 All right, everybody, welcome to your one book show on this Saturday, I guess for you guys, it's afternoon, five o'clock Eastern time, one o'clock, no, 12 o'clock, two o'clock Pacific time. Here in Israel, I'm in Haifa, Israel. And it is 11pm at night. So the time difference between us is expanding, not shrinking. So thank you for joining me. Shows while I'm in Israel will be kind of an off hours for you guys just because I am six hours away from the East Coast. So it's it's a little tougher, a little tougher for you, a little tougher to do it earlier in the day. Thank you for joining me. A travelogue, a travelogue for days. What are we? What are we now, days six and seven on this trip? We're going to go all the way to 20 plus, 21, I think. And yesterday, I flew from what was it from Scotland through Berlin to Israel. You know, I find it interesting the different airports and their attitude to my asks. Berlin was very strict. As I told you, I think Brussels was very unstrict, was very lenient. So a lot of people in Brussels, Brussels, the center of the European Union, the hub of the European Union, very, very loose in terms of mask restrictions. So a lot of differences. It's interesting. Still have to wear masks on planes. I think it's British Airways is experimenting with planes with no masks. So hopefully that is a successful experiment and we soon can get rid of masks on airplanes. I'm certainly looking forward to that. It's it's a real pain to have to wear a mask on an airplane. Landed in Israel yesterday afternoon, went to my hotel, went to sleep, got up this morning, drove from Tel Aviv to Haifa where I am right now. I'm in this room at a hotel in Haifa. Probably, I don't know, one of the best views anyway. It's just magnificent. I'm sitting at the top of the Carmel Mountains, overlooking the Bay of Haifa. The whole place is lit up. You got the whole bay on a nice, on a nice day. You can see all the way to Lebanon in the north and you can actually in the northeast, you can sometimes on a really clear day see all the way to Syria. So you can see Syria, Lebanon, and Israel with the Galilee kind of laid out in front with a big Bay of Haifa and all the lights and everything arrayed in front of you. One of the one of the most spectacular views you'll see. Anyway, I've got it right here in my in my bedroom. So pretty cool. Pretty cool hotel room. And yeah, I'm spending spending a little time with family. So my brother, my sister, one of my sisters and my parents today and just hang out. So today was a pretty relaxing day. Yesterday was crazy because it was airplane airplane airplane airplane, you know, airplane Ryan air, which is pretty shitty plane, you know, experience and then easy jet, which is mildly better, but not much better. Spent a lot of time in in crummy airplanes yesterday. So I want to talk a little bit about as we do every night, every show, I think I talk a little bit about Ukraine, Russia, it is dominates the news is almost nothing else out there. You know, and I want to I want to say a few things, because we've talked a lot about strategy, we've talked a lot about, you know, who's going to win and what's happening and the details of that. But I just want to step back for a minute and focus for a minute about kind of what's actually going on in Ukraine right now. And just I don't know how to do this, but how to give you a good sense of, you know, there's a lot of punditry. There's a lot of people talking about it. There's a lot being written about it. But I don't know if you can or any of us can have a real sense of the sheer brutality and destruction that is going on. You know, civilians are dying in Ukraine in large numbers. It's now up to, I think, thousands. The Russians are being brutal. They are bombing civilian targets. You know, many of the people left in Ukraine are the elderly. A lot of children are died so far in Ukraine. This is just a brutal and devastating war. Cities are being flattened. And it truly is horrific and truly is sad. And if you think about it, what has Ukraine done to deserve it? What has Ukraine done to deserve? What have Ukrainians done to deserve the death and destruction of their cities? What have they done to deserve thousands and thousands of civilian casualties? What have they done to deserve the devastation? And it's only going to get worse. We're only seeing the beginning of what is going to happen as Russia flounders, or if it doesn't flounder, at least as Russia only advances slowly. What we're going to get is more and more of a nutrition war, nutrition war for which civilians will be tried to be starved. Supplies will dwindle. And brutality will increase in order to speed up progress. You've really seen that with the Russians. And neither party, neither the Ukrainians nor the Russians will be in a position to win. They'll just be in a position to brutally kill one another and devastate and destroy each other. For what? I mean, nobody really asked this question. But for what? What is this war about? Now, those who defend Russia say it's about Russia preventing, you know, I don't know, NATO expansion, which was never on the table in Ukraine was not necessarily supportive of NATO expansion. But even if it was, how many people are you willing to kill so that NATO doesn't expand? How much death and destruction are you willing to inflict on civilian casualties so that NATO doesn't expand? What is the price you're willing to pay for a Russian Empire for Ukraine that is a satellite of Russia? I mean, is anybody asking Putin, these kind of questions? Those who support Putin? Let's say they're right. Let's say yes, NATO expanded too quickly. And yes, NATO poses, I don't know, not a not a threat because nobody can take really seriously, but a threat certainly to Russian dominance over parts of Eastern Europe. How many people deserve to die? How much devastation is legitimate? How many people? How many civilians? How many non combatants are supposed to be killed? Old people, young people, babies, children? So the Putin's dream of a greater Russia is fulfilled or Putin's dream of a NATO further removed is fulfilled? How many people are going to die? Tens of thousands of people are going to die. Of course, thousands of Russian soldiers are going to die. But you know, my sympathy for such a soldier Russians is declining all the time as I look at latest polling data out of Poland and out of Russia and I'm not sure how much you can trust it, but you can trust as much as you can trust anything coming out of Russia. By Western polling company, not Russian polling companies, which shows that Putin's popularity was in decline, and that the wars actually increased as popular, that he is no more popular, that he is now dramatically more popular than he was a year or two ago. That indeed Russia support Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Remember, Putin here is the aggressor. There was no aggression. Putin is the one to put 190,000 troops on the border with Ukraine. Putin is the one that has threatened war. And Putin is the one who ordered his troops into Ukraine in an offensive battle against a country that was not his. There is no way anyone could view the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a defensive action, as an action to protect the lives and property of Russians. It was a political offensive expansionary rights violating initiation of force moved by the Russians against the Ukrainians. It is true insanity to see in the 21st century, a country mobilized to go to war, mobilized to go to war against the country that poses no threat to it. Ukraine, let's be very clear, was not a threat to Russia. Ukraine has no offensive weapons. Ukraine does not have an army that can launch an attack on Russia. There is nothing offensive about Russia. You might not like Ukraine. You might think their government is corrupt. You might think NATO is expanding too much. Okay. But to use that to justify a brutal war of slaughter, a brutal war in the world in your neighborhoods. And look, in a just war, in a war in which the good guys need to win and defeat the bad guys, yes, civilian casualties are price ones willing to pay. It's a necessary price to win. But here, the Russians are the bad guys. They are killing civilians not out