 there welcome in everybody monday morning here well do uh... everybody on the retro tech channel it's not uh... it's not my youtube channel so i'm gonna make sure to swear every sentence uh... man it's funny you should mention that cuz uh... i have like uh... my my just a random story here to start off i was at a traveling this weekend in my son he's twelve he went home with his cousins who are also twelve and fifteen and i mean they were getting busted say like f-bombs and stuff by me the grandparents getting so much trouble it's starting to fake i'm probably a bad example already for these kids so anyway hey everybody thank you for coming in this morning i see a lot of people in the chat uh... we're gonna give you some shout outs here to second uh... but before we do that if you please could do a solid favor and hit the like button for us and just like bob is demonstrating on the power button i'm going to power on this pvm cuz it's going to take a while to get a signal so we could do our intros and stuff while we wait good idea cuz that's what we're trying to fix here today yeah so uh... yeah do all that great stuff you know you know how the algorithm is just uh... help us out with a like uh... this is special episode of the bunker the live show that happens mondays and thursday's at this time slot and thank you all again for showing up uh... bob is here with me and bob has uh... a pvm here uh... this is a fourteen oh five and to give you a little bit of backstory on this particular fourteen oh five this is one that i actually had for about a year in my shop uh... and then i try to do a couple repairs that were documented i called save on pat and we just couldn't figure out what's going on it kept auto shutting off uh... but we narrowed it down to being a problem on the main board and uh... so bob is it just like going right now and it's still just like it stays dark like that it stays dark for a while and then after it comes up eventually uh... you get a signal but then it takes even longer for it to look great and it never looks right and i think part of that's because we removed the uh... scuffed up tint from this however on my uh... eight twenty i also removed the tint from that and just by messing with the brightness and contrast it looks perfect i don't know if the fourteen l five's use a different type of tent that actually requires to look great but we're definitely gonna be checking that out on the stream so yeah so this one was one we try to fix before uh... the net board on this one has been serviced and then what you see also there on the screen next to the c r t is the uh... actual deflection package or card and that card has also been serviced uh... but what bob had was an issue somewhere on the main board that we couldn't get to i couldn't pinpoint and uh... we couldn't get it to stop shutting itself off so bob found some spare parts and we installed the spare deflection board first on the last stream he had i mean it was a three to five months ago on a say and uh... on his channel and then that didn't solve the issue so we went and we installed if you were lucky enough to be at the uh... bob's and tito's booth at retro world expo this year you got to see us basically go in swap out the main board from the parts then he had on this fourteen oh five when we did at first i didn't think it was working right cuz uh... we just did just did what bob has got going on right now where it kinda sat here for a while and we figured maybe the board just hadn't had any juicer electricity thrown in a while cuz after a while it just came up and looks good now i will admit bob we were using if you remember we were using s video to test things at the site so i don't know if that also is uh... contributing to like the color looking different uh... for the rgb because we didn't actually get to test that so that's possibility but anyway we we finally got it it did take like fifteen minutes and it was looking really good and we just left it running so people could see it for a while and then that was last we heard of it bob said it's still got the issues going where we could see so the first thing we're gonna do is let come up and take a look i think it's starting to show some signs of maybe warming up that's now yeah so as you guys can all see uh... when when i had when i had powered it on i'd even hit the menu button just to get the menu overlay and that wasn't even working so it's more than just uh... more than just alright so we're getting a signal now right there it is so they see that that alone took uh... we saw live it's been five minutes on the show so that took five minutes for just a single show that's not generally normal for uh... for pvm's to take that long yeah like thirty seconds to a minute is pretty normal but there's definitely uh... something and it still is probably gonna take a little bit longer for the colors to come up and look semi whatever uh... it does look awesome on this though yeah so i mean it's definitely the thing is it's working i'm just wondering if this is an issue to me i'm gonna be honest with you bob i'm afraid it's more of an issue with like the board that's the main board that's going to have to be yeah that's gonna have to probably be read you know recapped like the other one was that didn't work when we did it is probably got uh... but hopefully not because most of those issues that would be from that warm-up i would believe would be in that in that main block will try because this one's already been recapped and it's better anyway uh... so will try to open her up and uh... do that otherwise you just have to i think we'll have to wait till like and do the recap on the main board next year's retro world yeah i mean so this monitor my goal for this one is to sit it next to my oscilloscope and to use it to test everything because it's a multi-format monitor so uh... if we get it mint that would be amazing but if we don't uh... as long as it's still usable i can still use it for all the things that i need to use it for so yeah um... yeah i was just going to disassemble this thing and uh... again thank you everybody if uh... if you haven't already you're able to just remember to hit the like on there for us all man grails hobbies thank you so much you super chat here fifty bucks always good to see a steven great to see a helping bob not get some mains voltage to the hand l l good luck yeah thank you bad that is always appreciated yeah absolutely yeah we're gonna hang out do this i thought it would be fun i had traveled all weekend bob asked if we could do this i thought you know hey if i could get this situated uh... to do this show the normal times plot i really wanted to because that was my goal to kind of keep something going on a normal time frame all right well bob soon that i'm gonna get some shutouts people the chat hate a belmont thank you for always showing up uh... wait for concrete to pull up that's awesome trucks running a little late i guess let's go back we got zero sleep here robert crease uh... andre thank you for showing up doctor claw dan b brian harmon stephen c snuffer stuffer dan b robert cal catteler sorry if i said that wrong good morning to everybody snuffer stuff i thought you said that wrong yeah i always say it wrong at least i mean there was one there's been some times i've said some really bad stuff where it's like gotten away wrong i even have an oversize monitor but my vision i just can't read those little little letters daryl smith good to see you uh... aerial aces self elected hey everybody dan b thank you for the next super chat i really appreciate guys steve have you thought of putting a list of trusted crt repairs on your patreon well i i'll i can give you the list here there's there's not that many like that i actually fully trust you know it's it's like you got save on pad if you're out west and andy king if you're out west if you're in the center of the country you can get a hold of keith reyney and there's myself and then there's some other people that i do know that are training so uh... i think that's a good idea though uh... i i would like to be able to have more people so but also it's kind of one of those things where it's hard to really go out you know how it is bob it's hard to go out and always give people a recommendation unless you really know i'm it's no offense to anybody but they could kind of like i don't need to be able to never have lists on the site anymore because that caused more trouble than anything else then if you want to piss people off faster than there's only two ways that you could piss people off instantly the even worse than religion in politics is you talk about money or you put somebody on a list and then immediately everybody is not on the list feels like you're directly insulting them personally and then the people on the list get overwhelmed with work so their work you know they either have to start turning people away or their work falters and how people are pissed at me including the people on the list oh yeah yeah unfortunately yeah it's not it's not really great i mean like i said that's really why i know this guys they really are committed and if if they're willing to work on something for you can get them to uh... bob's got the shell off and uh... hey to gory could you explain for a bit why i'm not discharging this share not not only for the work that i'm doing but this particular monitor right here right so just for some safety discussion actually that was a good thing i i've been asking i get a lot of requests for stuff on safety so we'll warm it up here but uh... you're gonna uh... will take the safety to an extreme in a in an upcoming episode of this live show or something because i really need to have some updated stuff like five years anyway bob does not need to discharge this particular pvm because a lot of this stuff is isolated so the high voltage is actually completely isolated away from the board he's removing uh... that's all contained within that uh... tube that high voltage cap and that and a anode cable down to the flyback transformer the second thing is uh... these pvms they have bleeder resistors built into them specifically so they generally you know ninety nine percent of the time are going to self discharge i think i've seen one not self discharge it wasn't an l five it was uh... twenty m two uh... that has happened once out of the like eight years i've worked on pvms but so it's pretty much like ninety nine point five percent of the time it won't but he doesn't even have to full with that because that's all isolated and uh... this card is on the outside so he doesn't the high voltage would not be stored anywhere near this now the bad thing is is the part that bob's trying to remove this uh... think from is pretty flimsy and that whole card holder an arm bracket is known to break and this may be something we need to eventually talk to i mean i think somebody already has done the design files for a print file for it uh... i've just not talented enough to print them now the connectors on the side nothing special with these i could just yank them off because he has long since not the car which is fine you're not messing with that middle card you're just gonna untwist the black connector that's like holding the cable bundles there uh... you'll want to be careful with the ground cables too because they they can be tricky you know you gotta kind of slip the screwdriver something in there and slip them out to release them uh... the other ones that looks like you got most of them out yeah so just to reiterate even though steven i know that this is probably not going to fix the issue this is already recapped so why not right that's a better one yeah coal is still not going to take very long we're going to be able to get to the second CRT very quickly so i just it's one of these like why wouldn't we you know well let's try it maybe we'll get lucky yeah bellmont coal coal is snoring call it to stay at the uh... at the dog borders and he was wild when i went and got him this morning so i had to take him on a long walk and now he's passed out over your snoring like an old an old man gory you ask her you're asking about the eight zero four one q that has a black and white image problem uh... you can go look up i've done quite a few videos and livestreams about how to fix that and uh... i believe i may have even done a write up for retro rgb so if you go to retro rgb dot com and search for retro tech you will get uh... you will get a list of the articles i've written and i believe one of them in there is directly about how to repair that issue because it's an issue with potential meters that you have to replace on one of the cards and the reason it's happening is the whatever the the more it heats up it's either the bad solder at that point but eventually those potential meters are going to go bad uh... okay we got enough step on c thank you for the super chat would you say it's expected for the rubber on the anode cap or anode wire to degrade over time uh... if it step you've had a consumer set where it was leaking high voltage yeah that can happen and it's a reason that and this is something that'll be more covered in like that future safety episode but you want to do an initial inspection of this if you don't know anything about the c r t before you really do anything you would open it up and look at it and even before touching it check out the quality of it is it something that you think well maybe there is a chance so you take that extra precaution to set up and do it extra safe discharge uh... procedure you know like one of your safest safest ones where you're just isolating everything put your hand behind there slide that under there and discharging it fully correctly uh... and then you can take it apart and further uh... inspected and uh... try to you know fix it uh... from that point on alright man super chats are rolling in guys i really appreciate all this robert yeah super chats are always really really appreciated it uh... i always say i always sound cheesy like a full ship but it is stuff like that that really does keep channels like steve and i was going to thank you all keep those keep those coming about your man steve yeah i really appreciate it guys is probably the most i've ever gotten on a stream i know that uh... just want to say thank you just add if you're working on a c r t for you know one of the first times treat it as if your anode cap is cracked treat it as if your discharge resistor is broken because there's zero side effects other than it might take