 Hustle nigga big shit big shit big shit, huh name another podcast like this check it Yeah, yeah, you get a double dose man. Let's go, baby Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, this ain't that regular thing man It's your boy e-ceo and I'm money most by the way and we crazy cunts and every damn day man So hey man, what's up money Moses? Say man that boy be a any time the rapper show if I know you coming baby. Yeah Already we working hey man check it man be help is in the building baby. How you doing? Man, man, I feel a I feel honored for you to be here man Every time the step was coming in the ones who really paid away for Dallas man. I get really excited man Yeah, man, I think you know, I would know something going for you get started. Yeah when y'all buggy era started I was in Louisiana when I moved to Dallas. It's like When I look at y'all now, it was like I wouldn't thought y'all made made big get songs When I see y'all be looking like y'all big niggas gangsta niggas Songs like that, I wouldn't expect y'all to make them something. I ain't a lot of that for what you just said That saved me like a lot of spots. Yeah, I don't I go until like for a show niggas and came up to me I was like, man, we was gonna get you till you walked in and seen you a big old Yeah, but it's just what people understand now with the boogie movement. It really was a That's just what was going on. Yeah, it was really going on everywhere, but we just kind of put music to it Well, let's let's go back a little bit where I want to go back to when you first First of all you from Dallas. What part of Dallas? I grew up right here on I want to be a making elementary Wow down there. Wow. I had moved out to I'm first moved to North Dallas Then I moved to Arlington. So by the time I got in middle school. I was in Arlington. Wow So moving a lot with mom and dad together. Oh, that has split up. That's what made us go back that way. Yeah Yeah, yeah, how did that affect you? Oh Many young kid being a young kid. You know, I'm not really thinking cuz I was still coming back and forth I ain't a lot like 300 best of both worlds. Yeah. Yeah, kind of you know, I'm saying I had the best of both worlds But you know as you get older and you become like a man yourself You do see different things. You know I'm saying but back then when I was on shit I was like, all right. Well, I still get to see my pops, but and you know, I'm still in both of my people's life But you know as you get older you start thinking like well down instead of did this that should have But it didn't it didn't really affect me just made me a better man as I got older I'll say that. Yeah. Yeah, I suppose you do different let your mom and dad did that you wouldn't do I say I'm doing in there, you know, I'm seeing as far as being a father. I got all daughters and I got cousins Yeah, I love Wow I'm like that too. So yeah, so that's dope. That's one reason why you know, I kind of be you don't really hear nothing from me No, I just kind of be ducked off cuz I was raising them. Wow. How many of them five? And you raise all of them. Are you a single parent? Yeah, that's that's oh man official miss Jamaica with a that you want to was crazy about that the people that's like that Why don't ever get help from a like own peers to another guy kids stuff So like they don't get help from people that they need to get help from man one thing I can say about that is I kind of feel like like When I say and when I say that I'm not saying like they moms I didn't a life at all You know I'm saying cuz they moms there. It's just They with me, you know, I chose a duty to take full full time on the home and you know put my little young and it wasn't like it was a It's not like it was a disagreement We kind of agreed on it for the better of the other kids and you know, just the whole situation I was able to be there more and be a better parent at the time, you know, wow Being we got five girls. I feel like for your chance your question I feel like a lot of people For one, they don't kind of put it like a lot of people don't put it out there to say all right I need help or you know, you know look out for me, you know, I'm saying cuz I can be honest with you I have people tell me all the time man. I need a YouTube just offer like when I do post videos of us Yeah, when I post videos of us everybody say man y'all I probably just pure comedy like y'all that's right Y'all you y'all show like good times happen. He's like you need to do YouTube and I'm just like man I don't really know if I want to put my kids like This is my problem like this is my this is my home and I didn't really know if I wanted to just put it out They're like get it man, but I know I know It's almost like it's an opportunity Yeah, it is I think I looked at it more so well I took it out from my experience with with the industry and stuff that I'm kind of like That's where that fatherness come in like man. I want to protect my kids and can't nobody tell you how to do you Understand it well, I've been there two weeks. Yeah, two weeks and congratulations They took the pictures at the hospital the pictures at the hospital. They're on Facebook already like they got They got four hundred and some shares exactly like I'm like Exactly cuz I used to post my daughters every day like I like us I post us every day but it was I started it was the comments that was being made on the pictures and The stuff like just people just saying stuff. You can't have fun It's like it's always something it was either negative or disrespect, you know, I'm saying and I'm just like I Don't do that, but we black men get this straight the most of course people don't see that Nobody say nothing about that, but it was this will really make me say I am done Like y'all gonna get them. Y'all post on I want you to see them. I have posted a picture of my daughter You know, I'm saying in the whole caption. I'm big in my daughter like, you know straight-A student doing good You know, she she come home. She you know, if I need it She does to be a big sister for her sisters, you know, just everything a great big long message And a girl got on there and pointed out Where I brought it Like she was 12 she's 12. You know I'm saying look kids just forming but you pointed that out For everybody like Exactly but the the point of doubt it was stuff like that, you know, I'm saying that people are right on there I know I'm just like, come on, bro. Yeah, y'all Instead of instead of you saying something about that message you want to point out something that's gonna take everybody's attention to that I'm just like at the time. I know how my daughter's is my daughter's innocent, you know, our kids are innocent So I'm just like, I don't I just went in particular mode. Like I'm a I rather I rather cover you up and take all of the bullets Then to put you in the fire, you know, I'm saying, yeah, but at some point at some point they're gonna go anyway Yeah, you got to and that's that's where we are now. How other my 15 14 13 11 and 8 They already that 15 year old she already want to be on there. Exactly. Well, I let them have social media You know, I'm saying cuz it was like I either gotta, you know, I'm not gonna be I'm strict on them I'm still gonna let you know what it is. But I rather you Let me know like I rather know what's going on and you trying to hide it and do it by my bed I get it. So we got like a bun so close and tough that everybody said man, you got daughters I'm like, yeah, but there's a I didn't build my bun close enough to where my daughters is open We talked about everything. Yeah, I'm gonna keep it real with them Talk to them like how we seen her talking, you