of a desire to bring freedom and liberty from the perspective of self-defense. There is nothing about the Russian offensive that is self-defense. Russia is unequivocally the offender here, the evil party here. And let me just, let me, let me say a little bit about Candisone. I'll talk about Israel in a minute, but let's, let's talk about Candisone because it's relevant for this. I mean, I never liked Candisone. People always say, oh, she's the star of the conservative movement. She's so amazing. And yeah, being a black female and being willing to say some of the things she's been willing to say about racism in America and about the left, yeah, it was all refreshing. But they never creamed across as intelligent, well-founded, well-grounded. And now, I mean, she's just, she's just lost it. She's become a mouthpiece for Putin. Here's one of her tweets on March 17, two days ago. Yeah, two days ago. President Zelensky is a very bad character who is working with globalists against the interests of his own people. I will not move one inch away from that assessment ever, no matter how flowery the media depict, depictions of him are. She will never move away from this assessment, no matter what the evidence is. No matter what anybody says. How does, how does she know that Zelensky is a very bad character? No evidence is given, no evidence is suggested, no sources are cited. Working with globalists, I mean, I know there's nothing worse that you can say to somebody other than, more than he's a globalist, maybe that he's an artsy, but globalist is like the worst. And who are these globalists? And what is their agenda? What are they trying to achieve? And how does anything that he did justify a war of aggression by the Russians and the killing of thousands of people in their homes? Nothing, no. She's not suggesting anything. She's completely lost it. And this is not it. This is not ignorance. I think Candace Owen is ignorant. I think she's always been ignorant. It's the one thing that's always kind of beat at the back of my mind. She doesn't really know what she's talking about. She miles certain things, the talking points of the new right. Originally, I think she would basically the talking points of Charlie Koch, the head of Turning Point, and then I think she outgrew Charlie. She got bigger than Charlie. Now who knows who feeds her this stuff? But it's disgusting. Later that same day, she says war is a government, war is a government run money laundering operations from taxpayers. The job of the media is to make the taxpayer agree to war through aggressive emotional propaganda. People like me, Russell Brand and Tucker Carlson are enemies of the military industrial complex. Is that the Russian military industrial complex? Because as far as I know, the United States has not gone yet to war and probably will not go. But Russia has a war's government run money laundering operations from taxpayers. Is that true of Russia as well as it is of the United States? Or is that just true of people you don't like? Or is that just true of the American government? Now she's channeling Marie Rothbard and the anti-world libertarians who hate American wars. I don't think they object much to other people slaughtering each other, but American wars, America is always, always evil. Tucker and Candace are not anti-war. They're anti-America. They're anti-American wars. They have no problem in Russia invading Ukraine. Suddenly Candace doesn't. Yesterday, I think it was yesterday, she tweeted, Ukraine wasn't a thing until 1989. Now the ignorance here is on multiple levels. 1989 is the day that Berlin Wall fell, but really the Soviet Union wasn't dismantled until 1991, which I think is what she means. But that is a level of ignorance that is interesting. Ukraine indeed was independent. Pre-takeover by the Soviets, it was within the Soviet Union kind of a semi-autonomous zone. Why did Lenin and Stalin even allow for that if Ukraine wasn't a thing? Before the Russian Empire, Ukraine had an empire. It basically controlled most of Eastern Europe. There was a period thousand years ago. Ukraine's been a thing for a long time. Kiev indeed is a much more significant city than in, if you go back a thousand years, then Moscow. I mean, Ukraine wasn't a thing. Just look in Wikipedia, Candace. But again, she will do anything to undermine Ukraine and to elevate Putin. And that's what's interesting about this. Why? Why is she doing this? What is it about Putin that they love so much? Well, to some extent it's what people loved, many Germans loved about Hitler, even when they denied they love Hitler. But what they loved about Hitler is that he was anti-left. What they loved about Hitler is that he hated the communists. What they loved about Hitler was his nationalism and his so-called, quote, patriotism. What they loved about Hitler was his muscles, that he was willing to flex them. And now, Hitler was a little weakling, but he had muscle people around him. Putin, looks buff. But what they love is their adoration of force, their adoration of muscle, their willingness to use it. They deny that they support their positive agenda, in the case of Hitler. You all know their agenda, in the case of Putin, whether it's, you know, it's unclear what his agenda is, but primarily Russian nationalism. What they really love is this, and they say this, you know, Tucker Carlson has said, well, you know, Putin doesn't advocate for critical race theory. He doesn't advocate for, you know, he doesn't try to educate our kids. He would, if he took over the United States, not that I'm saying he will, but or that he wants to, but what they love is his anti-leftist strategy. What they love is his nationalism. What they love is, again, his muscle. And they loved invasion. Why did they love the invasion? Because he stuck it to the West. The West today, in the minds of the Candace Owens of the world, is a symbol of globalism, is the symbol of liberalism. It's the symbol of the left. And anything that attacks the West, anything that attacks the United States, particularly under Democrat administration, anything that attacks Western Europe, is good. I've been telling you this for a long time, that once you place the left as your only target, you will hand over power to evil men. You will end up supporting evil causes. We do not share an agenda with Candace Owen. I do not, and he may be some of you do. She is not my ally in any battle, in any fight. She will not lead us anywhere but to hell. She and the whole, you know, the Tucker Carlson's and ultimately the Donald Trump's of the world. Yes, they sound good when they attack the left, maybe. But their attacks are meaningless when they, their ultimate ideas are just as bad in a sense of what they will do to this country. They are not our allies. They are not our friends. We share nothing in common, nothing. We should stay away from those far as possible. Candace was also a big vaccine expert. She was anti-vax. She declared, if you remember, I mentioned this on one of my shows, that Big Pharma was the biggest evil in the world. I think now she thinks Ukraine is the biggest evil in the world. Or maybe Biden is the biggest evil in the world. I don't know. But it, it's certainly not. But she used to think it was Big Pharma. Big Pharma. Candace doesn't own the left. She doesn't own the right. She's just a pathetic, ignorant, evader. She evades reality. She ignores the facts and her arguments against the left a week because she has nothing positive to offer. Except the bromides, old bromides of nationalism and kind of xenophobia and the love of Putin. Putin, a thug. Nothing but a thug, a KGB thug. But that's what the right is about today. That's what the collectivist right is about. All right. So, you know, that's my little spiel. And she's just horrible. I mean, really is horrible. And, and, and this is the queen of, the queen of of the right. Leon Miller says Candace Owen interview with Alex Epstein was good. It seems without an objective space and even the best on the right can't stay rational for long. She was never the best on the right. The fact that she did a good interview of of Alex Epstein is needs to be viewed as an accident. The fact that she's anti-global warming has nothing to do with science, has nothing to