 Okay. So, welcome back to Divine Intimacy Radio watching behind the scenes. We're going to jump into the show here. We're talking about communion in the hand and or communion, how to receive communion and communion and reverence and the teachings of the church. So, I think we'll just, because I know what it says, so I'll just deal with that. Okay. On your mark, get set, go. This is Dan and Stephanie Burke. Welcome back to Divine Intimacy Radio, your Radio Haven of Rest. Your Hermitage of the Heart. Your Monastery of the Mind where we lift our hearts and minds to heaven to draw upon the wisdom of the saints. The teaching of the church to help us to navigate this challenging life. And today we're on part two of the reception of the Eucharist and how we should do it and what the church actually teaches about it. Okay. Let's go. So, we have a bunch of questions. I was told by my priest that receiving on the hand was more dignified and proper for adults. This doesn't sound right to me. The reason it doesn't sound right to you, it's because it's the exact opposite of what the church teaches. Okay. So, in Memoriale Domini, which I quoted extensively in the first show, we have all of the clarity we need to understand how it should be perceived and, you know, how we should understand this. Now, of course, it did allow for communion in the hand, but what's interesting is that it gives prescriptions for how to do it that almost eliminate, that eliminate, I would say, 99% of the ordinary form parishes that I've been to and we've been to a lot of them. I've been in every state of the United States, I think, and been to mass and most of them, if not all of them. So we have a lot of experience with this. It would disallow 99% of what we experience and maybe we'll get to that by the end of the show, but I'll say this. Memoriale Domini says specifically that it in no way takes away from the dignity of the person to receive in the traditional manner. It's in fact more dignified to receive in the traditional manner. It is more holy. It is more reverent. That is not my opinion. That is the vision of the official document, St. Paul VI approved on this topic. Yeah. I think when someone like a priest or whoever says, oh, it's more dignified to receive in the hand. What they're really expressing is their own perception and their own opinion in that. So, oh, I don't want to accidentally put my fingers in somebody's mouth. I don't want to see their tongue. I don't want to have somebody kneeling in front of me. That makes me uncomfortable, whatever it is. So when you consider all those things, that's about the mind and the perception of the person that is distributing our Lord. Yeah. And this is not about perception. This isn't about preferences. How we feel, how we think, how we feel. It's about the Lord. Right. It's about the Lord and the teaching of the church. As soon as we talk about the dignity of what it looks like, we've lost the focus of what we're discussing. Right. And I think to me, you know, like in our prior show, if you understand the dangers, please go back and watch that show. If you understand the dangers, if you understand what's really at stake here, then all of the rest of it goes away. Yeah, we talked about what Satanists do and we know from firsthand account. So it's important to say, we said at the outset of the previous show, we are not, it is against our charism of our community, possibly be a community to complain and to speak negatively about priests. It doesn't mean we would ever hide abuse or anything like that. But as a rule, we minister to a lot of priests. They come to us to be prayed for. We do formation for dioceses, all of that. We're not, this isn't about what is commonly kind of this negative attitude towards priestess. We're just answering questions. Because they could have said a layperson says that, I'd say the same thing. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's really about what are we discussing here and what is really at stake and what is the focus and the focus needs to be on the Lord. Yeah, and we always need to be respectful toward our priests, even if we don't agree and to pray for them and to support them. So you know, you and I both, as I mentioned in the previous show, we both the post approached our priests about the mass and about reverence and about, you know, those sorts of things. And in 100% of the situations we receive positive responses. I'm pretty sure we have you raised your eyebrows. Well, I would say even like even when you were principal of a school and you asked, Hey, why do we have the kids standing around the altar? You know, if we're trying to train, you know, to entice them to be priests. But the, I mean, I can't think of a situation where we weren't received positively in our parishes where the priests knew us because we're constantly supporting our priests. So anyway, all right. My parents, priests told me that receiving kneeling is an attitude against unity and that I should do like everyone else does. So this is actually I've heard this a number of times. The argument, I understand the argument, but it is our unity has to be based on something. So for instance, if everyone in the parish or let's say 50% of the people in the parish were during the mass, we're lifting their arms, it's straight up and down and waving their arms. Would it be better that the rest of us joined them so that we could be in unity? Well, I have a better example, actually, which that's bizarre. But okay, so there, so there's a parish, I hope that they've gutted this parish and redone it. But there was one out somewhere in Colorado, where and we won't name the