know, I'm saying so they know like Yeah, okay. Well now, you know, I told them y'all get older y'all from light little boys and stuff Yeah, I might already like them now, but you got to know what's what you gotta know who gonna be real who you know Who just trying to get to you all of it like yeah, but you got to understand that too Like you can always tell never they're not gonna ask you They don't know until they actually get into that. So so I started doing stuff like this cuz you know, I'm I'm a I'm a funny person They're on the phone somebody who don't follow it. Let me see it. Give me the phone. I do something money. I'm saying gonna follow it What's up? What's up? I can tell you how you if you I could tell how you talk to somebody daddy. Yeah, you'll get nervous Yeah, like you get nervous you get nervous you cool. It's like I cool It's all about how you definitely first words if I say what's up and you be like, what's up? Oh, you say how you doing sir? Oh my god. Okay, you but you're respectful, but if you like, what's up? I'm like shit. What's up, man? What you what you want, bro? What you doing? Like I so what's your intentions? That's just my friend. Okay, cool. You know I'm saying I wouldn't even ask a question I wouldn't ask a question. Yeah, I say somebody lying. I'm gonna go off. I was a question But see what I do is I do that and then I give him the phone back left finish talking They want to get out the phone. I tell him a look he gone blue And they gonna be like they like y'all know just talking about didn't they do it There's like this man's boy did what you said. I'll say y'all know Yeah, I've been that person I tell my dogs all the time keep it 100 with me because there's nothing you can get past That I ain't already done. I didn't do it. I was like Believe me and I got Catch them before they even get to the steps of doing it. Then that's when I saw I'm like, man Yeah, I catch I every time if whatever did you try to do I catch it before you can try to do it That's when they started to realize like I commend you for being a parent like that. That's dope, man Like I never would have you just drive one on me like I didn't know you. Yeah, it's the same mother Three. I got three Okay, yeah, I got three baby mama's I get it. Yeah, I get it Yeah, I can say this. I only had one child Outside like after I started doing music really. Yes. I'm our kids before I started. Oh, so that's crazy So when you when you did that kind of inspire you to go harder? Uh I know I ain't gonna even say it did because back then I was younger. So my mom wouldn't know I was just like, you know, so make some shape. I was gonna be a good daddy regardless. Yeah, yeah, of course You know, I'm saying that's what I knew there for sure. Yeah, but what I can't say is I saw What it what it did made me do was as far as appearance it made me It made me change certain things about my music and stuff that I wanted to put out and do Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that I could Wrap about and say I kind of I kind of I hold myself away from doing it because My daughter's of course, you know, I'm sorry Okay, so let's let's let's go into the Is it the song that that everybody know? Yeah, Ricky Bobby the Ricky Bobby Let's go into how this all happened, you know I want to I want to I want to I want to understand How and what were you the first with the boogie movement or were you the second or was it already happening or I think it was It was it was starting. Okay, because it was who else was it? I think it was fat pimp the other day I mean to cut you out. Was it fat pimp? I don't know who I was in Louisiana I can't Fat pimp say that he yeah, he did the boogie He was in it with that a rag daddy. Yeah. Yeah. Was that first or was that? Yeah, that was before my song. Okay. Uh, so you had like the rag daddy was starting you had uh Little wheeled doggie. Yeah, my doggie was moving. Uh That's a lot of you had a lot of it was like it was runny had he was out yet No, la runny wasn't that shit. Okay. It was uh la runny was like bone home girl Yeah, but all that came bone came after me. All right, everybody kind of blew up at the same time Yeah, it's like everybody's music kind of dropped at the same time. They probably was months before You know, I'm saying probably had only been like a few months before You started hearing like that you heard other music because you had like watching me do this Yeah, yeah, you know, you had that that was the that's the beginning of the boogie movement right there Then everybody just kind of started going after that you had like cloud records And a little piece and you know, I'm saying triple D new nino and star boy star You had them that kind of started the movement and then from nurse just like We all kind of just dropped at the same time everybody just dropped because at one point in time you probably had uh 15 df dub artists That that was in the club like rotating the club and that they Booking us to come who was pushing them like that cloud records doing that pushing it. So that was uh Who was pushing this this music like that? It was the DJs. They were just pushing it spinning the DJs. I ain't know why you What studio did you record in? I? I recorded it just do this white dude named steve paul. He was writing steve paul. Okay And steve paul was when I say look like nerdy dude Like you probably think man, isn't he ain't finna miss my stuff, right? And I'm gonna say I had the best sound coming out of her. Okay, so I was mixing it master the Mars Who how did you get that beat who produced it? Uh young star young star produced it. Were you signed to anybody or no? No, when we when we first independent. Yeah, I was independent my whole career So what about now like when do royalties or anything come behind the music? Yeah? Yeah, I still get paid off that That's what I thought. So, yeah, I still get paid off of it. So Um, how do you get paid off of let's talk about that. Okay the way you get paid off of a lot of people Got understand that they think okay. Well, I'll drop a song. I'm supposed to get book shows now That take a while everything take a while. Okay, you get your royalty checks from streams. Okay. Well, This was the streaming play. Yeah, but well, this is where it won the book. It was a pre the streaming area There was pre streaming area here. So you still have CDs and stuff uh We we it was youtube that was that was the start of it you the start of youtube Anytime is on the radio. So anytime I play on the radio In a lot of times you got to get over 100 speeds before you even start getting seeing some type of chick. Yeah, so uh radio even if you heard in elevators, you know restaurants, whatever like that and they didn't know how to Connect to the club yet, but they do now You know I'm saying you get people don't know you can get paid from there. How? because uh DJs DJs now use serato Okay, so serato if a DJ Has their stuff like set up the correct way It'll monitor, you know, what's being played and really yeah You know to detect and show what's being played. I never knew that Yeah, it's so many ways for people to like it's so many ways to like make money. Yeah, you probably told a lot of people They didn't even know exactly, you know, because I didn't know that Then they have people like they have people that go to the clubs just to detect Really? Yeah, what songs it's playing like, okay. Well, we heard this song this song is song so all right That's been played this many times this minute. You know what I'm saying like that Like it's it's a lot. That's why when I go places I'm gonna say what's up to everybody because you don't even know who in you know what I'm