a little bit longer and you might be a little more cautious like it's not you know you're not going to do any harm by being a little more cautious with the discharge whereas you could potentially do harm if you don't discharge it right at all and then once you get to the steve level of expertise you could just basically look at it and know how this was going to be dangerous others would probably isn't let me do it this way let me do it that way right and bob's absolutely correct uh... there's no there's no really like rhyme or reason to it sometimes you guys have seen on the channel where i worked on that to shiba which was in the late two thousands and it had the worst uh... zap i've ever seen and so you've got to always be prepared for that kind of thing and like with that television i proceeded with a lot of caution ahead of time because i'd never worked on one and i thought it might be like that uh... and i especially if you're working on a c r t there's no harm in taking extreme time until i mean you really should take your time on anything to really learn it properly uh... the c r t should be like the graduate level uh... you know you need some pre-education before you start working on c r t's don't just open up a c r t and try to mess around in it usually uh... all right let me get to robert just want to say thank you to you both both of you for continuing to educate inspired people but especially for promoting a fun and non-toxic community all well thanks robert i never really thought of it like too much like that but we're not you know we're in the we're in the business to try to like look at old electronics video games and that we try to have fun as bob knows even in this environment not everything's perfect we try not to go to those places though yeah and what we do we try to do it with our friends fucking loser zez what the hell man zez is like disappeared he uh... got the bastard this is what he did to me i told him i was like you know i've he's like what's been going on as a man i've really been like trying to work out more every day and he's like oh well let's do push-ups and hold each other accountable and i'm like dammit you just added like additional workouts i wasn't doing to my already my already ridiculous like working out for the first time and try to do that so uh... yeah if you ever hear steve or i talk horrible shit about somebody their friend yeah that's the truth we don't know about it like we're all just joking on each other it's not even shoot even in my last stupid main video i i goofed on uh... read on uh... the retro think by making up a by strapping a two x to a vr headset i saw i think i saw that and i was just like just now i'm just gonna be silly for five seconds i also loved your absolutely horrible impression of martin but what somebody from belgium sounds like that cracked me up all i think it's going to be like here's the thing i i don't know man like i was uh... i was working for to put some stuff together for eight bid esquire because he's doing another long episode about pvms and uh... he was showing me some of the clips he's been working on it and i just don't even know that where he's coming get this stuff it's so out there and corrects you like these little segments uh... alright so you sure you got everything plugged in there all the way good to go uh... no but i'm pretty sure uh... like pretty sure is where i'm i'm at right now so let me uh... we put a couple of bolts back in this thing just so that nothing shifts around okay because that's the other thing too i know it's bad luck bad modder's luck to put your case on before you power it up and test it but don't my look i'm gonna chip and fall in this hdmi cable right onto the end of the cup which would be cracked because that's my luck and you all get to what electrocute myself and ship myself live on stream like to avoid that today it would be good chats come rolling in alright yeah so uh... just gonna get in here and test this thing for a second there is only one flaw in our plan here today okay we power the sucker on it works perfectly how do we know it's not because we charged up the caps when we just powered on the beginning of the stream though i might not know for sure till tomorrow that's true it's very true so that's what we'll have to do we'll kind of have to look that or uh... maybe at the after we look at the other one it'll cool down but you're probably right cause it hasn't any chance people get to see the inside of a a multi-format bvm it's gotta be a good thing yeah that's what i was uh... i really think i was blown away with how many people came up at the booth and were just blown like really interested in seeing inside those CRTs and then you were right though because we hadn't run it for a minute and there was no shell on it these kids walked up and then bob was like i put this away so some kid doesn't touch it zap himself it would have been awful yeah uh... but yeah guys so this one uh... it says it just has a really slow warm-up time like unusually long it took five minutes for warm-up uh... and that's it now before this there is another main board which he sent here to me and it but it has problems so uh... we can't figure that one out so i'm sliding right off the table and uh... thanks everybody for joining us today this has been so much fun just to get started here i was uh... i actually got home for my trip late last night i had a flat tire on my car that was uh... left here and uh... yeah i ran over a nail when i got out of town or before i left town somehow thankfully i was just able to fill it up and ride around it's slowly leaking i'm gonna have to go get that fixed i had to change the tire on the side of the crossbroxons pressway oh my gosh my wife's inside the car i pulled off in a spot where there was a lot of extra room she's freaking out because you know she's the only time she said that happened she's called triple a and me at the opposite like i probably changed twenty tires on the side of the road in my life if not more but for me it's just like ah good thing you know i'm gonna get my hands dirty and wash the steering wheel when i get home because i got a tire on it now and shit but i didn't have any problems with the safety factor of it i was just like nah we're fine yeah okay, powering it on i heard it you know i heard the typical ball normal start up looks like we got going on the screen so we'll see here if it just are you seeing anything? no okay so maybe still going through that that cycle we'll see day and be you had a flat yesterday too yeah i don't know what's going on sometimes those things happen uh in groups that's funny i was listening to somebody who said it like a weird statistic is if you get fifteen random people in a room together there's a fifty percent chance two of them have the same birthday so there's a weird fact for you hey koala yeah plate fork has only seen it on arcade tubes it's it could be very common for arcades to have bad flybacks and bad flyback caps and all that stuff and thank goodness you could still relatively go in easily and get you can get those anode cap replacements for the majority of those old sets uh it looks like it's still taking the warm up time so that's at least good it didn't good and bad uh... eric test nomad yeah this is by far my most used console even though i don't know if you could see it but the middle of the screens all messed up it's still the one i use the most for this exact reason i get gregg's uh... battery pack on the back i think uh... the might have a second more more fancy revision coming out soon uh... i think he's going to be selling these but the other one might be a little more expensive but that's pretty awesome uh... i'm actually waiting for oleg to release his newer board for this uh... and i'm waiting for two reasons one because i want to have an original nomad screen that actually works just to have it because his board's a no-cut mod uh... so i'll buy that off of somebody who's upgraded but i also want his mod on it so i can actually see the screen yeah i was going to ask i was like that's pretty much a thing that comes up yeah i see it okay well um... that one i mean it didn't take as long it probably took three minutes but it's so it's definitely what i would think it's still that same same issue um... so yeah until i would uh... i mean you could definitely go in and adjust the colors i don't know like here's what i mean if you want to if you can handle use it the way it is for till next retro world expo we could literally absolutely good we could do that kit at the booth again and the heck we could even try like bringing in and doing a color probe calibration on it after that yeah and because that's a monitor is going to be a a test monitor for me and then if we get it mint i might actually use it as a monitor or i guess sell it but um... probably not sell it to be honest with you this is probably just going to be one of those monitors i keep forever uh... because i mean i do always prefer the bigger 20 inches but you know i could pick this one up over my head hung over with no sleep and not even blink an eye whereas those 20 inches some days my old back just doesn't really feel like a budging when i go to pick it up so uh... it does it is very handy to have a smaller crt around for testing even if you use other stuff and yes i know i know i could just get uh... vga crt monitor and use my eight inch pvm and still have all of the multi function use for it but the whole purpose of this was to have something actually i can even just show y'all let me uh... we'll uh... we'll we'll put it up together so you can see the the full setup of a sweet so i'm going to stand up here nice all right so i'm going to pull this down so i have more room to slide it in and we'll get this sucker up on the shelf and go from there but yeah the the purpose of this is to have it in a spot like that so i don't i don't have any issue just letting it warm up and use it and then if someday we could repair it now i have a really awesome monitor that i could bring places if i needed to well that man that looks like it's going to fit just right in there the funny thing is i got to get it under this lift here you probably just see in the back of my giant head and not the lip or anything but try and see if i can wiggle it in to show you because it was in here a minute ago so ariel i think we're all old now man i don't know i got like i said i uh i don't like lifting a bunch of crt's either there we go there you go it's just getting those the front and rear feet but yeah you got the feet to the front bit then everything fits absolutely perfect let me uh slide that cardboard over a good 1405 is like the best one to use for this purpose though because it's way more reliable than that and it doesn't have the sink issues that the bvms do no not that uh the d9h yeah i love that monitor and hate that monitor equally yeah right it's uh it's kind of a strange enigma all right so i'll leave this here i can put this back i will just mail you that other board i'm sure you can probably recap it and put it in a different dvm at some point all right yeah well or yeah it's fine or just hold on to it till next time doesn't matter there it'll be great nice now let's uh i'll drop you all back down sorry for the cranking and now let's take a look that's cool the other one all right all right yeah so i'll give you a little backstory on this one this one i have done a couple videos on a long time ago uh this one is so it did survive a house fire believe it or not it's got the melted hand prints in the top which i don't really under it's just crazy how that melted like that but it did um i just did a video painting it rgb modding it fixing the rgb mod and then uh other things i can't even remember how many times i did i think that a bunch of rats got into it at one point i had to clean them all out oh i cleaned it out at least so it's not so what's going on this whole time i'm taking my face and breathing in ratchet now i'm kidding no that was one where i actually went out and like posed out the whole crt and uh used all kinds of cleaning chemicals on the back and inside that was the point of that video is that they'd gotten into it all right let's see so is it missing a color or something didn't you have the bar the buttons over here yeah i will let's say here there's standard all right looks yellow all right now hang on gotta be on the input which i painted over all the controls very far down on this that would have sucked if i just blared in my ears i didn't even know why no that's intended to video here we go so notice problem with this image i mean it just looks bright blue it's only blue very blue yeah okay all right well something happened huh let me uh and this was working great and the only thing i do is pick it up over my head and put it on the tables and i'm generally pretty uh yeah i don't bounce it around let's just say we'll have to see something hopefully oh i can all i see is like you say it just looks like blue no other color the blue man so i see some yellow i see some blue i see some reds in it but it uh let me turn down all right so let me adjust the camera here so you all could okay i do see some now yeah wow it looks extremely bright let me uh put that down wow see a red and blue yeah so that that is exactly what i'm seeing in person that weird washed out issue okay okay all right well we'll have to open it up so i guess i think the first thing we should probably try and i'm gonna leave this dim i know this is probably going to be annoying for people watching but uh at least you be able to see the screen and i'll i'll make it brighter once we go back to actual testing i think what i should do next is try a composite video right sure yeah well i can't remember the metals out that's a good way to stab yourself in the hand i'll throw this out get another one well so this one was like fully serviced and stuff wags mike yes about turning down the g2 i don't think the g2 would randomly shoot up like that more than likely some soldering thing on the rgb connector popped off or something maybe my guess is it's something super simple and as soon as we open the back we're gonna go oh that's it but let's hope wouldn't be more fun doing that on stream so that's why yeah let's try this composite see composite looks perfect right perfect so you know what's funny is i usually say composite on a crt is excellent this tv's composite sucks and the first time i powered this on on stream i was making fun of steve because i hadn't