parish, we're not we're not going to out anybody here. But the parish had when it was built, they created the pews in such a way that they leaned back slightly. And there were no kneelers in that church, not one, not one kneeler in the church. And you're and so you went in there and you were leaning back like you were about ready to watch a movie. You know, it was like a giant media room is what it was like. Is that unity? Am I supposed to? Is that more unified? Am I conforming to them? Is that important for me to go in there and not kneel? No, because then then what we're saying is being united is more important than worshiping God. Well, but we are called to worship and honor and reverence the Lord. The sacrifice of the mass in its essence is about worship. It is not about unity. Worship brings unity. Okay, it's properly ordered. Right. So this is now you're getting to my point. What are we supposed to be unified around the teaching of the church? What are we supposed to be unified around? What the Lord has given to us what's really happening there? The sacrifice of the holy sacrifice of the mass. Right. So you don't you should never ask someone to be unified around false teaching. So I I had a great priest actually that I really like he actually helped to bring my father completely into the church before he died and all of that taught this great series on on all of these things. But he said if you're in a parish and he was saying this is what the church teaches. This is my role. This is your all was orthodox and then he said but if you're in a parish and they do it differently, for the sake of unity, do it the way they do it. And it's what you just said is for the sake of unity, go against church teaching. Right. Go against tradition. That is completely irrational. That's not actually unity. That's unity against the church. That's unity against God not unity for God. So we have to our unity around the truth or it's not or it's or it's evil. And we really need to to to know and accept that if we're unified in little things like that, then we're going to feel pressured to be unified in all the other aspects that go against church teaching. Right. Whatever it is, whatever it is, it doesn't stop if we're constantly conceding for the sake of not ruffling any feathers of appearing unified. That's not that's not of God. Yeah. Yeah. So the next question says some in my parish take the Eucharist in their fingers and turn away from the priest and supposedly consume the Lord out of the view of the priest. Is this okay? It really makes me uncomfortable. And the answer is it is absolutely unequivocally not okay. Back to Memorialia Domini again. This is a a direct quote. If the danger of a loss of reverence for the August sacrament of the altar of profanation or adultering the true doctrine and that's the end of the quote is is present in the way you do it. I'm I'm just getting through the document a little more quickly. You can't do it that way. It's as if you know, Paul the sixth, he clearly was against it. But then he said, I'm against it. I'm going to go ahead and allow it. However, this is another quote, you must take care to avoid any risk of lack of respect or false opinions with regard to the blessed Eucharist and to avoid any other ill effects that may follow. So, you must avoid any risk. We have talked in the last show of the Satanists who have those little devices they put in their mouths and slide it in. In my opinion, if you allow whoever the you is and I don't want to target anyone, whoever the you is, if you allow, if you distribute communion and you allow the person to turn away from you and receive, you're in direct violation of church teaching direct and you are enabling someone potentially desecrating the Eucharist. How do you solve that? Am I condemning anyone? No, I'm just saying it's it's objectively true. You solve it by let's say you go to a parish where for years they've been taught wrong and so just start before every mass, you know, hey this you can't receive in a without being in a state of grace, make sure you to go to confession. We're going to talk about that today briefly before mass. Hey, let's talk about this today. How to receive. What is the church traditionally taught? What does it say is the preferred method of receiving? You're free to do either way but if you do it in your hands, the church teaches that you can't do it in a way that it's possible for the the Eucharist to be profaned or that fragments to be lost also in Memoriale Domini. It says you can't do it in any way that the fragments should be lost. Well, that means you have to have a communion patent under your hand which says in sacrosanctum conchillium. It means that even if you receive in your hand, you should not pick it up with your fingers because that causes another opportunity for it to be dropped or for little fragments to break off but you should raise the palm of your hand to your mouth and take the Eucharist off your hand with your mouth. Right. That's a way you can do it inside of church teaching but it is pretty much ignored today. I mean, in essence, what we're saying is we have to be willing to be uncomfortable and to have the conversations and to teach. Yeah. To teach. I had a priest one time told me that we have lost generations to poor catechesis and it's uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable to teach. It's uncomfortable to say things that people don't want to hear that they take offense at but we have to understand that what we're dealing with, we are fighting against principalities and dominions not flesh and blood. So when we take on these fights, we have to understand that