 Yes, sir. It's a lot of mobile topics. I don't have a ton of in-depth and depth knowledge I won't be as super talkative during the the main line stuff. All right. Yeah, then that's fine as always whatever whatever you have to say Here we go The Daily Tech news show is entirely supported and funded by voluntary Contributions from listeners like you if you want to chip in and support your daily source of tech visit patreon.com Slush is detect This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday August 13th 2015. I'm Tom Merritt our Intrepid Thursday co-host Justin Robert Young had an unfortunate incident with a pair of keys So he will Hopefully join us if he can before the end of the show But thankfully we got Michael Wolf host of the smart home show at technology FM and creator of smart kitchen con With us today Michael it's extra good that you're here. Thanks for joining. Yeah. Yeah, it's a likely story on Justin I'm not sure I'm buying it really. No, you think there's something behind it. Huh something more nefarious Well, we could ask him. Hopefully he'll make it before the end of the show But we're gonna talk about smart kitchens, which I've been I don't know if I've talked about it much on DTNS but I've been doing a lot more kitchen work a lot more cooking and I have some ideas about what I would like to see and things that I don't want to see them try Any more and and Michael's been on top of this industry now So I can't wait to talk about that with you, man. Yeah, and are you gonna share any recipes? I might if you're if you're not lucky Let's take a look at the headlines first big day for Samsung CNET rounded up all the announcements They made in New York this morning the Samsung Galaxy Note 5 has a 5.7 inch 25 60 by 1440 display with a more responsive s-pen the Galaxy s6 edge plus has lots of words in the title and a 5.7 inch screen 3000 milliamp hour battery and a 4 gigabyte RAM 4 gigabytes of RAM in there That's what differentiates it from the Galaxy s6 edge not plus both phones are coming to the US and Canada August 21st There's also a few other things they announced a keyboard cover case That slides the keyboard on the front and then you could slide it off and just turn it into a regular case by sliding it on the back The ability to live stream directly to YouTube is going to be added to the operating system Sidesync for OS 10 is coming and the new Samsung pay System which has an advantage on other systems because it works anywhere a normal credit card is taken it can work with Maddy magnetic stripe swipe Magnetic stripe swipers that's coming to Korea August 20th The US September 28th with more countries to follow They also tossed out a little teaser about a new watch called the Samsung gear s2 To be revealed at the EFA conference in Berlin on September 3rd. So loads of stuff there Michael But I'll be honest I don't know if any of this gets you excited at all, but the Samsung pay thing I think is probably the most significant well That's interesting because my initial reaction to that is do we need another payment system? You seem pretty bullish on it and it's because of the the ability to use it anywhere Yeah, if you remember they acquired a company called loop pay, okay? Which has a system that allows you to just hold the phone near the magnetic? Stripe reader and be able to emulate a magnetic card, which means it's going to be accepted everywhere And except overseas it'll be a little bit of an issue in places with chip and pin But here in the United States where we are still flying less secure It can come in and really make a difference for people The limiting factor on it obviously is the fact you have to have a Samsung phone Yeah, I think eliminating Friction around having to require NFC or some of these other kind of radio technology said not every one has working Well, it's probably good idea. So I think the magnetic strip thing probably is this biggest thing going for it, right? Yeah, I think it's really interesting these phones are very much Incremental improvements over the other phones. So that's Samsung pay thing is to me the most significant advance look who is Jumping in under the wire Justin Robert Young. Are you all set up? We're getting there. Hey, look at that All right Well, meanwhile PC world reports that Apple has updated boot camp to support the 64-bit version of Windows 10 on max running OS 10 Yosemite Windows 10 and boot camp can use the USB C port. That's kind of cool An Apple keyboard trackpad or mouse. That's normal for boot camp the Thunderbolt port and the SD XC reader and the Superdrive Yeah, not much else to say except hey folks who use boot camp you can now officially be supported using Windows 10 I've never had a need for it But my son is taking a programming class for game programming on Windows and we're an Apple house I'm actually thinking there might be a use case. Yeah to program on boot camp in Apple That would make sense I Eventually switched to virtual machines because I didn't like having to reboot to switch back and forth between the operating systems But when I first did boot camp with Windows it was best Windows machine I ever use I Think that's that's kind of been even the word with with Windows 10 is that Windows 10 has been largely very Very very, you know praised with some upgrade issues aside But that still MacBook Pro is your best Windows option if you would like to have a Windows experience Xiaomi launched its mid-range redmi note 2 and redmi note 2 prime handsets in Beijing according to the next web the 16 gigabyte Dual SIM at redmi note 2 has a 2 gigahertz media tech Helio X 10 octa core processor 2 gigs