do with her love of humanity. There's nothing to do with her love of energy or understanding of economics. It's an accident because the right tends to be anti-global warming. So she'll ask Alex good questions. Alex is good. Cook says Candace Owen said leftism and atheism are a package deal, package deal. They're the same. They're together. They can't be separated. That's the quality of you get. That's why she belongs with Dennis Prager. They share that. I wonder what Dennis thinks of of her views of Russia and Ukraine. Andrew says Candace Owen like Trump says America does bad things too. Do you think an underlying pacifism or what do you think causes that moral equivalency? No, it's not a it's not a pacifism at all because Trump said that about America. You know, I can't you know this is the point I think this was the point in 2016 where I knew that Donald Trump was a villain. It was an interview before the election. I can't remember when it was but it's on YouTube. You can find the interview. It was an interview that he did and when he talked about Putin and he said some very positive things about Putin. And the interviewer said something like yeah but you know Putin kills journalists. He kills his own people. He kills journalists within his own country. And Donald Trump said yeah you know kind of we kill people too. We're the same thing. So it's not a pacifism. And it's not even a moral equivalency. I mean Donald Trump admires Putin. Candace Owen admires Putin. They admire his willingness to kill journalists. And they use the moral equivalency in a sense to hide the fact that they really want us to be like authoritarian Russia. They really want us to behave like that. They admire strong men. I mean Donald Trump's president he repeated this over and over and over again. He expressed many times his admiration for Xi and the respect that Xi gets in China. He wished people would respect him in America like Xi is respected in China. He had great admiration and gave great leeway to Erdogan in Turkey. And clearly he showed immense respect and admiration for Putin on a number of occasions including that famous press conference they gave where he took Putin's word over American intelligence agencies. In public. One thing to have doubts in private but in public. Trump in that sense you know hates the United States. He wants he hates the United States as a as the founders imagined it as the founders created it. He hates the United States of freedom and individualism separation of powers and a weak executive. Trump despises this country if it's a country of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams and in Hamilton he is the opposite of the founders. So these people admire Putin they admire authoritarians and they want America to be like them. I mean how much would Trump give to be able to bump off Bezos because of what the Washington Post wrote about him or shut down the Washington Post. He would have loved it. He has no respect or admiration for the idea of free speech. No respect or admiration for any aspect of the Constitution. And this is true of Candace. They don't understand the Constitution. They don't care about the Constitution. Indeed they want to overturn the Constitution. I mean it's clear in his fantasy about the election that he doesn't care who won the election. He doesn't care about an electoral process. He doesn't care about the rule of law. He cares about winning. Nothing else matters. And winning nothing else matters is Putin. So I think what underlies them all equivalency is a disgust with American freedom. A disgust with a lack of a strong centralized presidency. A disgust with an America that is weak which it is. It's not that he's disgusted with war. I mean Trump would not hesitate to go to war if he thought he could win it. If it was his war if he decided to go to one. I mean again this is why Candace alone supports the Russians right. She's not against war. They're not pacifists at all. So no there's no pacifism there. All right let's see. Whoops. Yes I wanted to talk about Israel. So I am in Israel. It's always interesting to be here. It's always stunning for me particularly in the last few years to drive from the airport into Tel Aviv. You drive through this corridor that passes through what now is kind of this canyon of skyscrapers on both sides of the highway. None of which existed when I you know 30 years ago when I was here in Israel. It's an area right by the military base that I was stationed at. None of that exists anymore. Again it's replaced by skyscrapers. The lights the colors I mean Tel Aviv is a vibrant alive city. It's interesting that in a recent and I can't remember what newspaper published this but they found Tel Aviv to be the most expensive city in the world in terms of the cost of living. It was more expensive to live in Tel Aviv than in Tokyo or Singapore or Paris or London or New York City. Super expensive partially because of demand, demand by wealthy Russians, wealthy Ukrainians, wealthy French, wealthy American Jews all who've got apartments, condos in Tel Aviv, wealthy Israelis. The success of the tech industry has created a lot of Israeli. So it's always it's always fun to drive through Israel to see how much it's changed since I lived here. Even Haifa which is a relatively sleepy city has whole areas that are new and thriving and bustling and it's just it really is it is fun to see. You know I don't have a really good sense of of how Israel doing it depends on who you talk to. You know COVID was dealt here with a strict iron hand, real lockdowns and and I think that have made it very hard for small businesses. On the other hand money was was printed but I don't have a good sense of the Israeli economy how it's doing relative let's say to the United States and other place around the world. It has incredibly productive people. It has a vibrant tech sector that is not was not like Silicon Valley that affected by the lockdowns. If anything it might have increased productivity. People working at home maybe worked better hard to tell. Unemployment is almost non-existent in Israel. There are plenty of jobs. It is it is a country though that is split and and internally and is constantly fighting. Violence is up in Israel both crime is up. Violence within the Arab sector is dramatically up. Arab on Arab violence if you will among Israeli Arabs not Palestinians is up. There's immense frustration within the Arab community. It's become more religious over the last 30 years and become much more anti-Israeli over the last 30 years. It is you know there's a lot of tension between secular Jews and religious Jews. Tomorrow one of the big time rabbis in the ultra-orthodox community is having a few is being buried. He died and he's having there's a funeral. They expect a million people a million people to show up for this funeral. I mean that is just in in in so many ways barbaric primitive backwards in one of the most advanced civilized progressive countries in the world. And there is that immense tension in Israel between the ultra-orthodox the extremely religious and a mostly secular society that values tradition values its Jewishness if you will but it's nowhere near but it's not fanatically religious versus a million people fanatics going to a funeral of a great religious leader great and great in quotes. It's a very troubled country in that sense split and divided in so many ways. There's Ashkenazi Sfadi which manifests itself in politics. There is the elites versus the common people. There is left versus right although the left in Israel is Fatima in almost every respect than the left in the United States or the left in Europe and religious secular Arab Jew truly a country of tension stress challenges conflict and that we haven't even mentioned its external enemies who are you know significant non-trivial. You know Israel signed a peace agreement with United Arab Emirates not that long ago well just yesterday I heard that Assad the brutal horrific dictator of Syria just visited the UAE and has established a friendly relationship with them. This is a real enemy of Israel an ally of Iran an ally of the Hezbollah establishing re-establishing relations after 10 years because during the civil war in Syria the the United Arab Emirates supported