 Alright, so according to a news source the president in a letter read yesterday by Senate President Ahmed Lawan said that the fresh 800 millionaire loan will be used to scale up the National Social Safety Net program. Right? To assist poor and vulnerable Nigerians in coping with the cost of meeting basic needs. He wrote, please note that the Federal Executive Council approved an additional loan facility to the tune of 800 million dollars to be secured from the World Bank for the National Social Safety Net program and the need to request for your consideration and approval to ensure early implementation. He further added that the program is intended to expand coverage of shock responsive safety net support among the poor and vulnerable Nigerians and this will assist them in coping with the cost of meeting basic needs. Now considering our current realities, right? Do you think President Muhammad Abu Hari's 800 millionaire loan is the way to go? Now please let's hear what you have to say. Remember you can join the conversation send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 081-803-8466-3 can also tweet at us at Weissho after one with the hashtag Weissho. I have a lot to say, right? But I'm going to hold my peace and let me let all the ladies go first. Who wants to go first? Mary is definitely not in the mood for this. I don't know if this is the right way to go but we don't have a say in the first place because they've already signed it so what's really the point and we keep borrowing money and I think there are other ways we can you know help the poor because are you going to distribute this money to the poor people? That's what they've said. That they're going to distribute it as per the COVID distribution awards. Like how? It doesn't make any sense. We all know that that's not what's going to be done and I think it's just very sad that they kind of take us for a fool because I don't know why you would just come out and announce this kind of thing and obviously I'm trying to imagine like the people on the streets here in this and they're just looking at how hopeless it seems because where do you want to complain from? Where do you want to start from? You know the people at the top are just signing budgets, taking the money. He's going to leave the office when? In a few weeks and his own share will be done and he's saying oh I'm done I'm done with the country I'm not even going to stay with you people. And yet you're signing a large loan you know leaving the country in a larger debt so it makes no sense to me. Nigeria's problem is pretty much beyond me. I can't see it for your body language. Like everybody just do their best. God for us all. God for us all you know spread love like I'll say but I mean to be honest this I don't think it's the way to go I think there could have been other things I'm not really into the whole financial sector but I'm very much sure that there are a thousand and one ways we could have avoided signing this large amount of debts into our books. Uti, let me come to you. You can't spend what you don't have in such a reckless manner. I mean first and foremost to be fair the present has been consistent. He is top of my head I'm trying to make sure this is the right word. He's a socialist. Everybody will be okay. I just want to give everybody fish you know whether it's sustainable or not. It wasn't the 800 million that shocked me. If I take the trajectory of this government and leadership in general in this country you have a huge trust issue where you should be like working your tail off to improve your perception within the populace to build your trust to build transparency right that should be your focus. You should be addressing what is extremely important to the general populace so that the people believe that they have a voice so that people believe that you know what their problems are. This is the best you're going to do. It reeks of anybody that watches the show knows me. I don't just like the less bash for bashing sake. I always try to look at things as objectively as I can and when I saw this I just thought I mean there's just no soap to wash this clean because the truth is I mean there's just too many problems around this. First of all it's the last one. It doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense where it makes sense it makes sense. You have a few more weeks in office. This is a very tentative period. As far as I'm concerned it's the good lot that's keeping this country together right now. This is a very tentative period. You don't want to do anything. There are a lot of angry people. You don't want to do anything to tip the balance. Then you rock up one morning and say you know the best thing I'm going to do right now is I'm just gonna go and take more debt. Let's not stop at a 10 million, 20 million, 100 million, 800 million dollars for the sky and let's go for 800 million dollars. This is I'm just going to mortgage your entire future. Now what hurt me even more was I said okay let me see what this 800 million is for. Are you trying to maybe give quick allocations to maybe the infrastructure projects that you you know already started. He's done a lot in that space whether it's whatever it's the railway you know all the different projects and plethora of things that are going on all across Nigeria. Maybe it was that so that I want to leave a legacy of maybe I've done these projects and I've created revenue and I've given us something that you can you know leave and hold on to. No no no it wasn't that. Now I then saw the national social safety network program at first I thought hang on is this a defense system for Nigeria? This is how my mind processes things. So I had to go back and check that you know