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It tells you how Everton threw away a one goal lead in the space of two minutes and then missed a penalty, it does, I mean it does, that's what you want to also tell you the odds of us being Man City on Saturday aren't great, but is this our, is this our little spell in the season, it'll never be another spell like this, is this our little spell, are we hoping that this is just our little spell, well is it to defeat and eat, well yeah, we have won about two games, we've won once in four, four games, five games even, I've played a little bit of it, no I don't, I don't have to say, I don't, I'm hoping it is, I'm hoping it is, it seems like, no one will be surprised by this, but it seems like the moment Job and Pickford didn't just tip that ball over or leave it, someone just got the ball here a minute, because it feels as though we've been deflated since, I almost feel like it was before that, I think it was when people started to, I think when people started to talk about us in a positive way, that and put the spotlight on us, going into that Maisie Shire of Derby, I don't know, things just feel like they've changed, but we played well in the Derby, no I know, but it just feels like when we were under the radar and we were just going along like everyone else, we were fine and no one was really paying any attention to us, and as soon as they started talking about us being in the top six, and you know, what a team this is, and this player, that, it's got to us in a way that, not necessarily, I think that, the likes of Newcastle and Wofford, and everyone has come to Goddison in the last four or five games, they've all really just come for a point, and they're saying Wofford came for a point, but the playing in a way, looked like they did in the first, but the playing in a way that completely nullifies us, and that change, we haven't reacted to, I don't think, too well, I think that the way we're playing is one paced, and lacking ideas, because teams are just trying to stop us, and that's what I'm saying, it's like as soon as everyone goes, oh these look like a decent team, everyone's gone alright, we'll just go there and give them respect, trying to play deep so there's no space behind them, and I don't think we've reacted to that. So what you're saying is Sky would be doing a survival by calling it the top five when we were in it, and the top six when we were setting it, I think it's just a bit of everything at the minute, I think the players look a little bit tired, which is probably, not only to be expected, because the professional footballers, but I feel as though, because they've worked so hard, it's like new to some of them, so defining it, you know, difficult, I think it's also to do with the fact that our right-hand side has become what our left-hand side was last season, well, for a bit, so it's a non-entity, so we're only ever played on one side of the pitch, and I also think it's like you say, but a lot of teams, I mean when was the last team that come to Goddison and had a go? A proper go? I mean, from the off, West Ham. I think everybody else that's come to Goddison this year has just tried to get a go. But that's what I'm saying, team, but we've got to be better. But that's what I'm saying, and you're right, because what you're saying about the energy, the energy has dropped out of us. In the last two home games, the energy in the second half has been really, really low, there's been no energy, there's been, we're not pressing as high up the pitch, we're not, there's no tempo to our play at all. Last night there was no tempo at all in the games, it was just all slow, and it was same against Newcastle, there's no, not getting on the ball and shifting it and moving, and there's no confidence in the way we pass it, and there's no quick interchanges, it's all very slow and laboured, and you can see that. And then now people say, oh, they shouldn't be tired, they've only played, you know, X amount of games, but don't forget, this is a team. For the last, what, six, seven games has been pretty much, this has been the team, bar a couple of players, and I think that's catching up on a few of them now, and you only have to, you only have to pull a couple of those players for it just to all fall down. Yeah, I think, I remember Liverpool's faces, my claw, started off unbelievable, but then by Christmas, they looked, they were tired, and then they went again, then they were, like, they got on a little bit of a run again, and I think it's probably just coming to terms with the city as well. City, at the stage with Guardiola where they started off incredible, and then he got a cobbon, they stopped winning for a few weeks, it's a buffer, probably with that high tempo and with everything, for us, I think it's, the team, when it works, it's brilliant, and it's produced that with some of the football we played, but I just think there's a real gilfee's dropped off, the two-one games has been really poor, I thought he was kind of full, or something like that. Coleman, there's dipped again, I thought he's having a really bad time, Sheamus, and it's not, he's finished and get rid of him, but you need something, a bit like being, don't