saying Yeah, you're right. Well you shaking go back to when you first started Do the Ricky Bobby and you wrote that song, right? and you had a producer that you used and so When you wrote it what you already had wrote songs before I was in a group that was my first solo song I ever did by myself Okay, okay. So, you know, everybody when you young you rapping with your partners and stuff like that That's what I did And I had said I said the hook to Ricky Bobby in my verse and everybody's like, damn, what's the Ricky Bobby? I'm like, I don't know Do the Ricky Bobby just one move at first And I only came up with only said it because I had to watch just watch taladega nights And it was the first movie that made me like laugh out loud. Yeah, I was I'm a person I laugh to myself like, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah But that was a movie. So I was laughing. Yeah, I said funny. I get stupid stupid funny. So I just said in the verse do the Ricky Bobby stop pose for the frame and I dip and we all do the same thing So then everybody like then that's that's dope. I had a partner for work. I used to go record at his house Me like man, bro, you need to go on like do it He said see I'm tell you don't start with the beat up. He kind of orchestrated it. Like, yeah, hey So I'm like bad. I had a job. I took out work got off work came recording my verse Took it to uh my baby mama. My manager was my baby mama daddy I knew he had I knew he was in the mix. So like the industry a little bit We're not the industry but like the clubs. I knew he knew DJ a certain DJ So I took it on just to see what he thought. What you think about this? And uh, I remembered he take it to the car like when I first gave it to me watching tv, you know, I'm paying me no attention So I'm like, I'll see that's that's how you already fuck. I'm fucked. Fuck now, you know Me go. He's kind of nervous about it. You like, uh, yeah, because I this is my first time like recording a song by myself Like I ain't no nobody's gonna think about it. So he go to the car. He listened to it He stopped it. I said, I cut it off too fast You know, he ain't he ain't gonna like it because I'm listening through I'm sending the other room. You can hear it through the guards So I'm like, man, he ain't like it cut it off too fast came back on I said, okay. All right. He listened to the little more got to the uh Y'all passed the first verse cut it off again I said, I ain't messing with it. He coming out. He's like, this you I said, yeah, that's me. He said you wrote this. So yeah, I wrote every word He said you made the beat. I said, nah, I'm a homeboy made the beat. He said so Your partner made this beat. Nobody else like y'all didn't get it off of nothing. I said, no, he made that beat He said, all right This ain't nothing else I'm like, man, you know, what that mean Next day call He said, so you this is your song You did all this I said, yeah, he said, all right. I'm gonna give it to G rock and uh I'm gonna see what G rocks like. I remember G rock. Yeah, so G rock, uh, he called me that was on a win that was on a Wednesday He called me that Thursday. He said hey on sunday. You're gonna perform in rhythm city rhythm city At the time was The top club, you know what I'm saying? This club I heard so I'm like I'm gonna perform in rhythm city Was that nervous man. I was super nervous. I'm talking about Didn't know what to do like man. These people from the boomy like man. I don't know what's going on but At the time too, he had Lil will performing at night. He had uh, damn D He had uh That you just love me. Yeah, that's when his song was like it was a hidden. It was a hidden, you know what I'm saying? So he had he had him little wheels little wheel stuff was moving with the my dougie uh Trap squad cartel. Remember them? Love my mom. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Had them like uh had the uh traps the uh The get it big All these people there performing. Yeah, and he like you're gonna go right before uh, damn D because damn D was closing it out So I'm like, damn, you gonna put me on before And even with the biggest song I ain't get it. I ain't get it at all I went out there perform Like man, this crowd is not fined. They want to see damn D. They know these other people. They don't know me Yeah, shit. I thought when I started performing the song. I just seen how they started moving to it. I love you like yeah Then from their own shit, it's just Kept going kept going it moved so fast that I was like Yeah, that that was in july by august the song was on earlier. Wow. So did it go go? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's still like to this day Like I'm still getting streams off of it and I ain't even I ain't did no promotion or no Last time you perform uh saturday saturday and san Antonio. Oh, yeah, you it went down. So you get a booking show So you still do the music still full time now, um I should do it, but I don't I ain't been like recording and nothing like that I kind of been uh, uh, I've been parenting but at the same time too. I kind of I lost uh, I lost the fun In it and I didn't want to be I'm not personal like wasting nobody time Yeah, you know I'm saying so I'm not gonna tell you uh Let's go to the studio and let's work If I know I'm not finna go in here and give you my all. Uh-huh, you know, I'm saying I ain't gonna waste nobody time. So yeah, we I ain't been in the studio and recording none of that because I know I know mentally. I wasn't there Yeah, yeah, no, I get it. I get it. I get it gotta be it gotta be it definitely gotta be in you not on you Yeah, because it went in how I knew that I started when I was recording songs. I'm like, I'm saying the same shit over and over Yeah, like I'm just saying it in different ways Like no, I don't like that. So did you do a whole album on that? Okay, did you have any features on there? Uh, I had local futures Like I ain't had no I had the one big artist. I had I had Deron Jones from 112 Okay, you know, uh I had did a I had did a distribution deal. Okay. You know distribution deal is that's like We doing that ourselves now tune core. Yeah, you know, I'm saying so Uh They was saying they I we let them choose a song The song they went with was like that song But it was a I was the first rapper artist on the gospel distribution. Wow. That's dope. You know, I'm saying I thought they too Like that's dope. You know, they go because they want to push out But did they hold you back? It messed me up because they don't know they know gospel. Okay. They don't know hip hop But so everything literally that's why I say I'm an independent artist because I am independent. Yeah, everything I done was me me and my manager like Going everywhere pushing doing what we're supposed to do But we let them choose the song that and uh, I feel like they they're ruined everything because They were there was an r&b song No one came putting the r&b song out during uh, you know Rap time. Yeah when they want your club music. Yeah, so instead of that, we should have went with the club song Yeah, I feel like that's what messed me up But then I started to pick it back up like being consistent. How y'all say yeah, y'all drop every day Yeah, that's what I started doing. I started to shoot. I'll shoot in the video. I'll drop in the video every week What that's dope. Yeah, like I started seeing something from yeah Yeah, I started when I said I was like when I stopped rapping I had four songs on already out here You know, I'm saying four songs I had three of my own songs and then I had a freestyle And that's that came from Being consistent dropping the video every Sunday, you know dropping the dropping