I'm after all. Whoopsie. Only there was something that some super-powered individual could have done. This is a new scene. It could be DARPA black box. Maybe they gave them out to the rubbles to test in theater. Using live soldiers as guinea pigs. That's what testing is. This is such a fucking torture. And this is what makes you such a good reporter. Stuff like this still shocks you. Wait, why would that make her a good journalist? Why? I shall. They tested bullets on people. It was like, yeah. Well, if it's shocking, right, technology, wouldn't they have found this out already? They collected it. Surely they would have like, did they just ignore all the bullets in the scene of the crime, I mean? I don't know. Who is he? Wait, so when he brands criminals, they end up dead by, like, extra- Why would criminals kill criminals? Yeah, I was trying to figure out why that happened to him. Yeah, why would they work for Batman? Why would the kid, like, surely they would hate Batman? Yeah. Surely the brand would be like a mark of honor, almost. Wait, why would criminals kill someone? Well, he brands people that are like human traffickers and rapists and like, you know, it's basically a means of signaling, hey, these are like the, on the bottom of the food chain, I think. Like, okay. Why would criminals? Well, they actually explained this. Don't worry. The building from, uh... That was Professor X. What is that? Why did you, okay. What the fuck do you want to help you, Stan? Huh, funny. That's mean, ableism jokes. Stop it. Why would you... I used to not be able to do that. My wife walked out on me. Is it who are you? I thought it was family. Oh, wait, so... I can't even piss. Standing up. You can't do anything standing up. Wait, so he's mad that he lost his legs. But she's like, hey, he's sitting down every day. It's really not that bad. When he was placing his picture of his wife and daughter down, I could have sworn that it was... Like, maybe the daughter died? Maybe he's... Yeah, maybe his daughter died as his wife left and he can't piss. That Russian guy, could he just tell one of the inmates to kill this guy? Why? Is it because he talked? To make Batman look bad? Maybe? I think so, yes. Yeah, I think that's why this is happening. Oh, okay. That makes more sense. Right. Although, but then why is Batman... He knows that people get killed. He's still... But he can't do anything about this, right? Oh, yes, you can. Why is he still branding people? Well, stop branding people, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. If Batman is the branding people, we'll get them killed. Then why is he still branding people? Yeah, that does make the question of like, you may as well just kill him yourself if you're just gonna allow it. Like, if you know this is a cause... Oh, look, Russian manhunter. Is the US providing experimental military arms to rebels in Africa? Why would I fucking tell you? You belong in here. Here's the truth. A reporter got greedy for a scoop and went where she shouldn't have. Superman acted like some rogue combatant to rescue her and people died. Don't invent a conspiracy theory to put back his halo. The fact that you think Superman did this is fucking nuts. You're a Martian manhunter as well, so now I'm super wondering why you'd be... So, I thought you'd do a drop-off to find copy. Okay, can you give me like a shortie? Who's Martian manhunter? I have no fucking idea. Like an alien shapeshifter from Mars who could fly and do... I thought he's part of the... Well, he was part of the Justice League. Like, he was 50. He can also become implacable. Phasing. Phasing through walls. He can walk through walls. Neat. So could you if it was 1938, but it's not 1938. WPA ain't higher and no more. Apples don't cost a nickel. Not in here. Not out there. You drop this thing. Is that like... Is that his meme? Just stop doing the right thing. Stop doing the stories that are interesting about the bat vigilante in the neighboring city. Talk about baseball. That's the stuff that people will want to read about. He thinks it's two on the nose. What is going on back here? No guys, come on. Let's go. You're fucking looses. Even in fictional universes, he's not funny. I think Jon Stewart's funny. You think Jon Stewart's funny? I think Jon Stewart's pretty funny too. He's way better than Trevor Noah. Oh, everyone is. Is Wonder Woman more funny than you? Wait, who are we right now? I have left way more Wonder Woman than I've ever laughed at Trevor Noah. So now we're in museum with Wonder Woman. Why? I have a song in my head. Did I miss something? It's the sword of Alexander. It's the blade that cut the Gordian knot. You know, something that rare, you'd think you'd have better security than this. I know. I don't know. Isn't this like incredibly amazing? I don't know. But aren't those like getting presented and out of the set? Oh, okay. Never mind. Oh, well. Yeah, I mean, high security on fake. I mean, it's just a historical artifact. I don't like it. Well, it's fake though. What fake stuff? This is Shostakovich's. Whoa, touching me too. I mean, she's not really one to talk about me too. It must be really uncomfortable that metal digging into your neck. No, I'm sure it's great. I'm not really not being comfortable at all. No, she's used to wearing uncomfortable shit like in Wonder Woman who is beginning with the tiaras. I bet with the dress, nine out of 10, I don't know that she's going to wear it anyway. Literally rape. Doesn't have to be wearing a dress. Oh, I don't think you've ever known a woman like me. A woman that can act? I think it's still your drive. I borrowed it. We'll find it in the glove compartment of your car. I think that she is actually doing a better job here than she was in Wonder Woman movies. I think she's doing a lot better here. Yeah, I agree. Maybe she's not sure how to seem back to sales or anything. What happened to this? Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. That's not as it's representation of what it is. It's the scene. It's the scene. She's got a mystique. No, it's not the scene yet. It's not yet. We're not there yet. It's almost, well, we're... The more we learn about her, about her, the least interesting she gets. So wait, just to clarify, she said she saw everything. She looked at everything on the USB, right? Yeah. So I'm going to have a question about that later. Wait, hold on. This is probably going to be really important going forward. Well, this scene is mainly the visual. We can talk over it. That's Darkseid's thing. It's Nightmare. The Nightmare, yeah. Look, it's got a War Omega thing. Just going to show up. Fuck yeah. Doesn't Darkseid burn that symbol into things with some shit? I don't know. Yeah, that's my logo as well because he has a mega... Yeah. I love this post-apocalyptic school bus. Yeah. This is the nightmare world, spelt with K.M. Oh, dude, that is so fucking cool. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Is there a reason we're seeing, like, Batman's crazily, like, vivid dreams? Well, I think this is meant to be the original plan for this little arc that we were meant to be going on with Justice Lake, right? Oh, so the idea here is we're having a future flash, or is this a dream? I'm pretty sure this is a dream. I think it's a dream, surely. No, no, no. I think, like, this is... I'm pretty sure there's like a reason why this is happening. It's a dream, but I'm pretty sure it's meant to be something that is, like, a plausible future, almost. To spook him into doing stuff. Well, I think we find out once the scene ends, right? Yeah, we do. So this is like... He's got, like, a team of people who are sympathized. Are they like his bat army? Yeah. I guess so. Yeah, it looks like it. There is allies. I would join his bat army. I like how it's just the imagery of Batman wearing a big trench coat. Fucking hilarious. We're rock. Yeah, we got it. I just want to highlight, like, they just... They decided to bring these green light bulbs here as a means of tricking Batman. Why would they need to go that far? Just pull the gun anyway. I don't know. Oh, no. Look, it's Superman soldiers. Where they work for Superman. Wow, they got Superman logos on their arms. Oh, my God. Are you on Team B or Team S? All right. I think this is meant to be like injustice sort of thing as well. Like it's meant to be... Oh, good job, guys. He was like the main one you had to get. Chew him in the mouth. Looks like it could be a cool story. Why did I get so close? He had a gun. Oh, yeah. That guy tried to stab him. They're all close to the distance. Everyone's moving in closer. You're not shooting. Look, I'll say this is... This is like... It's got a cool factor, but everybody closes the distance. You know how you fix this? You have Batman's allies... Cut it from the movie. No, you have Batman's allies still fighting and distracting the other guys. That's coward amens. Yeah. Oh, my God. Who are the intact people? Are those Nor'e's coutures from Resident Evil 4? Again, we'll just... It's a future for... Who knows who they are? Well, what do you mean? Like... Who knows? We still know what they are. Who knows? I was spooky. Oh, God. The book will be responsible for this. Oh, my God. It's so long. Why did they still have like this? Well, I was gonna say again, not a lot has happened and we are one... God, we still got two hours. Yeah, like it's... Wow. This is a chonker of a movie. Dude, this night of cut is gonna be... Oh, God. This is the thing that tries to crazy. Whenever people have Batman captured and they don't take his mask off. That applies to so much stuff, not even just Batman, like Mando. Oh. Is that easy to take off? Where's his war paint? Under his eyes. It doesn't look good. It's part of the math. It's a visual effect. She was my world and you took her from me. Wait, so Batman killed Lois? Yes, that's the one. Why? No, he killed Lois. Lois. Wait, what? Oh, here we go. Time travel. Yeah, not Lois. It's Lois. You fucking idiot. Wait, did you say fear him? Fear him, yeah. Okay, so what I got on that was fear Superman. You were right about him. The lowest lane is the key. Now, I want to hear Rags' reaction to that. Rags, do you have the faintest idea what's fucking happening right now? Um, not really, no. So, he had a dream in a dream that was being caused by someone traveling through time instead of a message question. It's very uncli- Yeah, it's really not necessary. I have mentioned how much I hate time travel. None of it was necessary. If you have to travel through time to deliver a very important message to someone, you think you'd like practice it beforehand? Well. And then you'd have it spoken very clearly indirectly instead of- As he said, he miscalculated the timing clearly. No, that's not- No, no, no, no, no, no. Because what he said is very unclear. She's the key! Yeah, yeah. Lowest lane is the key. What do you mean by that? Do we need to kill it? Do we need to save her? Is she gonna do something? Like- Well, what if- What if like the time that he thought that he was going to, that would have all made sense? I don't know. I don't see how it couldn't benefit from being more specific in any time. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, yeah, I- Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. He just said like, Hey, you're right about him. And he's like, yeah, I know. Like- Yeah, say for example, he bet he's good or bad. You could have said, he is good or bad. No, you were right about him. We've got some important dialogue here. All right. We've got- We've got trailer dialogue. But you've never been too hot at lying to me. The white Portuguese isn't carrying a dirty bomb. What is it carrying? It's a weapon. It's a rock. They're gonna ram it into God. A capable weakening Kryptonian cells. The first sample big enough to mean something turned up in the Indian Ocean three months ago. It is now aboard the white Portuguese being delivered to Lex Luthor, who I am going to steal it from. To keep you out of Luthor's hand. To destroy. Joe. Now, you're gonna go to war. That son of a bitch brought the war to us two years ago. Jesus Elvira counter-dealing. He has the power to wipe out the entire human race. And if we believe there's even a 1% chance that he is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute sir. I don't know. Not today. 20 years in Gotham, Malfur. We've seen what promises are worth. How many good guys are left? How many stayed that way? Okay, Bruce. So should we kill you? You could be a threat. Like this logic is pretty fucking flimsy. I'm gonna be honest. And to me, it's just like we need to get him to want to fight Superman. So how do we do it? Well, Superman could be evil, right? Yeah, you have to show me Superman like being evil. All you need to say is, I should have that weapon just in case. Just in case. That's all you need to say, but of course he wants to immediately wait for him on Superman. So stupid. Because it turns, instead of having two good guys with two perspectives, it's just Batman's just the bad guy. What else could you really say? And he's also stupid enough to believe that Superman really killed that village full of people. Yeah, that's annoying. They took him out of Gotham Central. They're moving to Metropolis. Inside they know. They know the mark all over guards. Don't care. That's the judge. Oh, so your, your husband was a fucking horrible person. What was your husband mixed up in? He is like a human trafficker. You know what stops him? A fist. Bullets. A fist. Good thing you're talking to me. I'm Superman. I could punch him to death for sure. Wait, so Superman is gonna hunt Batman down to stop him from letting child molesters and child abductors die? Well... Like that's the hill he's gonna die on. Hold on, like, because his, I guess his logic is that, um, he believes that like, Batman maybe causes more problems and good or like, that his methodology is really poor. But he can't. Yeah. No, I know, he can't. There's so many pieces to this. Yeah. Like, if you take this broadly and quickly. I just mean like, that's the hill he's gonna die on is a strange choice to make. What they want to sell to us is that Batman's gone a little bit loony and he's a bit more punishery than he is Batman, right? Yeah. And then Superman is like, that's inappropriate. I'm going to stop you. That seems to be, and Batman simultaneously thinks the alien is dangerous, I have to kill him. Like, that's our sort of... It's a little weak for both of us. There's lots of pieces to... Hey, can I see Batman standing up there? The sniper rifle? No, that's just Terry. And Terry's like, Hey! Oh, here we go. Oh, yeah. You know what? I'm excited. I'm excited. The bat sniper rifle? Well... There you go. You got yourself a trekker. I remember a key detail in this particular action to see that I'm so looking forward to see it again. Yeah. Look at this. I don't know which one you're talking about because there's multiple that I remember. Man, an hour and 15. There's