 Welcome to the breakfast and plus CV Africa. It's time for us to look at the papers. What are the people saying this morning? GD Johnson joins us this morning. GD, good morning and thank you for joining us. Good morning, it's a pleasure to be with you, Messi and Kofi. Thank you for having me and good morning to all the listeners all over our viewers all over the world. All right then let's set off with the punch newspaper. The punch talks about our budget and its deficit, 10.7 trillion budget deficit. Government may sell TBS, NIPPS, 25 key assets. No bidder yet. We have register of assets. The BPE is saying. Federal government buying NMPC value estimated at over 30 trillion Naira. Just imagine you have 30 trillion Naira. You probably would buy the NMPC. Government must be transparent in sale process says expat. So we're probably considering that option as a way of generating revenue. Still on the issue of revenue. We have lost the most valued crude oil buyers. That's what the federal government is saying. The likes of China probably is moving away in what a view. Amcon sales or sales. That's not it for the want of publicity will move away. Domestic airlines reject Nigeria, Ethiopian deal. That's national carrier and canoe. The fight rakes federal government tells Supreme Court. I'm still looking at the punch newspaper. Utes demand justice. Please tear gas protestors. Hashtag answers the anniversary. There's a pictorial representation of what happened yesterday. Inflation. Nigeria orders rakes, political instability says IMF. That's the international monetary fund. That's a lot for us. I think Nigeria is really going through a lot. 13 died in Ogun. Legos crash. FRSC blames night travel. Kogi gets first derivation allocation as oil producing state. Now that you know customers are leaving us who we'll be selling to. That's the much we can take this morning on the punch newspaper. Well let's go quickly to the nation. Interesting stories on the front page of the nation. At least the lead is not on the PDP crisis. This one says federal government holds seduction of CBN's loans to states. Neck raises panel to review budget support repayment terms. I saw the vice president in that virtual neck meeting. They had to brainstorm on how to handle states repayment of the loans that were given by the CBN or federal government by extension. We have more stories from the nation. U.S. plans $1 million humanitarian aid for flood victims. U.S. plans $1 million humanitarian aid for flood victims. All right, so we're still relying on these guys. Stop your blackmail. Speakers tell Omoa Gege Nigeria to launch Africa's first payment card, January. CBN, AMKON, announced sale of Polaris Bank. Forty-five days after U.K. Prime Minister Truss quits police. Why we dispersed NSAS protesters. NDDC gets acting M.D. aboard. All right, then 10 pounds to death, burnt to death in legal sleep under expressway. Explosion. Really sad. APC presidential aspirants, Park Tinibu, says Adamu, state set for campaign council launch, candidate unveils action plan today. Federal government will tolerate strikes during transition period in Gege. Warns unions, right? Stories on the front page of the nation. Away from the nation, the daily trust is what we're looking at. Customs sack over 2,000 officers for corruption. Hamid Ali has quoted, expresses concern over meeting 3 trillion Naira target to raise $176 billion after total automation of operation. Justified tax increase on vehicles. Nigerians are going through a lot. Federal government appeals judgment acquitting Kano and strategic capital investment acquires Polaris Bank for 1.35 trillion Naira. United Kingdom to elect new Prime Minister October 28 as trust resigns. Corruption high on the Boonee committee, Adamu is saying. Federal government to privatize a Jakuta steel minister is quoted. And 10 pounds to death as tanker explodes on Legos, a bad expressway. Very unfortunate. And that's it this morning on the daily trust newspaper. And last paper we have on our table is the Guardian, which is, they say they are conscious, nurtured by truth. I like that. But the lead story on the front page of the Guardian. Nigeria air arrives on excess budget. Darfur partnership model. It's the controversy surrounding this Niger air idea. The riders to that. Only Ethiopia Airlines, so Ethiopia Airlines, bid for new national carrier, our 49% ownership controlled by foreign interest or Robb Nigeria of BASA rules or roots rather. Stakeholders, it's another private interest masquerading as national carrier. Project to mimic Virgin Nigeria's mistake. Lots of controversy there. Can president dissociate itself from APC presidential campaign list? Trust resigns 45 days after 45 days as UK prime minister. Tragedy is ten die. Five vehicles burnt in Ogontanka explosion. A lot of market leaders confirm three deaths. 28 injured persons in clash with Agberos. And there's a big story. Investigative piece there by the Guardian. Mental disorder, how economic security uncertainties, COVID-19 fuel numbers. And they have a picture of the federal new psychiatric hospital, Yaba Lagos. They say it's a big story for today. It seems that more people are turning themselves in for treatment because of their aforementioned reason. It's really worrying. And finally from the Guardian. Lessons of answers not learned. Two years on. Citizens tell government. We're bringing Jilly Johnson at this point. Jilly Johnson is a senior lecturer at the Nigerian Institute of Journalism. Thank you very much for your time. Let's talk less trust. And most of the papers are carrying that story. Like the Guardian on its front page, which says that she has resigned 45 days after as prime minister of the United Kingdom. What are your thoughts on this? Yes, especially this is the quickest. These are countries that has established political institutions. Where established process and procedure on how government should run. And that's why you could see and where the actors and players in the political space have some measure of dignity. Because if you have brought that same scenario that played outside of United Kingdom. See in Africa, I'm sure if you still cling to power. But there you have institutions. You have structures. You have the 1922 committee. You have ministers. You have processes to which you can trigger the resignation of the prime minister and the processes to which you can elect a new leader. Well, as far as I am concerned, this is nothing common as a surprise. Because I followed the trend when Boris Johnson resigned. And then the context was between the trust and it was narrowed down to trust and Rishi Sunak. From all purposes and intent, I was sure that Rishi Sunak had a better template. He even had better support among the members of the parliament. He had more supporters, but left alone to the membership