 Hello, everyone. Welcome back to JSA TV and JSA Podcast. We are live here at DCD Virginia in beautiful Leesburg. We are covering the latest stories, trends, and innovations in the digital infrastructure industry today. I'm Candace Sipos with JSA, and I am joined today by Dave Sterles from Hitachi Energy. Welcome, Dave. Thanks, Candace. Good to be here. Yeah. We're so happy to chat with you. You actually, I think, just ran over here from the panel that you just got off of. Exciting day when we had a panel on the future of on-site generation and data centers, which is becoming more and more important, of course. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. If you could just, for anybody who may not have been able to make the panel or might not actually be here today watching, tuning in remotely, could you give us a quick overview or maybe one top takeaway from the panel? Well, I think a couple of things are changing in on-site power. For years, we had depended on diesels for good reason, energy densities there, they're reliable, they work. Now, we're looking more at sustainable power. We're also looking at not over provisioning. Those two things together make for a really interesting landscape of what we're going to use and then the why is changing because data center loads are changing and projected to change significantly with the advent of AI and more dependence on machine learning. Okay. Excellent. We're definitely going to get into AI here in a minute, so we're excited for that. There's so much talk about the demands for power. We keep hearing about that, especially here in Virginia. It's such a critical challenge right now, and ideally sustainable power really. So that's the key. So what is the number one change in your opinion that the industry needs to make in order to keep up with demand sustainably? Yeah. I think what's changing is, first of all, we need to understand a couple of things. We need to be a partner with the grid rather than the energy provider, the utility company, rather than just a consumer. So that's changing significantly. We also need to be able to, the old adage, you can't manage what you can't measure. We need to understand where our power is coming from. Traditionally, I think our industry gets a little bit of an unfair black eye because of power usage. But we're also the first ones that have put in the PPAs and built the solar plants and things to help offset our carbon, offset our dependence on coal, or whatever. Yeah. So I think that that is really what is changing. Yeah. Interesting. Partner to the grid. I like that. And so we promised we would talk a little bit about AI, which is of course another one of the key topics. You can't have a conference like this anymore without getting into AI. So it's part of nearly every conversation it feels like these days. So how do you think the industry will really be talking about this next year? Where is the conversation headed? Yeah. I think from what we've seen so far, and again, to your point, we're very, very early. It's not yet industrial scale. It looks like the low profile is changing significantly. So we're going from basically a flat load to something that's going to be much more variable. And with that, all of a sudden, it's what I talked about before, the reliance on the grid needs to be more of a partnership because you're going to have to really anticipate these loads and how to really, for years, data centers were the ideal customer. They had a flat load. And now with variable loads, that's tough for the grid. It's tough to spin up assets quickly. And will on-site generation take a portion of that? How is that going to work? So I really think that conversations as we go from pilot sites to production sites is going to be incredibly important. And to do that sustainably is going to be a real challenge for the industry. And one of the things I like about the industry is we keep getting these new ideas, new changes and new ways to think about it. So it's always, always interesting. But yeah, we're going to put some heavy roll up our sleeves type work coming for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Well, that feels like a good place for us to wrap things up. Thank you so much for joining us, Dave. Thank you, Candice. Pleasure to be here. Thank you. And thank you viewers for watching JSA TV, live here from DCV Virginia. Happy networking.