my choir. This whole sequence exists purely to show us the new Batmobile. You know what? I'm okay with that. Hey, will help. It could be hurt by that. Well, we already know he's super chill with fucking people like this. Oh, well, okay. Oh, Jesus. So, first thing is like, you're lucky the grapples hang it onto that thing. Like it's... You're also risking yourself big time. If that gets caught on anything, it fucks your car up completely. But I'm sure it'll be worth it for whatever payoff he's going to do with it. Why do they stop? Dark stop. How did you possibly know? How could you? Wow. Okay. That's... Wow. How could you possibly know? Okay, whatever. It's Batman, you know? You just... Now, see, when I first watched this film, I'm like, man, okay. Wow. All right. And then this happens. Here it comes. Here it comes. It's David and the boy. Get me, gun. Here comes Batman's response. Shred that motherfucker back back. You're dead. Oh, okay. Yeah, you're dead. You're dead. They died. These are the weapons of cowards. Our weapons are precise and quiet. It's so unapologetically like, nah, Batman totally fucking do it as everyone likes. It's hilarious because... The Batman don't fuck around. Because his Batman killed Arkham. Because his Batman feels like totally bulletproof, so he's not really at any risk there. No, he just kills the guys. I love that line, right? You ain't going to Arkham. Visually, this looks like the first Transformers movie, except people are dying a lot. Oh, no. A Gotham tank filled with explosive juice. Gotham exploding tank. Oh, no, a non-explosive juice. So the driver wasn't actually paying attention to the road? Wow, so he just... Wow, that was... Wow. I love that. I love that. Wow, yeah, that guy is completely fucked. Yeah. Wow, nice driving. Oh, man, that was... Fuck you, boat. That was Jinbo's boat. He just bought one to restaurant it. What, dude? He comes back tomorrow. It's just completely fucked. Oh, no. Is the machine going to be even necessary? In the way of the bullets. Imagine waking up in the morning seeing that was your boat. You'd be like, wow. Oh, hey, Flayers. I feel like we watched something recently that we were like, why don't they have Flayers? Batman has Flayers. Batman's got, you know... You know, he's got gadgets. Oh, hey, Superman. What the fuck are you doing here? This exact spot, too? Like, why? Oh, okay, so remember when the fisherman tackled him? That fisherman has more power in him than the Batmobile. Yeah, we need Kryptonite for that guy. What's a really strong fisherman? How fucking epic is it? Also, Superman just let that truck go. Like, there's no way Batman was chasing them. They had like a guy with a bazooka in the back. Yeah, he's a fucking moron. We'll talk about that in a sec. This is probably worth a dialogue, though. Consider this mercy. Here we go. Tell me. He was too much like, what? What? Don't you think it would be a good idea for a troll? Yeah, he's a mascot. Okay, I just want to... What I can think about is Red Letter Media when Rich Evans repeats this scene to himself and he goes... You will! What? He's a company's monster. What stupid design for an entrance, by the way. Because this car was like, more fucked. He was just totally missed, just drowned. You couldn't have eased people into this new Batman, could you? Yeah, I just had to blow it up. Cards full of people, man. Knocked it alive when I first saw that. I was very upset. So Superman, right? Superman is on the prowl for Batman. He hears explosions, I guess, looks into it and he's like, oh my god, the Batmobile. That must be Batman. I don't care about whatever the situation is, I'm going to stop Batman. I'm not going to find out who he is because why would I want to know that? Also... Why he's chasing this truck? That's got to go to the zoo right there. Look, the tracker. How lucky is that? No one sees the tracker. No one saw it and didn't manage to stay attached when he... Wow. Okay, yeah. I guess when the card fell on it, it was a very sticky Bat tracker. I mean, you got real lucky. Wait, he needed to... Well, I guess that he... His first plan was to get it when it wasn't... Yeah, no, so what's interesting about this is in the theatrical version, I don't think they show any of this. And so he ended... I don't remember saying this. Yeah, like he... He's obviously, this is going to be how he's able to steal the Kryptonite. That's not just Boiler, don't worry. He's going to get it. It happens off-screen in the theatrical version and it's really fucking confusing. Is this him? Okay, so I thought that Lex Luthor was already on his radar, though, so why does he need to fire a tracker onto the truck if he knows that's going to take Lex's score? Well, it could be stored in a secret place. I suppose, yeah. So then why doesn't Lex Luthor do that if he's got a secret plan? Well, I'll ask you this. It'll be really lucky that it doesn't get moved to another area after it's delivered on that truck, you know? True. Because if it were, Batman would be fucked. Because they wouldn't be using that truck again. How do we determine what's good? Good is a conversation, not a unilateral decision. So I urge Superman to come to this hill of people. Seriously, Elastigill, I can't get her out of my head. How far will he take his power? She's like a super-unique voice, honestly. It's weird. They haven't shown him being, like, bad. Just very negligent. Yeah, well, like, negligent in stopping things. I don't even know that it's clear that that's the issue. You know, like, they don't make it clear that that is the issue. Yeah, because of Metropolis, because of something, it's very general. The fact that Batman said, like, he brought the war to us. Like, wait, Batman, what do you think happened in the first movie? Because I'm curious what you think happened. Because I'm willing to believe he could believe a lot of things. I'm just really curious what he thinks the events are. That Clark invited them here. Let's fight. Boom. Because he killed them all. Very much in favor of Earth. You don't know this world, I think. What? It's human. It's humanity. Why not to... You don't know them shit. Whatever, it's fine. We're not even halfway. Oh, my goodness. I just want more action scenes. They're way funnier. I mean, so far, I guess this is the best so far. Honestly, easily so far. Yeah, I think so far. Yeah, this is definitely more coherent. This feels much more like a movie. The others feel like a fucking crazy dessert. Though this is maybe the longest not in time. Well, it's competition in Wonder Woman, right? We have a lot of time left. We'll see how much it undoes. It is quite slow, I would say. So she sees Russian guy outside her apartment and then she decides to stay on the bus and go somewhere else. Why would Russian guy be after her? I might just be forgetting. All right, I think this is extra footage like extended cut stuff. It is. But why is Russian guy after her? I think it's because she's... I think it's not far out. She was shitting on Superman, so it doesn't much Russian guy want that. Right there, she's staying. I didn't tell you the truth. She's messing up. Oh, okay, cool. Somebody wanted Superman to look guilty. But wait, how do they know that she was going to fess up? This is... I can't believe you were actually weren't kidding about this. Like, if any of them had just searched the fucking scene of the crime, all this shit would be... Because like, they're treating this as hyper-secret right now. Well, yeah, it's not weird. It's bizarre. No, they've got like a super magnet that like tracks all the bullets and then, you know, takes all the bullets out, but they've missed the one bullet, apparently. I don't know. What? I'm being sarcastic. Yeah, I don't think he's being sarcastic. I just don't... Who does the movie? I can't make sure. I kind of want them to cut back to that flashback. This giant circular thing comes down and absorbs all the bullets. It's like, what? Except for the one. Yeah, I can't think of a book. Wake up, Sheephole. Sheephole. And this... This is what war looks like. I have nothing. Oh. There are plenty of people. We're sure. I just wanted to say it again. It's like, I have... I can't even piss standing up. Trust your report. I was Russian guy after African lady. We just went over it like it might be because she's telling the truth now and so is Lois. So that's why he's here, I guess. She didn't tell the truth before he was after her. I don't know why it is... How it is that he knows that we have to kill her. Yeah, I guess... Why didn't they go after them prior? Why now? Like, why not wait until after she gives her testimony that's like complete BS and then they kill her right afterwards? Yeah, I would have thought that... Yeah, I don't... It's like they knew she was doing it. They intimidate them right now, yeah. Is she not a valued member of... You know, I shouldn't say anything. I am your ghost? Dude, he saved your life. What the hell? Yeah, why would... This... Yeah, he saved your life. Wait, that's it? Why haven't I seen this? I'll get to the bottom... How could he not have seen... Anybody who did see it would be like, Oh my God, Mr. Wayne. This is kind of crazy. They're sending him back with horrible messages. Oh, I accidentally paused and played for a second. If you can all do that as well, we'll be back on scene. Wait, for how long? Literally just one second, at any point. Oh, it's too late now. Now I've waited too long. No, no, everybody just has to do it for one second. Oh, no, I've already paused it. Okay, that's fine, we'll reset. Second, the time bar is so chunky. It really is. It's a chunker of a time bar, yeah. Oh, here we go. Yeah, that's a diner looking at the TV. Yeah, okay, all right. Wait, 127, 200, right? Yes. Yes, one second, one second, one second. Nope. Nope. Hold on. Not yet, not yet. Not yet, not yet, not yet. All right, I'm at 127 now. Oh my God, we were synced waiting for it to come. Gives him 127 seconds. Is anyone... It's been synced so well, even when we're out of sync, we're still in sync. Oh my God. Is anyone not ready? I'm good. Excellent. Three, two, one, go. The last thing we need is delays on this fucking movie. We're not halfway through. We are not halfway through. No, we're not. We haven't made it yet. Man, I wouldn't have survived this last night. Jesus. Kind of a blessing in disguise. It was funny, because I've seen people say, like, oh, I can watch Snyderker. I've seen, you know, I survived Lord of the Rings. It's like, but Lord of the Rings is good. You can't, like... Do you know the oldest lie in America, Senator? That power can be innocent. Power can be innocent. Good luck. Apparently it's a lie that power can be innocent. I don't know. That's not one of those lines that makes me think, like, oh, that's a cool line. It's more of a, huh? Oh, no. Oh, Russian guy is right behind the African lady now. Man, I won't pull a house of cards in front of a tree. Well, yeah, I'm guessing. So what would have you... What would you have done if she wasn't this close to the edge? Stab him, maybe? I don't know. Here it comes. Well, surely he'll get caught. Well, yeah, of all the... Everyone saw you do that. Yeah, now everyone is gonna find you, and they're gonna see where you can't run. When I just... Like, literally, if you were in a crowded train station and you saw that, everyone would go, stop that guy. Dude, I would get the inclination to tackle that fucker. That guy has no aliens. Like, written in his forehead. No aliens. No aliens. I doubt that you would stop at tackling. You would stomp his face. I would be very upset that someone just threw someone onto the tracks. So I would be upset for her, because she'd be dead. Like a citizen's arrest sort of thing. Well, especially if it's like, if it's a woman, people get very protective about that. Especially if it's a Russian guy. Fuck Russians. Yeah. They left poor reviews of TLJ. Is he overdressed or underdressed? I don't know. I think he's just dressed. This is what I wear. Isn't that another element of like, whatever it doesn't like is that his suit is kind of muted? The suit is fine. I don't, I don't mind the suit. It's his character. That's fine. Actually, I think your writer does suit his dour apathetic fucking existence, doesn't it? What's that there on the left? Yeah. What's that jar there? Little moonshine. To say that shadowing dimensions will not be tolerated by this committee. Yeah, but what if I lie though? Okay. So why didn't you spot this earlier? Only my working- Does she smell like it? Is that the- Together, can we- Is that? It's yes, Rags. It is that. It is. It's what they said earlier. Take a bucket of piss and call it Granny's Peach Tea. So how long has Lex Luthor been pissing in that jar? I don't, I just- This is such an odd moment that she would have sat down. There was a jar of piss on her desk and she was like, that's strange. And she didn't smell it till now. No one smelled this till now. Also, I would not touch that lid. This is, what? Yes, I know, right? Superman have super smelling. He's like, why is there pee on your desk, ma'am? Oh, shit. Take a bucket of piss. I can't even piss. Only my- Can we- Can we- So. Okay. Now what I do remember is that his thing, it's made of lead. That's why Superman couldn't have seen it, okay? But does that make sense for the scanners? Well, if the scanners are x-rays, then Superman's got x-ray vision. Well, I wouldn't rely on that. I don't know if that's how that works. I, like I said, I'm asking because I don't know how that works. Now, I remember being very confused by this because they immediately know Superman didn't do it. So I'm not sure what the objective was here. Also, Lex killed his like first hand person, the lady. Why did he kill her? Yeah, exactly. Mercy Graves. What was the point of that? Jimmy Olsen and Mercy Graves within their first movie. You do have everything in place. Of course, Lex. You don't think I'd let you go out there half-cocked. What would you do without me? Let's hope it never comes to that. You let your family die. How do you even think that's true? All right. Wait, sorry. Wait, now I remember. I remember now. Wait, go. I'll ex-Lucas. Wait, do you know why he blew that place up? Now we're halfway through. I know why I know what the lead is in the checks, but maybe I'll wait until- Wait, all the press was behind the barrier. She said, I'm the press. Can you let me in? Okay. What I will say is we might have to go- We don't have to spoil a little, just a little bit, because we won't have time to talk about it when this film starts to ramp up, because lots of crazy shit happens. If I remember correctly, Lex is the one that's sending the creepy messages, right? And he's trying to rile up Batman. That still doesn't really explain- So was that guy bouncing the checks back or not? And if yes, how is it- Surely he- That means that Lex Luthor knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman. Yeah. Yeah, and how would he know