 All right, call to order the meeting of the Arlington Redevelopment Board for Monday, April 11th, 2016, recorded by ACMI. First, on our agenda this evening is a discussion and vote as far as our report to town meeting. In front of you, we have the revised report. Just some changes were submitted by myself and by my care. Jenny, do you want to go over what's happened? Mike had, thank you, submitted comments actually before I sent this draft report to you, so I already folded those into the report. And then after I did that, Andrew sent this version in with track changes and I decided to keep it this way for tonight. And you can see any new things since the last time that you reviewed it. So I think just this evening if there are any additional changes that you want to see in it that we can make, you could move to the job set through the Full H-Town meeting with some amendments if you feel that those are necessary. But we have to submit this by tomorrow, with an understanding. We're on the tight deadline because of course last week would have been more ideal time to submit the report. So I don't know if you need me to give any more of an overview of the report. I think we all understand what it is. I think that's fine. We all have a chance to review it, submit comments. Yes, and I did not receive anything other than from... I have a few comments with pretty many of them. Well, go ahead. I think you picked up some of the things I had too. On other articles, six. New page. New page three. Okay. Build. Someone's putting Foster, which is good. Foster. I would just say Foster, vibrancy, which will help. Okay. Even better than a sense. On conflicting requirements, I think that's right. I was going to say overlapping, but it is conflicting requirements. And then I think that one's fine. The second paragraph. Yep. And then working my way down on... There's another allow, which I would turn to Foster. I think that's a better word. And that is on the communities... Oh, say here. Communities, that paragraph? Oh, community. Foster growth. Allow. A way to foster growth. The way to allow it. Okay. I think we've really got this one. Which we... Building setback page four. And you have upper story building setback. Isn't it stepback? That's actually in our article. So that's not something... Okay. But did you mean, do we mean... We're on page four under the definition. I think setback is right because... I think this is correct. Yeah. It describes what the stepback is. I think you define a stepback as a setback. Okay. Okay. Okay, good. That's okay. I've noticed that you have such a nice introduction. We have such a nice introduction to the next use. Which includes the parking. That's on page three. Yeah. Vibrancy. But there's not an equivalent for article eight, where we start launching into residential. I'm just asking, maybe not for now, but something that will allow that same kind of a start off, is if the article eight, you just jump right into it. Right. Whereas for those other two, we have a whole page. We have a whole page. I'm just asking maybe for the future. That's too late back now. Yeah. I mean, there's basically a paragraph on this. Where? It's after, right, embedded in each one of the articles has a paragraph introducing the article, and then the vote. I'm under... I'm right here. This is the paragraph. I'm sorry. It's the second paragraph under article eight on page 18. So this is basically the introduction to why we're doing it, and then your vote. I realize it's not a... It's not a description. A description. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No problem. Although I will say in the introduction, like there is a lot in there about things that relate to article eight through ten. It's sort of all encapsulated in there, and then we happen to say more about article six in particular. Okay. I could try to weave other things or keep it the way it is. I think you've got to get this done, right? Right. I've got to get this done. I believe it is. I would recommend it. I think it's okay. But I think we'll have to think for the town meeting... Yes. ...of a way to give an overview of eight, nine, and ten. I agree. And I think that there's our... This is the report to town meeting about how you voted and why you voted and why we're moving these things forward. Mm-hmm. And then there's how we decide to talk about our town meeting, and there's a little bit of a difference between the two, I think, in the end. There will be. And also how we do it, these outreach meetings. Exactly. In fact, we'll be discussing it more at the outreach meetings than we will at town meetings, because if no actions move forward, then we don't talk about them. That's right. Right. So, I mean, I guess most likely there will be some put in instead. But still, I mean... Substitutes. Substitutes. Substitutes, yeah. Okay. Any other comments? Okay. Okay. I will ask for a motion. I'll move to approve the report of the Arlington Redevelopment Board or what we have in hand with the changes that we discussed, including Andy's couple changes. So, right now, I'll move to approve that as our report to town meeting for 2016. I second that. All in favor? Aye. Good. Thank you. Next up is the outreach to town meeting members. Thursday, Central