 The following is a presentation of TFNN Trade what you see With Larry Pezzavento All now toll-free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at 727-873-7618 Now Larry Pezzavento Okay, looking good Billy Ray feeling good Lewis Well, we start out by going across the pond to take a look at the footsie and the Dax and as you can see from the charts that I Posted here. They really don't care what's going on here in the United States And they shouldn't because they have their own thing and that's what they should be doing now the next chart I want to show you I'm going to answer the question from our good friend Basil Chapman And that is about the gold market. So give me one second here, and I'll bring this up We had a major sell signal in that gold on Monday at 1852 and we got filled at 1852 and I'm almost embarrassed to say but I have to do it Market broke $14. I raised the stop to only risk $2. We got stopped out on the exact dick 1854 and now the market is broken down below the 78 percent level at 1793 that's was a low so far today below 1793 folks Sets up a potential for this thing to go all the way down to 1680 and I may be even 17 Well for a 1721st and then possibly 1680, but that's what's happened to the gold market Being down this much off the high we're down. Well, believe it or not folks We're down $60 if you can believe it this week in gold and there was a big tip off from that We talked about that GDX several times in the newsletter and also on the show on Monday That it was looking so badly and then also silver with the head and shoulders top that we've talked about Many times over and over again. Also by the way, I will be doing a Hold on one second here Someone's asked a question about that and I want to get this up here to let you sit here was that Here was the head and shoulders that we were looking at in the silver at that time What's so interesting about this if you look at the right shoulder there at the 24 75 The high folks was 24 75. I mean You can't get any closer than that which was a 1.618 expansion of the BC leg But the time between the left shoulder and the right shoulder in the head is absolutely perfect to the day So that that that is what was described by Oh Dr. Low in his book the Non-random walk down Wall Street That's how they determined what these patterns were to describe them mathematically in time and in price for them to be Alive patterns and that's what we have someone's asked a question today about the possible war between Russia and Or in the Ukraine and all this other stuff folks. I I don't know in Mikut all had a big run up You know it was sold off a dollar barrel no big deal anymore But the thing that I'd like to mention to you It also relates to another question Did I ever get any inside information that worked and the answer was no the only one that ever came close Was in january of 1991 I was getting gas in my car about five o'clock in the morning there in Pismo beach on my way to the office and there was a car just like mine a little sports car and the It wasn't a Ferrari thing like that. It was a 300z knock Nissan And it was a nice little car. Anyway, the guy next to me had the same color car And exactly the same car and I looked over at and I looked in the back and there was a picture or a rack there about You know a army bag Actually Air Force and then there was his uniform there and it was a layout and he was a full bird colonel And I asked him I said, hey, it looks like you're hitting out big what bifwack And he said, yeah, and I said, well, you got any good inside information for me And he said, yeah, he said don't be short crude oil That was five days before the january new moon of that year 1991 when we hit, uh, saudi, uh, We had a rack and bag dad But that was the only time that I ever got that and of course we that was not any Information at all because you know the market had already factored in what that were or possible war was going to be So that that's really what i'm trying to mention But don't trade what you see not what you think or what you hear You know, look at the chart if it's got a good bar you can tell whether it's going to be, uh Up or down, you know, you know what you're risking. That's really what you're happening We had something very very happening. It's very very important happened yesterday that we had posted on I'm going to start out here by by using the nasdaq as the example because It was just an absolute perfect. We had perfect patterns on absolutely every one of these But we're going to start out with the nasdaq yesterday And I want to continue on with it because we've got some wild volatility folks I mean, we're saying today we have seen the s and p rally 100 You know drop 40. I mean, it's just incredible volatility, which you like to see now. Look at this The high we made yesterday you can see the perfect abcd pattern exactly at the 382 off of the high Of uh, january the 14th now if we should close and we we came down yesterday I'm going to show you what happened last night because extremely important This will prove to you without a shadow of a doubt That there's people out there that knows what the algorithms are and they really pay attention to them Okay, so i'm going to show you this first. You'll see where we did you see how we came down really sharply We we reversed We dropped 700 actually 800 points in the nasdaq in the last hour of trading last night We went down just a tiny bit lower But what's important about that is last night two o'clock in the morning I happened to know because I had my my limit minder set on my computer and it woke me up And uh, I said well better go down and take a look at it and let me show you where we were It's going to be really interesting because uh, you're going to remember this if you remember yesterday I told you about the standard deviations that we