forget with Sheamus Coleman, he's out for a year, football moves on in a year, he's 30, and to do that job of running 80 yards sprinting, you've got to be fitting at the peak of your powers, well cut ahead of him, not playing well at all, not before he showed any, when he came in, last, you know, when we bought him, it was incredible, so many games, that work, right, and he was a threat all the time, now it's sporadic, so no matter he's just dropped below his level, and I just think when you, when three or four of them drop off, it makes a big difference, and then if you haven't got that bit of energy to be able to move teams around, it becomes difficult to, I think, I think that's what's happening, we're just getting, you're right about, it only takes a couple of them, the way we were playing when we were, you know, the three or four games when we really looked on it, it was all quick, and I think only once last night, it was one way Pickford moved the ball quickly, and Bernard did a little, little back, little back heel, and, and, and Sigerson got away, and that was the only one we had, that was the only one we had last night, really, where I think I thought we, because you, you think go back a few weeks ago, and you think about the, the goal we scored from the, the corner against Brighton, and you think of things like that, and you feel like you see the energy in that, and yeah, that energy just hasn't been there the last couple of games, and you're the thing is, players could be carrying knocks as well, but this was going on to me point out, I think the manager, I think he, I think he's got to start trusting more of his squad then, if that's the case, I think he's got to start, I was really surprised last night that he started with going back to the same team, I thought he might have made a couple of different changes again, just to mix up a little bit, bring a couple of plays into it, maybe start with Donner Carver-Lewan or, or, or bring someone into, yeah, but you pull a face, but the Charleston's not doing it for me up front, he really isn't, and now he did, but as a forward, he's not. Donner Carver, just answer me this though, did Don touch the ball last night? I don't think he did, no, but I don't think he did, but can you tell me this then, if a Charleston player not left last night, do you think his game would have been any different to him playing up front, because I don't think it would have been, I don't know, but I think with this, I think we miss massively in this team, a centre forward, I think we missed it, we've missed it in a lot of games, a centre forward that knows how to play like a centre forward, I think, I think with Charleston, we'll play out left and give you exactly what he gives you while he's up front, and I think, I think that's a starting point where in some games you could go, you know what, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we've tried Trent Oaks in the last week, he's not mobile enough, I just think for some games, you say, no, today it's going to be a bread and butter game, I thought, see this, this is going to be one that you, that you, you have to just dig in and get the result. I think if you demand it, you know, and I'm not disagreeing, because I can't have said this on my maths reaction last night, or the three points, in fact, the three points, because we need the centre forward, we do. The Charleston's not an out and out centre forward, so it's back to goal play, isn't very good, because it's not, it's not his thing, he wants to turn and run at you with the ball, and you're not going to, you're not going to get that all the time in games like that, where teams are coming deep. That game, it's all about link play, but you've got to have movement as well, so we're crying out for that, so we can put him back where he's, where he's favoured at the moment, which is the left hand side. But you're all so of your demand, I plays, I've got to show you something. Now, I've seen Towson and Calvah Loon in the last week play about 50 minutes of football, which is, I think, all on the pair of them, I've had, roughly, and neither of them have done a tap, come on, haven't done a, they should have come on last night and affected that game totally, and they didn't, they, they're two centre halves, that'd be easy, when that's not good enough, and there's enough, there's two luckmen, everyone was losing their heads in the summer, over Adam, all the luckmen. Come on again last night, what does he do? What, what does he actually do? You can skim, you can skim four men in the two fuck pieces with, it's incredible, then nothing comes of it. Took a corner last night, didn't even get it off the floor, and you're just like, you, when you're getting that chance lad, you've got to take it. I think though, I think what, I think what's important though is that, you've got, you can't just flog a dead horse, a lot of that, you know what I mean, you can't just, you know, there's got to be a time where players have got to be moved in, in, around, I mean, there's a, there's different, there's, there's different, you know, as you've just said there, about Coleman, you know, could he be taken out decide, and you, you bring John Joe in, let's say, if