his enemies so re-establishing relationship with Assad. What does that mean in terms of the relationship with Israel when they establish relations with one of the Israel's biggest enemies? Israel is you know I sit here in Haifa I can see Lebanon certainly during a clear day I can see Lebanon in other words I can see where the Hezbollah will be shooting rockets at this like you know it exactly my location this is a perfect target for them it's up on a hill and they have thousands of rockets and far more sophisticated rockets than they had in the past because they've got them from the Iranians in the south of course you've got to go as a strip with Hamas. So Israel has a precarious situation from all fronts and that brings me to Ukraine and Russia you know Israel has a law Israel has a law that says that any Jew who wants can come to Israel and become a citizen it's interesting that the law written after World War II defines a Jew in the same way the Nazis did in a sense it adopted the Nazi definition because it's a law that is trying to protect against the Nazis and that law says that if you're a quarter Jewish if you have one grandparent that's Jewish you can come and get citizenship in Israel but as part of the conflict between secular and religious the religious Jews are offended by this no they say a Jew is only a Jew if they were born by a Jewish mother and their Jewish mother is only a Jewish mother if her mother was Jewish going back all the way to I guess the beginning of time so they are people who define themselves as Jewish all over the world in particular there is a large community of Jews in Ethiopia that is being persecuted and is in the middle of a civil war in Ethiopia that wants to come to Israel now many Ethiopian Jews made it to Israel but the rabbis define many of them you know try to fight their idea that they were even Jewish well these Ethiopian Jews are blocked from coming in to Israel in Ukraine today there are many Jews escaping Ukraine mostly older the young have already left they are being welcomed into Israel and they are there's an outcry of racism here why are they accepting white Ukrainian Jews without too much proof that they're Jewish I mean just think of kind of their mental gymnastics one has to go through here and they're not accepting Jews from Ethiopia because what the color skin is different or because the rabbis can't make up their mind about who's Jewish and who's not but there's definitely a color skin issue going on here there's a cultural issue going on here again another area in which Israel is torn the story is right now in Israel that so many Russian Jews have left Russia not Ukraine Russia because they it's not comfortable they can't tweet they can't go on Facebook they can't get McDonald's they can't go to Starbucks they don't want to be in Russia during these times of sanctions and stuff that every apartment available for rent in Israel is taken up by Russian Jews that are spending time in Israel while things cool down or maybe will cool down one day in Russia so again a country torn what do they do with these people well I mean there's nothing to do with them it's it's fine that they hear but but Israeli is upset because this is raising rents and taking away apartments from other people and then Ukrainian Jews who they're trying to get to immigrate to Israel as they leave Ukraine so you know Israel's supposed to be supplying resources at the borders to try to get them here well it's under resourced many of the Jews are getting to the point where they they've decided that it's just not worth it and they are going other places the ineffectiveness of the Israeli bureaucracy is just unbelievable to help people they claim they want to help to bring people to Israel they claim to want to bring people to they want to bring to Israel it's just pathetic and unique there are a lot of Russian Jews a lot of Ukrainian Jews who live in Israel who live today in Israel they are now torn so you know Israel's a mess always has been a mess in many respects always will be a mess Israel is a land of contradictions it is based on basically an unhealthy premise as a Jewish state as an ethnocentric state unhealthy maybe necessary in terms of the survival of of Jews given the anti-Semitism that's prevalent around the world by the way what one of the challenges Israel has in terms of its support for Ukraine Russia is Ukrainians in their history have been unbelievably anti-Semitic Russia of course is in Syria I can see Syria from here and Israel has a deal with Russia that it can use this we can basically do what it wants in the airspace of Syria without getting into conflict with the Russians so it has a certain reason to support Russia in this conflict not because of the conflict but because it's got a deal with Russia and it doesn't want to spoil its chances there it also doesn't particularly like has issues with the Ukrainians on the other hand Israeli is also completely recognized have no doubt that Russia is the aggressor and the Ukrainians are in the just party here but Israeli politicians are having a hard time navigating the whole situation I think they're becoming they've become in the last few days a stronger significantly stronger in their condemnation of Russia than they were at the beginning of the conflict I think the the sheer brutality of the Russian army is forcing them to take a moral stand as indeed they should so yeah so Israel is founded on a in a sense an immoral premise that is in some ways because of the immoral nature of the world around us and the craziness of the world around us necessary for them Jewish nationalism it's there it's the only way Jews can survive in the world at least they think they can survive in the world and Israel was founded on the basis of Kantian intellectuals it was founded in great intellectual sin in great intellectual with great intellectual problems and there are consequences to this and and and you're seeing the consequences you see the consequence within Israeli society and the conflicts that arise within it and you see it in in the position it has in the world and and also in its lack of self-esteem and self-assertiveness so it's a it's a challenging place and it's it's challenged this crisis in Ukraine has really caused it a challenge those of you who think of Israel as somehow white or somehow I don't even ethnocentric Israel is not really ethno-nationalist because Judaism is not an ethnicity I don't know what Judaism is exactly it's some aspirations of shared religion but it's not an ethnicity I mean there's very little genetic similarities between me and my wife or me and and and Jews from Yemen who are very very dark skin clearly Jews or Jews from Ethiopia very little genetic similarities between us and yet they're all here in Israel you've got over 50 percent of Israelis are sphatic Jews who are darker skinned at different features than you know northern European Jews the idea of Israel is some kind of white nation is bizarre and and insane and it shows complete ignorance of the place they are black Jews again Ethiopia Yemen and other places other places in Africa they're Indian Jews Jews who come from India they are Chinese Jews so Israel is a complicated complex bizarre place it's a troubled place it's a troubled place and it always will be troubled because nationalism is not a good thing Jews are not a race Jews are not an ethnicity yeah it's over 50 percent sphatic Jews they're more than 50 percent Jews Judaism is a religion but I don't know a significant number of Israeli Jews atheists so what does it mean that it's a religion if so many Jews are atheists it's a very amorphous undefined term it basically is if your mother was Jewish if your mother declared herself Jewish if her mother was Jewish and her mother was Jewish you're a Jew and that could go back a long time and if your origins are somewhere 3 000 years ago in this part of the world right here are you probably a Jew or not who knows so no nationalism which is the which is the placement of the nation above the individual is evil through and through and to the extent that Israel is collectivist and nationalist it's evil it's bad luckily Israeli society has strong influences of individualism it's basically a free society it's