something every time I drop a freestyle or song I'm shooting a video to it Shoot the video and put it out. Hey, do you think it's easy going radio now for what was it back then? uh back then it was easier because You had more people that was in the streets. You had more dj's that was in tune that was like You know, they can they can vouch for it and say hey now this song hot in the club And it was easier because this what I used to do. I'm going to put y'all on my formula. I got my music out there The best way to to get something popping is to For it come from people you don't know, you know, I'm saying because like They see y'all together So if you come and say boss talk one-on-one is the hardest thing out Then I don't believe anybody on this too. Yeah, because I don't think y'all you just vouching for it because that's your people But if if I I see him and I don't know, you know that he know y'all he like man Boss talk one-on-one. That's what's up I'm like, man. What's that? I'm gonna I'm gonna go look at it. I'm gonna be like then that is though Okay, but far out. I don't know he with y'all he heard every day You he really promoting for y'all and I don't know that That's the best way to get consumers. You know, I'm saying I'm thinking people to pay attention So what we used to do was If I have when I knew who was on the radio, I learned everybody that was on the radio I can hear him by their voice. I know who's who One day the new program director was on the radio filling in for somebody I'm like, hey, that's the program director I'll start texting people. I'm like, hey call up there and say I'll tell one girl call up there and say, hey, man, I heard this song. I don't know. I don't know It sound like be him, but I don't know if it's him and then go like this Oh, go to work. Go to work. Go to work something like that You can't play that song for me. You're like, all right, big they got to write down anytime somebody call in That's like something so boom. That's one girl 15 minutes later. I have a dude calling That call up there and say, hey Y'all got some song that say go to work go to work go to work I've been hearing it in the club. I was hearing it. I just left the club You know, that's playing that song in there. Can y'all play that song for me? Boom, then I had somebody call and say, hey, I heard the DJ Tell my behem new song. Can y'all play that for me? Like You keep on it. Yeah, let's keep putting in here. I had six people call. Yeah He had six people call and say different things each time like they didn't know When I say, uh, an hour later the DJ that was there with him chasing and said, hey He just told me play a new song I got you the DJ made it seem like he was the one did it. I'm not gonna tell him Hey, I did that No, man. Thank you, bro. I got you anything you need from me. Let me know I'm gonna do it because I want you to feel like you did that that means you're gonna push it even harder But I know I'm the one that did it But I'm still gonna give you the credit. Awesome. I like that. I'm just awesome I'm gonna give you the credit for it They did this, you know 30 minutes later and playing it on the radio It was in rotation. Mix your all of it. Wow. I hadn't even put the song in the club yet. So you did it yourself Yeah, it's just stuff like that that you got a Artist got to learn to do You know more than just artists people in general people in general you got to learn how to get How to maneuver Yeah, I like that man I like the way that you did that and I think that the people that's listening should take heed to that You know what I mean like I'm gonna use it. Yeah And that's our I'm not no artist. I'm not gonna hold no game from nobody You know I'm saying it's plenty of artists and people that Come up uh might see me on something and reach out and be like, hey, bro Man what I need to do for this isn't in there and I'll tell them I do this do that do this like I can't I can't tell you that it's gonna blow you up But that's how I can tell you this is just a start You know I'm saying this will help you get in the right doors How let this person go get it that person? I don't mind doing that. You know I'm saying I do that Free your charge. I don't tell nobody. Hey, give me some money. We'll pay me I just do it because I know how I was being that artist trying to come up and try and make something say That's good for you too because people look at you like hey, he didn't try with nothing But he gave me a game. I'm gonna try to play this game one day. Yeah, but that's what I was saying earlier When we were talking about You know when you when you feel stand-up dude and you're doing something I know they ain't gonna say no But that they ain't gonna say no, but they act like When you reach out to him for something or something that they don't respond Or they don't say nothing. I haven't seen that. Yeah, I'm cool with it. It motivates you Yeah, of course. It gives you more tougher schemes. Exactly. And it makes you strong. Exactly. It makes you go harder too Yeah, I know like right now. I'm like if I if I want to if I I can go put some music out and I know what to do to get myself going even right now I can do that when I do it. It's trouble for you because I don't forget Well, at least you got a you got a name and stuff and and but what about those people who don't have a name and who out here They put money up. They're acting like they got it on instagram But then you look at the streams a lot of fake views a lot of a lot of fake Fake subscribers. Yeah fake. So are these people really making money in in in in the music like that So it's a lot of times because I've had people on here and I asked man Are you making money in a video look like they got it? But then they really Not getting it from the music. No, you're not making money from music Doing that just be on honey like Because you got thinking about it. You're getting buying fake views and You know, you got fake followers who who's seeing or something about who looking at it Yeah, who really looking at how can you go book a show? You can't You know nobody know you like that. Yeah, I used to say that all the time With the boogie movement I when we when when stuff was hot You know when something hot Especially from out here because I'm gonna tell you when something hot it's gonna they're gonna get booked in tola You're gonna see them do the east of that color the chitlin circuit You're gonna see them do uh, that's great. I just heard We keep saying that I know everybody. No, no, I heard the outside of this place. No, no, no We have heard that That is a main thing, right? Yeah, you heard that probably four times today Yeah, so the chitlin circuit you're gonna get booked in east texas do the toddlers and all of that Then when it grows some more you're gonna go to Louisiana. You know, I'm saying you're gonna be in streetport You're gonna be in my role. You're gonna be like it's gonna that's where you're gonna be Then you get booked in you'll see you in oklahoma stuff like that. It's like it spreads you out It spreads you out. That's how you know when When somebody really moving when somebody's stuff really popping you're gonna see them That's that's that's where they shows is being posted it All right, you're saying that show mo through is going he's still going to texas first Are you stuck on a ticket? All in was like everybody everybody at that time. That's how that's how I stayed up on them. Like, okay, they move in there You know, okay, they stuff going there because That's where you go. I'm like, shoot. I love the jewelry and money and I let That's cool. I know you're getting money But your music ain't catching people yet