follow with the floor trader's handbook There it was yesterday 42 16 In the s and p right so the market goes all the way back up. Okay So that changes that changes the standard deviation on the next swing down because it's based on What probabilities are of where the thing is supposed to be going now look what happened last night Here it is you get up here and take a look at it and the reason why i'm showing you this is because Somebody knows this because you know these algorithmic traders are in there and then you can see We went all the way down there to this one. I believe is the this is the nasdaq. Yep The nasdaq went right down. We took out the lows Of the previous day and look at this we stopped here We went today's high so far just a tad above the 61 percent retracement if we close above this mean tonight Which is at 14 450 not very far away This market could still go higher And and that that's that's what i'm saying because you remember i do a I'm a short-term trader looking at longer term possibilities because i don't want to buy something and risk uh Six or seven thousand dollars like some people do i'd rather go in there two or three times And try to get it without risking very much and a perfect example was the gold am i upset about it? Yeah for other people not for myself You know it's that's not a big deal But uh, you know that's that's what i'm trying to you know enforce this by the way we have a very special guest today None other than norman who calls it to the minute winsky will be talking to us He had a great show the last time he was on and he's going to be on again today here at 9 30 To talk to us about some of these other things. We've got a few other things to talk about Primarily i want to go through some of these things that uh are are pretty important as far as what happened yesterday because it hit so many numbers On these things. It's just amazing people that follow this and and i appreciate the emails you send me about the 382 patterns I got two last night about this one in the gold market You'll see there you go. Look you see there was the 382 in the gold Now if you do the abcd on that boys and girls, guess what you're going to come up with None other than 1792 will be right back with billy ray valentine capricorn You might think that if you want to be successful at trading in the stock market You're going to need a crystal ball after all it's impossible to predict the future, right? 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I posted the chart of the dow e-mini yesterday Showing you the same pattern the same a bcd pattern a little boring But it's a glory to me. He's all I can tell you Anyway, we hit that we've had so many wild swings today in the yesterday and today In the dow Jones e-mini s and p nasdaq and especially nasdaq nasdaq moved yesterday I believe a total of the 14 20. I think it moved over for almost 40 000 dollars up in doubt in the nasdaq yesterday The key today folks is what happens on the close because if we close below one standard deviation Which is I'll give it to you in the s and p terms would be 40 to 30 For excuse me 40 to 12 if we close below 40 to 12 I wouldn't be long stocks At an any situation coming into monday now I don't know if there's anything news going out there All I know is at that point The option traders and along along algorithmic boys are going to be wrong and they'll know they're wrong And you'll see that thing if it closes really badly today, especially, you know with this wild swing hell It could it could close up 700 points in the dow easily easily could do that But the close today is what's really really super important because we've been down here We've tested these we've tried it now Wednesday thursday we're and of course we have tomorrow is being friday Uh, see what you do folks is you take thursday And then you add one day and then you come up with friday. I just calculated that wrong By the way, I'll be doing tommy o bryans show today at To let's see what time is it at one o'clock eastern time And uh, so i'm going to be doing a few things I'm going to be updating a lot of these charts to see where we are as we come into friday because This is going to be a really key day because we've come down here We've had the three-day rally it tried it it bounced back. It's you know doing everything It's can't you know to stay above it, but if it can't and it fails Look out below. That's the main thing that we have to remember and the reason why I say that there's a there's a strong Not a strong possibility, but you know the LA way boys have been calling for this monumental You know end of the world type, uh, you know top where the nasdaq went right up to the uh, number Excuse me the dow jone hit the exact price at 36,488 And uh, the actual high was, uh, 46,488 and they were predicting 36,488.5 So they missed it by 12 ticks, which is pretty good Not pretty good that is 100 right now if that's correct this market's going to break. That's the bottom thing now if the uh, that would be a 3 p.m. Eastern time, sorry bill bill. Thank you very much I keep I keep forgetting that the sun comes up in the east and it goes down in the west and there's a two hour difference Yes, it's two o'clock Try it again larry three o'clock eastern time, uh, that i'll be doing three to four for uh, tomby o' brian today So we'll remind ourselves of that now i covered the Other another one i want to mention to those of you that are across the pond over here You'll notice here that we have been very very bearish the british pound for quite some time Here was an example of one of the charts that one of our friends across the pond We've been short this thing since well way back in at 136 and change, but you notice a 382 rally That we had today and we broke we broke way below the 134 level already today So these markets are really rocking and