seen it working yet i was like oh good job steve you gave me a fucked up monitor as soon as we turned it into rgb mode it looked absolutely beautiful that stream like you could hear my reaction on stream i was laughing hard like wow what a difference but yeah this is one of the rare moments like my 20 inch sony and 20 inch panasonic really great with composite and i in fact this uh sony was the one i was showing on stream on saturday with the master system stuff whereas this one yeah pretty bad that looks like so i could see the blur i could see the blur so bad from back here in the color bleed so i am going to start to pop it open my guess is we're going to find something very obvious and very easy with the wiring but if not that's why steve's here so and uh i'll turn the brightness back up so y'all could actually see what i'm doing and not just see a dark a dark corner all right guys if we have anybody joining in late uh thank you for showing up and joining us today as we work on bob's crt's we started with a pvm and now we're on the samsung and we'll wait for um there we go looks like our focus is coming in good on that thing you can see it it's cool looking set i always liked that uh yeah and if we page on but let's let's pop open that other bvm just uh um just to show people okay because shank wasn't even asking about that in fact let me message him now um thanks company just came out with a pretty awesome thing i got to write the post when i'm done with this but it's a a replacement for snes controllers that uh allows you to hook it directly up to a game cube really cool i'm just having a time to write the post um yeah so you're gonna want to tell there's two screws also holding that scart input in to the back you'll have to undo those two screws and the uh four black screws in each corner one in each corner one of those is a dummy hole and then one of them i think it's the other you see how there's like the handle it's in the middle of the handle there's a i can't see shit to be honest with you let me uh grab a flashlight i was just sticking it in and wiggling it around yeah salvator cool man yeah we was we had a good time at retro world it's always great there's a lot of people came up i really enjoyed speaking with everybody uh i was really blown away with how how much action was going on at the booth the whole weekend i was said i couldn't hang out sunday as long but i had a great time when i was there saturday hey barcode world isn't the biggest expo but it's like um i don't mean to insult anybody by saying this anybody in other regions but i found it to be quality over quantity you don't get as many people but you the people that you get actually want to be there so you get to meet some really awesome people and the the vendors this year were great they're always great but last year i think they were a little bit uh funny with their pricing some of them not all this year they were better but it's still all expos cracked me up because all expos will have the same thing you'll walk over to one booth and see one game at a really fair price and in mint condition and another game at like that's crazy who would pay that much for it and then you walk two booths down and it's the opposite the game that was a really good price is astronomical and the game that was way overpriced on the other booth was normal priced i always wondered like i asked um ms debon steve from uh brooklyn video games if you know does he pay attention to that stuff he does that on purpose and he's they're very much like no the price is the price you know we try to give good prices for everything we don't play those games at all but i wonder if anybody else does bob before make sure where people like intentionally um make sure you unscrew that scar input prices yeah i'm gonna use the soft foamy thing to put on the glass so i could put it down and pull off well make sure you unscrew the two screws that are holding the scar input when you tip tip it up you see those two silver screws that might be what that might be what i'm still stuck on because we had the two dummy holes with no screws in them we had the two on top that i did remove the screws these two on the bottom so the only ones that i could see left are the skirt ones is there any i don't think there's any on the back other than that and then there might be um some clips you have to unclip to get that and i'll show you where those are i can see him from here looks like one of them might have popped off for the skirt ones oh that's cool barcode he said he uh he said he took his pvms to that save on pat and uh they were talking about us all i it's been it's been a couple months since i've talked to pat actually probably since i was working on your pvm was the last time in the shop when you were at the expo did you get a chance to see the wrestlers at all i did see gangrel at his uh booth no i'm i didn't see like the i didn't see the crew that comes in they are so good and i i happened to walk over this year there was one little girl on the front row definitely not 10 years old younger than that and she was so into it and like the guy who's one of the main guys in this group always likes to play a heel and he's so good and he sees how into it she is and she's dressed up in cosplay and so he uh he bring he has the little guy who's fighting to bring him over to her and the little guy runs over and points at her he goes hey kick him in the shin so this little like seven year old girl runs up and the big dude just totally takes a hard fall it was amazing and the mom of the little girl is crying laughing so hard getting the whole thing on video and the girl goes to sit back down and she's like talking to him yelling at him for the whole rest of the show the match it was so funny they were so good i'm always really impressed with that crew i tell him every year too i was like here's that fat guy coming to weirdly talk to us again but every year i'm like you guys are so good don't stop doing this all right bob's gonna get this off and see what kind of nightmare we have going over here wiggling and jiggling uh it looks like there's another jack up here let's see is there an audio or something oh yeah there is i'm sorry that is an audio jack i've completely forgot about that so you might not get some more slack to it okay cool yeah i forgot about that one actually so that can be like unscrewed too just it's got a simple thread that's for oh yeah like scart and then it's stereo out instead of i think that the uh something happened with the speaker on that tv and it stopped working so i i rerouted it so you could out put out audio from the scart oh so the speakers don't work on this i don't think so i don't remember i don't think they do or something something like that that's why i think you didn't hear anything when it was buzzing or when it was on gray and uh the volume was turned up i'm not sure well anybody see where that uh screw went i'll have to find that one later i guess damn okay so uh so the first thing is yeah look over that thing and see if anything looks like it's loose because it's if i could zoom in uh to get a shot judgment time here yeah this was an old this was a mod i did goodness gracious a long time ago let's see how it looks all right i gotta switch over to uh i love my gh5 camera but going back and forth between um auto and uh auto focus and manuals not always the best let me uh yeah this is doesn't look like your new work but there's nothing wrong with it yeah that's that's like um there are two components that are touching but not where they're exposed but that's always a good place to start yeah that is and just make sure everything's still connected you know what's funny too is i was just getting ready to sell this one because i got those others that match my room a little bit better and i was like oh i want to oh wait and one of them came off one of them just came off that was probably it okay i think that might be the issue i hope that's the issue that would be really that would make sense i could have i might have just pulled it off though when i was moving them around so i don't know i don't know i bet it i bet it shifted in this done that or i don't know because there's points there and then it goes to that switch on the side and then it goes over into the chip so this is why i love my setup here um you know these metal racks are ugly as shit i do not like the way they look i can't afford a beautiful custom job but look how functional this is i just reached in and flipped on a switch and now my soldering irons heated up and if i wanted to i got the scope next to me i got boxes of all my soldering equipment right here i usually have a bigger table here but my d32 is on it so this is why i love this setup it's um it is ugly but holy crap is it functional yeah it is functional and it's not that ugly actually someone was asking here look at this um grail you're asking about good recommendations for scarp breakout pcb i actually got just sent two prototypes for that from sunthar um and i don't know much about it yet i haven't done the job it's coming up i've got an arcade monitor i have to do before i work on it but i'm about to install this kit uh on a two different or it's like a generic kit uh with a pcb and a scarred input and a bunch of components that you need for that so and funny enough i think i might have a nine p t 60 that might be the one i'll use besides the first one i'm gonna do is a 36 inch kv with that kit while bob's doing that i'm gonna go let me go see if i can find that kit yeah i'll put this back together and uh the other thing i was interested in as well is ludo sent me a couple of kits and i didn't know if there was what's the best one to use these days so when uh if anybody in the chat has suggestions but i'd also like to ask steve's opinion um because that's going to be kind of interesting to see is there like is it the old school by hand method is still the same is there ways of tapping into the jungle chip um a little bit easier is that what's the correct thing well yeah there's it depends on the set really because some of them have some amazing um amazing places like easy stuff to install places so like uh this is a sunthar kit while bob's working on this stuff i'm gonna let's see i'll show you what it looks like real quick i'm also gonna look for that screw real quick so okay excuse me a little crawl around so this is you want me to angle the camera down only fans dot com for now i'm kidding actually i switched over where it's just me on camera right now so i'm showing them this board and then i'll switch back to you so this is the board i got one of them from sunthar and the cool thing about it is now this could be any build out because there's a bunch of uh you know you've got different resistor values here but the cool thing i think about this is you can mount this easily your scar input and it's got a nice board here instead of all that wiring junk you just saw that broke that won't happen and then the back end of this is a nice connection point where you can connect in just your cable and it you know it cleanly pops out like that and you've got a nice kit right here this is again it says sector if you can read that at all let's see get in there sector dot sunthar dot com so i've not tried this yet but that will be coming um you sent me a bunch of them and then there's another build out where it's like a little if you don't like that you could use this little rgb build out where it's like an eight pin den instead of the uh scart connector so that's just what that looks like there as bob has this thing hooked back up yeah very easy let me know when you switch back over and uh yeah we're back on um so i'm gonna reboot the test suite into that pattern too okay and so look for that that's definitely something that's coming soon um i'm interested to see that because that will be so much prettier and that might be another thing uh yeah you have to go back and try out i mean i could probably if this if this thing that bob has right here doesn't work we may be able to send him this kit and he could swap it in oh here we go no no so but there's it's something like that shit that sucks moving any of that stuff that's not high voltage the connections anywhere down in the i'm just wiggling all the connectors now too without getting close to the high voltage uh and i'm not seeing anything change at all no i'm not seeing anything change either but the good news is it has to be something with the mod because the osd still looks fine yeah it is with the in my view where does it the osd supposed to be blue yeah it is blue normally i might have to pull the whole board out starting i mean to be honest um as much as this red tv is really awesome it doesn't match everything else in here and the other one that i have has an s video input and a composite input so the other one's going to be better for me anyway so other than messing around in the stream for fun i think i'd rather spend the time to uh mod that other one with um a new rgb kit yeah just have one with tons of functionality because remember as much as i enjoy games i uh my favorite game is the 240p oh yeah it's still working so see yeah definitely modded some some some is either shorting um on the board or the chip probably or i'm not sure because that'll looks normal yeah oh that the sound doesn't work though yeah i don't know how that like quit out uh and never never it stopped working one day it never came back and i kept trying to trace down the problem and i couldn't figure out what it was uh i'm sure you try a different speaker right yeah weird i tried uh you know i tried a lot of different things that's crazy that that uh thing wasn't just that part that came undone the only thing that i'm i'm kind of confused about and it must have done this before so i'm not you know it's probably not it but as the does this menu always come up when there isn't composite video plugged in and was that messing with something somehow it's hard for me to remember i think it i think that will come up if you don't have anything connected but i can't remember this is uh if the sink is connected to composite video on this line that would also kind of make this thing go away wouldn't it does it go away when you put in a signal yeah so here is rgb scarts connected and that's well see that's like jumping around and then now it's not jumping okay now let me oh that is still there now we're still very blue oh goodness you want to discharge it and pull the whole thing apart we could certainly try