we're about to eradicate the enemy from our churches in our midst. So when we get back, we can talk more about, you know, I think we should end at some point of explaining some ways to try to mitigate some of this. I agree. So we'll be right back after the break. You're listening to Divine Intimacy Radio on EWTN. Grateful to EWTN to host the show and we'll be right back. When your markets at go. This is Dan and Stephanie Burke. Welcome back to Divine Intimacy Radio. Your Radio Haven of Rest today. We're talking about what the church actually teaches on communion in hand. If you'd like a document on this, by the way, with all of these different quotes and resources, head out to apostoleva.org and create a little account. It's free and then you can find it in the library for all the documentation. But, you know, if you, to your point before the break stuff, if folks want to really learn this, read the document slowly and carefully and think of the implications of everything it says. I'm going to go to another question and give another example with the direct quote. Let's see. My priest told me that communion in the tongue is done away with after the council. Here's what St. Paul VI approved in Memoriale Domini, a direct quote. Which was after the council. Which was after the council. It was in 1969. The new method of administrating communion should not be imposed in a way that would exclude traditional usage. Traditional usage in the document is formally held up as as better, as holier, as as an expression of authentic unity, of course, because it is those things, and that it isn't done away with. In effect, you should never prohibit it. I mean, this is what this says. Okay. I told my priest that communion on the tongue is more likely to protect the Eucharist from profanation. He didn't say that, that it's not even true. Let me read another quote from Memoriale Domini. It is above all necessary, and this goes to your question about like what can we do about it. It is above all necessary that an adequate catechesis prepares the way so that the faithful will understand the significance of the action and will perform it with respect due to the sacrament. The result of this catechesis should be to remove any suggestion of wavering on the part of the church and its faithful in the Eucharistic presence and also to remove any danger or even suggestion of profanation. So what is the answer? The answer is, it says here, teach, right? Now have we been not not even close? I mean, otherwise 70% of ordinary foreign parishioners wouldn't reject the teaching on the Eucharist. If we were teaching it. We're not doing proper teaching in most areas. In most areas, just name a few. The understanding of the sanctity of life on the use of contraception, we could go on and on and on and on. Prayer, right? Acesis. All these things that we really need to understand. We need to embrace. We need to live the way of holiness. We're not teaching on these things and we need to. Now in some pockets of light, there's incredible catechesis going on. The brave and courageous are doing these things and in many ways, as laypeople, we have to step up and help because what we're being faced with are generations that are being lost to poor catechesis and that means not just laypeople, that also means priests. So we have to, where we understand, where we start to see these things, we need to be holy. We need to be gentle. We need to speak truth with love but we also have to be courageous and we have to start in our own homes. The conversion really needs to stay, to start in our own homes with couples, with their children and then it spills out with other family members and so on and so forth and speaking to your priests and assisting in all these things. So we really have to put our money where our mouth is and be willing to do the hard work of catechizing ourselves in our own homes first and then spreading out from there and praying and sacrificing for our priests and for others who do not understand or who are resistant to it. So I want to go, well said, I want to go to back to another point and reinforce it. So I had some notes on Memorial's Domini, Redemzioni's Sacramento, which was a document of course of the council to help us in all of this. Number 92 says this, if any community communicant should wish to receive the sacrament in the hand in areas where the bishop's conference with the recognition of the apostolic see has given permission the sacred host is to be administered to him or her. However, special care should be taken to ensure that the host is consumed. So it's the job of the person distributing communion to ensure that the host is consumed by the communicant in the presence of the minister, in the presence of the minister, that completely totally excludes a person turning away from the priest or walking back to the pew or walking back to the pew and consuming. So that no one goes away carrying the Eucharistic species in his hand. So no one's to leave the presence of the minister carrying the Eucharist. You can't do that. If there is a risk of profanation, then Holy Communion should not be given in the hand of the faithful. This, of course, teaching is reflected in the later document of Memoriale Domini. And I really think, and I'll make this argument again, if a priest, and I know we have a lot of faithful priests that listen to this show, who we love dearly and we have one visiting with us now and staying at the retreat center, if a priest will read Memoriale Domini and if the priest said, what are all the expectations and requirements for me distributing in the hand? One of two things are going to happen. Well, a handful