 All right, great. Well, I will call to order the board of directors meeting of community television to Santa Cruz County for February 27 2023 at 532. And will our interim acting secretary call the roll. That's you Keith. You're muted Keith. We don't know if he's really there. I can. All right. He has muted here. I can unmute him in case he's. I'm sorry, I'm trying to get ready. I was trying to put together the stuff to type. So I was a little, a little behind the curve tonight. All right. So let's see. Call the order. Gila. I am here. Thank you. My Tria. Me. Elizabeth Shaw. And the total ran. Not here yet. Okay. Thank you. Or meeting by a zoom or all communications, any person may address the board during its oral communications period, all oral communications must be directed to an item not listed on today's consent or regular agenda and must be within jurisdiction of the board, any oral communications The audience or the board seeing none move along to consideration of late adjust additions to the agenda additions and deletions to the consent and regular agendas. Nothing. Okay, let's move on to the consent agenda. We have three items and approve the meeting agenda approved the board meeting minutes of January 23. Whoops, 2022 that should be 2023. And accept the January 2023 financial reports any discussion questions. I'll note for the record, the date correction there. Amitra. Yes, thank you, chair. Yeah, I had one question on the financials maybe somebody on the finance committee can answer items 6350 interest expense for EIDL. So are we paying we're paying interest on the. That was one of the coven programs that you ideal loan. That's a little bit of a complicated explanation. We talked about it in the finance committee, and based on the information that Becca gave us and the amount of work it was taking. It was like a mail suite to keep track of the loan, and it didn't look like we needed it. We went ahead and suggested that we just paid the thing back. And I'll let Becca explain what the interest is but basically, the administration of it was more trouble than it was worth. If you were chair when we did it it was a wonderful case of an emergency, but the emergencies past and the amount of work was that so Becca went ahead and repaid it. We should have probably come to the board, but there was a miscommunications, and it's paid back and it's done. So all your work paid off is paid off but the interest rate you we want to mention what the interest is Becca. I think the interest was point three, but it was the mouth in the item he talked about we talked about that at the finance committee meeting. I'm not sure what you're asking. Well there was an amount of money to pay the interest. It was about 63 interest expense $148 and January. I don't have that in front of me yes that was the interest and that and we didn't as Joe said we didn't really need it and it was really a difficult portal for mel for it took us a couple of months before they kept asking us to pay but we couldn't because they said they didn't know us but wanted us to pay our bill, and we cannot get them to get us into their thing and it took and every time she tries to pay it's a pill so it was, we saved $600 a month by just paying it off. So, so that's, I guess the main question I have is that that won't be a recurring expense it's done it's over and done and. Okay, it's actually a charge back I mean we had budgeted for it and we don't have to pay it so is that right. Oh it's a credit. Yeah. Oh, I see. Oh yeah I guess that's why it's in parentheses. Yeah. Yeah. So we, yeah it's it's moot it won't it won't appear anymore because we're, we're just not using it. Okay. All right that's good to know. I was just curious about that. Not particularly worried. Yeah I mean we could have probably arbitrage it but I have a feeling that we're down the line with interest rates rising the federal government will say are you arbitraging our money. And if so we want some of it back it just in the amount of money was wonderful. It was good security blanket but we don't need it. Okay, great. Thank you. That's those are the only questions I had. Any other questions, comments on the consent agenda, the agenda the meeting minutes or financial reports. I will note for the record until the Rand has joined us director and. Oh there she is. Great. Sorry. No worries. This process so I won't say where I'm late. That's fine. We're underway. Okay let's move on to the regular agenda. Take action motion. I'll move the consent agenda. Great. Second. So we have a motion by director Maziar and the second by director Hall. All in favor. Hi. Any opposed. Okay passed unanimously. Thank you. Move on to regular agenda. We'll have the executive directors report. Okay. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Flores yours. Cool. Okay. All right. This is my report for. January. In the category of revenue. The coworking. Center X. Seated its revenue goal. Of $8,800. And earned 50. Sorry. Wish I had earned 50,000. So that's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. Last January, last January, we made 4,900. So that's a good thing. It's a, and overall. We're $5,000 ahead right now of what we're projected. Our projected revenue goal. So we're happy about that. Production services, which is led by. Victor Herman has also exceeded its goal already. And has another project coming in May. So we're happy about all those things. And so for the next five years. We're looking at a new project in January. And the artist of the year is coming up. In May. In under facilities, we're still working on our rebuild. The Comcast finished the installation of dart fiber to CTVs building. And the next step is to get a connection between our building and the county. And there was some. thought 701 Ocean Street was our building and it can't access it any time and of course it is not. So they had to step back and get Okidoki to get in there. They need to look at something and see if they can see light coming from the other end. So that's in process. We were working on transitioning our satellite least to Santa Cruz County and the county used to hold our lease when we were at Pacific Avenue. We took it or satellite took it on when we moved to Soquel but we'd like the county to take it back again and last month we talked about this and I reported that the county expected to have a lease ready for us for this for our building and including the additional suite of offices that we'd like to acquire by February but the storms are so bad that they really distracted them. They had other things rightly so they had things that they needed to take care of first. So our lease did not take precedent and so it has not been completed and because of that the people who currently hold the lease for that suite of offices the smaller lease Barbara is fine with staying on keeping the lease until the county is ready but Elias and the company that has the rest of the building required us to finish in February and Tom worked really hard with them and our attorney and their attorney to extend that to March 1st. So that was as far as we could get. That's all the extra room we could get from them to sign. So I really like to recognize Tom for sharing his expertise and time with CTV. At the drop of a hat he jumped in to make this happen. We had only a few days to do it and he really he pushed a lot of lawyers around. Under equipment we delivered all the equipment that Watsonville High School wanted and they were very excited. All the students came to collect the gear and it was like each one of them had a piece to carry out and they were very excited and the students still be covering Santa Cruz County High School sports but also local events at the mellow center. Apparently the mellow center brings them in to cover all kinds of things which is great and those things that we can broadcast that aren't copyrighted like musical performances or something we get and because these students have been working with the teacher using our equipment to do things one of them got a part time job there is the audio guy. That's what we oh my dog has just come home and he's saying hi. That is what that's it that's what we want. So I'm really happy Watsonville does it again. They put together they had such a great time last time. They did everything we asked. They made programming. Kids were excited and this time they've even got one of the students a job which is that's the ultimate goal. We can put people in a pipeline to find out if this is the thing for them and if this is a career path and get them on the bottom rung of the ladder we can't do better. I feel our work is done. So and then under outreach we gave 25 more podcaster kits to the COE and they are creating content for CTV with them and they are going to do a special thing. They're going to the steam expo and they are going to promote the podcaster kits to all the teachers in the county. So they're going to get flyers about the program and how they can be a part of it. So that's a great thing. We really want to get more more teachers involved. So and that is it for the month of January. Great. Any comments? Reactions? Discussion? Anyone? Great. Well thank you Becca and we will be talking about Elias and and Subleases. Next. Next I would like to adjourn the regular meeting and stop the recording and move into a closed session to discuss and provide direction to our negotiators regarding payment terms for a sub lease of real property located at 325 Soquel Avenue, Suite 110, Santa Cruz. Shall I pause now? Yeah you can pause. Okay. What? All right we are returning to our regular meeting of the Board of Directors of Community Television of Santa Cruz County for February the 27th 2023. In that closed session the Board voted unanimously with one abstention Director Shaw to direct the Executive Director and the Chair to sign a sub lease with Elias and Enterprises I guess it is called on real property at 325 Soquel Avenue. The Elias and Group Limited Liability Corporation real property located at 325 Soquel Avenue, Suite 110. Can I correct one minor thing? Yes please. Elizabeth did not abstain. She importantly dropped off the meeting so she was absent for the vote. Okay she's absent for the vote. Okay. Thank you. All right thank you all. I think this will be great. This consolidates the space gives us more inventory at a time when the market is is growing so cool. Let's move on to this is kind of a technical item number nine approved mid-year budget adjustments. We had this on our agenda last week or last month we talked about it but it wasn't listed as an action item. We really need to take action on it. So it's this approval. Clean up thank you. I have a motion. Second. Motion in second. All in favor? Aye. Okay approved and so ordered. I'll close that lease. And then just technically just for a moment to digress. Tom we'll now get a docusign from. Yes I will let them know soon as we close the meeting. Okay. I assume they'll get circulated tomorrow morning and we should all you guys should sign it tomorrow morning so that we meet the end of February deadline