a couple of days ago I think it was last week there was something in the news about Ukraine deploying this massive technology from America that allowed them to stop a certain type of Russian missile and you know fantastic. So I thought here's it something like that. No I'm serious guys and I thought that that was it but no then I saw the word in there social I said I can't be. So what is it? Then I read a few places and asked a few people and they said no that the program is a social intervention program that will stimulate activities in the informal sector improve nutrition health education and human capital development of beneficiary households. Again sounds wonderful. I'm going somewhere sounds great and then I kept reading. So now to do all of these things that I've read nutrition health human capital you know all of these fantastic things please how much is each household now gonna get this is where it gets absolutely wonderful that we are now going to offer a whopping you are going to offer a whopping sum of 5,000 a month to 10.2 million poor and low-income households for a period of six months with a multi-plyer affects on about 60 million individuals. Again I don't know how to sell this one because I don't care what kind of society you are in. 5,000 naira will not last. So it is not going to educate your children because they can't pay school fees even in the government schools. It's not going to feed your family for a week it's not I mean a one person will feed themselves for maybe three days with 5,000 naira. I'm trying to be positive here. So what you've essentially done is put us in debt to give people fish. You didn't say I want to direct this to a couple of nets that will make a huge impact. You didn't talk about education I mean I saw somewhere where the Asu chairman was forming at the mouth about this whole thing about how can you spend this money on education. All of these things I'm like so now Utti how do you come here and then try to say that you will give the government a break. There's a lot of things wrong here and I am upset because I am one of those people that I give you the benefits of the doubt. If you do something good I shout but today my mouth is closed because I am shocked. So let me will now help you Utti. You know where the thing that killed me finished in this country. A country that has refused to take census. A country that refuses to get appropriate data. How did you come about calculating 10.6 million households out of the 200 million? Out of the 200 million that we are not sure of our numbers. Let's just say 200 million. Do you know what I'm saying? So you cannot like I don't understand. See sometimes I wonder if truly our leaders are actually like they really I don't want to be insulted but sometimes do they really sit back to listen to themselves when they talk or when they act. Do they go back to review what it is that they're doing. 10 point whatever million you have not done census. You don't know your numbers. You don't know how many people are truly in need. Then in your current economy as a country what exactly can 5,000 Naira do for you as a person. Somebody will come up with me and say forget it. There are some people that with 500 Naira they can feed. They can do this. They can. Yeah but even if they can do with 500 Naira. No, no, no, no, let's even take that argument right because yes I mean with 500 Naira you can have a meal. It may not be a great meal but you can have a meal. So my point is it's still 10 meals in the grand scheme of your life. There are 30 days in a month that you can't even eat once a day. So the point is right. I like the the direction that you're going in about the census. I mean again when I saw this I know sometimes when they try to cover your eyes like they try to distract you then I see all these monies are going to be distributed electronically. It's me you want to wash. So wait now. Nadia bide go. No. So before you even go to wanting to take it digitally that's why I said I like where we started from. What is the assessment criteria to pick 10.2 million households out of the entire scope of Nigeria? What is you know because there must be some assessment. There must be some parameters that you would use. So what is the assessment? How is it going to be done? We have data issues in Nigeria. We have the, what does that have to call it now, the people that don't have any identification. Yes. You have all those guys right. Yeah. We don't even know who you are. We don't even know who you are. Whether you exist coming back to your point about the census right. We don't have any of those things. So is it because for me to transfer electronically that means is the people that have BVN, people that have account number. And guess what? If you want to change lives it's not those people you need to give $5,000. Exactly. We don't even come to back to even this electronic transfer. Now we have seen and this is not something that is actually strange to a lot of Nigerians. There will be a location. So I was talking to, what's her name? The football, sorry not football, the huddle champion. Yes, the world, what's her name? Tobi Amusa. And she said that, you know, she was very visibly angry that she went to, they flew her into Abuja. They saw the razzmatas, did all the pictures, took all the things and said, oh, they had allocated this, they allocated that, that till tomorrow. Everything that they said they gave her in Abuja, she has not used her eyes to see that, if they gave her maybe yesterday that she's not aware of. Do you know what I'm saying? This is something that it is even televised and all of that. This I know. First of all they will never do it electronically because you see in Nigerian system, right? If