it's it's a relatively prospering and innovative it's a very innovative society which couldn't exist under extreme collectivism and you've got elements of individualism here but at the core at the essence of all nationalism is an evil which is collectivism and Israel because it has these strong collectivistic elements and also individualism has this constant clash a clash that the rest of the world the rest of the western world is now experiencing like in america we're seeing this clash and this clash is a consequence of the rising collectivism in a fundamentally individualist country that generates conflict and struggle and clashes tribalism tribalism is the manifestation of collectivism but nationalism is never right tribalism is never right collectivism is never right nationalism again is placing the collective the nation is above the individual is never right even when it's chosen voluntarily not all you know murderers choose to murder the fact that you do something voluntarily doesn't make it right doesn't make it right even if everybody consented to make a murder okay it wouldn't make murder okay just because everybody consents to nationalism doesn't make nationalism right it makes it evil and the consequences are the consequences are decay and decline again israel thrives because important parts of it important important parts of the fabric of israel is anti-collectivist it's fundamentally individualism nationalism does not equal patriotism patriotism is the love of the nation when the nation deserves it it's a love of a good country you know patriotism can also be evil you can be patriotic to nazi germany or you can but it's not a good thing of course you could have countries the the funny fathers were non-nationalists they created a country of non-nationalist of anti-nationalist nationalism is not okay it is again it is evil in the sense of placing the individual but placing the individual at the service of the state making the state the focal of your attention that is wrong and evil all right nations can exist without nationalism america existed without nationalism for a long time let's see all right as you all know um super chat is available we have goals for the super chat we don't have catherine today last time she was here super chat 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of the women's league it's the story of of one of the teams i mean in particular it's a story of two sisters who who join who join the team west thank you really appreciate it supporting the travel logs thank you west it's a story of two sisters who join the team one is a pitcher and one is the batter and the one who's a pitcher is clearly more talented so there's an element of the conflict between them both of them i think a flawed the very talented sister the the one who is particularly talented she loves the game but she refuses in a sense she refuses to acknowledge her love of the game she refuses to embrace it she doesn't take it as seriously as you think she should given how much she loves it it's clearly part of her life in the end she gives it up and she and this is again based on a true story she gets married and she gives gives baseball up even though she's you know it's her passion she comes back for the final game of the finals of the equivalent of the world series um so it's it's it's it's got kind of the personal drama that's involved in it it's got kind of the political drama of you know it's not really politics but it's kind of political in its in its feel in the sense that there's a lot of resistance to a woman's league there's a lot of skepticism to women's league but then when they start playing and they're pretty good and it's exciting and they're giving they're all to the game it really catches on and people embrace it and people like it and then as soon as the men come back they want to shut it down i don't have any problem with that in the sense that baseball is a business and it has to make money um ultimately i think the league uh did go on after world war two for a while for a few years uh and and and did okay but it can't compete with a major league baseball i mean women and men are different i know i know it's a shock to all of you but men's baseball is more fun and there's more talent and and uh than in women's baseball and you can see that in in what people watch that's generally true of men's sports are the men are just better than women uh so uh yeah as i said uh the two i was talking about the two sisters before right so so the issue with the two sisters the one who's talented doesn't take it seriously the one who takes it seriously she views it as a way to escape the country life so she's she both from the country i can't remember what state and and the older one the better one is also she just wants a country life now in the end of the movie you see her years later as an old woman you know as a country life good for her um it's unclear it's it doesn't she doesn't look particularly happy which is interesting in the movie the younger one wants to get out she wants to live life and it looks by the end of the movie that she's really lived a life she's she's she's the more flamboyant one the more excited one particularly when she's older so you get a sense at least um gives you a sense and and of um of kind of the the quality she had but not but on that hand she's also envious or jealous uh sometimes it's envy of the fact that her sister's better than her but i think part of what makes her mad is that her sister's better within her but doesn't appreciate it doesn't live it doesn't take it seriously doesn't use it as a as a reason to escape the dull boring life on the farm and embrace the exciting life that baseball makes possible for them i think one of the exciting things about the movie is it shows these women using baseball as let as a as a as a platform from which they can live better lives they can escape the drudgery and and you know i think world war two was a turning point um because world war two for women was a time when they went out and worked they went out and replaced the men they worked in heavy industry they worked in a variety of different jobs because all the men were out fighting and when they came back and i think this explains a lot of what happened in the 60s when they came back they were shoveled back to the home so when they came back they were expected to go back to cooking and taking care of the kids and didn't take you care of the house and and all of that and um in this by the 60s they rebelled against that and and they had seen what it was like for a woman to work and they had seen that they could do it you know they they achieved amazing things during the um during world war two so sociologically it seems clear to me that there was this evolution of the woman's role from you know again from kitchen and home to in time of emergency we need them to do the work they can do the work but then they're shoveled back into the kitchen at home and then i think oh into the baseball field and then when the men come by the time the 50s come around and they're portrayed in television as these nice housewives they rebel against they reject and and and they embrace and i think that's where the women's lib really you know really comes from and and and it motivates the women and uh you know it's why women have advanced so much i mean i think it's for the mostly for the good not all of it mostly for the good because women are in a much better situation today than they were 50 years ago then they were in the 50s right 50s that everybody longs for both left and right the left because of unions and the right because of family and i think this is where they're left and the right at the same right they both want this ideally almost socialist kind of everybody in their place world what they don't want is change what they don't want is entrepreneurs what they don't want is is change change i think captures it so what else can i say about illegal doing look it's funny it's entertaining um Madonna is in it she's pretty good oska says oska six seven nine three says it's probably a best movie i don't know enough about bandana's movies but yeah i thought she was pretty good but um yeah i mean i thought i thought it was it was fun so i definitely recommend