rolling which we like to see but I appreciate the emails when people listen and it can work with the some of the things I talk about and I understand a lot of people don't do anything and that's okay, too Do your own thing, you know, whatever makes you happy. That's the whole thing What what I do I I do really simple things and it's boring to most people But other people, you know, not so boring and that's the the main thing to remind ourselves of that But let's get on to the charts that we need to cover and here we are folks We got to look at the big daddy rabbit here And that is none other than the us dollar and where is the us dollar at he got it here somewhere Because I spent a lot of time getting that little puppy ready You know, where is it it hits from me it hit from me and it's not hiding from me anymore We have and I put this in this was early this morning folks and we have gone up and we have Rocked and rolled way above this now We have broken out of a double top up here from November And that's a really big thing and I because the dollar Index or not the dollar index, but the euro concentrates 53 percent of the dollar index And the euro is the largest single traded thing in the whole world I mean nothing even comes close. It's a great if you want to trade and not and be bored and just not have You know not have any experience or worrying about anything trade the euro. My gosh, it's just It's boring, but boy it makes money and that's what when I did the Floor traders handbook with john jameson the That's what we focused on because that was the number one thing you know, it's just the perfect You know it hits these numbers like magic, you know So anyway, let's take a look here at this euro here on a long-term weekly basis because You can see where we are now folks and this was this was done a little bit earlier. It's gone lower actually We have we're almost ready to take out the point to see down here at this 117 level once if we take the 117 at once actually 116 when we take 116 out folks You're looking at a potential it has to do that You know, but maybe it's going to be a double bottom because you know, we've seen double bottoms and double tops before But should we take that out? You're looking at a euro. It's going to be down here at about 106. Okay, that means the us dollar is going to be It's going to be probably flirting flirting with 100 easy So and we've been to 161 so 100 doesn't mean a whole lot So this just pay attention to this because this thing could really Really get you know, really really pretty nasty and that's the main thing this level here at 106 was where it was way back in 2000 when my little grandson was born On august the 14th on a beautiful full moon the chase moon Doyle was born that day My daughter being interested in astrology and she named him after the moon and boy What a what a wonderful kid this guy is boy. He had a had a scholarship at stanford Went for a year got straight a's and said this not for me. I don't like college And so he went to the big apple. He said I can make it here and that little son of a god He's made it. I just can't believe it. He's uh he's a actually he's a comedian and He's really good at it and he is doing animated cartoons now for The children's station there in uh, new york and plus he does some comedy routines and Then a little nightclub sometimes but he's doing really well And he's happier than a pig in poop and that's what's really really very important We're going to have norm winsky coming up here at the break He's got some really great stuff as always and we'll be watching it People have asked me why am I not watching the uh, the natural gas? I still am but folks I'm focused very much on the no the british pound the euro and the You know crude oil and gold and and of course the stock indices. Those are those are the ones that I'm watching, you know So that's it. No, I don't I don't feed him any jokes. He feeds jokes to me I I went to any graduated from high school and a big high school there in san lucas bow And he was one of the five acts that they had that night He had a 15 minute skit and I he got a standing ovation. I I don't think I've ever been that proud Well, I I've been that proud with my daughters, of course, but that was really really spectacular For me to see him do that. Well, he's just so self-confident. I mean, it's just It's just a real real joy He you know, he can get up and speak in front of anybody and make a fool of himself and look here I am doing that each day Hey, we'll be right back with take it to the minute winsky. We'll be right back folks Are you having fun trading the markets? 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I think we have norm winsky on the line from Beautiful napal's florida. Are you there norman? Yes, sir larry. Thanks for having me on your show It is our pleasure having you on we enjoyed having you on the last time you had some great info So why don't you light up the board and tell us what you're looking at today my friend? All right. I always like to review what I forecasted. I think it's the responsible thing to do And I was last on your show on the 13th thursday the 13th of january and So i'm going to review these points that I gave out back then for what was coming up AC is after the close. So if you see that whether that means, you know, they are the normal day session I don't think too much of trading at night. The markets are pretty thin, you know Regular day session is only one fourth of a day The planets don't clock out at four or five o'clock. They're 24 seven. So 75 there's 75 just based on random distribution 75 chance that Some planetary event will be happening overnight. That's ac or after the close So we had that night the 13th. We had neptune to the us natal chart us mars What is that and then we take a snapshot of where the planets were