that? I mean, if he's been going for 20 plus years, I don't know, like this- If nobody else knows. Wait, how does he know that? I don't remember if there was anything to give that away, but the more interesting part for me is just all the mechanics with those fucking checks. If the guy bounced them back, for some reason that didn't get to Wayne, like they just didn't tell him. He's like, how did I know about this? It's like, oh, I guess we'll try and find out. I guess we just- I don't know. Do anything. And if the guy knew- By any means, gonna fuck off. If the guy knew he was supposed to be getting checks from Wayne, then it would have taken a phone call. So it's all very weird. But then also, Lex got hold of those checks and started writing weird messages on them to annoy Batman. I guess. Wait, do you understand like all those- Did those checks have messages for Batman or Bruce Wayne? Well, it's meant for tech, you know, because for some reason, Lex knows he's who he is, and he wrote those messages to annoy him. Weird. I feel like he'd do more- I still don't know why he blew up the- I don't know why he blew up the Capitol building, though. That's still- No, I was gonna ask if you knew. Yeah, this will launch like the biggest investigation in the history of investigations. Like I told you before, fundamentally, they all know Superman didn't do it. How could he have blown it up? Maybe this film has the worst out of the set for plot, because it's not simple at all, like the others are. Is the idea that he's actually framing Scoot McNary's character, the one on the wheelchair? Maybe. But why? To what end? I guess the idea is that because Scoot McNary was crippled by Superman and then became a terrorist. Okay, sorry. Again, we're gonna have to move on to the next thing now. So I knew this was gonna happen, right? So the idea here is that Batman has come and gone. He's taken the Kryptonite. Now, when his men arrived, they would have told him, yo, Superman was trying to fucking destroy us. So, uh, sorry, Batman. So like, the Kryptonite is incredibly special, too. So the only way I can explain this, because there's no fucking way that he would have allowed this- How did that work? There's no way he would have allowed this to happen, unless this was- Oh, no, the basketball's depleted. My question is, was this on purpose? Did he want Batman to steal this? Maybe. Because if you look at his face, it doesn't look like it was a purpose. Well, I mean, I think he'd be okay with the idea that Batman has Kryptonite if he's trying to get them to kill each other. I was gonna say, like, again, not trying to- Why would you leave your calling card that's a fucking retard? But why was, like, Lex is happy about this, right? Yeah, like, he wants- I can't tell, there's no emotions on his fucking face. My assumption is, Lex wants Batman to have the weaponry to kill Superman so he can drive them to fight each other. That seems to be his goal. I didn't see it. In that case, why even have it delivered to Lex Corp? To fake that he wanted to keep it for himself when he doesn't actually, I don't know. All this time, I've been living my life the way my father saw it. Shitty? Nothing longs for a go, thinking I'm here to do good. Superman was never real. What? Did you just say that I've been living my life thinking I'm here to do good thanks to my dad? It's like the one that told you to let a bunch of children drown? I don't know. Yeah. And let him die on a tornado? No, you do well. If a therapist heard that, they'd be like, that man is not your father. Okay, like- Yeah, that man is kind of weird. It's like someone down the street. Is that Lois Leight's apartment? Oh, he's still a man. Hey! Hey! I don't think this is her apartment, this is her hotel room. They're still in her hotel room. Yeah, this is- You see the Washington Monument? Unless he knows a Washington reactor into her, because he knows where she is all the time. Fine, that's all to my joke. Is that Lois Leight up there? If you look closely at the Washington Monument, you can see Spider-Man. Oh, my goodness gracious. It's a little red blinking light. You pay close attention, you can see a good movie in the background. Nope. So, okay. He managed to clip off his fucking- Zod's fingerprints. Jesus Christ. Shouldn't that thing just beedly stun him? Is he allowed to do this? Wait, wait, wait. I thought that Man of Steel showed that you don't necessarily need the right fingerprints to activate the things, right? I don't know. Look, the important part is that he's activating shi- Like, I guess it's gotta happen first. Took this? Where is he right now? What ship is this? This is- This is the- Zod ship. Zod ship. I think it's called the Phantom Zero or something. Why are they letting him come in here? Well, this was part of the deal, yeah. He was- Oh, like unsupervised? Yeah, I don't know why it's unsupervised. Yeah. It was different than the one that was trying to destroy the ship operating. Would you like to assume command? Yes, I would. Very well. That's how that works. You activate it, it's like, oh, hey, you can control everything. The Titanium archive contains knowledge from a hundred thousand different worlds. Why are you telling me this? If you think that I- Why are you- Teach me. Teach him about everything. What the fuck? That scene, man. What are you- So that's just accounted for hitting a tire with a sledgehammer? It's CrossFit, okay? Yeah, I don't know what the fuck that was. It's Bat CrossFit. Him getting in there with those stupid fingertip things and then can take full control, that's going to enact all of the third act. So it's just- That's a big issue. Yeah, it's major that he could do that. But it gets worse, so whatever. I didn't think Zod ship- I thought Zod ship was at like the Arctic or something. No, no, it's the ship that crashed, man. It crashed into a metropolis. Oh, right, right, right. The one in the Antarctic or whatever was supposed to be Supergirl's one. Wait, was that Supergirl's ship? Apparently. It's confirmed in like the comic that Goya has got a hand in that apparently Supergirl was in that ship and she died. Oh, what? Supergirl's dead in the D.C. Why would she keep killing all Supergirl's like- I don't know. By the way, this is based on knowledge from the editor from Man of Steel, E-Fat Movies. He's got a little edit in there that shows that that's apparently the truth that she's just dead. Hello, editor man here. Just a slight clarification on my note from last time. The Man of Steel prequel comic does not explicitly show her death, but instead shows the ship crash landing after a struggle with the villain of the story before then showing a figure emerging from the ship. Now, this figure could be Supergirl or it could be Watts' face who gives a fuck. If it is Supergirl, it's still reasonable to assume she's dead as that was 18,000 years ago and there have been no stories of a woman with Superman's abilities popping up throughout history as far as we know. So yeah, probably dead and if not, that just raises further questions. Goya, you fucking hack. Why? I mean, you could do something with that. Why would you just kill her off? I don't know. I guess they knew that they wouldn't get many movies. Oh. This bad OS. They have logos. Lex gave them the Justice League logos. So, Lex gave her a double W. So, he knows that her name is Wonder Woman. What do you name her that? Was he like, I'll call her Wonder Woman? Well, I think that that actually shows up on her costume, right? The double U is kind of there on the costume now. Was that ever a thing like in her movie? Did they ever name her Wonder Woman in the movie? No, they didn't. No. So, Lex named her Wonder Woman. Lex named her Wonder Woman, canon. It's like J. Jonah Jameson naming people in this Spider-Man universe. I love it. They're going to call you Han Solo. Get excited rags. Oh, it was this. Remember those great characters? Oh, yeah, they're great. They're playing a theme. We're crossing over. The worlds are colliding. You know, I'm going to say that theme is cool, but it doesn't fit Wonder Woman at all. Yeah, it's a cool theme. Yeah, she's just a ditsy idiot. So, it's hard to, you know. But remember, this was before we knew that. This was back when she was mysterious. To be honest, this might be a Civil War Black Panther thing. Like, she's been fine so far. Yeah. How's Zod, your naked, flubby body? How did he get Zod again? He just asked for it. Because he's allowed to just be in here alone. He's allowed to be in here alone and has access fully to the ship and to Zod's body. It's fucking amazing. And why? Because he figured out that Kryptonite hurts Kryptonian bodies. OK, this is good. You remember? You remember? Don't cut your hand out. Why do you do that on the middle of your hand? Like the most annoying pod to be cut at. I just want ranks to understand for sure. So he's in a pool of goo with Zod's deceased body and he poured his own blood on his face. And now? Wait, well, I don't even want to let the film say anything. Rags, what do you think would happen if you did that? Advising. Action forbidden. It has been decreed by the Council of Krypton that none will ever again give life to a deformity. So hateful to sight and memory. The desecration without name. And where is the Council of Krypton? Destroy, sir. Then proceed. Very well. What? OK. So are you have tentacles? Oh, I just like. OK, this is tanking a little bit now. Like, because there's so much about that that makes no sense. How did it enables the finale? Before you even question how the mechanics function, how did he know? How did he know about any of it? Well, because I think that he he had the. Uh-oh. Well, does the computer tell him? Yeah, the computer. He's like, tell me everything. I think at one point she was like, well, if you mix your blood with the body of a creature and put them in this goo, all right. Bobby, that makes total sense, though, right? FYI, don't know. It's bad. Leonardo DiCaprio. Surgeon strength Oscar. They found, quote, a jackpot of bomb-making materials inside Keith's apartment. So they have framing him as a co-conspirator. Yes. Uh-huh. But why? I don't know. So there's your sense of scale by the way rags. That's metropolis. And across that bay is Gotham. They are very close. Oh, wow. They're like right next. Oh, they're like getting proposed. Yeah, Bruce Wayne really could have suited up as Batman and gotten into his jet and flown all the way over there. Well, oh my God. That's like that's like if there was a vigilante in St. Paul and people in Minneapolis. To know about it. So what I find interesting, like a point of praise for the film, of course, is like rags. You've seen scenes in Gotham and in metropolis. Aren't they very distinct in terms of like how they're designed? It's pretty cool that you can tell in an instant like where you're at sort of thing. No. What? What was that? Joel Schumacher is much better. I find a lot of people. You lie. I just, I, if you wouldn't have told me that these were two different cities right next to each other, I would have just been like, oh, is one of like the east coast ones on the west coast or something? What people are going to say is like, no, but there was like an ice chemicals thing in the background. It's like, yeah, that's okay. Could have done better than that. Again, Joel fucking Schumacher. By the way, how did the guy in the wheelchair hang up all those Superman red things onto the ceiling? It's impressive. He used a little stretchy arm. He was Mr. Fantastic. Why don't you think you'd be pissed if you were Mr. Fantastic and you lost your legs? Man. It's like a stretch of a dagger still. Not only of stretchy limbs. The inside of the chair was lined with lead. You couldn't stop it. You couldn't see it. Wait, so is the criticism of Superman that he didn't see the bomb coming? I think that's why they think he was a co-conspirator because he didn't stop it. That, what the fuck would the benefit be for him? Why would you assume that? I know. Why would he do that? It makes him look really crappy as a hero. Hi. Yeah. Dad. Kevin Costner. Hi, I flew all the way up here from the tornado. It's Robin Hood. I'm actually alive. No one's tornado threw me all the way out here. Now we just need to say, are you a force ghost? He goes, no, a memory. Something in it. We made a Kansas live on a pancake so we come to the mountains all downhill from here down to the flood plain where I'm at the bottom of the world. That reaction from Clark is basically the audience's reaction of the showbiz movie. We were like, are we done yet? I need to pee. I remember one season when water came bad. It couldn't have been 12. Dad had out the shovels and we went at it all night. We worked till I think I fainted but we managed to stop the water. We saved the farm. Your grandma baked me a cake. Said I was a hero. Did you have this accent before? I don't remember him talking like this. I don't remember this heavy accent either. You just have to decide what kind of man you want to grow up to be, Clark. Your grandma baked me a cake. She had her upstream. So that's not you. Later that day we found out we blocked the water all right. We sent it upstream. The whole Lang Farm washed away. While I ate my hero cake, their horses were drowning. I used to hear them well in my sleep. Very low and raspy now. When I met your mother, she gave me faith that there's a goodness world. What? Wait, the story was that he accidentally got a bunch of horses drowned, right? So why would that make him believe there's nothing but bad in the world? That's weird. Weird through land. Because he's a fucking idiot. He just loves horses that much. Wait, he wasn't there? What? Ooh, hey ghosts. More slo-mo. It's a long movie, man. Yeah. And Justice League is going to be an extra... We knew we're watching Justice League. We wouldn't even be halfway through. Dude, we would be like five minutes away from the end if it was Justice League. That's right. Older now than my father ever was. You're going to watch it on a weekend though, right? This may be... Please. I'm older now than my father ever was. This may be the only thing I do that matters. 