 think about KubeCon have this this this sense of that I'm playing buzzword bingo in a massively large bingo card that is incredibly hard to fathom and figure out where to do anything so I thought that I would rather than try and play this game I may play this game during KubeCon by myself and send out some sheets here because I did found a great website for doing this so I'm yeah buzzword bingo call sheets print them boom we're in there but so I kind of wanted to start off though rather than diving into what your favorite session is is to make everybody do something fun because the fun part of these conferences is besides the hallway conferences and seeing Chris and Jen and Josh in person is swag and I what I loved about the definition of swag here is one of the definition what's money or goods taken by a thief or a burglar I'm like that is so describes at every conference I've ever been to and that's the informal definition no less which is weird if you've ever staffed a booth at Red Hat or any other vendor booth or anything else like even in the open source section where they have stickers galore it is crazy the people who come through with the bags and just all their stuff in there so I'm gonna give everybody a few minutes here who's on here Chris and Jen and I'll stop sharing the screen for a minute and make you go off and find your favorite piece of swag and if you're watching following along here somewhere please share in the chat what your favorite swag is and while they're doing that I am going to unpack the swag I got from a Kubecon for being a speaker this time around I don't know if you can see this but I thought the best part of it I'm gonna because it's virtual they gave us slippers from home okay not that I didn't already score a million of these from that and I am not even gonna tell you what this is I think this is remains to be guessed but nobody thinks it's some sort of strange it is a supposed to be a back thumper so yeah so there it is yeah that's not what I thought it was and got one of those it's called a Theracane little slinky like toy but a bag that's totally reusable for other swag so yes slinky toy and let's see I guys are all I hope you're all gathering your stuff and there was a Theracane in here oh I don't know I might have already put it away oh this was the best there was a little pin speakers pin which has already been absconded with by some teenager who came over the other day but this this is handy all right this is like did you get when you go to the and the like because I have thought at my house many a time of putting up one of those on the air off the air yeah on the outside so that when I'm doing a talk like this one with y'all I I don't get interrupted by UPS or the garbage man or anybody else so I was thinking that would be a interesting thing to do so um so it's it's funny you mentioned that I actually have on-air lighting for my like house and family notification thing so I have two Amazon buttons that do that for me so that yeah few lights push a button turns a red light on down here and turns the stairwell down to the office I just madly wave whoever is in the background away like I have like the visual cue for a five-year-old is way better than like daddy's working daddy's working daddy's working right like the visual of oh daddy is on the air it's very very much very what do you what have you got for swag that's nearby I realize that my kid has all the cool swag but I did find this guy so this is from OpenStack Summit I think from Sydney Australia which was three years ago and I think this was at the I'm guessing what's one of the Chinese vendors I can't read with what it is but anyway this was a this was the closest thing I could find but I have a collection of really cool swag pins I realized my son has them all in his backpack yeah that's what happens with pins it's my best chance yeah what's what's the um what's your favorite one that you've ever gotten in terms of swag pins I mean I think my swag anywhere that's hard I get you know I like the swag pins because you can you know display those easily I mean I like the one that I actually I myself produced it for Red Hat Summit oh actually yeah I love the ducks and actually love the RDO ducks I have an entire collection of RDO ducks those are up in the bathtub where because my son actually uses I shouldn't tell him because he's 11 he's going to be humiliated I just revealed him because I've been collecting his RDO ducks he's been collecting his RDO I've been collecting them for years he's got this really expensive collection he still likes to play with them and he's in the middle school oh my gosh I can't wait to step back he's not around it's okay you don't get it so um Josh what's what's your favorite swag and what did you find nearby a couple of things I mean the the nearest by thing is these little flashlight metal cubicle flashlights we had made for the release of metal cubes one of the pieces of swag that we actually had produced that I kept one of because it's really useful for looking for things under my desk best piece of speaker swag I ever got is this thing from Gophercom yes so one of Ashley's little gophers in a race car they're really awesome little stuffed animal I had to buy three because yeah show one for me to play with and one for Max to play with yeah yeah but but the one I probably use the most is one that I got last hubcon for being an ambassador and it's this one yeah that one that's a good one that's a good one yeah do everything gets so all the good stuff gets stolen at my house I have a box that I put it all in when I come back and whenever I do my maker stuff the kids just go through that and take whatever stickers they want so yeah so what is the strangest thing that you've ever yeah and I don't I didn't have time to dig through my because anything I don't actually want goes in boxes to give out of the meetup which I've quite a bit of since we haven't been able to have a meetup in person for a while and I didn't have time to dig through those trying to think Oracle has been giving out these little dancing robots for a while and like in every conference and what's really amusing about them is they fall over yeah same things I should be saying yeah works for just long I was telling everybody before we went on the air what my favorite or the strangest swag I ever got was and I have to do the clean version of it I was at an open-stack summit years ago I'm pretty sure it was in Boston and I can't remember the vendor's name but I got a pair of black boxer shorts with maximum