ram and 16 gigs of storage that one runs you About the equivalent of 125 dollars the redmi note 2 prime Boost that chip up to 2.2 gigahertz and 32 gigas of storage and they'll sell for around the equivalent of 155 dollars both will be available online in China starting August 16th When you put this next to the Samsung phones, which didn't have a price, but you know, they're gonna be more expensive These are pretty compelling You know, I almost wonder with with these, you know, again, we there's so much had been said about the rise of the Fablet in the Chinese market Was there a tablet boom or or or did we just go from phone to fablet in a way that we'd never really that like in in the West we kind of had the rise of the iPad No, I think Michael you may know this. I'm not sure but I feel like tablet sales were pretty strong in China Tom I'm gonna say I don't know this. Yeah, okay. You're in the same boat as I am Which I know they have sold a lot of tablets in China, but I don't have any actual numbers on that So it's an interesting question Reuters reports at the European Commission granted Google's request to extend the deadline for its response to antitrust charges Google has now until August 31st the Commission claims Google distorted the web search results to favor its shopping services The company could face a possible Billion Euro fine Well, I mean they're playing nice enough to give them an extra two weeks, so it can't be all bad, right? But wow is this dragged out I almost I believe that Google probably isn't guilty of antitrust in Europe even with their 90% plus market share But I almost feel at this point they would be in their best interest to just give up and admit something just to get it over with Well, there's only so much that they can do when when you are that big of an elephant in the bed There's only so far that you can roll in any direction without falling on something And that's the the situation that Google has found themselves in Europe Europe has proven to have a track record for punishing American companies who have tech dominance in their jurisdiction, so That you almost just wonder whether or not there is a different way to do this wherein Google understands their role in a way that satisfies some of the regulators and it isn't just you know fine fine fine Regulation regulation because for the European market It's not a favorable look for people to expand with new and exciting ventures out there Well, it's it's it's more it's a different market to navigate You have to expand with a different sensibility. I think Google is learning that lesson right now If we were a network broadcast I would have never admitted that I didn't know China's tablet sales and I would have waited for my producer Jenny Josephson to have whispered the number in my ear But we're trying to be more transparent than that However, Jenny did find the numbers at e-marketer Nearly 80 million tablets will be sold in China this year according to estimates from 451 research They expect a 26 increase in tablets over 2014 levels and they even expect a 20% rise in 2016 So tablets are booming Justin. I should have been happens are hot I should have just said in an authoritative analyst voice that they were doing very well and we yeah Yeah, that is what they do too. Yeah, I think they're doing very well The one at times reports that Russia's media regulator Ross come the door has lifted the ban on reddit after briefly blocking the site because of a two-year-old post on how To grow psychedelic mushrooms site was reinstated because it quote complied with the government's request to restrict local access You know, I think for reddit great headline Like they are very excited that their name is in a headline and it's not in some sort of internal Embryolio or some gender politics think-piece. No, no, no, no, no They are now available in Russia great time to be reddit upvoted I've been looking to grow psychedelic mushrooms. So I'm actually excited about this. I didn't know about it before Yeah, make sure your VPN is appointed to Russia Our Stegnic reports that HTC and Lenovo both announced layoffs today HTC plans to cut 15% of the company's workforce Approximately 2,250 people in order to reduce operating expenses by 35% Lenovo plans to cut 3,200 people about five percent of its global workforce HTC says it wants to increase efficiency as it moves into new product lines the cost of the Lenovo layoffs and restructuring are estimated at 650 million But the company said the moves will achieve savings of more than 1.3 Alien Lenovo is trying to stay in front of a declining PC market while staving off competition in mobile I Feel like this is a bit of an instructive lesson here HTC Didn't see it coming And you can argue whether they should have or not and now they're trying to cut cost while they pivot into some other markets And we've talked about you know, maybe the Vive Will be a big seller for them. Maybe it won't Whereas Lenovo is trying to do this in advance. They're saying look we've been winning the PC market But that's not going to save us forever We acquired Motorola and that they're getting beat up especially in the Asian market So let's slim down now while we're still making money while we're still profitable You know, it seems it seems smart and also it's just you know, you you got to wonder where Where we're going right now I mean like the the the commoditization of the PC market for as long as my adult life has as extended has just been The the rule, you know Like things got cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and more and more commoditized And now it feels like we've just