School, 7 o'clock. Yes, there is. And I think there was something debated in your original board packet. Yes. As well as the letter that we sent to town meeting members that Laura prepared. I'll just pass it down to you. Oh, you do. So, this was on the 14th. And Laura and I have put together an agenda for the forum. I brought... Do you want to... Come on. I don't want to... All right. And I'll put on... You're on a 7.15. Okay, we'll make this very quickly. So, we thought what we would do is basically provide for some obviously welcome introductions. Andrew will be there. So, Andrew might end up kicking this off. We can talk about that. We thought we would also talk about sort of the role of the redevelopment board, the planning department, the master plan implementation committee. What do we all do? Why do we all do these different things? And then sort of get into a little more detail about the planning department, the different kinds of things that we're trying to advance, which of course has included in most recently the master plan, talk about the different kinds of things that have been implemented or are being implemented in the master plan, and then get into the warrant articles as part of that, the zoning warrant articles, and then actually talk about the zoning warrant articles. So, there's a little bit of like build up before we actually talk about the zoning warrant articles, but we wanted to provide sort of a background as to why we do the kind of planning that we do and why we do that sort of planning in Arlington in particular. Do you want to add anything? Well, I just to say that I think that there's a good number of committee members that don't really understand why they're being asked to make these changes and what the A or B's role is and what the staff role is and what their role is. So, I went to a precinct meeting yesterday and just started by telling people why they needed to approve the zoning. I think a lot of people don't like it very much. Changing or the changes of themselves? No, they don't like zoning. Yeah. They don't like zoning. The concept of zoning. They don't understand it. It's very complicated. And it's the first thing that we had. And it's the first thing that we had, which we should probably think about that. What do you mean the first thing? It's the first zoning, the first warrant articles are zoning. Oh, I see. Everyone's really geared up to, you know, make some government decisions. And the next thing you know, you're kind of bugged out. So you have to describe the concept of zoning. Right. Yeah, so we'll thread in those concepts. Well, what I've been hearing is people are reading these and then we've got understanding of the changes. And I think we've got to somehow simplify it such that it's easily digestible. People are reading it and they get all confused with the language and all these different things. We somehow get a small elevator speech about it. They say, this is what we're simply trying to do. These are the roles which, well, these are roles that we're simply trying to do. And the real symbols succinct. And I think that will permit people more to be assured of what's happened because people are just hearing stories from everybody and people come up to me saying, what's going on here? And are we going to have diagrams? We don't have to. I should have had those today but they did not come up. But I think that this thing on page two and three is really, really good. All of that stuff. Yep. Really pretty simple. Yes and no. It can have the introduction of Y zoning. But then I think we need it for this 8, 9, 10. That's all. Because those jump right into why is it three foot six instead of four foot six? That's hard to... That's when I think you get caught. What does that mean? Well, it means the overall... Limits the overall size of the house a lot. That's what it's for. And if we don't come across with a simple statement like that, you might as well say it, right? Because you're going to confuse it anyway if you don't. And you won't pass it. So if they get it to the weeds right away, according to the way I've seen town meeting go. Yeah. I mean, so if they don't like that concept, then that's okay. Right. That's a good choice. Right. You've got to come out with it right away. Yeah. Yeah, I actually got an email from... I don't think he's a town meeting member anymore, but asking me, well, even at 30%, how does that limit on a 6,000 square foot lot? How does that limit the gross floor area of the house? And I think what we should do is kind of put a 6,000 square foot lot up there. Gross floor area. Sorry. Gross floor area and say, okay, and now it's moving to 35%. Here is theoretically what would then happen. So that's what we're... I think we may have mentioned this the last time, but I'm not sure. We have David Gambell from Gamble & Associates helping us with the diagrams. Great. Or the different articles which will show this is what it looks like under current zoning. This is what we're proposing. Yeah. So that will get to what you're talking about. Yeah. I think that would be extremely helpful. Yeah. Absolutely. We'll have those for Thursday. Okay, good. I'll do that. All right. Is anyone else planning to be there? I'm planning on that. Is