or March. Okay great perfect. Okay item number 10 it is come to our attention that the I don't know what you call it they need What would you say? The pandemic exception to the Brown Act. Exception that's the word exception to open meetings is coming to an end and so we will need to beginning in March hold our meetings in public presume at the studios if we've done before. Becca do you want we've looked into this some Becca you can explain I think there are some exceptions where folks can attend once or twice by by zoom and we will have it on zoom as well. However the issue of a quorum will be probably our biggest challenge. Yeah excuse me. Yeah just if I could ask the director Cozier the typing is actually pretty loud when you're typing if you don't mind you know my muting yourself when you're typing thank you. Okay well yeah you can they're really strict about this you can only not appear in person a couple of times and that you need a really good reason you have to you can't just be on vacation or something you have to be ill and they've made it pretty difficult not to attend the meeting in person and so it's going to be hard to to avoid it. It is hard we can we do the meeting well I guess we can yeah we can do a we can do a zoom version of it so that you guys anybody who can't make it can do by zoom we probably have to have in order to do that we'd have to bring in one of our own ctv operators who would know how to do that how to run the studio meeting and and put it on zoom as well so it's it's extra time for you know we've got to pay someone to come in and do our meeting basically which is okay but it's really hard to do a hybrid meeting like we're just writing it we the only way we do them is in the county where victor and matreah have worked really hard to make all the correct connections so there's no feedback and people see what they're supposed to see and it's really hard to do a hybrid meeting so it's not optimal we're we're now looking at for one of the um i'm sorry my dog is just very anxious and he's pacing around my chair so you'll see his tail go by um we're looking like slvwd they meet in a small room in their own office now because they're going back and they can't can't really but they're trying to figure out a way to get the public in that room and we just had a big long talk about how we could do it because we only send a single camera and they don't have a drycaster or anything like that so we're thinking of using a polycom phone and routing audio out of it into the camera um some of them have an rca out so we might be able to do that but then there's feedback of small room the people you know listening to the people at home so we haven't we haven't yet found a smooth easy way to do a hybrid meeting even in our own place the reason why i brought up the hybrid meeting is there may be some directors who don't want to are just not comfortable attending a public meeting at this point but yet we'd like to listen in or participate in some way and how we want to figure out a way to accommodate that they may not be officially attending the meeting but they could still participate as a member of the public and and listen in i think we can we can do it a couple of ways i think i mean technically and i'll let you go joe is just to like do it in the studio and we have it all set up in the control room to do zoom meetings so we can okay right in there the other way is to use have them call in and to uh to uh it could be a zoom call you can be on zoom and call in and just listen and then um raise your hand but then we need someone to run zoom for us during that time so we have to figure we'll have to do a couple of tests but we also to accommodate some um directors who may not be able to just physically be able to get in because of schedule or something i want to be able to have it somehow so that folks can participate and also the public if they want you know could could participate by call or or i mean we haven't had anybody yet but we'd like to at least have that be possible i think okay i need to i i can talk to victor about how we might do that we can't do it with volunteers because it's way too tricky okay so we'd have to train them sorry all right well i don't want to create unnecessary problems but if we if we can do figure something out we'll work on it joe i'd like to hear from you yeah i i want to echo what you're saying and we've had real trouble over the years getting somebody from south county and i think with the traffic back and everything it's going to be almost impossible if we don't have some kind of and also during the winter who knows if highway nine will work so i mean i think for a variety of reasons it would be good to have some option uh that and i know tom and i talked about what the state law says i have a sneaking hunch in a year or so they're going to probably loosen that a little bit for small groups just simply because people have gotten used to a different way of meeting right and they're trying to go back but just the logistics in this county of getting around is is makes the option a good idea any other observations i do think just um something we could look at the might might actually be easier than trying to figure out a way to zoom in terms of having a south county representative is if the south county representative had a place that they were comfortable where that could be posted as a meeting location they can participate if that is noticed so just it's a little more noticing um so that's something about and they can participate just you know piping in