sort of hit a breaking point kind of in the global market for it Now Samsung's more exciting announcement in my opinion came at the flash memory summit in California the PM 1633 a NAND flash hard drive uses 256 gigabit NAND flash dies to create a 16 terabyte Two and a half inch solid-state drive that appears to be the world's biggest drive magnetic or not The trick is climbing 48 layers of 3 bits per cell 3d v NAND the v stands for vertical into a single die Then you pack 480 to 500 of those together and you get an actual capacity of 15.36 terabyte still big Usual this is meant for enterprise and we don't know how much it will cost, but it will be thousands applies But solid-state drives still more expensive than magnetic drives, but now passing magnetic drives in capacity Tom I take issue with your use of the word exciting announcement. Oh, it's personal, right? I don't expect anyone else. There's a few other digital hoarders like me. I'm going to the digital of the flash memory summit for years now I wish they'd invite me to the flash memory so I I don't know why big hard drives are And I always want a larger hard drive. You'd like big drives. You cannot lie the other brothers won't deny Did only say it was more exciting. That's a qualifier It's a good point. Thank you for getting me off the hook there, Justin Hey, a lot of these stories come from our subreddit daily tech news show dot reddit dot com and you Should join in if you haven't already and help us vote on the stories We talk about every day gold kick posted the arse technical story from Peter Bright Detatling the little bits of information that Windows 10 still Sends over the internet even when you disable it from sending anything over the internet without your permission They range from a rather innocent network connection status indicator that just pings a server To see if it's on IPv4 IPv6. It doesn't send any data Then there's the requests for data that bypass proxies Even if web searching and Cortana are disabled apparently even when you just want to search for files on your desktop Microsoft servers get pinged with a machine ID attached even though they don't attach any search query data It feels like these are little bits and pieces That developers didn't think anyone would notice and weren't a big deal And it's absolutely the kind of thing that drives people nuts If I need control over what gets sent out of my computer and I need to be able to turn it on or off Well, I mean that and that is is baked into the the DNA of what it is to enjoy Windows Is is that element of control especially in our new age of increased privacy awareness? You need to have Absolute knob control on making sure that when it is off it is capital o ff It seems though with these that they are little elements to to maybe You know get feedback on the experience to continue to update, you know, like sure if I turn that on I'm fine with that Yes, don't be pinging your bing servers when I turned off web search though Don't ping your bing unless I say something that sounds like please but rhymes with ink Yeah, I could think of it either SP Sheridan posted an article by Harvard student Aaron Khanna Or yeah, Aaron Khanna who had his internship at Facebook? Cancelled because he wrote a browser extension that scraped Facebook The Chrome extension was called Marauder's map and used geolocation data from the Facebook messenger app to map the locations of the Users when the messages were sent Facebook has sent disabled location sharing for desktops When Arana's future Facebook manager asked Khanna to disable the extension He did but posted on medium that Facebook made him Facebook then rescinded its summer Internship offer this is surprising to me It's like the difference between Facebook and Google's Google would have embraced this guy It's like the old adage keep your friends close, but your enemies closer Facebook Cancels it that's strange me It feels like they didn't like his attitude. It's it. Yeah, I don't know if that's true But yeah, it's like the tone that he wrote the medium post just didn't jive with the internship Coordinators idea of the way it should have been disclosed or something because this is actually kind of counter to sort of the reputation the Facebook right now has in in the valley that they are kind of the place for the hackers that This is the safe space to tinker and and do big bold things in a way that maybe the Suffocating bureaucracy of Google has kind of proven frustrating to somebody, but maybe you have to tell the company line I mean I've seen Google Pretty senior Google guys and even not so senior guys rip on their company in blog posts Say there's the the famous blog post by one of the the product managers who said the nest protect thermostat is an awful piece of Crap and he didn't get fired. I mean, could you imagine what Facebook would have done in that situation? Oh, yeah He would have been unfriended Aaron Kana did get another internship in Silicon Valley So this didn't ruin his career. Also Facebook hosts several hacking events that invite people from outside Facebook to show up like I don't know people with internships in Silicon Valley So I'll be curious if Aaron Kana ever shows up at one of those events and how it goes down That's as gossipy All right, let's talk smart kitchens man Tech in the kitchen for most people to date. I would suppose means a tablet Maybe an all-in-one desktop some kind of touchscreen Sounds Michael like most often it's been an iPad And then we have the the famous LG digital multimedia slot side-by-side fridge freezer with LCD display that I believe is that either CES or Comdex back