there a meeting there? It's next Thursday. It's Thursday. I'd like to try to be there. Yeah, I'm going to try to be there. So we should host that. I will do my best to be there. That's true. I can't guarantee it. Oh, okay. Yeah, actually that's true. I'm pretty sure it's posted as a public meeting already, but I'll make sure of that. And just so you know, too, at nine o'clock after that, there's going to be a precinct meeting with precincts 10, 8, 10 and 12. Really? Yeah, just to interject. So can we come back to the precinct meetings and just stick on the forum for a second? But it actually affects the forum. Okay, all right. So after the forum, they're having a planning meeting for the precinct meetings in 8, 10 and 12. Okay. So that's at nine o'clock after the forum. All right. So I was planning on staying because I'm a town meeting number 12. Okay. But I'm just letting you know that so that if you want to kind of get on the agenda for that precinct meeting, then that's what you want to do. Okay, they also have 8 and 10 as a precinct meeting. 24. 24. This is the planning meeting for the 24. Okay. And now 12 is going to be involved. So that's one of the questions that I had is who might, other than Laura and Ted, can attend on the 24th. I'm actually going to attend. So I'm a precinct member of 12. So I'd expect to go there if I can. Okay. I don't know what to my schedule yet for it, but I'd be there. Okay. I'm already on the 24th and I'm back on the 25th. I just want to make sure. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, so you can go to the Sunday meeting. I should be able to. I need to still check my schedule one last time. But I'm not sure whether to take my son to a game. So may I just. Yes. So then on that same day precincts two, three, four, six and seven have a meeting at three o'clock at the Hardy school. Can any of you attend that meeting? Laura and Ted are somewhat booked. That's the 24th. Also on Sunday at the 24th. Okay. So the eight and 10 and 12 is four to six p.m. at the senior center on the 24th. And then at three p.m. the other group of precincts. You'll be out of town. You'll be out of town. Yeah. So Mike's down for. I'm down for the four o'clock. Yeah. I'm going to have to. And I can see if Laura can go to that planning meeting. Yeah. I mean, if you want to give me instructions to. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can do that one too. I can do the four o'clock. But I can't do the. What was it? The three o'clock. Yeah. So the 24th is three o'clock. Mm hmm. And that one's at Hardy school. And Laura attended the one that happened yesterday. For. I forget the precinct. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have a presentation for this Thursday night for the forum. And I think it probably would be ideal to use that presentation in some way. In a mod, a very, very modified version. I think you only have like five or seven minutes maybe less. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if you're seven minutes maybe less. Okay. And, Andrew are you, you're gonna be at the forum? I'll be at the forum. And then we'll get at the forum. Yes. Well I, and who else will be at the two of you also? I'm gonna try. I'll try. I'll try to say no. Yeah. I'm gonna just say sorry. Keep trying. On the 24th, right? Yeah. Yeah. The two of you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so I'm going for a town meeting itself. Can you all do that? Yes. For the articles, yeah, at the beginning. Yes, OK. So we think that on the 24th, probably after the break? 25th. 25th, I'm sorry. 25th. 25th is when it starts. It's when it starts. Are we at first? You went. Well, we're at 6. They're talking to them. They may be sending me away for the week. They're threatening to. That sounds so drastic. It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. I'll tell you later. If I'm around, I will be there. That's for sure. OK. Are you sure? Yeah. Yeah. April isn't the issue. May is a little bit. May is the day's the one. April's fine. May should be fine, too, but. OK. I'm there. I'm going to town meeting them, so I'll take over the table for the duration. 25th. It's on Monday, though, isn't it? Yeah, Monday and then Wednesday. On Monday, Wednesday, and Monday and Wednesday. Many Monday and Wednesdays. Although, I would hear I'll be there. For what we've got to do, I'd say, oh, no. Actually, Wednesday is a special one. So. Oh, that's right. So it'll be Monday. And then Monday again. Most likely. What's at the special, I'm not sure. Is it schools? Is it the schools? OK, so it's, yeah, there's the possibility that we could do it Wednesday, then if we get through the special, but I doubt it. So then it would be the next Monday. Right. I just figured that probably Monday night, the 25th, this one will start six and five weeks. It's always good to have the board there at the beginning of town meeting, because of the introductions you've done. And plus, you should provide the report at that meeting. Yes. So, and usually when the report goes in, the introductions don't have the different board numbers. That's how you usually do it. And you will deliver the report, or I will deliver the report. You will deliver the report, OK? It's just literally just walking up and