that but it's up to you what do you think everybody let me also just um let me very carefully very carefully uh uh spin it around and i'll unplug it while i do this but um let me take a look with a flashlight on the inside and see if there's anything else that kind of jumps out at us because that almost feels like a short then you know yeah making like five volts of shorted into one of the video lines probably the blue video line or something let me yeah that's what it looks something like that so one of the things people had asked me quite a bit over the years are are these rgb mods reliable and my honest answer is it depends on a lot of things like if it's a tv that was about to die anyway no it's not going to be reliable because the tv is about to die anyway but also who did it right that one that uh the tv that cruise modded like 70 years ago um the guy who bought it walked over to the booth at uh at retro world and was like yeah it's still running great so really it's you know it all depends on who works on it so it's not like you know this is probably a tv that was on its way out and we're probably gonna end up troubleshooting other stuff but well the board is not that great right and survived a fire but i think that um something yeah i don't know i well i can't see exact i could see kind of where that's going into this was the wrong it would be really hard for anybody in the camera to see it you're like via camera to see it anyway it like a helmet i'll put the camera in here in a moment but i also just want to do my own little visual and there is nothing visually wrong with this at all um because what this was actually the way you shouldn't do the mod anymore anyway because this was the old school where we thought it was the good thing to pull the legs on the chip up and then put your lines right there and inject in and out of there as opposed to trying to find another spot which now you don't do that with the chip because it can can damage the chip if you want steve i could send you still pictures yeah that's fine that way that might actually work better for the you know my camera just died or my battery in this thing just died son of a bitch give me one second uh i think that might actually be better for the chat anyway because you could zoom in as you'd like and it's uh yeah i could do that there's also a point okay i believe that mod might go under the board so there's a point there's might be it could be where the wires on the bottom of the board are shorted too i think that that is how that mod works one side goes to the chip and then one end of where those um one end comes out from the chip one end comes out from the bottom of the board and goes into that switch all right that's a good picture cool picture of that and and just for fun i'll include a picture of the uh scar connector okay and if you can lean the set forward and try to take a picture of the bottom of the board so i could see if i don't know if that's going to be hard hard for you or not no it'll be fine um we'll see if there's anything looks suspect there all right while these are uploading i will uh put the sucker over i don't have any clue what this thing is but somebody used this as packing material and now i've been using it for like i'll put a console down on it when i need to unscrew a console so it doesn't scratch like so uh yeah whoever uh if by by the slim chance that whoever i bought that thing off of is watching this thank you very much for including some awesome packing material because now i could use it for tons of stuff yeah that's handy it's not too big work that ships a lot of stuff that when you receive a package you get excited about the box that it comes in yeah and last picture and then i'll send them over to you steve if you want to show the yeah there's nothing on the bottom there's nothing in there no all right well never mind then i guess i was wrong all right but this will now let me just send these pictures over to you yeah see the other one i did a uh it was kind of the same thing with where like you said the very first sony i did a rgb mod a customer kind of wanted it and i was like look man i'm not going to charge you really much of anything i charge him like a hundred dollars for it and it had been fully recapped because i was like i don't know about this one and eventually it had an issue with the sink line on all both every input just died uh and so i was like yeah it was just kind of time for that thing to go away nobody wants to invest a bunch of money into it all right got these pictures coming through guys that very first picture came out okay i could take uh any more pictures in any let's see way that you would like them all right oh i see yes it is coming out from that same thing all right let me try to get these try to get these pulled down now that's not really what i want here's what i want okay all right everybody let's see if we can get these photographs pulled up on this and yes see so that might be too that's where the mod goes in uh so you can see how what i did was i put the rgb in blanking right there uh under those heat shrink tubes heat shrink tubing that's where it goes off into the chip or to the switch and then right under that is where it goes from you can see blue green red and and sink so that i put those back in the hole after i pulled the chip so you'd have the only thing you can do is check the solder under there where that is but you could tell actually this set wasn't recapped bob i can see that now okay um that first picture is like i would think it would be somewhere in there i did wiggle those wires though yeah nothing i wonder if they're under wait what here is this what's this line yeah let's see what about there's it looks like there's a jumper inserted here that i did something with i don't know what that is that black line to a white yellow line right there gosh i can't remember looks like i cut those and redid them at some point hmm let me check the next picture out here i mean i'm here so let me just plug this thing in and i'll plug it back and try to wiggle all that stuff around one last time okay and then and then i'll you know i'll probably just box it up and put it in the garage okay and give it to you the next time i see you or if anybody wants to i up for basically nothing knowing that it's a composite video monitor that you need to re re rgb mod it that's cool too right look at this was uh so this is the switch where you would send rgb blanking from the sink or from i'm sorry from the uh scart and instead of the osd and that's how it would go from that switch when you hit the switch it's just two-way switch see that i mean it's all looks fine that part it's definitely big old school work i used to do goodness all right let's see this was the there's the composite video and ground nothing there this is why it's so much better the only other thing about this is i just i genuinely don't remember if the um on-screen display was always heavily blue tinted like this yeah because it could be the osd chip is gone and that's that could be part of the issue that's true let's see let's see that goes up and that hits the ground that goes yeah so this is actually the best screen i could possibly use let me get this back to uh the other setting yeah see there it is a blue again so that's just the everdrive yeah anybody that has one of these knows that's just a black sorry guys so that's the easiest way to tell something's wrong um and let's see let me just wiggle all of these wires to tell but here on the switch i'm gonna take it sorry i don't know what this thing's discord just did something and this is obviously the same nomad and rgb scarp cable that we just used on the uh um on the other monitor so we know that the colors and everything are okay although let me just see what happens if i grab a sync on composite video cable who knows maybe that'll give us a clue to something or maybe it's just gonna do the same shit my discord stuff went all crazy for a second so hang on anyway i don't know what happened i opened up that file and it just started going crazy started opening up my entire inbox here and now i can't get it to go away right so i had to take you yeah mckillor um i think this one steve do you have a video of you fixing this to cross reference or is this this was uh before you started doing the videos on the heavier side i do um man i was sorry i need a second i don't know what a heck i've done to this darn um hang on all right i think i got it back golly same thing with sync on composite by the way it's going crazy it's just reversed my camera now awesome here we go what's going on here oh okay there we go i think i got you back finally good god bless god bless the free programs that act up for you a little bit all right let's see here you wanted to see a video um the last one you know it is kind of funny if i connect a sync on composite cable to the scarp port it feeds composite video through yeah but because it's not plugged into the front port it still thinks that there's nothing connected yes that i don't believe that always would turn around gosh i knew it would turn up if you had it on that input it had nothing connected but it shouldn't yeah that's man it's hard for me to remember damn um let's see let's go to oldest i'm looking for a thing like okay wait wait wait i mean there's quite a few videos but they're like four years old uh on my channel let's see so i don't know which exactly one because there's one where it had vertical collapse that i had to fix and trying to see the most recent one because i did the video after i moved so it would have been two years ago would have been i don't know what i just did did just power off i think i powered it off through the menu that's weird it's weird let's see if i can find that most recent video on it and i'll drop that in the um chat for a second gotta be getting closer now here we go welcome back to the retro tech let's see i found it all right and if anyone looks at this i'm going to drop this finally in the chat let's go over here too so this is the that's the video that was on it most recently if anybody wants to look at it and come back and see but i don't think i think that's just going to show you what it all looks like really up close and how i cleaned it and things um bob maybe writes something may have happened to the chip when i originally did this mod it i did have to replace the jungle chip with a replacement jungle chip oh are you seeing this uh i see a scrolling off in rgb mode it's glowing blue the uh okay what's going on there's nothing connected to this tv right now and when it's in rgb mode there's a blue tint and when it's not there's a black tint and back so and there's nothing at all connected okay all right so this one lost cause for today not forever for today because this is gonna uh that would require us getting in and basically redoing the rgb mod yeah which um yeah and it might be something else got damaged yeah that's where i put my phone thing is ash in the chat he always fucking steals that whatever i need no he hasn't been here today must be busy oh man where is it i just at least it's not the charger for my camera like last time that was like laugh but yeah that was something let's see 1615 huh let's see video i was doing i'll go back and check it out okay well here the back ready it's so funny what the hell i don't know what i could have done with it that's outside of the my range of view here i haven't stepped out of a five foot radius that's what i always lose stuff does it fall behind something oh it fell behind something ah got it yeah that's so the only other monitors um like i have those two 20 inch consumer grades i would definitely like to do in rgb mod at some point um but other than that the only other one i have that's uh not currently in you know near perfect shape is that other d9 and since we're here we might as well just uh you know it's only been an hour and 20 it's not too long of a stream so maybe we take a look at that just to even if it's basically just confirming what we already know so other people might have an idea if something like that happens to them yeah um yeah i was looking back at that and it looked like there was some the there might have had some scorched spots on that bottom side of that board so i don't know maybe that maybe there's something going on under there just needs a closer look at trace or something i'm not sure um because when i looked back at that video and that's again that's about two years old on that video um not surprising survived a fire well i mean if it's any consolation when the rgb mod worked it looked phenomenal yeah that's a that's a that's the only part uh the tube probably could be used for something i bet it um if somebody had an arcade that was like a 20 inch arcade it might fit in there if it worst case scenario because the tube is so good before i put it together let me um let me take pictures of the label on the tube and send them to del yeah because i bet you he might know if there's an arcade machine that'll work with this let me set this aside the pictures right here because if del says oh no that's the perfect monitor for this thing i'd rather just drop this thing off to him yeah and uh you know and then just have have del hook me up with a favor afterwards yeah because i know some of those are good for that and this was 13 inch or 20 this was 20 yes that's a 20 inch just can't find good crt text how can i even rec recommend myself look at this that's why i gave bob this one for free as a gift i remember what did you end up doing with all the 14 inches were you able to to sell those or i still i i have them here uh i've i've not really done much with them yet i don't think there's because all of them had something unique about them to make it you know make it a worthy trade and that you know you could definitely rgb mod a couple of them some of them already had features that people might want to buy and because they're 14 inches you could actually ship them and they might possibly arrive without too much damage on them yeah i've been actually speaking with my there's a lot of these there's a lot of these antique malls around here in this town and uh i'm i'm seriously tempted to open up a booth there and see how that goes so i can maybe put that if people wanted to come into town for some reason or we're passing through this area they knew and they wanted to go stop by a place and look and i'd have a couple crt's for sale they could just pick up and leave with yeah it makes sense kind