I come, I give you $10,000 and I say go and distribute. You first of all keep $5,000, right? You keep $5,000 and you take $5,000, you give it to somebody that will take $3,000 out. At the end of the day, it might just be like a $1,000 that will get wherever it is that needs that money. And they'll say they shared. Do you know what I'm saying? But in the mind of the precedents, $800 million has been disposed to 10.8 million people. You act as if you do not know your system. If they even did it electronically, let's even say, okay, yes, they called all the banks, okay, they want to disbose this money. I will not even be paying. I know how the system works in Nigeria. You now say, oh, market women, they don't have account, they don't do this. You bring all sorts of excuses. Because guess what? 80% of that money will go into the coffers of people that are already wealthy. So when Governor Shula was doing the housing scheme, sorry, Mary, Governor Shula was doing the housing scheme for Lagos State, the one that I applied for and all of that. Now, part of why he put very strict conditions was because over the years, civil servants, because they are privy to those information, they're privy to when there's a development and all of that, he put those measures that if your name is, what's it called, if your name is on the system, you can, they cannot approve whatever. And guess what happens, right? All of those, all of those was equaled civil servants, they could not get anything. It was the real people that needed it. It hit. So people that needed it got was equaled, they got the houses. And so that was impact. Because first of all, you had to first of all cancel the existing structure. So you had to be a taxpayer, you had to be this, you had to be that, you had to be a first time homeowner, that you don't have any records at all in lands. Now somebody now wakes up and says you want to go and take $800 million. Do you know what that is? And you know, say, see what you exactly you're doing. I mean, you're using the $800 million. For a country that you have refused to take census, you don't know your actual numbers. How would you know what you're fighting if you don't even know the data? What would you know that you're fighting? We'll take a break. When we come back from that break, this conversation, please, I want to leave it in your hands. I need to drink water. All right, thanks for staying with us. Now, if you just tuned in, it's our ladies night out. And we're discussing the topic is President Mohammed Buhari's $800 million loan request the way forward. Now, please let's hear what you have to say. Remember, you can join the conversation, send us an SMS or a tap to do it 1-803-4663. You can also do that as a way show after one with the hashtag way show. I don't even know what to say, Mary. I'm confused. I mean, okay, our phone line, sorry, is now open. The number to call is 470-250-077-49. That's the number to call. Remember to turn off the volume of your television and say, please, where you call? Don't insult him. Don't insult anybody. Just tell us what is, what is angering you like? We are upset right now. Like, so, okay. I mean, part of why I said that I don't want to have a lot of children is because I understand the implication, the cost implication to my pockets. If you really want to have decent education for your children, you want to give them healthy, I mean, a good, good home, good meals and all of that. You can't have too many, you know, going to the days where you have like, you born like 15, 20, you know, these days, a lot of parents are actually sticking to one, two kids or at most maybe four, right? Because they understand the financial implication that it has. Now, Nigeria is a country that we have a father, a global father, right? Global father now. You don't know how many children you born. Let me take Austin for a minute. Let me calm them. Austin, thank you for calling your life. Good evening, madam. Good evening to you all. Hi, good evening. Welcome back. We thought, we thought you I wish I did, though. Okay. The issue is this. The eight hundred million US dollars is to cushion the effect of the subsidy remover. Because obviously, when the subsidy is removed, increase in the prices of petroleum products and that will further affect the economy. And the most vulnerable people in the society will suffer. So, in their own reasoning, that money will now be used to cushion that effect. But in my own opinion, I don't think it will, I don't think it's going to work. It's not going to work because how do they even determine the most vulnerable people in our society? But again, the loan, well, if they take the loan eventually, if take the loan eventually, I'm not so sure the government, the next government is going to remove the subsidy immediately because that would be a recipe for for chaos. It would not be good for the coming government to take the subsidy. So, we are seriously advising on that. Let the refineries work first. Our refineries should work. Okay. The refineries coming on stream now at the end of the month and then if other refineries are put in order, then you can stop the subsidy and then because that would mean that there would no longer be a position of petroleum products into the country. Absolutely. For Austin, so the problem I have, right, it's not even about, it is the structure of, I mean, Chinasa used to say the anyhow nest that we do things, right, you want to give vulnerable people. Do you even know the people that are vulnerable in the society? They don't know. So, you were talking about vulnerable. They said poor households. Why would you identify them? How, how, what, how do you define a poor household? And it was right when I said I'm a poor household. So, why don't you talk about the most vulnerable people? They are not in households. They are not even in houses. Yeah, I agree with you. Hello. Yes, go ahead, Austin. I agree with you that most of those monies will go into private case. I mean, we are in Nigeria. We know what is happening here. What goes on? The, the so-called vulnerable persons, not all, not all of them will be able to get the money. So, we're actually advising the government. What we're telling the government is stop the loan and then make your refineries work and so that there will be no longer a position of where, because obviously if our refineries are working, the, the prices of petroleum products will come down. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Austin. All right, I mean. So, it's from me, whatever you do, so when you take a loan, if you as an individual were going to take a loan, you would assess your ability to repay your loan. Your exposure. Exactly. You would, you would look at how you would continue to live because you have to pay this loan in addition to your other expenses and debt and all of that. And you would weigh all of these things against the value you'd be getting from whatever that money you were going to be borrowing was for. What impact, right? How are we going to measure the impact on this? Now, I understand that 800 million dollars, sorry, going into the Nigerian economy, because if I get this money, I'll spend it on food, I'll spend it on all of these different aspects. It's a huge boost to the economy, but we know that the money is not going to go where it's supposed to go. And we know that when this money goes in the places, to the places where it will go, nine out of ten times, it will be used to repurchase dollar and it will leave the country. God help us. Let me take Rami, I didn't go okay from Joss. You're alive. Hello Rami, you're alive. I know, I know. Go ahead. Good evening. Good evening. Yeah, one government is purchasing. Hello. We can hear you, go ahead. Okay. In the rest of this 800 million dollar for alternative, I think it's just a way of sabotaging the economy and make it worse. Thank you Rami. Because nothing that the government has proposed to benefit the public that has actually benefit anybody, this such money will eventually end up in private pocket. Thank you. Thank you. I mean please when you call, remember to turn the volume, turn off the volume of the device you're watching us from so we don't get a feedback. Go ahead. It's the same thing. Nobody trust it. And the sad thing is that like what Uti West was going with that analysis, like me now, they have some loans I can not take any. Do you understand? Not because I do not have, I mean every day you're back, they already send me a message. Take this loan, one thing, one thing. I have, I can get up now and they will give me, you know, a huge sum of money. But look at it critically. Do I need that and if I take out my monthly income, would it be able to sustain that loan? You know, whatever it is I'm making, what are we generating as a country? How are we earning you understand as a country? We're not earning money, yet we are, we are just borrowing. So you do not, that means you do not have intent and that's why somebody like, I did the case, I am saying that the court is almost like a deliberate attempt to sabotage the economy, would be accepted because you don't have any plans. All you want to do is continue to just borrow and borrow and borrow. Where is the plan to, to, to what's called, get back this money? The farmers that need, what's it called loans, to be able to probably buy equipment to grow the economy, to be able to maybe export goods and all of that. You are not giving them those monies. The people that can generate manufacturers that can, that we, we can bank on and so they can generate, what's it called, income for us. We're not banking on those people, you know, and you are there saying that you want to give loans and palliatives. When you have not been able to distribute noodles, you have not been able to distribute noodles. Well, that was such a low blow. Not really. No. I see when I saw this, I was prepared though. That was why I smiled on the smile, I needed to smile. You know, I mean, you're so right and this is where I come back to that whole aspect of trust and transparency. You're not doing yourself any favours by doing this. Even if, you know, when you are going to make a decision, you weigh a lot of different areas of input to kind of decide if it's the right decision. Even if we take what Austin said and said, okay, this was their own version of a plan to ease the impact of removing the subsidy. It's all well and good. So you come to the table and you say, okay, I have a plan. Here are my ideas and my thoughts around how we're going to fix this problem or ease the distress. Great. You bring a plan to the table and then we start to consider different factors. You consider how it will be accepted, how it will be viewed, the impact, how you're going to convince people. Given the challenges that you know that you have, you have a trust issue, you have a transparency issue, you have a corruption issue, I mean the list goes on and on and you start to weigh the pros and the cons. It's almost like doing a sort analysis, right? And you ask yourself whether this is the way to go. There are so many things, typically when an administration is outgoing, they spend these last minutes signing happy bills so that, you know, we can leave all these sort of wonderful, they don't even isolate your problem. But you know, things that last minute, just things we can sign, these are the great things we've done. But you don't go and stir up a hundredth