the movie it is a fun entertaining fun characters motivated they want to win you know it's it's just like any sports movie i love sports movies because they in a sense they play good guys and bad guys but it's it's more it's not so much about the bad guys sports movies are all about the good guys and what it takes to win and what it takes to be successful and this movie is no exception it it's it's what does it take this group of women coming from all these different backgrounds to gel into a team to be motivated as a team to go out and win and and uh yeah like any sports movie it's inspiring in that sense sparse that says that was more than fifty dollars worth here is some more i wanted to ask you while the memory was still fresh in your mind thank you yes and i i know i still owe you a movie review i'm i'm struggling a little bit to find a platform that has the movie i thought hbo uh had it but i i can't seem to play it when it gets up on hbo and i press play it says this movie cannot play so um and i owe star trek and i owe dave goodman a movie and i'll get to all of those uh soon i hope uh no says your objective evaluation of israel your country of both makes you a hero hero and a true objectivist to me thank you uh no but yes i mean i've always well not always but certainly since i've become an objectivist over the years i've become one more tuned uh to um israel both strengths and weaknesses um and look i left israel i left israel clear very clear i knowing why i was leaving i left because of the collectivism um and and going to america which i thought was the one place of great opportunity which it turned out to be i'm not wrong but it did disappoint gravely in terms of its direction so one of the saddest things in the world right now is to see my chosen home america become more like my birth home israel rather than and so israel has become more like america and america has become more like israel and a kind of meeting in the middle i would have liked america to become more like america become more american if you understand what american means all right we were at two hundred ninety dollars to a large extent thanks to shahzab who's given a third of that over a third of that i'm sure there's some others who can help us get to the six hundred dollar mark uh that would be great i'm gonna get to everybody's questions i'm gonna start with twenty dollar questions and i'm gonna go through them so i will get to everybody's let's go to the top of the list let's see if there's a twenty dollars yes um but where is dank's let me see if dank's yes i see your question twenty five wrong i'll get to it i promise oh okay let me answer this question just because it pisses me off and because it's on kind of on topic how can you say maya shahime is wrong on ukraine when he predicted six years ago that the west is sending ukraine on a path of destruction he was spot on no the west did not send ukraine on a path of destruction russia is destroying ukraine not the west so his whole framework is to blame the west and that's bs when the framework should be i mean if he said something like look russia is irrational russia putin is nuts he's a thug and he wants to reestablish the russian empire and the really the west has two alternatives except ukraine interneato today or russia will invade because the russians are thugs then i would have said yeah he's he's right he's right so he understood in some sense the collectivism the nationalism the rationality the the the the the thuggery of the russians may be better than anybody else fine but he doesn't put moral blame on that he puts moral blame on the west i mean the answer if the west cared about ukraine six years ago was to make them a member of nato immediately and that would prevent Russian invasion of it it's the west dithering about adding ukraine to nato which has resulted in this but this all the blame for this is on russia all the blame for this is on the nationalist philosophy of putin and dugun and and all the reactionary russian philosophers and thinkers and intellectuals and to blame anybody else is just morally offensive there is no moral blame on the west there is no issue on the west ukraine has every right as a sovereign nation to decide who to align itself with a line with nato is not a threat to russia not an objective threat to russia i don't care how putin sees it putin is irrational you don't take the side of the irrational you don't say oh everybody's to blame no putin is to blame unequivocally if putin was objective not an objectivist just objective he would know that nato is not a threat to russia and why would he care if ukraine becomes part of nato he cares because he said why he cares i mean you you guys need to read his speech before he went to war he made it very clear that ukraine is part of a greater russia it's part of the soul of mother russia his explanations were a hundred percent nationalism mysticism irrationalism the west has no blame the blame lies squarely and completely on the side of russia here this is not you know there's no either your sovereign nation or not and if ukraine's a sovereign nation they get to decide who to treaty with if russia doesn't like it tough that doesn't give them one iota of a fraction of a right to invade a country and kill thousands of its women and children not one right i mean the idea of morally justifying putin is disgusting why because ukraine wanted to be under the nato umbrella it turns out ukraine was right you russia nato has never made a claim for any russian soil nato has never suggested attacking russia nato would never attack russia nato is a purely purely defensive alliance anyway it's it's um it's sickening to me personally and as an intellectual the moral equivalence that is going on here the giving putin any kind of justification the fact that us controls nato is irrelevant us is not an aggressor nation on russia it's not russia's enemy russia's us's enemy but us is not russia's enemy not russia maybe putin's enemy but not russia's enemy us has no territorial claim on russia us has never invaded russia there's no interest in invading russia and the only reason putin cares about the us is he knows they won't invade that's why he's willing to invade ukraine and not worry about the us he knows we won't get involved we do muslims because they attack us god now you're gonna make america the the the guilty party on i mean you you're buying into ron paul's line completely so it's 911 was america's fault we do muslims how quickly people forget how quickly people negate reality it's truly unbelievable yeah i'm funded by sores sores and the open society foundation gives me millions of dollars of year that's why i hate putin because the only reason to hate putin is if sores is funding you the fact that he stands philosophically for everything i hate i oppose has nothing to do with it it's all economics and you know sores and i were both jewish and were both hedge fund managers he's he's a bit bigger and richer than me um so therefore it must be that sores is funding me carb you're quite an idiot uh dongs dongs nato bomb belgrade for 80 days uh defensive yeah but it didn't take um notice that nato didn't take over belgrade it didn't take over syria it didn't insist that the the serbs replaced their president uh you know they they prevented or they at least the claim and by the way i was against nato bombing belgrade but they were doing that because uh in order to prevent the um serbians were slaughtering women and children in kosovo so it wasn't an expansionary move in an attempt to expand and that's so be a still not part of nato and not part of uh the e you and was never occupied by the ukossovo it was a civil war nato took sides but i don't think it should have i'm not wasn't for that war but it wasn't because it was somehow trying to expand into it and russia has nuclear weapons what exactly what exactly is nato going to do to russia nato bomb yeah they did you know one way to prevent nato from bombing you is not to massacre people um let's see my class is one of the reasons we haven't collapsed because intellectuals over decades have become marginally more sympathetic to markets a great understanding that a degree of economic freedom must be preserved yeah i mean i mean there