 Rydw i'n dweud, ac i chi'n gwybod i'r cyflet hynny yn 2018 dda'rross y Comedia Social S strangerai am yw iawn dechrau i unrhyw ddod o newid y ddarparuedd cyng nghirio i ddaleisio panigeth i ei ddwylo i ddod o'r ddod—aid i chi ddiwydd yn ei ddod o'r broswedd. Diolch i gŷnodd y cwmhir! Dyna unrhyw i ddod i ddod i ddod i ddod i'u ddod i'u ddod i'u wneud, adsiwch yng Nghymru yw Adam's substitute. The first item on the agenda is a decision to take items 4, 5 and 6 in private. We have the agreement to do this all. The agenda item 2 is the proposed draft public services reform, poverty and inequality commission order 2018. It is a consideration of the proposed draft order and we welcome to committee this morning Gillene Cross of the Child Poverty Lead, Paul Tyler, head of social justice strategy, and Colin Brown, senior principal legal officer, ECT division. As members will know, the draft public services reform, poverty and inequality commission Scotland was laid on 8 November and published on the Scottish Parliament website. The 60-day consultation period comes to an end on 23 January. The aim of the order is to expand the functions of the poverty and inequality commission that is to be established via the Child Poverty Act on 1 July 2019. The commission to be established via that act has functions that relate specifically to child poverty and the child poverty targets, so the key aim of the draft order is to expand that remit to cover poverty and inequality more broadly. The order also makes minor changes to the number of commissioners and the experience requirements of the commission as a whole to reflect that new wider remit. The Public Services Reform Scotland Act 2010 requires Scottish ministers to send copies of the draft order and explanatory material to any stakeholders that they think will be impacted by or will have an interest in the proposals. We have contacted a number of organisations that fall into this category, including the Existing Poverty and Inequality Commission, which was established by ministers on 3 July last year, Oxfam Scotland, the Child Poverty Action Group, the Poverty Alliance, the Equality and Human Rights Commission and all the members of the former Ministerial Advisory Group on child poverty. To date, we have received comments from the Existing Commission, from Oxfam Scotland, the Poverty Alliance, the Child Poverty Action Group and the COSLA. Stakeholders have warmly welcomed the draft order. For example, both CPEG and the Poverty Alliance have confirmed that they are satisfied with the draft order and they will be seeking no further changes to it. Members will also recall that Oxfam Scotland were instrumental in developing proposals for a statutory commission. Their consultation response confirms that the draft order fulfills their initial expectations and they welcome the constructive nature in which they have been able to input into its development. A few minor comments and suggestions have been made, and we will consider those further and discuss them with stakeholders before we lay the final draft of the order. To give you an example of that, the Existing Commission has recommended that we amend the order to include direct experience of poverty and inequality as one of the skills criteria that the commission has a hold required to fulfil. We will look to revise that in the next draft of the order to make that explicit. Reminders were issued to put interested parties at the beginning of January, so it is possible that we will receive more consultation responses over the next few days. However, the responses so far have been positive, and we think that that is a result of the extensive engagement and collaboration that took place in advance of the order being published, in which committee members will recall. We would also really like to thank the committee for their role in this work. I am very happy to take any questions that members might have at this stage. Thank you very much, and I thank you for the kind comments for the members of the committee before I was here and their contribution. You mentioned a lot of stakeholders there. Can you tell us a bit more about how the consultation is open to ordinary members of the public and individuals to take part? The Public Service Reform Act requires the draft order to be laid in Parliament and for Scottish ministers to distribute copies to those with an interest in the proposals or those that might be affected. We have fulfilled those requirements. There is not a requirement for a full public consultation. However, the draft order was publicised by the cabinet secretary in the chamber during stage 3 proceedings, and it was published on the Scottish Parliament website. Any members have questions? Good morning, and thank you very much. I think that this is a good piece of work that builds on what has happened in the bill. I am interested in the point that you picked up right at the end about people being part of the commission who have had experience. That may go slightly beyond your limit, but in regard to that, how do we get the appropriate individuals? Have you thought about how we get the appropriate individuals to do this? We do not just end up with the user suspects on this, but we are trying to grasp people's real-life experience. How do we engage with that? I understand your answer to the convener, but probably not the average person who is watching stage 3 of a parliamentary debate, and how do we get beyond that and out to a wider range of communities? Has any thought been given to that? That is a really important question. We will make it explicit in the order that people with direct experience of poverty and inequality should be members of the commission, but we will also work closely with the public appointments team in the Scottish Government to make sure that the appointments process is designed in such a way that it is open to people from all backgrounds and that the person specs are designed in a way that does not put anyone off from applying. We will take advice from stakeholders that have expertise in that area as well. I thank you very much for your attendance at the committee this morning, and we will pause for a few moments to let you leave. We are back in session and can I ask the committee if they want to make any representations to the minister about the proposed draft order? Any comments at all on what we have heard? Everybody is content with progress so far. Our next agenda item is on subordinate legislation. It is a consideration of the universal credit claims and payments Scotland amendments regulation 2017, SSI 2017-436. Members agreed at the meeting on 21 December that no further evidence was required regarding that order, and I ask if members are then content to note the instrument today. Thank you. We can now move into private session.