delivering the report. All right, so I think that we're going to have probably about 10 minutes to provide an introduction to six and seven. And then when we get to eight through 10, we're going to have about 12 minutes. So that's kind of the likely schedule in terms of presentations. So I'm just letting you know that that's the sort of introductory piece before the vote. Before the debate? Before the debate. So there's a seven minute threshold for time. Right, but I think that we're only going to really need about 10 minutes to do six and seven together. So you're going to do them together? Do them together, right. OK. And then eight through 10, as we've discussed with the moderators, we've talked to the moderators. Because that's important. Eight and 10 are also intended to go together, but we'll see what happens with the other articles as well. OK. Then how are they going to be presented? Which ones? The first two to start. The first two, that's where I'm working on this one. So in all likelihood, it will follow as we were talking about this report. I think this is a good model, but also bringing in other things to focus on sort of. Do we have a meeting before 10 o'clock? We traditionally do. Traditionally we do. We would have a 7 o'clock meeting, but 10 meeting begins at 8. So we would have to take it over. That's the only meeting we have. That's it. OK. So we'll have to divide up presentation or responsibility at that point. So do you want a meeting? I have the meeting on your schedule. Yeah, I think we'll definitely meet that night, since we'll all have to be here anyway. I think it would be a limited agenda. No hatch from business. Sorry, I just want to. So six and seven. And then so the moderator is OK with you presenting all of them at the same time? And for debate to. Six and seven, not all of them at once. Six and seven, then will we separate eight through 10? Yeah, eight through 10 is a separate conversation. Yeah. No, I know it's a separate conversation. But once again, are you expecting to do eight through 10 or 11? 10. Yeah, sorry, 10 as one grouping? To some extent, yes. Yeah, I think that we will not need more. We don't need seven minutes for each one. I don't think we need seven minutes for each one necessarily, but I think presenting them as a bulk presentation might be a little confusing. So I agree. And I think the other part of that equation is what is then debated by everybody? Yeah. And to debate everything at the same time, I'm actually kind of surprised that the moderator would want to do it that way. Because if six doesn't go, then the conversation on seven would be a lot lighter. And similarly on eight, nine, and 10, frankly. I think presenting six and seven together makes sense because they really are complementary warrant articles. I think dividing eight, nine, and 10 up into three separate presentations makes sense because of what might be discussed and because of the potential for confusion. OK. I think that also is contingent on a bit to some extent what happens with the other articles as well. I don't know what will happen. Well, I'm just. See, it's funny. I don't think seven is that related to six. I mean, I understand we need it in order to get six done, but seven is useful regardless. Because they would be voted on separately. They're not voted on together. It's just in terms of how we do the presentation. But it's the presentation of the discussion. I think the discussion. You don't want them not together. Yeah, that's my point. The way that this will work is, if you glom together, they will be taken up as together regardless of whether it's two votes or not. So OK. And I just fear that it's a lot to talk about in one debate because of you've got height increases. You've got setback and setbacks to kind of get over. And then you've got parking, which is always kind of a third rail in this town. And the only thing we're not talking about is it's trashier for another third rail. So maybe we can get that in here somewhere. But I guess that would be my concern. There's no reason why you can't hit up all of the important points and the general points you want to make about both articles and what good they'll do. And then just kind of give the second article a little bit of short shrift and said, like the first article, this will do these things. But it also provides flexibility in the way we live these days. I don't know. That's what I am. I think you might be right. So how does it actually go? So you get up and give a little introduction to one article? Remember, you got seven minutes to talk. To talk about the long time. To talk about. And then they do a series of things, hopefully. So that's a long time. You know, you think it is. You think it is. But it's not that long. So you just talk about that one. And then when it comes to the next one, do you give an introduction or do you just? Well, I think you do, because it's different. And you kind of state what it's doing as far as moving the parking down in these zones, moving it from 8 down to 25. We introduced that one. We introduced that one. And then debate. And then the other ones you're saying, also do the individual. So just do them all individually. Yeah. And I'm not saying that the first time you get up, you don't talk about holistically what we're trying to do. And under each case, that generally speaking, and you'll hear me say this in Article 7-2, so that way you're not actually opening up Article 7. You're simply saying, you will hear me say this for Article 7-2. 