is a certain commitment to a mixed economy the our intellectual class is not committed to marxism is not committed to to out and out socialism at least not the ones who actually count um even somebody like paul krugman claims to be uh you know committed to markets even what's her name elizabeth wahn claims a commitment to markets there's a certain uh shallow primitive understanding that some markets are better than none um but i think the reason we haven't collapsed is because the enlightenment has deep roots in the american people not so much in the it's intellectuals but in the people and in the people of western europe that is it is because of the enlightenment has made so much progress among the people that the politicians and some intellectuals have to um appease the people to some extent by claiming to be pro markets right so it it really is a testament to the amazing reach and amazing impact that the the enlightenment had on the way we think about the world in in almost every aspect and and now while the intellectuals have ejected the enlightenment the common people have not they don't know anything about the enlightenment but they've not rejected the fundamental values of the enlightenment uh a certain respect for reason and a certain respect for individuals they still want to live lives free of meddling at least for the most part sadly they're willing to give up more and more and more of their freedoms but they generally want to be free and every time there's a move towards authoritarianism in the west it is quashed by a shift in the opposite direction because people don't really want it nato did let me just to clarify a few things about nato and iraq nato did not invade iraq the united states did with a few allies uh the invasion of iraq was not well what did he say was not wrong you know wrong from the perspective of iraq iraq had no sovereignty it was ruled by brutal dictator it had threatened the united states in a variety of different ways it was a wrong war from the united states perspective it was not in the self-interest of the united states but the iraqi should have celebrated the war it was a it was a war that ultimately liberated them for one of the most brutal dictators of the latter 20th century so the whole view of the iraq where i've talked about this is completely absurd right yes it's an it's a wrong war it's an immoral war but not because it hurt the iraqis the iraqis deserved everything they got it was wrong from the perspective of the americans who had to fight it the americans who had to fund it the americans who had to die for it they're the ones who were wronged the injustice is not towards iraq the injustice is towards america and towards the west so the governments of america and the governments of the west engage in war in iraq not which was not a NATO war they were wronged those government wronged their own people not the people of iraq again the people of iraq deserved they tolerated a horrific brutal dictator who initiated force and other countries and who threatened free countries left and right funded terrorism now again i don't think it justifies a war from the american perspective but getting rid of saddam hussein cool absolutely moral and good it's it's amazing that the blame america crowd i'm not really trying to convince them but i know that for every one of the people in the blame america crowd that's saying what they're saying they're people on the fence and i'm trying to get to the people on the fence um let me see what was i uh yes i was going to say that and i was going to say one other thing about it um yeah anyway we'll leave it dan b $100 thank you he says have you heard peacock's lecture on madness and modernism discuss the similarities of modern art and schizophrenia there was a murder at moma by a crazy person it is unreasonable to relate the story to some of the points in his talk even if just anecdotal i'd know i i don't think it's unreasonable i i don't i have to admit i remember he's talking schizophrenia but i don't i remember listening to it i think i was there live but i don't remember the details but there's no question that modernism schizophrenia are related there's no question that modern art is a reflection of of a crazy society and that by elevating modern art only by the intellectual that the intellectuals elevating modern art um causes brain damage because innocent people who don't have the intellectual framework to understand the con that is being perpetrated on them which modern art is one big con game it creates massive confusion deep confusion not not just simplistic confusion art is is very fundamental and essential to the human soul and and and and by elevating modern arts you know when i did my talk on modern art i put up a picture of just a bunch of circles but i could have put something much uglier next to michael angelo is david and and ask the question what is it do these belong in the same category are these the same concept and the answer is of course not and the fact is that by putting them in the to the same concept into the same fire folder you do real cognitive damage it's not neutral it truly is destructive to your own cognition so yes and now i don't know about the murder i don't know exactly what happened i don't know the details but there's no question that modern art is destructive of the human soul and it's therefore destructive and because it's destructive to the human mind and that equating it with great art equating with with art at all makes us poorer spiritual a lot poorer spiritual all right let's see ryan says hi you're on my family and i are cruising the caribbean first week of april despite covid where do you recommend we dine we want the san juan experience and need your culinary advice well i mean the best place to dine if you can get in and you have to book now if you're going to do it in april or book soon is an old town it's um it's called marmalade and it's it's a phenomenal restaurant it's it's uh you know i don't know what a san juan experience is but you'll get world-class cuisine in a wonderful um wonderful dining setting and um incredibly friendly staff it's a great service and um and in old town so so while you're walking around and enjoying kind of the the the vibe of the spanish architecture and uh and the old streets and everything you in one of those buildings is is is a really truly a world-class restaurant a restaurant that i think would get a michelin star if if michelin ever came to porto rico uh so that's where i would i would definitely have dinner there if you're going to be there for several days drop me an email and i can i can i can give you other recommendations but my guess is you're only there for one night if you're on a cruise uh let's see can you introduce me to some marriage minded sphatic israeli women late 20s to early 30s range thanks um i would love to and uh i i i think you would enjoy the match um it's worked for me i don't know i sorry i i'm just you know 2030 is the ages of my kids not the generation they're very familiar with particularly not in israeli haven't lived here in a long time but yes i would say come over to israel and search for yourself look for yourself get in touch with boas ask him he probably knows some uh let's see he asked that alex do you hold any philosophical questions that objectivism doesn't answer you know i know there are quite a few i think i don't know any of the big ones but i'm sure the small ones and particularly if you if objectivism is what ian ran wrote and you know kind of what lend a peek of wrote in opa i'm sure there are a lot of questions out there i can't think of anything right now but but yeah i mean the objectivism is objectivism does not answer every question in philosophy it doesn't it answers the big ones and i think it gives you guidance on where to look and how to approach most importantly how to approach answering more questions but i sorry i i just can't think of a question that it doesn't uh off the cuff regi asks why don't we destroy kremlin and put in with the aim of removing all nukes from russia because you'd you'd be engaged in a in a uh in a nuclear war um i mean for the the fact is that russia is not a threat to the united states why would you risk nuclear war with russia it has