he's fit, and say, right, tonight John Joe's going to play, playing at home, playing against the team that our fancies against, can John Joe come in, take the pressure off Seamus, have a rest, you know, he's going to play tonight. And that's what I'm saying, it's those little, those little decisions where the manager's got, you know, got to look at it, it's something like Ghana, another one who just looks a little bit offer at the moment, you say, where's James McCarthy, is he fit, you know, is he not on the bench because the manager's trying to build them up, is there a time when you go, right, Ghana, you're going to, you're going to sit on the bench tonight, and James McCarthy's coming in, and that's what I mean, just those little, just those little decisions from the manager, just one at a time, not asking for loads, but I see that in the subs as well. For me last night, we were one nil up, we've played five or six minutes of the second half, and I think everyone in the ground knew what was coming, everybody in the ground knew what was coming, and this is what battles me about not only managers, but players, it's that idea that everybody can see what's going on, except the people that are actually in control of it. Everyone could see what was going to happen last night in the second bath, and sometimes I just think sometimes there's a need for a manager to just go, you know what, let's make a change now, I can see the energy levels are not there, they've gone off the second half and there's no response, they picked up, we didn't, and you think, right, let's change this now, let's change it now, and almost make them think, what are we going to do because we've made the change, and I don't see that enough for times from Michael Silver, I think, I mentioned this a few weeks ago, after the derby, I think his subs are, I think they're just poor, if I'm honest, I think they're just poor, I think early on the season, the likes of Palace, they were, if they affected the game, but I think if the energy level's a low, sometimes you've got to make those subs a little bit earlier, but I mean, so if he makes them subs last night, he brought Calvaluin and so on, they come on and boat go, and we win 3-2, then everyone praises him, but it's the players you've done it, so he's made them, so I've seen someone on, in fact Matt Jones on Twitter saying, he's, you know, whenever he just panics and puts all the strikers on, well, if he would've put Zoomer and Tom Davis on the ground, if they can collapse. Well, I would've put Tom Davis on last night. No, no, I'm saying, but yeah, you would have, but there'll be a lot of people who would have. So I'm saying to you, no, but saying Michael Silver shouldn't have managed it, but saying what, when you're behind in a game, of course, we shouldn't have gone behind. But for me, we shouldn't have gone behind. Well, we shouldn't have done, because the right back shouldn't have to defend. I know what I'm saying, but that's not my point, my point being is, everyone could see in the game what was going to happen. You can tell him football, you know, I remember there being your first up, so 15 minutes in, that game, five minutes into the second half when they were shot. Matt, it would have either gone, I would have had to put the Charleston on the left and put a striker, put Tom up front, or, or I would have brought Tom Davis on and tried to get a grip of the midfield. You know, took maybe Guilfy Shagaton off and tried to get a grip of that midfield. That was where it went to the midfield. No matter what anyone says about whether you'd like Tom or not, Tom's a good footballer, and you put him in there with Garnett and say, right, it's not waiting tonight. Let's just change it up a little bit. We've got plenty of talent on the pitch. I'm not going to disagree with you on that. That's what I'm saying. I think that's where they look at managers sometimes, and as I say, I'm not having to go with Michael Silver's, so do you think, loads of managers do it. They don't, it, I remember Roy Heaton in his book about, he said, there's some games when we could be one, they'll be our, but I knew that we were going to win it. You could just tell, you could just tell by body language and the opposition and how your plays were. You know, that stuck with me that. You look at plays and you just think, you can see what's going to happen here, and I just don't, didn't get the sense that we, you know, Michael Silver knew that or even some of our plays did, but as fans we did, and I think, you know, it was no, it didn't surprise me that we, that decoys and then, and then the tails were up, because they came out flying in that second half and we didn't, we were just flat, but you know, it is what it is, but, you know, we went back to the, we went back to the, the tried and tested, which is, as I say, that's, that's surprising. I think that is, I think in his mind, that's his best 11, that's his first 11, whether, whether it's working or it isn't. It has worked more than it hasn't worked, so I think. I said, I done the, I done the start on 11 and I had luck coming in over Wolcott, because I just thought he played last week for 75 minutes, you can't, there's no point taking him out again