of like a game store too i'd put anything else i needed for sale there just get it also give me some space but i don't know i've never done that but i don't think it's too tough to do just jam it you might watch it might be that cable or something let me double check there wasn't a wire there but i think that's just a a clip no there was no wire there at all there's a clip that needs you got to snap it into place that's why i was just kind of whacking it a little bit when in doubt whack it oh goodness oh wonderful stuff here let's see what i've got behind me um let's see if i can throw some oh here we go i'm gonna get you guys a little little action here when bob's bob's working on that i was working on that let's let's see all right so bob did you hear about the two radios that got married oh fuck's sake the reception was fantastic my uh my niece loves dad jokes and every time she comes over she brings the book he wants to start reading jokes and every time i've never once laughed and i always tell her i don't think these are funny you need to learn what it's like to be in a room of people that don't think you're funny because i'm that guy 99% of the places that i go people do not like my sense of humor you need to learn when it's the right time to tell this joke and she gets so mad she's like i can't understand why i don't like it that's a skill that you're gonna need to learn very quickly in life yeah that's uh that's what i was laughing usually i tell these jokes and of course i'm just settled about there to blank airspace it's just like to try to get you know usually it takes like 20 minutes to get the stream where people finally figure out it's going on and so i'm usually like oh before i actually do my hard work i'm gonna tell some dad jokes and you could skip past these later because my kids bought me the probably the same book that you have to get read to uh over 350 cringy bad dad jokes yeah it's doing the same thing it's lighten up oh you know c plus for effort here it's not it's not any worse it's fine it'll go right in my garage oh it's here it's just a winner i was laughing because after retro world this year i was like oh my garage is only gonna have one crt in it that vga monitor i'm looking to sell the one from the um rgb on vga monitors video it is a brand new monitor in the box other than the two hours i used it to make that video really this is my yeah my handy little trick right here for anybody the old antenna holes you just put a twist tie around it and that's a really great way to secure the cable so it doesn't flop around especially on bigger crt's or if you trip and fall with it you might break a body part so uh let me let me move this over and i'll grab the other one but yeah that vga monitor is awesome and you know as i showed in that video one of the biggest things if you're doing uh scan lines with a 240p on a 480p monitor you just need to turn the brightness up but the problem is so many of these monitors have you know thousands and thousands of hours of use so they won't go bright enough and that's you know even though they're still super sharp monitors you're just not as bright so that's one of the reasons people might want this one it's just because it's you know it's not the world's greatest monitor but it's brand new even with scan lines on you can't turn the brightness up all the way so this is a it's a perfect thing for somebody who's got an osse or a retro tink 2x and also wants a mix of like dreamcast and gamecube at the same time now what uh what brand is that one was it a del ibm 17 inch okay yeah those are good doesn't do anything you can't do like you know can't do crazy refresh rates yeah it's not a shank monitor it's uh but if you're like i have a dreamcast and gamecube and original xbox but i also want to play a couple other things on it as well then absolutely perfect or with the uh yeah with i mean you could pair that with a mystery you could pair that with a yeah that's the other thing too you you if you just pair it with a mister even with the hdmi out to one of those cheap eight-dollar adapters that i was just talking about you could plug that directly in add the scan lines and mister i had that whole live stream i did on that and it'll come out beautiful now you have a 17 inch zero lag crt yeah that you didn't pay a thousand dollars for right yeah i mean i'd probably let that go for like 400 bucks that's the thing i don't know people like the conditions that's that's big for the the vg ac rt it's hard uh some of them do have hour trackers and i got extremely luckily lucky with mine because it only had like 2000 on it but that's still not new um no a lot of these literally a lot of these are in that video is it a lot of these were put into businesses just like the pvbs and bvbs but they would have been left on with a computer display on them the whole day so order different things but they were definitely running a lot you know a screensaver so it didn't burn but the old school screensavers would have been just running on that thing all day racking up hours wags mic i did paint that shell and as if you go back way way back in the way back machine to four years ago if you go to my channel and you go to the oldest videos you'll find those you'll see the red crt paint job video pretty soon that's what i was scrolling through so this is a ghetto hacked version of a power adapter steve from hd retrovision let me borrow but we did test this yeah that's awesome we tested this with the official adapter and we also tested this adapter with the good working d9 so this is not the problem that's the good thing because that one uh doesn't take up all the bulky space of the ac adapter did you take all the cards out yeah is it jumping a little bit but at least it's working let me take the um bezel off and you know what um just because all you people are awesome and you've been so nice to super chat steve i'll uh you're now the only the second group of people on the entire planet to see what i'm about to show you i will uh i'll show you just out of courtesy because you're all freaking awesome so all of these oh and it's doing the focus thing too yeah that's what all of these come with a 16 by 9 bezel because by the time these were made it was mostly hd resolutions so the four by three bezels sell for stupid amounts of money so there are replacements coming and the replacements the main replacement will look very very close to this you can't get it perfect because we're not doing injection molding we're doing pressure molding okay so it'll look good it won't be two tone there won't be like the black insert but i have i've had a couple prototypes here i sent them back with my list of changes and now let me just pull this thing off sorry here is one of the special editions that will be released that looks so cool i love that check that out look at that first time to see it you know i uh i forgot gosh i forgot to uh yeah i think that like maybe quarry for my life in gaming is really wanting one of these if i remember correctly i can't remember these will be coming out there looks so awesome look even god i think you might have missed it or people probably might not have seen it as much go back down there you can see it's got the sony emblem yeah and and because it's completely clear you're actually seeing the writing that's on the inside of the bezel because when uh when work does his molds you get everything you get the inside and the outside of it so that's why you're seeing all this stuff so on the on the regular ones it's basically going to be this color but all that color and you'll still you know and so it'll still look good and everything but it'll just be stock looking which is fine you still get the sony logo and all that stuff on there um so it's not going to be a 100 exact replacement but it's certainly going to be better than the 3d printed ones and i'm not throwing shade against the 3d printed ones i'm a massive fan of 3d printed everything it just the fact is they never look as good as injection molding or pressure molding um and there's another one working for fun i can't remember if it was you or core you said they wanted it but uh i think that's what i said i think it was recorded atomic purple yeah yeah there you go you got your uh 90s fix hey tony good to see you yeah uh the prison pvm there you go the prison bvm actually braille yeah these will most likely be for sale by the end of the year and excellent good to hear they will not be the same price that you pay for the official four by three it's not even close not even that not even remotely close those sell for hundreds and i think these are going to be less than a hundred um i'm sure they will and they look really really good so that blurriness is exactly what i'm seeing here yeah and more turn this up the blurrier it gets doesn't it is it is it always blurry or is it snapping back into blurry is it like no now it's always blurry so i should pop it open and see what's up you can or you could send uh yeah it looks like it's always bright it's not like oh it's getting worse and worse yeah and then it'll pop back into no this one's not doing the popping maybe after a minute it will because usually it was doing it much faster than that where it would like snap and then uh oh you're right it's coming back there you go and it'll do that it's like the focus circuit on the flybacks messed up what's up del and we're in focus del showed up del showed up because he's been getting texts from bob he said yeah we were we're wondering about a 20 inch tube if you needed it for a uh if it was possibly or we're not you know if it was possibly a good one uh he sent you some picks uh del i could take those readings or if you wanted i could just drop this thing off at your house the next time i'm down there it's literally just going to go sit in my garage for a while if you don't want it so if you wanted to take a look um you could see if the tube is something that you could use take it and you know boom me a tube at some point uh yeah this is actually looking pretty good now yeah it would see what we could do it would do that and look good for a while and then um start to get squirrelier it seemed longer it would run so we'll see how it goes i think one of shanks friends wanted to borrow this to test some stuff so at the very least i i would think yes he absolutely could use this just to to test some things obviously not sharpness not playing a tournament on but test some new parts sure well the uh leaf those are just specifically for that d9 right now uh because that's one of that's just one that's super super needed there weren't enough four by three bezels made for that bvm specifically so uh it's just for that one clean the focus pin on the neck well we can definitely get the neck board out or you want to clean the focus pin on the neck of the two or not no that would be the tube not in the neck board i don't know if you can get you think it's just the socket on the neck board that would cause that kind of popping could be okay but you got it's going to be hard to find the socket on the neck board for this thing i guess we'll have to try to find us uh i don't know if you were asking who's the seller for the bezel um i don't know who's going to be selling those uh maybe it's steve i don't know we'll figure it out afterwards i want to get him made first um and i will definitely i'm having these on did it just to make sure that they get made because i have a feeling this is going to be one of those things that 20 people buy at day one and there's going to be zero sales for like months and then somebody's going to mention on like a bvm group on facebook like hey you know you don't have to spend all that money you could just buy one of these and then there's going to be another 20 bot and then you know one of those things so probably not something stores are going to want to be super excited about but um but i don't really give a shit i'm not a store i'm bob from retro rgb bitch we're trying to get cool stuff for each other right so that's what we'll share it uh so bob to get to the neckboard you have to go uh you can take on that side yeah you'll have to get some screws off and you'll have to get some screws off the back too and del if you're still here we need to do a stream together soon too um it could be next week i will be streaming thursday too if you got time thursday let me know hit me up with the dm i only use like twitter for dms pretty much so i think i don't know if you get on there very much or uh discord but i don't think i've got you as a friend on there yet so i need to change that but either way uh hit me up and we'll get together for i'll send you another message at twitter yeah delin hit me up on discord because uh discord for me is always better yeah really for dms um so that neckboard right there could be that socket he's saying now to get the neckboard out you have to remove that backpack right behind it right there yeah and to do that you roll it around all gazillion screws on here or yeah most of them turn it around the back i'll show you which ones uh you gotta get the whole bracket right well i think there's a couple you don't have to get but if you if you let me see the view of it i might tell you the exact ones you'd be able to do but it might be all of them i actually already uh reflow the solder on this one before yeah it is gonna be all those pretty much those all need to come out now the the the problem is is there's a focus breakout you'll see in a second on this neckboard that um that may also be bad just the three on the side and then i think the one over on this side yeah and you might i don't know however you can just get that up and out of the way yeah yeah nice nice okay let me put and you can put that yeah by the way just uh for anybody curious that's a magnetically shielded speaker of course i didn't know what that was the huge humidifier or something maybe now there's a cable pack down there you can just release all that and get it out of the way if you want see yeah and then there's one up top too um i actually think i got enough slack with it like this okay now this one you said you already reflowed this board here correct i did but it could be an issue with that i don't know we can pull that off and look at it again but you have to be very very very very careful and then um i'll try to zoom into the back of this board yes i don't think it's like that well it may uh because that side's been me um is any of that solder look like it's not the flux capacitor you can get