because I don't see you moving it So then when I started seeing them go to each texas, I'm like, all right, they can start moving now. That's what happened They see, you know, you just see it they start they they go on everywhere they go everywhere that I'm saying they did Why just see it? Because that's how I go from out here because that's the surrounding cities And the crazy thing is houston is like the last one Wow, because houston houston they go they hear you We know y'all we know y'all pumping out there, but When you come out here, you this is your problem Because we know we can take you to the next level but now Dallas is a bigger market. You know what I'm saying? People don't know that Dallas is a bigger market Everybody's out here. There's so many celebrities that do live out here That you don't know But they don't know that they live out here, but they are here. So why you think when You see stuff now like look at tiktok Look at the the thing what they doing everything that they doing is what we were doing in the boogie movement They they mimicking the words that you seen in the song Well, that's what all of them was doing on them youtube You know now that's a worldwide thing that everybody do They started right here. They weren't doing that before that started right here You listen to the sound of the music and all that come from her. You that's why you see so many artists be like Man, they took my song Because they probably heard your song right here They probably heard it and then taking that to do something else, but not only that You got producers. You got writers. That's all out here live out here Writing for these people and they giving them the sound They giving them the sound just like little runny little runny mother of he he wrote like shout out a little runny Yeah, shout him. He he wrote like Iggy Iggy's new take. Yeah, he was here You know I'm saying like it's stuff like that that people don't understand that It's more than just any road from a lot or two. Mm-hmm. It's more than just being an artist Like there's so many other things you can tap into and still Be rich and make money out here. You know just off the industry because it's here. It's always been here What okay, so be him After the after that song with that song do you feel like it was such a big hit that it was hard to come back from it? Uh, I feel like it was only hard because I didn't know I didn't know what to do. Like I said, I was uh Me and my manager both was fresh You know, I'm saying who was your manager? It was ricky booger. Yeah, I talked to him. Yeah, ricky. He was just on the show He got breakfast. Did you know that? No, I ain't know that he just left. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah ricky came on. Uh matter of fact, his artists as well came on. Yeah, he got a new artist. He named Austin grand Yeah, yeah, but he mentioned you he did mention you know that because we We learned together. He's super dope, too. Yeah, he cool. He's heart right. Yeah Everything everything we learned together. You know, I'm saying like I feel like The only reason why we disconnected was because at the time he had uh, he got into other things He's an entrepreneur. So you know, he was doing the other clubs everything and I'm just like, hey I got that pattern made focus, right? Yeah, and I was telling him like, hey, man, it's some this this This new wave that's coming It ain't like we think it ain't the uh radio I let cuz we was going So right now I'm like, no, this new wave is this internet. Yeah, you need a marketing person. You need a branding person You know, he's like, no, no, you don't need that. Yeah, it's gonna come right now You've seen the way. Yeah, yeah, I study. I'm gonna flip. Yeah, I'm a person. I study. I study everything So I seen I said man, this shit coming. Soldier boy made that whole get right. But see soldier boy did it before The boogie movement. It was just it was you know, who it was that kind of put that wave in It was the the I call them the the backpack scene the underground like the The the kinder Lamar's in the loop a fiasco's and all of them, you know, the you know, the cool kids all of that Chance rap. Yeah, but this before him that but that was the that that style of kids and genre For real Yeah, that's who made it go that way because that's what they was doing. That was on the internet. Lil Wayne No, Lil Wayne was still Lil Wayne was big. So Anything he did was gonna go everywhere. But I'm talking about as far as How people was finding new music and finding these new artists. They was all on the internet. Yeah, you know, I'm saying doing these blogs They was doing them blogs and all of that. So That's what you would see That's that's what you would see. That's what that's how that's how the world was going And I was like, man, that's this is going to be the new wave And when I say a year later everything just Concerts So did you ever have beef with anybody when they come down to like traveling? Yeah, like yeah, yeah, like y'all went on a concert together and they came out You know people like like j cruz was talking about how he brought um Gz out and he he called him lil gz because he was bringing out lil Wayne and lil gz at the same time And he mixed it up and he said man, he felt bad after that every time he seen gz because he knew he messed up his moment But he say, uh, they they booed him out to say get out of here. You don't know lil gz I was just saying what's the craziest thing that happened to you when you came out? Uh, the craziest thing was like having people Like that that's that's Stalker stuff. Really? You had one you had a few stalkers. Yeah, yeah, that fact in arkansas Really? I had a store in arkansas and This lady called every hotel till she found out where I was and I just saw having to be leaving for the girl to the show And they was like, hey this person is on the phone saying they y'all right And what uh, I told him man. I'm like, I need to see what that is and he get on the phone and the lady like I'm supposed to come pick y'all up and Take you out there like He's like nah We supposed to take ourselves, you know, we ain't got nothing about that. What is she say? But she's just like hung with the phone real quick. Wow. And then that's when uh The lady that I get the first day said got like email and was like They said that this person's been calling every hotel in the city looking for you They like you be him. So yeah So that's what I'm like. I don't know. This is crazy. He's talking. Yeah, but beast Yeah Everything She probably out in the crowd she loved you man. Hey, yeah, you had a secret admirers to see yourself That's weird, right? You didn't even have to you have to deal with that. I'm man. I'm a cool person Yeah, I'm saying if you be that show that you can love in the game and you ain't got to be with all that stuff If you be for me, it's because you either one you don't know me For two, you might don't like that. I probably was dealing with somebody that you probably like. Yeah, you know, I'm saying Or you just, you know, you just it's a jealousy thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but man, I'm cool like super dope. Yeah I'm the part when we was on the road I don't everybody cracking up. Yeah, I'm having fun for the laugh. We're gonna joke. Yeah. Yeah I don't drink. So when the promoter like hey, I got a session in the bottle I'm like, cool. Hey Y'all want this y'all want some of this? Y'all coming to this vip with me? Y'all can drink this? I don't drink. We have we have a big dude. We have you didn't play no football? No Everybody ask you that. Yeah. Why I ain't uh at the time About that music easy. Oh, yeah. I swear