 you you'll be stood this brings it to another level so Joel Sherman here we go how's story in the New York Post talking about the Astros and you know some things that they they they have done or could have done and and what Manfred has to do check this paragraph out to me this is a game changer but this is a blight rights Joel and it is a blight that the commissioner's office should do all within its power to make sure it does not occur again and it would be folly to think that teams are into going to keep trying to push the limits in recent days I've had scouts and executives talk to me about a variety of methods they think have been or could be employed such as realistic looking electronic bandage placed on a player's body that buzzes in real time the signal what's coming one buzz for a fastball for example if the surveillance determines what type of pitch is coming one person I spoke to as ties to the Astros and said he has already had spoken to the MLB investigators if it's going even beyond the banging of the garbage can you almost have to the suspensions have to be so what do you do how I mean it's almost good band people from baseball I mean it's that level right I mean if you're if somebody has like a band around their arm that that buzzes when it's a fastball I mean that that's beyond cheating man no that's no it's exactly cheating it's not it's beyond any level of gamesmanship right it's fully into you are out and out you have a full proof plan to cheat is that cheating no no it is so the problem is we're not talking about one player one person like Pete Rose you know you throw him out of baseball you know with the black sock scandal the eight guys that participated in throwing the game you get rid of them what do you do the entire organization do you suspend all right let's see you find out that every batter participate in this every offensive player participated in this I mean are you gonna fire an entire team are you gonna spend it an entire let me throw this at you all right or is it too harsh be honest can you if you know that Jim Crane was totally complicit and knowledgeable everything going on do you pull a Donald Sterling and make himself a team all right let's say I agree with you mm-hmm it's not enough in the sense of all the other people that participated in that all right so he gets punished selling the team right and then you spend Lou now and hit Lou now hinge I mean can you ban them from baby if you're gonna make the owner sell the team that means you're throwing him out of the game right can you give a lifetime ban to the manager and the general manager all right then let's say you say oh yeah you got to do that the what do you do to the players do you ban them do you suspend them for a couple of years Michael I think the easier thing to do might be to just make them vacate the title now I don't think that works I don't think it works it doesn't work well it has to be one bit that has to be one piece of it but they want it it can't count anymore though if the cheating is this bad well they want it but but think about what you just said they want it but look at the length they went to win it so if you're admitting that we have to punish them because they took such an advantage of the fans the game the opposition the positive byproduct of the cheating was to win the championship yes they want to win money but they benefited from that and won the championship so that has to now go away has to now you can't erase people's memory all right but that's why that's fine but that's fine that's why it's not the only thing and then the banishment of the manager and the general manager and having those players that participated in some way shape or form either get banned get suspended for a year or find severely because not everybody that participated has to go at the same level as the guys that put it together now again what happens if this investigation shows that Carlos Beltran was indeed somebody that was not only on board with this but actually invented it with Cora and Hinch what do you do with them it's tough I do not want to be in Rob Manfred shoes but I think whatever his shoes are Michael he has to err on the side of over punishment rather than under punishment you can live with being too harsh but if you're too lenient it opens the door for the teams that are still doing it to continue to do it and teams that if they're desperate to try to do it you have to not just punish the Astros you have to come up with a way in which nobody would even think of ever doing this again Michael K