uptime printed on them yeah perfectly inappropriate yes trust me I kept them for a long long time but some some partner of mine disappeared them at some point so she's probably hopefully they've got them somewhere but I think Justin's run out of the room now that I've said maybe he has a pair of I remember who that was because I just first of all it's completely inappropriate but it was hilarious and it was the hottest hot cake thing swag at the event but I'm sure it's like now with all the DNI that's that had to been six years ago yeah I had to be a while ago yeah something close to that yeah it's been a while been a while what's the strangest thing you've ever gotten Jen I was trying to debate whether I've seen some strange swag that I haven't taken I think I remember there was like a I'm trying remember there was this this storage shirt that someone was producing and it had something kind of inappropriate related to size on it and protection there is also this piece of slide that became very notorious and it was with I want to say prophylactic involved that that probably one of the most notorious ones I've seen but I you know I don't have I didn't take that as a souvenir but that that that's been called out so you said nothing that I took it on because I was that's just easy but you know I kind of think now in the virtual world that one of the hardest things is to deliver swag right so you know trying to get a t-shirt across an international border I fiasco with okd where based after all the shipping and everything it was like 70 bucks to send a t-shirt yeah you know we'll eat in there and we just yeah we said we'll send you well there's some places we can't send t-shirts to at all right now at all yeah and and that that kind of and knowingly that changes every like other week mm-hmm true yeah alright so I'm gonna share my screen again and talk a little bit about the schedules that so that's the swag dash I figured that was be a fine thing to do so if we go to here I have red hat calm we have a bunch of sites here that make it really super easy if you're trying to find red hat things so I thought I would share that if you wanted to let me see if you present mode here so it's get a big day there so you can qr code that and Veronica Cooley and Jen and the whole team have done a wonderful job making this happen and so there's that I'd be remiss if I didn't say give a shout out to on day zero this is gonna be a long week okay this is Tuesday all right I don't know about the rest of you but there's coupon and there's I'm talking at one other conference on Thursday some Canadian academic master class on cloud computing and on Monday the whole week is lesbians who's tech week so they kind of collide my two favorite conferences so I'll be on like multiple terminals all week so but day zero which is Tuesday I will be at the Open Ship Commons gathering hosting and moderating that and my good friend Chris short here is going to be doing a variation on that called I don't know did we officially call it mystery science theater does Open Ship Commons live streaming it in the background and running commentary hopefully not on my hairstyles no no we definitely intend for it to be very cordial and polite unlike some of the mystery science theater 3,000 of old right like it might have been cutting or kind of you know having at the bad production potentially but this will be a enlightening mystery science theater kind of event so so that's that's kind of the big thing for me on Tuesday the last day I'm gonna be hosting the okd working group meeting too but what I thought I would make everybody do is kind of show us your schedule and by what I mean by that is if you see if I have mine up here correctly I'm trying to use I'm trying to be better about this because if you try and manage your way through this whole thing that is here and let's see if you can go to my schedule and pick out I have a few friends that's nice to know who are my friends that's interesting I never just noticed that part of it before so there's the Open Ship Commons gathering and there's a whole tons of things that you know that I want to go to some that I have to go to I am given a keynote on that I'm like five minutes of the fastest talking I've ever done on Wednesday so but what I really highly encourage people to do is especially if it's a project they're they're interested in don't know a lot about is to go to the meet the maintainer sessions those are great I'm definitely I've got a kind of sporadic group of things in here at different times but I think there's what I try and tend to do is go to as many of the end user talks as I could find and I was a little surprised at how few end user case studies there were on the menu and so that was kind of kind of interesting is a lot more technical focus and there's a few I'm going to go there this one I thought was really cool the high schoolers guide we always have somebody there who makes you feel like you should be a grandparent now and this one this guy has been doing a lot of work around Kubernetes I so I'm definitely going to tune in and see what he's doing here but there's a ton of stuff here so what I thought I would do is I'll go back and my slides here because I'm going to make make Josh go first and this was the couple of slides that he was talking about so Josh yeah so I'm going to be spending a lot of my conference time off campus because among other things Chris and I are going to be running these office hours sessions so one of the things that the main kubcon program doesn't really permit you to do is have sessions that have high interactivity with the project maintainer and it's just because of the platform required to do video broadcast to so many people so we thought we would hold a few sessions where we would bring project maintainers for projects that Red Hat sponsors and or you know other experts and have them there to answer your questions and so you can get to this from the Red Hat landing page you can get to this these are all going to be an OpenShift TV so this is also on the OpenShift TV schedule all of these sessions you know we're going to start with members of the k-native team talking about answering your questions on serverless applications followed by members of a staff team answering your questions about Rook and then the kubvert folks are going to talk about using kubernetes to run your VMs and actually that particular session because this is what they're looking at they're going to spend a lot of time talking about and answering your questions about getting