nest to say that I just want to spend eight hundred million dollars in a way that seems to everybody that is rational, irresponsible. Let me even say that on that subsidy, you and I know that there has not been transparency even in that subsidy. Oh no, we know that. We have portfolio companies that do not exist. Exactly. That go and collect. Do you know what I'm saying? The amount of decay that has happened, right, and the amount of leakages that we have as a country where, you know, it's almost like people have just connected all sorts of what's it called, big pipes to drain the coffers of the economy. You have not sorted those ones out. Now, I was supposed to do international passports for my son. So the person that we were supposed to do in Ocean State, mistakenly, booked him for Lagos, right? But then she booked it. I said, so, I mean, I didn't want to do it in Lagos. I wanted to do it, and so I just picked him to score and all of that. He said, no, you cannot, whatever. But I now said in my head, was there not a TSA account? So how can one person, right, one human being, pay in multiple accounts the same name? You've not even been able to clean up that system that all know that once the money that they cannot transfer funds. But I paid the money. Something that you can prove electronically that the transfer has been done. So I've had to pay another money. We got to Lagos now. There was still another issue. I've had to pay another money in Abuja. So one person, I've paid three times to the government, and you're not telling me that this kind of system, they will not find a way to do Magumago Day. It doesn't make any sense. I think we can all agree that it doesn't make sense. So the what's it called? The subsidy in itself is a big scam. We know. Companies that do not exist are collecting subsidy. You've not addressed that situation. The amount of corruption that has happened in the petroleum sector. So that's why I said that you're even going far. All of these things that you're listing have not been addressed in eight years. Well they're not going to be addressed before May 29th. So let's be clear. Because I mean you're, I mean really there's a lot of calm down. No that's why I'm trying to get you to calm down because you, I mean these things I try to focus on or what is into Moots Point. It is the very problem with the decision for me. It doesn't matter how great the idea is. If it isn't thoroughly weighed and queried and thought out. I mean you have an entire team. You know when they said the FEC had signed off on this. I was like who and what presented this? And on what basis was it signed off? Other than we just thought ha ha ha. How about we just find a way to you know. Our final parting gift. Thank you. So there is no logical, let's be clear. I can say it because I pride myself that in that space I got it. There is no logical reason for this conversation that we are having today. I mean I'm paying by that fact. Because every which way you think about it. What was our death profile? At the end of last year 2022 I think we were already at 46.5 billion or something ridiculous like that. Was it trillion Naira? We were already at that as at the end of 2022. So you can understand why this is a problem right? Yeah so 46.25 trillion Naira as at the end of 2022. It climbed by 17 percent or which is equivalent to 6.69 trillion last year. Setting on a new all-time high. How you imagine? Now what is your plan to pay back this money? Because as much as we have been talking about diversifying, diversifying, diversifying, let's be clear we are also living on all money. Let's be clear we're also living on all money. And at some point, please you are watching the way of the world, the SDG goes around around climate change. They are electric cars. Every day right now. I mean the writing is on the wall folks. It may be a it may still be a ways off but it's not more than a generation. So let me even add to that what you just said. Oh my god. I calculated my brain. I never find any reason. You see how people go and collect federal loans. So for instance from bank of industry and all that with no intent to pay back. Absolutely. Do you understand? Because it is in our nature. You see somebody you go and collect a loan you know you and I know you don't have plans to pay back that money. Do you understand? And see how this loan issue has dealt with so many banks that some of them have had to probably you know merge with other banks. Some of them have had to go under. Some of them you know that somebody just bought them at a giveaway price and all of that. You already see what loans are doing. And you now wake up you open your eyes and walk to the world bank and say like really well in front of us. Nigerians truly take loans with zero intentions. That's what I mean it's hardly anybody will ask me for a loan that I will say. You know because I it's better let me know that I'm dashing you that money. Well let's hold on to some positivity. You know I like it. Where is it? I like to look. I like to look. Where is it? Well the world bank hasn't given us the loan yet. You should not give us this. World bank I can't go to school now. They haven't given us a loan and I know IMF has raised concerns. Please. I gave birth to IMF. So let's be positive. I mean this is the time we have to call out those pastors. Let us hold prayer first. May they not give Nigeria this loan. It's too much. So the anyhowness of it. Let's be happy that you know they're going to world bank and they're not going to certain other parts of Asia. China asked for the money. You have to call them. I have to call them because they would have given you the money. Only two miles back. So let's be glad that at least the decision