in 2002 that sort of set the template of oh the smart kitchen means you put an internet Connection and a screen on a fridge. Are we finally moving past those to something more helpful? Well, I think you're right The smart fridge has become kind of a cliche and almost kind of a laughing joke because there's been so many bad attempts I think going back to 2000 I remember one where Java suddenly was trying to put Java on a refrigerator But there's actually a lot of innovation going on in the kitchen and one of the things I'm really excited about is just being able to try new ways of cooking And also just having technology make you a better cook. We're seeing lots of different technologies Good example is a sous vide cooker that I've been using. These are products that largely have been restaurant-based Chef-oriented types of ways of cooking but with the advanced and internet things and lower-cost processors I can now try things like sous vide cooking, which is really exciting It's interesting just to hear that because I've read some articles with chefs where they're saying I don't want a bunch of tech weighing things or telling me what temperature it should be For instance, there's smart pans. It'll tell you essentially Oh the meat is at the right temperature it should be cooked now and they they disdain that they say look as a chef I should be able to look at a piece of meat and know whether it's cooked or not because I'm trying to get it to a particular type of doneness, but that's that's an interesting Contra example to that which is there's a lot of high-end chef Devices that do have processors and the price may be coming down I mean if you're artisan if you're a craftsman, you're gonna defend by and large the old way of doing things And I think we're gonna continue to see that that's not exciting But look for example a pico brew which is and some of these other beer brewing appliances I mean if you look at the vast majority of us, we're not gonna take the time It's it's an art to learn how to brew beer at home But if I can use technology to make really great beer at home use use it to make it Probably a lot better than if I didn't use the technology then I'm gonna use those types of technologies so so let me Ask you this is there a an advancement in the sphere beyond cooking like there There was a lot of stuff that happens in in your kitchen from right To organizing stuff What have we seen beyond just ways to cook your food? I think that the way I describe it to people is we're With regards to food the kitchen delivery the kind of entire food ecosystem We are where TV was about a decade ago. Remember how exciting it was when we just started to see these Connected TV devices. We thought about oh could we possibly get internet to the TV? It was really hard to do in 2004 now It's really easy and it's shook up a Whatever you want in a 50 billion dollar ecosystem. Let me tell you the food Market the food ecosystem is a much bigger. It's probably a 10x market compared to TV. Everyone eats If you just look at every part of the of the ecosystem from delivery You're seeing that being shaking up with folks like blue apron plated if you look at the way to order replenishables Amazon's trying things like the Amazon dash is going to put intelligence into our Devices that consume consumables and say hey, you're out of this. Let's just reorder it now There might be some people who say that's scary I don't want Amazon auto reordering stuff, but the fact that this stuff is happening and they're Experimenting with it. I think it's pretty exciting Yeah, because that what I want as someone who is doing more cooking than I used to is You know, okay a cutting board that can weigh my ingredients seems nifty I'm not sure if I would really use that Because I don't know that I'm that geeky that I want to measure things out that exactly or whatever What I want is something that says we know what ingredients you have on hand Here's what you could make recipe-wise with that and here's what you could make recipe-wise with that if you had a few extra Ingredients and we'll add those to your shopping list or even better You you know click here and we'll have those ordered and delivered to you doesn't seem like anybody's really connecting all those dots They're trying to there's a couple exciting things. There's 3d or there's robot assembly and robot Cooking devices that people are just starting to put in so you could say I want to cook like this chef Or I want to cook like this chef and these guys are talking to the food delivery folks like blue apron or plated Say you wanted if you had a food subscription to certain level ingredients You had it delivered to your house and you said I want to cook like this this type of flair, etc That's they're starting to think about that another good example is a company called teforia They're making a next-generation tea brewer and you know tea's been made for a thousand years pretty much the same way But the teforia is going to say okay. It's nighttime. Do you want this tea with or without caffeine? By the way, do you want more antioxidants in this tea? We can do that So just think about the fact you can start actually playing with them molecular level Food at the molecular level it gets really interesting. Yeah get in the hitchhiker's guide territory where it like Analyzes your brain and decides what you actually would like to have right then and makes it for you perfectly so Go ahead. Sorry go ahead. Go ahead No, I mean I just think that people with technology now We're doing things with food that we haven't been able to do before I think to your point earlier Tom