this week, when you've got a home game, maybe keep Wolcott for Saturday, more disciplined away from home, but a threat on the break. So that would have been, I put Keane back in, because I thought Keane would come back in. But even that, his room is in, I know that was just to keep Schumer happy, you know what I mean, but I don't know whether that took me in or out and put left, keep Keane and Schumer there, but I don't know, but I can understand why he went back to it, because that's the team that's performed the best in most of the games. So it wasn't really a big surprise to me that he done it. I was surprised, because I just think, I just think now is the time to. But who would you have played? With, oh, you'd have played Don, you just said. Well, I probably would have, I, I think I'd have played Don up front with, with Charleston on the left. And then Bernard on the right. Maybe Bernard on the right. Bernard had to play. Or even Bernard, essentially. Because I just think that, I'm not saying we should be changing the team every single week. I just think that you look at the energy of the team and think about freshness last night. Yeah, exactly. But then again, I thought the first half, well, we did totally boss the first half, we were in control. Never, I don't think I've been so comfortable in a game this season as we were in our first half, thinking this is the, I was thinking this is 3-0. Easy, all over the day, not on Dini. You know, big yard dog up top. He is what he is. He's effective. But that's what he is. Success was throwing himself all over the gaff. And it was just, they looked a little bit, they looked like we just happy to get it through. That flipped the half time because he came out and actually dominated the second half. You know, I've got no, no qualms about that. But the first half, it looked good. So suppose that kind of, what you're saying, early on in the second half, that energy should have been, we should have been really energetic. But yeah, like to Tom Davis, you're having been playing, so he's fresh. And maybe Dom and the Calder doing and just gone at 1-0 and gone, let's, let's give these a problem because they weren't having a problem in dance days. It was literally, we were just kicking it and getting it back. They were just coming back. They weren't doing anything, but they just had the ball. Do you know what I'm meaning? But yeah, I mean, I don't be started off, okay. I don't be started off quite lively. I thought Gomez got on the ball and started making us play. And that was great because I don't think he did that enough like, I know we differ on that for other stores. He was better last night than he was last week. And I thought we looked in control. We got the, you know, we got the goal. And I thought, yeah, we're in front now within the first 15, 16 minutes, we'll take these apart now. And I don't know whether the players thought that and didn't raise it when they probably should have done. We're not very good at squeezing people, you know, putting people up. We haven't got it. We haven't got the killer instinct of going 1-0, right, 2-0, 3-0, this is done. We haven't got it. It's 1-0, great, great football flicks. I've just had the shot miles over. Oh, well, we haven't got that come on, let's put these to bed. And that, I think, that's the biggest thing we're missing. No, I agree. The thing what we have to remember, though, is we're still going like that. It's not, this last week been difficult. Don't get me wrong, but we're still, compared to where we were 12 months ago, that's all you can do, I think. We're still on another trajectory. It's frustrating as it is. Just never ever ever I don't, that's the I learned that lesson like like when I was 2. I tried to, and a lot of times I'm good with it but I just thought because we were playing so well, and these two were bang average. And that's when ever in Katja. That's when ever in always Katja. I'm not better than you. That's when ever in always Katja. Yeah. He caught me hook last. He caught you, Bas? He caught me with the sweet shot. Right, yeah, you know what I mean? So am I getting stuff? You can get this Oliver Charleston t-shirt from my shop right now. I like this one. Oh do you like Christmas jumpers? You only got a long left to give you on Christmas. Thirteen, Thirteen is here isn't it? You've got till Thirteen. You're a meaner, ever un-copied, yeah. Everett and her bro tells her, yeah, the Christmas jumper. I wonder where they got that idea from? Anyway, if you want any of our Christmas gear, you've only got days. What? They might have had that idea a while ago. She just bought it out this week. If they bring samba clothes out that's it mate. No, don't want to bring a samba. Shut up mate. Boss. Let us know your thoughts in the comments, as you always do. If you haven't subscribed, please do. There are loads, if you haven't subscribed by the way, loads. So please subscribe. Is there? Yeah, yeah, it's like 50-50 split. You can watch our videos. No, just subscribe if you're watching it. Subscribe, please. Click the bell for the later you know when videos are coming out as well. And if you want more videos, like 40 a month, join us over on Patreon. Thanks for watching. See you later.