hasn't been taken. I don't even think. I mean he presented it to Senate. I don't know if there's been an outcome there. So let's hope that there are obstacles in the way. Let's take a comment. I think world bank please approve the loan. We've had enough loans. All right. So I have a comment here from Sanctus. Sanctus says this is an outrageous request for President Buhari to make such a demand for such money when he still has. When he has a few days in office who is cheating us in this country. How do we determine who and who are the poor in this country. There's no system or mechanism to track and distribute the money to the poor and to make sure that the poor ones are the ones getting the money. Nigeria is a unique country where both the rich and poor cry at the same time because of corruption. Very valid point. The rich people are corrupt and the poor ones are also corrupt. PMB's eight hundred million dollars is not the way to go at all. Absolutely. I have a comment says from Mr. Idris. Good evening beautiful ladies. Nothing surprises me anymore in Nigeria. Nigeria can be likened to this quote by philosopher who said this world is a comedy to those who think and a tragedy to those who feel. If you think very well some things that happen in Nigeria as a comedy what President Buhari is doing is to do give away as his tenor answer Uti, we are beautiful. Please wear a slide, Mr. Idris. Oh my god. Isn't that President Buhari? They do give away. I like the way he put it. You know there's not some things you can't say. Yes. You know. Uti, they don't use our life to give away. It comes very immediately. You know, I mean when you own money. Honestly speaking for a country I mean on a serious note right for a country that is not accountable in any form you do a road, maybe a kilometer road that would cost let's say a hundred thousand Naira. You will put one billion Naira there. That's already a leakage. You want to do a project? No, no wait now. Let me because it's like people are not getting the kind of leaders that we get. You know it already. We know there are leakages. It's like telling me my name is Uti. Okay. We know. We take off. Sorry, I'll be back. Talk about your life. Go ahead. My name is Demi. Go ahead. Your life. Yes. The government that are unable to distribute garrie, rice, endermen during the, what's the point? This great despondency. I don't know how they want to go about this but I see this thing as just they just want to cheat the masses because they know they want to get. How do they want to pay it? Detainment is going to be for me, you and everybody in Nigeria. Thank you talk about. I mean because I did try to explain something when they say look at you. I understand but I need to reiterate it that you are not even accountable when it comes to projects that you do. I buy this for ten thousand nair. I will go and tell government that I bought it for one billionaire and somebody would approve it without even going to go and check the market price. You will not even buy the one that is. That is even now original. You still buy the one that if I use it after two this thing when I switch it on inside the phone. You know so like we are so comfortable right? Cheating ourselves, dealing with ourselves, right? And you now wake up and say you want to now just give us this final parting gift. It makes no sense. What do you want people to do? We have Mr. Ben from just we have a lot of just people today. Mr. Ben your life. Good evening. Good evening. And your crew members. What I like to say all the moon that this our president has collected since he came. If you take touch light or Julius Beger light and search you cannot find where they are. The news just last month we are using 90 something 98 percent of our income to service debt not to pay of debt just to service. Like I borrow 100 naira from you. You tell me every month pay me 10 naira. We are paying the 10 naira or 100 naira with the whole income that Nigeria is earning. And you are servicing debt. You are going for another debt. I do not know how these people are thinking. God help us. Thank you so much Mr. Ben. On that note I think we've had a fantastic conversation. I will still talk to my mind. I am paying. Well hey I'm just hoping that maybe some stroke of wave will enter these minds of our leaders and they will begin to I don't know. Again. I just need to pray. Let's find the realism in this story. Your focus right now should pray that the world bank doesn't approve the law. No they won't approve it. We have already prayed that one in Jesus' name. So don't don't don't all this other our leader we've been praying it's been it's been how many years 60. Ha. On that note thank you. Thank you Mario. God will be with us in Jesus' name. Amen. All right so before we go thank you everyone that called. Sorry we can't take more calls again. Remember you can join follow us on all our social media platforms at Weshaw Africa you can interact with us. Further drop a comment. And more importantly follow all our engagements on social media likes and invite your families and friends to watch and follow the conversation. If you missed our quote from our dear president just define why he needs eight hundred million dollars he says you may wish to note that the federal government of Nigeria under conditional cash transfer window of the program will transfer the sum of five thousand Naira per month to ten point two million poor and low income households for a period of six months with a multiply effect on about 60 million individuals. So this is his idea of Sarah. I haven't just picked up the fact that so that five thousand Naira you're talking about households multiple people. He Lord help us. See you guys tomorrow at 8 p.m.