20 years of fighting criminals. Amongst nothing. Criminals like we yourself. Pull one up, another grows in its place. Yeah, but okay. Does Batman think that like if I can't stop all criminals, it like doesn't matter? Yeah, like I was about to say like what? Are you suggesting we stop doing that because they keep coming back? At one cure, one disease, another one just happens too. So fucking... You know, my father sat me down right here. Told me what Wayne Manor was built on. First generation. Made their fortune trading with the French. Pelts, skins. They were hunters. Time to hunt me an alien. Well, back then a lot of people were hunters. Just saying. Yeah, I mean it didn't really have a choice. Oh, they didn't work in like marketing or... Alfred's like, wait are you saying that you're a hunter too? Is that, was that an un-stad? So falls the house of Wayne. I mean it's... We gotta wait for more evidence. Seems like there's a story there, right? How was Robin killed? What happened to Wayne Manor? You know? Batfleck, make a prequel. My son's the fucking most strongest person in the world. I have this shitty job. Why would you do it this way? Or are you trying to intimidate her? Yeah, the way to do it would have been when she's leaving for work and you could have a guy grab it, not like the car's coming. It worked, right? So is this the first time we've seen his giant suit? Oh shit. We're doing it. All right, here we go. So. Wow. I've never seen this before. Hey, remember the title of the movie? Well, so I'm going to say... Fuck it. I wanted to mention it earlier, but I didn't. I really like Batman's voice modifier. Make some sound fucking cool as fuck. It's so much better than the Nolan Batman voice. I like this suit a lot. This suit is really cool. This is badass as fuck. Yeah, it's a shame that the movie sucks. Yeah, so what my point's going to be is like, I don't even mind the way everything looks for this particular moment. It's just that everything it's built on and what it is a terrible. How does the voice modifier work if he doesn't have a mask over his mouth? It attaches to sound waves as they leave his mouth. Yeah, they show it earlier. It'll attach to your throat and then it's... Yeah. Yeah, there's like a microphone in there. And it adds like, it makes it deeper and it adds like a filter of robotic. It just sounds so much better than anything Nolan did. And all I remember from the Nolan ones is that he insisted that Christian Bale do the stupid voice. I don't know why the voice... Nobody likes the voice. I like how Ben Affleck looks as Batman, like even in the way of her bat suit. I think it looks great. Dude, I like that he's got... You know, like dad bod but with super muscle? I don't know how to say it. He's really physically imposing. Yeah. Also, did this guy really pose as a floor cleaner just to kidnap him? He knew that. He knew that was going to come down that escalator. He was walking down here and he was... Do you think he likes clean floors? He was like, ah, fuck it. It's a secret passion. So they were waiting for her to walk here and he was buffing the floor and... Yeah, I guess so. Obviously they'd know about the Superman and Lois' connection from the beginning again. Also, wouldn't that have been caught on camera? Fuck it. Nah. In fairness, I guess they can't really do much with it other than be like, these guys took her... These guys... Are these guys even on... This Russian dude's been on loads of cameras at this point. Yeah, somehow he got out of the train station after pushing an African woman in front of a train in front of everyone. I want a bloodbomb boss, give me. He reminds me of that enemy a guy in Resident Evil 5 rags. The one that is really annoying and on the cruise ship becomes a huge monster. Wait, I'm sorry. Let me turn this down. What was that? This lax reminds me of the bad guy in Resident Evil 5 who's on the cruise ship. Well, the ship in Resident Evil. Oh, yeah, yeah. Really annoying. You're making me look bad. I'm a victim of psychomstance. Me too. Me too. Is he gonna push her off to lure Superman here? Why would you say that? Why would you say that? Because it's like what he's gonna do. Do you know this because you've seen clips? No, I just like, of course this is what's gonna happen. It's because I've seen movies. Well, I question, rags, what a silly thing to think would happen considering we don't even know where Superman is. How would you, how would you know this would work? Because this film doesn't care. I think it's ridiculous to suggest that the movie would do something so stupid. Yeah, because like rags, I think you're a silly person to assume something so ridiculous because like it wouldn't make sense. How would Superman arrive? We don't even know where he is. I can imagine he's on the toilet right now. Oh. Hi there. How though? No. So I heard this. I heard a defense of this. Superman's gonna fuck up like Sleuther now. By the way, apparently Superman knew that Lois was in danger at this point, but not his mom. So I've heard the defense of this is that Superman has a constant like ear out for raised heartbeats from Lois. Oh, my mother's mom. Fuck off. So first of all, yeah, not his mom, but secondly. I'm here to study Lois. He's like, no, I was just masturbating. It's okay. I mean, it's so bullshit. And now Lois can just say, hey, Lex Luthe pushed me off a building. Police officers. The problem of absolute virtue. I'll take you in without breaking you. Which is more than you deserve. The problem of you on top of everything else. Something on Kati about the super bad level of life. I'll take you in without breaking you. Because that's what God is. Horace, Apollo, Jehovah, Cal-L, Clark, Joseph, Kent. See, what we call God depends upon our tribe, Clark, Joe. God is tribal. God takes sides. The fuck is this character? I don't know. I don't know what to do with me from Daddy's face. It's a really half-assed version of Jim Carrey's riddler. That's what it is. God is all powerful. He cannot be all good. And if he is all good, then he cannot be all powerful. All right, he's powerful enough. And neither can you be. I don't get it. They need to see the fraud you are with their eyes. You pushed a woman off a building. On your head. Yeah, like, I don't know if people were saying that Superman is all powerful. It's just more like, I'm desperate. What is his motivation? Two years growing. But it did nothing to push him over, actually. Little red notes. I think the idea is that he was abused by his dad. So he's mad that Superman... So you just had the line there, though, right? Where he said, yeah, I wrote lettuce to Bruce Wayne. So he knows he has to. I can do the greatest gladiator match in the history of the world. God versus man. Pal Cove versus Andre the Giant. Yes, Superman's going to laser eye Batman. It'll be done. You think I'll fight him for you? Yes, I do. I think you will fight, fight, fight for that special lady in your life. She's safe on the ground. How about you? Close, but I am not talking about Lois. Every boy's special lady is his mother. Oh, shit, I forgot I had a mum. Hey, man, that's a mother of a son. So, fuck. Again, if I was being as genuinely as benefit of the doubt as possible, Lex doesn't like the existence of powerful, powerful beings. Is that it? I guess. It's just like he wants to see what happens, really. That's it. I thought you... But like, he's not against Batman. He just wants to kill Superman. If you kill me, Martha dies. And if you fly away, Martha also dies. But if you kill the bat, Martha lives. Why can't you detect where Martha is? You have a super hearing. There we go. I just mean if he can do it for Lois, you know? And now God bends to my will. Why would he like... I just... Why? Why any of this? The cameras are waiting at your ship for the world to see the holes in the holy. Yes, the almighty comes clean about how dirty he is when it counts. To save Martha, bring me the head of the bat. Well, then he'll just say, yeah, they kidnapped my mom, so I had to kill Batman. So, like, Lex is hoping Batman will kill him because he has access to Kryptonite. But what if Superman literally lays at his head off? Well, then it makes Superman look bad, I guess. Would it? Batman's reputation isn't exactly fantastic right now. No, I know. The music, at least. Yeah, music is so good. But, like, I just don't get Lex. I just don't get him at all. And I don't know what it is with the DCEU, but they cannot write villains at all. Which is funny, because I remember one of people's complaints was, hey, the villains are good in DCEU movies. Oh, no. I don't know. Aries is pretty cool. He was pretty cool. Yeah, we got Zod, Lex, Luther, I guess Max, but people were saying that before Max, so. I just want to remind you that he's a shit because he's an Iron Man villain, isn't he? You've been holding up an M60, Adler, for how long? I think it's like 20 pounds. That's insane. Just old lady Stagers who did M60. And to remind you guys, by the way, the early game Marvel villains, their problem wasn't that they make no sense at all. It was just that they were lame. They're not that great. Yeah. Obadiah didn't make a lot of sense. I'll give you that. Loki did. Loki was good, right? Loki was good. He had a pretty good Rhodes Gallery, I think, but we're talking about the comics there. Not the fucking movies. I like that we're looking at the television when it was right outside the fucking window. We haven't even gotten to the Joker of the DCEU yet. God, there's so much stuff in this garbage. Lois? Oh, hey. We have to go to Gotham to convince him to help. Was he just standing there the whole time? I don't remember this scene. No one stays good in this world. God, everyone's so cynical. It's whatever. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Jesus' trailers. Well, we can talk over the first bit. I was just going to say that I wouldn't be too concerned with how the stakes are set. It's like, well, Superman, knowing who you are, I'm assuming you'll just explain to Batman what's going on. Yeah. You're the world's greatest detective. Help me find her. A new message. Boys shared too. Oh, he cracked the drive wish he couldn't. Okay. Remember that photo they posed for? They shouldn't have. Yeah, they were on a secret mission. No, don't put it on your Instagram. Ah, damn it. I like she's scrolling. She's scrolling Pinterest, if you know what I mean. Yeah, like... There we go. Jesus' trailers, guys. Oh, boy. All of them. Would you like to see Disney's The Flash? Would you like to see more? Disney's Avengers Tony's. Oh, the music's building up. Sea Rags, I knew that you were unsatisfied with Wonder Woman and the Batman and Superman. I was somewhat unsatisfied, yeah. But check out this dude. He's like A-Train. Like, this was inspired by A-Train, right? Sure. That's the other one. What do you imagine someone said that? It's Alphabet. Oh, is this Aquaman? Aquaman. Wow, that looks a lot creepier than his movie. Why does he have glowy eyes? This is my house, even though it's shitty. Well, so why is he moving so slowly? I feel like this is very different from how it's portrayed in the movie. I feel like the hair would constantly get in his way. Yeah, you're thinking tight. Raila 3. I'll save him a lot of money on the CGI budget. Shouldn't it be a Batman trailer? Well, this movie ain't happening now. Wait, have they cancelled this whole movie? Well, Ray Fisher is not. I don't think he's getting any more movies. He's caused a bit of a ruckus. Oh, it's Skynet Man. Yeah, Miles Bennett Dyson. You see, he didn't learn his lesson. Nice. You see, they've put Skynet into a cube. What is that? Cube. What an interesting object. I wonder if it will be. Before time, there was. Okay, this does not seem... Cube. Oh, jeez. I hope this is safe. It just rapidly grows in cybernetic arms and legs. I'm curious how that makes any sense at all, but whatever. Moving on. Enough trailers. It's the Allspark. The Allspark. He's standing there this whole time. Um, words. Where is he? You should see. He would be awkward, but it would better be better if you said that little lawn chair. Call the heliport and chopper. We can barely afford a bicycle. You want to chase the story? Go to the ship. Superman's probably there already. Perry, it's not her story. Then you definitely can't have it. Well, oh, I mean, wouldn't you be like, what do you mean? What are you doing? You trying to save someone's life? Why does the newspaper have a helicopter? Well, I mean, we'll, uh, to move people around to get reported to places. Channels to have a lot of, yeah. I didn't realize the New York Times had a helicopter. It probably do. Very dramatic. Whoa. Why, so can you just softly come down? Well, remember, he kind of doesn't like that man, right? That's what those extra scenes meant to tell us. I was wrong. You have to listen to me. That was interesting that you just said Lex wants us to. I might, I might inspect that. Yeah, Bruce. I'm the greatest detective after. So, hey, Batman. After Lex earlier in this film. Batman, if you have any kryptonite weapons, that would have been the time that you did them while he was, you know, frozen. Oh, explain things to him. Use your words. Why'd you do that, Batman? Use your words. Superman. Use your mouth. Literally tell him Lex Luth is manipulating you. Lex Luth is manipulating. All right, kryptonite bullets. Hey, Batman. Yeah, you already know the bullets do fuck old Superman. Why would you not? You, why did you not have these with kryptonite bullets? Why not? You have so much kryptonite. Just a little bit in each bullet. He froze him with the sound barrier things. We didn't do anything other than that. He just watched him get frozen by them. He was like, tee hee. You would think, have him get frozen by the sound, by the sonic cannons, and then activate the kryptonite bullet. Talk to him. Talk to him. No, no, no. Hold him up and then tell him. All right. So, call him. Hey, God, explain to him the situation. Lex has my mom. Lex has my mom. Look, he was a little bit annoyed at the other stuff. Now he's going to talk to him. He's like, what you did was mean. And now we can have a chat. Oh, okay. Why? What? You wanted to explain this to him a second. Damn, you're always in this undestroying buildings. There are people I think the Civil War, Fiddle Fight is bad because they don't explain the situation to each other. Some people give this a pass. When the gas tank fell down, I wanted it. You'd be dead already. Why would you say that? Of all the things you could have said. Lex has my mom. If I wanted it, you'd be dead already. It's like, so why aren't I? Wouldn't X-ray vision make that kind of move? Yeah, that would have been me. Yeah. No. You know, kryptonite in the form of gas going into your lungs and shit, he might actually just be straight up fucked. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, there shouldn't be recovery from this. Well, if there is, right? If there is, I would like us to keep a note of how long it takes. So, okay. I kind of like everything about this, except it's what it's housed in. Yeah. I isolate this one set of moments here, and I'm cool. It's just cool, imagery, cool music. Yeah. And like, I like the idea of lowering Superman's strength enough that he can actually take him on as a guy. Yeah. But if you're going to use kryptonite weaponry on him, why a gas? Well, also. Because that sounds like a really great idea. Well, no, yeah, I'm not questioning that. I'm confused that if your goal is to kill Superman, where's the kryptonite knife? Where's the kryptonite, you know? Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Because remember, he has to lead him to where the spear is in order to start killing him. Why? Why didn't he have a kryptonite knife? Well, that's what I'm saying. It's really stupid. How about like an assassin's creed kryptonite knife? You know what I mean? That man, you had a really good upper hand there, and you've lost it. You had a huge window. To clarify, it took Superman what? Like 30 seconds? Yeah. It wasn't that long to recover. Oh, he's not right there yet. Oh, yeah. Oh, right. Yeah, this is good. I like this, by the way. Nice. That's cool. Yeah. Kind of be a bit Superman. Oh, shit. I'm sorry. But though I would question like, Batman, what did you think was going to happen? I should have maybe stabbed you. Yeah, what did you think was going to happen? I just don't get it. Yeah. Again, kryptonite fart gas instead of a kryptonite knife. Why? Well, both. Because the kryptonite fart gas is a really good idea. It worked really well. I just don't get why you didn't follow through. No, but I'm staying instead of the knife. That's the... Well, surely he like, he has enough to make a knife though. He made like a spear and he has like a chunk. He totally corrects. Dude, the huge amount. I'm not against the idea of him using kryptonite fart gas, period. The problem is he uses that and only that instead of a kryptonite knife, I guess, while he's weakened. You should have a kryptonite arsenal with how much he had. Yeah. He had a massive block. I question, how exactly was he hit that made it so that happened? Yeah. Without him being seriously hurt. Because it looks cool, right? But... It's got that Sam Raimi Spider-Man look. Yeah, it's a cool battle damage. There's one weakness, porcelain. I guess that... Dude, man, roll away from the kryptonite. Like, I guess it's not like, it doesn't act immediately. You know what I mean? That's why he's able to still punch him that hard. If breathing in the gas is like breathing in poison, how does he just get over it in like, well, a minute and a half later. Does kryptonite simply make him non-super or does it kill him? It makes him weak. It said it was like decaying his cells. That's a little bit more than making him weak. No, I know that's one of the issues with... That's the issue with when you try to actually explain what kryptonite is. So like, he should be in serious trouble here. Well, I mean, Batman better hurry because it won't be too long, right? I guess like, as weak as a person, he should be dead, right? Like, that fulcher that killed him. I mean, he went, ah. So, hey, what are you doing? Oh, wait. Clock is ticking. Clock is ticking. That's right. I mean, I feel like he should already be at least back to 50%. I bet your parents taught you that you mean something. That you're here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson. Dying in the gutter for no reason at all. How did he lift up? I don't know. That went from about a meter away from Batman to about seven. I don't know what happened there. Yeah, the building might collapse if you knock all this down. Also, it's not going to do much if he's already nearly back to recovery, right? That's the crisis on Infinitism's line. Then something completely nonsensical happens and he dies. Maybe it could be argued that Superman is still weak because the kryptonite spear was in that room. Yeah, maybe. I mean, certainly, he's got him now. Also, he's going to come to this place specifically. That traveled a good distance. Yeah, his lucky Batman got thrown into this building by Superman. Imagine he went any of the other directions. Oh, here we go. Ow. What was that? What does that mean? That little look. I love that little look. It's so confused. There's some guy over there, like, I don't know. Martha. So every time that Bruce Wayne hears the name Martha, he just gets this piece of the flashback. Just in case the visuals aren't enough, Rags, his mother's name was Martha. Yeah. The Superman's mother's name is also Martha. Oh. See the pills? And just in case, just in case the shot of Martha Wayne's grave or tomb wasn't enough, we also get this. No. No. Colando. We get two reminders as to what his mother's name is. His weight. Just question. Is Batman wondering whether Superman's looked into his mind or something? Like, how do you know the name? Thank goodness you were here to explain. Oh. Wait, I'm sorry. She didn't hear him say Martha. Yeah. I don't know. She knew that that would be the thing that would have made him upset. Well, she was really far away, but she had an echo. Like, we don't need to talk about why this is all terrible, right? I think I get it. This is horrendous. Yeah, what's worth saying is that the fight wasn't good before that either. I was pretty bad. There was a couple of bits I like, but most of it was shit. And it's all based on the fact that neither of them talked to each other. I kind of came to the conclusion also that they couldn't really talk in their suits with any credibility. You know what I mean? Okay. More than four or five lines and you start to notice like, wait, these are two guys dressed up. One guy's dressed up like a bat and the other one has a big red S on his chest. And they're being super serious about how mad they are at each other. And it just, you can, you know, it's just it's a dangerous thing, you know. And then Batman gives up his entire crusade because apparently Superman had a mum. What? You think you just sprung out of the ground like an Urakai? Like imagine you have to wonder did Batman think that Superman was just a goblin person? I bet your parents thought you were but you mean something. A few moments later that he just like had no, he didn't love anybody, wasn't loved by anybody and did nothing but bad things. Like he clearly saves people. They have an M16 and a flame thrower. What the fuck? Gotta get the job done. She's a dangerous lady. It would have been so much more meaningful if you start to pull when they were friends. My mother needs me. Wait. I'm at your promise. So Batman has completely flipped. He's now 100% proven. Yeah, let's get everything. He's totally indifferent. Also there's no fucking way that Clark would agree to that. That he'd be like, yeah, I'll go and see what's going on with the ship because Lex is doing something weird. You go save my mum. He'd be like, no, you go check the ship. I'm saving my mum. It's such a bizarre moment. I don't know why they did this other than wanting Batman to have another action scene because they have him say like Martha will not die. Like so it's meaningful. He's going to save this Martha. And I'm just like, fuck off, Superman would save her. He's faster and more strong than you. Like why would it's stupid? Well, I guess their logic is white. No, Lex will kill her if it's you. But if it's Batman, he'll just wait around. It would be the reverse if anything. If they see Superman, they'll be like, oh, fuck. The plan's failed. If it's Batman, they'll be like, what the fuck? Oh, this is weird. Also, I guess I'll just keep this, handy. Dude, oh, oh, I remember this. Yo, you're in. Do it. Oh, this is going to, can't wait. At least we get the action scene that I remember being good. This is a good action scene. That was a fun one. Kind of got a retarded framing, unfortunately. Yeah. It's again, spooky things happening at the ship. Superman, go deal with it. It's like, no, no, no, no. No. Like, I guess that they just simply wouldn't know that he's here to save Martha. Well, no, but I bought him earlier. I don't really, I don't really mind that Batman showing up to save. I just mean it would be Superman. It's just, it wouldn't have happened. Well, no, no, no. I mean, like, why they don't kill Martha immediately here? Um, well, that it, they're attacking. Maybe their plan, their plan doesn't account for Batman showing up, I guess. Like, I guess that, so if Superman shows up, then yes, they kill Martha. But if Batman shows up, he may not necessarily be there to save Martha. It could be some other thing because he was taken on a convoy earlier. Like, I feel like that's what the film believes. But if I were one of these bad guys, I'd be torching us right away. Yeah, I'd be like, this is clearly contingency, you know, three or whatever, someone showed up, things getting fucked up, she has to die. That's the deal. Yeah, and Superman can do this in like half the amount of time. That's what I mean. It makes no sense that it would let Batman do this. It's the rule of cool at play here. Oh, we got the screaming thing. It's like the Dark Knight soundtrack. See, like, they're all like, oh God, what if- Doesn't he need like a belt of ammunition or something for that M-60? Because it ain't loaded. Oh, his works. A lot of the guns are out of play. Yep, he just snapped those guns in half. Wait, where did his bullets go? Yeah. I know he's bulletproof, but it would still, you know- That guy hurts. That guy, he's hurt. Ow. Nice. Oh, Jesus, why did you- Why did you shoot at him? Yeah, why didn't you just shoot? Why did he opt to show like, Batman, I got a grenade. I'm gonna fuck you up. Well, down he goes. It is a cool action scene. Yeah, this is a good action scene. Yeah. It's like the only good live action Batman fights. Wait, they only have the one magazine? Damn. I guess they only did. Oh, this one. This one. Oh, my God. He's dead. A lot of these dudes are dead. Well, yeah. The guy who got a Batarang thrown into his throat, he's dead. He just- I don't know what it is. He just comes across like he punches so hard this Batman. Yeah. Yeah, this Batman is very much- I would not want to fight him. Oh, yeah. Much of it has to do with like the- Oh, Jesus. Wow. Oh, my God. Oh, Jesus. It's the sound mixing, honestly. That, like the impact of the punches. You really feel it. He's also just a chonker of a Batman. Look at him. He's such a beefy boy. He's a beefy boy. I've already talked directly about him. He's like super a method actor. Like he's up like crazy for his roles and shit. He also like grunts like a beefy boy. Bro. Yeah. Oh, God. Oh, if only it was good. Like it's not. Oh, no. I- I rewatch this scene on YouTube on occasion. It's a- it's a good action scene. I gotta tell you, it does make me really upset that like we're never gonna have a really cool, like Infinity War kind of like- Yeah. You know, DC movie because- They fucked it up. They fucked all of it up. They have. Yeah. It's over. Yeah, that was a really nifty f- Yeah, that M60's not loaded. Even if there's no bullets in it. It's like, I don't know. Yeah, there should be like a big-ass pack on the bottom. Yeah, it has to have like bullets. Yeah. Oh, here we go. Rags. What's- what's the most, uh, what's the best place to shoot a guy with a flamethrower pointed at an old lady? In this brain. I agree. What does Batman do? Oh. What? I don't know about that one, mate. I don't know about that one. Get ready for the one jerk in this film. I'm a friend of your son's. I figured the cape- Like the only jerk in this whole movie. It feels like I wanna tussle Zach's hair. I'm like, aww. A moment of, like, not miserableness. Wait, are you guys planning to die? Are we Aquaman gonna pick it up? No. During this whole thing, she was like, I'm gonna find a weird area to toss the spear into. That will be relevant later, right? I just- it's so weird that she decided to do that. That is weird that she's just like, I'm gonna throw this in this water pit. How did it take you so long? Also, laser him. Laser him right now. Laser, boom. Out of tricks. Out of time. And one. Back edge. What? That'll be to cook. Excuse me. Gotham roast. Hello. Break the bad news. I'd rather do the breaking in person. I wanna clarify. The Lex was excited to get the call from the Russian to say they'd burnt Superman's man to a crisp. He was excited to see Batman's reaction. He would kill you. That's it. Instead, he's annoyed because Batman trolled him. So, Superman's sin is existing. That's nice. Why did Batman call him to say like, Lol, you suck. If man won't kill God, the devil will do it. If man won't kill God, the devil will do it. So, Rags, as you can see, the drama's over, right? Like Batman, Superman, they kind of chill now. So what are we doing? What's the drama? Is there gonna be a zombie Kryptonian he has to fight? It's a very beloved character from the comics that he's gonna have to battle now. Wait for it. Ancient Kryptonian deformity, blood of my blood. But why? Also, moving a hand around like that, that wound ain't sealing. Oh, it's one of the trolls from Moria. I hope you've watched your myth-thrill armor. Dude, they've got a little machine in the background. He's like, what is going on here? That is Doomsday. How did he grew him super fast? He grew with Doomsday. Also, like, lame. Why did she do Doomsday this early? Zod's body mixed with Lex Luthor's blood that makes Doomsday. Well, they said resurrecting Kryptonians has like Tisms anyway, but apparently adding Lex's blood really does crank it up. Wow, the editing kind of annoys me that Superman saved Lex there in a way. It's supposed to be cool with killing people. Oh no, here comes mass destruction. Well, it's that. And he's like, oh no, not again. It's that trope of being okay with killing people until it's, you know, the antagonist. Until it's the main bad guy who was just one for all of it anyway. Why would this random creature be? Is he like, has he got Zod's brain? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't think so. I don't know, though. Just if I remember correctly, is Doomsday like normally like its own thing and not like a clone thingy? Yeah, I think Doomsday is meant to be his own thing. I do know. Yeah, I'm supposed to be his zombie. Zombie Zod, Zodby. Oh, damn. Superman's already kind of done. This was like, stop it. I'm the cool one. Ah, not again. Nothing happened. I'm supposed to not destroy buildings anymore. Shit. Somebody announced that this place is mostly nobody's around. Oh, it's a bug, guys. They're done. Well, definitely can't send a police helicopter after this one at least. No, we still need a giant light beam that shoots up into the sky. Hopefully we get that. Oh, let's flare. It's time for the Justice League to team up and take on Doomsday. Oh, one of them is on point. So this is pretty interesting to think about, huh? There's this creature that's going to be causing some havoc. I guess maybe Wonder Woman will come out of retirement. Because, I mean, you know, Man of Steel events wasn't really a reason for her to get involved in that. And as we know, she is sheltered from the world. It's not like she's seven years old. Wow. That's some crazy aim. Yeah, what a crazy throw. He wasn't even looking. What a legendary Urukay. Lutz is like, how'd you get so blue? Oh, that was something you can do. Oh, my God. Holy shit. He just did the Godzilla thing. Yeah, so Metropolis just got nuked a second time. How best to describe it? Metropolis airspace has been closed briefly. Is that a second joke? Hey, man. I think that was a second joke. He's been snocking throughout the whole movie. As Fringy said, he's like the best character. He is the best character. Pretty much. I really do like Jeremy Irons as Alfredo. Yeah, he's the best. Okay, wait. So Superman travels really fucking fast, okay? He's just... We're already clear of the clouds. He's going up. Looks like he's taking it into space. We can go straight to key red, Mr. President. Not yet. Dude, crazy. Let him hide. Let him just keep flying forever. No cash. Yes, one cash. So the logic here is, should we nuke him now because it's away from civilians? Just let him throw him into the sun. So let him keep going. I think it's a fair question to ask, but there is an obvious answer. They're already... Yes. Are you shitting me? They're about to fire. There is no fucking way. A nuclear missile? There's no fucking way. Look how far he's gone. Oh my god. This is the way. Dude, take a ploy. Wait, are they shooting the nuke at Superman? They're shooting at these two. Yeah, this is the target. And look, Superman's almost perished him into fucking space. No, just let him keep going. Let him keep going. It's so funny. I hate this movie already now. Yeah, just let him keep going. Let him fly into space for the rest of eternity. Hey Superman, while you just get to grab the missile, grab the missile and yeet it away from you. I laid the missile, Karen. This is the right thing to do. But now, Doomstay's going to fall to the ground. So that was terrible. There's a couple of things that could happen. One, the best case scenario is they both die because Kryptonians can't survive a nuke. But we already know that's not the fucking case. Yeah, so the worst case scenario is that Doomstay now falls back down. Does all that radiation like fall to the ground? Blowing up a nuke that high up, it's not that high up. The nuclear warhead will detonate high above the Earth's surface and people on the ground will not feel a thing. Powerful electromagnetic waves destroy electrical circuits. One of the most wired nations in the world will go dark. I still blame Superman somehow. Like, I feel like they're still going to get serious repercussions. Which is weird when they were much higher up than that. They were in space. Yeah, they were already in space. Projectile one, impact, Strikers Island, east of Metropolis. That's uninhabited. And yeah, so do you. Thank you. Thank you for that. Thank you. It's so bad. You nailed those two lines. She goes, it's a metropolis. She goes, oh, that's uninhabited too, probably. Projectile two was Superman. So the nuke hit Superman and doomsday. Doomsday crashed to Earth and he's already up and at them. Superman is floating in space, dead, temporarily. Even though doomsday was the one who absorbed the brunt. Yeah, I do not understand how any of that makes sense, but fine. Also, now he's got a second skill. Are you a, are you a scaly boy now? It's going to. Now he's working like. Number three. Hey, laser. Yeah. It was a short laser, but it was something. Wasn't even blue. It wasn't blue. It was red. So imagine for a moment, if you will, that Superman had crashed down there and doomsday was floating up here looking like this. I'm sorry. How would the force of the nuke have made it so that Superman was just floating right above? I don't fucking know, man. But your Martian Manhunt is announced on the spring to action one. Yeah, buddy, you should be helping. Also, Batman. I'm not sure you can help with this one. Yeah. I know you want to try, buddy, but look at this. Alfred, did they nuke it? Yeah. Okay, I'm out. Well, it is not much else I can do. Alfred, it's Kryptonian. The only Kryptonite weapons can kill us. It might, if you had any left. Spent it all? Got one round left. He's got one gas round and the spear. And the spear. It's a true Kryptonite. If I can penetrate the skin, the spear will kill it. So isn't that what the spear is for? Penetrating the skin. So now do you just get that? Get it to chase me. Just go back, get the spear and come back. Yeah, so he needs to get the spear. So if he has doomsday chase him, then he'll get the spear and kill him. Instead of just go get it and come back. Go get the spear and then, yeah, come back to doomsday. Doomsday's chill. He's just sitting here. Why are you going to make him follow you into Gotham? Into a highly populated city. Why would you to? No, Gotham is not inhabited yet. That's right, it's not inhabited yet. Fucking dumbass. Gotham is barely inhabitable, all right. Oh, look, he died and he's coming back. Oh, lucky the sun just came out. Like, Jesus, it took you a really long time. It would if it was just, you know, on the other side. Whatever they did with his face was really uncanny. Because I guess the nuke also powered up Superman after a second. No, the sun. Yeah, the sun did it, but... But so the nuke powers up the doomsday, but it doesn't power up Superman. Yeah, because he's got Lex Luthor's blood and Lex is powered up by nuke. But nuke's kill people. Lies. I don't understand. Just because nuke's kill people in the real world doesn't mean that they kill people in the comic book movies. It's a comic book movie. Oh no, someone's got to save him. Don't you love that trope where they just can't get out of their vehicles? The ejections just don't work for some reason. Yeah, my god. You can walk back with the fucking bracers. Yeah, everyone cheer, please. They always come with racers. Cheers. Look, she used her best weapon. Oh, they didn't do much. Use your love laser, go. They use your laser love. You learn that by eating yours. The power of love. Superman, up. Go back up. Superman, no. What do you mean? Oh, Superman. No, no. And so Lois seeing this is like the spear, of course. I have no idea what's happening. But we need the spear. Her objective is to throw a spear into a little bit of... It's not that hard to run, Lois. It's just a little plund. And then you have to jump to the spear. I just don't get it. Why did she conclude, oh, I need the spear? It's like, how do you... What? Remember, guys, the port is abandoned. So it's OK. Yeah, they brought it to a port and span it. We're fine. Find the spear. I've been a little busy. This thing, this creature, seems to feed on energy. That wasn't very good. And also probably wasn't a good idea to throw it into an explosion. Oh, hey, remember the shield she doesn't have in 84? I've killed things from other worlds before. No, you haven't. You haven't killed things from other worlds before. Wait, yes. You killed her and then you fought Max and then... Where was that movie? I guess we're going to get another Wonder Woman prequel at some point. She's got a sword and shield now. We didn't... Oh, nice. She had a sword in the first movie. They got a little febrile. That seems to have destroyed. But the real sword was loved. Yeah, she's got a new... Oh, my God, again. Okay, look at this. Batman hid under a rock. Now look what it does to everything else. Congratulations. No, no, it's fine. He's got the bat plot armor on him. It's so fucking dumb. They made sure to show us that he jumped under a rock and then they showed rocks. Wow, that's a good shield. Made from pure airy skin. So the woman can kill her. Maybe it's made from airy's ballsack. It's really just super thick. Good music again though. Yeah, yeah. So Superman, maybe you should take him up and just bathe. Yeah, seems to work pretty well. So his sword can cut through him. Like we're of a kryptonite. It's the only thing that can breach their skin as kryptonites, but his sword also can. So what is this sword? Because you've lost the God killer. What is this one? I love that it's just Batman just simply can't do anything against this thing. All I want to do is just stand and look around. I feel kind of bad for him. It's like, dude, you should go. Like I don't, you know, also I find it infinitely funny that she's about to drown. Because she was, because she threw the spear at the water. Lois, you had one job, but of course, whenever she's in distress, Superman detects it. Use this laser. Oh, remember? He has lasers, yeah. Yeah, this is like Harry Potter. Yep. You just got a face laser. Superman. Oh, I remember. It's not her. He can hear that. Oh, how did you hear that over everything? Yeah, how did you know what it was? Yeah, how do you figure that's a person rather than just rubble, move it around? I don't know. But yeah, there he got her again because she can't be killed. Lois in this movie. Lois in all of them. No sense, but like, she doesn't need to be in these films. They just drop her in to be. She feels just token. Yeah. I saved you because that's what I do. Remember, we love each other. This is so sad. You're very much in. Get the spear. Can he not even hold the spear? I guess. Okay, yeah. I guess he can't buy like the staff, right? Yeah, just hold it really far away. Lift it up with your feet. Genuinely. But what is this? Dark Fire Return Shot. That's cool. That's a really cool shot. Yeah, but like, yeah, but this won't mean. Like, this is what Zack Snyder does. Hey, look, that's a cool shot. Yeah, he can do really cool shots. He just can't write or, you know, direct for shit. Dude, this couple of seconds has more stakes in it than anything in the movie. Yeah, like I. Oh, Batman. So yeah, Batman has to try his ass off just to not be in his way. Like, that's actually interesting. Yeah, I like that. But the other two are just sort of like, yeah, punch, punch, punch, punch. I guess Lois can like, oh, I ride. He's got the kryptonite. He's all flimpy now. So remember, when he when he was holding this, the spear, he was really weak. Remember that? Yeah, like really weak. Like he couldn't even fucking get up. We find it. He's bought for a throw, right? Because like when he gets shot, the bullets don't go. The suit never gets fucked up. Yeah. Well, Zod could spin him around by his cape and it doesn't tear anything. So I'm not saying that for any reason. Oh, look at that sexy pose. She's still into this. She doesn't care if anyone's actually safe. She's supposed to look good. Does that not feel inconsistent? Oh, shit. So we've just discovered... She's super cool with fighting people. His sword can kill this thing, for sure. That's amazing. And it's like our only hope is that... I meant like what little character one woman has. Like she seems to be like, yeah, fighting. Well, she's like Black Panther kind of like in someone else's movie. He's fucking great. Yeah, I would argue she's definitely stronger in this movie than any of his. I think she's better in this, yeah. Oh, yeah. So if her sword is capable of chopping that thing's hand off, she could easily chop that thing's head off too, right? So what we need to do is Batman needs to fire a gas grenade and then Wonder Woman needs to chop its head off. Wonder Woman's also way more durable in this movie than any of the others. Like in the first one, a bullet could have killed her. Oh, you can fly while holding it. Nice. Tell the truth. I don't know. I don't know what that's going to do. Tell the truth. It's like, I'm just angry. And I don't know why. I'm hungry. Now's your chance. Now is the chance. Chop off his head. It's the one contribution that Batman can make to this fight. I would actually say as well, hey, Batman, what was your follow up there? Like, what were you going to do? I guess that he apparently he knew that Superman was coming with a spear. He couldn't have. So they don't talk on little, little things. Hey, that's not Crip. Can you do that? I mean, Superman's weak. So I guess when you get weakened by Kryptonite, you see, oh yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah, that's why I said it. It's just amazing that Wonder Woman could have done. What is Wonder Woman doing right now, actually? It's fell over. No, no, you want to. Probably more good leaving it inside. Yeah, yeah. Make sure it goes right through the hole. Oh, another laser. We did it. So lame. And that you wasted it. That is the death of Superman. Comboed up with Batman. What is it? Returns, but which is the one that returns? Dark Knight returns. The Dark Knight returns, yeah. Man, what a what a waste of it. Like, if they had built this up over like, I don't know, a six movie arc or something. You do demand this is the Civil War ending equivalent for the MCU DCU sort of thing. No, this is the second movie in the DCEU. Second one. I know this is the fourth in our like timeline, but this is the second that they've done and like that they've released. Can we just like the whiplash from watching Wonder Woman 84 to watching Maddie stealer this? Like, are these movies aware of each other? Do y'all know you exist? Was there a plan? Wonder Woman. Funnily enough, yeah, you watch it chronologically and you're like, what the hell is this movie trying to say? Wonder Woman's been fighting crime for ages. More Jesus imagery right here. Yeah, it's not this film's fault that Wonder Woman has been battling people for years and just said that. Yeah, it's not this fault, yeah. Pieta. Though I would say it is this film's. It is kind of this film's fault for like implying that Wonder Woman would come out of retirement for this fight, but not the one in Man of Steel. I don't understand that at all. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless she just wasn't around, maybe she wasn't available. You've got to account for that. They try, but they fail. Oh, I know. This is very sad, by the way. Her act is really bad though in this one. That's an expression. Sort of. Her acting skills are like. She looks up at her like. But can you see the like the eyebrows, the eye, the nose, the mouth? Amy Adams is making it all a thing. What woman's like? I think I am sad. So like earlier in the film, she's doing a decent job with acting and now it's like kind of just going away. And then we have the Wonder Woman movies where she's just awful. He was diminishing the moment she entered this. I mean, look at the way she's standing there. She looks so bored. Yes, it looks like she's just rolling her eyes. It's like I lost my not lost my flight. I missed my flight. By the way, no commentary on like, was anyone hurt by this? Like, civilian wise, just like, no, no, no. It's all clear. That all clear is fine. Oh, this is the Stinger, right? This is this is this is an additional scene inside. There's 20 wax zero. Yeah. Oh, well, yeah. But this is one of possibly many stingers. I guess I don't know. Hey, guys, do you recognize this guy? Oh, I don't remember this. Why would this be in a Kryptonian ship? What? So the ship was telling Lex about Steppenwolf and the Motherboxes. And the Motherboxes, yeah. Why are you in the goo? There's all the beatings in it. Get out of the goo. Remember because Lex is bald. This is a payoff, guys. Seriously, I feel so bad for like comic fans getting this Lex Lutha. I control everything in this town, Superman. Your cooperation is not really necessary. The offer was merely a courtesy. Imagine if they messed up that shot and they weren't recording. It's like, oh, shit. He ain't got how to cut. You have to get away. I have to get out of here. They could do an Nazi shot or just to leave your head when you put you in prison. Like they take your hair. Like they don't shave it down. So you're like completely bald. I thought people are allowed to keep their head in prison. Superman dead. There should be a comma between a terrible night of chair morning of loss. One of our own clock camp will be missed. It's like, huh, very Samba movie. It's very bad movie payoff. Yeah. So like a big, long story. He does feel that way. Doesn't it? Like, look how far we've come. It's like, is this the second movie? Look at all the empty businesses. It's like Corona. Is the implication that everybody is at Superman's funeral? I wouldn't go. I'd be like, fuck him. It's fine. Pretty shitty job at stopping Zod. So yeah, I could see some people being pissed at it. But at the same time, it would have been nice to have had that be in this film, that conversation between anyone. Someone being like, wow, he fucked it up. And someone being like, no, he saved us. Because we never really got a strong understanding of Batman's position. Hey, it's that ginger. Oh, look at that. And it's Reverend Man. It's not the same Reverend that he asked for advice and then ignored. Yeah. He went there to did nothing. Basically, nothing happened. Oh, look, let's kill the children, man. So I have to ask, like, how exactly did they manage to get Clark's body back if he was killed in his Superman costume and probably an autopsy was done on him? Like, you know, there's a giant hole in his chest. Yeah, then they have to, like, somehow get that out. And then they haven't, haven't moved to Kansas. You'd be Kryptonian biology. They'd be like, whoa, look at these cells. Look at everything. Whoa. Yeah, he's not being taken back to Kansas. Amy Adams put the glasses back on him before the police showed up. So it was all good. Why is he cosplaying right now? How stupid. How did Clark think it here? Where did Superman go? And he stole Superman's outfit, too. Like, is that Clark learning how to fly somehow? There can't be a body for both of these funerals, right? No. And also, wouldn't somebody just look at the two pictures and be like, okay, so Superman looks very similar to this guy, Clark Kent, who died the same night. Yeah, well, that's not enough to go on. It's like when people say, hey, you know, Dave Grohl looks a lot like the drummer from Nirvana. And then, and then when Superman comes back, Clark Kent is going to come back to life at the same time, too. There's no way that no one will know. Hey, it'll be like, how does he have a sacred identity after he? Oh, I guess. Yeah, we won't, we won't know that because it never, we would never really got there, did we? Because. Oh my God. We might get it in Snyder cut, maybe. Maybe. Hope you like slow, slow motion rags. Oh, I've watched 300. It's all good. Yeah, he's had loads, with two hours and 45 in, like it's, he's definitely experienced a bit of slow mo at this point. And if we're watching Justice League, the new one would still have an hour left. No, yeah, that's going to be all right. Jesus. Clark has his funeral, Superman has his funeral. One of the boxes is empty. I'm guessing it's Clark's box is empty. I'm guessing they're both empty actually. They probably kept the body. No, no, no, no, no, no. The woman Clark's body, that's, that's not empty. They showed Clark's body. Oh yeah, you're right. I assumed that when the case, because that would have been dumb. Oh yeah. Wait, so they didn't, how does that work? Wow. How does that work? That's exactly what I was trying to point out is like, when Superman, when Superman's body is found, it's him in the Superman costume with a giant hole in his chest. So then it's like, well, then how do they, they get him away from wherever they did the autopsy? How do they know that Superman is dead if there's no body? That's precisely, and then they somehow. One of them lacks a body. We just found out it has to be Superman because Clark's body is there, which means, wow, I have a lot of questions. They somehow got Clark's folded flag like he was in the military. Right? This is a really necessary shot by the way. It is. It's Lomo. So cool. Imagine being ginger guy in the first movie and they're like, come back for the second one. You're like, oh my God, really? Oh, yeah, I'd love to come. You know, I was just ginger guy, but like, yeah. Off set, everyone like loves him. He's really funny and nice and. We're going to make you doomsday. What? You ever thought about forming some kind of a league for justice or something? Putting together a team. We're about to get that scene. I failed in life. I won't fail him in death. I don't think, no, you saved his mom and killed, you helped out a lot. Yeah. Considering your capability. Yeah, it's pretty good. I know, fight. We have to stand together. 100 years ago, I walked away from mankind. No, you didn't. Like maybe 30 years ago. Men made a world where standing together is impossible. Impassable. So that's not true. Everyone renounced their wish. Yeah, everyone went together in 84. Yeah. I find it endlessly amusing that just justice league is the one that Patty Jenkins considers illegitimate when this film is absolutely part of the canon. Patty Jenkins shout all over this film like she didn't give a fuck. Because remember Wonder Woman one ends with her riding off into the sunset to fight more. But that was after that was. Oh, sorry. That was in the future. Yeah. So once she got the photo back in that, that's when she's reignited to fight again. Which is weird because at the end of this film, they're already talking about creating the Justice League. Why did you say they'll have to fight? What? Okay, wait, I have more on that. Just a feeling. That's it. Just a feeling. It's like Finn and Rise of Skywalk. Batman is force sensitive. You're like, all right, weather, fuck off. I was just going to say that Wonder Woman, when the war ends, when she beats Ares and she's all chuffed about it, and then she sees the people have died and she's all sad and stuff. That didn't seem to me like the film was saying she's done with men or man rather. No, no, no. So unless these people are working with Batman, I don't know how this happened. What? Widing. Somebody said a light switch. He made it all red. Oh, Zach, my goodness. This is like a high top production. Red is evil. This is how it all caves in. Civilization on the wane. Manors out the window. That doesn't keep that one hot. Self is like an iron. But it would believe me. I'm insane. I'm not even fit to stand trial. We have hospitals to treat the mentally ill with compassion. But that's not where you're going. I ring for you to get transferred to Ark of Asylum in Gotham. I still have some friends there. They're expecting you. See, so that makes it sound like he does send the branded people to go get killed in Gotham. So yeah, that is all. And they've heard it. Out in the dark among the stars. And down the god is dead. So does Lex Luthor went like this? What? Why did Batman do that? Why? Hold on. Yeah. Hold on. I don't know. So does he want the world to just like get destroyed? Hang on. And he's coming. He sucks in this movie. He shaved his head for this. Why do they shave his eyebrows? What did they? No, he's just an eyebrow. He just does unfortunate eyebrows. Oh, that's upside down. Oh, he did the thing. Disney Devils cover above. Our redeeming's are coming from the sky. Ain't that clever? I like the painting though. I don't know what that scene was. Why would he be happy, by the way? Is he happy that dark side and stuff are going to be coming to Earth and killing everybody? That's what I'm trying to figure out here. Like, what are you trying to do? What's your goal? Also, why is it that Batman was hell-bent on branding him? And then once he told him I'm insane, he was like, well, I guess I won't. Like, why would that make him? Yeah, what was the point of him bringing out the brand? Just to speak it out. Why don't you punch the wall with the brand? Was it just to intimidate him? Did he change his mind? Like, I don't... When he told him he was insane, he was like, there's a place to deal with people like you. It's Arkham City, Arkham Asylum, but I would have said you there. So, what convinced him to not do the thing? This makes a lot less sense now. That makes a lot less sense now. Thank God, the dirt flooded. What are we supposed to think of the dirt rising there? I don't know. Oh, the dirt rising. That should be the fucking... That should be the name of this DCEU universe. Is the dirt rises. We did it. BVS is down. Extended version. Yeah, that's 7 plus 5 minutes. Woo! All right, did it. Well, well. That was BVS. It was indeed. Finn did believe it. Patience. That was really awful. Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty bad. That was pretty bad. But you know what? I wouldn't say it's as bad as Man of Steel. I wouldn't say this as bad as the three. Yeah, it seems the best of the four. I think it's just one sense. That's a small factor moment. You know what? This has Jeremy Irons as Alfred. This has a pretty cool Batman. It's got a really great Batman action sequence. Fundamentally though, like, there are a lot of plot problems. So just... Yeah, the plot is intact. That's how it acts. Yeah, well, that's good. Yeah, I don't know. I think the first half is better than anything else, but the latter half is worse than Man of Steel. I would agree the first half is better, but a lot of that's because it doesn't seem like much is going on. Don't watch this happening. I would also... Don't forget how bad Man of Steel is, please. I beg you. Yeah, no, I don't agree with that. If you want to reference anything, there's probably going to be an equivalent for Man of Steel, right? Maybe. I don't know. Some total of everything we saw today is pretty awful, so... I agree. I don't know. I feel like I'm on an episode of Best of the Worst or something. Yeah, it was really hard to figure it all out, but my gut instinct is that this sits above the three of them. This works. I think this was surprisingly tolerable compared to the other three. Surprisingly tolerable. Compared to the other three is the keyword, not just surprisingly tolerable. I enjoyed some of this, you know? Some of it, yeah. Whereas I didn't enjoy any of those lost three. Man of Steel, again. I enjoyed Wonder Woman 84 mentally. You enjoyed some of Wonder Woman 84. I knew Wonder Woman 84 was the most enjoyable. I want to match the key difference. Anything I reference in 84, for the most part, there's some of Max Lord that I'm enjoying because I think it's actually good, but then most of it's hilarious. This stuff in, they said I'm enjoying some like, okay, yeah. Like this is entertaining. There's some unironically okay stuff in this film. I was enjoying it for the reasons that they created it. Oh, yeah, it's wicked. Batman, cool. Look at that fight. Isn't that cool? Yeah. You know what's funny is someone might be like, you think BVS is better than Wonder Woman? Maybe like, you need to understand the context of that statement. Okay. Wonder Woman is really, really, really bad. I don't know. I feel like there's... Go ahead. The only thing good about Wonder Woman is parts of what's-his-face... Chris Pine. Chris Pine's character. That's basically it. This has a cool Batman, a cool Alfred, so already it's ahead. Well, it's probably worth mentioning, as people should probably know, we don't mind Batman killing people. Not necessarily as a continuation of any other Batman who doesn't just as this, clearly this instance of Batman is a disgruntled crazy man. And so him killing people is something that he has decided in his journey that he will do. Yeah, I'm going to drop a hot take here. I don't have an issue with Batman killing people in general because unlike Superman, he doesn't... It's not like he's bulletproof, he's unkillable, and he can deal with people without any risk to himself. Well, the issue comes in usually... But you're defending yourself. With his psychology is that he doesn't want to kill, because he doesn't want to become the people he's trying to stop and stuff like that become. That's what people usually point to. But I would just be like, this vision of Batman isn't doing that, I don't know. Yeah, I think it's fine to not want to kill people. I also think it's fine for him to take the approach of, well, they are using guns, I'm not, I need to use lethal force. Like, I will use lethal force if I have to. He's much more punisher-y in this than... Like, I don't think it's wrong to use lethal force. To defend yourself. For me, my thing is more just, I just don't like it. I don't really like this Batman, but it's fine. Like, you can do whatever you want. The hardest take of this whole thing is probably that I'm totally fine with him, the most part. Not necessarily how he's portrayed in this film, just with conceptually. Because this is a really fucking crazy universe. Like, everything I know about Wonder Woman, Batman and Superman is just not relevant to these films. It's like, okay, throw that out. It's like, he has a Batmobile still, and I'm like, okay. So, are you all agreed that this is probably the best that we've seen so far? Of the full, yeah. But it's not like a significant margin. We can't understate just how the third act is really crap. Look at it! All right, I'll be the one contrarian here. I think there are things in this that are better than, like, Wonder Woman, the first one, and Man of Steel. But there are things that are worse in this movie, too. So... What would you say to that? Well, I mean, we can talk about the whole Martha thing. I mean, it's memed to death, but I think that's worse. That as an ending to the Batman... Is that worse than, I believe in love laser through the chest, though? Do you know what I mean? I think it might be, honestly. I will destroy you! Sorry, that's worse. No, I don't really... I mean, it's a cheesy line, but I don't think it's worse. Like, I... Is your sort of core there the criticism of Batman as being out of character to have paused at that moment or the contrivance of both their mothers being named Martha or...? The central conflict of the film, i.e. Batman vs Superman, is resolved in that moment, and then they're all of a sudden on the same team together. It's really retarded. Yeah, the name of the film is Batman vs Superman. Ignoring that, I would just appeal to this journey they both on throughout this movie. I don't believe for a second that Batman would have stopped trying to kill him in that moment. Yeah, if you want to do it right, you have to change all of it, but the payoff should have been... He should have been him saying, save my mom. Sorry, I wanted to stop you right at you have to change all of it, because that's why I'm saying this is worse than the other movies. I don't know if I... So you think it's the worst of the four? No, I don't think that this is worse than the other four. I think that, yeah, that's a really bad... That's not the worst of all of them. Sorry, Wonder Woman 84 is