to kubvert 1.0 which is where the project is right now Red Hat Agile team is going to be talking about implementing get ops so if get ops is something that you have heard of but you don't really know what it is or you know what it is but you don't know how it relates to your actual production environment at work then that would be a great session to come to you can ask questions about it because we get a lot of questions about certifications at these conferences the Red Hat certifications team is going to be holding a Q&A so if you're interested in getting your OpenShift certification or even your REL certification and you had questions that's the place to come and then going to wind up with our developer advocates talking about the features and answering questions about the features in 4.6 so if any is interested you please come and please bring your questions i mean these these are here we're doing these specifically off the kubecon platform so that we can spend time directly answering your question yeah i think one of the hardest things is to have that sort of interactivity too there'll be chat rooms and the booth and all kinds of other fun stuff inside of the platform that they're using i think it's in trotto again but what's been really difficult is finding great ways to host workshops and hands on and really have some high interactivity so this i think will be a great opportunity for folks if you're interested in these topics that's that oh yeah and speaking of swag from earlier by the way if you do bring a question to one of these sessions and you ask your question um and we answer it on air then we will also send you a t-shirt assuming that you live in a country we can send t-shirts to rather than there being a couple of exceptions yeah um the um but but for anybody else we will mail you a t-shirt cool so what's on this nice side of not so this is just this is a list of um a bunch of the sessions that are being led by redheaders hold another page of ones that are maintainer sessions i actually realized that a couple of uh no no they're not missing okay these are there's two different programs at kubka right there's the regular sessions and there's the maintainer sessions so the regular sessions are the ones that go through the normal submission process and are chosen for being appropriate presentations and everything there's the maintainer sessions and basically every kubernetes sig every cncf project every cncf sig is entitled to one of those and they put together a presentation about something that they have going on right then and because red headers are involved in so many of those groups they're involved in so many of those presentations i don't have that the maintainer session list just kind of assume that if you go to maintainer sessions probably going to be a redheader on the panel um the um well we actually have a lot of cool stuff so in the stuff that we're presenting we ended up with a lot of sort of day two stuff um or this kubcon um and fun stuff too like um uh the one that starts off there is jeffrey seeka um and at least one of his collaborators are going to do honk ctl or honk cuddle again um this is a live hack kubernetes contest um you know so if you're into it you download a kind image and then you try to meet a challenge that requires hacking kubernetes through it um the um the name honk cuddle comes from the untitled goose game um and then we have a lot of day two things like um ryan talking about admission control um the rook seff folks talking about how storage can fail um hi the um r performance the the performance group um for kubernetes actually our performance group um within red hat talking about um scale and you know how they test scale and performance um on an ongoing basis so a lot of really useful like for for a lot of for any people here who have already adopted kubernetes in their environment or adopted other cloud native technologies in their environment um have them in dev have them in test are looking at moving to production there's gonna be a lot of great content yeah so that's that's just it's it's packed so i know we're leaning these are we're talking about the red hat stuff so i just want to quickly jump over and just show you that all of this i believe is set up really a lot of it um should i be here on this um red hat page and um so if you just google that there's a oh yeah quick go pass that um all of these things yeah i have avoided doing a keynote at at kubekan successfully until this year because i had no excuse um because it was virtual and i couldn't say anything about it so okay um this is but there's a ton of them there's also maybe jen you want to talk about um finding the raffle and doing the booth yeah so we're going to be promoting this landing page which of course has a list of all the information about the red hat presence at kubekan next week and so i just have to make clear that if you're a hatter or you work for the government unfortunately you're not eligible to enter this raffle um but we do have a bunch of amazon gift cards we're going to be handing out so all you got to do is go on this landing page and fill out your information and then you're entered to win a three hundred dollar amazon gift card if you go to the red hat booth within um the platform itself we will be giving out red hat swag uh and the swag that we're going to be giving out some cool red hats so to be sure to do the landing page to be eligible for the amazon gift card and then come to the booth itself within the platform for kubekan and then you'll be eligible to win a it's and it's a really nice scarf um and we've got um a bunch to give out so if you'll drive by both those places you'll get some pretty cool thing yeah so um there i'm going to stop sharing i'll throw the link to that landing page in the chat and we can surface that through the rest of the universe here i think that's the right page or that gets you to the arcade at least so i think that's you know this i think that's the really um that's going to be the interesting navigation thing through the ui of the platform trying to find the booth and all of that so chris what are you besides the office hours that you are hosting with josh what what are you going to be looking at so like i always go and watch my friends talk right and i like to cheerlead my friends i'm sorry y'all are gonna deal with that right like cheerleading virtually is a lot harder um than sitting in the front row and kind of just being there being that calming presence for my buddies um so like i will go to a lot of talks