There's gonna be the purists to say I don't want technology in the kitchen and you don't have to have technology in the kitchen But there's so many of us who want to do different things with food. We want better Information about our health and if you could tie all these things together it becomes exciting. There's a lot of possibilities So a lot of these innovations are putting technology or connectivity or the internet into Existing devices that we already kind of use or at least there is an analog for do you think that we're going to see? Maybe even a kitchen specific Device or a tablet or something that is that is very much its own element of a new Interconnected kitchen when all of these things sort of exist Maybe either as a hub or as just a compliment Maybe I mean I think there is an argument to be made that sometimes technology can take two things too far It can make things more complicated. That's what we don't want and that's the case with the smart home That's the case of the kitchen, you know Tactile devices and tactile knobs are really great So but I do think there are people thinking about how we can maybe connect all these things together Almost like a kitchen operating system if you will I don't know if this can be purposeful built tablets But I think you're going to see intelligence go into things like ovens You guys probably saw the news about the June intelligent oven That becomes really interesting as a connected device things like cameras going into the into the oven itself and doing image recognition That can automatically set your temperature and time So I think what we're more likely to see is ingredient technologies going into existing devices And not necessarily kind of whole new categories of vices like maybe a command center or touchscreen That's kitchen specific Yeah, one of the things that I read today pointed out that bringing the software To bringing the burden of this to the software is probably a better approach than trying to just stick a lot of things Into existing devices, you don't need Bluetooth added to your knife necessarily and I I feel like this is the same problem that the internet of things in general has which is What is the platform that allows us to bring all of the stuff together in a way that's useful for us? Instead of you know, I think it's unfair to criticize companies for like Oh, they just throw processors and connectivity into everything and see what sticks. Well, that's how we figure out what works Right, let's try a bunch of different things, but I know for sure like I have a tablet. I have my recipes on it I actually rewrite recipes in my own sort of flowchart in simple note. I Right there. I want something that's not gonna be all getting all sticky because I you know Just chopped an onion and I got onion juice when I'm trying to use it I would like that to be able to connect with my refrigerator or whatever to know what ingredients I have on hand ahead of time. So if I say I want to do those kinds of recipes I I have to buy this kind of ingredients at the store or order these to be delivered and then potentially the oven that can tell me when the roast is done or the meatloaf has finally reached the right temperature Can ping that same tablet and that's useful to me I don't have you know something that alerts me like hey We're not telling you what to do, but meatloafs at that temperature You might want to check on it see if it looks brown enough for you all of that sounds good It's just which of those things are actually useful and how do we tie them all together? How do we get one system where it's not all of these little pieces that don't talk to each other? Well, I think the big White goods manufacturers like Samsung and LG probably you're gonna try and tie everything together I think we're in the phase with the smart kitchen like much like we are with the smart home that there's a lot of early Temps some of them are going to be clunky But what also is exciting to me is quite honestly attempts at recreating core cooking technology If you look at what free skills doing they have what they have an RF cooking division and they've said microwave cooking technology is from the 1940s Why do we use that still you can use technology that we use in our cell towers and our cell phones in the mic in a Cooking box cook a segment of the steak while keeping the other part of the steak at a different cooking level You can cook vegetables at a different level and it could tell you when the cooking is done That type of stuff is actually really pretty interesting So you say now we don't have to have the thing rotating all the time and it'll still cold now You might you might be talking to my language you might get cancer a lot earlier, but but your steak will be done at a better level so Your steak will mutate to be bigger and juicier. Yeah, and I have three eyes. So yeah, hopefully not. Well, excellent We'll tell you a little bit more about a conference of Michaels involved with where you can find out more about this Or a follow smart kitchen con on Twitter. Let's get to our pick of the day Peter wrote us a lovely note about why he's still using DVD RW. We actually Mentioned this as part of the Lenovo laptop that it has a DVD RW and Patrick Beja and I were like hmm Who uses that? Well Peter helped his 86 year old father pick out a rechargeable electric shaver and the manuals print was so small that he went to the to the web and printed out a PDF with large print So his dad could read it and while he was there found three tutorial videos that he then burned the DVD His dad has a DVD player was able to watch the tutorials to kind of help