the worst of all of them. So do you think the worst, the most significant singular issue across all four films is the Martha moment? No, not all four. Wonder Woman 84. Worse. Okay, okay, okay. The top three. The top three. You think that the worst singular moment is Martha? I think there is more good in this movie, but also more bad. So I think... I don't agree. I think that there's less bad than... I think there's less bad too. Man of Steel was a roller coaster of terrible. What about the whole doomsday? Yeah, I mean, everything that you say for like doomsday and Martha, it's like, well, dude, nothing... Like Wonder Woman, the first movie, has a lot of retarded shit in it. And Man of Steel, it's hugely inefficient. I don't disagree. Wonder Woman 84, the wish thing at the end is like the singular most worst thing ever. Yeah, I'd say that's the worst thing. Yeah, I thought I said that. I think we all worry on that. Yeah. Oh, so excluding 84 from this conversation then. I think... God, it's so hard. They're all so close in that they're all... I think Man of Steel is so incomprehensible. Like, there's so much that's going on that I'm not understanding at all, Brad. At least I can kind of understand like what they're trying to go for here, which I don't with Man of Steel. I think that would be the big thing is that from a world-building perspective, this film was probably sounded than Man of Steel. Like the whole... Absolutely. ...Turney and Empire dying like that. I think it beats the other two out by miles because it doesn't appeal to this enormous history that makes no sense at all. And when we talk about whatever this continuity is, Batman v Superman slots in better than Wonder Woman even does in some ways and certainly more so than 84. Can I say that, like, I think the singular greatest piece of plot arm I've ever seen is Batman evading, like, disintegration beams by height and by drop. Like, that was incredible. That's what I'm saying. Okay, so there's... Where I'm stuck is that there are things that are better in this movie than anything in Wonder Woman or Man of Steel. But there are things that I think are... When you add them all up are worse. So there's the whole creation of Doomsday. There's the Martha thing. There's the fact that they think Superman did this even though they should obviously know he didn't. We could, for each one of those, we could find equivalents pretty easily from Man of Steel and Wonder Woman. Yeah, I think we're at the point where... I think we're at the point where all those bad things are just kind of, like, par for the course. Well, I specifically, yes. Like, these are in all of them, but this one has some good stuff. That's honestly my take. If we're dealing with just shitty movies, we have to basically just realize, okay, which one's... Which movie has the least number of shitty things in it? And I'm pretty sure that the other three movies that we've watched have worse... Like, many worse things than this. I think the Mola's right. This is a lot of Chonker of a movie, though. Isn't that actually pretty impressive? This is a longer movie and it has fewer problems. I would say no, I'm saying that there might be more sheer number of problems because it's so goddamn long. I think what I think I agree with Mola, like what I would appeal to is that there are things in this that I actually legitimately like, which I can't say for the other films. I enjoyed it more than Man of Steel or Wonder Woman. Well, like, it balances out. Like, when you have stuff that's good as well as stuff that's bad, it at least balances out somewhat, whereas, like, if you have a story that's written about as poorly as The Last Jedi, but there's many more things that you might like about it, Spider-Man 2, you know, it's obviously not going to be as bad as The Last Jedi then. There you go, bringing up Spider-Man 2 again. I know, I'm sorry, I just, I have to. I have to. Like, I feel like issue per time was quite low in the first half considering how high it was in the other ones. Yeah, no, if it was the first half versus all the other ones, it's definitely the best. Yeah, usually. But I feel like the issue per time in the second half was about on par with the others. Yeah. Right, and so when you couple it all together, it ends up getting on the first part. And then you add in the scenes that are actually pretty good and then some of the choices are made of it. I think BVS steals it, I really do. I appreciate, I respect your opinion. I'm going to be a contrarian and say that I think it's slightly worse. That's, that's all right. Um, I want to mention that, yeah, we got, uh, so in order that we've been watching them, goes Ares, no way, yeah, Ares Max Lord, I guess. This is the third, right? I'm not fucking that up. Wait, no, it's not. No, it's not, it's not, it's not. And then Lex Luthor and Doomsday. Yeah, like, wow, what a, what a selection. Max Lord is the best one. Max Lord is easily the best. Yeah. Do we, do we skip over Lex Luthor or? No, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to mention that. I'm not going to mention Lex. All terrible Max Lord, just bad? If I was to, like, he's the only one that I'd be like, yeah. Max Lord's biggest issue is his powers are like world breaking. I also think he's just, he's lost around the halfway mark where we don't really know what he's doing. Yeah. And they find him again at the end, but in the middle he's very confusing. He was almost, almost great, you know. I like Zod better than Lex Luthor. Yeah. For what that's for. Zod, Zod was like a meat head. Zod doesn't annoy me. Yeah, this, this version of Lex Luthor is a disaster. So annoying. Like is this, okay, so is Lex Luthor the worst villain so far? So how do we, how do we define him worst? Cause he's- Well, Chater, Chater is the worst, I think, right? Which one annoys us the most or which one is the most poorly written is the question, I guess, right? Lex probably annoys me the most out of all. Yeah, let's keep it easy and stick with annoyance. He's easily the most annoying. I mean, we at least understand Cheetah's motivation, right? Yeah, kind of. What's Lex Luthor's motivation here? He hates God. If he wants to- You hit him, he said. Edgy Reddus Atheist. He said, he said you can't be all powerful and all good and you can't be all good and all powerful. I don't know if that was his way of saying like, you're a bad person because you're powerful. Therefore, you can't be all good. Like, I have to stop you because you're powerful but then he created Doomsday. Like, what the fuck are you doing? He's just stirring the pot to see what happens. That's really it. Honestly, I think there's going to be several people's like different interpretations of what the fuck his motivation was. It'd be like, clearly he was getting revenge on his dad. All right. Yeah, I feel like Zod's plan might actually make the most sense. Oh, no, Max is right. What was his plan? No, by the end of that movie, he was insane. Like, I don't even think that he had a plan by the end of that film. He was just nuts. Yeah, I guess he gets a little bit lost, sure. But Zod's plan doesn't make any sense. He's destroying a planet and killing a whole bunch of people in exchange for starting a war. Quote unquote terraforming it. Yeah, he's a Kryptonian supremacist. Yeah, but that doesn't make sense. Like, the planet is clearly much more inhabitable for his species than terraforming it is. Like, it's just a really weird thing that he's doing for no reason. And he can be a super powered dude if he allows everything to remain the same. I think he can be super powered regardless, right? Because it's the sun specifically, not Earth. Okay, well, still. It's very pleasant whether or not he terraforms it. And if he terraforms it, he basically wipes out all of the everything that we've done as humans and he makes an enemy out of us forever. He's a very stupid man. But it gets him Krypton. He's the smartest. Like, I guess if the argument is just, yeah, he's arrogant. He's gonna have his way. You'd be like, all right. I guess you're right that he makes the most... Well, Doomsday, I guess, right? He's just a thing going... Yeah, I mean, that was a question I had and maybe it's a stupid question, but what does Doomsday want? What does Doomsday feel like? He wants to destroy things. He's big-menster. You know what I mean? Like, if he's an animal, right? An animal would probably run away and avoid. But it doesn't make any sense. He's just malevolent and aggressive for no reason. Sure, why not? He's an abomination, right? He was creating... They warned Lex. They were like, don't do it. Don't bring back a flume because it'll go all angry. I guess this one makes me feel the last feeling. Like, I don't have as many feelings about this one. Yeah. Yeah, I feel pretty deflated. But that's sort of its strength in a way that will, like, for its sake. But I mean, for enjoyment-wise, it was just a lot of sort of like, okay, I'm just watching this scene happen. Oh, look, we had the Lex Luthor stick a Jolly Rancher in that guy's mouth. That was a scene. I don't know what that added to, like, anything. But I guess it's a fetish thing. There was totally plenty for Zach to not only cut out, but to keep at the normal speed. In fact, times two, but a bit of option in several locations. I don't think anything with that dream flash shows up. I don't think that was necessary at all. Well, we don't know you. I would have had a time travel person. I would call it fanservice, honestly. That's the flash. People would love seeing that if they're all into this. He shows. So if we just watch this, then we're supposed to... So that's the flash coming from another time? I guess the tears come to an end. We're not going to just watch this. We have to watch Justice League. Oh, we will be, yeah. Do we have to? Yeah, yeah, because we need to watch Justice League to know what was changed, you know? Fucking dumb. And I think the interesting thing is that there was meant to be two parter of Justice League at first. Yeah. That scene may still not make sense. Wait, so the Snyder cut is just a part one? He didn't film both films. Like, this is the thing. Like, this is not the end of his plan. This is kind of like the thing that people are spinning now of. Oh, well, no, this is the end of like the three arc journey. It's like, no, there was meant to be a second part. It will never happen, but there was meant to be a part two. Where they fight dark side. I guess it could happen if it does really well. I don't think it will. No, I don't believe it will happen. No, I think they are putting this out to just appease people, and then that's the end, and they're never going to go back to this sort of thing. Dude, if it's super successful, they'll probably think about it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It won't be, but if it was. I don't know that it will be super successful. I think that there's a pretty small crowd that are clamoring for this film. I mean, I wouldn't want to gas on how successful. I don't know. Like gun to my head. I would assume it's not going to be that successful, but I don't know. It's a very loud vocal minority. I think that's what that successful means. Like, is it going to make a billion dollars? I don't think so. At least, well, no, I don't think so. But also the idea of like, what if what if everyone thinks it's shit? You know? Yeah. I mean, all the people out there, because I've seen posts about it. A lot of people are already saying like Zack Snyder does not understand Superman or Batman. So those people still exist. They're going to watch him be like, fuck this. This is not these characters. I'm pretty convinced that the people that were demanding for the center cut, they're going to say it's good, no matter what it actually is, because they praise Man of Steel and this movie. I'm sure they would say that we will say it's bad, no matter what it is. Oh, well, I mean, we I think I came away from this one a little bit surprised that I didn't hate it quite as much. Yeah, I think it should tell you how bad I thought this film was that I think it's better than I thought. Will we will we give this one like a three of four? Like, what's the you have to sort of zoom in? You have to zoom into the tie of the graph now and be like, we got to get into the points. Yeah. Like, does this get up to 3.54 range? The absolute highest I would give this film is a four, but I don't know if it gets there. I think that's yeah. I'm going to say probably. Yeah, I'm fine. I'm going to point five. I probably go 3.5 as well. I know I almost want it to be a three, and that means I have to lower the other two below three, but like high twos, I guess. 3.1. If this were a three, I could put the other two at like 2.8 and 2.7 or something. I don't know, depending on like they get rounded to threes, but they're not, they're really bad. I'm one there. There are 84 as a two. They're on the council of threes, but they are not. The council of threes. We are the council of threes. We are dirt rising. Like I can't understate. Man of Steel was so much worse than I ever thought it was. Yeah. Man of Steel actually gave me a headache looking at it. Yep. This movie didn't give me a headache. Oh, and yeah, despite its length, I do think this is better than theatrical version by quite a bit. Oh, I definitely do. It's definitely better. There's quite a few things that make no fucking sense in the theatrical compared to this. Yeah. I think I think it solves some issues, but far from like the biggest ones. So yeah, I agree. It's slightly more coherent. Yeah, the simple vision is it solves some problems. It doesn't create any that didn't already exist, I think. Well, okay. No, no, no, no, no. The fact that they threw, they had the Russian guy throw the lady into the train in front of all those people. That creates a new problem. Sure. There's a lot of things like that. I bet in this. Yeah, you know, I'm kind of talking about my ass because I can't remember everything that wasn't in, you know, I had to prepare them. I remember that wasn't in the theatrical cut. The idea that I might rewatch the theatrical version just to find out. The Russian man is bad. It's not going to happen. That's another one down. Next up, canonically would be Suicide Squad, is it? Yes. Yes. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Depending on time. Oh, man. I'm not looking for that one. Depending on our timeline. I haven't seen Suicide Squad. I've just heard that it's horrible. Famously bad. I thought it was fun bad. Oh, yeah, dude. It should be a lot of fun. I'm hoping. When we watch that movie, we're going to be the real Suicide Squad. No, I get it. Kill ourselves. Okay, okay. Okay, I have something to lift the spirits before we head out of here. Well, I think I know what you're going to say. Batwoman. Batwoman season three. Yeah. Wow. Oh, my God. I can't believe it. I can't either. It's insane. I'm so happy. Dude. What did you bring me?