7 as well, that this is what's going to go on. Because if you bring up Article 7 in it, then that gets started for debate. Once you kind of bring it up, it's open. So you don't want to actually open it. Yeah. I think I see your point. And I think, given that we are going to be talking about parking in Arlington, that splitting it up and keeping it separate from an excuse discussion. Well, we just said how confusing zoning is. It is. And so let's at least take the time that we have to bring it off a little smaller bite. And I think Article 6 deserves its own attention without muddying it up for discussion on parking. So this gamble stuff, that's introducing all of 8, 9, and 10. It's going to have everything for it. Oh, everything. Yeah, not just 6 and 7. It's now working on 8, 2, 10. Then we wouldn't use that in 10. Well, I'll tell you what, though. I would be a little bit careful and maybe give him instructions around, can you split up the slides so that there's someone talking about a different article? Oh, that's what they are doing. Oh, good. OK, so Article 8 is this. Article 9 is that. So that's in the beginning. In the first seven minutes, you're going to talk about all? No. No, then we take each one as a concept. Each article has seven minutes. That's the way it all works. And the slides are organized? We haven't lost that seven minutes. But wait, I'm just going to switch to the next one. No, no, no, and I wasn't thinking you did. I was making a suggestion. The slides are organized, so you can break them up into first six, then seven, then eight, then nine. OK, let's check. So that would be sort of building one off of the other and probably threading through a theme. Right. In that case, yeah, I totally agree here. Best chance of getting through them. Because like 7, what is it? 6, 7, 8 is definitions. And that's pretty mild. 9 is 9 already with the 4 foot 6, 3 foot 6. No, that's an 8. 8 is bringing it down to 7 feet. And 8 is definitions. 9 is dimensions. Right, OK. Well, bringing it to, including 35%, and then the last one is still. That's right, the drag line. Yeah, OK. 9 would be the most difficult for a lot of reasons. So OK, we'll stick with this plan. OK. And we'll read with it sort of the presentation faces, I guess, on the 25th. Yeah, you and I can talk about that beforehand. Yeah, I mean, and the other thing is, if I can suggest, I mean, there's no reason why you can't send out slides and materials to us ahead of time. And we can give you feedback. We shouldn't give, you know, we should reply to all those other things else just to you. But, you know, I think it worked well here. And I think I know I'd like to understand what we're going to. Because I've definitely heard some questions already, and I'm telling the people to go, you know, Thursday. So OK. So that'll happen this week. Next week, I'm only in the office on Tuesday the 19th, and I'm out of town for the rest of the week. So hopefully you can give me all the feedback you have for that. It's almost as much about familiarity for me. I just want to understand what it is, how it is, that we're going to be talking about it. OK? Moving on. Updates a new business. Were any of you at the Housing Production Planning meeting? I know, maybe, I know, which I was supposed to be. So if we had the Housing Production Planning meeting last Thursday night, I would say it was a very interactive, well-run, well-managed meeting format for people to give input and information to the consultant team on the strategies and recommendations that are going to be in the plan itself. They separated it into regulatory strategies and local initiatives. I think there were about 35, maybe, more people there. The first part of the meeting was actually kind of like an open house where people could kind of mill around, provide on sticky notes, speed back on each of these different strategies and recommendations, and then also kind of just learn about the Housing Production Planning process. And then we actually sat in groups, set different tables, regulatory or local initiative strategies. And the consultant group went through each and every one of the regulatory strategies and all of the local initiative strategies. And so we did more feedback, answered questions. Then we had some small group discussion where we further vetted it, and also looked at it with potential development sites and got some feedback on those sites. And the next step is with the Housing Production Plan. We'll have a draft plan very soon. And we'll run it. Very soon, right? Yeah, yes. By the end of the month. So right now, Thursday, June, May 13th, is when we're going to have a draft. We're going to try to push for it to be sooner so that we have more time to get internal comments before it comes to you as a draft for your adoption, which I think we'll give in the first June meeting because I think that is the final result. And do we do that as a planning board? Like who? Yeah. Yeah, you have to adopt it, and then it goes to the board