of things would happen. One, regular catechesis in the parish. Two, they would dramatically limit it and change it. Three, they would teach people to receive in the hand, but taking their palm to their mouth, they wouldn't allow on the fingers. Four, they would introduce watchers, which we have at one of our parishes. I love watchers. It just gives me so much peace. And that's two people that are set up, or four, whatever, and they're at the front, they're steps away from the priest or the person who's distributing communion, the Eucharist, and they're watching to ensure that people are consuming and they do so reverently. The use of patents is another, right? And I just think you would see a radical change. You'd also seen a change in faith in that parish. I think the parish will grow. We've seen that. Where parishes become more reverent, more holy, where the priest becomes more reverent, more holy, where he develops a life of prayer, you see everything start to just have an outpouring of grace, and the Lord starts to move. He will bless your parish if you do this. If you can die to yourself, if you can set aside your vanity and your discomfort of having to speak truth with love and knowing that there's going to be some folks that don't like it and you're going to have some pushback, it's okay. Allow yourself a little bit of crucifixion in that moment, surrender them to the Lord, respond in charity, and move forward in confidence and in love. Amen. I want to read a few more things on Memorial Day, Dominique, because we did get to all the questions. It says, the apostolic see therefore emphatically urges the bishop's recent lady to obey carefully the law which is still valid and which has again been confirmed. What is that? That the traditional practice is in place and to carefully obey it, and also of course to carefully obey in the provision of communion in hand making sure there's no risk, taking care in quotes to avoid any risk or lack of respect or of false opinions regarding the Blessed Eucharist and to avoid any other ill effects that may follow which of course have happened ad infinitum. I mean it's seven out of ten Catholics, seventy out of a hundred, seven hundred out of a thousand, don't believe, and it's because we've been cavalier. We had a guy in our community who was a formerly a part of the community of Apostle Vier told me that he had gone to this one Sunday and that he was a little skeptical of my teaching on this at that point I had not taught formally from Memoriali Dominic. But he, so he was thinking about it, he received normally and he looked after he received he decided he was convicted by what I said. I said if you're going to receive in hand always check your hand to make sure none of the fragments are there which is also talked about in Memoriali Dominic. And he said I you know I and he looked down and there was a fragment clear in his hand. One person argued with me, there aren't many fragments it's not it's so hard to have a fragment and I because I showed a video one time of the this black glove test whatever and she said why work in the lab and you know that was manufactured. Okay so so I I went to my priest who was in a big parish and I said who uses patent communion patents our priest and I said father they have about 500 people at every Sunday Mass or they used to I said father have you ever cleaned off a communion patent? Gone to clean it. Aftermass. Aftermass and found it empty of fragments. He said I can't remember a single instance where there weren't fragments. So that means if you're not using communion patent that means you're dropping particles of the Lord that are then being trampled over or sucked up in vacuum cleaners or treated in some other way that's evil. So we've really got to think about being response and and I you know I hate to say it because I love our priests but our priests are responsible for that. I don't I don't I love and care about them I don't want them to go to their judgment with that on their soul that they didn't teach people right that they weren't super careful that they didn't follow church teaching in this case that they didn't put watchers in place when people turn their back they could you know they they knew or so if it's too hard to deal with and you're too distracted and you want to be prayerful great set a couple of guys up to always watch and then if somebody walks away say hey you know can you consume please now or or I need to take that from you yeah or just say please consume yeah please consume you know most people are gonna cave most people will and of course if the priest says says so so read memoriali domini m e m o r i a l e d o m i n i you can find it out on e w t n's website just go search for it and I would strongly encourage you to consider all this prayerfully and begin to receive kneeling and on the tongue if you don't if you receive in the hand receive kneeling better it's less risk for the for the chris to be dropped receive in your poem take your the poem to your mouth do it that way and it will I promise you effect people around you I mean you should do it out of your own reverence that should be the primary reason but you can also do it to bring about help to influence the culture and your parish and support your priest pray for your priest don't criticize your priest just be respectful and talk with them and make sure you pray a lot for them and give them a lot of compliments and all the good that's going on okay be holy until next time make the god of peace make you perfect in holiness may he preserve you whole and entire spirit soul and body irreproachable at the coming of our lord jesus christ amen