of the conservative party. The stress was able to pull the leadership stunt where she won the race but does she have the capacity to govern? And it's evidently clear through our policy flip-flop that she does not have the capacity to govern. And we see without any major chaos within the system that new prime minister will be elected on the 28th of October. These are the kind of system we want to have in our policy in the sense that quickly we can bring to an end an unpopular government and then a popular government can be elected through democratic means and processes and procedures that are provided for in the constitution, political norms and the convention of that given society. And that's how some of us have advocated that we should go back to parliamentary system of government. Now I cannot imagine this administration being in power for eight years if you had operated the parliamentary system of government because it would have no confidence and something of this nature would have brought an end to an unpopular government in a parliamentary system of government. Some might argue that it's chaotic because within this year alone there's the likelihood, it's not even the likelihood, we are going to have three prime ministers for Great Britain, Boris Johnson, Lee Struss and whoever emerges as the new leader of the conservative party who automatically becomes the prime minister of Great Britain. There's a funny side to this mercy and someone put a webcam on a lettuce when Lee Struss was appointed prime minister and there was a debate that lettuce was going on last longer than Lee Struss and indeed the lettuce lasted longer than her in office. It was a live stream to watch the lettuce. It was clear if you followed one she was part and parcel of Boris Johnson's administration. She stayed till the last moment whereas Rishi Sunak was actually the person that triggered the collapse of Boris Johnson government by resigning. Now Rishi Sunak like I said is of Indian heritage. There are a lot of identity that played critical role in in our election in in us killing the other ahead of Rishi Sunak. So it was evidently clear that one she does not have the capacity, two she does not have the know-how, three she does not even have the support of the membership because in in in the election that was done within the membership of the conservative party in the British House of Commons Sunak had no members supporting him until the election was meant for the old members of conservative party across Britain to vote for that election. So it was clear that she was an unpopular leader from the onset. Okay Jude, let's come home and talk about Niger from the punch. The government is you know saying that they may actually sell the TDS, NIPPS, 25 key assets as a matter of fact the federal government is eyeing NNPC and it's been valued estimated over 30 trillion nair. What are your thoughts? Now they said they want because they want to meet up the 10 trillion project deficit so they want to sell. If they sell on this asset this year what are they going to sell next year? Now why would an administration that has gotten to the to the twilight of the administration, the end of the administration is inside this administration has less than as less than nine months is up to nine months. This administration actually has seven months to go because by May 29 next year we have a new administration. So why should we tow the tail end of his of his tenor for them to think of selling our asset? Now if you relate that same story with the botched Nigerian here conversation are you sure that we don't want to see the transfer of national asset into individual hands? I think that the national assembly should halt this process and I think that well many Nigerians that are in the legal profession can approach the courts and ensure that this process does not see the light of the day because now let's talk about NNPC our transparent we had that NNPC with phone fare and and and drums and all of it we saw that NNPC has been privatized. You and I can lay our hand on any document that explained the privatization of NNPC. After a while we discovered that NNPC has acquired as acquired con was it con oil or undo I can't recall now as acquired one of these companies yet we can lay our hand on the document that explained it. Now they would what they do actually is to test the waters they will throw these stories via the media to test the post of the public to see whether the public we accept or will be in favor of it or will be so they are testing public opinion to see what will be the reaction of Nigerians but as far as I'm concerned they are just playing to the gallery some people are trying to placement they want to send national asset to themselves and in the process Nigerian will be changed Nigerians will be changed. The country learn our deficit is not a fluke so what happens really what how do we solve the problem well we should cut if you want to do that we should cut waste digits we should cost waste digits in our recurrent spending the best way to do that is to look at your recurrent expenditure if you want to buy 1000 cars before you reduce it to 200 if you want to spend I'm just saying hypothetically you want to spend 2 billion on natural rock reduce it to 200 million you and I we live within our means the inflation we have a double we have a double digit inflation and yet as our salary increased in our various offices and I've read Nigerian knows how to manage resources better than people that we have elected in government to manage our national treasury each and every Nigerian is managing his life despite the inflation the double digit inflation and yet it does not have any other means of income apart from salaries and wages so what are we saying so if individuals can manage their life in the face of this inflation why can't government you have a lot of wastages in government a lot of wastages so they should cut their recurrent expenditure what have we got to show for all of this budget they've been passing is all this is all this now if they say national theater they say they say the same national theater they say tbs they say which invariably we need when we there's some heritage you don't sell but there are some you need to when article was campaigning in 2019 and he said that there's a need for an mpc to he was ridiculed all right thank you he seems to have run out of words for that situation and we go back to the guardian you know it's it's given this major space to the Nigeria air situation and i think maybe we can also put a lettuce somewhere to see if it lasts longer than the Nigeria but um the paper thinks that the the the the airline which is still on paper is a reps on excess revenue and excess budget and uh a doubtful partnership model calls it a doubtful partnership model that agreement