hard and easy and See cuz they double double the morning and night practices. He's like two a day Hell no, but see when I'm like, man, I ain't finna wasn't I Yeah, I'm trying to go. I'm trying to walk through the school and be fresh and I ain't finna do that because when I ain't finna go in her shower with all you need is top three artists of all time, right? My top three artists you already been thinking about it. I know you was sitting back peeping game You like another year, but oh you seen it on the when you watched the show I always ask but my just this just all in general my top three artists lb james brown That's dope. No more. I feel like he he birthed, you know, they sold your pop. Oh, yeah What about number two number two? I'm gonna go with uh See that's kind of hard. I'm gonna do like a five, but Number two Number two. I'm gonna have to say like two part because you know, that's all my mama grew up That's all I heard and I like to miss it. All right. He always had a essence. Yeah, you know, what about number three? Number three, I'm gonna have to go with Kanye. Kanye dope. I like that Oh, I was I just watched the interview with him saying something about why he don't like black people I'll do the same shit too. Oh, okay. Yeah, I just wanted today. That shit happened like years ago Yeah, I just watched it. I was talking about that one way he was sitting down and he was like, you know I'm really trying to do this for y'all, which I said it going against me Yeah, like I understand why he did it like he anything keep going through that culture Like he said he see a different trying to change but I don't want to change it because I don't think he That's why he pulled away. I do the same shit. I'm trying to help. You know, you're not trying to help me No, I'm pulling away from you. Then you get mad cause I pulled away. Yeah, like that's just people in general in the way That's how they feel And the way I look at like when it comes to Kanye A reason why I like his artistry, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna gotta agree the same on your on your on your your views. Yeah I don't gotta agree with your views, but your your artistry you dope Yeah, as long as you get like as long as you understand something about the person Like if you understand somebody you can get them. Exactly. And that's how it's supposed to be. That's supposed to be, you know Like they tell me now The reason the way you gang fans is who you connect with Yeah, you're right about that who you connect with And it's it's it's all about the vibes too. Like yeah, I have vibes like if your vibes ain't right If you got some vibes that ain't right that you walk in the room and you just you just feel that vibe with you You're gonna figure out where it's coming from. Yeah. Don't look at that like now. I don't want to go that way Yeah, for so you I'm I'm big on that me too. I don't cuz my other two are too bad. Yeah Me I'm say I don't do it with no negative none of that No, me not no mode to like once I like once I my girl got pregnant It's like it's sort of slowing me and I start to realize and listen about stuff Maybe like man, I gotta stop doing this stop doing that. But it's like as soon as I stop doing stuff I started getting trouble That you got but you can't look at it like that because I used to think I know what I know how I see I see it as where it's slowing me down for something That's how I look at it. But I don't want too much to be like every every everything is a lesson. Yeah If you don't learn from your mistakes, then you're gonna do it again Exactly and I'm a person I take a negative and look at the positive in that negative Well, you you you be you're not you don't be getting in trouble and stuff. Do you? No, he do See, you know what I'm saying? No, no, so so you know, he always call me and say he don't be doing that We're doing that room and I always get that call. So he lying No, he's a liar. Now. I'll be chilling. That's my co-host. I'll be chilling Talk to you about he's getting trouble. He's the most coolest cat to get in trouble all the time. I used to get in trouble I ain't gonna lie Honesty is the best way of anything. Yeah being real being one hundred. I used to get in trouble He ain't gonna be honest because he gonna say when he getting trouble man. I wouldn't even doing that That's denied. Exactly. Yeah, you gotta He ain't gonna he's gonna like they was wrong. Yeah, I tell you I ain't a lot when I learned When I learned they're telling the truth It's gonna get you way far in life. I know I stop lying about stuff You're gonna you're gonna get taken to leave it You know what I'm saying? I know don't take it to leave it outside of yourself Who the dopest rapper to ever come through Dallas, Texas? I mean come from Dallas from uh Honestly, I I say that I don't know Y'all probably heard him this little dude named Tahiris Yeah, I think I have heard him man Tahiris to me. You think he the dopest? Yeah better than Jason Lyric Ah, yeah, wow Jason Lyric dope too. Don't get me wrong. He's dope But with Tyre is more than just lyrics. Okay. I'm saying he's he's a he's not in Dallas right now. Is he? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I need to get him on the show. I hit him up He's he's talented. You know I'm saying in all specs. He make he make beats. Oh, you know, he make beats Yeah, he sings he uh I don't know if Jason sing. Did he say he sing? A little bit, yeah Yeah, but like he's just he's overall talented. I've seen this I've seen this boy Do I'm gonna call him a boy a man. I seen this man do One song where he's rapping in three different people Go by himself. Yeah, you know, I'm saying and then I seen him turn around and do A hype song like get get lit song and then I seen him do a positive song You know I'm saying like I just seen him do so many different type of Songs and they all are like Interesting they all gonna keep it keep your interest. Yeah, they're gonna catch up. Yeah, they're gonna catch your ear It's gonna listen. You're gonna listen. So That's why I always I say him, you know, I'm saying Because it's different. It's not what you don't think like you could see him. We're gonna see him and be like All right, you finna talk about drugs and trap and all of that But then when you hear him, it's like, whoa They're the best ones to listen to though. Yeah, for sure The one that's talking positive the one that look gangsta but talk positive Yeah, because it's a big tail. I'm from Oak Cliff But this is the part of oak cliff That you know, I'm still rapping about what's going on in oak cliff, but I'm gonna do it like this To where the white people gonna listen to it You know, it's gonna be like he I think he done sung at the national anthem and a few NBA uh On a few NBA little things. Wow, you know what I'm saying? So It's just I think that's dope. Yeah, I like I like artistry. I like people like and that don't get me wrong I ain't saying that nobody else ain't got the artistry But he's doing it on caught my attention to where I'm like At he ain't missed in my eyes. He ain't missed on anything when a guy bringing a record out these days And I know you say you you don't really mess with it like you used to What do you think he has to do to be successful? Uh, you gotta you gotta build your fan base That's that's the you can be successful. How do you do that? Yeah, you you build your fan base by you deal with like most three is a perfect example most three has everybody like Following him and loving him because of what he was rapping about his struggle You got to connect with your people Like if you know that you've never You've never Trapped you ain't never saw no drugs. You