when the good old usa was founded on july 4 1776 And so anytime we have that to the us chart We look at us stocks deep bonds and us dollar We also had mercury in the side of aquarius turn retrograde mercury is the main thing mercury is and by the way, I forgot to mention The stocks respond to all these events that all the most the other markets are narrow filters that only respond to certain things Mercury is the greens. Okay the corn and then because it was in the side of aquarius We're also going to throw in copper in the mix Soybeans and wheat that we had another point to the us chart on the night Those were both the night of the 13th then over the 14th weekend We had again Saturn to the us chart and us stocks t bonds dollar that we had mercury A perihelion that's when the mercury on 88 day cycle around the sun and the planets are elliptical that's egg shaped not circular in their motion And so there's a point where the planets are closest to the sun and a point where those panel plants are farthest from the sun Closest is perihelion farthest is an api helium and mercury perihelion there And we were looking for corn gold Soybeans wheat and then we had a full moon over that weekend and we also had Uranus turning direct That's one of my top things when the plants Turn direct or retrograde. It's when they they're that moment there They look relative to the earth. It looks like the planets stop their motion We know they don't physically do that, but it's a roll It's a Einsteinian roll to thing to the earth And it looks like they stop their motion and for a moment and then reverse direction and when the planets Change trend the markets often change trend. So we'll be looking at those charts now Here's the rules of the game if the market were about 75 percent of the time if the market's going down into a indicated Change the trend window it will probably reverse and if it's been going up, you know the same thing We're looking for the extremes if the markets going sideways we do nothing Okay, so we want to see the market either going down or going up Here's corn and horn was going down into their first point here We had three points for the each of the grains and right there you'd be buying right near the lows And then it riled up and then pulled back on our next window And when we had two points over that weekend 14th weekend And then you had a chance to buy again near the lows and then it was up up and away Here's soy beans pretty much the kind of the same thing a little more skewed toward the latter date But we had pulled back here into the 13th And then we overnight into the weekend The the rules are we usually target the opening of the next day when we have the ac After closed so that's why we have the green arrow pointing at the arrow at the opening And there we have the opening here on the 18th Monday the 17th was a holiday You might remember and then we went up up up. So that was good. And here's the wheat Wheat was really great. You were blank bright You tried sorry again try again We're buying near the lows there and then it was a nice little ride up So here's your cattle We had a point over that 14th weekend. You know, you're honest in Tarras the bull Just might have something to do with cattle and this wasn't that terrific I was there kind of a marginal train it rallied up into there and then the next day You did make your high and then you had a significant Drop after that Then we had cotton. Yes every now and then I have a miss Up up up and and then more up Up and that was too much up. And so we marked that as a miss Green is good red is bad yellow is sideways or pass There we go copper coming sharply down You will be buying there right on that short term low and then a nice rally And then silver pulled back into the moon there And then I had a nice rally that gold was going kind of sideways So you couldn't tell which way to go and so all our gold points there were passes Here's the s&p. We didn't pull back into the After closed open at the 14th after close to 13 for it's kind of hard to see there because we've had such large movement in the s&p that it tends to to You know squeeze the scaling so those bars are don't look very big But that's like 50 handles there you could have made on that just that one day And then because it was kind of sideways into the next day's opening Uh, it was confusing whether it was a higher or low So pass pass pass on that one But here's one that's clear in contrast here with the t-bonts rallied right up to right to our point there and then down for a for a low on the next two points for They had a nice high there. You had a nice low there and then it eventually rallied again Here's a dollar. You were just talking about the dollar Larry and down down down into the Our point us point there on the opening of the 14th and up and then but it didn't stop going up Uh on the moon or the our other pointer over the weekend of the 14th. So that's a couple of Misses there. Here's Aussie dollar coming down down down into the moon That was a by the way full moon. Just remind you and then we had a nice bounce up And British pound did not behave nicely. So that's a miss into the moon By the way, just miss the top there, uh, you know for a couple of days, but you know, it's like horseshoes, you know It's only I don't encounter horseshoes All right, we pulling that back now into the Canadian dollar And that's a nice short term below there on the Canadian dollar And you're just talking about the euro and you're one day off that high there that high is higher than that high So that was about a high there is the high of the month And uh, the next day where you could sell against that high and you only had to risk that amount On that trade and that might be something that it sounds like literally might like And here's yen yen again, you could sell against that top there and you had a nice one day dip And so if you add up the green arrows and the red arrows Okay, I'll wait let's take a break and we get back We'll finish adding up those arrows and we'll be right back with norm winsky astral trends Are you in the market for buying or selling real estate in the bay area Including the surrounding st. 