what four to six thousand nuclear warheads i mean why would you risk the lives of americans for or something that's not a threat put in it's not a threat for the us you know ideally uh there would be regime change in uh in russia by itself i i wouldn't oppose supporting the opposition given that it's become so authoritarian but you do not want to go to war with russia and i don't think there's any reason to go i mean ian ran objected to war with the soviet union which was much worse than russia because she didn't think the soviet union was a real threat to the united states and she thought the soviet union would collapse upon itself i think in bar going russia i think uh isolating russia and putin which we've gone a little bit towards and are fully uh would cause russia to collapse of its own it would cause it to be too poor to to be an effective enemy of anybody uh and ultimately i think would would necessarily lead to regime change at least i hope so and if it doesn't then it doesn't who cares but it would definitely weaken russia to an extent that it's not a threat to anybody russia right now is only a threat because it has uh you know uh it has it has managed uh to thrive with trade with the west once trade with the west is ended is stopped then russia will struggle will struggle dramatically to be able to survive economically uh and to be able to spend money on the military i mean the military is pathetic even with all the spending and it'll only become more pathetic over time as it becomes poorer so there's no reason to and and it would be a sacrifice it would be a sacrifice of potentially sacrifice of american lives and certainly a uh a sacrifice of america treasure all right quickly we've got five last questions all right um michael talzfani says we need 10 000 intellectuals uh to change the culture 50 years from now will we have 10 000 objectivist intellectuals trained in radio rule so i disagree with tal i think we only need a thousand um a thousand good ones a thousand uh active ones a thousand vocal ones uh a thousand that are willing to go out there and and engage with the culture will we have a thousand in 50 years i think so we have a we have about a hundred now maybe not a hundred like i would like them maybe they're on 10 to 20 like i like them but we have a hundred maybe we'd have 10 000 generally but a thousand of the kind of intellectuals i'm talking about i think there's a chance certainly not a certainty partially depends on you guys whether you support the institute whether you support its efforts whether those of you inclined towards intellectual activities engage in them and don't chicken out and go into something else uh but you're not going to get 10 000 activist intellectuals in 50 years but but a thousand you might and i think a thousand is enough uh why did einrann distrust the stock market something she distrusted it she didn't she wasn't uh uh uh uh i think the main issue with the stock market is the uncertainty uh she just didn't like the the risk stock market is risky it goes up and down and she didn't want the the the hard-earned money she'd made to go up and down uh she wanted to put it in some way safe that guaranteed her a certain level of income and and that was good enough for her indeed if she'd invested that money in uh you know she got a lot of money in the 50s and 60s she would have done quite well in stock market particularly if it had gone into uh you know the stock market bottomed in 1982 so indeed in her lifetime um stock market did well in the 60s didn't do great in the 70s did okay but it didn't do great in the 80s early 80s when she was alive it did horribly um it wasn't a terrible decision and from the 80s on from the 80s till today the stock market has done phenomenally well from 82 till today as interest rates have plummeted and the bond markets have done terribly um in terms of her yield uh stock market has done very well but what she didn't like is the is the volatility done certainly um hopper uh i'm pretty sure Putin will eventually go nuclear as he gets more and more paranoid and anxious about the world turning on him i don't think he's suicidal i just don't think he's suicidal and i don't think the people around him are suicidal so i i i don't think that's going to happen uh william uh thank you my skin crawls when i see how liberty has turned into liberal flesh frenzy under the so called democracy we prefer strong police harder jail terms safer streets stronger schools and health um then he's i'm not sure there's a question there thank you i believe it's political western democracy dictates that a majority has a right higher and unequal to a minority like me why why should i support that i mean you shouldn't but it's the it's it's a better alternative than any other alternative that exists in the world right now western democracy is a better political system than the authoritarians in russia that don't respect any any rights that you have as an individual or authoritarian china or any kind of authoritarianism so while western democracy is horrible it's far better far better than any other system that exists in the world today now we strive for a better system so we fight western democracy we argue against western democracy we try to change western democracy from within to try to bring about a true freedom a true liberty um i don't know if this is in the context but that does you're not going to achieve that by supporting putin you're not going to achieve that by supporting trump you're not going to achieve that by supporting orban who don't give one iota about your liberty as an individual all right what does this talk about successes who's succeeding who okay who who's the successor that's supposed to be grooming i don't know what what are you guys who are you guys talking about all right um thank you everybody uh it was uh happy to do a show hopefully i'll have another one tomorrow not to exactly what time um i'll be visiting with my my parents most of the day tomorrow uh and uh so at some point tomorrow we'll do that uh all right sorry i'm i'm distracted here by the chat uh have a great night everybody thank you for the superchatters i think we made it to not quite a 600 but we made it a 400 which is quite respectable for these kind of unplanned shows it would be nice to get to 600 in each one of these shows and and not make much a significant deficit month but um but it's not bad uh we will uh we'll keep doing these i'll do the next one probably tomorrow i've got an event on um Monday night and on Wednesday night and then i'll be in Portugal on Thursday i'll be meeting some of you guys in Portugal i'm excited about that and uh in Lisbon and then i've got a conference over the weekend and then i might do shows from there um depending on again on the internet connection i'm glad the internet connection here is decent and we can do this and then i'll be in London and i'll definitely do shows from there although god i'm not sure exactly when because i've got an event every night until very late at night um but i'll certainly on some on maybe some nights or during the day or maybe i'll sleep in and do the shows at late at night uh to fill you in on how things are going in the UK and i hope to see some of you i hope to see some of you at the Einrand Institute a conference uh in uh if you're in Europe hop over to London it's it's cheap the hotel is cheap um you know uh if you're in the US and you haven't been to London in a long time and if you want to kind of stick it to the whole COVID thing uh London's a great place to do it uh you can fly over there uh it's yeah come to London it's going to be a blast it's going to be a fantastic weekend so i'm looking forward to it i'm looking for the meeting some of you there particularly the Europeans all right everybody have a great weekend uh i will see you tomorrow some point during the day and thank you for the superchatters and of course if you want to support the show if you want to become a monthly supporter uh you can do it at your on book show dot com slash support patreon or subscribe star just put in your on book show and uh of course don't forget to like the show before you leave if you like the show there's still many 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