that uh board completely out um but you do have to unsnap a point at the neck board or i mean at the uh you'll have to undo all those cables trying my best to get it out like there's some i can just pull these right off correct pull them straight up yeah yep just pull that white one straight out of because it's soldered into the neck board pull it straight out of the flyback on the outside there let's go look at that socket now the socket will have some wires going into it too right you have to take the black one out too i believe oh you got it that was easier than i thought all right hang on here all right there we go all right um so that was all reflowed but what i'm gonna uh i'll flip it i'm also just gonna kind of take a look yeah myself with some glasses on and see because it looks perfect right now but you know you know how that goes so yeah it's uh and i don't know if something's up with that socket if something internally is in that socket looks corroded it might be a issue if you look on the where it goes into the tube on the other side of the board no this looks perfect look in the other side see if the socket where you where it goes in if there's anything looking sketchy in there because actually i didn't put any like deoxid or anything i don't know in there i didn't do that but you see that i'm wondering if something happens there's this little weird the focus goes through that weird breakout right there uh that's right no that's the stat that's the h stat the focus goes through the black path so it goes through that weird box right there and i don't know if there's anything wrong with what's inside of that black box i mean this one no i'm sorry the one that's actually that little box right there yes um now we're doing like roger focus to your job we're acting like roger here hey philippe thanks for coming in there we go yeah that thing um that's an odd because that goes right into the focus pen right there into the neck it's only got two weird solder points i don't know if there's anything internally that goes bad with that uh but that's that's kind of what i didn't know that it was that it was the whole focus circuit in the little eye bag but you shoot you already got rid of the other one right so that's the thing again you already got rid of the other d9 yeah i didn't even think about trying to put that other good neck board in there to see if it would have worked with this one if it was just a neck board issue so that's the focus right here this thing yes yes and i pulled that other board out and and reflowed the flyback uh del is asking del is asking to do us uh a close-up of the pin socket side where the pins go into the neck board so you can if you want take a picture and send that of just that to me just like the socket yeah like right there yeah yeah oh okay yeah no problem let me get you that picture all right guys thanks again everybody for showing up today and uh if you can if you showed up late definitely still helps out if you drop a like on the video and it will uh we'll still help people get to see it later too if you come back if you come in now you come back and watch uh we've bob and i've been looking at this is the third crt now um and we've been going for an hour and a half so get to see inside three different levels of crt's you got the message right all right let me check i'm sure i did yes i did okay all right let's do it this way so i can just pull it up and slide just that picture over instead of trying the inbox like i did last time here we go so you've got let's see that's the static focus goes in around here right so it's got h2 h1 g1 green red g2 let me get back and see if i can see the actual chat now all right now i don't yeah it's hard for it's really hard to see anything in there del i think um unless there's a corrosion inside where that black flyback or focus cable goes in bob to the neck socket unless there's something in there but you may be able to pop that plastic back a little bit and out it looks like i can let me try to do that and uh see if if it's all corroded i could try to clean it out yeah maybe that'll maybe we'll get lucky and there'll be something in there but i thought i looked at it but i'm not sure tony i'm gonna get your stuff all packed up today and then uh tony's getting a couple of his he's the one who actually owns the lovely sony kv8 that i added that s video mod too i think i have to take this plastic piece off to get to that yeah that's good all right okay then yeah that's what i'm wondering too if do you have any kind of deoxy we can just try that putting that in the socket too i might i had so much of that stuff and lost it in the move yeah and every time i go to buy a new one i'm like i don't need that i have that somewhere over here and then i'd never find it but i'm going to wait to go down to the shipper till first thing in like the morning here because they usually in the afternoons are a pain in the neck the afternoon shift down there so but they get to go cross country luckily they're small yeah you just get to know the people that workplaces yeah you like yeah well the thing that sucks is when i actually lived in uh tennessee i had a great relationship with the ground shipper like a business and they would uh they worked with every shipping company so they did all of them like not just going into like a ups only or a fedex only and i got a great relationship with them and they would like cover extra insurance on things and anytime i had a problem never had a problem yeah that's what i was wondering about well maybe uh yeah goodness i wonder if um maybe even just a little alcohol but yeah i'm not sure about anything i want to go look for my deoxy yeah okay yeah whenever you get that done just send uh send a picture to del of each side of that neckboard now she got it opened up like that can also check the inside of that socket on the socket side uh bob like that's hanging see if there's any because that will be connected with a solder joint yeah okay yeah there's uh but yeah i had a good relationship with those shippers so it was one of the saddest parts about moving was the fact that here there's no little shipper like that like no shipping stores it's all chains okay sounds good no worries we're good we're all good here check it out um since bob's away and he doesn't actually like the dad jokes maybe i'll tell you one more what do we got here why couldn't the lifeguard rescue the hippie he was too far out man these are bad why don't they play poker in africa too many cheetahs all right that's enough for right now that's three dad jokes i think i still got the dad jokes thing here well dad jokes over with okay so we can we keep some segments going here oh i probably did snuffer stuff or i tried to keep them i tried to now i'm gonna have to mark it off that's probably because it's like the first one why don't melons get married they can't elope why don't cannibals eat clowns because they taste funny my gosh why don't skeletons like scary movies they don't have the guts man these are amazing all right that's terrible oh i know all right thanks action all right so i found deoxy okay we can also jam a little bit of that on the actual pins of the net of the tube or spray a tiny bit i guess because it'll clean the corrosion off there i really won't hurt i'm gonna get some paper towels too maybe we'll have a little look i'll give you another spot we'll get another couple spots deox it will deox the connection points for where it goes into the flyback pull those pins back and deox where it goes into that black weird box on the neckboard itself deox the neckboard neck insert or neck socket for the tube and we'll just see if that kind of clean if there's a cleaning issue and a corrosion issue because that would be the luckiest and nicest thing and i don't know why i didn't want to try this myself but maybe i did i don't remember all right so i'm gonna be a little bit ocd about this because i just don't want to soak my entire room in this monitor and deoxy yeah it's okay right deox it is actually now that i have the paper towel there as a background let me send you a picture of this looks pretty nasty it would be really really nice if this was all it was all right steve sending this to you all right yeah let's see save the photo and it's that one it's not the one we need yeah there's you know definitely some corrosion down there on that pin looks like cool maybe we'll get lucky yeah that's all good bob get at the other end of that black box for those connect into the black box on that if you can like pull these connect yeah yeah open pull those back a little bit see if you can get that out and do each one of those while you're at it let's do it an electronics brush help uh on those uh the neck pins what do you think he's asking if you had a fiberglass pen so i'm guessing yeah yeah i do actually it's something just be careful on those pins you don't want to do it oh my god imagine if i snap one of those pins i'd start crying all right if i was a fiberglass pen where would i be not in the same spot as the deoxy i guess am i in the toolbox or am i in the modding equipment box that's it's always a it's always a conundrum i have a pair of uh hundred dollar cutters that i was going to use for some project what and yeah because because the head hundred dollar cutters yeah manual focus this because they're very strong so they won't the metal won't snap off they're long on the cutting part wow and i bought them for a project because i was like okay i'm definitely gonna need those i've never used them once coal is still coal is still snoring there's definitely a fiberglass pen in here somewhere though i just have to dig through all this other useless stuff i rarely use to get to it let's see he's down there somewhere in the all right well i found some electronics brushes so if i even if i can't find that at least better than nothing see him but i know i have one because i've used it quite a few times it's so funny i put up all these sound gates on obs from epist fox's uh uh tutorial class i bought and i've never had any sound from all the things in my basement come through except my dog snoring somehow beats all the sound gates that is very funny and some people are always like i hear him snore what are these what's going on i'm going to take another minute to keep looking because we came this far yeah it's fine the other spots will be all nice and dried up too it's like sleeping with one eye open too and there let's see i don't think i could zoom wait the fiberglass brushes and sitting right in front of me is it oh you unbelievable moron all right what all right cool when some of you lose some at least i found the brushes too so i could brush off if there's any fiberglass particles left on it so del says using the fiberglass pen spray deoxy on the pens again and then dry with a paper towel dilute del's advice i've actually never cleaned the pens on a tube but makes sense when you're in the arcade environment those things can get super dirty so spray it again after i've cleaned it yeah i guess so that's what he says to do we give it give it a super cleaning i guess that way if you anything you rubbed off with the any particles rubbed off by the pen might get off there better whoops sorry about that folks so there's this guy i don't know if it's getting picked up on the mic now but there's this guy with a car with an exhaust on it i think it's no kind of car was this is like a Nissan a tricked out Nissan or something and when i first moved in he used to come around the corner at like full speed like i always have driven fast and it's like unsafe feeling even for douchebag me who you know likes to drive fast and all of a sudden one day he just puts by at like 20 miles an hour every time he comes by and has done it ever since and i'm dying to know what happened did it was it as simple as he just got a ticket he was like oh okay or was it like one of the parents of the kids in the neighborhood went out and dragged him out of his car like you're gonna kill one of these days and i'm gonna kill you so stop i'm just i was so curious to know what actually happened on that but i guess i'll never know yeah did you did you ever see him driving was he younger uh no that was kind of the weirder thing because i would figure then maybe he got a ticket his parents were like you're losing your license if you do that again but yeah who knows i mean maybe we're unfortunately living a time where uh there's a plenty of people you in my age that never moved out of their parents house never got a real job i had any responsibility so who knows that could have very well been what happened he went home and his parents scolded him something to his room with 40 no meatloaf for you buddy go back to your basement here i am in my own basement a little different Steve all right i am just uh there's a bunch of grease that the deoxy has left on sure yeah just take your time conductive but like it's never a good thing to just leave goo on something nice michael scott moment that's what she said more bad jokes okay putting that back and this goes back on and luckily there's already an outline on the back of this thing so i know where it went yeah let's suck her over well man i've gotten yeah so i drive an old classic car most of the time it might when i go on the trips i drive the supercharged Audi q7 and i go like way too fast sometimes on the highway when i when i used to travel all the time for work i was part of the you know the Hertz rental car fancy pants package yeah so if they were out of cars they would always just give me like the tip top car for for the cheapest price because i was there i was probably averaging once a week there are some weeks i would travel multiple times and rent in multiple places but average once a week for a while there traveling for work and one of the times they gave me this tricked out shelby mustang i thought it was cool and everything but it wasn't as impressive as i thought and supposedly there were Hertz rental car put a limiter in there or anything so you can't get its full power and the the guy the kid that i was working with at the time was like we could hack it and i'm like dude it's my name on the thing no it's a hard no because if your ass breaks it i can't afford to replace it so it was you know it was nice and everything but then maybe a week later they gave me the same situation they were sold out and they gave me a tricked out impala ss but it still just looked like an old person's car so we're driving and uh there