a phone call or so there are ways where they can actually officially participate it's just that that location that second location needs to be noticed a satellite location as it were well yeah and doesn't it need to be open to the public for public comment yes that's why i'm saying it needs you know doing it out of out of somebody's home doesn't all right if there was an office or something in south county there's that community room that's used for a lot of things i was thinking about the library what about the library it's the same building that they have they must have a room there right which library are you talking about what's in there oh yeah you you just have to you know you just have to post the notice 72 hours the same as anywhere else in the brown act i'm trying to remember does the notice has to be posted there right yes it has to be posted there because um we we've had brown act meet where people were in hotel conference rooms but the notice still has to be posted right on the door of the room okay you posted on the door of the library like the front door so people would know it's in here somewhere and put the name of the room on it what we did is both there yeah so they can go and then once they get in and in the agenda of course right it'd be on the agenda as well okay okay well just heads up that that's that will be happening in march and we'll figure out how we'll do that gosh we're going to see all each other i know well so i noticed i tuned in i hadn't watched the city council meeting in quite a while and they're doing something really interesting it seems like they're all in person and they're all on zoom like so i don't know if they all have an ipad it was the most bizarre thing like like all these people are in the same chambers but each one has their own camera and all the cameras are on all the time so it's no more like you know community tv used to have the policy where you only show the person speaking but you know they have to look attentive you know the whole meeting it seems like really uh horrible yeah so i don't know we could we all be at at community tv and in different cubicles you know it's the same location right right yeah just the thought actually yeah we could all be in different rooms with the laptops and i don't i don't mind being in the same room i'm comfortable with that but okay if anybody else was i'd be happy to accommodate well i guess we'd all have to be but if somebody wants to comment to the board the board would have to be in a room together right if someone wants to be in a room together yeah i agree i mean it's crazy making to drive in rush hour traffic to get there to be in an individual zone meeting i i'm crazy enough i think that might be too much so i guess we could have more talks about this later but i'm just wondering if a phone wouldn't work could people go no because you can't go to their house and they can't post where they are okay i got it i got it in terms of um feeling comfortable being in a room together maybe that we want to get in the habit of taking a test that day that morning i mean you know or wearing masks or wearing masks okay i don't mind taking a test because they pay for them with medicare but i don't think all of you have medicare or maybe well my trans one of us that is not medicare they give us eight a month nice maybe i'll share with you one of ours okay okay well this we will we will work on a way to accommodate ourselves but i just want y'all to know becca yeah i just had a thought if we're meeting in the studio and there was someone who didn't want to be in a group couldn't they just be in their own office like if there were a couple or like i was wondering yeah and that the board would there would be a board for someone to comment to if there if there was someone who wanted to make a public content and then people who are vulnerable or or just feel nervous about being in a group would be in their own room so basically what you want to do then is have a person in the room and have a camera just on them they'll be really attentive then i it seems to me i hate to say this but it seems to me what what's come out about you know eliminating this you know there's having being in a separate room is like being in a zoom meeting right even though that's what we can't do we need to be in it we need to be okay so we can't be in separate rooms inside a building we all have to be in the same address i think it's a certain number of people have to be in a quorum in the same room okay okay and we could have a situation where someone you know participates but not is not officially counted as present but participates you know almost as a member of the public but you know listens in comments wouldn't be able to vote or make motions but you know that may be where we end up but we are faced with the need to have a quorum to hold the meeting right right which i think we'll be able to do but you know it has schedules changed it may that could be an issue we'll have to victor we'll see what we can work out at the station with the zoom with a hybrid meeting i know we don't have what it takes to do it right because we would have done it for people in our place but we don't you may end up being asked by other groups that go through this same discussion i think so lots of people don't want this yeah this is sort of a um a moving target too and i think joe i think you're probably right that in time it there may be some relaxation of this but i don't know you know this the brown act is is pretty serious and is taken seriously and should be for