and select them also for adoption. And then it goes to DHCD for official approval. Yeah, Monday, June 6th. That was the Housing Production Plan in form. And then the Mass Ad. Mass Ad was the last item, actually. Oh, so another meeting after there was this Invisio at Arlington Center. Right, so this is a busy week. You had another busy week. So on Wednesday night, we have a meeting on Arlington Center. And it's kind of a joint meeting with the DPW and the Planning Department. And it will focus on improvements to Mass Ad between Pond Lane, where the East Washington project ended, and Bell Street. And I think it will be more than just the street. It will be streetscape and Bournemouth Plaza and sidewalk treatments, which are very problematic in the center. Just the brakes, as they are. So it should be fun. A workshop style. The HB will be there. Who? Wayne Amico. Those in charge. And they have like three other staff people who are attending. I don't remember. Boricastelli, Jeffrey. I don't recall his last name. And I don't remember his last name. Oh, Deterian, Steve Deterian. So this is just like the very beginning of a process to get visioning going, sort of the conceptual planning stage of things. And there will be also a meeting just with business owners in early May. And also a walk shop. Hopefully also in early May. So under the list, please. Sweetie, I'm sorry. Walk shop. And is it part and parcel of the other one, as far as mass DOT and stuff? Or is it? Well, at one time, the plan was to do Mass Ave. All the way? In one hospital. Yeah. And then Mass.F just split it up. OK. But we don't have funding yet. OK. So you have to go through that whole process again. This is just the intention, right? Yeah, yeah. To get to Mass.F funding. So they know you're coming. Yeah. Now, I don't, right now, the Complete Streets program only gives $400,000 a year. So that's not going to be enough to do this project. But if that program grows, we could potentially use those funds as well. As well as what DOT would be. Right. The usual. They pay for some of the, I mean, the design, right? Yes. They don't do that anymore. OK. So we have to raise that through other funds. Right. And so we've, where's paint? The planning department is paying some money out of CDBJ. CDBJ. Yeah. TPW is paying some money out of, um, capital plan. Yeah. But there's, there's no number on it. Construction cost. Oh, yeah. Good. We're not close to that. OK. They don't have a number in mind. No. Good. And this process. Let's go, yeah, right. It doesn't make sense. Right. This process would inform a design plan phase. So it's not even there yet. Gotcha. OK. Great. Yeah. It'll be great. OK. It could be a couple of years. It could be a couple of years. It could be some time. It is great though. OK. Thank you. You're welcome. Uh, minutes. Last meeting. Kim. Representations. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I hope so. I'll see what they did. I'll come back to you. Mike. Yeah. I have no. I have no. I read through the law. I was impressed. Yeah. I was very impressed. OK. At these minutes. Thank you. Thanks to Amy Fidago. Yeah. Yeah. It was an honor for her. Look how good she's gotten. Providing accurate minutes in the last couple of years. Yeah. I'll move to approve the minutes of. Oh, I'm sorry. Today. Of March 21st. 2016. That's presented. Oh, second. All in favor. Aye. Aye. OK. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. OK. Anything else? Yeah. What's happening with that hearing that we missed because of this? May 2nd. Yes. Because of it being a public hearing. We had to have time. Unfortunately when we heard that we didn't have the meeting last Monday it was too late. To put it at the same hour? Yeah, literally. Is during the meeting? Yeah, that would be. Yeah. before. And so we're also going to meet on the 25th. Before town meeting. Just from 7 to 8. Just from 7 to 8. Just be ready for town meeting. We don't have any meetings before that. Last minute. Strategy. Yes. Anything else? Did you assign parts? We did. Yeah, we've talked through all of them. We didn't assign parts. We didn't assign speaking roles. Not to town meeting. But for Thursday? To join with Thursday. Yes. I'll also answer. Yeah. Surely you can ask a question. No, Jenny and I will talk about that before Thursday. Okay, great. The only new thing is that there is a planning meeting for the precinct meeting on the 24th. That's happening at 9 p.m. on this Thursday night. So that would be like right after the public forum. Yeah, so right in the same spot as the public forum, 8, 10 and 12 are getting together on the 24th. And they're going to have a little planning session after. Right in the same room? Yeah, just I think the people were going to attend the public forum on Thursday night and then just kind of said okay. What time is that again? That's afterwards. It's just a plan. You don't have to. Okay. The other meeting is at 3, right? Yeah, yours is at 3. Okay. The other one is at the precinct meeting on the 24th. That's the precinct meeting on the 24th. That's the one at Hardee. No, no, no. Something different. Okay. We'll talk. Okay. We're meeting. Okay. Okay. Well, thank you. Yep. I'll move to adjourn. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.