 Jim, I know you wanted to jump in when there's no room. But just to take it forward, one tiny notch. Of course. That is that President Macron yesterday had a conversation with Mohammed bin Salman in Saudi Arabia. And one of the topics of their conversation was Afghanistan. So we don't know what they talked about. The Elysees is not saying. But in any case, that conversation about Afghanistan has taken place. Perhaps maybe leading to something further on opening of schools and who knows what. Secondly, I just wanted to take objection to your characterization of betrayal. The U.S. betrayal of Afghanistan. If it was a betrayal, it was a betrayal that was very costly. One the U.S. paid dearly for that betrayal. A trillion dollars and 6,000 lives. And so it wasn't a betrayal. It was a failure. Yes, and a general said that as much in a very humble way. I mean, they were totally humiliated in front of the Congress admitting that the Taliban were now in power. The enemy was now in power in Kabul. It was a failure. But betrayal, I don't go that far. I think it was a betrayal because as in Vietnam, in Vietnam in the Paris Accord, America said to the South Vietnamese will help you to fight. Stand for democracy. Stand for your values. And we will live in Vietnam where we wanted to replace the French in 55. We started, you know. But now we will help you. And then suddenly it was due to the Congress. I will not come back to that. But they were dropped. And then you had the Boat People and you had the Red Khmer and all what happened in Indochina. In Afghanistan, my point is that the United States was not compelled to do this nation building. Then what the first war, which was having Northern Alliance in Kabul, and they had killed, I was there, they had killed all these Arab internationalists, Jihadists that were in Afghanistan and dismantled all the cells and so on. They chose, they chose this nation building in the Bonn Conference. They chose it. And it was this ideology. Okay. So you want to do it. I mean success. And they said to the youth of Afghanistan, build information, build new medias. They said to the girls, I was there. I listened to what the Americans told them. I listened to what Kalilzad told them. I listened to what the American radio in Afghanistan was saying. They said, build your new, we will help you. Build your new society and so on. And they had done that. And a lot of youth in Afghanistan believed in this American values. They believed deeply. And these people have been dropped. Why? Because yes, they had built an army of 300,000 soldiers. But when you say, I mean, morale in the army, demoralization is very important. When you, and that was a major mistake of Biden and his generals were against it, you were right. When you say, we are going to drop a base, which is very easy to keep. And you give a message to your ally, this army that they formed. Okay. It's finished. And by the way, if you think that negotiating with the Taliban without inviting in Doha, the Afghan government and the Afghan army is not a betrayal. I don't know. I don't see any other word for that. That was Mr. Trump's decision. That was not Mr. Biden's decision. This is Trump's decision. That's right. Exactly. And Biden followed this policy. It's a betrayal. Maybe America lost a lot of money in Afghanistan. Sure, like it lost a lot of money in Mesopotamia and a lot of money in the China before 75. True. But if you tell me that negotiating the future of the country without inviting the government that you put in place in the Bond Conference is not a betrayal, I don't see any word for that. That was the previous administration. But let me just, and I'm not defending it. I'm not from the administration, so I can't speak for the administration. But let me just say that now, okay, the Americans have left. So now the field is open. So now let's just see who comes in to improve a lot of women, to educate the children of Afghanistan. Right. And I think the point. Human rights. Who's going to come in and fill the gap? Absolutely. I think the point you're raising is clear. That was the process that was initiated by Donald Trump. But it was seen through by Joe Biden. And I think in both cases, one could argue both decisions were primarily rooted in U.S. domestic political motivations. I think isolation does not help. Right. And we have an American embassy should have been kept open. You have negotiated. You guys given Afghanistan to the Taliban. But why close the embassy? I mean, okay, maybe Afghanistan needs a government, any government, because we must have no conservative, for God's sake, no conservative. They are right. They hate political dictatorship. And Taliban is a political dictatorship. But there is worse. We have to remember that there is something worse than political dictatorship. It's anarchy. And there is something worse than anarchy, which is civil war. Now in Afghanistan, we're between dictatorship and anarchy. A little bit of both. Please let now go back to civil war. So it's why we have to be there in Afghanistan to try to do the best so that a civil war does not resume in Afghanistan.