was a long stretch of road to get where we were going and i would often drive way too fast but we um we're going there and all of a sudden i looked down and we're doing 125 miles that impala ss was so much faster and so much smoother yeah hilarious to see the uh net board seems like yeah it it it's it's for some reason it just sits in there kind of skew i think sometimes because it's not so it's not like i put it one notch over it wouldn't it only goes in one way right yeah it would only go in that way because it's it's got to be sitting straight up like that so it's in there right looks like it from here yeah uh i am just going to go wash my hands real quick so i don't get the oxid over absolutely everything um all right this will be right i'm going to talk through it too so y'all and if somebody joins they don't think i've uh forgot to take my mic off and i'm peeing never happened to me but uh you know it might someday probably will very lucky to have access to a sink right here too it makes a lot of these mods better because i i don't have to worry about getting grease over whatever it is that i'm modding yeah i have a one of those old big sinks in the basement makes makes it easier that you never clean it's just big and nasty and plastic when i was in high school my room was in the basement and there was no bathroom down there and we had one of those big plastic basin sinks so of course i mean yeah that's what it is i don't want to go upstairs to pee in the middle of the night i used to just go pee in that because like part of the basement was finished and the other part wasn't and a couple of my friends were over and we were you know sneaking beers and i told them to do the same and i would just like pour bleach in the sink every couple of days and and hose it down and it would be fine and uh i forgot to do it one time and my mom comes down we'd all hit our beers and she goes to put laundry in and she's like oh man it looks like our sink's getting yellowed i might have to we might have to get a new one and i was like oh really um yeah i'll clean it might have been that paint we put in it right guys that paint that we were using to clean it so yeah that was uh embarrassing but you know whatever bleach it when you're done well let's call that call that half a bathroom right yeah looking good at least everything's plugged back in the right way right it looks like sure you plug everything back the neck board correctly yeah uh i double and triple checked del and um the the only two that i was really concerned about were these two connectors here but i made sure to not reverse them so yeah i i know that for sure you got those right the whites on the outside yeah exactly you know you know how i remembered did anybody here ever watch modern family yeah there was one episode where they were making fun of the dad for being super competitive and they were at some kind of like family camp or something and they they had uh divided everybody up into teams by color so team yellow team white team red team black and they took an uber home and uh phil the dad's got a got a t-shirt that says white is right uber driver wasn't white and he's rubbing their face like white wins white's in the back because he was just talking about the stupid family picnic thing oh that's funny that show they never hesitated to just absolutely embarrass that guy oh man yeah that's pretty funny so i'm not going to put the case back on but i am going to at least screw down the sideboards and everything just to make sure right because i don't want it to work and then i go to screw these down and it shifts the cable and then now it's not working we don't know why yeah let's see is modern family it's not still on is it no it i don't like to go for a really long time really just annoying after a while but they kept doing it because what are you going to do you know just stop a tv series that's paying a ton of people's incomes on the crew so it's they just kept dragging it on and they had an ending that was fine but the first couple of seasons were absolutely awesome yeah i didn't i just didn't keep watching it i think but uh i watched it a lot the first gosh i want to say five or six seasons i'm sure my favorite episode was when uh mitch and cam were at a gas station and cam was in one of his clown outfit mr fizzle yeah some redneck piece of shit starts fucking with mitch and fizzle the clown comes up behind him and he's like a foot taller than the guy just staring him down the guy's like oh my god i'm gonna die that was my favorite one i left so hard at that yeah that was uh there's some really great good episodes how uh yeah i was uh because i saw i saw it uh like a rerun on some network not too recently and it was must have been one of the last couple of years of it and it was uh uh you could just tell it was older because it was like wow these kids are a lot older than i i'd like any of the other episodes i saw all the kids were like run-ups the sun was just at the older he got the more you realize like wow what a bad actor filed actors from the 80s where they all owed me because they they can't do anything else so uh all right that's a little longer because uh this these two pieces bolt into each other so you have to line them up to get it right that took me a moment there so all right now the moment of truth i guess yeah let's hope let's hope we uh normal standby flashes switches to green should come right on exploding nothing's on fire we should see like no board inserted pop up or something is it on it is on we're getting green however nothing's coming up yet sure everything is a few do you feel static on the tube it's coming off it something's gotta be uh not plugged all the way in maybe you got all the both of the connectors on the neckboard are properly connected yeah let me um maybe the neckboard wasn't on all the way yeah i don't know if i touch the back of the network or neckboard is there any charge in there is it unplugged uh power is unplugged yeah yeah now you should be okay i see it just clicked over i'm not seeing anything on the screen now nothing on the screen but i did hear the little beep so it did initialize but now we got nothing basically oh that's not good well damn it steve i broke it oh you might want to just wait let it sit and then try to come back in like 20 or 30 minutes sometimes maybe there's too much liquid on it or something left i don't know but let me um let me just pop the sides open real quick um unless you're in a rush if you gotta go then no i've still got i've still got like i've got like 15 minutes we can keep going all right yeah that's uh about what i should have to that was it one yeah um all right let's pop the sucker open see what mistake i made maybe i put the wrong screw in the wrong spot or something because some of these screws aren't um well that shouldn't matter but something it seems like something's not plugged into the neckboard because it's not getting any picture data but it's turning on like it's normally working so i don't know if one of those other connections came disconnected from the data port or something or that back core back card when i look into the back of the tube aren't i supposed to see something light up um most of the time if you're getting stuff into it if you're sending a voltage in yeah like that does not feel like it's no that doesn't feel right that's one of the back screws oh my god on this was the easy part dammit all right so that one definitely doesn't go there um everything seems to be plugged in we didn't need to unplug the connector here because i just slid it around i didn't touch any of those and all those things up top are good right where like cugs plugs into the of points down there in the back you're plugged in i plugged the ground wire here that's solid hey shutter mask joy in the day off i hope good to see you here yeah it's not it's not conductive but just not getting any picture data now it happens now yeah you could definitely do that like that it's fine now wait a second bob did you happen to spin the focus knobs at all when we were looking at that because one of them might be this i moved it like a hair what about that does one of them say screen look at the one that says screen because maybe you turned down the g2 voltage and it's just darkening the screen out does the bottom one say screen or the top one i can't remember the one i believe okay so try to turn that up and see if you see any lines in the tube or not no in fact it's kind of glued in place the focus one is the one that's not oh weird because it would seem like that would be a possibility where it just too damn on the tube hmm yeah yeah i don't know that stinks it's not showing anything i figured it wouldn't at least get worse can you power cycle it from the front like from the button does it nothing all right something just flashed at least what about can you do the brightness controls or will that do anything if you turn the brightness on the front nope if i could so um see what happens when i hit did you see it flash just now see it flashed right then like the power coming on and degausing but wouldn't i be able to see something through the clear back of the neckboard while i was hitting power you should be seeing some light come through there nothing hmm yeah you'll just have to bring it over and work with del on it too sometime if you want to look at it sooner hits what he said you know del let me know when you're around man i'll drive this uh i'll drive the red monitor down for you so you can take a look at that and maybe we could just um we could do another live stream all three of us together from your place you could host it del yeah yeah the d9 each curse is right and that's that's for sure let me just take the neckboard fully off again and just look at it you never know oh uh yeah i think i found the problem steve what what happened show you a picture so that you could put this in the chat oh gosh now i'm nervous i also think i figured out what was wrong with the monitor the whole time that was scared uh oh good gracious make sure to zoom in on that and i'll uh oh oh shit damn bob that sucks all right well i didn't do it so i think that corroded and that was the problem yeah that's very possibly maybe it's just the tube itself is so corroded air that it it would be different if my hand slipped you didn't put any pressure on it that i didn't see anything i'm sorry i'm going to pull this up in a second guys i'm just trying to move it yeah over here i've definitely accidentally whacked a neckboard before and it still worked but if it had broken it would have been my fault but yeah the pins are so corroded in there check it out that's why we're not getting anything because the pin pulled straight out there's your corrosion build up right there oh man where my finger and hand gesture is oh so here's the good news we figured out what the problem was yeah now damn just gotta find somebody with a d9 that's not got such a bad tube in it it this tube has 3500 hours of use on it how the hell do you get so corroded man maybe it was by the ocean or something stupid like that yeah i mean it's if that's if that pin is corroded i don't know how you'd go back and because the the tube's not vented so it's literally where it was in the glass molding yeah he says del says there's might be a way he can actually get those pins back in there to work since it's not vented del tell me the time i'm heading down then yeah i would i would love to see that and be able to like into that because i that's crazy and for all yeah intensive purposes that could have been hell another could have been falling off it's just you just saw everybody would bob did he didn't uh he didn't do anything that was really that abrasive or anything actually broke stuff it's today snuffer you know uh anybody that's watched the live streams over on my channel knows that i almost always screw up and i always admit it and almost always laugh i actually don't think i screwed anything up this time i really think that was uh and i have no problem if i did zero problems i will laugh with you you could laugh at me i don't really care that stuff never bothers me mr everybody makes mistakes but i actually think this one was more of a hey we finally figured out what the problem was not so much look at dumb ass bob breaking shit no and del would you take it over there look at all those other pins make sure that hell who knows maybe one of the other pins fell out or something there or that was called this in the original problem or something and then a second pin popped off i don't know would not surprise me in the slightest would not surprise me at all that's crazy but it's that's guys that's good you do get to see like this is really what happens sometimes i mean you like bob did nothing wrong nothing could have really prevented that uh except for just not ever touching it and this thing always had that focus issue from the beginning from the day that it arrived to me it had that focus issue and it was still usable as a test monitor but i could never game on it because the focus would just be way way off so um this is definitely one of those things that you know i'm very happy that we figured out what the problem was um i wish this wasn't my monitor i'm no kidding i wish we were uh i wish i was watching a retro take lives yeah and i am going to put the back on so let me ask you guys a question i am definitely not going to do this all right well here let me put up uh i hope never happens but very plausible scenario what if i put this thing back on with the neck board just kind of sit in here let me see if i could turn this towards you to see yeah i mean you could still hit knock the other pins off i guess but as long as you're not shaking around the neck board it's just sitting right here right and it's not connected to anything yeah so let's say i put this back together with the intent of driving to del's tomorrow right and then i get hit by a meteor and die and somebody comes over and says oh look at all these monitors let me see if they work and plugs it in and turns it on with the neck board like that i don't think anything happens when you do it like that it's not going to just shoot voltage all through the inside of the no it's just like disconnected i think if it would definitely it would definitely uh happen if you had like the anode i've always worried about leaving like the anode cap flipping around on something and then somebody clicking it on but i don't think the 50 50 chance del says del come on man let's do