from my friends at apple that have gone over there recently um definitely my friends at cncf um people like steven augustus if he's doing a talk but gp right like he lives in michigan george casher lives in michigan bob bob kelan lives in michigan and then um like those talks i'll go to but then kazan fields is part of the upstream marketing team and that's the team that i'm working with right now in the kubernetes community extensively and they're doing a talk about like how we have all these tools to help you get the word out about your projects but there's like we need to get the word out about it so they actually got accepted due to a cube con talk to talk about the marketing upstream team and that's that's very very cool so i'll definitely be tuning in for that so how about you jen do you have a bunch that you you're going to try and get to i know did you are you on the menu this time or did you get a talk in because i know you know i didn't i didn't i didn't i didn't um submit a talk for this one but um i'm going to be bopping all over the place i mean i actually haven't filled out my sked because i'm procrastinating of course i'm going to check out your super awesome keynote yeah um and i do like the end user stories and i'm going to look at the headers um you know i'm going to try to get to everybody's session even if i have to go after the fact and check out the recordings but there's always super cool content that i love um to attend a cube con and i'm going to try to check out some of the office hours so i don't know like i'm a procrastinator maybe i shouldn't say that because i'm an event planner but i procrastinate um but we've got some really really cool stuff and i always love checking out the community talks right like you know my loves for the upstream so i enjoy kind of seeing what's going on um in those projects so i'll definitely probably check out a bunch of those talks yeah i think this this one of the things that's amazing about this is i i kind of feel like if i don't know if i see some a project a maintainer project that i don't know anything about i'm more likely to go to that like um what is it chub chub os or whatever or chob fs or you know they're like there's these new things popping up um all the time and if and for the most part it's the incubated and graduated ones that got named sessions but um on monday there were 38 things in the sandbox and then on tuesday i got an email and we um i had to add i think i have a trello board that i track everything cncf that i'm involved in or that i should be paying attention to and i think i added six more um project sandbox projects and um i don't think all of them like all three what are the 42 or 43 there are now um have any called out slots but i look for the people who are leading those in some of this like the sig talks and um other places to try and you know just catch up because it's just this fire hose of information that we have to wrap our heads around and stuff and i don't know justin i can see your face on the screen here did you have anything that you were you were interested in um going to or are you speaking at kubka on this time i think that's just heck no i'm gonna listen to you all no no i i'm just uh on because i signed up for the um booth babe duty for for the chat room all right comments all right yeah commons it's going to be an interesting animal this year because um kubka is um there's just so many we're doing um the rosa launch that uh open shipped on amazon serverless 1.1 launch announcement we have some great talks um stephanie churrus whom um chris uh interviewed a while back on open shift tv um is going to do our opening talk we coerced matt hicks to give us um 10 minutes of his time and um the 4.6 and beyond talk um with live q and a with folks like clayton colman and um derrick car and mike barrett and anette cluett and paul morrie and reese oxham will be there and theoretically um even though a lot of the talks um are pre-recorded all of the speakers have um asked uh been asked and are willing to um be there for the interactive chat bits so um that you might not see their faces or voices but they're all there to answer your questions during the talk so it's really an interesting thing trying to figure out how to how to make things engaging in this virtual world and i was wondering if each of you had like a little thoughts about what what you like to see in conferences like how you like to connect with people and different things what's the best thing you've seen in a conference lately for connecting chris can you think of anything uh yeah i mean that there's always that common interest right and you have to figure out like who are those people that are there with the common interest of you at the same time right and it's harder now in the virtual landscape right but i think i think cnc has to do the slack channels again right so that kind of makes it a little bit easier to kind of figure out like okay these people had similar technical interests um but like my technical interest is so like wide and like not very deep um so like i like to network with as many people as possible and that is kind of easier on the virtual side but yeah i mean you've got a volume of people there that you can like ping and talk to and like you can walk into a chat room and be like hey i'm super interested in this and people will chime in but they have to be the chime in and that's kind of the hard part right like are you going to pass somebody in the hall wearing your you know Thanos shirt and be like hey i work on Thanos you know or something like that and you're not going to get that whereas in the past it'd be very obvious hey i work on that project you know and you would talk meet somebody randomly in the hallway so trying to regenerate that experience right like uh i think last cube kind of did a lot of posting on twitter kind of like early in the morning to kind of preface kind of like how my day was going and or going to go and what i would be doing so i'll be doing a lot of that again so that i can like hopefully get people to the right place the right time kind of thing yeah i think that's it how about you josh what's your best tip for connecting with people like turning on your first first best tip is turn on your mic the um and i would say you know make use of of session chat where it's available because the advantage of session chat is obviously you have something in common already with everybody else in the audience right because you're interested in the session and um you know to the extent that various