good reason because it can be abused well that's any other comments let's wrap this discussion we're closing in on an hour here are we ready to move on okay thank you all um let's see item number 10 um discuss and accept education committee report who would like to speak to that david you want to take that on here um just to piggyback on what you were talking about keith and i um met uh last week to discuss a range of possibilities but one of them was to equip one of the conference rooms to be a hybrid room that might have attraction to satellite um uh users for hybrid meetings and conferencing with others at distance and with a small group in the conference room and i think that there's a number of possibilities for for that uh we just like to bring it to the forefront and explore those possibilities uh even the even maybe the possibility of with larger monitors on a couple walls that it could simulate uh you know some of the high tech news conference new newsrooms that youth might enjoy using at some point other other other news is that um keith has been working with a volunteer to uh if i understand this correctly keith and please correct me is to um make training videos for rental equipment you're muted me and my keyboard so i have a volunteer who has created four blog posts with me about key equipment that we have for rent and the videos in there are curated videos they're videos that other professionals have made about how to use the equipment we're not reinventing the wheel and it's in the post along with details about you know what the equipment is what's in the kit and of course click this link to rent it so we've we've gotten four done becca gave us a list of nine i believe she's working on a couple more and i don't know if you saw your email david this volunteer is interested in possibly joining the education committee so yes i saw that and that's wonderful we we need more blood on our committee um that's a poor praise and um keith is going to educate me on the tricaster and what what that might be used for and in relation to what we've been talking about and um um we're also exploring the possibility of a um first friday event uh at the center involving um generative art or other uses for uh ai that is really a kind of exploding now with chat gpt and so forth and creating quite a stir and in um education communities all around the world as well as up and down the scope of companies and and so on and that um it would be wonderful at at at certain point either in our meetings or more informally for us as a board of directors to discuss the implications for community tv as as any non-profit might want to do so just throwing that out there great um and um there have been some discussions with jason jason at county office regarding uh community tv providing drones for an education program that they might want to start and um i agreed that i would be contacting a local company if they were interested in finding out also a drone company and who they hire and and what's the training involved and so forth but it hasn't gone very far and i will pursue it only to the extent that there's interest in me doing it um do you have anything else to offer so uh one other action on my head from the previous meeting is to create a training video for the rsvp that's right i've i've did a first pass i've gotten some feedback it's going to require a fair amount of editing and this friday i'm going to have david as a new user walk through it and see what he finds needs to be changed to make it the work for people who haven't used it before cool all right guinea pig sorry so no hints he has to work on his own but david i hope you get more training and i did keep just threw me in and said it's easy and push this button and that button oh he's got to do more than that for me okay all right thank you any other comments discussion there um david i have one off topic question is when you move around in your room it looks like the camera follows you is that true is it do you have it sort of a remote thing oh i wish i could tell you i had a fancy system i just bought a new ipad and it just does it you know i kind of want to make you see you know i thought it was cool that it just has a laser something that follows you i'm not quite sure how it works but i kind of enjoy it yeah um well that was my board chair report right there that i have nothing else to add thank you for the education committee report any um request for specific items on our next meeting agenda joe i leave this up to keith you and becca but maybe in the finance committee we'll start out and then bring up the low power tv i saw a meeting that becca wanted to talk about and i didn't want to bring it up for this meeting because that lease was too important to get spread out into other things and it didn't look like there was anything really imminent with low power tv but i thought it'd be good to follow up on it that's a good idea we could have a discussion item at least and maybe there'll be news by then but yeah it's a good idea i'll make a note of that um announce any announcements i just want to say we're having another animation class on march 19th the one day class we're gonna try it and see how that works great and um matilda you're uh sure my job is to i move through adjourn we have a motion and a second all in favor hi hi hi thanks everyone thank you everyone and i'll let you know uh the logistic details and logistics of our next meeting which is probably march 27th as well i think it follows um exactly february yeah okay all right bye everyone