him get a little more out of the razor So that's our pick to the Phillips power touch shaver Peter said look, it's actually a really good shaver Model eight eight nine one for all of you inquisitive Shavers out there. Yeah, I will read it's rechargeable. It's waterproof Will not operate While plugged in if it's if it's got an unsafe condition works for both wet and dry shaving You simply flip the shaving head up run it under the tap to clean it and that's why you have that safety feature And so if you forget to unplug it, you know, it doesn't cause a problem He says look should be within the capabilities of my 86 year old father who recently purchased this item Shaving head dismantles for more thorough cleaning, etc. So there you go Phillips power touch shaver model eighty eight nine one I've never used it, but Peter says he really likes it. Send your pics to feedback at daily tech news show comm You can find my picks at daily tech news show comm slash picks Got a couple of emails before we get out of here Russell said on yesterday's show We were discussing the usefulness of Twitter. He says Twitter is probably the strongest social media platform for our business Although LinkedIn is geared for this. It does not have the social and interactive components of Twitter We use Twitter to engage with our clients and members of the related business community on both a firm level and the individual level It has been the go-to tool for getting the word out about what is going on at an individual level We use it to personally connect at the local level with business colleagues The actual value and results are hard to measure But we know that it is part of the world in which we live and we need to be there And a direct correlation may be hard to find Michael do you have a Go-to answer if somebody asks you what Twitter is good for I Tell people it's great to get real-time news and information from a group of respected peers In fact, I've never said that since in my life, but that's what I would tell them Tom But I mean I use it for that I mean I I follow people like you if all people in tech and that's how I know before it's on CNN or Or whatever news site fall. That's where it breaks for me It was that a good answer. I don't know that's a good answer I think that well, that's one of the answers we mentioned yesterday was news. So I think that's a very legitimate portion of it I mean, I think the big question is is Twitter is as useful as the internet is for you depending on your relationship with the Internet it is a great and ever-expanding way that you can kind of dive deeper into it If you are a new sound you can find breaking news if you're in the commentary and discussion It is the natural successor to bulletin boards, you know, it's it's a broadcast platform It's just not exactly equivalent to any broadcast platform. We've had in the past. It's it's not the telegram. It's not radio It's not newspapers But it is that place where you can see information quickly and in a stream I'm interested to see I'm interested to see now that they've removed the 164 limit on direct messaging how much more people use it for a replacement for email or just messaging I find a lot of people just message me on Twitter now without that hard limit I'm wondering how that's going to change maybe more people and golden age golden age for DM fails upcoming Popcorn ready is gonna be great. Actually it might help DM fails By saying oh, you're over the 140 character limit and then a lot of you that you weren't actually typing a DM at that point Just make sure all the dirt that you're gonna say is a starting at character 141 Wait a minute. So DMs over text message are one of the greatest sources of DM fail DMs over text messages are still limited to 140 characters, but they will break it up into 140 character chunks Yeah, so when you wait for that first 10,000 word DM fail that just spams Yeah, just put your business plan in the DM and just hit it and see what happens Yesterday Anthony Carboni suspected that the same person behind the website redirect of ABC dot WTF to Bing was the guy behind screw gold But Brian points out that the guy behind the screw gold campaign was Mark Penn who left Microsoft in June Anthony also suspected the person probably popped his collar Brian says that is unconfirmed We're not sure if mark Penn ever wore his collar popped I'm on top of a story colorful colorful political history and Then Josh wrote in and said today's Samsung unpacked event featured a significant amount of stage time to women and specifically women of color This has been a huge turnaround for Samsung after the disastrous GS4 launch They have constantly had a lot of women presenting their keynotes He wonders is too little being made of this by the tech press who applaud Apple for bringing two women on stage for less than five minutes Is it just because it's Samsung or you know, what is it? And I think it's probably a de facto part of the The way that Apple is over covered generally and Samsung generally gets less coverage than Apple Oh, man cold cold comfort for the feminist commentary class that finally these Android iOS wars have found yet another front and it's who can be more inclusive of the female executive But thanks to Josh for pointing that out because I don't think Samsung probably gets enough credit for realizing how bad that GS4 announcement was and and taking strides to counteract that in future announcements and the problem the problem with that announcement was was how Like every other announcement things were you know like that that it is it is a general Industry-wide problem and it is one that it