people involved with coup con are offering sessions or extra activities that that offer more interactivity than the sort of main program sessions do um take advantage of those because interactivity means not just interactivity with the speaker but also interactivity possibly with the other attendees um i think there's another security competition that's team-based somebody is running um yeah and so obviously that would be a good way to to sort of connect with people um the other thing is i believe generally confirm that that they'll be using cncf slack for the conference yes so yeah we will have a flat channel again for the conference yeah so the the conference channels will be on cncf slack but cncf slack is actually available year-round right so if you have a connection there if you have a private chat with somebody there you can maintain that after the conference follow up with people after the conference better um so uh you know ian you know if you look beyond the conference channels there's a whole bunch of channels there for all the cncf sigs and a bunch of the cncf projects and that sort of thing um and so it's a good way to connect with people that continues after the conference is over yeah i think that's that's the thing that that i'm noticing is like i'm pretty sure this um coup con and and open shift commons are both inside of the intrado platform um which is you know you have to register and log in and be there and you're there for the day but then afterwards it it you know rarely i don't think any of the chats available or anything like that it all gets turned off and that you you lose that you can watch the you know the the talks again and repeat that but um both open shift commons and i'm pretty sure all of the cncf stuff is going to get uploaded to youtube afterwards as well so the morning after um open shift commons hopefully everything will work out well and i'll synced up everything but then um i'll make all of the content available on youtube for people to share and from all the talks and i think i have 15 talks um in one six hour day so there's there's a lot of binge watching that could go on afterwards so like if you miss something look for it in youtube afterwards um or the night before um a talk look for the old ones is what i tend to do is to see if i've seen it before so um yeah there's a lot of um good content up on on youtube both on rh open shift our channel and on the cncf channel as well so jen what's your tip for connecting online virtually any yeah i mean i would concur with josh to do the session chat i i find that the session chats are probably among the most interactive places i've seen to be honest and i mean the upside of the session chat is a lot of speakers are watching themselves for better so you can actually ask questions of the speakers as they're watching their awkward subs present but um i i find that that interactivity is probably highest there and you know and i'll just say that it's just really hard to replicate the kind of serendipity that you have like you know crystals are referring to going down the hallway and seeing some of the t-shirt or even talking at the booth and you know it's hard to have those casual conversations you know and you know that those casual conversations are sometimes you know kind of springboard to larger conversations so i mean i'm just that part um of events we still get it sometimes like sometimes if i go into a chat like a general chat someone will recognize me and then we'll have a you know nice little virtual love fast for everyone recognizes each other um so i i do enjoy those moments so i mean part of it is just engage um if it looks like there's not a lot going on feel free to bump the chat there are probably people hanging out there in the background i'm out you know like we try to encourage folks on the red hat side like if they see someone in or the room to say hey how are you we see that you'd come in but sometimes you know folks aren't always super vigilant about that so i would say if you know you really have a question or something that you want to dress go ahead and bump it there's a likely someone lurking in the background they may have just been tired of doing 20 million greeting uh you need to be the one person they don't greet so yeah yeah well that's that's the thing i think it's um between the slack um the open ship tv the the chat rooms with the sessions the chat rooms without the you know outside and the booth and that there's a ton of places to go back and forth between and i think i'll have three laptops set up i don't know how many you guys are each going to have but i know chris has multiples here but i'm going to have one one for commons one for kubcon with a different email address because you have to have different um you can't have two in trotto sessions open at the same time is what i've been told now so just so you know um because i would guess it's because in trotto is using the video um that it would just we couldn't and so anyways that's an interesting but i think the other aspect that i really like about this is um and i'm going to use the word i was teasing somebody yesterday about this um and this is where the bingo cards came up with it's sort of the democratization of access to this content because um where commons we used to get between five and seven hundred people to an open ship commons gathering that was side by side with kubcon or redhead summit we have five just under five thousand people who have registered for the commons event now and and i think the same the similar exponential growth in registrations for kubcon i don't know jan if you know how many people have registered they kind of never tell us that really yeah and i haven't heard yet they're pretty they keep that pretty close to the i mean you know for the for e you i know that they had i guess around the 20,000 mark i think i'm guesstimating around there and in person i think in i'm standing here really a year ago yeah it was i think it was like yeah yeah so um so it's slightly higher i mean the kubcon does charge for their registration so like you can't really benchmark it like against summit earlier this year we had a crazy number of registrations partly because summit was free and also it was one of the very first virtual large-scale events and um the trend that we've been seeing is that you know there's kind of a drop-off i think there's a lot of virtual fatigue like that's very real so people aren't going to every single event that they can possibly get to i think the people are really interested in the