to in principle to have a Ethiopia air managed in Nigeria air and that they said it's the only uh bill or the only bit they had was from the Ethiopian air um so what are your thoughts because um they only simply thing well if you only simply thing and you understand the word simply thing don't learn from the past let me put it in proper perspective only fools don't learn from the past you know um i could see from that report where a reference was made to Nigerian virgin partnership we had that approach we failed why do we use the same template that has not no matter how hard you try to go on the wrong path you will not get your destination all you need to do is to is to turn and go backwards to where you are coming from sometimes going forward coming going backwards so so so it's clear we have done this in the past it did not work why do we want to do and the question i keep asking is why the desperation at the syrica the minister of aviation had been minister of aviation from inception of this administration is from the president home state he used to be a junior minister in the first time then aviation was taken away from transport and made the substantive ministry he has not done anything with respect to the aviation sector you know we it's it's it's a society that rewards that rewards that rewards them that that that that that that that rewards them mediocrity because on this you remember the launch you remember the logo fiasco how we went and gave over mother 600 million to foreigners to to to to design the logo i have i have i have student in my school or they will design the logo for free well gd johnson let's move away quickly looking at the punch again the federal government is complaining about her lost of most valued customers uh talking about crude oil customers and and that's also very critical there's also a complaint that some of the specimens are moving away from the consumption of fossil fuel or looking for alternative and also looking for other countries so this is the issue of you know oil and gas how do you react and because we are still crude the way we manage our crude oil you know the word crude god this is the basic form we get the oil that we there's no value addition there's no value addition to we don't have refineries we don't have refineries as a result of that you can have petrochemical companies in nigeria uh we burn our neutral gases the liquefied neutral gases we we set it up please so we only focus on what we can get you know some of us have prayed that the good oil should should dry up so that we can begin to think once the crude oil dries up we can begin to think on how to raise revenue and not to become too reliant on on good oil you see for every government in nigeria crude oil has automatically become their god because that's what we rely on so we have we have rendered our our thinking and our thinking for quality useless in looking at other means in looking at ways to diversify the economy since i was in since i was doing my eight levels in the eighties i've always heard about the diversification the diversification of nigerian economy the diversification of nigerian economy we have not taken concrete set to diversify we knew when this talk about renew new energy when the conversation started we knew the various benchmark and timelines that have been provided by by the western world who are supposed to be the major customers and yet we did take any step to address to address the emerging trends in the energy sector so we why should why should we not find ourselves in the situation we have found ourselves and it's because we lack a basic planet even the one that god has given to us the crude oil we still sell it as crude because we are crude in thinking we are crude in leadership we are a crude society in society whereby people go for for peaceful protest and you begin to tear gas there i was sharing just going over to to what happened yesterday what stops government from allowing them just provide them with police protection let them protest as many times they want to protest and then the most important thing is that if you don't plot the right of passage for others that are not protesting and then you leave them after they are tired they will go home and if they are not tired they've made their statement and then you it's a win-win situation but we have a situation whereby people don't even know how to deal with civil civil disobedience and in democracy civil disobedience is allowed because majority we always have their way the minority must have their say a critical component of democratic society is the right to protest so so what becomes of us now i'm sure that this would not be the first time that you've heard about diversification or alternative energy renewable energy and it's a global conversation but it's getting very serious and i really don't know if there's any policy direction from us or if we're really sitting up and making plans to ensure that we don't wake up and we're shocked you see you always find yourself in this situation where you have a lifestyle that you cannot fund the joint government we have a large big government we have a big government that leads an assistitious lifestyle and they want to fund that lifestyle with mega resources so that's because the question you ask is that why do we have all these ministries department and agencies of government where they cannot think they can't come up with strategy they can't come up with put print on how to transform transform the the the nigerian nation all you need to do is to travel to the lake and breath of nigeria you see there are people lands we have all you need to do you need to ask yourself is that it's for government to put in place a well structure system a system whereby government could collect the appropriate taxes from all those that are involved in one form of business or the other in nigeria however the money that you come to government is going to probably pocket the custom board said they sacked two thousand if you have an organization where two thousand staff are sacked for corruption then the entire organization is corrupt and that's and that's one of the major body that is responsible for your revenue generation two thousand there's no outreach all right jillie johnson thank you so much for your time and for your expertise as always as always we can fuel your energy from here and of course we we can wait for to have you next time jillie johnson is a senior lecturer in nigerian institute of journalism and he stole us today that his students could have designed that nigeria logo better and for free jillie johnson thank you for your time today is the 21st of october and we'll go down memory lane with today in history we return with a first major conversation we'll talk about the latest international trade fair when we return