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We're chatting with uh Norm winsky of astro trends. You want to continue my friend? How did the arrows turn out? Okay, thanks for asking And we have if you add up the green arrows and the red arrows we had 21 winners four misses out of 25 for 84 percent Okay, let's move on. Now. What's coming up? That's a great question All right, uh the weekend of the 28th coming up Venus is now retrograde, but it's going to stop It's called a station point and turn to go forward which is called direct And we and our venus markets are cattle Because it's in capricorn. It'll be coffee copper cotton sugar and wheat So it's the market. By the way, if you uh, Would like to get a copy of these notes just send me an email And i'll send you a copy of these notes and then you can go listen to the video again and follow along with your own personal notes All right, so we have uh jupiter to the us chart over the weekend of the you of the 28th That's always you round up the usual suspects or us stocks t bonds us dollar And then we have a new moon coming up the night of the 31st early February 1 in the sign of aquarius That's your round up your usual suspects for that Financials grains precious metals and because it's in the sign of aquarius What i have we were throwing in copper as a special And then we have mercury in capricorn mercury is currently retrograding in capricorn And that's going to turn to direct the night of the third And that's because in capricorn. We got coffee and then of course mercury is the grains corn soy beans wheat And then we have a the afternoon of the fourth we have sat in to the us chart for us stocks t bonds and dollar And so that's what's coming up here in the next week or so I've been doing this a little while now. I started uh trading in college You on astrology at first book. I bought was the well the first books I bought a financial astrology I stumbled on the donald bradley stock market prediction. I think that was 1971 or so And then I made enough money that led led to my buying a membership on the chicago board options exchange in 1975 And when I finished school there at good old indiana state in terra hote I would move moved to chicago and I was a chicago floor trader I was on the cboe on the board of trade for about uh off For about 12 years now All right, and I know I've been studying all this stuff. So, you know, if you want to learn more Give me a call here. You're gonna. Here's my contact info here. I'll give you a free class We got letters. I got two letters. I got a swing trading letter day trading letter You I'll teach you and you sign it for astrology course Here we go. Here's my contact in beautiful napal's florida To 39 5 9 4 3 9 3 9 you can email me and winsky and bark With a q that's a q mail.com or and once you can skype and whiskey underscore 1 do you have any questions from the Tigers down there larry. Yes, we we do norm about two questions The first question is what did you pay for your seat in 1971 at the cboe? That was 1975 75. Yeah, sorry and the price was 25 thousand dollars Uh-huh Later on when the exchange is demutualized, you know, they when they moved away from that model and the members uh at the cboe occasion we're able to cash out for if I held on I mean larry, let's face it if somebody told you you were on the cme there And somebody told you they're going to obsolete your job But you're going to get a big payoff if you hold your membership to the end. Yeah, you'd say you're crazy You know, you think of the think of the blacksmith of the late 19th century, you know when cars came in They most of them went out of business, you know, if somebody told them, oh We're going to give you millions of dollars if you stay in the business You they you'd say you're crazy, you know, you know, that's what happened with these exchanges So the cboe members I didn't hold the win. I got out after 12 years. I I got up for over 200 000 dollars eight times my money, you know I thought that was pretty good and I was getting to be an old man there in my mid 30s And so I thought it was time to move on, you know So anyway, the cboe membership you held it to the end was good for about three million dollars, you know Well, I am that I had for 100. Yeah, what's that? The IMMC that I had for 110 when they merged was a 4.2 Large Yeah, there you go. Second second question that we have I was going to tell you a great story. We have time for a story tonight. Sure. We sure do go right ahead All right. So when I I was, uh, you know making I We won't go into the story about my making money today But anyway, I bought it I bought uh Did some trading and one of my college days there and made quite a bit of money And I had a small inheritance added that to that and so Then I decided I would oh and then I started taking finance classes Because I made friends with the local stock brokers and one of them kind of became a friend and mentor it said son You might want to think about becoming a stock broker when you get out of school I didn't have any I didn't know what I was going to do. So I thought that's the stock market thing It's kind of fun, you know, so I started taking I was an econ major and I started taking finance classes And so when I got to my senior year I had the same prof for two finance classes And one was a financial intermediation one was investments. I've been trading options by that point And I told us and the prof says if you want to get a grade in my class You're going to have to write