topics are going which i think is good news i think you want to have people who are really interested and engage with your content to be the ones going and not necessarily the dry buys that you know you know log off after 10 minutes or whatever but it's also a really good opportunity for things like um uh people who are very new to kubernetes and so i think there's some there's a quite a few things on the menu and the agenda for kubcon for um for new folks getting just getting involved is there a uh a sig contributor series of sessions josh you know on boarding is there this time around no no not so much um so we've been we've been working on making the new contributor workshop into a self-service online resource um but between the various things that have happened in 2020 um everybody you know there's like 30 people working on that but everybody contributing to it is running behind so we're hoping to have something online by the end of the year but we'll see is that like a catacoda class or something of that nature no um combination of videos and text content uh not not anything particularly complicated um the um so because it's not it's not about using kubernetes is about contributing to kubernetes and getting involved in the community which catacoda is not really set up for um right the um and although one part of it the technical part of it the local building test is being put together by the folks in new zealand um so hippie hacker and his crew is putting it together based on this interactivity platform that they developed for packing on kubernetes um and so that one we will actually have some also scheduled one-on-ones being offered um once we get it up and running because that way you can actually go through it with a mentor and share screens even intercontinentally um the um and this is actually something we talked about for a while even before covid it shut everything down because yeah due to the amount of schedule conflicts the people who really wanted to who we really wanted to attend the new contributor workshop weren't necessarily the people who were showing up because it was competing with 30 other events um and um and so we were talking about moving it online even before we had to move it online but yeah we were talking about it in san diego how we could make this better the one bit the one bit that we do have for a different kind of of new involved thing is so there's also a sick contributor strategy for the cncf which i'm part of and we are doing a public session for people who have projects that are new to the cncf so there's this whole cncf maturity process where you get in as a sandbox project become an incubating project you become a graduated project and there's these thresholds of things you need to have for your project to reach each of those levels and so we are doing a sort of micro workshop to help project leaders whether they are looking they have a cloud native project they're looking to get it into sandbox in the cncf or they have one that say in the incubating and they're looking to get to the graduated level i mean it's one of the big things that we do as a sig and so we'll be doing it with a live q and a um during the conference so if anybody listening actually is a project leader or organizer community manager you know product manager at a company that has cloud native products and you're interested in that please dial in for that um we'll have about 10 minutes of presentation and the rest will be your questions that that'll be awesome yeah i think that i this i've got this idea in my head though is that there ought to be a way to set up a catacoda lesson that makes walks you through doing your first pull request on a piece of documentation on a project and i'm sure that github or get get get lab or one of the get the companies yeah it was something like that part of the part of the contributor workshop is doing we have like a sandbox for you know like testing your first pr and yeah that is part of the contributor workshop yeah it doesn't run catacoda um no it's just no it just runs on github basically the um and it's a it's a mock repository um in kubernetes sigs but it has all the bots enabled which is one of the things that you're learning there right and so every time we've had people holding these at meetups where they hold you know their own mini new contributor workshop at meetups and so they create a folder there with its own approvers and owners and stuff and people can learn how that part of the process goes there's obviously a lot more to it but getting the mechanics out of the way means that you're not trying to figure that out at the same time that you're trying to get somebody to review your pr yeah i think that's that's actually that's i wish i would hope that there had been um more of more of a kubernetes 101 um talk or something i didn't find one like that like the very very basics for very very new people did anything like that get in the door through the cfp i know you were on the committees yeah well that wouldn't have been the track i was on even even if i had and um i couldn't i just ran through sketch while we're talking i apologize for the dog in the background i could not find one either yeah that that's it yeah it has not been a goal of the um it has not been a goal of the the conference chairs have that kind of content um maybe it should be maybe there should be but that would honestly require the creation of an explicit beginner you know newbie whatever yeah because i will yeah i will just say just from having been to um almost every single cube con that the demand for kubernetes 101 content um has increased massively and that was actually one of the biggest pieces of feedback that i got from attendees that came by um was that a desire a really strong desire for kubernetes 101 and so i don't know if there needs to be a recognition that there's a shift in some of the attendee demographics um especially as interest in kubernetes continues to rise um i don't know i'm just gonna put my two cents in there but i think it's something that maybe we need to consider somewhere yeah i think actually this may be partly this may be significantly changed by the move to online because i mean let's face it when it was in person you had to buy a very expensive ticket pretty far in advance to get in and as a result the number of people who got in who were cloud native curious was not huge um and i'm not sure that anybody's really looked at shifting the content so the answer is to actually give that feedback to the conference chairs in the cncf and