it let's team effort this i'll check out that video later though i definitely want to see that thanks for sharing that i'm going to pull that up actually right now and save it so i don't um oh yeah like oh it's mike yeah this guy knows what he's talking about mike's amateur arcade monitor repair on that channel yeah i've mike fixed my uh the chassis in the sammy video world and he just sent me a a new frame for it so that's that might actually be wednesday's project is buddy lands retro world might uh might actually come over if he has time this week or next week and mount this new crt and the only problem is i think that since i think this frame is going to be perfect except it might not be able to work in 16 by nine mode so all right 69 what an ass i'm sorry in taute mode it's vertically oriented so if that's the case i'm definitely going to sell the sammy video world and if anybody wants it it is nice not to uh not to like obviously hype the thing i'm probably going to sell but it's uh all new buttons um it's neo geo style i figured i could throw an mv1c into it with uh a real game and uh so people if they wanted a sit-down neo geo cab this would be perfect and the one cool thing about this is even though it's going to fit a 24 inch monitor it is just small enough to be able to get through an average house door so unlike the astro cities that you have to take apart to get through a door this will just barely fit but it'll fit awesome yeah i know a lot of people got to be looking for that somebody's got to hit you up for something like that those aren't you know people go to crazy links to get those and they're not going to be in this kind of shape to begin with yeah they're to find a sammy video world that has been completely rewired and fixed by cruise yeah a chassis that was done by mike and uh a brand new monitor that my friend that was the one that we did that live stream on where you you're like oh i think that's an arcade monitor the the rca tv that was in a presentation room for years and basically never turned on so whoever gets this is essentially getting a brand new sammy video world so yeah this is um this is definitely going to be oh and i even put the candy cab coin button the metal addition on it so that's if you wanted to get that printed it's like a hundred bucks alone just to get that done so now uh it's coin one coin two and um the menu or test mode button for uh if you're using original hardware are all wired right on top and it looks just like the coin button it's kind of oh that's right yeah yeah i'm kind of sad that i'm gonna probably have to sell this one but um you know it is what it is i just wanted to go here's how selfish i could be sometimes i want this to go to a good home that any normal person that has to sell something to go i just want to get what i paid for or make a little bit of money off of all the time i spent and i'm more concerned about like who's buying this is it some douche that's just gonna throw it up on ebay in two days and be like here's retro rgb's old old arcade machine three thousand dollars and i'm you know i i don't want that at all so uh i hope oh yeah go to a very good home right yeah yeah yeah that's happened to me a bunch of times before i'm sure it has people basically been like oh i you know i'm so desperate for an rgb monitor i've looked everywhere can you help me out and i'm like yeah you know what here take one of my spares just give me what i paid i'd love to help you out and a month later i'll go searching for something else on ebay and my old monitor will pop up and it's the same guy's screen name and it's at a zero to what i sold it to him for well unfortunately that's yeah that's i mean that's what happens yes these ones these particular ones are not for sale but bob does have a uh comet if you're looking at bob's got let's go for it uh he's got a brand new vga monitor that has uh just two hours on it that was featured in that episode right where you is that the one where you used it's just a rgb on vga monitor okay episode that's the one but i also have two bvms or three bvms for sale oh if you want the d32 you're gonna have to spend exactly what everybody else is spending on it which is a ton of money so i can't imagine most people would want to uh shell out i'll probably be buried with that thing because i'm not selling it for less than value and i'm not listing it on ebay because i can't stand ebay scams but yeah that one's very expensive but i get that um i got a couple of consumer tv's that are absolutely awesome and hd crt uh recapped um jvcd series 32 inch and i got uh at least one eight inch monitor i could probably part with as well so if anybody is interested uh and one vga monitor that's really nice it just has a yellowed shell otherwise is in great condition so if anybody's serious um you know no discounts anymore i've nothing but burned on discounts just market price just like everybody else the only difference is you know you're not getting scammed which not to toot my own horn yeah guess what not a scammer so yeah let's be honest here i don't and i don't i don't feel like this is a bad thing to say any to anyway let's uh we want to be fair for bob and like if anybody who's in my network who's watching right now and has interested in getting any crts and wants to just connect with bob send me a dm through patreon or discord and i know that uh like you'll yeah those kind of people will be pretty much vetted right away but um yeah if you're don't you know uh these are like we're talking about bvms here and and also uh i mean just being able to get a fair deal again if you're looking for a uh that arcade machine is incredible nowadays those things are extremely hard to get and you never know what you're getting hey master safer show that one real quick because that's literally right here so let me try and see nice tube on the floor oh that's what you're working on that's the same video world um the tube that it came with is on the floor with the chassis uh it doesn't fit right um anybody saw that uh mr video i did where it was filled the dedicated mister you could see that on the inside here you could see there was so much space around the tube so that other one that rca tube was the one i was just talking about that's essentially brand new and the chassis that is in the arcade machine now is the one that micri did and then these were all the uh that's the brand new buttons and that's that candy cab coin button that little thing that looks like a coin slot but it actually has the three buttons in it to bring up the menu and coin one and coin two um but yeah it's uh it's in really great condition obviously it's you know you're going to get scuffs on it but it's a metal frame if you really want to repaint it you can but i i preferred to leave it original have the sammy video world logo on there that's cool side totally up to you if you want it but that should be done next week at the latest i hope but that one's going to be a great one especially if you like neo geo because you could just i'll sell it with the mv1c and you could just take it home and start playing there's nothing to do at all no configuration is that's it so yeah that is like you see the thing is that's just so much like bob said thinner you could slip that through i could see what he said where you have to take the others apart the cab is going to be i think sammy video worlds in good condition go for um at least 1500 bucks i know astro city is in good condition um this one's already sold by the way but uh that's going to a friend that i trust very much so i sold it for a lot less than what they're going for but those are going for 3500 bucks now and that's also rebuilt rebuilt chassis handicap coin button all new buttons um just completely restored from an electrical point of view uh it was the one ytan scammed me on you could always tell it's ytan because he put the astro city sticker on backwards yeah left one is supposed to go on the right and vice versa but those go for 3500 um in this in this condition not you know not in the condition i got it for uh so i think the sammy's i don't know why they're not as popular probably because they're just a tiny bit smaller so it's harder to fit two people next to it but i think that would go for at least 1500 bucks yeah i think it should go for at least 1500 bucks yeah not only can you that's uh that's what was in there for the whole time if you watch that um let me uh let me just get that video that shows it uh make sure that is it dedicated yeah there we go um i'll drop this in the chat and if uh if i think that i was gonna say send it to mr sit i don't know that i have ever put you on moderator because i don't i have to do that through my phone so if you uh del my dream was to have two matching astro cities maybe one new astro city and one astro city or something like that and then that way i could have one kate and one one regular and just have them sitting next to each other and when i got the sammy video world i was like okay well that's actually pretty cool i could accomplish the same thing except the astro city doesn't have the correct frame in it so i can't tate that one and the person who's getting it just wants it regular so that didn't matter in the sammy video world i was like okay i'll make it tate but then when i got this frame you can't because the uh let me actually let me see if i could show you so uh that would go around oh wow here okay strengthen it and then the ones that go on the top and bottom that it bolts to uh so these top ones would be where you bolt the crt to here and then the frame that i just showed bolts on top of these and that just kind of strengthens it but if i um if i line this up with the pre-existing holes that are in here if they line up perfectly you probably can't see that on camera right after they get a flashlight and everything and screw it down but i'm looking right now and these holes line up um within like a millimeter to the point where i could just use a file to get it to work so it's definitely going to uh be usable that way but this way it does not it will not line up in that other way um unless i'm doing it backwards it wasn't these are the holes no no yeah i think frame is exactly what i needed i just think it's um it's only going to be horizontal so that's why welcome to uh an amazing neo geocab you could if you wanted to the other thing i was considering like if it doesn't sell if no one offers me but it's worth i'm not taking a loss i'd rather just keep it so what you actually could do is um remove just this panel uh this like colored panel here and have a custom one made that's just one single six button controller right you can even just reuse these buttons because they're all brand new uh and you could essentially turn this into a single six button machine uh and since you're getting a custom thing you could probably even add a space for a spinner space for a track ball in a couple of usb ports and if you were going to use it with mr and you would essentially be able to build yourself a pretty awesome uh single player mr right yeah absolutely yeah so definitely uh if you're looking for something like that i think that's a great deal i think it's a fair value you know anything around that for working all that work's been put into it you definitely shouldn't take any kind of a loss even in today's economy for that thing because it's not easy to find any of this kind of these are extremely difficult just like a good pvm or bvm find working yeah it's really easy to find these things and it's also really easy to find people that tell you they're working in a good condition yeah no it's not easy to find ones that you will actually could just like you you get it delivered to your house and it works and that's it and there's no other discussion you just plug in your like for this person this one right here if you plugged in a neo geoboard or bought it with it that's that's it you're done you get it home you turn it on you start playing whereas all of the rest and del will vouch for this one he's got work arcade machines that steve and i will ever have yeah and uh yeah if i'm sure he vouchers vouchers for that exact same thing or most of the time you just get it and it's like uh okay well now that i got it home let me do these 50 things before i could even power it on so right and this is i mean you've had some of the best you know people available look at this thing this is just you know you don't even you people should have an incredible piece of mind knowing that uh but it always there's always risk with anything just you never know but this has got all kinds of goodies and that new uh i'm sure that new tube you have to send me some pictures of that but they look sweet when you get it done and installed and i can forward those on well well uh steve thank you for the stream we absolutely fixed nothing we spent yeah it was an educational one two and a half hours of educational learning all right bob i'll i'll hang up the call with you and i'll close the show off here in a second thanks for coming in everybody thank you uh yeah and uh so hang on i'll i'll do an exit to the show but thanks bob and uh we'll talk soon all right uh yeah i will talk to you all soon and that anybody's interest in that stuff hit me up on discord i got to go run an errand but i'll be back in front of my computer in a little bit so see you guys later send a message on discord we can disconnect from bob thanks bob for uh coming in and joining us in this awesome special edition of the bunker today and it was uh two and a half hours so if you came in late you can go back to the beginning we worked through a pvm 14 l five and we worked through uh samsung crt and then this last bvm and all we did was break stuff so maybe maybe thursday we could fix something i want to give a special shout out to everybody for staying through the chat today a lot of you guys were here the whole time that's awesome thanks delusional delz arcade for helping out in the chat with some good old-fashioned technical advice and everybody else who's been in here and having a good time we always seem to have a great chat cat uh crowd i'm sorry anyway i'll see you guys thursday i'll be back thursday at about 11 eastern time with another episode of the bunker number five i'm not sure what i'll be working on but i'll have something new for you uh maybe a special guest who knows all right guys have a wonderful day thank you again hope your monday goes awesome and i'll see you thursday in another episode of the bunker