shouldn't be rapping about that Because you should rap about what what you know What what you've been through what you're going through because that's gonna touch everybody that's been through there That's the more that's what you're gonna have more knowledge on that's what you're gonna have more feelings and pain into your music That's gonna touch the people that's going through there. That's gonna build your fan base If you went to fashion and clothes, then that's what you need to post fashion clothes And then you need that's what you do music then you rap about that. That's gonna grab the people who that's what help yellow What i'm trapping design? Yeah, you know what i'm saying? He like to work clothes to this day He's still what i'm saying design and clothes and that's what every that's what made everybody because they like Yeah, nigga i'm trapping in the designer too. Yeah, so that's what makes them. You know i'm saying That's that's just how it goes. You gotta you gotta cater to what you know Don't try to be something that you not and i feel like that's where a lot of people miss it because they not uh They're not being themselves. I get it. You know what i'm saying? It makes sense. There's a lot of people like that It makes sense. So, so Um, yeah, how can how can people reach be help if they want to try to book him and uh, you know get me on instagram What's your instagram be underscore him? Uh, i'm still on facebook be dash help spell out the dash uh That's that's really what i'm on. Okay. Um, if it was and you probably kind of answered this already But if you could talk to your younger self about when you was uh When you first started this ricky bobby uh whole situation, what would you tell yourself don't be gullible? Yeah, pay attention like that with klc klc pay attention to the paperwork. Yeah for so like I was just gullible to just people. You know what i mean? I want to help everybody. That's my problem That's my problem. Yeah. I'm not a big heart. Yeah, so I try to help everybody even if i'm not getting nothing Getting nothing out of it. Mm-hmm. And in this industry, you really can't do that Okay, you know i'm saying because people will use you As a step to get to where I need but then when I get there, it's like, uh, who you did what? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my bad. Wow. You know what i'm saying? I'm sorry. That's dope man. Um the fact that um Yeah, yeah, you've said don't be be stronger. Don't be so gullible. Yeah You gotta know at the end of the day, it's business. Yeah regardless, you know what i'm saying? Today when you're doing something, it's business degree you you'll stand up guy Like I said, thank you have your daughters like that. Yeah to be a single parent It's more to you than what people even know now for so and I like that You know, that's the part of this show where somebody else might have some kids out there And they don't know that that they think they by themselves I know a guy to come here and shop. Yeah have his daughters. And you know, I forgot three daughters. Yeah, that's always Anytime that's big up to you man. Like mark me about that. Yeah, big up to you for for stepping up to play We do have some black fathers out here Oh, no, they're No, but he just Yeah Now but i'm saying big up to you for stepping up to the plate as a father. That's okay Yeah, it's okay. You know a lot of people need to hear that a lot of times women You know when I got my daughter, you know Sometimes a woman will feel like she failed when you take the child. Yeah, they they feel that like damn, you know I failed that child, but that's not that's not what it is. No sometimes Yeah, and that's what I had to because I'm not gonna lie. I had that problem That's what started drama at first with my baby momma's They felt like that and I had to explain to them like now that's not what it is. It's just more so You know sometimes I might see something better than you do At the time and this and this is a team we still a team regardless Because I still need your help too. I still need you to do your part. Yeah, like it's just right now It's better right here. You know I'm saying that on that don't take from you as a parent or nothing like that Because you still can you still do your thing too. Yeah, I mean, you know Being that you got off you got five daughters. I ain't gonna let you make it I'm gonna go ask you this question man. Um, what do you think about Bill Cosby getting out? Um I'm gonna say this. I don't like I ain't supporting none of that at all. Especially when it comes to women But at the same time too, I'm like It's so easy to blame somebody for something And you know, it's so easy to say you did this And you don't know if it's true or not. So I kind of just she's gonna take the blame It's only if you take it on I can tell you I could ask you something even more further. R. Kelly your daughter's 15. Yeah Could he be with your daughter right now? Why why why I think it's different I'm really asking this. I know what you're gonna say because you're not feeling let it happen You're gonna be too protectable. But that the R. Kelly thing I kind of feel like it's like this I feel like what he was doing was pimping Okay being 100 that's what he was doing But you went to like you for one you went too far with the age thing these young girls for two They the extra stuff that you was doing that's what make it worse to people. I think But if you really seen you listen a lot of people They he could they could leave if they wanted to They didn't leave but these were younger girls. Yeah, this is younger girl So I'm just saying no, but I'm saying but where are their parents exactly But if you're saying they parents took them to the concert let them go with them Yeah You just said So they should be locked up too. Yeah, I feel like I feel like if you For one, I'm not gonna ever take my daughters to be with no no man No grown man And I'm not gonna be there with you every time know what's going on. None of them like you're not you're not Contacts need to come through me. That's right You don't need to be talking to my my child that all none of that, you know, I'm saying because Obviously, you know something's wrong with him. You know, you know, something wrong with him for him to want to even deal with younger kids like No, we're not doing that Until this day like even with my my daughter's got friends that they call me dad And like, oh, I might not if you need something from me call him You know, I'm saying call him ahead. Don't call me Like you don't need to be calling me none of that, you know, what your parents let me talk to your parents But I understand because they can get them on I just wanted to bring that out because you got five daughters So guys anybody that's watching don't think i'm picking on people. I just felt like this guy was a guy to ask a question You know, because I didn't ask that to nobody else But bill just got out and like I said our kelly thing what you having a 15 year old and the way you All the way down to an eight year old, you know, um, just a good question to ask, you know Just to know because for me having a 15 year old in there You know, I forget my daughter No, I'm saying not like they were going. No, no, there's no reason why I want to be bold enough to ask that question Well, how did it even happen like just just just how did it even start? They said they they How from from what the documentary said And we don't know that's a lid exactly. That's why I really want to know how I know the document I'm gonna say something different than what well we really were saying and they took their kids to concerts And you know, let them meet the celebrity And then once they met the celebrity they you know, they all of these people wanted to do music So they felt like okay. Well, here's our chance to Well, they they should go to jail The accessory Yeah, because if you let your kid do you let your kid. No, that don't even sound right You're a parent. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying If you let your kid go do that without you like be around this person Yeah It's either everybody should be in jail or everybody should be out What are two I know some I should be in some I should be out They all should be good. I should be in y'all should be out one of the two Yeah Be a better parent We gotta do better about our kids because our kids don't they they're they're innocent, you know Like you said earlier Well, no the kid is innocent You crazy This is what you're putting your kids faces. What's going on? Yeah, Bob's they're trying to tell up in the way that you would have them go and they will not depart from it I believe that, you know what I mean? So man, hey man, we love you. I mean, I love y'all And if you ever need to come through and drop that new project off because you say I'm for to turn it back up You know, he can turn it up if you want to go on one track one track I told him you don't want to rap about it. That nigga want to rap be him No, no, it ain't that it's because it's because of what he said when he said he walked in He said I got the Other people like do it. I'm like no because I don't care not even the image. It's just one It's this is what this is what it is. I'll tell man My best friend is a dj one of the hottest djs out here. What's the name dj q dj q shout out boy from boss talk 101 we we talk our time and I'll tell him a lot of these people you got to have a star quality When you walk in the room, it's got to be something about you that people pay attention to you know what I'm saying Everybody don't got it Some people you just walk past some people you pay attention to like yo, I show how it is I'm saying so when he walked in they don't look at me. I'm like, okay. I'm thinking he's a artist Yeah, I'm thinking he finna do an interview too. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But that's that's that's what it is Some people just had that that that aura about them. That's what I'll be doing them too. I get it. Yeah I did it like that. I did it there with bird man in the Not with the bird man. Now it was french montana Uh, yeah jade of kids. I never forget it baby two chains. I walked in that thing man. I shut that thing down No, I'm saying shut it down. You can guess what here regular nigger. I don't I shut it down though. They were like, who are you? I tell people No, I'm from I'm from the country. I ain't not a e ceo. You got that you got me ceo, huh? Yeah, you got that quality and a lot of people don't know they got it You know, they just think like all people just you know, I got the confidence people deal with me It's not really it's not confidence because a lot of people are confidence It's you it's something about you that draw people to you You know, I'm sure crazy because I got everybody like me for some reason. I don't know why I could be mean as hell Why do you come out and gas this nigger up like that? It ain't even him man. It ain't no man. It ain't no man. You put that you hit that bag boy and then you get everybody like me. Why do you like me? You yeah Really cause I feel like you're gonna get in trouble. You keep my life exciting nigger. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah You keep my life exciting like You like I used to be like you so now it's like okay when I look at you I'm like, okay. I see that nigga getting to it. But then I want to make show I'm the buffer, you know, like I What I do I mean when I call you to be like nigger where you at even photo show It ain't gonna move down. I'm like, I love you nigger, but be careful. That's a photo show. You remember that? It's always been that way. I Got nothing to do with this show. Like don't be don't be out here doing that crazy cause we we're in it together If something happened to you it happened to me exactly and I tell people that because sometimes it could I just posted this the other day. Sometimes it could just be that one call Yep, you know what I'm saying? Like I ain't gonna never I'm gonna I posted this because this was true I'm a person that I'm not gonna tell you to go And do something like go get no job and then like that even though that might be the right thing to need to do I want to know what you want to do what you really want to do in life And I'm gonna push you to do that Yeah, because sometimes that's what you need to go and make that million dollars You know to become that person you want it to be it takes that person to say Do it. Wow, you know what I'm saying? Cause I I know how it is. I know how it is like Everybody needs that and sometimes it's that one call that's saying hey man You're doing good. Keep doing what you're doing. Keep it up. It's gonna go and that's gonna push you to keep going That's gonna stop you from you could have been I don't talk so many people off of Doing something dumb to they sell. Wow. Just off of tell them. Hey now are you looking at the Look at the the positive and that negative You know I'm saying that happened for a reason. Yeah, that stopped you from this happening to you That stopped you from going here and this could have been happening. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, all right You got that's how I look at life now. Well, you definitely like I said, you done You done you done pretty much blew it up in my face far as me thinking I if I tried to pick it I couldn't pick the fact that you you you're a single parent and uh, you do things outside the box and your heart Got a good heart man. That's the kind of heart we need in Dallas with all the stuff that's been going on Transpiring the healing for the city you wanted the keys to that Exactly Even even mr. Pookie mr. Pookie I am mr. Pookie. Yeah, like like those man like good people man I'd have met all them guys man I for so and it's some good people in the city and I think that this city has a lot of talent Like I said, I don't think the structure is right. Yeah, I think I think we need uh, we need a A person or a people or a group that come together and say we this yeah and stand on it Now for so and I mean really stand on it. You know, you got a few people saying they this I'm talking about really stand on it and then exhale with it. Yeah, so it'll be respected in this market Now for so that's what we need. I gotta I got a real question. What do they do for dance? They do for moms? Hmm, like what do they do for dancing? They do for mom's. I mean, I got mom's got got uh, uh government assistant today I got that too. Yeah, it can get the same thing Have a kid. Yeah. Yeah. It's the same thing. I didn't know You just gotta you just gotta go you gotta apply for it. Correct. Correct. Everything got there. It's it's Equalness to everything. That's correct. I feel as far as far as we don't everything As far as we just don't know I know because at the end of the day I feel like Long as you got custody and that paperwork is right. You good, you know, I'm saying We just told some some out some up people Some of y'all know now Wow So man, hey, thank you for coming on the show. We like I said, again, we love your behalf And if you got anything that you need to drop man or anything you're coming out with Or if you got somebody you're trying to help about the club come holler at me, man Now for sure. All right, man. Check it, man. It's been another great segment of boss talk 101