is nice to see women on stage and women getting credit for it And hopefully those women are you know, just as empowered behind the scenes You know for their work. I think Samsung has learned not to do skits. That was That was the underlying fault of that GS4 announcement. I think was that was the Broadway one, right? Yeah, yeah Hachi machi That is it for this episode of Daily Tech news show big Thanks, Michael Wolf for joining us as I mentioned host of the smart home show technology fm and tell us about smart kitchen Con that's coming up in November. Yeah smart kitchen summit. You can find it at smart kitchen summit calm I'm bringing together the who's who of everyone Innovating and creating new technology in the kitchen and I have a special gift for your listeners Tom Really a discount code if they want to come hey if you're gonna be in the Seattle area November, yeah DTNS is a discount code 10% off and but more generally if you're just interested in Kitchen tech where it's going you could just go to smart kitchen summit.com where we're talking about it there Excellent. Thank you for that and it really is he has got an impressive lineup if you're interested in this segment Of the industry you're gonna see some smart people talking about stuff wait one more thing can I mention one more thing? Yeah, of course We're also having a startup pitch offer people creating smart kitchen technology If you are a listener and you are creating that next cool device and you want feedback from highway one or Lemnos labs to the biggest hardware accelerators in Silicon Valley The guys running those shows will be at my conference and you can pitch them Excellent, you can find out the website. Yeah, so remember that code DTNS to Hey Justin Robert Young glad you made it and What are you up to these days? Oh? Tom you know me on the campaign trail That's because the contender dot us a card game that I invented with John Teesdale and my friends at cuts and glory Megan Faun is Now in the official Second half we have been buoyed by your support. 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I hope we sparked some people thinking about smart kitchens Yeah, and Justin I'm excited as you know I don't know if Donald Trump is maybe you're gonna make this more fun, but I love making fun of politicians Oh, yeah, no, it's um, he has certainly engaged the nation in very very very early primary debates on a level Never seen yeah for for my money. So so it has been very exciting considering We're profiting off it. So it's really great really someone has to besides the politicians Contender game momentarily aside, although I really do want to get back to that presidential library thing because I have some thoughts About the ring in library Which is we have titles that Tom needs which is I'm sorry Dave I'm afraid I can't flambé like that from TV Zee gone Todd Whitehead has Skynet and the Scullery, which I love TV Zee gone also one range to rule them all Pretty spectacular, and then I was a jerk and I had submitted knob control to major Tom which got that song stuck in my head and There was some other good ones. I like big drives, and I cannot lie That's just true that's just true don't ping your bing unless I say bring that thing That's good Great today was a good day, and then Reddit is upvoted by Russia Nice Any favorites I kind of like one range to rule them all That's good. I like that too. Yeah All right going with that My statement on the Reagan presidential library as I've been there before for the for the funeral And I'm familiar with the area, and there's this really great kitchen so does it have to be like does it have to be on Reagan's Air Force one playing the contender game or You know In in these backer achievements, it's really the enthusiasm that counts I don't think that we're gonna go really really hard fact-checking So it's kind of want everybody to get excited about the game and do something fun Air Force one here I come Okay, so Miss your Neshcom hello, I have taken over the post just so you know to put that title in And Michael You're welcome to stick around. We just kind of leave the stream on while we will we do the show? But you don't have to if you need to go go people do all the time. It's not a problem Part of it is I just never know how to hang up from Google Plus, so I may be here till All right, that's fair enough now But hey Tom always a pleasure. Yeah, I don't know if you guys know this but Tom is like you guys know Tom is the nicest guy in podcasting. That's a you should get a t-shirt that says that so That's why I'm Tom doesn't like to be complimented either, but I just know I don't Was gonna deflect that he does okay. Thanks, Roger He eats it up. Oh, thank you Michael though. That's very nice to say All right guys had a lot of had a lot of fun and hope to be back soon. See you guys cheers. Bye No sad face Maybe your cheeks are too fat So Neshcom Yeah Do you need me to walk you through what we do post show or did that all make sense in the check in the instruction instructions or Okay Because I put the title into the post just now To and then I use level later to do to level the show, which is what I was just doing But you can do whatever you want. I'm sure you've got your own process. Okay good and then I make the I do that in audacity and Pretty much I start recording when we start the show and stop it as soon as I'm done with the Diamond Club thing So I don't do any actual snippeting But if you need to do that you do that and then the mp3 goes to SoundCloud and archive.org Okay, did we get from the SoundCloud password? Yeah, I was just about to say you might need to send