a senior paper. So I went to them to look prof I got you for two classes six hours credit How about if I write a two fold paper on the cboe, you know investment options and investment And the exchange as a financial intermediary Intermediary and he said okay, and so I drove the 200 miles to chicago Got the tour of the exchange and when we got done done with the tour I asked my tour guide. I said How does one become a member here because I was writing a paper plus in the back of my head? I thought oh this might be a career opportunity And I said how do you become a member? She said you should go talk to the chairman of the membership committee I said who's that? That's eddy o'connor. I bet you might have heard eddy. Oh my gosh. Absolutely. I know who he is. Yeah I was just starting on this journey and I didn't know who eddy o'connor was We had we you and I know larry that he's the father of the whole enchilada He dropped up that exchange, you know Yeah, he's a good friend of leo maluma too. Yeah, absolutely There you go at the yeah leo was the the main man at the cme And eddy was one of the top guys there at the border trade He was at the time vice chairman in the late 60s They were getting concerned that the commodity business kind of dried up all the stock market with hot hot hot And they said what can we do and eddy came out of the idea? Let's let's let's have an options exchange and that led to so I go to visit me eddy Meet with eddy and eddy is very nice to me. He says it tells me how you become a member And then he says son Do you have any money? I said, well, I have a small inheritance He said well, you might want to put your name I have from the exchange on this I have a list over here Put your name down there and you could and the currently the memberships are trading at 45,000 the exchange is going to sell 150 for 150 Memberships for 25,000. I heard a kaching in my head for 20,000 I said, where do I sign, you know So I could put my name on the list there. I was number 160 Fibonacci, right? I had a 150 and then they called me a few weeks later and said, uh, you know, are you still interested? We've had some cancellations. Are you still interested? I said, uh, yes Where do I sell my check on that and put me on the path? Wow. Hey, stay with us. We gotta pay a few bills We want to come back and have the folks how they can reach you and I want to there's one other question outstanding, okay Okay, we'll be right back with normal whiskey folks astro trans napal's florida Sharpening your skills as an investor is like getting better at playing a musical instrument You have to practice sure, but you also need excellent instruction from experts at tfnn You'll get advice and guidance from the authority and technical market analysis And it's not just dry tedious text either Tfnn airs live financial content streamed live on tfnn.com and tfnn's youtube channel with tiger tv Live every market day from 8 30 a.m. To 4 p.m. Eastern for free Each host is an experienced trader and gives their take on the market while taking calls and questions live from around the world From the moment the market opens until the closing bell sounds tiger tv has eight different shows with expert hosts to help You make the right moves with your money Watch online at tfnn.com or on tfnn's youtube channel and become the investor you were born to be tfnn educating investors You might think that if you want to be successful at trading in the stock market You're going to need a crystal ball after all it's impossible to predict the future, right? 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JP morgan Uh Hired her as an astrology. He he attributed her by helping him make hundreds of millions of dollars Back when that kind of money would buy something, you know, yeah So hey, here's a real quick note. If you don't mind jumping in here with something Back, it's back to tarot there. Uh, I you were talking with tim boss the other day about the rig of the astrologer My first book astrology book ever bought was uh, oh my god I'm having a senior moment there now Astrology for adults by jome quick Lee was rigging the astrologer That was the first book I bought and that's saying you you lived down by honey creek square there. I think larry, right? Sure did. Yeah, and you probably went in the crockhamber town's bookstore there in the in the shopping center Never learned to read but I heard it was there All right. Well, that's where I found my first astrology book Joan quick Lee's book and then one year later the next summer I stumbled on a half of the grants down at the floor and there was a skinny little pamphlet of a book Line there all by itself. It looked like a lost orphan And it says it had something about the stock market on the cover And I was interested in that I picked that up and and I intuitively thought there must be a way, you know, given the psychology Factor there must be some way to maybe there's some way to link astrology with the stock market And I picked that I picked that up. It was Donald Bradley stock market prediction And and I couldn't believe it. I didn't even know that existed And I said wow, this is great And then I turned back to the inside page first page where they had the price marked on it Had been marked $1 struck out Marked down to 10 cents and that led to my Doing a great treat. Yeah, my family was all the all in the scrap business I heard about copper prices growing up and so I went on a copper mining company And But it was 55 cents a mile. I was 18 months. The copper was a dollar a dollar 40 We're leaving the show. We'll have you on a couple weeks and you can tell some more stories. They love to hear them, okay All right, thanks a lot. Thanks for the great information folks Norm winsky astro trance and we'll see you on the flip side tomorrow Our guest will be Jeff Hughes of alpha insights