say hey and and i'll say as somebody who's been a good track lead for various tracks um we really need um that would need to be a separate track because if you're a track lead for the storage track yeah you're not going to balance a what is cloud native storage against what are the latest features on open ebs um it's it's really hard to evaluate yeah um there's a i think it's also and i we you can go to try open ship dot com or learn open ship dot com there's a lot of vendor stuff and i mentioned at the beginning i'm you know on i think it's thursday it's noon or one uh one montreal time like there's so many courses out there already i'm going to be part of a master class on cloud computing and we were rehearsing last night but the very basics of what is cloud computing right that track that track is definitely necessary somewhere along the line uh you know and um and i did see i have to say it in san diego which is where i the joke i was going to make earlier today is that we first we did um gatherings in person on dry land then we went to the ocean and um we were on a boat in san diego for the open ship commons i think that was us getting transitioning to this virtual reality that we're going to have to do next we're going to be virtual and next it's all going to be with my oculus rift um and we'll have a virtual reality uh open ship commons gathering at some point um everybody get your your vr gear set up for that is there any good vr gear that doesn't require me to log into facebook we could have a long conversation about never mind sorry but i think you know the vendors do a lot of good um intro level stuff but it would be great now that we have virtual because we have always talked about separating out to like contributor summits and and if you look at day zero there's or other things like they have prom com and all of these things but just it would we're going to get a lot of newbies i think um especially with the democratization and the openness and the lower cost um there and and that's you know i think that's definitely on the radar should be on the radar for the next go around so i wanted to um we have like 10 minutes left to talk a little bit about um staying healthy and sane for a week of virtual stuff and what your tips and tricks are and i'm going to show one more piece of swag um and i don't even know if this company still exists i'm sorry if they do um so you know oh yeah they still exist they still exist they're around that that was my swag from i don't know which kubecon probably san diego but stay hydrated drink a lot of water and the other tip that i always have is on my iphone watch it reminds me to stand up every once in a while and stretch because those are the two things when you've got multiple screens going on and you're going crazy for me if i don't remind myself that i even have the breathe app which i think is hilarious on my iphone it tells you when to breathe like yeah if i haven't been breathing for the past 20 minutes then we're in trouble but um yeah it's definitely good one so uh gen what are some of your tips for survival um well i i booth duty that will definitely stay hydrated and definitely walk around a little bit too you know i mean um it's you know it it's funny because the time can go by pretty quickly and i you know i'm still guilty of this because i feel like my virtual meetings i mean i've always worked for a minute but the virtual meetings have gone way up but definitely walk around um take the time to interact with people around you like go ahead and you interact with your pets and your family you know make some time there um i think you know that's a kind of a sanity check because one of the things of course it's missing from events is like actual interaction with live creatures but you know i i would definitely you know incorporate that into your day somewhere um and then you know i would also eat and we can all we could all uh compare notes on the best virtual conference food that we have on twitter again we'll all take snapshots of our food that we're eating and and that's probably the best conference food that we will have eaten in quite a while you know it won't be a weird you know sandwich in wax paper with you know mystery ingredients so in the ubiquitous apple or banana yeah yeah you can have you can you can get like you know you know tarot chips or something like that something cool and funky of our games yeah i think that yeah up the food game yeah that's what i think you could do that that would be good how about you josh what's your um tip for staying sane out next week well aside from the get up and move around one of the things i actually have is i have an exercise bike with a laptop stay undetached to it but that actually allows me to get some activity while still continuing to watch sessions um the um and um and do take breaks schedule breaks in there i mean one of the things that you end up getting tempted to do and cancel some of your regular meetings yeah like if your co-workers haven't done it already the idea that you're going to watch and participate in all these sessions and then somehow pack your regular meetings and other work in between um it's just not going to work out well for you like like you might do it for one day one and a half days and then after that you're going to bomb out yep um and you'll end up missing some of the sessions you were the most looking forward to though um and and the other advantage of it being an online conference is hey if there's time slots that there's just nothing interesting in skip those time slots you use them as as time off mm-hmm and i was i always remind people um after the fact if you miss something or like if someone looked at my schedule right now um a lot of the sessions um are in competition with each other like there's three in in one hour and i don't yet i know you were on that i'm not going to rank on anybody but it's like nobody knows what particularly my interests are this but oh i'm not involved in scheduling scheduling is just a nightmare so just know that you know go to the one that's interesting and know and if you have three friends presenting it all at the same time make sure that they know that you're going to watch it in the on the youtube and um like with all the common stuff it's going to be on rh open shift youtube in the cncf channel um you can always watch it later and cncf is really good about getting stuff up within the next day or two afterwards and and i really am encouraging people to netflix netflix binge watch um the commons content um do that thing