me those credentials. Yeah Hey Justin, well, can I ask you a quick question? You can ask me all the questions. Okay, one quick question Jesus go on Next Thursday, you were talking to someone. Did you hear back from that someone? Yes, he's in great excellent Can we say who it is or is it sure? I just didn't want to say it unless it was Is Somebody that I'm very excited to finally get a chance to talk to about technology It's been a long time coming He is a published author Uh Andromaine will be on the show never heard of him. Well, you should Gosh darn it Never heard of him, but I don't trust that him Geez when I go by his book. It's really good book both of them Many of them go by all the books So now all I need is a person for Monday the 17th with Ms. Veronica Belmont, which has been oddly tough to lock down Crab apparently thank you the contender was featured in the Kickstarter better today So Bryce Bryce. Yes, sir. Yes. I got that. Okay, and then it's feedback at daily tech news show calm Okay, so Veronica you need it in two weeks No Veronica in four days Ellie Ellie's volunteer Okay, she's eating the microphone Well, they told you they told her on that particular model You need to eat the microphone and she took a little literally that's all yeah Roger you're still I'll I'll hear from you one way or the other regarding that when I do you but I was looking for someone else I'm still looking for someone else with 70 We wager but yesterday All right guys, I'm gonna go take a shower. All right Okay, sir plus one for hygiene. Yeah, thanks for making the effort to and like getting there in time for headlines That was awesome. Oh, man. I was That was yeah, a lot of things. I'll tell you all about it one day You're impressive. That's all I gotta say. Oh, stop stop. All right. I love you guys. Bye He took a uber pool, right? I was gonna ask him about that. I Wonder how that went. Yeah. Yeah, I've always been curious about uber pool I almost took it today, and then I was like nobody else is going to Tom's house Well, but that that's fine you still get the ride. It's just you get it alone That's true. You know, I don't think it works where you have to wait So does the same car pull etiquette apply like when you're a passenger like about good question No Like if I created like a uber pool competitor where everything is like a party bus Like, you know, you get like a you get like a fake plastic lay and a you know a somewhat mildly alcoholic beverage and a fruity container Commuting to work and back like fun. I Just feel like uber it's already hard enough for me to like have a new relationship with each driver And I just don't want to have a new relationship with each driver and There's levels of relationship that you make it seem like you're trying to date everyone There's a social contract whether you're either silent or kind, but certainly not rude That's come. Were you able to get into SoundCloud? Are you one of those Are you one of those people that hates talking to other people on planes like when you're traveling? Yeah, unless they're awesome. Hey, I'm a chatter. I like I don't know why I think it's cabin fever Like I've had the best conversations on planes like the last one I had was a great conversation with this Israeli tech Support guy who got flown out of Tel Aviv to San Jose to work on like a poor person like Most of the people I sit next to just fall asleep start snoring and clearly haven't eaten any breakfast Hmm. I Just get really interesting people maybe Then in case you sit next to my wife, and then I'll be just silent Yeah, no, I was raised in New York City where you don't have to talk to the taxi driver But every once in a while you'd get a cool taxi driver and you say that one more time You were raised in New York City where you weren't aren't supposed to talk to the taxi driver Have to talk to the taxi Not a social Patrick told me Patrick Norton. Yeah, it was very adamant like when you're in New York because he's I guess he said He was a taxi driver for a short time. It's like, oh, you just got to be yeah I'm used to talking to tax drivers all the time. It's what you do in New York when you drive. Yeah, talk Sure, I suppose so or you just like hold on for dear life. I don't know. I was you know, I'm 1976 New York, so It's different New York Patrick was New Jersey and then he went to New York for clubbing or something. Yeah Patrick From wherever I'm hearing it. Oh, I'm sorry. Are you hearing a fan noise? No, I'm hearing my king noise. Nope I'm hearing dramatic musical noise from somewhere I'm not hearing it But I'm in the same house So Neshcom you have a way to do ID three tags, right? Yes, okay, so even if it's just to the web you should be able to get the drop box. It's not The link is trying to get me to accept the shared folder not just view it Let me see if there's a way to send it differently All right, I changed the permission see if that helps. Oh my god, I'm maybe right back I'm gonna go investigate that strange music coming from just behind me Did Alexa turn on or something? It's my house possessed Alexa, I don't know what it was. Oh, I just did it again She was playing music. Yeah, that's hilarious Started playing music Playing song for you now Come I am lonely come into the kitchen and talk to me. I'm right next to the knives open open the kitchen door Alexa, yeah Participate in the smart kitchen discussion I'm in the kitchen and I'm smart I'm the smartest thing in this kitchen. I'm still adding show no links Correct. Yeah, they embed. Yes, okay, correct Okay, so we're gonna take this party offline, but thanks everybody for watching We'll talk to you soon