where you get the digital nudge it just goes to the next one goes to the next one in net and netflix and i know that sounds boring to other people outside of this world but it's really um i've been really watching a lot of other people create playlists i'm watching them and it's you have it on the back i have another screen i'm looking at over there and it's just playing the background and you're like oh and it's subliminal it gets in somehow it seeps in and i now know everything about key lime that i never ever thought i'd mean it's like little things and i even though i do all the commons briefings it's not anything there so chris what's your what's your super secret technique for no like i do a lot of live streaming right right so like that's my day job now so i have a lot of handy dandy snacks that i keep on hand uh that are like literally right there so i can grab them very quickly and not have to go very far uh they're high protein snacks you know very nutritious low-fat kind of thing so like it's it's not something that i'm gonna like reach for and just constantly eat right like don't get your favorite snack to keep on hand right like keep a snack that will sustain you if that makes sense and water obviously hydrating walking around i'm very fortunate in the sense of what is that the box of red wine if you want to know how i'm gonna survive next week it is the apoc this whatever it's i think it's um a british columbia is that where it's oh it's california so you guys can get it down there in states but yeah a box of red wine is always handy to have a red red hat so it's all in there so yeah that's definitely um that'll be empty by the end of next week uh but there's a lot in prop two toast going on right diane you'll be toasting a lot of yes congratulations yeah exactly but definitely stay hydrated and do all the all the stretching and and exercise things and there are some really nice little happy hour things um q and a's in the evenings um pre-uncle charmers hosting a number of them so i definitely think there's lots of things um you can do to stay sane and not be overwhelmed and uh you know and i do think i'm gonna have to host the bingo game i think i might be um printing figuring out how to print all of those put up the pdf somewhere and commons for people to download um their own and print off their own cards and we can see who plays bingo there and all i got to do is um add them out there in the gathering yeah and gathering or something i think that would be but there's also this the buzzword one too i knew besides the names of the projects because i think some of them like key lime or um all porters porters in there there's like this there's so many sandbox ones it's like trying to find and those are the ones for me that's really key like argo i know you know Thanos i know all these things you know i know genuinely what they are like you were saying chris we're like we know just enough to know where to point somebody to go to find resources so we don't look like an idiot um too often um but that's it's really i think one of the think the key things is just to stay healthy and stay safe and um i'm gonna throw up the the red hat no i'm not gonna throw up i'm gonna throw up the red hat screen so if you're you're up for it um you can scan this in and um and get to you know the guided list of everything red hat but i would say um really think about um yeah there's lots of other stuff use sketch um i use it because otherwise i forget to go to things um and um yeah it's gonna be gonna be an interesting thing the commons is gonna be lots of fun i'm so looking forward to having chris having you do the do the the science mystery theater version of it and um and hopefully i will get to get it together to supply you all the urls and links for everything um so that you have them handy for that and then um the for me the okd working group again um on friday this is just before the office hours that um we scheduled it so you could go to the open source okd working group and then the open shift 4.6 office hours that um that uh josh was talking about will happen right afterwards so you can go from being an okd fan um i just found out um yesterday cern is is upgrading theirs to 4.6 as soon as we get okd out for 4.6 we have a couple little balls so yeah i was really that made my day yesterday i'll have to get them to come and do a talk at the okd working group but i think that's um you know that's kind of um what i was i think and would be the great thing is today to just kind of do this and you know i'm going to stop sharing again for a second but one of the things i think is that i miss is seeing everybody's faces so i'm like incredibly grateful for you guys coming here today hanging out with us and for everyone who's been hanging out in the chat and watching online um i'll put this up on our youtube channel uh but i do encourage you really make the most of kubcon look for us in slack on twitter in the red hat booth try out for some of the red hat raffles and other things like that but um i think we should have a recap one of these after kubcon um like oh yeah after um so i i'm going to challenge you the best online swag um and find the person the new person that you met um what what new person did you meet that really um you thought was a great connection um at kubcon so challenge everybody who's out there and so maybe in two weeks time we'll have another one of these sessions and our recap um where where what happened and um do all that and i would be remiss to say if i i can't i have to say that um i really wanted to give um my condolences to to dan cohen's family he did huge huge huge thing lifting up all of the cloud native projects and building out this um wonderful community and he's going to be the thing that i miss the most at um this thing is connecting with dan so somewhere up there he'll be watching us hopefully maybe he's singing some john prine songs and not really caring too much about what us but annoying him he probably um would be looking down on us so um thank you dan for everything you did and um putting up with all the headaches we caused you but um and doing it so graciously so cool plus one three there you go well it's 10-01 at least in my time zone and i still have some work to do to get ready for the commons um and i'm sure everybody else here has stuff to do so thank you for joining us and we'll see you next week at commons and gubkan and okd working groups and office hours and on openshift tv so um take care all and thank you for yeah bye everybody thank you thank you damn